I'm thinking about getting rid of my ss. I think these Lexus are really nice. I like luxury, comfort, and more room. Also the Lexus would be better on gas too lol. V8 drink gas.
I don't know if you still see notices from these Chris - but here I am more than 4 years later looking to choose from used Lexus automobiles. Thanks for the review of this one...as always great job!!!
4:03 Judging from the boost meter when you floored it, it looks like the turbo spooled up really quickly. It seemed like most of the delay there was waiting for the automatic transmission to downshift a couple gears.
You are probably correct, blane237, and Chris began wondering the same thing after reviewing the footage during editing. We appreciate your comments. Thanks for watching!
@Aura Abjure make sure you sit directly on the seat and not on the bolster, if you sit on it excessively the foam underneath might push out in bits. Others then that there's no problems really.
I just got this car 2 weeks ago. I love almost everything about it, but the turbo lag is very annoying, especially when merging into the freeway. Other than that this car s great.
Yes correct I have this exact car and one day a guy in a charger raced me and beat me when I was on my way home from Walmart and my car hesitated really bad and once I figured out to put it into sport mode it was very snappy after that...
Having went from a Saab 9-3 to a IS350 I don't see the big deal with the 6.9 0-60. The saab I owned I had got 6.8. Now when I went from the Saab to the Lexus it didn't feel like a huge power difference despite the nearly 2 second 0-60 difference. The reason being is that the 350 has a very linear smooth torque curve. When the turbo spooled in the saab it felt like a freight train. The saab wasnt a dig monster like the 350, but from a roll, it could mean business. The point of this car isn't solely about performance so don't take it as such and quoting a 0-60 run like its gospel. On top of all this, the 250 was slower so it has been upgraded. Take everything with a grain of salt because I'm certain this would be a great all round car.
Exactly, Matt Surratt. And the lag is more than likely not a big deal for most people, but because this IS 200t is such a sporty looking vehicle, there may be some buyers who are a little more hardcore and are looking for a more hardcore sports sedan. They'd definitely want to know about the lag. We assume your wife is enjoying her car, because it is definitely a looker! Thank your for your comments and for watching, too!
I have the same car in white and the lag is the only lag that I don’t like. Overall it’s comfortable and fun to drive. Also on 1st or 2nd gear when driving really slow, transmission jolts in a weird way sometimes which worries me
Glad a reviewer made a point of talking about the turbo lag cos it's really bad when combined with an auto transmission. Some people feel they should have stuck with a 6 speed auto for the 200T to compensate for the lag. 350 is much better when putting around.
Is it just me, or am I the only one to recognize that this car is equipped with only one turbo and he keeps saying turbo(s) ?? This is a twin scrolling turbo, not twin turbo ;) ;) lol
I got mine last year with 32k miles for around 21k, the trim before f sport since I didn’t think the f sport package justified the heftier price tag since it’s purely cosmetic
Great looking car, it's weird that it's priced at almost 50k, with that price range you have a lot more options. But thanks Chris keep up the great work!!
Hey! Long time no chat, Contane 21. These cars are getting rather pricey nowadays and you're correct, the more expensive these cars get, the more competition there is to choose from. Hope all is well and thanks for watching!
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I like the honesty in your reviews, you don't sugarcoat everything like some other reviewers. Turbo lag at this price point, is not acceptable to me. I like this car, but this powertrain is a deal breaker. I would get another motor.
Thank you, pedro fernandez. Some people like to bash certain cars just for the heck of it. We try to identify the pros and cons of the vehicles we test and our viewers, as well as the manufacturers, appreciate that. With regards to the turbo lag, unfortunately that is a common trait no matter the price range of the vehicle, but it is more evident on performance-oriented vehicles due to the expected quicker throttle response. This is why some companies, such as Porsche, have used twin turbo setups. In those configurations, a small turbo spins up faster at low rpm to provide quick initial power, then a larger turbo takes over at the higher rpms, eliminating lag while still providing good top end power. You'll notice a lot more cars using turbocharged engines now because they give us more power out of smaller engines and better fuel economy to meet CAFE regulations, but we also have to deal with the lag that accompanies them. We appreciate you, pedro fernandez.
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If we remember correctly, this 200t has the same suspension as other F SPORT trims, Relax T, so you can adjust it to your liking. A standard 250 will fall somewhere in the middle of comfort and Sport+. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
240bhp and they only managed to squeeze 6.9 seconds out of the car? what are they doing wrong? The german 2L diesels are getting close to that. Their 240-250bhp cars get below 6s........
We think Lexus is still trying to tow the line between sports sedan and luxury sedan. The closer you inch toward one, the further you go from the other. Not to mention, they have to keep fuel economy in mind, too, which is why we're seeing these smaller engines from the brand. Lexus figures that if consumers want more power, they can buy one of their V8-engined cars. Right now, though, a lot of buyers have been enjoying the current mix that Lexus has to offer, so we don't think we'll see changes any time soon, unless people don't buy the 200t. We appreciate your comments, NickLiang. Thanks for watching!
***** Wow thank you for the profound view! Considering they made the 200T for those who wanted a more sporty experience in their line up of IS, it is rather underwhelming at 7s. They already have a hybrid for those mpg conscious customer.
NickLiang Well, again, we believe that the 200T is more for better fuel economy averages across the brand than for the sporty car experience, even though the IS 200T is sporty. But if we truly knew the answer, we'd be making way more money. Oh, well. Thanks for watching!
For people like us who care about performance, that is why they offer the 350, for the rest that just want to ride in a smooth and reliable luxury car with high MPGs, there is where the 200t comes into play.
SkyTheDestroyer- I've had the 2014 and 2015 Is 350 F-Sport and the performance isn't that impressive. An Audi 3.0T and a 335i are faster; 200t is great option for the commute.
The velocity, unfortunately, is relative, Omar Imad. It depends upon what you are used to. If you're coming from a 2002 Corolla, this car will feel fast. However, if you're coming from a 1989 Mustang GT, not so much. We say don't worry too much about it. Just take the opportunity to test drive one before you buy, when you get the chance. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
AutoAcademics I'm coming from a Toyota Prado 2005 stock. I live in Dubai so either highways or curvy roads and curvy bridges so I think it will be fun to drive the is in curves but is it slow to the extent where it's not fun and turning is not fun. is it 350 or nothing
Omar Imad Coming from a Prado, even though the IS 200t doesn't have the low-end grunt of the 350, it'll feel more lively than what you're used to and will definitely be more fun to drive on curvy roads. As we mentioned before, take one for a test drive to be sure. Good luck and comment back on here if you get one. We'd love to hear your thoughts!
Hi, Ernesto Melendez. The 2016 Lexus IS 200t that we tested was automatic. In fact, all Lexus vehicles currently on the market in North America are automatic. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
Hopefully we'll get our hands on a current-gen C-Class soon. But until we do, the IS 200t F SPORT was a pretty cool ride. Thank you for your comment and thanks for watching, too!
As a Lexus fan, I'll admit I don't like the Lexus turbos. I'll agree that I'll take a C300 over the IS 200t, but I'd still rather have the naturally aspirated IS 350 over the C300.
Lexus is killing it, seriously on a roll.
They are definitely trying to keep the IS updated. Thanks, justin bouche.
This car is around 20k used, still a badass car consider is RWD 4 cylinder turbocharged, I would prefer this over Camry
selerim I'm thinking of trading my accord coupe in for one of these used but cant decide if I want the is or rc 200t
I really wish this car was available in a manual.
selerim I’ve seen some in that price range as well. Thinking of getting one with my girl.
I'm thinking about getting rid of my ss. I think these Lexus are really nice. I like luxury, comfort, and more room. Also the Lexus would be better on gas too lol. V8 drink gas.
KingDolla89 *Ha tell me about it.*
I don't know if you still see notices from these Chris - but here I am more than 4 years later looking to choose from used Lexus automobiles. Thanks for the review of this one...as always great job!!!
Sure do, Carlo Garcia! Fortunately, the used car market helps to pay the bills, too. :) As always, thanks for watching!
Added the sprint booster that remapped my throttle on my 2012 is250 f-sport and I have no lag, instant acceleration
The high pitch music in the background really ruins this review experience.
Sorry you didn't like it. Thanks for attempting to watch, anyway.
I actually enjoyed the music
The background music is groovy n funky.
😅 Thanks for watching, Aura Abjure! 🎵🎶
4:03 Judging from the boost meter when you floored it, it looks like the turbo spooled up really quickly. It seemed like most of the delay there was waiting for the automatic transmission to downshift a couple gears.
You are probably correct, blane237, and Chris began wondering the same thing after reviewing the footage during editing. We appreciate your comments. Thanks for watching!
I have this car , I love it
Glad you love it! I just bought one. Any advice about how to handle it, and anything to watch out for?
@Aura Abjure make sure you sit directly on the seat and not on the bolster, if you sit on it excessively the foam underneath might push out in bits. Others then that there's no problems really.
@@travisl1759 I appreciate the time it took you to write that Travis, and I will follow your advice. Thank you.
This reminded me of the 80s commercials.. Lmao.. Thabks for sharing
I just got this car 2 weeks ago. I love almost everything about it, but the turbo lag is very annoying, especially when merging into the freeway. Other than that this car s great.
You shouldve gotten the 350 like I did, instant power and buttery smooth
+David Liu yes I got the 350 moves pretty good
its not the turbo lag its the 8 speed tranny, make sure to downshift before to speed manually
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Downshift and you will smile every time
Very well done,
mix of background music and dialog. Congrats.
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Bruh put the car on sports mode and then accelerate! That when its gonna gain power when u instantly push the paddle.
Hmm. Maybe. We'll be testing a GS 200t soon so we'll see if that works. Either way, thank you for your comments and thanks for watching!
Yes correct I have this exact car and one day a guy in a charger raced me and beat me when I was on my way home from Walmart and my car hesitated really bad and once I figured out to put it into sport mode it was very snappy after that...
AutoAcademics did you not know that?? Why the hell u do cars reviews when you are noob
Buying this from Carmax. Can’t wait
Enjoy your new ride and thanks for watching, Another day with A!
Having went from a Saab 9-3 to a IS350 I don't see the big deal with the 6.9 0-60. The saab I owned I had got 6.8. Now when I went from the Saab to the Lexus it didn't feel like a huge power difference despite the nearly 2 second 0-60 difference. The reason being is that the 350 has a very linear smooth torque curve. When the turbo spooled in the saab it felt like a freight train. The saab wasnt a dig monster like the 350, but from a roll, it could mean business. The point of this car isn't solely about performance so don't take it as such and quoting a 0-60 run like its gospel. On top of all this, the 250 was slower so it has been upgraded. Take everything with a grain of salt because I'm certain this would be a great all round car.
Great examples to think about, MrMusicweekly. Thanks for sharing and for watching!
Thanks for throwing in your review. The IS (F Sport) is definitely a good looking car. Deciding over this or the 2018 Camry XSE V6.
Thank you, Tom Namsa. We appreciate your comments. Thanks for watching!
Good car. I'll see if my local Lexus dealer has it.
Thats the same color and setup I got my wife. I had the Lag at the start but overall the car is great.
Exactly, Matt Surratt. And the lag is more than likely not a big deal for most people, but because this IS 200t is such a sporty looking vehicle, there may be some buyers who are a little more hardcore and are looking for a more hardcore sports sedan. They'd definitely want to know about the lag. We assume your wife is enjoying her car, because it is definitely a looker! Thank your for your comments and for watching, too!
I have the same car in white and the lag is the only lag that I don’t like. Overall it’s comfortable and fun to drive. Also on 1st or 2nd gear when driving really slow, transmission jolts in a weird way sometimes which worries me
Glad a reviewer made a point of talking about the turbo lag cos it's really bad when combined with an auto transmission. Some people feel they should have stuck with a 6 speed auto for the 200T to compensate for the lag. 350 is much better when putting around.
Is it just me, or am I the only one to recognize that this car is equipped with only one turbo and he keeps saying turbo(s) ?? This is a twin scrolling turbo, not twin turbo ;) ;) lol
great review! planning on getting a base model is200t 2016 for my first car (used)
haha im looking for one aswell. hard to find em with less than 60k miles tho
Thanks for watching, Finn Baker!
Caleb Pike if you you use auto trader it’s pretty easy to find em for 20k
@@ayooooooob3090 in my area (NC) i see 47k miles at $26k :(
I got mine last year with 32k miles for around 21k, the trim before f sport since I didn’t think the f sport package justified the heftier price tag since it’s purely cosmetic
Great looking car, it's weird that it's priced at almost 50k, with that price range you have a lot more options. But thanks Chris keep up the great work!!
Hey! Long time no chat, Contane 21. These cars are getting rather pricey nowadays and you're correct, the more expensive these cars get, the more competition there is to choose from. Hope all is well and thanks for watching!
Got my IS350 Fsport for $40k (before taxes)
David Liu As we like to say, DAvid Liu, "Everything is negotiable.
It’s worth 20k+ now used. Weird how the price drop so drastic
Great review bro
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Good review
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Good review bro
Thanks for watching, Nelson Modiba!
But you didn't say anything about the problems a turbo charged engine might have vs naturally aspirated.
I like the honesty in your reviews, you don't sugarcoat everything like some other reviewers. Turbo lag at this price point, is not acceptable to me. I like this car, but this powertrain is a deal breaker. I would get another motor.
Thank you, pedro fernandez. Some people like to bash certain cars just for the heck of it. We try to identify the pros and cons of the vehicles we test and our viewers, as well as the manufacturers, appreciate that.
With regards to the turbo lag, unfortunately that is a common trait no matter the price range of the vehicle, but it is more evident on performance-oriented vehicles due to the expected quicker throttle response. This is why some companies, such as Porsche, have used twin turbo setups. In those configurations, a small turbo spins up faster at low rpm to provide quick initial power, then a larger turbo takes over at the higher rpms, eliminating lag while still providing good top end power. You'll notice a lot more cars using turbocharged engines now because they give us more power out of smaller engines and better fuel economy to meet CAFE regulations, but we also have to deal with the lag that accompanies them. We appreciate you, pedro fernandez.
Turbo lag is present in all turbo charged vehicles
I have the same car but mine is redline red f package but I didnt get the mark Levinson stereo
Before those turbos (more than one) spool up? It only has one turbo lol!!
nice reviews:)
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done that long time ago. low US IS Lex here in Europe to put plate in middle of that grill :/
Thank you! We appreciate you, wellwh0.
Single turbo. Not turbos
Hey there Chris, how you doin?
Working hard. Besides that... GREAT! Thanks for asking.
Is it smooth like the IS250?
If we remember correctly, this 200t has the same suspension as other F SPORT trims, Relax T, so you can adjust it to your liking. A standard 250 will fall somewhere in the middle of comfort and Sport+. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
240bhp and they only managed to squeeze 6.9 seconds out of the car? what are they doing wrong? The german 2L diesels are getting close to that. Their 240-250bhp cars get below 6s........
We think Lexus is still trying to tow the line between sports sedan and luxury sedan. The closer you inch toward one, the further you go from the other. Not to mention, they have to keep fuel economy in mind, too, which is why we're seeing these smaller engines from the brand. Lexus figures that if consumers want more power, they can buy one of their V8-engined cars. Right now, though, a lot of buyers have been enjoying the current mix that Lexus has to offer, so we don't think we'll see changes any time soon, unless people don't buy the 200t. We appreciate your comments, NickLiang. Thanks for watching!
The IS200t is a lot heavier, has a lower redline and taller gear ratios. All these makes the IS200t a lot slower in a straight line.
***** Wow thank you for the profound view! Considering they made the 200T for those who wanted a more sporty experience in their line up of IS, it is rather underwhelming at 7s. They already have a hybrid for those mpg conscious customer.
NickLiang Well, again, we believe that the 200T is more for better fuel economy averages across the brand than for the sporty car experience, even though the IS 200T is sporty. But if we truly knew the answer, we'd be making way more money. Oh, well. Thanks for watching!
Reliability and technology> 0-60 everyday all day.
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6.9 is so slow for 40k plus. Is350 is the way to go. Worth every penny extra
For people like us who care about performance, that is why they offer the 350, for the rest that just want to ride in a smooth and reliable luxury car with high MPGs, there is where the 200t comes into play.
SkyTheDestroyer- I've had the 2014 and 2015 Is 350 F-Sport and the performance isn't that impressive. An Audi 3.0T and a 335i are faster; 200t is great option for the commute.
I own the 200t f sport...a dream to drive and 33 mpg average for me. Plus a 800 tune and intake makes this thing smoke any 350
Unfortunately IS350 is not offered in my country..
Ryan Smith what was your increased HP? Also, did tuning Decrease the turbo lag?
£14.000 in UK, turbo lag killed my interest..thanks
It's a software detune. Buy an OVtune for it. Serious improvement
thoughts on the 250 for daily driver I'm 18.im worried it's slow to an extent where it's not fun
The velocity, unfortunately, is relative, Omar Imad. It depends upon what you are used to. If you're coming from a 2002 Corolla, this car will feel fast. However, if you're coming from a 1989 Mustang GT, not so much. We say don't worry too much about it. Just take the opportunity to test drive one before you buy, when you get the chance. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
AutoAcademics I'm coming from a Toyota Prado 2005 stock. I live in Dubai so either highways or curvy roads and curvy bridges so I think it will be fun to drive the is in curves but is it slow to the extent where it's not fun and turning is not fun. is it 350 or nothing
AutoAcademics thanks alot for great review man
Omar Imad Coming from a Prado, even though the IS 200t doesn't have the low-end grunt of the 350, it'll feel more lively than what you're used to and will definitely be more fun to drive on curvy roads. As we mentioned before, take one for a test drive to be sure. Good luck and comment back on here if you get one. We'd love to hear your thoughts!
So this car is automatic or stick shift?
Hi, Ernesto Melendez. The 2016 Lexus IS 200t that we tested was automatic. In fact, all Lexus vehicles currently on the market in North America are automatic. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
Another problem with this car aside from the turbo lag would definitely be the brake dusts... anyone noticing this problem?
I'd get the C class tbh
Hopefully we'll get our hands on a current-gen C-Class soon. But until we do, the IS 200t F SPORT was a pretty cool ride. Thank you for your comment and thanks for watching, too!
As a Lexus fan, I'll admit I don't like the Lexus turbos. I'll agree that I'll take a C300 over the IS 200t, but I'd still rather have the naturally aspirated IS 350 over the C300.
Samuel Wu We agree. Toyota's 3.5L is a nice engine.
200t is less hp than the 350
No shit😂😂😂
27mpg is not economic at all
Then buy a Prius and stick in a tampon big guy😃
Good review
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