Sub 70 Irons Review & the club I NEVER THOUGHT I'D PICK!

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024

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  • @sgtbillsilvia1100
    @sgtbillsilvia1100 Год назад +8

    I find I focus more with the “scary” blades. Sub70 rocks and their blades are fantastic!!!

  • @briandenton2097
    @briandenton2097 8 месяцев назад +4

    I think blades are the best type of game improvement iorn. You can really tell when you hit a bad shot as well as a good one. Actually makes you need a better swing then some of the more bandaid GI iorns.

  • @mfluentz1378
    @mfluentz1378 Год назад +2

    Love the reactions with the MB! It's THE CHOSEN ONE!! without a doubt lol
    Love all your vids, and glad I found your newer channel. Thanks for the awesome content and cheers!!

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад +1

      Thanks. That MB is going to be featured in an upcoming build video for me. Very excited for it!

  • @ronharris1698
    @ronharris1698 Год назад +2

    You have convinced me. I am digging out my muscle backs out of the garage.

  • @andrewc1081
    @andrewc1081 Год назад +5

    I've been playing 699s (6-PW) for 2 years now and absolutely love them. I added the 699 2 driving iron this past summer which has been my new fairway finder, albeit only ~190yds lol.

    • @samuelcollie2050
      @samuelcollie2050 Год назад

      I have a similar set of 699's 6-AW. I like them but at 74, I am going to look for something more helpful for my old age golf! I want to try the Mizuno 923 HL after Christmas bills are paid.

  • @pieter5004
    @pieter5004 4 месяца назад +2

    I need these clubs in my life. Ive currently got the sub 70 639 cb clubs and they are amazing. I could not be happier, not to mention how beautiful they look. But...Ive been trying to find an excuse to buy those 659 mbs. I have dreams about seeing those clubs in my bag xD

  • @steve-o5793
    @steve-o5793 Год назад +2

    I got the 699 pro driving iron used liked it so much that I got a set of the matching irons and they are great. Also sub 70 has the best customer service ever.

  • @galemurphy4914
    @galemurphy4914 8 месяцев назад +1

    I game the Sub 70 699Pros and love them. Have a 699U as well. The 949 hybrids are great as is the 849Pro Driver. Lots of shaft options as well. Fantastic company!

    • @josephmiller3165
      @josephmiller3165 8 месяцев назад

      I just discovered the company and have been looking for real feedback, thanks!

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  8 месяцев назад

      Just put their 4 wood in my bag.

  • @djrixxard
    @djrixxard Год назад

    Two fantastic first shots. You've sold me ;)

  • @oatechaosincycles
    @oatechaosincycles Год назад +2

    Played with a scratch golfer who used the muscle back sub 70s.
    We were at Barnsley Gardens resort here in GA. He said he loved them and wanted the Takomos at first but was glad he ended up with them.

    • @markh141
      @markh141 Год назад +1

      Love Barnsley Gardens great course

  • @kylewilla9197
    @kylewilla9197 Год назад +1

    Thanks this helps me feel better about my 699 clubs coming. Only thing I wish I talked with sub70 more about was the shaft. I picked the stiff project x 6.0 graphite with out much research besides how far I hit my 7 iron. Either way has to be better then my goodwill set of irons for $15. 😂

  • @gregbarthjr9621
    @gregbarthjr9621 Год назад

    Thank you for the demo and review of the Sub 70's. I currently have a set of the OG 699 and 699 pros in a combo set. Fitted at The Seventy. Love them.

  • @chadmichael7794
    @chadmichael7794 Год назад +3

    Those are some nice clubs ! I tried the demo on the 659 cb and loved it but it had a stiff dg shaft in it and the ball flight was a tad lower than I wanted. Wished I could have tested it with a proper fit shaft. I believe you should take the mb to the course and play a few holes . Just might be the club for you .

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад +6

      Going to hit it a few more times but am already picking out build components for a set. Probably end up as a Mobile Clubmaker video!

  • @bassmasta9117
    @bassmasta9117 6 месяцев назад +1

    I am a newer golfer and found a black set of the 659CB's for an insane price used and got them so this should be interesting😅 I have been using game improvement cobra irons that are super chunky looking and very forgiving so I am excited to try out some less forgiving "good" clubs

  • @barneygermany530
    @barneygermany530 Год назад +2

    That's, why i play blades an slim CB's (splitset) 🥰
    3 iron, i hit the slim/tiny CB better than a driving iron🤷🏻‍♂️
    Smaler club is bigger ball😉🤣

  • @matthewsalera9967
    @matthewsalera9967 Год назад +7

    Mark Crossfield did a great video a few years ago comparing a 1980s blade against the Mavrik gave improvement irons, and used a statistician to prove the blades were actually more consistent and not much shorter. Blades will give you more consistent spin across the face, whereas the big cavities can cause fliers or dead balls with spin rates (esp really low spin rates) in a wide range. Most people need to try the opposite of normal fitting for irons, lower launch and higher spin.

    • @legend9018
      @legend9018 Год назад +1

      You should note that Mark Crossfield also plays the Srixon Zx4 irons, their most forgiving iron in their lineup.

  • @fretless05
    @fretless05 Год назад +1

    I'd love to try the MBs. I play a combo set of the 699 irons and 699U utility irons. I love them, but I bought them after a couple of long conversations with a club builder at Sub70 talking about my game and what I was playing before- sadly, I didn't have an opportunity for a fitting or to test the other iron options. I've always thought the forged irons they sell are beautiful, but didn't consider them because at the time, my handicap was in the low 20s... but I'm now down into the low teens and wonder how I'd do with the 649 MBs, which are perhaps some of the most beautiful irons I've seen. Logically, I have no business touching them, but videos like this make me wonder!

  • @nato77379
    @nato77379 Год назад +4

    I purchased the 699 Pro irons a year ago. I love them. Forgiving and definately make me look like a better player. LOL. Great review.
    I wish someone would do a side by side comparison of Sub 70 vs Takomo.

  • @MPerski
    @MPerski Год назад +1

    Your results with the “muscle back” iron got me thinking 🤔
    … I’ve been playing PXG 0311 irons for over a year, and love them. And although the head is smaller than my old Ping G400’s, I seem to hit them more consistent.
    Could it be the larger “game improvement” head allows more slightly “off center” hits (thus, inconsistency) whereas the smaller head forces you to hit closer to the sweet spot? And although designed for better players (who hit the center more often), results in more consistent ball striking, even for us mid-handicap players?
    … just a thought great video 👍🏻 love your thought process.
    Keep up the good work.

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад +1

      Could be. I am finishing up a build of a set of these MBs so I will find out very soon if I actually hit them as well as I have in sim testing.

  • @michaelbrantl5543
    @michaelbrantl5543 Год назад

    Just purchased the 699 pros 5-9
    They are awesome
    Also bought the 939v hybrids in 4,5.
    They are great also.

  • @jonq8714
    @jonq8714 8 месяцев назад

    I'm a Maltby guy, but those 659 CB's are gorgeous...

  • @bmatt9379
    @bmatt9379 Год назад

    Great clubs! I have the older 699 pro model. Great clubs!

  • @christopherdyer1862
    @christopherdyer1862 Год назад +1

    Hi AJ, great review.have a question about hollow body irons. I have PXG Gen 4 forged and my ping i210 Wich is cast actually feel better. Don't hit the ping as far due to loft. But sometimes the hollow body seems a little off on distance. Some average some long. What's your thoughts on hollow body irons. Thanks. And great vid on your golfworks tool review 👍

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад +1

      I think if you miss the center the distances seem to be a bit hit or miss. Some long, and then some short.

  • @donreinholz8121
    @donreinholz8121 Год назад

    So are you making a set of muscleback irons Ajay? Lol Looks wise I think I like the 2nd or 3rd head the best. My Golfworks STi2's arrive tomorrow so I am anxious to see how they hit for me.

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад

      STi2 is good looking!

  • @_ErIc1976
    @_ErIc1976 6 месяцев назад

    If in Chicago land area call make an appointment . Do t just go there they are booked weeks in advance . They do custom fittings plan about 2 hours bring something to drink . Great clubs and yes the MB irons are incredible 90 bucks a club half the price of the Taylor made P70

  • @normfowler7509
    @normfowler7509 Год назад

    Great video as usual!

  • @seegarsmkr
    @seegarsmkr Год назад +1

    AJ, Which would you pick between the Takomo 201 vs the Sub 70 TC, and why?

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад

      I really like the 201 head, slightly more forgiving and great feel. However 1 negative. First, you can only get 4-pw so if you want different or matching gap wedge you're out of luck. The Sub70 also give you 3 different finishes including raw which I am always a fan of.

  • @cleve0h
    @cleve0h Год назад

    Great stuff! MB!

  • @brianpettet3436
    @brianpettet3436 Год назад

    Great video!

  • @legend9018
    @legend9018 Год назад +1

    One thing you have to consider as well is that as you put different heads on the same shaft each one has different weighting and weight distribution. That can affect how the shaft deflects and it can also move your strike on the face. That’s why most fitters look for a head first that a player prefers and then matches the shaft to that head.

  • @Bozolips
    @Bozolips Год назад

    One thing to remember, launch monitors only do so much, nothing like taking them out on the course

  • @clifflocklear2846
    @clifflocklear2846 Год назад +1

    Do you have these in your fitting studio? Sub70 needs a fitting location down this way.

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад +3

      These are my fitting heads I used for this test. Only person I know who carries them.

  • @joebouscaren1
    @joebouscaren1 Год назад +1

    I have learned a lot from your club building videos but I have a question. Can you set the GC quad/ foresight sports 2020 for an automatic mulligan such that you could hit a number of balls from the tee on a par 3 rather then having to hit the m key on the computer keyboard repeatedly

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад

      I had mine set to practice and then picked the course, hole, and tee. That let me just keep hitting the same shot.

    • @joebouscaren1
      @joebouscaren1 Год назад

      @@EFG2 thanks for the tip!

  • @billmalec
    @billmalec Год назад

    Nice! Surprising.

  • @AzaelV10
    @AzaelV10 Год назад

    between 201s from takomo and 659, what are the differences you see regarding distance and forgiveness? im still in between takomo and sub70

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад +1

      201 is a little thicker and maybe just a touch more forgiving. Other than that, pretty close. Of course you can only get 4-p with Takomo so if you want a different configuration you need to look elsewhere.

  • @roadtoscratchgolf3481
    @roadtoscratchgolf3481 Год назад

    Very nice looking clubs. How do they compare to New Level clubs?

    • @jcstreck74
      @jcstreck74 Год назад +2

      I’ve owned the Sub70 639CB (same size/footprint as the 659CB) and have the NLG 902-OS. The NLG are smaller and have much less of a sole than the Sub70. I was shocked how small/thin the NLG were when I got them, especially for their larger more forgiving version of their forged options. Not near as forgiving as the Sub70’s are on the course, at least for me anyway. I’ll be selling my NLG and going back to Sub70 and the 659 series. NLG are just too thin, narrow, and unforgiving for my game at the moment. But that’s just my experience.

    • @glenburr6755
      @glenburr6755 Год назад +2

      @@jcstreck74 thanks for that comparison. 👍🏼

  • @corybohn2013
    @corybohn2013 11 месяцев назад

    Which one would you say is comparable to a p790

  • @rayfarrell9482
    @rayfarrell9482 Год назад

    Would love to hear your thoughts on the Sub 70 749 irons.

  • @rangegoat
    @rangegoat 10 месяцев назад

    What shaft flex and grips were on the 659mb?

  • @dm4789
    @dm4789 Год назад

    Looking at these for my 15YO daughter. She would like to pair these irons w/ Vokey wedges. She plays at scratch with US Kids Tour Series irons and wedges presently. Driver swing speed is about 86 and she hopes to hit 92 by spring.
    Any advice on swing weighting considerations that we ponder how to move forward?

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад +1

      I think total weight is always more important than SW. Swing weight tells us that all the clubs will feel similar but in many cases it should be determined by the component parts, ie lighter shaft will naturally have lighter SW.

    • @dm4789
      @dm4789 Год назад

      @@EFG2 I know so little about club building that I didn’t know that a lighter shaft would lower swing weight. I guess I assumed that a head would feel (and swing) heavier with a lighter shaft.
      To have clubs feel similar, do you like to have wedges and irons matched on swing weight or with some short of slow progression?

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад

      @@dm4789 I usually like the wedges to be slightly heavier both in swing weight and in shaft weight.

    • @dm4789
      @dm4789 Год назад

      @@EFG2 Do you have an opinion about graphite vs steel shaft for wedges and irons for a 15 YO girl who plays scratch with US Kids Tour Series clubs currently with a swing speed just below 90 with the driver? I’m leaning toward graphite so that the increase in weight isn’t huge. Should that be a consideration (why or why not)?

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад

      @@dm4789 You can get 80g steel shafts and 130g graphite so it really comes down to feel unless you are looking under 80g shafts. Would really need some more info or video to say what weight I would recommend without doing an actual fitting.

  • @Smiththebat
    @Smiththebat Год назад

    When you talked about that MB sole, it makes me wonder how you’d hit it off actual grass…

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад

      I am a little scared to play them off wet turf. Ball first contact is a must with these.

    • @Smiththebat
      @Smiththebat Год назад

      @@EFG2 they look awesome. A lot of these “budget” companies blades seem to stack right up with the big names!

  • @legend9018
    @legend9018 Год назад

    So much discussion and videos about blades versus split cavity or cavity back or hollow bodies etc. It’s been my experience that my worst strike with a cavity back/hollow body is much better than my worst strike with a blade. But this difference is really only most pronounced in longer irons (4-6). Let’s be honest, most players should not be carrying a 4 iron and some not even a 5 iron. The point is this game is hard enough already so why wouldn’t you take advantage of any edge that you can get. I play with a guy who uses Mizuno blades and he struggles every single time out there but refuses to change or even try something else. I just don’t get the blade elitism in some players though and I’m not some amateur hack either (5.8 hcap).
    Pros use blades because they spin more and that allows them to shape shots. For the average golfer more spin doesn’t typically help because it can make shots go more offline. Amateur player would benefit from more loft but not necessarily more spin.
    The first way I got my scoring down was switching from my blade wedges to the cbx2 wedges. Way better on my mishits and from then on in I transformed my bag. I have the Cleveland chipper as well that has helped even more. There’s a saying in golf “it doesn’t matter how, only how many” what helps you get the ball in the hole in the fewest strokes possible. Period.

  • @jameshitsbombs7725
    @jameshitsbombs7725 Год назад

    I bought the 659 MB. I like them but I want to ask a few questions about bending the clubs. What is the best way to contact you.

    • @commanderchair
      @commanderchair Год назад

      Are you thinking of bending them weak? They seem to be a great option if they were 2 degrees weaker but taking off that much offset with irons that already have not much offset could go wrong.

    • @jameshitsbombs7725
      @jameshitsbombs7725 Год назад

      @@commanderchair bending them strong. Too much backspin. I'm thinking about doing both long drive and mini tour tournaments to prepare for PGA Tour Latinoamérica. My stock 9 iron I swing between 106-108 mph. My stock 6 iron is 114-116mph. My driver(Not my Long Driver Driver but my regular driver) I'm swing 138-140mph on the course. My issue is way to much spin. I don't have issues with left right dispersion. I'm a good golfer and shoot underpar unless I'm having a bad day. My issue is since gaining speed, I spin too much. A few long drive guys that also play mini tour told me they all had to bend their irons strong to correct the issue. Also I have some videos on my profile to prove those are my real numbers.

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад

      I would just bend them, see what happens, and need be bend back. At your speeds I honestly don’t know what to expect. Just have to try it.

  • @theseanie9958
    @theseanie9958 Год назад

    I saw a 5 iron at my old local course that cost about 600 dollars made by sub 70 and I don't understand how anyone would justify buying that

  • @CamMacMastermusic
    @CamMacMastermusic Год назад

    Wouldn’t someone benefit more from using CB’s , MB’s or “blades” I would imagine they would learn to strike the ball more accurately, quicker ???

  • @dameionrutherford5452
    @dameionrutherford5452 Год назад

    Curious why you picked the 699 instead of the 699 pro?

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад

      I am not sure of the exact status, but I know they are essentially unavailable right now and have been for a few weeks. 699 is readily available, pro isn't.

    • @clifflattanzio5267
      @clifflattanzio5267 Год назад

      @@EFG2 Sub70 coming out with version 2 of both the 699 and 699 Pro in January 2023. I’m currently deciding which I want to order as I’m moving from Mizuno 223’s. I wish you would get both of those new irons coming out and compare them in a similar video for us mid-handicaps. This video was great.

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад

      @@clifflattanzio5267 will work on getting them!

  • @greggarner7674
    @greggarner7674 Год назад

    I’m very interested in trying out these clubs. How do i get in touch?

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад

      Email me at-
      adam@elitefitgolf.com

  • @edf9992
    @edf9992 Год назад +10

    With all due respect it’s a misconception that blades are hard to play. Blades are beautiful have a sweet feel, and much easier to hit then the ones from the 1970’s.

    • @Smiththebat
      @Smiththebat Год назад +1

      So true. Modern blades and Tour style CB’s play sooo much more forgiving than they look! AND the CB’s these days feel and play like MB’s!

    • @DeeMak712
      @DeeMak712 2 месяца назад

      The only real big difference is distance forgiveness. If you hit a blade 1/2” fat vs the same lofted game improvement, the blade will go shorter

  • @will.m1110
    @will.m1110 2 месяца назад

    Imo forgiveness is in sole width. A wider sole DOES NOT suit every delivery type.
    And your average person will have a better chance of moving strike up the face, were it belongs, while using a narrow sole.

  • @mrbrianc
    @mrbrianc Год назад

    I was in a big box store that had one of the Ricky Fowler blades available to hit , and I was honestly surprised how well I hit the 7 iron. It definitely felt like I was concentrating a bit more to make a controlled swing, but overall I hit them better than some of the other more forgiving irons.

  • @fuethengmoua
    @fuethengmoua 6 месяцев назад +2

    Play the MB. A smaller face will make you better. Leave forgiveness behind.

  • @lloydwilliams4368
    @lloydwilliams4368 Год назад

    I've got some very old blades to sell to buy the Takomo 101. See if Play It Again will give me any money for MacCregor Tourney Custom 1972 and Wilson Staff Fluid blades. Too old?

  • @isaackimberley7772
    @isaackimberley7772 Год назад

    Out of interest what shaft were you using?

  • @ericzellershow
    @ericzellershow Год назад

    Is this mobile club maker guy?

  • @commanderchair
    @commanderchair Год назад

    that MB looks really nice but its a shame how strong lofted they are for players clubs. I deloft my irons a lot so looking for a 7 iron more around 34/35. 32 is just too low and I don't want to take off anymore offset because they already don't have much offset on them (as they rightly should). They tick all the other boxes though!

    • @nathaniverson6828
      @nathaniverson6828 Год назад

      I'm actually usually the same loft wise and I now currently game blended set of the 659mb/tc/cb irons. They don't seem strong at all even though the numbers say otherwise. They just have a bit more ball speed but the peak height is higher than my weaker lofted blades and same spin rates. I throw serious darts with my sub70s. And they just have a bit more carry which for me is a great thing because I can carry one more wedge and no 4 iron. You should demo them you might be very pleasantly suprised as I was!

    • @commanderchair
      @commanderchair Год назад

      @@nathaniverson6828 Is there a way could post a pic of what the short iron MB's look behind a ball at address? cant seem to find great pics online. Glad they work well for you, still trying to see what that topline looks when behind a ball

    • @nathaniverson6828
      @nathaniverson6828 Год назад

      @@commanderchair I can try. I'll have to find a second... the pw is a really good looking and un a wedge snob for looks.

    • @commanderchair
      @commanderchair Год назад

      @@nathaniverson6828 okay man appreciate it

    • @nathaniverson6828
      @nathaniverson6828 Год назад

      @@commanderchair not sure how to post a picture as a reply? Doesn't seem to be letting me?

  • @thisjustanother
    @thisjustanother Год назад +1

    im currently using the mizuno MP4s. any of the sub70s have a look compared to the MP4s? i love the small looking heads on clubs the most

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад

      The MB would be closest but the Sub 70 have a bit more geometric look vs the MP 4 that looks a bit more rounded.

  • @luzzionz
    @luzzionz Год назад

    dude, relax the right elbow! enjoy the channel

  • @babatundeososanya5769
    @babatundeososanya5769 Год назад

    The blades will disappoint you on the course . They'll dig in

    • @EFG2
      @EFG2  Год назад

      Going to find out because I'm about to build a set for this season.

    • @seanpeacock5595
      @seanpeacock5595 Год назад

      Depends on the course.