Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal?

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @JethroSky
    @JethroSky Год назад +10

    Wow, I love that bro! "Good artists create Great artists emulate" very well said. A lot of people are taking the "great artists steal" literally now and teaching the younger generation it's okay to steal & I think that's so messed up...

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад +1

      Learning from the past is important, but following your own intuition is paramount. Thank you 🙏🏾

  • @Mu3azOsman
    @Mu3azOsman 2 года назад +5

    getting inspired is key, stealing or "copying" one for one is the issue some fall into.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +1

      completely agree with that. trying to be somebody else is the wrong goal, but being inspired like you said is the key!

    • @stephanmede3660
      @stephanmede3660 6 месяцев назад

      That’s true

  • @jayteknica1175
    @jayteknica1175 2 года назад +8

    💯 Straight copying isn’t something anyone really appreciates but weaving elements from other artist that you connect with into your work is a great way to expand your own work and find real meaning and joy in it.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +1

      fully agree. we can be inspired by anything and everything around us, why limit it? thanks for watching!

    • @DPaulLeDesma
      @DPaulLeDesma Год назад +1

      wasnt the quote, good artists Borrow great artists Steal?

  • @ThatMinority
    @ThatMinority 2 года назад +6

    I’m smiling already ! And I’m not even past the first minute.
    Firstly, love the music and how it acts as a guide. Really keeps me on my toes and eases the switch from concept to concept.
    Also the content surrounding Van Gogh. Was very well done and the transition to the art parents concept was very clean!
    I also love how you used your own art parent, Steve, as an example. I think it would be very helpful for people new to the concept.
    Lastly, you didn’t repeat anything that was unnecessary, this was an extremely lean video. Great job D!

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +1

      thank you bro that means a lot! we’ve come a long way since we first started learning all of this some years back. greatly appreciate it 🙏🏾

  • @dopaminecloud
    @dopaminecloud 3 месяца назад

    Our attitudes towards creative ownership are tied to an exploitative market, and we end up conflating the evil of the latter to be something that's evil about creativity. When ideas are supposedly owned by individuals and their efforts, then creativity involves stealing. It is how the brain learns.

  • @mikemoloney
    @mikemoloney 2 года назад +3

    Seeing Van Gogh’s recreations side by side with the original is so cool. Amazing video and editing Doriyan!

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +2

      thank you man! once i first saw them for myself it was really inspiring. this one was fun to make 🙏🏾

  • @leedeleon2745
    @leedeleon2745 2 года назад +4

    A+ presentation, Doriyan. Breaking down art philosophy is a gift of yours and more people need to see this.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад

      means a lot bro thank you! this one was fun to put together.

  • @philkline6593
    @philkline6593 2 года назад +1

    the endeavor into the history behind the topic was great! i was upset it ended.

  • @garyrobinson3
    @garyrobinson3 2 года назад +5

    This is an excellent, inspiring, and beautiful presentation! I’ve been watching your videos for a while and I really like the direction that you’ve gone in with this video. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад

      much love gary! i enjoyed putting this one together 🙏🏾

  • @winslow_j
    @winslow_j 2 года назад +1

    Awesome video man!! Love the way you tied all the topics together, and the broll you used. Your production quality has gone way up! Agree with the topic entirely as well. In the very beginning, you have to find a style you like from others, implement it, and then make it your own. Super important part of the process 🙏🏻

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад

      thank you so much man! you’ve been watching since the beginning and i appreciate that.
      like you said, it’s important to find these things and make them our own!

  • @Mindartcreativity
    @Mindartcreativity 2 года назад +1

    I like the concept of „art parents“. I notice it in my music/songs more so than in my photography, though. Great video as always. Very pleasant to watch and listen.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад

      interesting to read that, how you see it in one craft more than the other. thank you for watching!

  • @JayGrapherTh
    @JayGrapherTh 2 года назад +2

    your last quote "good artist create, great artist emulate" was just perfect. and just how you explain how or generally want to do to improve and create work is just great

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +1

      thank you i’m glad you enjoyed it! happy shooting

  • @sgoseofnbakansks
    @sgoseofnbakansks 3 месяца назад +1

    great - feedback: put a de-esser on your audio, that will make sure your "s"-sses wont cut as thorugh sharply

  • @louisng5790
    @louisng5790 2 года назад +2

    Kept my full attention the entire time! Great insight on the topic of copying within art (and the process of leading into similar, but unique results). Also enjoy this style of video with examples/broll combined, felt extremely additive and intuitive and only compelled me to watch more. Great video!

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад

      thank you for watching man! i’m glad you enjoyed it. we shouldn’t be hesitant to be inspired 🙏🏾

  • @Jonathan-hu3lk
    @Jonathan-hu3lk 2 года назад +1

    Love this. And talking about art in front of one of my all time favourite paintings which has inspired some of my street photography

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +1

      glad you enjoyed it! i always think to myself that hopper would’ve been an excellent street photographer

  • @totfosk
    @totfosk 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great stuff. Thank you for the advices!!!

  • @ReadySteadyExcel
    @ReadySteadyExcel 11 месяцев назад

    Interesting video. Not what I was looking for but stuck around as I was intrigued.

  • @haroldsmith7872
    @haroldsmith7872 2 года назад +2

    Great presentation! I really enjoyed it

  • @garymorrow9324
    @garymorrow9324 2 года назад +1

    Great view of the truth. I try to use the photographic wisdom from looking at other works and take those things to help me be a better photographer. The moment I snap. photo...that is what I saw and wanted to capture. Sure I may use the tools available to us to crop, position, lighten shades, etc., but it's my vision of what I like and saw..even if its in my head after the picture is taken. How many of us have shot pictures of doors, statues, a backlit bicyclist. or staircase..maybe even the same ones as others? Is that copying or capturing what we see...at that moment. I value inspiration of others and appreciate their gifts that have helped me. Spot on analysis Doriyan🔥💌🙏

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +1

      absolutely! inspiration is all around us. your vision, especially in photography, is uniquely yours, and the gifts others leave behind are for the taking 🙏🏾
      thanks for watching!

  • @gianni_4
    @gianni_4 9 месяцев назад

    I love that quote and the idea behind it but basically end of the day when you apply this to everyday life iyou just want to take it in and internalize it and make it your own plain and simple.

  • @mgyoungphotography7753
    @mgyoungphotography7753 2 года назад +1

    Brother I really enjoyed this one I’ve been completely inspired by what you said and how well you articulated this simple yet profound fact! This is the first time heard the term ‘’Art Parents” and going forward I will reverse engineer their style into my creative process. I believe strongly I’ve already been doing this but now I’ll have a name for it. Love your content!!!

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +1

      thank you bro! we will all grow from here 🙏🏾 i appreciate your support

  • @foreignparticle1320
    @foreignparticle1320 2 года назад +2

    Man I love you. Every video, superb.

  • @iamstevebent
    @iamstevebent Год назад +1

    This is great.
    My perspective:
    1. your rewrite of the quote is more USEFUL to the artist as it helps with HOW
    2. Pablo Picasso did not misspeak. Someone achieves something, an emotion, let’s say “ambiguity”. Da Vinci emulated that (to your point). But what I think Picasso refers to is that he STOLE that. At that time, and beyond… is there a better portrait of ambiguity than the Mona Lisa. He stole that. As in “he stole that base”. He owns it now. This is an outcome.
    Yours is a process which is helpful to the artist. For most artists trying to be the fastest (the fastest rapper in the world probably doesn’t OWN that base), the most adaptable (does the most chameleonic actor in the world own THAT space?) etc etc.
    By steal… this is what I think he means. But to your point… trying to be known for that… probably is NOT the route to achieving it.
    The route to achieving it is by all the things you’ve put so eloquently.
    Just my 2p.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  Год назад

      Thank you! I appreciate your contribution to the discussion. It sounds like we are both “pro” artist 🙏🏾

  • @ki001
    @ki001 2 года назад +1

    Brilliant talk…

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад

      thank you i’m glad you enjoyed it 🙏🏾

  • @monkeywrenchedphotography1876
    @monkeywrenchedphotography1876 2 года назад +1

    Very well said, thank you!

  • @Enrique-the-photographer
    @Enrique-the-photographer 2 года назад +1

    Great subject and very well presented.

  • @SweaterSwagg
    @SweaterSwagg 6 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome video 🔥

  • @simonpetergreen
    @simonpetergreen 2 года назад +1

    art parents... I like that nice work

  • @farahlawalharris
    @farahlawalharris Год назад +1

    This was amazing!

  • @stizanley3987
    @stizanley3987 Год назад +1

    Great video, couldn't agree more

  • @GoodPeeps_
    @GoodPeeps_ 9 месяцев назад +1

    great video, deserves more!

  • @mikemoloney
    @mikemoloney 2 года назад +1

    Inspiring video!!

  • @longrider9551
    @longrider9551 2 года назад +5

    Just glad I beat D Rosa here 🤣

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +1

      ahhh my boy is slacking! 😂

    • @longrider9551
      @longrider9551 2 года назад +1

      @@doriyancoleman lol I try to keep him on his toes, I just turned 60 and its my calling to remind the younguns "you don't know everything just yet". I have learned the most in my youth by being reminded of humility.✌

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +1

      we can certainly use that reminder sometimes, thanks for being supportive for the both of us!

    • @DeeRosa
      @DeeRosa 2 года назад +3

      DAMNIT

    • @longrider9551
      @longrider9551 2 года назад +1

      @@doriyancoleman your both good kids and I enjoy your insights, check out a channel called Straight Out Of Camera, he did a video about photographers studying painters. Bresson was a painter from his early days

  • @karltondormen5500
    @karltondormen5500 2 года назад +1

    Amazing!!!

  • @colinwhite4710
    @colinwhite4710 2 года назад +2

    the Jimmy Neutron clips 😤

  • @MonerLaine
    @MonerLaine 4 месяца назад

    I've always thought that it was a load of crap, in my mind art is a gigantic library from which we can all borrow whatever we want and then everything we do will be borrowed to built upon whether it's thru emulation or deconstruction.
    The only way to steal would be to lock it up in a way in which no one else can tocuh it anymore, akin to what disney does with it's properties and everything they've touched.
    That's not only anti ethical but also against the spirit of creation by itself.
    But hey people like to quote picasso, usually without knowing anything about picasso. If they went and quote some of the other things picasso said they would probably go to jail kek

    • @dopaminecloud
      @dopaminecloud 3 месяца назад

      if you borrow, you have to return it, if you steal you keep it
      so far the visual imagery
      none of it makes sense in regards to ideas other than the truth that you take them and the usage of steal implies that doing so is part of creativity whether you can get permission or not, which i agree with

  • @jakefrosher
    @jakefrosher Год назад +1

    🙂

  • @MarioFlogar
    @MarioFlogar 10 месяцев назад

    good video

  • @zakariyeawnur2558
    @zakariyeawnur2558 2 года назад +2

    Picasso was stealing African art, so it makes sense he said that - it was guilt conscience talking.

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад

      it’s up for interpretation 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @dunkkid23
    @dunkkid23 2 года назад +1

    This is the one

    • @doriyancoleman
      @doriyancoleman  2 года назад +1

      this is officially the “true supporter” video 😂

    • @dunkkid23
      @dunkkid23 2 года назад

      @@doriyancoleman bro 😂😂😂