I DIDN'T Expect This REUSLT...Driver Loft Test
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2024
- Driver loft players a HUGE role in accuracy, distance and curvature of your golf ball! Just making these slight changes could access you more yards of the tee with driver more often or even STOP your slice & hook.. You have to use the modern driver to your advantage and fine tune it to your exact golf game by getting the correct loft for your golf swing!
This is a mid handicap golfer driver test...I DIDN'T Expect This REUSLT...Driver Loft Test
This test is carried out on a cobra driver but all the driver brands such as Callaway, Cobra, Taylormade, PXG, PING and Titleist offer adjustable drivers int eh 2024 driver market! This is a Mid handicap drive loft test!
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*Driver loft!! Key if you want to really dial In your driver..lets put a mid handicap Golf to the test!*
But a lower loft would create much more roll at the end, right? So for him, lower would be better. Hello from Texas!
Nothing wrong with playing 12 degrees as long as spin does not get out of control! Everything will be straighter and more forgiving.
@@mathewmue5547depends on course conditions. On wet courses more carry is better because you get almost no roll out.
I much prefer this type of content. I’m kinda sick of the peak youtube golfer era where there’s so much conflicting advice on swing coaching, it’s nauseating at this point. But objective information about equipment will always be useful.
Yeah big time I can go away and do this myself and see
Bingo!
thanks!
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The 12 degree loft was by far his best shots. It corrected his fade, which is obviously more accurate, and it translates to more distance.
Stick with the 12, man!
I thought so too. Definitely stick with the 12 degree setting.
I am a scratch player with a 110 swing speed. I have my 45.5 inch driver set at std lie, +1.5* loft added and is now set to 10.5*. This setting works best for me. I am 5 foot 8 inches tall so std lie does favor the left though I hit it straight. Point is don’t be afraid to try extreme settings then narrow it down to what works rather than what you think works.
His dispersion was best at the higher loft, that combined with the slight distance gain should be a definite game improvement for him!
I use a 12 degrees ping g20 with a low launch shaft, best thing I ever did, it's hard to miss the fairway.
I will take 280 yards every time over 10-15 more yards and in the rough or behind a tree.
I recently moved away from a 9.5 that I was struggled to get any loft with. I had a lesson and instructor suggested I tried a higher lofted driver. Now playing with a 12 degree driver and I couldn’t be happier. I may try lofting it down to 10.5 at some point but as it stands I enjoy hitting bombs with it.
When ever i drop down from 12 deg i start to spray the ball.
6 years ago i cut 3 inches off of the but of my driver and love it.
I also put un some jumbo max grips and it feels so good. If i pick up a regular grip. It feels like a pencil. I am going to hit "Eleven" hybrid 3-pw set from England. They are getting great reviews
I’ve gone from a 10.5” driver to a Mizuno ST-G 9.5” with the weights at the back. I hit up 4 degrees and swing at 90mph. Dropped spin by over 600rpm and added 10 to 12 yards of carry and at nearly 60 that blooming marvellous. Being fitted is essential.
I have added loft. I find better forgiveness and no slices. An occasional pull hook, but that’s probably me either tired or trying too hard to bomb one. Thanks for the advice!
Great video. I had a 9 deg driver that i set to 9.75 and it was an absolute beast. Now I have a draw bias driver standard loft 10.5 but I have set it to 9 deg and it also is a beast. Works either way. Draw bias driver also have weights at the heel and my stealth 2 hd sits quite closed at standard. I wish you had this video 4 years ago. Took me ages to figure loft out myself
Interesting I was looking for some content like this 👍
I like throughout the video how you implied launch angle is extremely important and can be influenced by loft - but also swing dynamics of "getting behind the ball" more on the lower loft settings getting a better apex. it is a relative thing - dynamics are the reason we all argue over our favorite settings (lol). This is a good video.
Not argue...just stating facts
I liked this review I recently purchased a Cobra RADx 12" and I am hitting further than my old driver, I think the higher ball flight gives better results when the fairways are a bit shabby a low flight on a smooth well cared for fairway will give you more roll.
This is great content.
Been playing a 7.5 degree non adjustable for 15 years. I need new clubs. My tendency is to fade or terrible slice into the next zip code. So will definitely be looking for the lowest lofted head for my next driver so I can add loft and slightly close the face.
Very interesting !
I set mine at 8. I just changed it one day because I was missing too many fairways. I find I get more roll, more distance. If I set to a higher loft, it flies higher but then just drops straight down. I do tee the a little higher.
I changed to a 9 degree recently but I don't have issues with my launch even on a miss hit... works great for me but I need to play around with my settings and testing to see if I can get even more!
I think Josh is thinking a lower loft is something that looks good rather than what is actually best for him.
That was my thought as well. A bit like my mid-handicapper friend who insists on always chipping from the fringe no matter how close he is to the green. Because that's what the pros do, that's what looks good to your mates. So since pros have lower lofted drivers, the lower the setting the better it looks. I think this is something that curses many amateur golfers, especially mid-handicappers. As for myself, I'm guilty of "going for it" when an approach shot is clearly beyond my realistic distance instead of laying up.
i was set up at 9.5 ping 430 from 10.5 found I was slicing. Returned to 10.5 and far less slicing, however going to the white castle tee from a pink also helped . Will have to have a play with the different heights.
I think I am at set at 10° (+1) with stock weight settings. Get better carry, and still good roll.
Ivam interested to see what you find. I swear, it was one of your videos that got me to loft up in the first place😂😂😂
I grabbed my non-gamer Cobra 9 degree (native) LTDx max driver and teed it up on a 4 inch tee on the range yesterday, as an experiment. Had to hit way up on it of course but I hit it so straight (and still high enough) even with a right-to-left wind, probably because it was so low spin. It just stayed in rails even the one I hit on the heel barely faded with this head and tee combo. I wonder if I stumbled on to something? Going to test it on trackman in a few weeks.
I love higher lofts because I tend to drive the ball low.
Keeping the ball in play is my priority right now
Guys , really like the video. I’m curious to see the spin rates . How did they change ? In the video Josh looked like he had a ton of control with the loft increased with the draw setting
really interesting so i tend to draw or hook my driver so what your saying is if get a 12 degree driver and loft it down to 10.5 it in feory help with this
Absolutely
When I was fit last spring Mizuno fitter just says don't look, just hit it. Well, as a 98-100 DSS, I was sort of amazed at the numbers. The head is good (STX230), but what he did was up loft to 10.5, and a butt firm tip soft regular shaft. I'd not been using anything but stiff for 30 years (age 57 now) Results were launch window was higher, which to me seemed too high, but no. Spin good. Carry was 6-8 yards carry more and some are double that.
I lofted up my 10.5 driver a degree , which has helped with launch --- but the one thing where it hurt me that when I was playing a slice wind-- the ball occasionally will go further right than my standard loft would in the same wind; even though at address, the face is more closed when I loft up. Not sure why (I don't hit moon balls which would be affected by the wind that much). .
Nice Ventus shaft!
What does the upright lie mean on my adjustable driver? It has lower, standard, higher, and the upright. I’m new to golf so I’m still trying to figure all of this stuff out
I will try higher loft this weekend.
I hit the ball pretty well .. most drives are between 280-300 and I hit a 11.5 driver .. when I try to lower the head I can’t hit the ball .. so I just keep it turned up .. I know its high lofted (swing speed is 110 ish ) but it just works for me
Are you using your wife’s YT? If not then you must be a beast of a woman hitting that distance. Longer than every LPGA golfer 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I call bollocks 🤣🤣🤣
@@CharlotteK2008 😂 some times I forget who’s name comes up 😂
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How many.putts??😅
You left out the spin…which is absolutely critical when deciding which setting to go with….
All other things being equal, more loft will be spinnier, unless he adapted by deliberately changing his angle of attack. But you probably knew that. 😉
@@seanbaines Not necessarily…it would depend what your original AoA is…if it’s not optimized for a lower lofted driver, your spin may go down as you add loft…
@@petegalindez9961 As I say, all other things being equal. Angle of attack is a big variable. As you say, specialized situations come up. But most of the time, adding loft without changing anything else does add spin.
But when do we not change anything else?
@@seanbaines I think you missed my point…If your angle of attack with a 9 degree driver is producing a spin of X and that’s not the optimal AoA for a 9 degree driver, but is for a 10 degree driver, that same exact swing with a 10 degree driver will have a lower spin rate due to the now optimized AoA…so, it’s not necessarily the case that all things being equal…
@@petegalindez9961 And I think you are missing mine, so I'm probably not explaining myself well. Let me try again.
I'm talking theory. I'm talking about the theoretical effect of loft isolated from all other circumstances that might affect spin. That's what I mean by all other things being equal. An AoA optimized for a 10 degree driver used by someone using a 9 degree driver is an unusual change from normal circumstance. That is not all other things being equal.
Now, if memory serves, back when I was involved in fitting, situations where spin went down with increased loft were fairly unusual. But yes, they do occur. So when fitting, you do have to check the spin to catch the all other things not being equal parts. There's more going on that just loft, of course. But when discussing theory, it is absolutely true that, isolated from other factors, loft adds spin. That was my point. Apologies if I didn't explain it well enough at first.
Loft required is all depedeant on how you deliver the club. AoA, speed, launch, dynamic loft etc.......Its good to have a play around, try different settings to see what works best for YOU with regards to distance and dispersion.....Or get fit 😁
My wedges are the same as yours, just yardage different ❤
Don’t understand why Josh didn’t feel good about how much straighter his ball flight was with the driver set on 12 degrees, especially since he didn’t sacrifice distance AND he was dead center in the fairway!
Ego. It says: "12 degree is for slow swing speed players". Reality is his launch angle is low so he gets most benefit from the higher loft. Nothing wrong with that, a lot of tour players now are using higher lofts and delivering lower launch. You're seeing 10.5* drivers a lot more on tour.
@@mistersooty Yup. PGA tour players average angle of attack is slightly negative with driver. LPGA players average angle of attack is slightly up-- and they don't usually use 12 degree drivers.
@@alexchoi2060 Use whatever works for you best right?
Whilst this works, obviously loft that is standard plays different to loft that has been altered. Eg. I play a 9 degree Ai Smoke max turned down to 7.5 degrees, this opens the face, when i hit 8 degree standard driver, it goes left, the open 7.5 degree is straight.
i always thought increasing loft opened the club face, not the other way around. Hence, why when you increase loft with a wedge you open the face...
should've put tape on the 10.5 too
Hi Alex, nice video as always.
Related to this, may I ask you, I'm waiting for the delivery of a brand new Ping G430 max 10k, 10,5° native, alta CB Regular, which I've thought to set at +1° (11,5°) and flat setting. Do you think that loft adjustment may neutralize the other (flat lie) in terms of left/right bias, so the final result would be similar to a square face impact?
(I'm 65 years old, swing speed about 82 mph, total distance on a good shot with my current gamer (G425, 10,5; flat; draw setting) is about 220 yards).
I was fitted with the 10k (10.5; alta CB reg) in trackman in standard setting and was consistently overperforming my G425. I also tried the alta CB Soft Regular but it "tasted" less powerful to me.
Thanks a lot, congrats for this nice baby !
the loft should certainly help!!
A better test would be to take five shots with each setting and then do a second rotation of five additional shots with each setting, taking the five best drives out of the ten total shots hit at each setting. That way, you minimize any impact from Josh being more warmed up and hitting better for the later tested settings.
One other issue is fairway conditions. I question whether launch monitors get those distances correct when dealing with especially soft and wet, or especially dry and firm conditions. I have seen quite decent but high drives bounce only 10 feet or so after hitting a soft, wet fairway and have seen lower drives get 50 or more yards of roll on a dried out fairway.
I had an rusted up adjustment screw like that Driver and snapped it off trying to adjust it ,don’t dip into water to clean !!!!!!
I think his high luanch setting was most consistant. Very small left and right disperion.
Setting 2. Slam dunk. Slightly longer. NOTICEABLY MORE CONTROLLED! He kept it in the fairway without losing distance, perhaps even gaining some. What's not to like?
I dont know why my driver fitter didn't mention this to me. I have adjustments on my driver but I can't de loft it without having an apparent open face on the club. I probably should have got a lower lofted club and then be able to open up or add loft so as to counter my soft fade. No??
Not correct. When you deloft the hosel setting it tilts the head open slightly, but when you (correctly) aim clubface
at the target the face will be correct to the lower loft setting. The opposite happens when you increase loft on the hosel.
Adding loft closes the face for more draw. removing loft opens face for more fade. Upright settings will tilt toe up so the loft is angled more toward a draw as well. If you have a fade or slice as your main misses, then yes, should get a lower lofted club and then add loft till you get to your optimum outcomes.
Speed.78 mh.13.5 degrés...senior..😢 sorry
Way straighter at 12 degree
Congratulations RORY...😅
I don’t know why dude didn’t just admit that the higher loft setting felt better and resulted in a better shot , It was clear as day that those were the best and straightest shots . He’s asking if the data showed his original and lower loft were longer which they didn’t shows where his head is at . Who gives a shit if it’s 10 15 yards longer straight is what counts . Put the ego and stubbornness away try to think creatively and you’ll go from a mid handicapper to low .
Makes no sense he doesnt want more yrds ,better direction , higher launch Higher speed ….he heard some pro say lower loft is best (for that pro) and now he wants to mimic that guy
That tape just changed the swing weight lol....
Good vid, but would have liked the backspin and sidespin numbers plus carry distance.
I doubt that amount of medical tape changed the swing weight more than a 1/4 of a swing weight point.
@@jeromekemmer8148 Aussie humour mate....
G'day mate, I got it. Also amused by the fact your reply has the option to translate to English 😂
@@Willberight2moro Sorry about that. I was wondering. Thank you for taking the time to respond and I'll try not to embarrass myself in the future.
@@jeromekemmer8148 All good champ....the nature of the game is to embarrass ourselves....
And you are basing this test on 5 shots with each setting.....mmm!!
Adding loft closes the clubface?????????? That's a new setup. When I was fitting, the adjustable settings tended to open the face when they added loft, and close it when they dialed it down. Just the same as when you close or open a face naturally. Different mechanism, I guess. I wonder how that works?
Correct the word result at the headline, pls
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Aye heading over in 5
What "REUSLT" were you expecting?
275 yd avg for a mid handicapper? Sounds like you need to work on putting better....lol Great content. the 2 setting looked perfect. 275 striped right to where your aimed ...why bother with 9deg which is harder to hit. Experiment with a shaft 1/2" to 1" longer if you want 290ish. You have a pretty good swing with decent tempo and balance. You can handle a longer shaft rather than a flatter face. Keep the 12 deg...you need it.
This is so player dependent and really depends on cg placement. In a back cg I play a 8.3* in and forward cg I play 10.5* and numbers are identical in launch and spin rates. Take this type of info with a grain of salt.
Nobody’s going to say anything aboot the elephant in the ruum?
He 's too macho to change..
More loft in winter, less in summer.
Wouldn’t the shaft have an lot to do with Height and Distance?
280 yd drive mid handicap Josh’s irons must be below average 😂
Drop your ego, and pick the and clubs that suit your game.
Thumb nail spelling alert!
My son has 120+ swing speed and he uses a Nike SQ 13 degree driver with senior flex shaft> he hits it 300 - 350 yards. The guys we play with cannot believe when he tells them what his driver specs are. He has tried my Ping G20 drivers at 9 and 10.5 and he loses distance. I let him swing a G25 10.5 driver lofted up to 11.5 and he was carrying 300 yards. At the standard 10.5 setting he carried 275. I get my max carry distance with 10.5 and 4-5 degrees upward angle of attack @ 105 mph swing speed, 16 degree launch angle. I haven't come across anyone who gets max distance with less than 10 degrees loft. Many of the pros are now playing 10.3 - 11 degree loft setting on their drivers.
If you have to ask this question then you are not an expert
I am agree with VAN , that there are a lot of
Conflicting advise ,,
Eg , on how to hold the
Golf club in your hand , , milions different opinions , that , you wonder
Which one is correct .
Still ,thousands , ( of
Those ,they call them
Selves pro ) put a video in you tube , and swear to the God that
This is the ultimate golf grip . That is load
Of crap . That's, why
I do not listen to these
Fake experts and I go with my gut . Find out by your self , they are talking crap to sell
Some thing to you .
Alex I must be dyslexic
I couldn't hit a fairway at 10.5
Lowered it to 8.5 and am way more accurate
How does that work 😂
My guess would be to read the post directly above yours.
Or, it gets it on the ground sooner so it doesn't have as much time to get off line.
probably depends on the spin you put on it with your swing
I hit the ball pretty well .. most drives are between 280-300 and I hit a 11.5 driver .. when I try to lower the head I can’t hit the ball .. so I just keep it turned up .. I know its high lofted (swing speed is 110 ish ) but it just works for me
I hit the ball pretty well .. most drives are between 280-300 and I hit a 11.5 driver .. when I try to lower the head I can’t hit the ball .. so I just keep it turned up .. I know its high lofted (swing speed is 110 ish ) but it just works for me