The Mulan Sequel That Just Shouldn't Exist...
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Apparently Disney is unaware that at a certain height falling into water is like hitting concrete and all your bones would shatter instantly and you’d sink like a stone. They’re dead, Disney. They! Are! All! Dead!
Can we just take a moment to contemplate the fact that the majority of Disney deaths are caused by the characters falling from somewhere (mostly villains)? So what exactly is their message here? If you're a good guy and you fall from an extreme height, you'll survive, but if you're the bad guy... well, tough luck, your bones probably shattered! 🤣
MaBYe hEs a sON oF PoSiDEn
D0MiN0 lol 😂
Minecraft Steve: You underestimate my power!
Augusta Rose *every Percy Jackson fan screaming in the distance*
Ok but the Cinderella sequels are actually entertaining... still bad, but entertaining (prince charming literally jumps out of a window)
The third one's gold. The second one is abysmal
I seem to remember really enjoying A Twist in Time😂
The third movie is actually great, but from what I've seen the second one is awful.
I love Cinderella 3
Cinderella 3 A Twist In Time is my favorite Disney movie
"If you dont see the dead body hes not dead"
Omg, Gaston is ALIVE?!
and happily married to loufi ....idfk
Nah, if you watch very closely when he falls for a second you can see skulls in his eyes which signifies he isn't gonna survive the fall.
@@robonaught cool cool cool cool no dout no doubt cool cool but consider , gasfi ? gaston is redemed, and happily married to loufi with a beautiful child
@Miss Lovett id too but thats way too much money in bd currency and would have to sacrifice my 5 years savings of eid i and my left kidney
No, he died of salmonella from eating all of those raw eggs..
video title: The Mulan Sequel That Just Shouldn't Exist
"so the Pocahontas sequel-"
I spent 15 minutes on his channel looking for the Pocahontas video, finally gave up to watch Mulan just to have this happen.
Fer Aguilar BAHAHAHAB
Fer Aguilar .
LMFAOOOOO
Fer Aguilar LOOOOOLLL
Should exist
All throughout middle school my history teacher was like
“DiSnEyS a LiE PoHcAhOnTaS DoEsN’t EvEn MaRy JoHn SmItH She MaRrIes JoHn RoLfE”
But little did she know...
NOOOOO WAYYYYYYYYY HEE LIKED MY COMMENTTTT WHATTTTTTT NOOOOO 🥳🥳🥳🤯🤯🤯 MY HEARTS BEATING SO FAST
Also pohcahontas was like twelve when she defended John smith and he was in his late twenties. People through our history have even questioned if John was even defended by pohcanontas. Basically Disney loves lying to us.
Thank you for putting this! The sequel added more Pocahontas history. And she dies in England
Alice Mckinney I know that what my teacher always complains about
My (very basic) knowledge of Pocahontas' real history makes me think the fact Pocahontas having a romance with John Smith one of the least worrying thing in the Disney movie
Mulan's reaction to Shang's "death"- the blank stare, cry shouting his name and sobbing- used to really get me as a kid. It was and still is my favourite part of that film
same
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Okay but when I was a kid, I was DEVASTATED when Shang sacrificed himself.
Let’s be real, Ming Na’s acting there was incredible.
I love your profil pic omggg
SAME OMG
Oh I definitely cried my eyes out when Mulan slumps down by the bridge/ravine
I just thought it was a lotr ripoff cus I had just watched that when I saw this movie for the first time 😂
Fun fact that a lot of people probably know: The real Pocahontas married John Rolfe, but on the way back to Virginia, she died. She had a son (Thomas Rolfe) and yeah that’s all I can remember from my fourth grade Virginia history class
Smith was smoking gunpowder when Pocahontas was 12
Also John Smith wrote that Pocahontas and 30 other women had, group, interaction.
Virginia is for lovers!❤❤❤
And then she died of smallpox!
@@MeMySkirtandI She died of TB (known in those days as "consumption").
Title: the Mulan sequel that shouldn't exist.
First 6 minutes: Pocahontas 2
-What?
And then hunchback for another few. I thought I was clicking on the wrong video 😂
and the next several minutes were about Huntchback of Notre Dame 2, and only the last 7 minutes were actually about Mulan 2
*Me:* I have a soft spot for Mulan II, weird as it is, it cheered me up when I was kid. Too bad Seamus is going to tear it up in this video.
*Seamus:* It was okay
*Me:* :D
tbh they should have made Mulan 2 about the 3 Soldiers and the Princesses, and maybe how Mulan helps them getting it off and Stuff, and have a NICE realtionship instead of the shitty "Missunderstanding" tropes, Arguments and stuff. Sheng was so..bad in this, its not what he was like..
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
same
9 year old me: I WANNA BE LIKE OTHER GIIIIIIRLS!!!
25 year old me: pffffffft, this movie is so corny but the nostalgia tho
I still sing “I Wanna Be Like Other Girls”. I remember finding out it was coming out on DVD and I started to cry in the middle of the supermarket. When my Mom asked me why was I crying I told her it was happy tears. That’s the day by poor level headed mother found out that I’m extremely emotional.
I know you’re not American, and this probably wasn’t part of your history classes... but Pocahontas and the Johns were all real people. It’s actually a really tragic story.
She (allegedly) saved John Smith from execution when she was 10. At 14, she was kidnapped and held prisoner in Jamestown. There, the colonists made her convert to Christianity, and her name was changed to Rebecca. John Rolfe married her, and they had a baby. It was then decided that Pocahontas would be taken to London and paraded around, showcasing a success story of how a savage could be “saved.” There, in the UK, she died at only about 20 years old, never to see her home again.
Then Disney went and romanticized the whole thing... yayyyy. Kind of ironic, the way the colonists covered up her culture and then Disney covered up how bad it was that they covered up her culture
TBH watching Pocahontas kind of makes me feel nauseous because of how much they romanticized her story and aged her up.
That's not quite accurate. She saved John Smith at 14, and was later kidnapped by colonists. She did marry John Rolfe and travel to England, but she died of an unknown illness on the sail back.
@@hunterlawrence3573 Yeah, it was probably pneumonia.
@@D0MiN0ChAn I don't know what it was, just that all the varying sources I've read all say "unknown illness"
Ellie Newman I’m pretty sure he knows the basic story he probably just didn’t know John Rolfe was her husband
No one sees Sirus Black’s dead body:
Seamus: Where is Sirus, is he safe, is he alright?
It seems that you have killed him in your anger...
@@ps1hagrid786 Noooooooo!
Hello there
Sirius is not dead he went to another dimension hence he went beyonde the veil of reality
@@Lilly_LaVonne But (SPOILERS) when Harry held the resurrection stone(literally to make projections of the DEAD), Sirius comes too. I damning LOVE Sirius, but there's not much evidence...
Pocahontas and the John's were real people. She actually did marry John Rolfe. That's why he exists. Disney pretty much took history and made it romantic and stuff.
A sad part of History
And Pocahontas was kidnapped as a teen, converted into Christianity, renamed, had a baby, and died, never to see her native family again
Yup. Very romantic.
Miss Draco F
I still don't like it
Zoe C y’a and Pocahontas had a son too
@@mysryuza OMG😭😭😭
Does he realize that John Rolfe was an actual historical figure who did marry Pocahontas?
Do nonAmericans know these things??
@@ezonthethinker955 I do, but I'm a history buff
Yeah, I mean, I didn't even learn it in school, I just am a history buff, you can't really blame Seamus for not knowing it.
We didn’t learn it in school but I knew because I looked into where Disney stories originated from because I grew up on fairytales
No, he doesn't, and it's hilarious the way he keeps saying "I don't know why they did this, I don't know why they have the same first name. " I'm actually not sure he realizes pocahontas was an historical figure...
For the record, John Rolph is who the real Pocahontas married, Smith was like 40 when she was like 15 and was basically obsessed with her and wrote abt their “relationship” in numerous books. She had a child with Rolph but died pretty early because she was brought to England and contracted a disease that her body didn’t have any immunity against
she was actually closer to eleven or ten which makes it even creepier!!
@@sarcardinal she was literally younger than me and that makes me upset
@@rockhistoria2537 though you have to take into account historical context life expectancy in general was rather shorter throughout history and basically the moment you reached puberty Male or Female was considered potential mate.
@@morrigankasa570 I know that part, but it's still very bizarre to me
@@morrigankasa570 no woman in the world get on periods at the age of 10 or 11, and again I am telling you she was just 10 when she met him
“All I want is for my Sirius to be ok”
I feel you
Yea 😔
I agreed with everything Seamus said in that mini rant. I miss Sirius
I almost cried on my first reading
Abdullah Amar ALMOST!
Harry could've finally got away from the Dursleys.......
I absolutely HATED pocahontas 2! The first film was about learning that this new culture of people ARENT savages and that colonising a nation because they arent like u is bad, and pocohuntas 2 has her LITERALLY applying white powder making her paler and teaching her how NOT to be a savage the BRITISH way, tf?
that's kind of what happened though...
@@macefrank3342 the first one was nothing like what happened irl so why would they decide to keep the racism messaging a thing? In real life, pocohuntas was 13 when john smith met her and john rolf wasn't a progressive chill dude (hated him in the movie cuz he had literslly 0 arch). It makes no sense to keep the racist imagery if they were ganna change so dam much
TooThleSSplayzzz Blob 13?! I thought she was 14/15... that’s even worse! 🤢🤮
TooThleSSplayzzz Blob yes but she changed her name, converted to Christianity, etc
But that's the point tho. That that is a bad thing
Can I do a nitpick?
The black part of the yin and yang is actually meant to be the more feminine section, but they gave Mulan the white part. Get it right Disney.
Mulan is a top confirmed
since mulan and shang were supposed to have the other halves, i think they gave the masculine section to mulan to symbolize always having her “other half” (shang)
That makes sense. Thanks for pointing it out.
*yin
@@abinyxx Oof sorry
I’m going to be livid if Disney makes a Moana 2 and gives her a love interest.
omfg so will i
Worse, if they make Maui the love interest
Avîčîî Is the king of Edm, it’s just fact. Um? Elsa? Merida?
Avîčîî Is the king of Edm, it’s just fact. Um, Anna’s with Kristoff remember?
Avîčîî Is the king of Edm, it’s just fact. Oh
Ok Mulan 2 was *R O U G H* but the “other girls” song was MY *CHILD 👏 HOOD 👏*
TheCringyVideos🤓 same!!!
Hi
I wanna be like other girlsss!
sammmmeeeeee!!!
hi
I think the reason I liked Mulan 2 as a kid was because I was a total simp for Shang and honestly I can't blame my younger self, he do be looking good with that open long black hair holy moly
Ack I feel targeted 😔
@Alexis Reed it was a great film besides Mushu I liked the storyline and music. I like happy endings:)
I was a really cheesy kid, still one. I loved the romance so badly between the princesses and the three dudes.
@@yourmom66600 It's not Cheesy that was great and nothing wrong with being a romantic even as a guy one of my favorite movies is Princess Bride.
Mulan 2 was a crucial part of my childhood I don’t care if it’s bad.
Audrey the cat nerd Same it was one of my favorite movies.
Mulan was a part of my childhood I honestly forgot until I saw it on Netflix that mulan had a sequel
I was terrified of mulan i only watched mulan 2
I thought it was pretty good because once again the matchmaker is wrong. Plus some stuff that really never been worked out before he popped the question was work out.
It's not even bad, he just doesn't know what a good sequel is 😒
We never see Tadashi’s body in Big Hero 6 after he was supposedly burned to death
Don't give me hope
Actually, I heard something about him being a supervillain in a sequel. But that was years ago, like in 2016 or early 2017.
Don't do this...don't give me hope...
And since that other dude survived THERE’S A POSSIBILITY
Some fans say he managed to escape, if you watch the movie, Hero asks Callaghan about Tadashi when they unmasked him, but Callaghan stayed quiet when Hero asked about his death, seEmS tHeRe iS hOpE!
This Guy:*Complains about Rolfe marrying Pocahontas*
This Comment Section: *_Allow us to introduce ourselves_*
“Knock off John smith” or John Rulfe is historically is Pocahontas’s husband. Pocahontas was actually much younger than John smith like she was 10 and he was 30.
That still doesn't mean that Disney doesn't all the rights and means to make an actual interesting character out of him. He's a knock off John Smith and boring af. It's a Disney film after all. There might be one or two real names in them but the actual story and personalities are nothing like the original/real stories.
John Rulfe wasn’t better lmao. He was so much older than her too, and she basically died thanks to him
I find it surprising how many people don't even know that Pocahontas was an actual person. And the number of people who actually know their history and realize she married John Rolfe, not John Smith, is even smaller.
Also she was forced to marry and raped many times ...yeah disney should be near the real story ...
@@elizabethgordon2596 Yeah but who cares. Its Disney, as if they tell the reall story. They change litterally everything in their Fairytales. So she could aswell marry Smith, since shes not even the REAL Pocahontas, she was a Native who happens to have the same Name, as far as realism goes.
Or would you prefer a 10-ish Year old Girl, beeing Forced to Marry a Old Guy, beeing Raped, forcefully converted to fking Christianity and die of Smallpox? Great Idea.
You should do Little Mermaid 2. It isn't terrible, but the climax is laughably awful from the story's perspective.
I was taught by one of the writers of that movie.
I love that movie
Ryan B. The Little Mermaid 2 is my favorite Disney sequel.
Legs literally save the day.
Lena Marie Anne what did you learn to do? What films have you made? I really would enjoy knowing.
Phoebus and Esmeralda’s kid straight up looks like a tiny Phoebus clone. Does Disney need to learn that genetics exist???
Yep. They do.
I mean my mom says I look exactly like my father and from the pictures I've seen of him it's true.
@@PUNISHERMHS_2021 so your mom doesn't have genes?. Idk, That's what I think of whenever I see someone looking exactly like one parent and not a mixture of both.
Yeah, isn’t the kid supposed to be mixed race 😂
@@Fae_van plot twist: they are siblings
Legend has it Seamus is still saying on.......
And on
Thanks Seamus, awesome vid
And on
And on
And on and on and on-
Legend has it, he's still watching Pocahontas 2 because it just went on and on and on...
And on
And on...
As a little girl I teared up when Shang "died." Even though I knew he wasn't dead.
ellie Same, I think it was Mulan face expression really got me
ellie I literally Laughed
Gaba Gaba Lmfao are you alright 👁👄👁
Title: the Mulan sequel that just shouldn’t exist
Seamus: *here are 2 other sequels before the one you came for*
Wait making a movie about how someone from another culture has to become “civilised” and learn “manners” to gain respect instead being who they are? Isn’t that... racist?
imo, yes
Yes...by the 1st one was racist and completely white washed. It's heart breaking that white kids are still being shown this colonial bull.
I just hope Disney isn't dumb enough to do a live action remake of Pocahontas and drill that fake story into our heads again
learning another culture's manners (including how they dress) while living and working among them isn't racist or even wrong, it's being polite. Believing that they are savages because that is not how they are in their own home or because they have some trouble learning an alien culture is. This film though doesn't seem to have handled it well. They should have stayed away from the historical part if they didn't want to deal with how bad it was back then.
Like they did with the first one.
Karissa Ho they’re changing Mulan A LOT, and I don’t think it was that bad. So maybe they’d change Pocahontas even more if they made it again.
John Rolph was Pocahontas' husband in real life. When Pocahontas and John Smith met in real life, Pocahontas was 7 and John Smith was 60
Exactly Pocahontas is a really sorry excuse to tell American history
The Three Railway Engines Actually, he was in his late 40s and she was a young teenager.
Pocahontas was 10 and John Smith was 27
He was NOT 60 😂 still way older than her, but I believe he was late 20s or early 30s
@@katiechambers1319 However old he was, the ages Pocahontas and John Smith were in real life when they met would have made a romantic relationship between them rather creepy
It was actually rumored that John Smith lied about meeting Pochantas to begin with. John Smith even claimed that she was in love with him. Smith was just the average colonist trying to make a name for himself by lying through his teeth. According to Smithsonian Pocohantas wasn't even her real name, just a nickname. I always enjoyed the movie despite how historically inaccurate it is to begin with. Unlike Sacagawea, Pocohantas has a more tragic story. She was not only forced into marriage at a young age to John Rolfe, but she had to convert to Christianity and be given the name Rebecca. There was not any evidence of their marriage having any form of romance involved, but then again there is no way of truly knowing everything that happened between them unless one of them or even their son had a journal that documented it all. When watching Pocohantas I always imagined my ancestors living a similar lifestyle and it made me feel closer to my Native American roots.
Yea. When I looked deeper into her story, I was sad about how horrible her life was then again I was very interested in what I read and wanted to learn more about each character.
Sacagawea was sold into marriage to a much older white dude at about age 13. He made her come on the expedition with Lewis and Clark. She was pregnant and gave birth on the trip. Her life has some horrific details also.
As bad/pointless/whatever-adjective-you-want-to-put Mulan 2 is, "I wanna be like other girls" is a full-on bop
So is lesson #1
@@hannahc3317 facts
Only one minute in and Seamus says "Pocahontas didn't need a sequel."
Me: *stops the video and thumbs up immediately*
THE HATRED I HAVE HAD FOR POCAHONTAS 2 FOR MOST OF MY LIFE.
Ok, I'll finish the video now.
“The Mulan Sequel That Just Shouldn’t Exist...”
Just like the live action version.
I liked the live action it is less... I just love bad movies I guess.
In my opinion, ppl who generally like the kind of movies disney , would definetly not enjoy the live action bc it goes off the typical style of disney. But some ppl who enjoy a bit serious movies more could probably like it.
Oh btw i do like the live action
I actually enjoyed it. I mean the costumes, the acting, everything is great!
I liked the sequel and the live action was not bad but comparing it to the animation it’s a turd. But the sequel isn’t bad and I like it!
Pocahontas sequel should have been named “Journey to the “ *old world* “
I get that the sequels were meant to train the staff, but still guys at least try lol.
London/England is a new world from the perspective of Pocahontas. It's a mildly clever title for the level of movie it is.
Nathaniel Lovin
Sure but counter point, England had a horse “urine and dung” problem.
No one coming off a boat and seeing streets covered in poop would go “wow new world!”
Seamus: This is just such an uncomfortable love triangle
Twilight: Am I a joke to you?
Video: *is named after Mulan 2*
Seamus: *spends the first half talking about Pocohantas and Hunchback 2*
“They’re on a raft in the sewers”
BEWARE THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA!!!!!!
Julia Faith ah, a person of culture i see.
I CHOKED-
Julia Faith Oh yeah!!!! Crossover everybody!!!!😂👍🏻
THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA IS THERE INSIDE MY MIND
I also want to point out that another French author (Victor Hugo) wrote another book that got adapted into a musical (Les Miz). The book famously goes on about the sewers and he also wrote The Hunchback of Notre Dame. Of course the movie sequel (of Hunchback) involves sewers and there's a weird part of me that wonders if the sewers were a reference to another book by Victor Hugo...
I’ve probably seen Mulan 2 more than the first one, or at least I had when I was ten. The first’s DVD was lost (stuck in an unused disc player) and the second one had three characters me and my two sisters could project ourselves onto so we really didn’t miss it. I was the youngest so my future husband by default was going to be the short angry guy, but we’d always fight over who was most like the middle sister because Ling was marginally normal looking and... _kinda_ funny??
Anyway I’ll defend Mulan II and Lion King II until my dying day
Okay I just rewatched it and it’s the older sister who ends up with Ling. I’m a charlatan. I am nothing. I dishonor my family.
I watched it too, and me and my sisters had a similar thing. We just fought over the colors because we didn't know their ages
@@A_Hey Dishonor on you, dishonor on your cow.
I do love Mulan II, but I do think it is kinda bad lowkey...
I probably would have watched it a lot too but the bootleg dvd of Mulan 2 we had also had El Dorado on it so ... 🤷♀️
It was ok, but the fact that they made shange explosive and pretty much abusive ruined it for me.
Relationships are like that, especially when contemplating marrying someone that you haven’t really known (at least emotionally anyway) for at least a year...
@@zvezdoblyat well that’s every Disney movie for u they only know eachother for like a week 😂
Getting sued by screen rant is *super easy barely an inconvenience*
Woah seamus hearted my comment
I am honoured
Fair use.
"There are no consequences for anything that happens in this film."
*glaring at Frozen 2 intensifies*
Ribotto Studios tbh my biggest issue with frozen two is the music. There is literally 7 less songs than the original
ThatAngelFoto that should definitely not be your biggest problem with frozen 2
Janni Walugembe there were 7, not so good songs in frozen 2, 14 great, all memorable songs in the original
what are you talking about? there were 9 songs in the original
@@annahs.channel Hi there! Massive Frozen, and Frozen 2 fan here, how the hell are ya? I notice yer saying Frozen has 14 songs when it doesn't.
I have no idea how you even got that number when it only has 9 songs if we're counting Reindeers are Better Than People, and one is a reprise! Are we counting the Demi Lovato version of Let it Go as well? Because even if we add that, we'll only get 10.
Frozen 2, on the other hand, does only have 7 songs, no reprise... Unless we're counting Reindeers are Better Than People here, too, in which case, we have 8. Now, if we are counting the Demi Lovato version of Let it Go, we can only be fair and add the 3 song covers in the end credits as well, making it 11 songs, 1 more than the original.
SO! With that said, I'm sorry, but I have to award you no points.
I lowkey liked Mulan 2. It actually helped with the (main) character development, and the new characters were so fun and likeable. The story was entertaining (not original, entertaining) and the songs were iconic.
Totally agree !!
I respect your opinion and I myself did not hate it since I like the three soliders however that film totaly screwed over mushu
I think you're possessed
Agreed!
the i want to be like other girls song lives in my heart and soul. I loved mulan 2 as a kid
That reference to pitch meetings was TIGHT! Understanding it was super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Seamus:Referencing different channels are tight!
Screen Rant:You can’t just rip us off like that
Seamus: whoops
Screen Rant: whoopsie
It's just fact that pitch meetings is screen rant.
Producer seamus: So you have a reference to another channel for me?
Writer Seamus: yes sir, I do
I mean if we're being honest here, Pocahontas II is probably closer to historical facts than the first. They still got it wrong by making her and John Rolfe legitimate love interests because that is NOT how it went down. Some of the other stuff is kinda true. Like her being considered savage and being forced to not act like a native and her dying and everything. The first one was just wrong all the way. Like nothing about it other than the fact that, hey, the Native Americans met the Europeans at some point in time and then there's John Smith, is right in any way.
I didn't like the sequel though. Like okay, if you wanna make a story about a Native American girl, fine. Heck, add romance if you want. It's not likely that it would have happened, but still, in comparison to the right of making romance in Pocahontas, it's better in some regard. Make your own storyline. Don't change history and make romance between a literal child and a grown man and think by making their ages closer to one another that it'd be dismissable. Like come on, dudes, you bullied the natives enough in the past, don't insult their entire existence by romanticizing that crap.
I... I am so sorry. Once I start talking about history and the accuracy of their artistic representations, I dive off a deep end. You don't have to read this at all, I just needed to release my anger.
It's alright. I feel the exact same way about Americans whitewashing foreign masterpieces, because they just can't fucking read subtitles.
@@ps1hagrid786 That's kinda funny because my brother thinks the same way about some of the things he likes to watch. He hates English dubs and remakes and stuff. I have to agree with him. Leave them original, they sound and/or look so much better. And for real, the amount of censorship they use when they do it. Like, do they think we can't handle it or some crap? Okay yes, I do admit some people probably would say stuff about it because there's always at least one Karen complaining about how her 5-year-old son deserves to watch an X-Rated film without all the details. But still.
I can't lie, sometimes us Americans are pieces of crap. Some more than others, but crap nonetheless.
@Xiletelo Mabasa EXACTLY! Like hey, I don't mind learning about history and all, but don't give kids the wrong idea by romanticizing this crap. I can't lie, I like the songs from the movie, but it's so hugely historically inaccurate that as a teenager now (especially after a few thorough history classes) I'm just like.... Why?
local dreamer I don’t think they intended to make it represent or insult the original story.
don't be sorry! as a poc myself, it's annoying to see Americans be careless with real peoples cultures and tradition sometimes. you're speaking your mind about that, and you have every right to do so.
the whole Pocahontas II thing could just be summed up by the ppl making it going "OH shit, historical accuracy," and then proceeding to fail just like they did in the first movie
I think the accuracy was bad because it was a kid's film and they couldn't put rape, a large age gap marriage, or a deadly disease that kills the main character by the end of the film.
@@lizamoonblooded4196 agreed, perhaps a sign, amongst many others, that this story was not to be adapted into a romanticized children's film
@@anthtotallynotmr.uttersont5481 I think they did pretty well with what they were working with. I looked up Pocahontas and I found out how horrible her life really was and how disgusting the men in her story were.
@@lizamoonblooded4196 fr
"All I wanted was for Sirius to be alive and ok "
Me same
Same
Same 😔
Big mood
Same.
Also if they ever remade the movies I want Sebastian Stan to play him
Same
last time i was this early Seamus had a table
Lemony101 petition to bring back the table for cameos
"And all I want if for my Sirius Black to be ok!"
Oh my god, that is me.
He spoiled Harry Potter before I could finish which is just mean!!
@@soraflower9308 poor you
And me
Same
I'm just gonna say that 5 year old me shipped Mulan and Shang so I was excited to see them get together OFFICIALLY when the sequel was eventually released. Still a weird movie in hindsight.
Hello Seamus I HAVE COME TO GIVE YOU VIRTUAL HUGS
I also want to join in on the virtual hugging.
@@shay.w.5812 i will also join the virtual group hug
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Lemony101 me 4
WE SHALL COLLECTIVELY GIVE HIM A VIRTUAL TACKLE
The only ''sequel'' that matters is The Lion King 1 and a half
Lion King 2 and Bambi 2 aren't half bad
Also Lion King 2. Not for the movie itself, I forgot everything, but for the Song One of Us to this day is stuck in my head (tho there the German Version of the song.)
essa 🎶 booorn in greed, raaaaised in hate, heeeeelpless to defyyyyy his fate 🎶
I live Lion king 1/2 and Lion king 2
True freindo, true!
"There are no consequences to anyone's actions in this film" hahaha I mean true, but I used to love Mulan II as a kid and maybe that's what screwed up our generation 😂😂😂
Hahaha same
I remember enjoying scenes with the princesses and the soldiers but even as a kid, Mushu really annoyed me.
Anyone else wondering what happened afterwards? There's no alliance between the Kingdoms! Was everyone wiped out by the Mongols or something?!
i loved the scenes with the soldiers and princess's
@@absolite6 They probably felt deeply inspired by Mulan's courage and selflessness, so they changed their mind, and they all lived happily ever after (especially if you don't google the history of the actual Mulan).
Seamus: "He wants to steal the big expensive bell."
Me: "I can relate to that."
(For people who aren't me, I was playing dungeons and dragons and I stole a big expensive bell)
Hell yea boii
you sound like my spirit animal
my brain: is it pretty?
me: yes?
my brains: Is it expensive?
me: ...yes?
my brain: steal it.
me: why?
my brain: because shiny,
me:....ok.
Of these three I'm going to have to say Hunchback 2 has the dumbest plot, and that's really saying something. Mulan 2, as inane as the plot is, seems like something that could actually happen, and Pocahontas 2 IS something that actually happened (sort of) as the real life Pocahontas did go to England, though not quite in the way shown here (of course plenty of actual history didn't happen the way it did in the Pocahontas movie. It's one of the few Disney animated movies based, although VERY loosely, on actual historical people and events.)
bruh when mulan is crying after shang “dies” it is heart wrenching though.
That “We are not the same person” piece sent me lol
I mean< I love how in the Pocahontas sequel she gets arrested for like, being against animal cruelty. Like ah yes, first sign of a savage is that they want to protect the wildlife
Daria Borisova I think you’ll find that is desired to protect the wildlife drove her to call king James “the real savage“, so what she was actually arrested for was insulting the king. Animal cruelty is terrible, and maybe it did take Powhatan animist to remind them of protecting wildlife, but insulting the king was the crime she was arrested for.
why didn't mulan 2 just send the emperor's daughters on a trip to sight see and whatever?
Because plot conflict 😒
Seamus: this video is about mulan 2
Also Seamus: Waits until 10 minutes to talk about mulan 2.
JK, I liked how you talked about the other 2 movies.
P.S. I loved that editing bit you did with the opening yin yang symbol
3:33 because Pocahontas irl actually married John Rolfe. Disney’s mistake: she was enslaved at the time & had a ton of pressure to assimilate to get a tad bit more freedom
The Hunchback sequel makes me so mad. I love the first film so much, the second one is just like a slap in the face.
It's the spit in the face Esmeralda gave to Frollo
All I remember from the first is everyone hating on gypsy’s.....
Seamus: sing more songs about London!
Sweeny Todd: Hold my razor...
Mood
"I just want Sirius to be back"
Seamus a few months ago
"Nothing important happens in book three , Sirius just introduced but he died 2 books later so it's not really important"
Really shows how your feelings towards how a character is used is and how a character is written can be different
As a little kid when I saw the scene in Pocahontas 2 when John Smith “died” I rage quit and never watched the rest 😭😂
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Okay, everyone is talking about Pocahontas 2 and how John Rolfe is her husband in history, but does disney not know how bells work, like... the jewels are on the inside, with the part that makes it ring. You ring it bam, all the priceless jewels turn to expensive dust.
Also, if you want to get technical Pocahontas never sails back to America, she gives birth to her only son in Europe and then dies 4 years later or small pox or something similar so...
So where are all the Greg's and little stinkers at 3:35
I wanna know too
Seamus Gorman
I was very excited to see that!
Ikr when I say that I was so amazed
The fastest growing army is everywhere, including here.
I was shook . . .
Seamus: "And now that I think about it, we never see Sirius Black's dead body, do we?"
Me: "It's pretty implied he's dead."
Seamus: "Guys, can you just let me have this, because it's been 15 years and all I want is for my Sirius to be alive and okay!"
Me: "I know, me too, I'll let you have it. Also, what?!"
After this series is done can you please do something like this with Disney Channel Original Movies? I'm curious to see your opinions on them! Thank you if you even read this comment!
Snake - Eye YES THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!
Teen beach movie first! One and Two!
"and we are the same person"
ah yes, I see that you are a man of culture as well
"a man whos interested in women is looking to fall in love"
we love an inclusive king who doesn't think men liking women is a given
It's a tradition at my elementary school that when we do our week-long science trip we watch Mulan on the way there and Mulan 2 on the way back. It is the only reason I have seen that movie.
The reason they changed the pokahontas movies is because Disney got backlash for making a false stories about pokahontas and in real life she ended up marrying John Rolfe who was a tobacco farmer or something like that.
Hi, as John Rolfe and Pocahontas’ descendant, as well as being part Native American, I just wanna let you know that... Pocahontas and John Rolfe actually did end up getting married and having kids. Specifically, my great-something-uncle. So... yeah... I kinda found that first bit a little offensive? Don’t get me wrong, the movies are way worse and totally not accurate to Native society, but... yeah...
Then, like, why did they hook her up with John Smith in the first place, man?!
@@eatatjoes6751 Because it's an old Disney movie. There had to be some element of romance, even if it wasn't historically accurate.
ooohh I'm so sorry. I can't get through these movies because I know it's not historically accurate
There’s a tiny chance I’m related to you.
There’s someone who is sometimes claimed to be a daughter of Pocahontas but wasn’t written into the will when everyone else was. I think her name was Penelope?
I’m pretty sure a great grandmother made this shit up on the family tree she made but no one’s actually gotten their dna tested for Powhatan ancestry so who knows
@@blah7983 Hi cousin! LOL
You should watch Bambi 2. It’s really entertaining and I almost cried.
I loved it too! I know, weird coming from a platypus, but i'm learning about human pop culture
@@twtlifesucks6354 you're not a platypus you're Koda and Koda's a bear. 🧐
Yeah it's soo good. I actually know it more that the first one. Esp that part when he tells Bambi to run from the dogs and man. It scared the hell out of me.
I haven’t seen the Bambi films since I was like 7 I should really watch them again
I think you just awoke a deep deep memory in me of watching Mulan 2! I didn't even watch Mulan, but I remember the Ying and Yang thing so vividly!
Okay but, as terrible as Pocahontas ll is... “I AM THE GHOoOoOoST OF JOHN SMITH” is the best line in any Disney sequel ever.
"And all I want is for my Sirius to be alive and okay" - Me too, me too.
“I can’t wait to get sued by screen rant”
Seamus 2020
”There’s a musical number just about how great London is.”
Sweeney Todd disagrees.
I love how we all believed Seamus could edit the yin and yang symbol better yet he still proved it to us.
IT’S THE FACT I COULD DO IT IN UNDER 2 MINUTES THAT REALLY BUGGED ME
@@SeamusGorman4 do you think the disney animators could spare 2 minutes on mulan 2?
I don’t know why but when you said “that’s his personality he’s a evil man” it just cracked me up so much 😂😂
I don't know why this bothered me but: Quasimodo there's more to me is five words
AJtheNugget same 🤣🤣🤣
there’s is actually two words tho so it’d be 6 words
You know, if Walt Disney was alive, this and belle's Magical World would not be the movie's that he wanted to show his audience. Those would kill it for Walt.
“I can’t wait to be sued by Screen Rant” 😂 this is why I subscribe!
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*someone clearly has a type for nice GUYS called John*
Me: *looks at Hamilton*
"I'M JOHN LAURENS IN THE PLACE TO BE-"
Sit down John you fat mother-
I’ve found my people. 😍😍😍
He said nice british guys called john I think
THEATRE KIDS UNITE!
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Seamus being cynical: greatest series on RUclips.
Me being 100% serious: greatest series on RUclips.
I got a Seamus vid as a birthday present let’s go
“All I want is my Sirius to be alive and ok.” Me too Seamus
Unpopular opinion:
Bambi II is better than the original Bambi
• Less way too long nature scenes
• Animation looks better
• We actually see Bambi being sad over his mother’s death which the first one didn’t really have idk why
• The prince (Bambi’s Dad) and Bambi’s relationship development is adorable and I actually felt that his character was better than Bambi’s mom
Also, I actually like Mulan II it’s not nearly as good as the original, but I feel like overall it fits the theme of Mulan.
Loki Odinson Awe really I felt like watching it it wasn’t that bad
Delaney Stajduhar another unpopular opinion:
Whole concept of the expensive bell in Notre Dame was not a bad idea, and in general the hunchback of Notre Dame two was almost good. ALMOST. The idea that there is a bell that looks like a normal bell, but inside is encrusted with precious stones, it’s a very clever reference to how Quasimodo is more beautiful on the inside than outside. The fact that there is A traveling circus ringleader who uses sleight-of-hand magic to steal valuable things, not to mention having a somewhat similar skin tone to Esmeralda, means that Frolo was right to some extent about Romani people being capable of criminal activity and cultural subversion [really though, it depends on the individual, not the group. There are bad gypsies out there, but that doesn’t make them all bad]. The idea of Quasimodo not so much resenting that Phoebus is married to Esmeralda, but just resenting Esmeralda being married in general could go someway to showing that Quasimodo wasn’t so much in love with Esmeralda so much as he was in love with the IDEA of Esmeralda. He wanted somebody who would love him unconditionally, and he thought he had found that in her, but he didn’t. All in all, this film could’ve been a fair sequel we’re not for the fact that they took the easy way out, instead of working at it a little bit more.
Christian Ali 👏👏👏 Amazing
Delaney Stajduhar It’s not a great movie, but it could have been.
The original Bambi is really emotionally driven, which was typical for those early Disney feature length films (Snow White was similar in this regard; not really a lot of character or plot, but very emotionally interesting and visually interesting). The nature scenes I felt were kind of the whole point of Bambi. Most of the film is just about nature, and about the lives of the creatures living there. Those long visually moody scenes are what I like about it, not to mention the gorgeous backgrounds.
But some people don't really like that kind of film, and that's ok. Its only a "sometimes watch" for me personally.
i was obsessed with all 3 of these films as a child. your criticisms are valid and true but i pretend i do not see them because of nostalgia.
My favorite song that came out of these sequels is the "Where Do I Go From Here" in Pocahontas 2...... But I do agree with everything. And the London song so also entertaining.
When Seamus said “all I want is for my Sirius to be alive and okay.” I felt that
The reason they introduced John Rolfe is because he was her actual husband irl
Therapist: "handsome" Quazie motto dosen't exist, he can't hurt you
Handsome Quazie moto:
How did you spell Quasimodo wrong twice?
The reason John Rolf was the love interest in the sequel is because the real Pocahontas married John Rolfe, not John Smith, who was a different person. But neither movie was historically accurate at all, so I don't understand why they felt the need to do that.
Mulan, Pocohantas, and Hunchback were PERFECT alone...Then...The sequels happened...
Pocohantas is not PERFECT it is racist
@@justariane3241 TBH, I actually hate Pocahantas. It's my least favorite Disney Princess movie ever. It's horribly incorrect historically and it was always dull to me. But compared to its sequel...It seems like a real beauty in comparison.
ArianeIsAwesome I think that was the purpose though. To show the racism and how it was fkr no particular reason
@@pollygotacracker9396 Yea, I think that's the point too. It's to show that the divide of racism is stupid and that people are still people no matter their color or race.
Long ago, the original Disney movies lived together in harmony.
*....Then, everything changed when the Sequel Nation attacked*
If anyone's read Mulan's Twisted Tale, Reflection, it's amazing and makes the combining of the family trees, or whatever it was, make a lot more sense
How so?
Seamus Pocahontas was a real person. So was John Smith and John Rolph.
John Adolph was her husband. That’s why they end up together
I think he knows that. I don’t think he is THAT ignorant
I think we all know that
John Rolph was also a jamestown settler and married pocahontas who then was baptized and had her name changed to rebecca rolph.
VCR idk the reviewer
Why did she change her name?