Iron Tarkus this game is a masterpiece. It is one of the best games ever made. An actual company that cares about making good games. It has so many details
Could this have meant that after travelling to Oolacile in the past you could have also traveled to New Londo before the flooding? That might have been an intention at one point and they scaled it back.
@@xmasdemon6243 no what OP is getting at is what if the plan for the DLC was to go to Oolacile as well as New Londo before it was flooded, so the chosen undead would time travel to the same area in a different era.
@@xmasdemon6243 What's the timeline? I know Oolacile was ages ago, enough time for a forest to appear where it once stood. New Londo is only after Anor Londo which is as old as Lordran.
So the Abyss in dark souls map terms is roughly at the bottom of the valley of the drakes? This means it is not as deep as Ash Lake since you the bottom of the valley is about on par with the bottom of blightown. Interesting because I would have thought the Abyss would be the deepest thing in the Dark Souls Universe but it is also possible it was just a space issue. it also seems that the Abyss is a very real and set place in the Dark Souls Universe instead of just being a general nebulous concept that can appear anywhere. It is unclear how Kaathe appeared in the first place but from the lore this line seems likely. 1. the fire starts to fade over 1000 years ago, Kingseeker Frampt says it has been a thousand years since anyone retrieved the lordvessel, Gwyn sacrificed himself before that and Dusk even roughly mentions Oolacile was a place over 1000 years ago. 2. Gwyn was around for the dark rising in Oolacile. We know this because New Londo didn't exist in the dlc, very evidently and Gwyn gifted pieces of his souls to the leaders of New Londo. 3. Manus is exhumed under Kaathe's direction to cause the spread of the abyss. I think Kaathe also did this because Manus chose to sleep and didn't want to be the Dark Lord, we also found out in DS3 that Manus chose not to live in the Ringed City so he was clearly very powerful if the other gods couldn't make him. 4. Manus goes crazy and the abyss spreads. Oolacile is consumed. Artorias definitely goes to the fight the spread of the abyss. Gwyn doesn't seem too concerned with the details because he lets Artorias die and Gough become imprisoned so Gwyn seems to fight wars of attrition. Gough confirms this because he says the tactics in the great war were for every 1 dragon 60 dead knights was acceptable. 5. The chosen undead ends the abyss because we are human and already part of the dark. Kaathe doesn't seem to interfere and Oolacile is forgotten. 6. New Londo is built, it is the first undead city we know of but is actually the second to the Ringed City. Gwyn gives the leaders a piece of his lord soul. 7. New Londo develops cultural ties with Carim seen in having the bite rings, carim weaponry and statues and rings of velka. New londo falls to the dark with the help of Kaathe and the darkwraiths are born and start using red eye orbs to steal humanity causing further hollowing etc etc. We know the truth of Artorias is concealed by Elizabeth except for the Cat knowing the truth because she was there. Ingward has been told a legend and says it was very long ago. All that is confirmed is 1. Artorias traversed the abyss, which he did it just consumed him, and 2. he fought darkwraiths which are only defined as those incited by Kaathe. The Dark hand does say there were ancient darkwraiths who were even better at draining humanity so this could mean there were darkwraiths in Oolacile. 8. New Londo is flooded and the same area where the Abyss came from in Oolacile is now concealed again. While the map shows it isn't the exact same location it is very close and suggests Manus left an imprint of the Abyss left over. 9. It is hard to tell if Gwyn was around for the fall of New Londo or if he gave his soul to the kings and then left. this version personally makes more sense since Gwyn would not have tolerated darkwraiths just outside the gates to anor Londo which are near New Londo but destroyed. Gwyn was notably a tyrant in places and would have just obliberated New Londo, I think the destruction of all the entrances to Anor Londo spare the batwing demons was done by a much weaker god like Gwyndolin. just a theory anyway - it does suggest Manus left a physical place for the Abyss to grow from.
Wilf Nelson You find Beatrice's corpse in the valley of drakes after defeating the four kings and it's implied she fought them so the Abyss being under the valley seems to make sense.
I thought New Londo was flooded to suppress the Darkwraiths? It would make sense if Gwyn were around after New Londo fell to the Dark and ordered the flood.
I'm not convinced. Gwyn was God and killed off the stone dragons we can't even touch in game and as we learnt from the ringed city he was able to seal off the power of the dark soul in the citizens of the ringed city with a flaming ring. He could have just wiped new londo off the face of the planet and started again. The only source of the dark we never see Gwyn able to deal with is Manus and that was because Manus was a Lord (kinda makes you wonder what kind of person Gwyn was if he sent his knights to fight something he knew he couldn't beat from having seen Manus fight in the Great War (as we also know the pygmies did)). I think Gwyn was gone by this point, darkness has started to descend and Kaathe was having his second go with undead that Gwyn could no longer supervise having lost Manus as the ideal Dark Lord (in fact Manus seems to have been quite peaceful prior to his pendant being broken). Ingward says he and the other seers toiled over the decision, he makes it sound like it was just them. Ingward would probably have mentioned if Gwyn had come down from his Mount Olympus like kingdom and declared something.
Wait so is the implication that the walled off gate across the bridge from New Londo was Oolacile? Like, even if it's not a literal gate we see the other side of in the DLC, it's supposed to be an area that is still abyssal because it was jacked up during the Manus incident?
No. Darkroot was supposed to be Oolacile. From didn't have time to develop it enough, so they replaced it with a simplificated version of the same map and decided to make Olacile a DLC. Proof of the DLC being developed early on is that the PS3 release version from 2011 has unused assets for the DLC bosses. Oolacile was originally going to be in Darkroot's place. Short lore: New Londo was a city of prosperity ruled by 4 kings which were once very sane as evidenced by the tales in miracles (miracle icons have drawings, and in some miracle, don't remember which, Gwyn is seen giving a lord soul to 4 noble kings). It was even named after Anor Londo, the city of the Gods. Then the Abyss spread from the Chasm of the Abyss, through Oolacile, and reached New Londo. It corrupted the inhabitants of the city, turning the men into embodiments of evil (Darkwraiths) and consuming the 4 kings. New Londo crumbled down from it's high might. The Abyss was spreading, corrupting everything in it's path, and New Londo was flooded to stop both the Abyss and the terrible creatures it had given birth to. Darkwraiths survived, trapped below the masses of water, but the people of the city drowned, leaving behind mountains of corpses. Some of the women of the ruins of the once bright city came back as haunting ghosts and banshees, and many drowned turned into a collective amalgamy of souls in pain.
Salted the Dream is the only thing like Demon's Souls about the game, everything else especially map design is closer to DaS3 than any other Souls game
Neat, it's hard to see how its connected just looking at pictures of the mapping data. I know you've done a flythrough of the Kiln already, but could you do one of the Firelink Altar chamber? It's so dark and there are trees in the way that it is hard to see details. I'm also curious if the door on the other side of the broken bridge would lead anywhere.
New Londo, Oolacile, and The Ringed City. It would not be far fetched to think that all those three cities of men were allied and linked by the dark against the gods. Oolacile sent a messenger to the Ringed City, to its piggy royalty, while owning the dark soul and the progenitor of man, MANus, while New Londo and it's four kings was convinced by KAATHE to use the life-drain and join the cause of freeing men from their shackles. Everything makes sense now...
You can invade people by the front of undead parish (out in the woods on dark root before you go into the place with titanite demon) and you’ll invade at the bonfire before the manticore boss fight in the dlc
@@jesusestebansantillantalam5207 I'm dead serious. I'll have to find the clip of it happening but it was on my ps4 on dark souls remastered. I dunno if that has anything to do with it but it for sure happened i'm not making it up. Later in the day when i get back on it i'll look into uploading the clip
Oolacile was originally going to be in Darkroot Garden's place but they changed it at the end of the development process and quickly copied the map making a few changes to it. You can also see Darkroot Basin is clearly Kalameet's arena.
Source? Oolacile and Darkroot Garden are vastly different in exploration and progression. Swapping them would vastly change the game's progression, and something they would have thought of beforehand.
@@littlemoth4956 I'm not saying they swapped them. Darkroot probably didn't even exist back then. FROM was running out of time while developing Dark Souls, and they didn't have much time to work on some areas, namely Izalith. Darkroot/Oolacile was the one they couldn't even finish. So they cut a lot of it out of the game and made instead a much simpler version of the forest part of Oolacile. You can see the forest is nearly identical in both maps, with the same shape, cliffs, bridges... Even the elevated part where the great felines are in Darkroot is in place in the DLC forest. The Hydra's arena is the exact same shape as Kalameet's arena, only extending a bit further. The DLC Boss' models can be found as unused assets in the PS3 release version from 2011, which means they'd developed these bosses before releasing the game, but they couldn't make it into the game because they were unfinished. The textures don't render properly on them, and their movesets were probably lacking. This proves they'd intended to put Oolacile in the game, but didn't have time to finish it.
@@k54maclosky97 You should generally avoid delaying games. Especially lesser-known studios, like FROM was at the time, can't really afford to let their audience down too much. Besides, delaying games has become more common in recent years, but back in the 2000s it was much more rare and the expectation was that all games were to be delivered before the deadline (and that mindset carried on to the beginning of the 2010s).
So...you're telling me that the Abyss in the DlC and the Abyss in New Londo are in the same spot? So New Londo was built upon the ruins of Oolacile Township? So Gwyn still didn't link the flame when Oolacile was destroyed? ( Because he was alive when New Londo was at his peak). And also, that the elevator that links Valley of Drakes and DarkRoot Basin is actually the same elevator that links the Chasm of the Abyss with the yard in front of the Colosseum?
Sorry, but at 1:01 the 2 Abyss are so close their looked almost in the same spot. Also, I must admit I'm not sure I understood the elevator thing. Are those elevators in the same spot?
While that gateway would seem to pop out in midair at the Chasm of the Abyss, and the Chasm appears to have been dug/excavated just for reaching Manus' seal per Kaathe's instructions in the first place, this is still a really neat video. Based on this footage, the Chasm of the Abyss spans beneath the Valley of Drakes, or is otherwise meant to exist in the cliff face that's visible near the bridge from everywhere but the Valley of Drakes itself.
O_O Stop it. Stop blowing my mind! This vid is 4 years old but I'm shocked I never found out about it. Might have been mentioned in one of Vaati's vids or something though, been a while since I watched the old lore series he made. A neat little tie-in between the two nations though, also makes sense that the kings would fall to the abyss, considering they erected their capital on the grave of Manus and the heart of the ancient abyss. Wait.... now that I think about this why the *HELL* did Gwyn allow the humans he ruled over to build a town down there!? That's like asking for trouble. Oolacile messed with the abyss and got wiped off the map. Did Gwyn just really want that bit of Real Estate so badly?
yeah I didn't realize that the dlc was the forest in the past until I saw that the area with the big open flower field before you see kalameet the first time is the part where those cats are in the forest
A lot of people are assuming New Londo was built over Oolacile's ruins, but I don't think that makes sense. Why couldn't they have built it before Oolacile fell to the Abyss? It would make no sense for Gwyn to decide to build a city of prosperity named after the home of Gods next to a spreading Abyss that's bloating people grotesquely, corrupting them and turning them into monsters. It's so much more logical to think that the Abyss started spreading after New Londo was founded.
I hope you were referring to the stuff behind the breathing noise and not he breathing noise - you can hear that breathing noise many places. The other sounds... that was interesting.
so uuh the valley of the drakes is below new londo which is across the valley near to olacile? and the valley of the drakes was that cave near where Manus resides?
And this is why you snuff out the embers in DS3. Gwyn did not want humanity to rule over themselves without him watching their every move and when they did build their societies if they didn't benefit him and his age of fire then they were to be snuffed out before they had a chance to be more than what they should have been. Keeping us in line effectively, to be honest Gwyn do be scary as fuck when you look at all of the things that have happened in Dark Souls.
Could somebody explain to me what he's trying to say? I don't get it... Is he saying that the valley of the drakes bridge is the broken pillar in chasm of the abyss?
He's trying to show us that when you look over the side of the bridge you should see the pillar heading down to Manus. The pillar leads us below the city of New Londo, which happens to be above Manus' boss room.
So it seems that Darkroot garden/basin are the forests of Oolacile, the bridge coming from New Londo in Valley of Drakes leads to that caved in path which would lead directly to Oolacile Township, and New Londo was constructed within the caverns you traverse on the way to Manus. Is that right? So after Manus was destroyed the Abyss receded leaving the surrounding land rehabitable and the Valley of Drakes was once part of the Chasm of the Abyss?
where did the abyss break out first then? new londo or oolacile? this would also mean both had to happen around the same time if artorias fought in both those places... wait.. the abyss only happened because manus was messed with, meaning oolacile happened first, meaning the lore's fucked....
Just checked, the regular sword said he fought Darkwraiths so it could be assumed it was in New Londo indeed, but maybe there were Darkwraiths in Oolacile too and he just obliterated them before we got there? Man idk
The events of Oolacile and New Londo are not related, they both have to do with darkness but it was not the same thing. There were no darkrwaiths in Oolacile and no bloathead people in New Londo.
Yeah but how would you place it chronologically? Did both happen at the same time roughly? Did Artorias fight in New Londo and then looked over Oolacile and was all "not this **** again!"?
I used the DarkSoulsMapViewer but I don't remember how I did that, since it was more than 1 year ago, I remember that it was one button that changed between them.
the DLC takes place in the past tho right? so if those areas were connected it wouldnt make sense. If theres ever going to be a ds1 remake it would be cool if you could go there but in present time
That explains a lot of stuff. I thought that New Londo pygmiss spread the abyss to Ocelotte or at least the opposite they used darkness from it. Anyway it explains a lot since the Four Kings were there too.
Would you ever consider making a tutorial explaining how to use a free cam or the developers mode on Dark Souls? I've been looking around and I finally found a cheat table that hadn't been removed but I can't get it to work properly. I've managed to get in a freecam state but I can't for the life of me work out how to move it around. I love this game and there's so many things that I want to try and explore and I'm sure there are lots of other people that want to also. Thanks.
How free cam works depend on the specific table, it may be easier with a mouse+keyboard. I did a few debug tutorials: ruclips.net/video/hcUx46lfTRU/видео.html ruclips.net/video/_9thvVzIZzo/видео.html there is also a wiki darksoulsdebug.wikidot.com
That doesn't really matter. They explained in DS3 that as cycles go on and on, lands collide, forming new shapes. Some of them ended as amalgams, like those areas from DS1 and DS2 that we can encounter one after another, most notably Firelink Shrine from DS1(I think it was DLC), others merged with other lands forming Lothric, like Anor Londo. Farron Keep is most likely indeed Oolacile and New Londo. Too many references. Darkaraiths, abyss monsters same as in Oolacile abyss, corpse of Elizabeth, items related to Dusk and Abyss Watchers are IMO enough to prove it.
@@queenofdarkness3341 Most consoles are just going to have more power and that's it. All they'd likely do is do another remaster and make the textures better, if they even bother to do that. As a game, Dark Souls 1 is fine. Don't fix what isn't broke. Otherwise, just make another Souls game, there is far more potential.
Hey Crest just incase you didn't know but this is kinda crazy imgur.com/a/ULbBU9i i posted it in a comment thread i started but you can invade into the before manticore boss fight from the dark root basin
I just realized that Gwyn was alive in the DLC and maybe the other gods too. If only Dark Souls was real. I'd just go and inform him of the Curse, Chaos, Seath, the 4 Kings. I'd be so cool. Sooooo coooool.....zzzzz
subzero _ Sure and neither did Gwyn apparently. Except when people say Gwyn did nothing wrong they aren't memeing like either 90% of the Griffith people despite the fact that Gwyn and Griffith do the exact same thing.
![Oolacile is Darkroot in the past [Dark Souls DLC time-travel shown side-by-side]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/0-DmxvELBE0/mqdefault.jpg)
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Some of the ambient sounds in Dark Souls really is just horrifying if you think about it too much.
Is that why you jumped to your death?
+Rage Angel Ya got me
True that ,it was genious they didnt use music save in the boss fights.The ambience in this game is nerve wrecking and dreadful
Iron Tarkus this game is a masterpiece. It is one of the best games ever made. An actual company that cares about making good games. It has so many details
yesterday i was playing the dlc without listening to music and with ambient sounds a bit louder. that shit scary
Even after almost a decade, this game still manages to both surprise and amaze me.
「Dai San no Bakudan」 Its been 6 years not nearly a decade
@@Romb772 4 or less, let it rest. 5 or more, let it soar. They rounded up. 6 is nearly 10, rounding up. Shut up bro
@@Romb772
_Now_ it's been nearly a decade. 😉
This comment was way too far fetched
@@M.A.R.S. 6 is not nearly 10 you fucking goldfish.
so not only did they flood new londo, they caved in the only remaining access to the abyss and Oolacile. huh.
Sad but True And you’re both probably similar to Miyazaki in that respect! I don’t think anything in this game was an accident.
duuude now i think about sumting ':'((((
That sound at the end. This game man. This game...
+Kokosnuss That sound constantly plays from your character at all times. Just him breathing.
+Kokosnuss probably the only solid clue on what happened to Oolacile in the original game, but they forgot to mention it was part of it
Thats artorias breathing
@@stuffystuff1661 No, it's your character breathing. Start a new game and go into a silnce place with full volume :)
@@BioTheHuman Oh man I don't even remember this comment lmao
new londo ambience at the end
Could this have meant that after travelling to Oolacile in the past you could have also traveled to New Londo before the flooding? That might have been an intention at one point and they scaled it back.
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Im probably wrong on this but I dont think new londo was around at the time.
@@xmasdemon6243 no what OP is getting at is what if the plan for the DLC was to go to Oolacile as well as New Londo before it was flooded, so the chosen undead would time travel to the same area in a different era.
@@xmasdemon6243 in other words you are 100% correct that New Londo and Oolacile didn't coexist
@@xmasdemon6243 What's the timeline? I know Oolacile was ages ago, enough time for a forest to appear where it once stood. New Londo is only after Anor Londo which is as old as Lordran.
So the Abyss in dark souls map terms is roughly at the bottom of the valley of the drakes? This means it is not as deep as Ash Lake since you the bottom of the valley is about on par with the bottom of blightown. Interesting because I would have thought the Abyss would be the deepest thing in the Dark Souls Universe but it is also possible it was just a space issue.
it also seems that the Abyss is a very real and set place in the Dark Souls Universe instead of just being a general nebulous concept that can appear anywhere. It is unclear how Kaathe appeared in the first place but from the lore this line seems likely.
1. the fire starts to fade over 1000 years ago, Kingseeker Frampt says it has been a thousand years since anyone retrieved the lordvessel, Gwyn sacrificed himself before that and Dusk even roughly mentions Oolacile was a place over 1000 years ago.
2. Gwyn was around for the dark rising in Oolacile. We know this because New Londo didn't exist in the dlc, very evidently and Gwyn gifted pieces of his souls to the leaders of New Londo.
3. Manus is exhumed under Kaathe's direction to cause the spread of the abyss. I think Kaathe also did this because Manus chose to sleep and didn't want to be the Dark Lord, we also found out in DS3 that Manus chose not to live in the Ringed City so he was clearly very powerful if the other gods couldn't make him.
4. Manus goes crazy and the abyss spreads. Oolacile is consumed. Artorias definitely goes to the fight the spread of the abyss. Gwyn doesn't seem too concerned with the details because he lets Artorias die and Gough become imprisoned so Gwyn seems to fight wars of attrition. Gough confirms this because he says the tactics in the great war were for every 1 dragon 60 dead knights was acceptable.
5. The chosen undead ends the abyss because we are human and already part of the dark. Kaathe doesn't seem to interfere and Oolacile is forgotten.
6. New Londo is built, it is the first undead city we know of but is actually the second to the Ringed City. Gwyn gives the leaders a piece of his lord soul.
7. New Londo develops cultural ties with Carim seen in having the bite rings, carim weaponry and statues and rings of velka. New londo falls to the dark with the help of Kaathe and the darkwraiths are born and start using red eye orbs to steal humanity causing further hollowing etc etc. We know the truth of Artorias is concealed by Elizabeth except for the Cat knowing the truth because she was there. Ingward has been told a legend and says it was very long ago. All that is confirmed is 1. Artorias traversed the abyss, which he did it just consumed him, and 2. he fought darkwraiths which are only defined as those incited by Kaathe. The Dark hand does say there were ancient darkwraiths who were even better at draining humanity so this could mean there were darkwraiths in Oolacile.
8. New Londo is flooded and the same area where the Abyss came from in Oolacile is now concealed again. While the map shows it isn't the exact same location it is very close and suggests Manus left an imprint of the Abyss left over.
9. It is hard to tell if Gwyn was around for the fall of New Londo or if he gave his soul to the kings and then left. this version personally makes more sense since Gwyn would not have tolerated darkwraiths just outside the gates to anor Londo which are near New Londo but destroyed. Gwyn was notably a tyrant in places and would have just obliberated New Londo, I think the destruction of all the entrances to Anor Londo spare the batwing demons was done by a much weaker god like Gwyndolin.
just a theory anyway - it does suggest Manus left a physical place for the Abyss to grow from.
Wilf Nelson You find Beatrice's corpse in the valley of drakes after defeating the four kings and it's implied she fought them so the Abyss being under the valley seems to make sense.
yeah that makes sense
I thought New Londo was flooded to suppress the Darkwraiths? It would make sense if Gwyn were around after New Londo fell to the Dark and ordered the flood.
Yes, in fact you can reach the abyss by jumping at the bottom of the valley of drakes.
I'm not convinced. Gwyn was God and killed off the stone dragons we can't even touch in game and as we learnt from the ringed city he was able to seal off the power of the dark soul in the citizens of the ringed city with a flaming ring. He could have just wiped new londo off the face of the planet and started again. The only source of the dark we never see Gwyn able to deal with is Manus and that was because Manus was a Lord (kinda makes you wonder what kind of person Gwyn was if he sent his knights to fight something he knew he couldn't beat from having seen Manus fight in the Great War (as we also know the pygmies did)).
I think Gwyn was gone by this point, darkness has started to descend and Kaathe was having his second go with undead that Gwyn could no longer supervise having lost Manus as the ideal Dark Lord (in fact Manus seems to have been quite peaceful prior to his pendant being broken).
Ingward says he and the other seers toiled over the decision, he makes it sound like it was just them. Ingward would probably have mentioned if Gwyn had come down from his Mount Olympus like kingdom and declared something.
I do not know what to say, my mind just exploded after seeing this, but everything makes sense now.
I love you for loving this game to the point you love it. Every single video of yours makes me love this game even more
Wait so is the implication that the walled off gate across the bridge from New Londo was Oolacile? Like, even if it's not a literal gate we see the other side of in the DLC, it's supposed to be an area that is still abyssal because it was jacked up during the Manus incident?
No. Darkroot was supposed to be Oolacile. From didn't have time to develop it enough, so they replaced it with a simplificated version of the same map and decided to make Olacile a DLC. Proof of the DLC being developed early on is that the PS3 release version from 2011 has unused assets for the DLC bosses. Oolacile was originally going to be in Darkroot's place.
Short lore:
New Londo was a city of prosperity ruled by 4 kings which were once very sane as evidenced by the tales in miracles (miracle icons have drawings, and in some miracle, don't remember which, Gwyn is seen giving a lord soul to 4 noble kings). It was even named after Anor Londo, the city of the Gods. Then the Abyss spread from the Chasm of the Abyss, through Oolacile, and reached New Londo. It corrupted the inhabitants of the city, turning the men into embodiments of evil (Darkwraiths) and consuming the 4 kings. New Londo crumbled down from it's high might. The Abyss was spreading, corrupting everything in it's path, and New Londo was flooded to stop both the Abyss and the terrible creatures it had given birth to. Darkwraiths survived, trapped below the masses of water, but the people of the city drowned, leaving behind mountains of corpses. Some of the women of the ruins of the once bright city came back as haunting ghosts and banshees, and many drowned turned into a collective amalgamy of souls in pain.
@@comradecatbug5289 its a shame how much greater dark souls 1 could've been with more development time
This is how you make a map. Not these giant empty sandboxes for hardcore walking simulators.
Lets see if FromSoft can successfully marry them in Elden Ring.
Bloodborne is very similarly constructed except its a seriesof world environment linked together by a central place, the dream alot like demons souls
Haha yes Dark Soul gud other game bad
Salted the Dream is the only thing like Demon's Souls about the game, everything else especially map design is closer to DaS3 than any other Souls game
Tell that to Kojima
Nice find, dude.
What's crazy is I was just theorizing this the other day. The strongest connection between the two is also Beatrice. She has an oolacile catalyst
In few words, New Londo is suppose to be the way to go trought to Oolacile at the abyss even Oolacile was the Darkrooth Garden in the past.
I'm actually impressed at how good i remember the map with its paths from a game i played one year back by just looking at a grey mess
Neat, it's hard to see how its connected just looking at pictures of the mapping data.
I know you've done a flythrough of the Kiln already, but could you do one of the Firelink Altar chamber? It's so dark and there are trees in the way that it is hard to see details. I'm also curious if the door on the other side of the broken bridge would lead anywhere.
GuardianOwl i'll see it
New Londo, Oolacile, and The Ringed City. It would not be far fetched to think that all those three cities of men were allied and linked by the dark against the gods. Oolacile sent a messenger to the Ringed City, to its piggy royalty, while owning the dark soul and the progenitor of man, MANus, while New Londo and it's four kings was convinced by KAATHE to use the life-drain and join the cause of freeing men from their shackles. Everything makes sense now...
The sound at the end plays when your in front of artorias’s area, don’t know why it plays there tho
You can invade people by the front of undead parish (out in the woods on dark root before you go into the place with titanite demon) and you’ll invade at the bonfire before the manticore boss fight in the dlc
I hope this is real
Explain yourself
@@jesusestebansantillantalam5207 I'm dead serious. I'll have to find the clip of it happening but it was on my ps4 on dark souls remastered. I dunno if that has anything to do with it but it for sure happened i'm not making it up. Later in the day when i get back on it i'll look into uploading the clip
@@milgos5269 imgur.com/a/ULbBU9i here i uploaded it
@@rainbowgg___ wtf, that's crazy jajajaja. If it's something intended by the developers Is a really nice atention to detail
I wish we could get a sitting with whole team creating the game and just ask, and ask... and ask.
Oolacile was originally going to be in Darkroot Garden's place but they changed it at the end of the development process and quickly copied the map making a few changes to it. You can also see Darkroot Basin is clearly Kalameet's arena.
Source?
Oolacile and Darkroot Garden are vastly different in exploration and progression. Swapping them would vastly change the game's progression, and something they would have thought of beforehand.
@@littlemoth4956 I'm not saying they swapped them. Darkroot probably didn't even exist back then. FROM was running out of time while developing Dark Souls, and they didn't have much time to work on some areas, namely Izalith. Darkroot/Oolacile was the one they couldn't even finish. So they cut a lot of it out of the game and made instead a much simpler version of the forest part of Oolacile. You can see the forest is nearly identical in both maps, with the same shape, cliffs, bridges... Even the elevated part where the great felines are in Darkroot is in place in the DLC forest. The Hydra's arena is the exact same shape as Kalameet's arena, only extending a bit further.
The DLC Boss' models can be found as unused assets in the PS3 release version from 2011, which means they'd developed these bosses before releasing the game, but they couldn't make it into the game because they were unfinished. The textures don't render properly on them, and their movesets were probably lacking. This proves they'd intended to put Oolacile in the game, but didn't have time to finish it.
@@comradecatbug5289 why they dont delay that game?
@@k54maclosky97 You should generally avoid delaying games. Especially lesser-known studios, like FROM was at the time, can't really afford to let their audience down too much. Besides, delaying games has become more common in recent years, but back in the 2000s it was much more rare and the expectation was that all games were to be delivered before the deadline (and that mindset carried on to the beginning of the 2010s).
@@comradecatbug5289That doesn't prove that Oolacile is cut/unfinished content, only that AotA was in development when the game launched.
So...you're telling me that the Abyss in the DlC and the Abyss in New Londo are in the same spot? So New Londo was built upon the ruins of Oolacile Township? So Gwyn still didn't link the flame when Oolacile was destroyed? ( Because he was alive when New Londo was at his peak). And also, that the elevator that links Valley of Drakes and DarkRoot Basin is actually the same elevator that links the Chasm of the Abyss with the yard in front of the Colosseum?
No New Londo was just really close to Oolacile, you didn't understood the video.
Sorry, but at 1:01 the 2 Abyss are so close their looked almost in the same spot. Also, I must admit I'm not sure I understood the elevator thing. Are those elevators in the same spot?
The abyss is below it, it's close to it but not exactly on the same spot.
New Londo is just across the valley from Olacile
@@CrestfallenYT well maybe then don’t make your videos so fucking obscure man? LMFAO
I was expecting to see Link from Zelda but this is interesting too
oolacile was the darkroot place long before
The end sound is actually just your own character breathing, ive heard it all the time when in quit areas like the darkroot basin
Listen closely, there also voices constituting an ambient theme.
@@cauthrim4298 actually yeah youre right...i wonder...
While that gateway would seem to pop out in midair at the Chasm of the Abyss, and the Chasm appears to have been dug/excavated just for reaching Manus' seal per Kaathe's instructions in the first place, this is still a really neat video. Based on this footage, the Chasm of the Abyss spans beneath the Valley of Drakes, or is otherwise meant to exist in the cliff face that's visible near the bridge from everywhere but the Valley of Drakes itself.
O_O
Stop it. Stop blowing my mind! This vid is 4 years old but I'm shocked I never found out about it. Might have been mentioned in one of Vaati's vids or something though, been a while since I watched the old lore series he made. A neat little tie-in between the two nations though, also makes sense that the kings would fall to the abyss, considering they erected their capital on the grave of Manus and the heart of the ancient abyss.
Wait.... now that I think about this why the *HELL* did Gwyn allow the humans he ruled over to build a town down there!? That's like asking for trouble. Oolacile messed with the abyss and got wiped off the map. Did Gwyn just really want that bit of Real Estate so badly?
yeah I didn't realize that the dlc was the forest in the past until I saw that the area with the big open flower field before you see kalameet the first time is the part where those cats are in the forest
I was living in Oolacile 2 decades ago... You can Even imagine the decandence.
A lot of people are assuming New Londo was built over Oolacile's ruins, but I don't think that makes sense. Why couldn't they have built it before Oolacile fell to the Abyss? It would make no sense for Gwyn to decide to build a city of prosperity named after the home of Gods next to a spreading Abyss that's bloating people grotesquely, corrupting them and turning them into monsters. It's so much more logical to think that the Abyss started spreading after New Londo was founded.
THe angle you swap to confused me around 0:28 do you mean angled from that exact view or looking into the valley?
Damn son where'd you find this
The community for this game is awesome.
I hope you were referring to the stuff behind the breathing noise and not he breathing noise - you can hear that breathing noise many places. The other sounds... that was interesting.
Manus is the Father of The Abyss. You require the art of abysswalking to fight The Four Kings. Same arena: the abyss.
but if u can jump down the chasm of the abys without arty ring then why need that too travel the abys?
@@k54maclosky97 because there's rocks to stand on? IDK that's a good point
@@k54maclosky97 the manus fight is not that deep
Dude I love your channel
Hmm, makes sense considering that New Londo with its Abyss isn't far from this place.
Yeah cool vid and all but how did you get solaire's set🧐🧐🧐🧐
Goes to show how much detail was put into this game. The abyss is almost in the exact same location
The sound in the end is because you are in human form and usually you can her the character breathing or hear voices wispering
Hiena
It's the same soundbyte as the breathing you hear in front of Artorias' fog gate.
It's not the breathing he's talking about. It's the ambiance that you also hear when you're in New Londo.
so uuh the valley of the drakes is below new londo which is across the valley near to olacile? and the valley of the drakes was that cave near where Manus resides?
And this is why you snuff out the embers in DS3. Gwyn did not want humanity to rule over themselves without him watching their every move and when they did build their societies if they didn't benefit him and his age of fire then they were to be snuffed out before they had a chance to be more than what they should have been. Keeping us in line effectively, to be honest Gwyn do be scary as fuck when you look at all of the things that have happened in Dark Souls.
What program did you use?
I wanna do some stuff of my own.
Your channel is amazing, are you going to analyze other games like this in the future?
Could somebody explain to me what he's trying to say? I don't get it... Is he saying that the valley of the drakes bridge is the broken pillar in chasm of the abyss?
He's trying to show us that when you look over the side of the bridge you should see the pillar heading down to Manus. The pillar leads us below the city of New Londo, which happens to be above Manus' boss room.
Manuel Cubilete thanks I also got confused
So it seems that Darkroot garden/basin are the forests of Oolacile, the bridge coming from New Londo in Valley of Drakes leads to that caved in path which would lead directly to Oolacile Township, and New Londo was constructed within the caverns you traverse on the way to Manus.
Is that right?
So after Manus was destroyed the Abyss receded leaving the surrounding land rehabitable and the Valley of Drakes was once part of the Chasm of the Abyss?
where did the abyss break out first then? new londo or oolacile? this would also mean both had to happen around the same time if artorias fought in both those places... wait.. the abyss only happened because manus was messed with, meaning oolacile happened first, meaning the lore's fucked....
Artorias never fought in New Londo, did he?
+LuizKun one his swords said he did iirc
Just checked, the regular sword said he fought Darkwraiths so it could be assumed it was in New Londo indeed, but maybe there were Darkwraiths in Oolacile too and he just obliterated them before we got there? Man idk
The events of Oolacile and New Londo are not related, they both have to do with darkness but it was not the same thing. There were no darkrwaiths in Oolacile and no bloathead people in New Londo.
Yeah but how would you place it chronologically? Did both happen at the same time roughly? Did Artorias fight in New Londo and then looked over Oolacile and was all "not this **** again!"?
could you create a boss vs boss fight? it would be interesting to know.
yes.
www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/837
Can you tell me which map viewer have you used? Those I can find can only show both darkroot and oolacile separately.
I used the DarkSoulsMapViewer but I don't remember how I did that, since it was more than 1 year ago, I remember that it was one button that changed between them.
Some paths are not meant to be tread .... in dark souls, it’s all of them
Oolicile was in my opinion the best dlc in the souls series
Wait, this is literally...Deepest Lore!!
The *D E E P E S T* Lore
@@greenhatzelda8273 deepest plot hole
Mindblow.
So new Londo was made over ollacile which was the buried over and made over by fire link
So how does this path line up with DS3 I wonder.
the DLC takes place in the past tho right? so if those areas were connected it wouldnt make sense. If theres ever going to be a ds1 remake it would be cool if you could go there but in present time
The DLC pretty much takes place at the same location as the main game. Most parts of the Royal Woods are literally the same as Darkrood garden.
That explains a lot of stuff. I thought that New Londo pygmiss spread the abyss to Ocelotte or at least the opposite they used darkness from it. Anyway it explains a lot since the Four Kings were there too.
the miraculous boy !!!
Kid, wouldn't you be the one who discovered America?
Hmm so New Londo was built over the remmants of Oolacile, is very interesting, because The tomb of Manus and the Kings are very near
No they were just near each other.
no
Name of the ost pls?
Pretty sure that is Artorias' boss theme
Would you ever consider making a tutorial explaining how to use a free cam or the developers mode on Dark Souls? I've been looking around and I finally found a cheat table that hadn't been removed but I can't get it to work properly. I've managed to get in a freecam state but I can't for the life of me work out how to move it around. I love this game and there's so many things that I want to try and explore and I'm sure there are lots of other people that want to also. Thanks.
How free cam works depend on the specific table, it may be easier with a mouse+keyboard. I did a few debug tutorials:
ruclips.net/video/hcUx46lfTRU/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/_9thvVzIZzo/видео.html
there is also a wiki
darksoulsdebug.wikidot.com
I am at that spot you are in the end of the video at valley of drakes but I cannot run all the way up the hill.
Nick P he uses a program to make himself fly
Farron Keep is the same place too?
It’s in Lothric, this is Lordran
That doesn't really matter. They explained in DS3 that as cycles go on and on, lands collide, forming new shapes.
Some of them ended as amalgams, like those areas from DS1 and DS2 that we can encounter one after another, most notably Firelink Shrine from DS1(I think it was DLC), others merged with other lands forming Lothric, like Anor Londo.
Farron Keep is most likely indeed Oolacile and New Londo. Too many references.
Darkaraiths, abyss monsters same as in Oolacile abyss, corpse of Elizabeth, items related to Dusk and Abyss Watchers are IMO enough to prove it.
i really hope they remake ds1 in the future so we get all these epic details and imagine they added arena mode in that colleseum that would be epic
Why? The game is fine as is. The remaster was most all it needed, aside from an update to the inventory UI.
Ravelord Nito because we are going on different platforms with different potentials
Ravelord Nito the remaster isnt bad but its kinda pointless
@@queenofdarkness3341 Most consoles are just going to have more power and that's it. All they'd likely do is do another remaster and make the textures better, if they even bother to do that. As a game, Dark Souls 1 is fine. Don't fix what isn't broke. Otherwise, just make another Souls game, there is far more potential.
Ravelord Nito havent you seen demon souls remake? all im asking is for that treatment on dark souls
Why the fuck didn't I clue in that New Londo is Oolacile?!
They are connected, but not the same.
Mind blown
Podes enseñar que programa usas y como lo haces. Tenes idea de modificar rom de neo geo
Bruh
What's the music
Fighting artorias
This damn game
VaatiVidya is probably jealous of this discovery.
So, what you're saying is that New Londo was The Chasm of the Abyss?
wtf does that means mason?
Hey Crest just incase you didn't know but this is kinda crazy imgur.com/a/ULbBU9i i posted it in a comment thread i started but you can invade into the before manticore boss fight from the dark root basin
That is weird, I guess it's a bug that happens because the DLC map was added later i.imgur.com/1RYRMst.jpg
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Maps of dark souls 2：Parkour！
I have the exact same program
Nossa
I just realized that Gwyn was alive in the DLC and maybe the other gods too. If only Dark Souls was real. I'd just go and inform him of the Curse, Chaos, Seath, the 4 Kings. I'd be so cool. Sooooo coooool.....zzzzz
Matthew Coyle griffith did nothing wrong8)
subzero _ Sure and neither did Gwyn apparently. Except when people say Gwyn did nothing wrong they aren't memeing like either 90% of the Griffith people despite the fact that Gwyn and Griffith do the exact same thing.