Review | 2016 Lexus IS200t F Sport | Boost Refined
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- We do a short review on the new 2016 IS200t. Gone is the IS250 and less powerful 2.5L V6. The new Turbo motor makes more power, and is light on it's feet. But we take a look at a few of the issues and more.
Since we already have a long format review on the IS350, consider this a test of a shorter review format.
IS350 Full Review:
• Review | 2015 Lexus IS...
NX200t Full Review: (To learn about new 2.0L Turbo)
• Review | 2015 Lexus NX...
Goose Footage Licensed by: Philip Bloom
Authorized Usage Between 2015 through 1/3/2017
www.philipbloom...
Index:
00:00 - 00:50
00:50 - 4:10 In the Shoppe with Scott Turbowski
4:13 - 5:35 Track Impressions
5:35 - 6:25 The Oddities of Smoothness
6:26 - 13:40 Street Drive, Transmissions, Refinement, MPG and Performance
13:44 - 14:37 Conclusions
I love my BMW....but I might just pull the trigger on this one because I want the long term reliability. That 7-10 year reliability that Lexus and Toyota have is just unmatched.
+kikyoass well what do you want the most out of a car, for it to work...
kikyoass 7-10 year?? My bros Toyota Solara is 15 years old, my Lexus ES330 is 12 years old, and my moms Land Cruiser is 13 years old. All cars are still going strong, and the interiors have held up phenomenally. The Land Cruiser has 255,000 miles on it. These cars will go for 20+ years. My neighbor has an ‘89 Lexus LS400 as his daily driver. That makes it almost 30 years old.
Go for it, you won’t regret it. I walked away from a Cadillac STS 2007 V8 to a GS 350 2013. The power, luxury, and handling is way better than the Cadillac i used to have. Both cars have the same fuel capacity with a 17.4 gallan fuel tank and the GS as expected is much better on fuel. Not to mention the 0 to 60 is much quicker on the GS compred to the Cadillac because of less weight. Overall, I am pleased with it.
More like 20-30 years
RandomTechS@#T Exactly.
With your heavy criticism on this car, you'fe just managed to delete all my doubts about the 2.0 liter turbo engine. I drive a GS 300h and I'm looking for a coupé that won't make my heart race and pound (my former coupé was a 2008 Honda Civic Type-R - I live in Europe), as well as not drown my ears in engine noise. I need a silent, comfortable, refined coupé with power in the mid range.
I own this car, the turbo lag is not that bad. It's only bad if you're in eco mode and try to floor it from a start. But then again, why would you do that to begin with? I love this car so much, beats any BMW or Mercedes I've ever owned already.
I have this car and did just that to see how the turbo lag felt, it's noticeable but not bad. Just don't do it often.
I don’t understand why almost everyone that does a review on this vehicle try to put it down with the same frase... “this is not a sport car”. We Own Lexus vehicles, we know! How bout start your videos with “this is what f sport means... it means it has upgrades from regular 200t”
Lexus IS is "so refined it makes no sense on the track". That's all it is to call out it isn't going to roar and get bumpy, the viseral senses typically associated with sports notes
bc theres gonna be people who treat the car like its an S2000 lol
The turn-in and track bump @11:58 is a great shot. The RR x-ing is in most of your street test drive videos. Release a supercut of the corner and watch the viewcount soar.
is it me or does this guy look and sound like Phil Coulson from AVENGERS,which is pretty cool
I love the looks of this car. I wasn't so sure at first but I really do like it. I don't like the fact that there isn't any initial power when you first step on it. There's nothing worse then when you pull out into heavy traffic and your car doesn't move. Grrr!
This is going to become one of the greatest car review channels on youtube.
maybe by 2067
Good guess
Toyota is king
I will say it feels a LOT better once you put in a K&N in it and know the power band in manual and sport mode. Great little car for scooting around town.
I have a good feeling the next gen FR-S might get this 2.0T engine with a 6spd manual and a torsen dif. Toyota PLEASE let it happen
I will sell my gen in a heartbeat
Why would you make stuff up? No one ever said this.
Awesome car.
A great blend of luxury and performance it can do both without any sacrifices. The fact you can drive it on the track and take it on a back road is great. I think it looks damn good I honestly think it the best designed car in its class in person its a really pretty looking car with a great interior. That delay on take off should be addressed
Like the conclusion in this video I also think its the best car to buy out of the class of car. You get a extremely well engineered car, Lexus luxury, a great chassis with a engine that will be dead reliable.
I agree. I still drool over them, can't wait to get one again.
I own one too, previously had a gt86. Man this car comfort wise is out of this world, the initerior is exquisite, breaks are excellent, power is sublime, so quiet. Only weakness is that it is heavy, but u cant have everything.
@@Kimoharoun how is the mpg?
@@v8_sami
mpg is pretty great, i have thr is300 which ie a 2 litre turbo.
Great review man; I was wondering about the IS200t, since I cannot afford the IS350. Do you have any plans to see how the IS300 stacks up -- since it's in between the two?
Subscribed because you film near Woodstock :) Good to see youtubers out that way.
best videos on youtube on cars , you deserve millions of views , so professional , video editing is great also
I guess i was pretty good at tire management. I replaced mine at 28k miles along with the brakes
It's about time you got Turbowski mic'd up. Thanks for the review.
Great Video, agree with a lot of what you mentioned about the Is200t, Lexus driver since newly redesigned is350. I bought a IS350 F Sport AWD, because I live in Chicago and definitely need the AWD. I think it's a great buy, yes main reason I purchased that car because of reliability and design, inside and out. Need something different past cars include vw, bmw, Mercedes, cost of those were ridiculously overpriced but that's just my opinion, and my pocket. Thanks for the video!!! Just subscribed
I like the conversation shots in this one, nice job
Looking to upgrade my Dad's old 2004 avalon, at first I was thinking TSX, TL, and G37's but now the IS's got me feeling some kind of way..
great work as always....Beautiful shots
Thank you !! First review up!
great review. the production is unbelieveably professional.
These videos are one of the most detailed, honest and true to fact reviews I have ever seen. Dan Khan and Ahmed..you guys are just criticizing someone who is trying to do something..ever heard about growing up ? Moreover, all I see is a Khan being supported by Ahmed...try harder next time.
I got one of these and i got about 60,000 miles on it and it runs perfect and the turbo sounds insane just know if you got the naked exhausts you cant hear the turbo but if u get the covers your able to hear it more not saying you cant at all with it naked but its quieter
I feel cheated by Lexus. Just bought a 2015 IS 250 last year and they discontinue it and come out with the IS 200t. wtf
I just got my 2011 lexus is 250 awd in September. I know how you feel
+Chris Park When I was helping my parents to shop for a new car last year we looked into the NX and the IS, and at the lexus dealer I asked the guy that was helping us if they are ever going to put the turbo engine from the NX in the IS. He told us that many people asked about it, and there is a chance that it is going to happen but nothing was confirmed. I did that with all the other brands we looked into, all their answers were a bit vague with the upcoming changes. I can understand that maybe they don't want to be held accountable if things ended up been different, but either way with that information we knew that maybe we should wait and see.
Now my parents wants to wait for the new Mazda CX-9 for some reason. It's been almost a year since we started shopping, and honest to god, manufactures needs to slow the fuck down. At the rate they are pumping out new models and updates, I don't know when my parents are going to actual settle for something.
tl;dr: It is always a good idea to ask the dealer about any upcoming changes for the models you are interested in.
3air For reals, they come out with new models of cars faster than phones. But dealerships never know jack shit. They dont even know the suspension type in the cars that they are selling. Im sure thats not the case with every single dealership across the US but every dealer I've been to, I knew more than the salesman.
+Chris Park that's very true, but can you sell a car? How many customers walk in everyday and not buying a car. How many cars are you selling, how many is in the store. Which cars on the train here. Where's the manager that decides the bargain. How much time do you have everyday to study every car and how many hours are you on the job busying with the paperwork that seems endless. Why do your brand never let you know which new cars coming. How many hours after work can you spend with your family. How many douchebags think they know more about cars and never been on a track, or worse, never seen the interior of the car they want. Why do you even bother trying to explain to customers who's just "looking".
+Chris Park one last thing. They come out with new cars because you complained about the old one. They came out because there are competitions. They came out because you like new things. They came out because they know your a sucker for new engines that "refined". All of these cars you see comes out a fraction of a cost from their factory. People need jobs. Factory need jobs. Sales need jobs. Everybody need jobs.
My dream car, hope I can get this car
Unleash the fury turboski!!!! Unleash the fury !!!
It'd be dope if Toyota would re-introduce the Corolla XRS and put this engine in it.
LOL'd at ordering a body kit for it.
Test drove a IS200t, and it was too slow for me especially taking off it takes so long for it to build up steam, got a IS350 and love it. V6 3.5 transforms it and sounds great
I think there will be a GS200T and RC200T coming soon too. I think both of these cars will be too much weight for the 4 cylinder turbo to handle.
+manifest 73 those already been officially announced
+manifest 73 I have an rc200t , the hp is fine if you drive in manual and use the paddle shifters because then you control the shift and its pretty fast then.
good review keep it up
I've driven both the IS250 & IS350 F-sport. If I was getting an IS it would have to be a IS350; the 2.5 V6 is just bad.
However like Savage noted the IS350 feels heavy, something I didn't feel in the Cadillac ATS I tested shortly after.
I'm curious how the IS200t compares to the ATS 2.0T.
The ATS feels stronger but IS is far more refined feeling.
+savagegeese You can't compare a Cadillac to a Lexus....caddy is straight up rubbish after a few years.
Scott P Cadillac being 'rubbish', I call bs.
Yes old Devilles aren't champions of reliability but the 07~14 CTS have a strong reliability record. If Audi can now top Consumer Reports' reliability records (which in 2000 was beyond terrible), I willing to bet on Cadillac in the near future,
The 250 is a big joke
+Scott P Caddy is in a place like Buick where they are trying to re-invent but are throwing a lot of shit against the wall to get it to stick.
I love my 2014 250, 40000 miles and never a problem.
lexus needs to give people a 6 spd manual. there will always be that one guy that will buy it. it actually costs less to make one and put it in than to just put in that automatic unit. at least just make 5% of sales manual for this one, GSF and RCF as well. such great cars, but without a true manual, its pointless.
What is pointless ? Making better cars with better fuel economy ?
Try to stopwatch your gear shifting. The speed between you and an automatic gearbox can't be compaired. The time you loose is lost momentum that need to be re-accelerated.
You are mourning a dead horse. There will be less and less of those around until they disappear.
I drive manual and love doing so but you said it, "one guy", that is why they don't do it. I think I and maybe you will need to retrain to use the paddles, if its good enough for F1 drivers I guess I will accommodate.
Great review!
Manual and the ability to defeat stability control and i would buy. Reminds me of my old IS300 5 speed
+Blake Swan Nope. I need FWD for winter, and direct and port injection for reliability(like they have in IS350). Those are the biggest issues for me with this car.
randikalakmal im sorry i stopped listening after fwd. Its call winter tires. I daily my rwd coupe in wisconsin with winter tires no problem. fwd is terrible plow. DI is unreliable as the blow back creates all types of problems. Ask any BMW owner about di. That is after they unpark there car from taking up to spots and take off there sunglasses to acknowledge you. I mean it sounds like an ES350 would be perfect for you. That is fwd and di. What is tge problem?
randikalakmal And i dont mean to come across as a typical rude youtube commenter but in all seriousness, winter tires on rwd is far superior to fwd on all seasons as most people are too lazy to swap tires.
+Blake Swan I always have winter tire in my FWD car. General consensus is FWD with winter tire is better for average driver compared to winter tires with RWD. But you are a professional NASCAR driver. So have all the fun with RWD. Btw, I am from Ottawa, Canada. We have real winters here.
+randikalakmal compensate much?
I just bought my wife the IS 350 F sport. she loves it it's a great solid car. You sound like you know what your talking about . As for you sidekick, there's nothing more annoying than a uppity mechanic who puts down a 50 thousand dollar car. Let him stick to Pick Up trucks, Beer and scratching his balls. IT"S A HOT CHICK CAR !!!!!!!
onerpone damn brah, take it easy lol
Can you do a bit of a brake stand? It is a turbo car, autos are best for that since it's easier to get the turbo spooled up from a dead stop.
+Sigma Projects Yes you can and it helps but thats a bit annoying to have to do in the real world.
savagegeese I guess, that's true. Just thinking of when I'd be peggin the car would be when I'd do a brake stand on it.
Nice video ! And camera
great stuff buddy
great review!!!
I'm getting this car tomorrow, so I been watching every review known to man up here lol.
My situation is different because due to a TBI, I have a highway driving restriction. This and the Kia were top of pack with safety features like blind spots, parking, lane assist, etc. Most of the incidents I had driving after my injury I did myself.
I love that you said the car give you confidence. I wait until all cars pass before I change lanes lol.
Now my dad got the navigation package but my nuvi GPS is top of the line, free unlimited lifetime map updates, and have real traffic reports. The salesman said GPS in cars are not real time, but they real people to help you . Salesman said first year GPS service is free, so I guess I can use them if I get turned around, but my GPS does that already.
What you think of the audio system?
Audio is pretty good overall just have to ramp up treble. But Id use your Nuvi for NAV. Lexus Nav not the best. With BSM you should feel safe and the car feels smaller and more nimble.
+savagegeese
Thanks, crazy that less than 2 hours ago I tried to input address and had issues so I just called the traffic operator who brought up restaurant address for me.
Every one who drove car rave how smooth it drives.
I have to wait for my left foot petal to be installed before I finally get to drive it lol.
+blaqpirate Once it is modified and setup let me know how you settle into it and the quirks.
savagegeese
Hello, after a few hiccups I finally have the car!!! Question though. Is there any way to get parking cam added after modifications? Is it even offered on this car? I have the blind spot monitor, sensors, and back up cam, but the P button beside the blind spot button is plastic. I REALLY WANTED that feature. Its pretty different parking especially if no handicap parking spots are available. I also have to get used to the petals because they are slimmer and closer then in my previous car so I have to focus on my footing. My dad going to see if they can move my left foot petal away from the gas a little. The foot rest on the left side makes a tight squeeze for my left foot petal.
It may be me, but if you have any suggestions on the parking
Also, I cant use the car GPS. I have a no high way restriction and there's no feature that offers non high way directions. Thank God I still have my real time Garmin, which I was going to use anyway. Even though its a tight squeeze putting it in the lower left corner because the space is soo narrow/
Man, you weren't kidding. It's so friggin quiet. That motor is really ironed out. Really low redline too. Do you think it's one of those maxed out eco turbo-4 motors that has no potential for more power and performance?
I think because of the overall design, liquid intercooler and DI/port injection this motor is going to stay mostly where it's at as it was designed for smoothness and effficiency. I don't see it being dumped in a small sports car. It would be interesting to see it in a car 700lbs lighter. Maybe it would fit in FT1? It's definately their luxury eco motor for now.
+savagegeese I feel there is a lot of potential for this motor. I'm excited to see what Lexus & Toyota are going to do with the engine (there is definitely more power to be found in a turbo motor) and where they will use it on.
Do we know anything about the reliability of this new engine?
Great job !
I need help
I might be buying this car tomorrow
But I’m stuck between this and the infinity Qx30 which is a crossbreed of Mercedes and Infinity with a Mercedes’ engine
I love both but which is better
Breaking news: a luxury sedan is not a sport car.
That 1st gear sluggishness you described probably had something to do with the torque converter. Did you try brake torquing it? A lot of those automatics that were designed with smoothness as a priority seem to have a lot of initial slop. They quickly rev up to their stall speed and then take forever to actually start transmitting power.
It could have also been the fault of throttle programming. It might limit throttle blow a certain speed to take some of those high initial loads off of the drive train parts.
Brake tqing just did nothing. It definately feels programing and maybe trans related. Ton of slop.
Savagegeese....I am in a dilemma here and I need your advice. Currently I am looking for a new car and I have picked out 2 cars for that matter. A mazda 6 touring or a Lexus IS 200t F sport. Now, I am not after power but all I care for is handling and steering feel. I do not drive aggressively and neither do I plan to take my car on a track so I do not need to worry about RWD or FWD here. What I plan to do with my car is just normal city and highway driving. My question is ...between these 2 cars which would be most fun to drive when considering body roll, steering feel when going on a straight highway and maintaing speed when taking highway exits. ....now this might be the most stupid question but I would highly appreciate your response. Thanks a lot.
Vastly different cars. The Lexus is the better car, but you pay a lot more for that. RWD and overall refinement of the Lexus including sporty feeling. The 6 however has more space, better fuel economy, much more simple overall including likely cost of ownership. The 6 is more visceral because it has cabin noise and you get a manual trans option. But if you want a more solid sporty feeling (smaller car) its the IS200t.
Does the regular IS (not the F sport) have the same tire setup?
I have this car and I agree with everything you said except I think this car is good looking
Can someone please tell me how he got to sport mode plus ? I only have sport mode on the Is200t..
He's reviewing the F Sport version. Probably yours is not.
Sport + is only in the F Sport trims. Otherwise you just have sport in the basic trim levels.
so basically you'll need to change tires every year? for some decent 18 inch performance tires, that's like as much expense in tires as in gas
If you drive with any type of agression yes.
+Honey Lam Just change what tires you put on after you have to change them the first time. I would maybe ask the dealership to switch them with some different rubber if I was buying the car new.
I have this car, but I don't have a sport + mode? I have 2016 IS200T F-Sport in Obsidian Black. I feel robbed!
at the 11:20 second mark..i believe you're not pressing the pedal all the way. You would have a did a burnout if you did. My stock is200t is slow but not that slow.
from the side it looks like it's in constant nose dive. the drag coefficient is...?
How come Japanese car nowadays are less powerful and fuel efficient than euros? like the 330i from bmw makes less hp but faster 0-60 and much better fuel economy on paper, there are many more examples but the 330i and is200t is just one of them
RaphaelYC because they're tuned to last longer. Japanese cars go for reliability 1st and foremost rather than bhp and other stuff.
You can get 900 bhp out of a 2.0 Lt engine if you want...but it will last A LOT less.
Each car fits different people/needs. I had a Toyota...now I drive an E Class.
Both amazing cars for their value and what they do.
European cars use thinner parts everywhere. Allowing to make the car lighter. Because they are not meant to live over 150k miles, it is not relevant.
Those specific japanese cars are the last of their breed of "Cars made to last", and this require thicker steels and bulkier parts, everywhere. If you add those tiny weights, component by component, they will always be a few houndred pounds heavier.
FOr the fuel efficiency, we just had Mercedes, Porsche, Audi and Volkswagen that where caught red handed, cheating on their emissions. BMW was already caught for vastely under estimating their fuel consumption datas. So, as you can see, there is also a problem here. Maybe Lexus could overpass the fabricated numbers of the germans with a little bit of imagination, but they will not go on this terrain.
yes I do have the 255/35R18
Could that delay he was talking about be turbo lag?
An awesome review! I’m convinced, it’s what I think I want. Coming from a Nissan xtrail 2.5 and being a 58 year old female. I just gotta get a good price selling my Ti with All the bells and whistles in he private market. Wish me luck guys!
Nothing like building a sports car and putting a rev limiter in it. It might not be so annoying if you stopped revving the motor until it falls on its face every time.
My girlfriend wanted me to choose between IS200t, IS350, C300, or 328i for her. I personally drive an E46 325i. So I went ahead and test drove all of the above, and I liked the interior and overall design of lexus more. But guess what, exactly like the reviewers pointed, there is a lag when you wanna accelerate, and believe me its not only in launch, its basically every time you press the throttle, there will be a couple of seconds of no action. I thought that was pretty unimpressive, and went with 328i, now the 328i really does show the power of turbos. It's got this very refined drive train compared to the lexus.
Thanks for the feeback on that!
+Jalil Waiz how many times has it been in the shop now?
No problems at all so far. Only scheduled maintenance. Also its covered for the whole least term with manufacturer warranty so I don't care.
So I assume it's leased?
Daniel Son hahaha lease??
beautiful shots!! Great car!!
can u compare this Lexus is 200t with Honda accord 2.0..
If only they would make a turbo for the 3.5L. Shit would be real..
Why you didn't get the 350???
Get your hands on the lexus RCF
lol geese is too much. every video is like an episode of law and order. great stuff. (gavel sound)
About the 140 treadwear... Hmm... I don't trust Bridgestone treadwear ratings IMO. They are all over the place. No way the RE71R is really 200 treadwear for example. For example the RE050A was rated at 140 but is a much, much harder tyre than the RE71R.
What does this do in the 1/4 mile?
Do u recommend this or the mercedes c 180?
what about IS300H ? How is it?
Can someone please explain the “turbo lag” on this car? He demonstrates it twice at a full stop but the car seems to respond normally right away from when he hits the gas (just going off the audio). He makes it sound like nothing happens but is he expecting like a thrust in speed like a true sports car?
0-2000 rpms the car moves slowly, then after 2000 rpms you feel the rush of torque from the turbo
soooo, this or 2015 is350?
This car is like my wet dream, I would wax the shit out of this and show it off
I hate this car. It probably has 300 pounds worth of sound deadening in it. It is the main reason why there has been such a leash on the FRS/BRZ.
The t4 seems to have good top end. Something almost all the other t4's lack. I would have zero fear about owning one for 10 years. To little to late. The original Is should have been a 2800 pound turbo 4 instead of the 3200 pound v6 powered pillow we got in the states.
i feel the new gt86 well have this 2.0L turbo ;)
+Naji Humadi no.
no.
Nope lol
Still no.
Treadwear rating doesnt mean anything.
My IS300h F-Sport has these tyres, its run 10k miles and still has 5mm left?!
Please do first generation IS/Altezza 🙏
2.0L turbo F model please.
can it drift?
This engine should have been given to the toyota/scion brands, the highest ranks of course like the high end xrs corolla to the "cheap" avalon and the only scion should have been the TC with the new face lift. and different tunes, for the corolla it should be a 200ish tune, avalon a 210-215 and for the tc it should have been a 235-250. and then the lexus brand should have been v6 real small displacement and single or twin turbos. I really hate that my favorite brand of car is soo behind on the trends and power to weight in respects to performance.
Do All IS200's have those 120 treadwear tires? Or just the F-Sport?
Probably just the F-sport. Not sure why 120 tread wear is even an option for a mass market car. Hell, I think 300's are pretty low for an everyday driver tire.
Can you do a review on the CT200
Damn us vw/Audi owners are spoiled with dsg
Hello, I couldnt understand the part about those tires, what does it mean its a completely waste?And why does it make no sense on anycar?
+浅龟沢之助 Because the treadwear rating is 140. Lower than most track day tires. Be lucky to get 12k miles out of them.
Lol thx for reply. So will it last longer if I only drive in city?
why is it so much slower than the N20 in the bmw 328i to 60? i mean they both got 8 speeds and both weight pretty much the same
I thought is 300 replace the current is 250 f sport is tht right? and can you please advice me what should I do for tires (
the IS300 replaces the IS250 AWD, the IS200t replaces the IS250 RWD
Looks like it gets stuck at 2rpm in first gear.
Lol "its so quite it makes wonder if it's even ahn???"
Lol, that SUV on track ahead!
you obviously haven tried the hybrid ...you will hate the cvt
Noticed the pre-production engine cover? No grain in moulding yet, just plain smooth plastic
About that lag... Drive by wire throttle combined with Turbo lag.... =
I love it❤
For the same money the CLA 250 with options just looks like a better buy. Just my opinion. Or wait a year and get an IS200t Used for less than a used CLA 250.
Test drive a CLA it feels like an old Honda civic with a Mercedes badge.
CLA's are for people that can't afford Mercedes but have to have some junk with a badge on it.
Still would have a BMW 320i over this. I know people might think that the 200t really competes with the 328i, it just doesn't. Look at the performance figures of the BMW 320i and 328i and you'll realize that the 320i is just as fast if not faster than this is200t and the 328i is as fast as the is350.
Paras Kalra 320i is ugly
+SAVAGEGEESE, or goose if you don't mind. what are you thoughts for someone looking at this vs the is350 f sport?
Scott and I said same thing. If you have money IS350 all the way. Has just enough grunt and sport along with some good v6 sound all while being smooth.
Hey, Scott said 'aluminium'. He speaks English !!
boost = betterlike what I am seeing.