UPDATE: Just ordered mine(4/1/22), can't wait to get it. 1k isnt that bad considering it comes with 2 12.0 batteries which retail for over $500 by themselves plus a dual rapid charger which retails for $120 and I wanted them anyway to use with the rest of my Milwaukee powertools. Received it 4/6/22 and mowed 2 days later, and WOW what an absolute beast. It just powers though everything you throw at it. Being a new home owner I used my neighbors EGO 2 months ago) which is the last time I mowed waiting for this thing to come in). I didn't wanna be THAT guy that borrows things lol so I patiently waited and with the rain we've been getting in Tampa FL my grass definitely grew a lot. His EGO shut off on me 4 times when I used it and the grass was nowhere near the height it was when I mowed with the Milwaukee which didnt struggle in the least, it just automatically kicks on that high lift mode and eats. I finished with 2 bars left on the batteries so instead of using my wide array of M18 batteries I decided to say F it and used the ones in the mower, one of them for my trimmer and the other for my leaf blower. None of which ran out of juice by the time I finished up. Highly recommend 👌🏼
As a mowing contractor here are my thoughts; if you rely on your push mower for a large percentage of your yards, then this probably isnt for you. However, for a contractor like myself. I cant wait to get my hands on one of these. I use my ride on mowers for 90% of my yards and have very few push mowing clients.. and the ones that do. i can still usually get away with using my ride on in the front. A push mower for me is a necessary evil. I HATE having to need a push mower, but i'll always need one on my trailer. Unfortuantely theres always going to be cases where the gates not wide enough, you need to get up steps or some other annoying reason why its necessary for you to have a push mower. This is light enough that i can carry it through someones house if they dont have a side gate (city jobs). I don't need to do maintenance on it, i can flip it upside down when it clogs up with grass without worrying about oil going through the engine and i can fold it up out of the way on my trailer or trailerless setup for those looking to optimise their trailer space. This is a niche mower for the pro that barely uses a push mower but still needs one. All the other battery mowers are junk for pros because they dont have the torque that a petrol mower has. If this thing has the same power as my commercial honda 216 buffalo and can last atleast 40 minutes in overgrown grass, then it will 100% be replacing my petrol mower.
Wow, what a great explanation of the cost/benefit for a mower like this. While it may seem far-reaching for some, it totally makes sense for someone like yourself. We haven't compared it head to head with a Honda or Vanguard, but the power is very impressive, as you can see in the video. Thanks for sharing.
I completely agree. Adding onto that if you are just a home owner whos heavily or even somewhat invested in the m18 platform as many of us are and own dual tower lights, miter/table/chain/circular saws, and vacuums this mower is a no Brainer. Especially if you own Milwaukees blower and OPE already. It solves a huge problem no other OPE can. The batteries are not just for the mower or OPE making them ridiculously priced and render the entire mower scrap metal in the case of a battery failure. Which will be less bc many of us maintain our m18 and m12 batteries year round. I'm so pumped to finally no longer have to store any gas and be able to stand the mower up against a wall. It's already so convenient to use.
The best thing about the rear side discharge is that you can get in tight where a side discharge might hinder a turn or going by a fence, as well as preventing buildup from discharging into thick or high grass
I disagree, I've had a rear side discharge since 1998 on my John Deere mower and its a pain in the ass, grass blows out of wrong side, 99% of mowers it blows out the right side. So u use left side for edge cuts, now u have to go around everything backwards and it still blows alot of stuff in beds and walks 2 passes over, in thick grass with any Slight dew on it it clumbs and clogs. I hated this rear side discharge since 1998! And Its really holding me back from buying this mower
I can’t think of a better Battery powered tool system then Milwaukee. They have the largest selection of Durable, professional grade cordless Tools Out there.
Impressive power, no doubt. As someone with a small urban lawn, I really want to switch to an electric mower soon. But at $1k, this is WAY more than I'm willing to spend given my needs. Hopefully this is just the start for Milwaukee OPE. I'd like a less expensive model without self-propel, no LEDs, etc. Just a basic push mower for home use that would suit the needs of 75% of homeowners.
would be awesome to have that. maybe they can give it the treatment the gave the non-fuel M18 brushless string trimmer. With that tool they trimmed down the fancy features while still giving you a great string trimmer
We understand your position and what you're looking for, but we don't think Milwaukee is headed in that direction. They've positioned their OPE offerings for the Professional, so we don't think they're going to make a stripped down version. Thanks for watching and sharing.
In Europe it is 1500 Euro what is like 1650 USD as a kit. Its just ridiculous. I get a decent Honda on gas that will hold up the next 20 years and an landroid together for the same price
I own a ton of Milwaukee tools and was waiting for this, but 12 twelve amp batteries is alot. I assume thats why this is $1000 plus. Bought the ego mower instead half the money and works great.
I have multiple Milwaukee power heads and multiple attachments that I use, and I love them. Additionally, I have multiple Milwaukee hand tools, so I'm heavily invested in the M18 platform. As a lawn care contractor, these are my thoughts on the mower. I have a Honda 21" mower, but I have no yards I use it for entirely. Even on my small yards, I run my 36". Mainly I use my 21" to mow the perimeter of a yard, to get in to tight corners where my 36" or 48" won't get. I don't use my 21" all day, but I do run it for more than an hour. If I want to ensure I'll be able to use this mower as a replacement for my Honda, I need extra batteries. An extra set would give me up to 2 hours, and that's not enough, so I'm looking at 2 extra sets. Those batteries run $249 each. So if I buy this mower for $1099, and 4 extra batteries for $996, I could replace my Honda for $2,095, but only if I don't plan to go over 3 hours of use. There's lots of contractors driving around with a truck full of Milwaukee tools. Sell us a heavy duty charger with a built in power converter that I can wire directly into my trucks electrical system, even if it requires a dual battery setup. Yeah, I know, I can buy a power converter. But I don't know what I'm buying, and I'm guessing some cheapie on Amazon isn't going to be sufficient. It would be nice to know I'm buying something designed by Milwaukee, for Milwaukee batteries. It's a lot easier to justify this kind of expense if there's a way to charge batteries on the go, rather than spending thousands just to have spare batteries rolling around in the truck.
$249 for 12.0 is full retail price but often I see them on offer up or Facebook marketplace for 130-150 dollars new. Usually people that get them with a kit but don’t need so many batteries. Anytime I need a new tool, I usually buy the kit and resell the charger and batteries. More bang for my buck 😉
I wonder what the street cost will be after some time on the market? Pricey, yep. But of course Milwaukee is going to bring a very serious product out. My Cub Cadet push mower was at 500 and it continues to cost me every time I use it. Where this mower shines is for the person who is already invested in Milwaukee tools and has the batteries already. Once again Milwaukee does not disappoint with its latest offering. Thanks again for another great video.
Nice presentation. I bought mine a couple weeks ago. As always Milwaukee Exceeded my expectations. Only complaint no place to put my beer. But sitting on my shop stool (that has casters) it pulls me across the room pretty quick. Might try connecting my packout platform to it with a chair on it lol. At a $1000.00 with 2 - 12 amp batteries & dual rapid chargers makes it a great deal plus if batteries need charging can walk in shop grab 2 fully charged keep mowing.
Guess I need to save up $1,000 cause I’m sick of my cheap old gas mower which is a PAIN every time I need to mow. Never starts up without issue, always dies. I also reckon this mower would make a chore a lot more enjoyable. Especially considering the lights and lower noise level, I could beat the heat and mow in the evening. Damn I want this mower but it’s gonna take some budgeting. Amazing review as always Tim, we love the content and seeing you push this mower with heavy and dense growth.
Buy the mower and offer some local lawn cutting services! If you have weekends available, try to book a couple lawns for maybe a month. Should help recover some of the investment. Plus, you get to use the mower even more then!
This was an EXCELLENT review. It covered everything someone would need to know about this mower in a no nonsense not overly drooling over how great it is sort of way. Thanks!
I love Milwaukee. Have the hedge trimer, blower and string trimer. This lawnmower looks good but for 1100 is to expensive. I went and picked up a Greenworks pro 60v 21inch last week on sale for 499. Mowed my yard (takes an hour) and only used one battery! I think the Milwaukee should be around 699 or 799.
We do understand your point. The $1K-plus price tag definitely exceeds the limit for many. Greenworks makes some great mowers and tools. They have a very large spread of models to choose from. Glad your Greenworks is working well for you. Thanks for watching.
Nice review. Looks like a nice mower, but I think Honda’s ability to change between mulch and rear discharge without having to retrieve a chute or plug is much better. Hopefully in time the street price will also come down. Looks like a good option if you are already invested in M18 platform.
Good review! What everyone does is show these mowers cutting crazy weed ridden crap 2 feet tall and saying wow! I want to see real life use, thick grass being maintained weekly. My lawn will never look like that weedy mess.
Looks way better than my EGO that gets bogged down by my Zeon Zoysia. It is getting better after several months but still boggs down in the thicker section. Cutting at the 2nd lowest setting, which isn't very low.
Being able to push it easy without self propelled is nice, I will never forget when my 96 year old grandpas grass was overgrown the city contacted him to get it cut. (He had hurt his foot) I came over and he showed me where his mower was and it was such a struggle to push that thing. I remember thinking how is this 90+ year old man pushing this heavy heavy heavy mower. Wasn’t till I was almost finished that I noticed some other levers. It was self propelled and I had never used one before, plus it was like a 90 degree day out too. Will never forget that 😂
My understanding is that for height of cut measurements on rotary mowers one must measure at the front wheels. This is because there is an intentional pitch (about a quarter inch delta although like many things in life a bell curve applies 1/8" to 1/2" depending on design) between the front and rear blade height. The rear of the mower always being higher, since that is where the bag output is. Air is able to flow into the rear deck area, and not at the front - so a suction / vacuum is created and this inflates the porous mesh rear bag, and pulls clippings into it (lower pressure / resistance). If the front of the mower blade to wheel earth contact is one inch, then you are cutting the lawn at one inch. The M18 is likely 1inch or "what it says in the tin" as to height of cut, although I have not taken a tape measure to the very front of the blade under deck while at setting one. :)
This was very helpful! I recently had back surgery, and can’t do pull starts, do to twisting my back. I already have a multitude of Milwaukee tools, some of which use the 12 battery. So. I appreciate the number for tool only model, as I don’t need batteries or chargers.
Wow you said all the right words to get a heart from him did you watch the video would you spend $1,000 on this lawn mower that we all know the runtime is not going to be 3/4 of an acre it's going to be less than half especially on a 90° plus Midwestern Day cutting grass much thicker than what he was cutting gripe you could see through the lawn maybe you should go back and rewatch it oh and go ahead and fire back at me I'm got broad shoulders I'm good.
Unstoppable? Several YT videos showing severe run problems. Lots of 1 star reviews regarding bad 12aH batteries supplied with this mower. Yes, it's a beast when it runs. But if it doesn't run, it's an $1100+ paperweight. I just bought the Makita XML08 with (4) 5.0aH batteries and a dual bay rapid charger for $699 plus free shipping at HD. I saved $400 and got the mower most often reviewed as the #2 mower to Milwaukee's #1. I'd rather have the $400 than a #1 mower with problems. Thanks for this review video!
Ugh. I need this, but I'm stuck on Dewalt for all my 20v tools. The Dewalt mower version of this as is the folding trimmer is weak sauce in thick/tall grass. It does regular mowing just fine. At twice the price, it is hard to justify the switch. All the same battery mowers are definitely the way to go. I'll never go back to gas. (Milwaukee you could steal me away pretty easily though if you added in a line of Power wheels toys for the kids that use your batteries. "Honey, I swear these are for the kids for Christmas!")
I went to the Milwaukee website and if you search for the 12.0 M18 batteries you'll find the majority of bad reviews. I just came from Farm and Fleet and it's a beautiful machine but those expensive batteries are flawed for sure. What is the warranty process for batteries? Many are saying they only have 3 bars after a short time of ownership, some say they cannot get a hold of anyone to address their issues. One of the reviewers said he bought a cell balancer which he used on a battery that would not charge and suddenly he could charge it. I guess cell imbalance causes problems, interesting.
Seems to be really nice and powerful. Just like you said price sucks maybe if the sold tool only I would consider. I have 2 electric mowers had several gas so far my 2 electric mowers have had more power than my gas. They are 80v and 56v. I wound think this mower running 2 12s would be a beast.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but how invested into the M18 line is Milwaukee? In terms of longevity. It would be a real pain to buy into the M18 ecosystem and then they make the batteries obsolete, and the tools are useless. I understand this is a potential issue with all the major brands, except for Ryobi? They've stated that whatever batteries they make in the future will be compatible with current tools. That's a big selling point for someone who wants to keep their tools for 10+ years. Cheers!
That's a great question, and Milwaukee has proven that they're dedicated to the M18 platform. Thus, when they need it, they just include a dual-battery setup as in this mower. They launched the MX platform for larger equipment like demolition saws, large jackhammers, and even jobsite lighting; however, that's really not interfering with the 18V (M18) lineup. I'm definitely not a spokesperson for the company, but we do try to keep a pulse on what's happening. I think we're safe with the M18 line for quite some time. Thanks for watching.
I'm a fan of Torque Test Channel, where they showed off Milwauk's flagship impact wrench. Considering it's a dual handle, 1" anvil, 1400+ ft-lb, 2+ foot long *MONSTER* and it only uses a _SINGLE_ battery pack, I'd say they're comfortably invested in their current system
They need to add a couple of things: 1. An eco button that only runs the blade at a lower speed to save on battery life and get a longer run time. Better yet, maybe even a dial for various blade speeds like the self-propel dial. 2. 4 battery bays so we can use say 5.0 or 6.0 batteries that we already own. (like the Makita XML08) 3. Non-proprietary blades, otherwise, they get to control the price unless 3rd parties make blades 4. A cheaper price tag 😉 I like these 18Vx2 electric mowers but think they still need to work on them a little more.
I was wondering the exact same thing. Is it the commercial grade Toro model #22282 60v mower? That one is over $1,800 with the two battery kit. It's about the only other battery mower I've seen reviews on RUclips that literally does everything a gas mower would do without any compromises.
@@DIY-fz9cn Yeah, that was what I was thinking. I bought the 22282 and it spins a beefy blade and not a thin flexible one like every other cordless mower. I returned the ego xp and bought the Toro.
Thanks for asking. I was beginning to wonder if this was a sponsored video and they weren't allowed to mention the competitor that could be "just as if not more powerful."
I'd say that it's actually closer to $600.00 I mean if you bought it separately. Because the batteries are $200.00 each. So yes $1000.00 total but you get those two batteries to use in any Milwaukee tools. Which I have 16 of.
You are correct, there are several items that you can buy for the same amount of money. However, there is still a niche market that needs the power and features that the Milwaukee offers, albeit not so much in the home market. Thanks for watching and sharing.
Even though I'm the milwaukee platform, I still would of bought toro or ego, they just have a big headstart on MIlwuakee and they know mowers. I bought my toto 60v for 325 on sale, yep you read that right vs 1000? Before then I had an ego but I just wanted self propelled and to try the toro . The ego was great just that the batts died evey 3-4 years, and they aren't cheap. The toro self pace just rocks.
@shoptoolreviews please do a head to head vs EGO selectcut. I switched last year from a Honda HRX217 to the EGO and was very disappointed with the cut quality in comparison to the Honda. Other big complaints include too slow of a self-propel speed and the need to use almost two complete 7.5ah batteries to cut less than a half acre of yards. If this Milwaukee significantly outperforms the EGO, I'm buying. But if not, then the thousand dollars is much better spent on another Honda. Thanks in advance
@@Shoptoolreviews Just picked up this M18 mower. No comparison to my EGO Selectcut XP. The 'Waukee is a beast! Much lower cut height, super quick ramp up, great power in thick grass, and fast enough propell speed to pop wheelies if you aren't careful!
They could better justify the price for the kit if they also announced some fancy new batteries with more run time. The 12.0s are great but they’re been out almost 4 years. Not enough juice for high power equipment like this.
Great review. I’m due for a new mower and for a company like Milwaukee getting into this space it really seems like they used my Kobalt 80volt mower as a sample. I think nearly 5 years ago I paid $600 and that came with two 80volts (only one inserted at a time) batteries but get this…2.5 AH!! From the metal deck, to the way you raise the cutting height. All very similar to my 5 year old mower. So, I need to decide if it’s worth the jump over the Top of the Line eGo. I do like the metal deck but shocked it doesn’t have a dual blade.
80v 2.5ah is probably similar to a 20v 6ah battery, but those use 18650 cells and the Milwaukee HO batteries use a 21700 cell which is a better battery overall. Its all the same, its just the cell quality on how they rate them. They use more cheaper cells to call it a 80v but in fact you still have a 20v battery with low ah rating. A 18v Milwaukee battery is essentially a 20v battery when u add up 5 of them in a row. Do they call it a 18v at 3.7v dead or 20v 4.2v charged 🤔 🤷♂️
In fairness, the price is about average in the UK for a decent mower! I spent the same on a Mountfield sp 505r about 18 months ago and it's been an absolute nightmare, with aftersales service none existent. At the moment, wishing I'd bought anything else! Unfortunately everyone in the UK wants the classic stripes and as far as I know, there are no battery roller mowers on the market!
My question is for us that are already deeply invested in the Milwaukee M18 and M12 tools. I myself over the last month had replaced every power tools int my garage with M18 and M12 cordless power tools. Love the products. So I have a total of 10 M18 high output/High Demand batteries with 4 of them being 12Ah, 2 8Ah, 2 6Ah and 2 3Ah. I also have 2 rapid and 1 super changer. So do you know when and if they will be selling the 2823-20 (tool only) and the cost? I really want this unit only because I am so invested into the M18 products now, But don't need the charger and batteries have enough of them on hand as you can tell. Thanks for all your help in advance!
One of those things, of yuh has the Milwaukee batteries already it’s a no brainer. But if you want to invest in a full ope lineup snowblowers and all, ego is the way to go
You mention there’ll be a bare tool option in the beginning of the video when you were talking part numbers. What’s the price for that? I didn’t hear it when talking cost.
I’ll stick with the Ryobi crosscut, which comes with two batteries for $549. I was told by a Milwaukee rep that the same group makes Ryobi and Milwaukee tools.
I had terrible cut quality with the 3 most recent ego mowers I have had including the newest select cut. They all leave so many stragglers and I hate the self propelled and cheap plastic deck. They just don't have enough lift.
Still can't put my lawnboy 2 stroke away :p think I'll wait a couple of years for the electric mowers surpass the vintage 2 stroke mowers (whichs surpassed the 4 stroke mowers years ago)
So you can buy an Ego self propelled 21” select cut for $499 with the same power and runtime. Then add the best blower on the market and a weedwacker and still be cheaper then this Milwaukee mower.
You are correct, you can get the Select cut for $499 for the mower only. Select Cut with the battery/charger is $699, and the Select Cut XP with battery/charger is $799. We agree, hands down, EGO has the best blowers at this time. Thanks for watching.
This is a commercial grade mower, not your homeowner model hence the quality, tech, and performance difference. If you watch any of the head to head videos it wins hands down for commercial applications.
@@Shoptoolreviews Which battery are you using I’m assuming you tested with the AK30 For me I found this battery amazing for my Cordless mower I can do my lawn at least six times And I have a good size lawn
Biggest draw back is the minimum cutting height and the proceeding increments of 13mm, not enough options at the low end. Ideally 20mm then 26, 32, 38 then who cares.
Here's to you Mr. Perfect-lawnmower-operator ("...real men of genius.."🎶 playing in the background), without you we would have nothing to strive for. Lol. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I dont like the rear discharge, my John Deere from 1998 has that same rear side discharge and it comes out the wrong side. When u are so use to using the left side of deck to do edge passes and not blowing everything in beds or walks its really frustrating. And it clumps and clogs a lot in the tube if the lawn is thick and has any dew. So this is kinda holding me back from buying it. I really hated that rear side discharge since 1998 lol
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I was between the Ego and the Milwaukee. Ended up oredering the Milwaukee. This thing is a beast...
Awesome, glad to hear you like it. Thanks for watching.
Same. Still like yours?
UPDATE:
Just ordered mine(4/1/22), can't wait to get it.
1k isnt that bad considering it comes with 2 12.0 batteries which retail for over $500 by themselves plus a dual rapid charger which retails for $120 and I wanted them anyway to use with the rest of my Milwaukee powertools.
Received it 4/6/22 and mowed 2 days later, and WOW what an absolute beast. It just powers though everything you throw at it.
Being a new home owner I used my neighbors EGO 2 months ago) which is the last time I mowed waiting for this thing to come in). I didn't wanna be THAT guy that borrows things lol so I patiently waited and with the rain we've been getting in Tampa FL my grass definitely grew a lot.
His EGO shut off on me 4 times when I used it and the grass was nowhere near the height it was when I mowed with the Milwaukee which didnt struggle in the least, it just automatically kicks on that high lift mode and eats.
I finished with 2 bars left on the batteries so instead of using my wide array of M18 batteries I decided to say F it and used the ones in the mower, one of them for my trimmer and the other for my leaf blower.
None of which ran out of juice by the time I finished up.
Highly recommend 👌🏼
How about some pictures of your yard to compare or see it on action like this video. Thanks!
You’re the first person to mention that you can push it without the self-propelled. Thanks
That's one of my pet peeves with most of the other sefl-propelled units. Thanks for watching.
As a mowing contractor here are my thoughts; if you rely on your push mower for a large percentage of your yards, then this probably isnt for you. However, for a contractor like myself. I cant wait to get my hands on one of these. I use my ride on mowers for 90% of my yards and have very few push mowing clients.. and the ones that do. i can still usually get away with using my ride on in the front.
A push mower for me is a necessary evil. I HATE having to need a push mower, but i'll always need one on my trailer. Unfortuantely theres always going to be cases where the gates not wide enough, you need to get up steps or some other annoying reason why its necessary for you to have a push mower. This is light enough that i can carry it through someones house if they dont have a side gate (city jobs). I don't need to do maintenance on it, i can flip it upside down when it clogs up with grass without worrying about oil going through the engine and i can fold it up out of the way on my trailer or trailerless setup for those looking to optimise their trailer space.
This is a niche mower for the pro that barely uses a push mower but still needs one. All the other battery mowers are junk for pros because they dont have the torque that a petrol mower has. If this thing has the same power as my commercial honda 216 buffalo and can last atleast 40 minutes in overgrown grass, then it will 100% be replacing my petrol mower.
Wow, what a great explanation of the cost/benefit for a mower like this. While it may seem far-reaching for some, it totally makes sense for someone like yourself. We haven't compared it head to head with a Honda or Vanguard, but the power is very impressive, as you can see in the video. Thanks for sharing.
I completely agree. Adding onto that if you are just a home owner whos heavily or even somewhat invested in the m18 platform as many of us are and own dual tower lights, miter/table/chain/circular saws, and vacuums this mower is a no Brainer. Especially if you own Milwaukees blower and OPE already. It solves a huge problem no other OPE can. The batteries are not just for the mower or OPE making them ridiculously priced and render the entire mower scrap metal in the case of a battery failure. Which will be less bc many of us maintain our m18 and m12 batteries year round. I'm so pumped to finally no longer have to store any gas and be able to stand the mower up against a wall. It's already so convenient to use.
@@Shoptoolreviews Please do a head to head with a Honda HRC-216 !!!!
Also, you can start earlier and finish later without neighborhoods HOA on your ass about noise which is definitely a plus too
@@pinballdan - Anything over 60 minutes, Honda clearly wins as the Milwaukee will be dead.
The best thing about the rear side discharge is that you can get in tight where a side discharge might hinder a turn or going by a fence, as well as preventing buildup from discharging into thick or high grass
I disagree, I've had a rear side discharge since 1998 on my John Deere mower and its a pain in the ass, grass blows out of wrong side, 99% of mowers it blows out the right side. So u use left side for edge cuts, now u have to go around everything backwards and it still blows alot of stuff in beds and walks 2 passes over, in thick grass with any Slight dew on it it clumbs and clogs. I hated this rear side discharge since 1998! And Its really holding me back from buying this mower
Its incredible how far power tools have come! Great review as always! Thanks!
Yes, it really is. Especially for something like mowers that are a very heavy drain on batteries. Thanks for watching!
I can’t think of a better Battery powered tool system then Milwaukee. They have the largest selection of Durable, professional grade cordless Tools Out there.
I know I only buy milwaukee
Impressive power, no doubt. As someone with a small urban lawn, I really want to switch to an electric mower soon. But at $1k, this is WAY more than I'm willing to spend given my needs. Hopefully this is just the start for Milwaukee OPE. I'd like a less expensive model without self-propel, no LEDs, etc. Just a basic push mower for home use that would suit the needs of 75% of homeowners.
would be awesome to have that. maybe they can give it the treatment the gave the non-fuel M18 brushless string trimmer. With that tool they trimmed down the fancy features while still giving you a great string trimmer
We understand your position and what you're looking for, but we don't think Milwaukee is headed in that direction. They've positioned their OPE offerings for the Professional, so we don't think they're going to make a stripped down version. Thanks for watching and sharing.
@@Shoptoolreviews that’s what milwaukee does! Tools for the professional at prices that only make sense for a professional lol
In Europe it is 1500 Euro what is like 1650 USD as a kit. Its just ridiculous. I get a decent Honda on gas that will hold up the next 20 years and an landroid together for the same price
Look to harbor freight. I've got their Atlas mower for around 350. 80v brushless
Channels like this are a hidden gem, how don't you have more subscribers, thanks for another great review
I appreciate that! I think RUclips hates us. lol. Who knows. Thanks for watching.
I’ve seen a lot of reviews on this mower and this by far is the best one I’ve seen up to date 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Wow, thanks! We very much appreciate that. Thanks for watching.
My mower gave out and I already have a bunch of there tools so I went ahead and got the mower I can’t wait till it comes in this Friday
I own a ton of Milwaukee tools and was waiting for this, but 12 twelve amp batteries is alot. I assume thats why this is $1000 plus. Bought the ego mower instead half the money and works great.
That's where I'm headed. Ergo or Greenworks.
I have multiple Milwaukee power heads and multiple attachments that I use, and I love them. Additionally, I have multiple Milwaukee hand tools, so I'm heavily invested in the M18 platform. As a lawn care contractor, these are my thoughts on the mower.
I have a Honda 21" mower, but I have no yards I use it for entirely. Even on my small yards, I run my 36". Mainly I use my 21" to mow the perimeter of a yard, to get in to tight corners where my 36" or 48" won't get. I don't use my 21" all day, but I do run it for more than an hour.
If I want to ensure I'll be able to use this mower as a replacement for my Honda, I need extra batteries. An extra set would give me up to 2 hours, and that's not enough, so I'm looking at 2 extra sets. Those batteries run $249 each. So if I buy this mower for $1099, and 4 extra batteries for $996, I could replace my Honda for $2,095, but only if I don't plan to go over 3 hours of use.
There's lots of contractors driving around with a truck full of Milwaukee tools. Sell us a heavy duty charger with a built in power converter that I can wire directly into my trucks electrical system, even if it requires a dual battery setup. Yeah, I know, I can buy a power converter. But I don't know what I'm buying, and I'm guessing some cheapie on Amazon isn't going to be sufficient. It would be nice to know I'm buying something designed by Milwaukee, for Milwaukee batteries. It's a lot easier to justify this kind of expense if there's a way to charge batteries on the go, rather than spending thousands just to have spare batteries rolling around in the truck.
$249 for 12.0 is full retail price but often I see them on offer up or Facebook marketplace for 130-150 dollars new. Usually people that get them with a kit but don’t need so many batteries. Anytime I need a new tool, I usually buy the kit and resell the charger and batteries. More bang for my buck 😉
I wonder what the street cost will be after some time on the market?
Pricey, yep. But of course Milwaukee is going to bring a very serious product out.
My Cub Cadet push mower was at 500 and it continues to cost me every time I use it. Where this mower shines is for the person who is already invested in Milwaukee tools and has the batteries already.
Once again Milwaukee does not disappoint with its latest offering.
Thanks again for another great video.
Nice presentation. I bought mine a couple weeks ago. As always Milwaukee Exceeded my expectations. Only complaint no place to put my beer. But sitting on my shop stool (that has casters) it pulls me across the room pretty quick. Might try connecting my packout platform to it with a chair on it lol. At a $1000.00 with 2 - 12 amp batteries & dual rapid chargers makes it a great deal plus if batteries need charging can walk in shop grab 2 fully charged keep mowing.
Guess I need to save up $1,000 cause I’m sick of my cheap old gas mower which is a PAIN every time I need to mow. Never starts up without issue, always dies. I also reckon this mower would make a chore a lot more enjoyable. Especially considering the lights and lower noise level, I could beat the heat and mow in the evening. Damn I want this mower but it’s gonna take some budgeting. Amazing review as always Tim, we love the content and seeing you push this mower with heavy and dense growth.
Buy the mower and offer some local lawn cutting services! If you have weekends available, try to book a couple lawns for maybe a month. Should help recover some of the investment. Plus, you get to use the mower even more then!
@@noblegas34 that’s a pretty darn tootin good idea! I actually have a good friend who’s got lots of lawn care work. I might have to get in on that.
This was an EXCELLENT review. It covered everything someone would need to know about this mower in a no nonsense not overly drooling over how great it is sort of way. Thanks!
I love Milwaukee. Have the hedge trimer, blower and string trimer. This lawnmower looks good but for 1100 is to expensive. I went and picked up a Greenworks pro 60v 21inch last week on sale for 499. Mowed my yard (takes an hour) and only used one battery! I think the Milwaukee should be around 699 or 799.
We do understand your point. The $1K-plus price tag definitely exceeds the limit for many. Greenworks makes some great mowers and tools. They have a very large spread of models to choose from. Glad your Greenworks is working well for you. Thanks for watching.
I absolutely love mine, mulching plus high lift mode is amazing.
I totally want this mower for the high-lift mode we have mulberry trees and those leaves go everywhere in the winter and make such a big mess!!
Nice review. Looks like a nice mower, but I think Honda’s ability to change between mulch and rear discharge without having to retrieve a chute or plug is much better. Hopefully in time the street price will also come down. Looks like a good option if you are already invested in M18 platform.
Good review! What everyone does is show these mowers cutting crazy weed ridden crap 2 feet tall and saying wow! I want to see real life use, thick grass being maintained weekly. My lawn will never look like that weedy mess.
Looks way better than my EGO that gets bogged down by my Zeon Zoysia. It is getting better after several months but still boggs down in the thicker section. Cutting at the 2nd lowest setting, which isn't very low.
Being able to push it easy without self propelled is nice, I will never forget when my 96 year old grandpas grass was overgrown the city contacted him to get it cut. (He had hurt his foot) I came over and he showed me where his mower was and it was such a struggle to push that thing. I remember thinking how is this 90+ year old man pushing this heavy heavy heavy mower. Wasn’t till I was almost finished that I noticed some other levers. It was self propelled and I had never used one before, plus it was like a 90 degree day out too. Will never forget that 😂
Thanks for the review Mr. Johnson. I enjoy your channel and the humbleness. 😊
Thank you very much and thanks for watching.
My understanding is that for height of cut measurements on rotary mowers one must measure at the front wheels. This is because there is an intentional pitch (about a quarter inch delta although like many things in life a bell curve applies 1/8" to 1/2" depending on design) between the front and rear blade height. The rear of the mower always being higher, since that is where the bag output is. Air is able to flow into the rear deck area, and not at the front - so a suction / vacuum is created and this inflates the porous mesh rear bag, and pulls clippings into it (lower pressure / resistance). If the front of the mower blade to wheel earth contact is one inch, then you are cutting the lawn at one inch. The M18 is likely 1inch or "what it says in the tin" as to height of cut, although I have not taken a tape measure to the very front of the blade under deck while at setting one. :)
This was very helpful! I recently had back surgery, and can’t do pull starts, do to twisting my back. I already have a multitude of Milwaukee tools, some of which use the 12 battery. So. I appreciate the number for tool only model, as I don’t need batteries or chargers.
Very amazing and honestly stylish. So few moving parts and it stands on it's own? Wow
Thanks for watching.
Wow you said all the right words to get a heart from him did you watch the video would you spend $1,000 on this lawn mower that we all know the runtime is not going to be 3/4 of an acre it's going to be less than half especially on a 90° plus Midwestern Day cutting grass much thicker than what he was cutting gripe you could see through the lawn maybe you should go back and rewatch it oh and go ahead and fire back at me I'm got broad shoulders I'm good.
@@whatdoyouthinktodd I honestly thought about buying it until I see it's way outside my price range. Electric mower is a great idea.
@@whatdoyouthinktodd I'm the biggest Milwaukee fanboy out there and he knows it. Haha
I really hope they release a scarifier/aerator/de-thatcher later this year.
Plus you can use the batteries in your other M18 tools
Unstoppable? Several YT videos showing severe run problems. Lots of 1 star reviews regarding bad 12aH batteries supplied with this mower. Yes, it's a beast when it runs. But if it doesn't run, it's an $1100+ paperweight. I just bought the Makita XML08 with (4) 5.0aH batteries and a dual bay rapid charger for $699 plus free shipping at HD. I saved $400 and got the mower most often reviewed as the #2 mower to Milwaukee's #1. I'd rather have the $400 than a #1 mower with problems. Thanks for this review video!
Just got an ad spot for a HART electric push mower
Ugh. I need this, but I'm stuck on Dewalt for all my 20v tools. The Dewalt mower version of this as is the folding trimmer is weak sauce in thick/tall grass. It does regular mowing just fine. At twice the price, it is hard to justify the switch. All the same battery mowers are definitely the way to go. I'll never go back to gas.
(Milwaukee you could steal me away pretty easily though if you added in a line of Power wheels toys for the kids that use your batteries. "Honey, I swear these are for the kids for Christmas!")
I went to the Milwaukee website and if you search for the 12.0 M18 batteries you'll find the majority of bad reviews. I just came from Farm and Fleet and it's a beautiful machine but those expensive batteries are flawed for sure. What is the warranty process for batteries? Many are saying they only have 3 bars after a short time of ownership, some say they cannot get a hold of anyone to address their issues.
One of the reviewers said he bought a cell balancer which he used on a battery that would not charge and suddenly he could charge it. I guess cell imbalance causes problems, interesting.
Will you review the new Dewalt RWD mower? I can't find any reviews yet!
We will have to see if we can get one in our hands. Thanks for watching.
The only I can say is WOW that Milwaukee mower is a beast.
Seems to be really nice and powerful. Just like you said price sucks maybe if the sold tool only I would consider. I have 2 electric mowers had several gas so far my 2 electric mowers have had more power than my gas. They are 80v and 56v. I wound think this mower running 2 12s would be a beast.
Yes, it's definitely impressive with on the power side, and the stability of the steel deck is very nice as well. Thanks for watching.
Would be great to see a non self propelled version at around the same price as others
At $1100.00 Milwaukee should offer a battery rebuild option , and a sweepstakes wouldn’t hurt !
Next challenge, running this beast through them trees!
As someone with a huge yard, I think I'll keep my ride on for the $1k 😄
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but how invested into the M18 line is Milwaukee? In terms of longevity. It would be a real pain to buy into the M18 ecosystem and then they make the batteries obsolete, and the tools are useless. I understand this is a potential issue with all the major brands, except for Ryobi? They've stated that whatever batteries they make in the future will be compatible with current tools. That's a big selling point for someone who wants to keep their tools for 10+ years.
Cheers!
That's a great question, and Milwaukee has proven that they're dedicated to the M18 platform. Thus, when they need it, they just include a dual-battery setup as in this mower. They launched the MX platform for larger equipment like demolition saws, large jackhammers, and even jobsite lighting; however, that's really not interfering with the 18V (M18) lineup. I'm definitely not a spokesperson for the company, but we do try to keep a pulse on what's happening. I think we're safe with the M18 line for quite some time. Thanks for watching.
I'm a fan of Torque Test Channel, where they showed off Milwauk's flagship impact wrench. Considering it's a dual handle, 1" anvil, 1400+ ft-lb, 2+ foot long *MONSTER* and it only uses a _SINGLE_ battery pack, I'd say they're comfortably invested in their current system
There are a zillion m18 tools and new ones coming out all the time. Look at the catalogue.
@@MrDsn112 That wasn't my question.
@@reck0n3r it is though. They are insanely heavily invested in the platform.
What's next for Milwaukee??? A snowblower????? Lol I wouldn't be surprised if they come out with one
Totally getting one.. I think Milwaukee is expected to announce a snowblower next Tuesday at their pipeline event
Great video. Any plans of doing a head to head comparison with the other brands?
Great video! Thanks for putting the Milwaukee mower through the paces. How would you compare it to the Ego Select Cut XP 56v 10amp?
Excellent review. I’ve been on the fence since it first came out. Well….. off to Ace to get this bad boy.
They need to add a couple of things:
1. An eco button that only runs the blade at a lower speed to save on battery life and get a longer run time. Better yet, maybe even a dial for various blade speeds like the self-propel dial.
2. 4 battery bays so we can use say 5.0 or 6.0 batteries that we already own. (like the Makita XML08)
3. Non-proprietary blades, otherwise, they get to control the price unless 3rd parties make blades
4. A cheaper price tag 😉
I like these 18Vx2 electric mowers but think they still need to work on them a little more.
You’re a Floridian, I’m always gonna give you a thumbs up!
I love how far Milwaukee have come reasonable price tools very good build quality
Me too I love the Milwaukee and only use high output 6.0 amp hour battery set up and it’s a beast, ego Milwaukee is coming for you 😂😂😂
Fantastic review👍 I am just curious what is the other mower that compares to this that you mentioned and were thinking about at 20:33?
I was wondering the exact same thing. Is it the commercial grade Toro model #22282 60v mower? That one is over $1,800 with the two battery kit. It's about the only other battery mower I've seen reviews on RUclips that literally does everything a gas mower would do without any compromises.
EGO Select Cut XP. Thanks for the kudos and thanks for watching.
We haven’t reviewed the Toro yet.
@@DIY-fz9cn Yeah, that was what I was thinking. I bought the 22282 and it spins a beefy blade and not a thin flexible one like every other cordless mower. I returned the ego xp and bought the Toro.
Thanks for asking. I was beginning to wonder if this was a sponsored video and they weren't allowed to mention the competitor that could be "just as if not more powerful."
Excellent review! Glad to be a new subscriber...I love my Milwaukee tools. 👍
Great, comprehensive review. Thank you! 👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
I'd say that it's actually closer to $600.00 I mean if you bought it separately. Because the batteries are $200.00 each. So yes $1000.00 total but you get those two batteries to use in any Milwaukee tools. Which I have 16 of.
I quik-scanned and didn't see it - the other almost as powerful motor was the E-go perhaps?
Got a greenworks 21” 80V two batteries, charger, weedwhacker, and 3000 psi pressure washer for less than this.
Glad I’m not a professional!
You are correct, there are several items that you can buy for the same amount of money. However, there is still a niche market that needs the power and features that the Milwaukee offers, albeit not so much in the home market. Thanks for watching and sharing.
Can you compare the new Milwaukee lawnmower to the new 56 volt Echo mower and ope.
You have to have the blade slightly above the bottom of mower. Too low and the blades can catch dirt and try dig themselves into the ground.
It has impressive power to cut though the jungle.
Even though I'm the milwaukee platform, I still would of bought toro or ego, they just have a big headstart on MIlwuakee and they know mowers. I bought my toto 60v for 325 on sale, yep you read that right vs 1000? Before then I had an ego but I just wanted self propelled and to try the toro . The ego was great just that the batts died evey 3-4 years, and they aren't cheap. The toro self pace just rocks.
I can't wait for someone to do a head to head with the Toro, Ego and Milwaukee. My money is on the Milwaukee.
@shoptoolreviews please do a head to head vs EGO selectcut. I switched last year from a Honda HRX217 to the EGO and was very disappointed with the cut quality in comparison to the Honda. Other big complaints include too slow of a self-propel speed and the need to use almost two complete 7.5ah batteries to cut less than a half acre of yards.
If this Milwaukee significantly outperforms the EGO, I'm buying. But if not, then the thousand dollars is much better spent on another Honda. Thanks in advance
Which model do you have? Is it the Select Cut, Select Cut XP, or something else? Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews It's model 2130 SP with 7.5 ah batteries. Not sure if that's the XP or not, they seem to have identical specs
A head to head comparison between Milwaukee and Ego Select Cut XP (10amp battery) would be awesome to see.
@@Shoptoolreviews Just picked up this M18 mower. No comparison to my EGO Selectcut XP. The 'Waukee is a beast! Much lower cut height, super quick ramp up, great power in thick grass, and fast enough propell speed to pop wheelies if you aren't careful!
No one has covered the most important item for every electric mower. Where do you go to get it repaired when the warranty expires?
Thanks for the review. I'm curious to know which is the other cordless mower you said was comparable to this one as far as power? Thank you.
They could better justify the price for the kit if they also announced some fancy new batteries with more run time. The 12.0s are great but they’re been out almost 4 years. Not enough juice for high power equipment like this.
We'd love to see some more runtime for sure. However, it is pretty amazing what they're pulling from these 18v batteries. Thanks for watching.
I agree and single blade and only 3 year warranty.
While I'm a Makita guy, my storage shed really likes how this Red thing folds up for storage in my shed.
Sorry, Makita, Milwaukee wins this round!
1st time watching your channel , liked the video very informative, subscribed! keep up the good work!
IM SELLING MY GAS ⛽️ LAWNMOWER AND BUYING THIS ONE FOR SURE. THANK YOU FIR THIS VIDEO.
Maybe it has been already said but I see several similarities between this and my Honda push mower,like drive handle and rear bagger
Seems very nice, but I have trouble seeing how it’s $400 better than it’s very similar competitors.
Great review. I’m due for a new mower and for a company like Milwaukee getting into this space it really seems like they used my Kobalt 80volt mower as a sample. I think nearly 5 years ago I paid $600 and that came with two 80volts (only one inserted at a time) batteries but get this…2.5 AH!! From the metal deck, to the way you raise the cutting height. All very similar to my 5 year old mower. So, I need to decide if it’s worth the jump over the Top of the Line eGo. I do like the metal deck but shocked it doesn’t have a dual blade.
80v 2.5ah is probably similar to a 20v 6ah battery, but those use 18650 cells and the Milwaukee HO batteries use a 21700 cell which is a better battery overall. Its all the same, its just the cell quality on how they rate them. They use more cheaper cells to call it a 80v but in fact you still have a 20v battery with low ah rating. A 18v Milwaukee battery is essentially a 20v battery when u add up 5 of them in a row. Do they call it a 18v at 3.7v dead or 20v 4.2v charged 🤔 🤷♂️
In fairness, the price is about average in the UK for a decent mower! I spent the same on a Mountfield sp 505r about 18 months ago and it's been an absolute nightmare, with aftersales service none existent. At the moment, wishing I'd bought anything else! Unfortunately everyone in the UK wants the classic stripes and as far as I know, there are no battery roller mowers on the market!
My question is for us that are already deeply invested in the Milwaukee M18 and M12 tools. I myself over the last month had replaced every power tools int my garage with M18 and M12 cordless power tools. Love the products.
So I have a total of 10 M18 high output/High Demand batteries with 4 of them being 12Ah, 2 8Ah, 2 6Ah and 2 3Ah. I also have 2 rapid and 1 super changer. So do you know when and if they will be selling the 2823-20 (tool only) and the cost? I really want this unit only because I am so invested into the M18 products now, But don't need the charger and batteries have enough of them on hand as you can tell.
Thanks for all your help in advance!
Just buy the kit and sell off the batteries and chargers. Many people do this to help cover the cost.
@@noblegas34 would probably be cheaper to do it that way then if they offered a tool only.
One of those things, of yuh has the Milwaukee batteries already it’s a no brainer. But if you want to invest in a full ope lineup snowblowers and all, ego is the way to go
Great video review! I think you covered everything!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
I love my Milwaukee mower for the fact that i don't need another set of batteries and charger. I already have the tools that use these batteries
How long will Aussies have to wait for this mower?
That's a good question and one that we can't answer. I wish we knew for you. Thanks for watching.
You mention there’ll be a bare tool option in the beginning of the video when you were talking part numbers. What’s the price for that? I didn’t hear it when talking cost.
Really close to getting this mower almost talked myself into it hopefully soon what boots are you using? Thorogood? Redwings?
I’ll stick with the Ryobi crosscut, which comes with two batteries for $549. I was told by a Milwaukee rep that the same group makes Ryobi and Milwaukee tools.
Enjoyed the video... Great info!
Sooo it rolls pretty good. Pretty fast ground speed?
Hmmm I would love to take 2 of those motors and build an electric go kart
Thing is a beast!
Wish i could get this in Australia
Is this really that much better than the top Ego push mower? What makes it "Pro grade" other than the Price?
I had terrible cut quality with the 3 most recent ego mowers I have had including the newest select cut. They all leave so many stragglers and I hate the self propelled and cheap plastic deck. They just don't have enough lift.
That is some thin grass your cutting. I wonder how it would do you want something thicker
Still can't put my lawnboy 2 stroke away :p think I'll wait a couple of years for the electric mowers surpass the vintage 2 stroke mowers (whichs surpassed the 4 stroke mowers years ago)
Been told this only sold with the batteries and charger. Not being sold as a bare tool
Great video as always 👍 👌🏽 👏
That thing is a beast!
Yes, it definitely is. Thanks for watching.
Anyone else get anxiety when he reaches in the blade compartment with the batteries still in the unit?
So you can buy an Ego self propelled 21” select cut for $499 with the same power and runtime. Then add the best blower on the market and a weedwacker and still be cheaper then this Milwaukee mower.
That’s actually good to know cause I would love to upgrade from gas. Does the mower you’re talking about include battery and charger?
Yeh but it's not Milwaukee😆
You are correct, you can get the Select cut for $499 for the mower only. Select Cut with the battery/charger is $699, and the Select Cut XP with battery/charger is $799. We agree, hands down, EGO has the best blowers at this time. Thanks for watching.
@@terry504able THANK YOU
This is a commercial grade mower, not your homeowner model hence the quality, tech, and performance difference. If you watch any of the head to head videos it wins hands down for commercial applications.
stihl Cordless Range simply the Best And pretty good value for money 💴
We've reviewed and tested the Stihl mowers. The runtime is not all that great. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews
Which battery are you using I’m assuming you tested with the AK30
For me I found this battery amazing for my Cordless mower I can do my lawn at least six times And I have a good size lawn
We’re can we purchase it with out the battery and charger 2823-20 part number
That’s what I’m wondering.
He mentioned that it was available but I can’t find it anywhere, in find the complete kit
@@ern153 I saw that. Then when I went to Milwaukee’s actual website it only has the 2823-22 number on their site.
@@Steeda04SVT Mis leading information…lol that would be cool if they did tool only
Do you have any idea why the back flap does not close all the way and is there a way to fix it.
Have you tried the CAT 60V Mower?
This mower is now going for under $700. At that price it sounds like a good deal.
Biggest draw back is the minimum cutting height and the proceeding increments of 13mm, not enough options at the low end. Ideally 20mm then 26, 32, 38 then who cares.
I like living dangerously. Wheels on the line and I still don’t get stragglers.
Here's to you Mr. Perfect-lawnmower-operator ("...real men of genius.."🎶 playing in the background), without you we would have nothing to strive for. Lol. Thanks for watching and commenting.
14:15 i am impressed lmao
I dont like the rear discharge, my John Deere from 1998 has that same rear side discharge and it comes out the wrong side. When u are so use to using the left side of deck to do edge passes and not blowing everything in beds or walks its really frustrating. And it clumps and clogs a lot in the tube if the lawn is thick and has any dew. So this is kinda holding me back from buying it. I really hated that rear side discharge since 1998 lol