3:03 A tip from a Racing game fanatic, Take the left stick and push it forward, then roll it along the top side to side. You can turn way better like that, it's more accurate and it's easier on the thumb.
For the most part 8bitdo has amazing directional pads. Most of their controllers that I have are pretty great and still kicking except for one of my SNES controllers that need rubber replacements.
I wish they would make wireless Xbox controllers! I have heard Xbox has strict wireless licensing, but wired is just not feasible for my setup. I have several 8bitdo controllers for Switch, and would love a Pro 2 wireless for 2D Xbox games
Especially for those licensed deals. I get that you don't want every cheap controller being used, but at least give it out to license partners as long as the msrp isn't too low.
It's scuf that's the problem not microsoft. Scuf owns a bunch of controller patents and you have to license things from them. Microsoft had to pay scuf royalties to make the elite controllers.
@@Winverd That is awesome! I just did a quick search; I imagine it is basically a glorified Bluetooth receiver, and the Xbox will see it as a wired controller. Can you confirm it works with 8bitdo controllers? They weren't listed from what I saw, so I do not want to risk $45 unless someone has tried it. EDIT: Found an Amazon review stating it does work! The caveat is that they said the 8bitdo has to be in Switch mode, so it doesn't register analog triggers. Not an issue for me and my uses (I have an Xbox Elite for 3D games and games that require analog R2/L2). Thanks for the recommendation!
Biggest question most of us were looking for is what's the polling rate on the device........main reason most fps guys got for powerA controller and the Playstation controllers on pc is the massively reduced response time they offer when in comparison to the massive input delay of the Xbox controllers due to their abysmal polling rate
I would love a 1 week or even a 1 month review of this controller. It’s cheaper than a regular xbox controller so stick drift and mushy buttons over time is of high concern for me
yea and since wired then you need to a whole new controller if wire keeps acting up and not working unlike the normal xbox controller where you can replace the wire at any time
I bought a Pro + controller more than 2 years ago. I use it on PC and Nintendo Switch. And it still working great. No drift, and barely mushy buttons. But to be honest, a year ago I've been rotating it's use with a newer Pro 2 controller -which also feels great.
I've got the Pro 2 for Xbox and it's good. I've had this one pre-ordered for a while as I prefer the offset sticks. The great thing about either this one or the Pro 2 is that you get back paddles without having to spend a stupid amount of money as with other controllers with back paddles.
My ultimate dream controller would definitely add the swappable thumbsticks with different hights (btw you can buy these for the regular xbox controller no need there for the expensive one) and the A, B, Y, X buttons with small e-ink displays so you can swap them in the software for the PlayStation shapes or the Nintendo layout. Would be awesome for emulation.
The e-ink part sounds very complicated to implement, but you gave me a new dream to get sad about as it will probably never happen. I would just add great softwware with remapping and deadzone and sensivity for both sticks and dpad, also a pivoted dpad like the genesis/mega drive, triggers that can be set as longer analog or short/instant digital and gyro as some pads omit those, also lastly two extra face buttons along with the four right ones (so you can use it for fighting games).
You may want to disable the deadzone if you are using something like Joystick Gremlin to set custom curves. I turn off deadzones where I can because of this. I am on PC, and I use the XBOX Elite 2 controller, as well as a VKB flight stick and Virpil throttle. All three use custom curve maps for any of the analog axis.
Great video. I ordered one of these today and I'm super excited! I wanted an awesome wired analog controller that also had a good D-pad for retro beatemups and fighters. You covered every one of my concerns.
I will always prefer wired over wireless. Wired will always be faster when it comes to input. Its gotten closer with wireless but it'll never be perfect. When I'm dealing with online lag I dont need anything else adding the smallest bit of lag.
untrue.. if you compare series controller dongle is 6ms, wire is 7ms, bt is 12. If you look at dualshock 4, wired is 10ms, bt is 3ms. dualsense wired 7ms / bt 4ms.
@@BeHappyTo were did you find that? I'm pretty sure it's Physically impossible for a wireless signal to be faster then a wired one. A wireless signal has to go through more steps then a wired to get to the receiver. A wireless signal has to be coded then transmitted the received before an action happens. Wired is a direct with less signal degradation.
Can you make a video of the current state of your controller please? With the same programme that allows you to check if it has drift or any other problem
does the regular non xbox Pro 2 controllers have 4 vibration motors like this new controller? I mean, one for each of the trigger buttons? If they dont, does the Pro 2 for xbox controller have those vibration motors behind each trigger button?
I don't know if mine is broken but the sticks move so weirdly and they move on their own,if i unplug and plug It back into the console or the PC they start to work normally again but when i shut down my console and start it back again the sticks go back to being crazy again,i noticed that if i update the firmware they work fine as well but again when i shut down the controller or the console even if i updated the firmware and it worked fine, when i start it back again the sticks go back to being crazy,can you tell me if yours do It too or its just mine that Is defective and needs to be replaced?
I've always preferred the Playstation controller layout over X-Box. I have short thumbs so reaching for the d-pad is easier on the PS controller but the analog stick can be pushed to the right with a shorter reach.
@@koffing2073 On the other hand I don't like the direction buttons on the PS controller. I'd rather have a single piece d-pad like Nintendo and X-Box use. I also don't like the grip texture on my latest X-Box controller as it feels like sandpaper on my fingertips. I'm picky but can't find an ideal controller.
It would be nice if they could offer a ps layout as well for those that prefer it, I don’t mind either layout, but I have big hands and a ps controller can be a little awkward for me.
My main issue with most controllers right now is that they aren’t long term reliable. Tried the PowerA wired and both times the left trigger died. Tried the Amazon version, same thing. Series controllers, right bumper or stick drift, within 6 months. Friend bought me a custom colored one, died a couple weeks after 3 month warranty ended. MS said too bad, so sad. So if this thing is durable, it’s a distinct option as suddenly I don’t need to worry about batteries anymore.
Awesome review as always PRIME! I do want to ask about the ergonomics, does it feel more like a series ( encourages you to rest your index fingers in triggers) or dual sense controller( encourages you to rest your index fingers on shoulder buttons)? Dual sense feels better for more heavy use on the shoulder buttons then the Xbox, is why I ask.
For anyone wondering normal Xbox controllers have 4 motors (as someone who repairs them) so far it only seems like a remappable wired controller if this cost as must as a used Xbox series 2 controller is buy one of them
I positively love 8BitDo wireless controllers. I like almost everything about this one. If it had a detachable USB C cord, I would have pre-ordered it. As it is, I may pass in the hopes a wireless Xbox controller from 8BitDo is in the works for the future.
Interesting D-pad, if it's good for VS fighting games like NRS game, i might buy it. Thx for the video. Dead-zone option may help with that kind of games where you want very specific input, like for example in fighting games with special moves. Let's say you want to do a shoryuken, with a high dead-zone sensibility, you may end up crouching before the end of the input because it's too sensitive and a hadoken instead or even worse, jumping. That's why ppl usually go with D-pad for fighting games, to avoid incorrect input and to be more precise.
i have 2 8bitdo controllers. i like them, but they both broke within a few months of use. the rubber and sticks wore out fast. and ordering replacements is too much of a hassle in my country. i wonder if they improved the quality with this one.
@@Jucelegario i'm not sure what you mean. but if you're talking about the internals. they're pretty much the same as the pro+, with very minor differences.
I love wired controllers but wires have been my nemesis all my life. As much as I try to not twist, pulling, or bending them, they always end up malfunctioning down the line. I’ve bought like 4 PSVITA charging cables and the last one lasted less than a year. This controller not having replaceable wires make me very nervous lol.
just don't know why they just don't put 2 more buttons on the right thumb section, to allow us to play sega and n64 games mor natively... no controller on 8bitdo has that...
Waiting on the review of the non xbox one that is going to release on the 28 (next week) the wired version with hall effect sticks it's going to be a good buy for the price it has.
i noticed you either give full throttle or full break when turning in racing games, i know it can be hard to give half throttle but here's a tip: you can also just release throttle without using the breaks, most arcade racers will allow your car to turn fine just by doing that
will definitely get this controller as replacement for my 8bitdo SN30 pro+, the connectivity on it is failing me lately had to keep using it wired for PC.
when the button rubber membrane tore (while I was cleaning it so it was my fault) in my pro plus they mailed me two new membranes for free. love their customer service
I still wish they'd build a wireless Duke controller... Also Linux compatibility is starting to get important, although I'm pretty sure steam can recognize most controllers
Any fellow weirdos out there that were brought up by conditioning from playing FPSs and Mech games on Saturn and N64 that grew so accustomed to using the right side of the gamepad for movement that you now use the "Lefty" stick layout (right sick for movement, left for aiming)? I am so grateful for the swap sticks ability in most shooters nowadays, and for those that don't have it inbuilt *coughCyberpunkcough* , I'm grateful for the ability to do it from modern console [and PC] settings.
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Their making a Bluetooth/2.4ghz ver, but apparently it only works on the switch for Bluetooth and the 2.4 for windows.. what’s the point for $70.. Even if you find a wait to connect the Bluetooth mode to let’s say a phone or he steam deck, the triggers will register as a digital input instead of analog
Funny, in 2022 we are excited about going wired lol, I might pick one of these up and give it a shot, just hope my dog doesn’t walk past and pull the cord out on me while I’m deep in battle!
All well and good, but what about the d-pad if you want to play retro? Diagonals on these types of controllers on d-pad are usually a nightmare, but very much needed for certain games, especially stuff like Street Fighter and Zelda.
I'm more concerned with stick drift, I did see an interesting looking controller for the switch/pc using hall effect sticks. I dont know about longevity or if it will get licensed to an xbox 3rd party manufacturer but I still have hope
@@jamiem2494 true mine moves on his own and have to plug and unplug It from my console to fix It,its even worse than Stick drift, don't know if only mine Is faulty or are all like this ...
8Bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth Controller is also available for preorder and it will use hall effect sticks! It's the same as this, but wireless. It works with Switch and PC, but I'm not sure about other platforms. I reckon if you plug in their wireless dongle it might work with Xbox and Play Station, maybe someone with older 8bitdo controller might confirm or deny it...
Got this controller. I want to use the back buttons, but everytime i assign the buttons, the app tells me to press the 8bitdo button, i do, but it does nothing, and the assigned back buttons don't stay assigned
ETA maybe you can test this. I've speculated the 'Disable Deadzone' exists because with certain emulators, such as the dolphin emulator, can have their 'deadzone' settings negated by other third party software. I experienced this when using the program 'Xpadder' with my (now dead) xbox 360 controller. both sticks had terrible drift which i compensated for in the dolphin emulator settings, they returned after I accidently left xpadder running which use when steam presets don't cut it.
I am watching be ause of the community post about the Bluetooth version with Hal Joysticks. It intruiges me, but I have the GamePass controller from them nd it's giving crazy issues, customer service was less than useful by basically telling me bad luck.
I cant seem to get mine to work with the pi 4. The led light just keeps blinking and doesn't go solid and no input works. I have Lakka installed running retroarch
I don't know if mine is broken but the sticks move so weirdly and they move on their own,if i unplug and plug It back into the console or the PC they start to work normally again but when i shut down my console and start it back again the sticks go back to being crazy again,i noticed that if i update the firmware they work fine as well but again when i shut down the controller or the console even if i updated the firmware and it worked fine, when i start it back again the sticks go back to being crazy,can you tell me if yours do It too or its just mine that Is defective and needs to be replaced?
@@tempestzz5682 I can't help you with that, since I own no console and use it exclusively on my desktop PC. I Also only run Linux, and the Xbox generic driver for Linux is community based, so both the analog and the Dpad on the controller works absolutely well. Funny thing is, I used to use my SN30 from 8bitdo on Windows, and when playing retro fighting games, and pressing up, (to jump) the characters would often jump BACKWARDS. LOL. (This doesn't happen with Linux) I think official Microsoft drivers don't like 8bitdo controllers very much.
Looking at getting this for my XBX, I've sent back my controller that came with my series x 3x till now under warranty. 1st time RB button stopped working. I looked online for a fix found the blow into RB button, that fixed it for 10 secs then it stopped working. Received my 2nd controller, that had loud click when I press RT button. Got my third and now down d pad not working properly. If my fourth has issues I will request a refund from Microsoft. VERY Disappointed with microsofts qc. My old Xbox controller still working perfectly fine after 12 years
Bought a year ago. Used sporadically for half a year. Pros: customizable button mapping and additional profiles, two rear buttons, microphone mute and profile buttons, the ability to disable dead zone, which improves responsiveness in games where dead zones cannot be adjusted. Cons: When connected to Xbox, analog sticks often need calibration (it has been this way from the beginning), drift in the right stick has started to appear even after calibration, causing involuntary camera movements in games, such as when aiming, which disqualifies this controller and all of its advantages, poor analog stick quality; someone who plays all day would probably wear it out in a month.
I have an important question i hope u can help me with. Can you map multiple buttons to one button. For example if i wanted the RB shoulder button to represent the A and B button respectively is that possible?
Also with the customization on the sticks it's probably like that so if the game does its own settings for dead zones and stick sensitivity like halo mcc
i have a question so is there like 2 version of the ultimate wired for xbox? there is one with the 8bitdo home button and the xbox home button, the 8bitdo one is like 10 USD cheaper than the xbox. is there any real difference between the two of them?
Nice controller overall. Wanted to love it but rumble was all screwed up and unevern on both sides. Sent it back for replacement (Amazon). Same problem. I'll try again in a year after 1st generation are either sold or fixed. Too bad. :(
Does Steam recognise this as a regular or elite controller? Ivr previously owned Power A controllers and whilst the Spectra was recognised as an Elite controller (meaning I could remap the share button through Steams own configuration tool) the older Enhanced models were only refinished as standard controllers leaving me with an uneasable button.
Will this be recognized as a Xbox controller on PC? Like if I get game pass can I use it for Forza? I got told that game required a Xbox controller as connect a PS4 one did nothing
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3:03 A tip from a Racing game fanatic, Take the left stick and push it forward, then roll it along the top side to side. You can turn way better like that, it's more accurate and it's easier on the thumb.
For the most part 8bitdo has amazing directional pads. Most of their controllers that I have are pretty great and still kicking except for one of my SNES controllers that need rubber replacements.
Just an FYI: you can buy the rubber membranes from 8bitdo. It took like 2 months to get to the US, but I was able to repair my original SN30 Pro Plus
Yeah, i just wish they went back to having good input lag
@@mat_max It's no different than any other wireless controller as far as I can tell.
I wish they would make wireless Xbox controllers! I have heard Xbox has strict wireless licensing, but wired is just not feasible for my setup. I have several 8bitdo controllers for Switch, and would love a Pro 2 wireless for 2D Xbox games
Especially for those licensed deals. I get that you don't want every cheap controller being used, but at least give it out to license partners as long as the msrp isn't too low.
Check out the Brook Wingman XB and you can use your existing 8bitdo controllers on any xbox console.
It's scuf that's the problem not microsoft. Scuf owns a bunch of controller patents and you have to license things from them. Microsoft had to pay scuf royalties to make the elite controllers.
@@Winverd That is awesome! I just did a quick search; I imagine it is basically a glorified Bluetooth receiver, and the Xbox will see it as a wired controller. Can you confirm it works with 8bitdo controllers? They weren't listed from what I saw, so I do not want to risk $45 unless someone has tried it.
EDIT: Found an Amazon review stating it does work! The caveat is that they said the 8bitdo has to be in Switch mode, so it doesn't register analog triggers. Not an issue for me and my uses (I have an Xbox Elite for 3D games and games that require analog R2/L2). Thanks for the recommendation!
@@RoccoCusumano I think that may have been addressed in a recent firmware update, i might be able to check later and confirm.
Biggest question most of us were looking for is what's the polling rate on the device........main reason most fps guys got for powerA controller and the Playstation controllers on pc is the massively reduced response time they offer when in comparison to the massive input delay of the Xbox controllers due to their abysmal polling rate
I would love a 1 week or even a 1 month review of this controller. It’s cheaper than a regular xbox controller so stick drift and mushy buttons over time is of high concern for me
yea and since wired then you need to a whole new controller if wire keeps acting up and not working unlike the normal xbox controller where you can replace the wire at any time
@@azurekite3870 pretty sure they will release a wireless version at some point not labeled as official xbox one that will cost like 5 bucks more
I don't know about this, but the 8bitdo that I use for my switch has lasted longer than the official controllers, though I guess that's a low bar.
I bought a Pro + controller more than 2 years ago. I use it on PC and Nintendo Switch. And it still working great. No drift, and barely mushy buttons.
But to be honest, a year ago I've been rotating it's use with a newer Pro 2 controller -which also feels great.
Unlike the official controller, at least 8BitDo and PDP allow you to customize deadzone settings.
I've got the Pro 2 for Xbox and it's good. I've had this one pre-ordered for a while as I prefer the offset sticks. The great thing about either this one or the Pro 2 is that you get back paddles without having to spend a stupid amount of money as with other controllers with back paddles.
Pro 2 is wireless for pc/Android/mac/iphone... and it doesn't work on xbox dude what are you talking about !!!
@@kamm3021 pretty sure it works with a usb stick accessory
@@kamm3021 there is a wired pro 2 with xbox button
@@kamm3021 Pro 2 for Xbox(wired) Has a stick layout like a playstation controller.
@@kamm3021 also shouldn’t default pro 2 work with xbox via Bluetooth using xinput mode?
My ultimate dream controller would definitely add the swappable thumbsticks with different hights (btw you can buy these for the regular xbox controller no need there for the expensive one) and the A, B, Y, X buttons with small e-ink displays so you can swap them in the software for the PlayStation shapes or the Nintendo layout. Would be awesome for emulation.
The e-ink part sounds very complicated to implement, but you gave me a new dream to get sad about as it will probably never happen.
I would just add great softwware with remapping and deadzone and sensivity for both sticks and dpad, also a pivoted dpad like the genesis/mega drive, triggers that can be set as longer analog or short/instant digital and gyro as some pads omit those, also lastly two extra face buttons along with the four right ones (so you can use it for fighting games).
I just wish their firmware tools would also run on Linux, after all it’s on the rise for gaming big time.
I have a bricked 8BitDo controller and the only two computers I have are a Steam Deck and my Android phone...
On the rise?
@@chanderule605 Steam Deck.
@@TheAbsol7448 How many people have installed linux on their desktops?
@@chanderule605 I'm sure it's influenced a fair number of people into doing that.
You may want to disable the deadzone if you are using something like Joystick Gremlin to set custom curves. I turn off deadzones where I can because of this. I am on PC, and I use the XBOX Elite 2 controller, as well as a VKB flight stick and Virpil throttle. All three use custom curve maps for any of the analog axis.
Great video. I ordered one of these today and I'm super excited! I wanted an awesome wired analog controller that also had a good D-pad for retro beatemups and fighters. You covered every one of my concerns.
What’s your opinion on the controller?
@@TJuice1986 Stick drift problems
I will always prefer wired over wireless. Wired will always be faster when it comes to input. Its gotten closer with wireless but it'll never be perfect. When I'm dealing with online lag I dont need anything else adding the smallest bit of lag.
8bitdo's wireless controllers also work in wired mode. I much prefer the flexibility of that.
not necessary, some very old hardware have bigger latency than recent bluetooth controllers, I know its surprising
untrue.. if you compare series controller dongle is 6ms, wire is 7ms, bt is 12. If you look at dualshock 4, wired is 10ms, bt is 3ms. dualsense wired 7ms / bt 4ms.
@@BeHappyTo were did you find that? I'm pretty sure it's Physically impossible for a wireless signal to be faster then a wired one. A wireless signal has to go through more steps then a wired to get to the receiver. A wireless signal has to be coded then transmitted the received before an action happens. Wired is a direct with less signal degradation.
@@mechanicalmonk2020 if my pc doesn't have bluetooth, can i use bluetooth dongle from another brand?
Can you make a video of the current state of your controller please? With the same programme that allows you to check if it has drift or any other problem
Great video as always. The Pro 2 Wired can change volume and balance between chat/game audio. So does this one?
To tell you the truth I’m not sure. I’ve always just used in game mixer. When I get home I’ll test it out
does the regular non xbox Pro 2 controllers have 4 vibration motors like this new controller? I mean, one for each of the trigger buttons? If they dont, does the Pro 2 for xbox controller have those vibration motors behind each trigger button?
Looking forward to se a "versus" between this one and the Pro 2 from the same company. Any opinions on this are welcome.
I do love their controllers, I currently use the 8BitDo pro 2. I was gonna get this one but, it doesn't have macro support.
What’s a macro function?
I already have it and after trying it, I have to say that it is a good recommendation for the possibilities it has.
I don't know if mine is broken but the sticks move so weirdly and they move on their own,if i unplug and plug It back into the console or the PC they start to work normally again but when i shut down my console and start it back again the sticks go back to being crazy again,i noticed that if i update the firmware they work fine as well but again when i shut down the controller or the console even if i updated the firmware and it worked fine, when i start it back again the sticks go back to being crazy,can you tell me if yours do It too or its just mine that Is defective and needs to be replaced?
hey how is the controller holding up after months? Any drifting?
I'd love to see a return to ABCXYZ 6-button controllers instead of the ABXY 4-button controllers.
Those controllers are the reason a lot of people didn't try the genesis back in the day, we only have 2 thumbs...
I use fingers on the buttons like with an arcade machine.
@@williambills3260 ...and Sega Genesis, Sega Saturn, N64. I should probably just buy a Brawler64 USB and move on with my life.
I would love to have a controller like this that has a 3 over 3 button config. I love the 3 over 3 for arcade stuff and Street fighter and K I
I've always preferred the Playstation controller layout over X-Box. I have short thumbs so reaching for the d-pad is easier on the PS controller but the analog stick can be pushed to the right with a shorter reach.
of-course since PS controller are based on the SNES but with a crippled dpad and ergonomic handle, xbox controllers are designed for 3D games
@@koffing2073 On the other hand I don't like the direction buttons on the PS controller. I'd rather have a single piece d-pad like Nintendo and X-Box use. I also don't like the grip texture on my latest X-Box controller as it feels like sandpaper on my fingertips. I'm picky but can't find an ideal controller.
It would be nice if they could offer a ps layout as well for those that prefer it, I don’t mind either layout, but I have big hands and a ps controller can be a little awkward for me.
@@NexGen-3D Or better yet a modular design that can be changed.
@@davidwiley4953 That exists already, its wired too, but over priced, the Thrustmaster eSwap
To be honest I wasn’t interested on buying a new controller but after your review I changed my mind. I want one now. It looks amazing.
Looks like a cheap knockoff Xbox Series controller lmao
@@DrRespectful cry about it
@@Phraqzy I'm not crying at all I'm laughing my a** off.
My main issue with most controllers right now is that they aren’t long term reliable. Tried the PowerA wired and both times the left trigger died. Tried the Amazon version, same thing. Series controllers, right bumper or stick drift, within 6 months. Friend bought me a custom colored one, died a couple weeks after 3 month warranty ended. MS said too bad, so sad.
So if this thing is durable, it’s a distinct option as suddenly I don’t need to worry about batteries anymore.
i have Pro 2 and it still works like a charma for my pc, switch, and android needs
8bitdo really know their stuff
Awesome review as always PRIME! I do want to ask about the ergonomics, does it feel more like a series ( encourages you to rest your index fingers in triggers) or dual sense controller( encourages you to rest your index fingers on shoulder buttons)? Dual sense feels better for more heavy use on the shoulder buttons then the Xbox, is why I ask.
This is the Xbox controller I like in PS4 layout! Wil it work on the emulators, like pcsx2 and dolphin?
Yes, any pc controller will work.
@@MFSGamePlay Thanks!
For anyone wondering normal Xbox controllers have 4 motors (as someone who repairs them) so far it only seems like a remappable wired controller if this cost as must as a used Xbox series 2 controller is buy one of them
How are the triggers response and feel for FPS games like COD?
This seems very similar to the HORI PAD Pro, which is another great controller.
I positively love 8BitDo wireless controllers. I like almost everything about this one. If it had a detachable USB C cord, I would have pre-ordered it.
As it is, I may pass in the hopes a wireless Xbox controller from 8BitDo is in the works for the future.
I wish the cable was detachable, Just so can use a shorter cable.
i have a bunch of 8bitdo controllers for emulation. my 11 yr old daughter loves the SN30 so i got her one. now she wants another lol.
Will purchase but just to know… can you use it with Nintendo?
Interesting D-pad, if it's good for VS fighting games like NRS game, i might buy it. Thx for the video.
Dead-zone option may help with that kind of games where you want very specific input, like for example in fighting games with special moves.
Let's say you want to do a shoryuken, with a high dead-zone sensibility, you may end up crouching before the end of the input because it's too sensitive and a hadoken instead or even worse, jumping.
That's why ppl usually go with D-pad for fighting games, to avoid incorrect input and to be more precise.
Apart from differences in form-factor, is this different from the 8BitDo Pro 2 wired controller?
i have 2 8bitdo controllers. i like them, but they both broke within a few months of use. the rubber and sticks wore out fast. and ordering replacements is too much of a hassle in my country. i wonder if they improved the quality with this one.
True. The bumpers wear out real quick specially when I played Sekiro and fighting games with one controller.
wait, I have a question, does the Pro 2 have 4 vibration motors like this new controller? I mean, one for each of the trigger buttons?
@@Jucelegario i'm not sure what you mean. but if you're talking about the internals. they're pretty much the same as the pro+, with very minor differences.
Same. I wore mine out in about 8 months. I still have PS2 controllers from way back in tip-top shape so its probably not me.
It is interesting that game controllers have been pretty much solved except for if you put the left analog stick in the upper or lower section.
Latency? hall effect analogs? analog tensions?
I honestly want to see 8bitdo PS4 controller as I'm a fan of their controllers.
I love wired controllers but wires have been my nemesis all my life. As much as I try to not twist, pulling, or bending them, they always end up malfunctioning down the line. I’ve bought like 4 PSVITA charging cables and the last one lasted less than a year. This controller not having replaceable wires make me very nervous lol.
is a good wire honestly
also you could always add extra homemade protection to the cable
just don't know why they just don't put 2 more buttons on the right thumb section, to allow us to play sega and n64 games mor natively... no controller on 8bitdo has that...
No vibrations, no dead zone and short trigger travel is a good profile for FPS games. Might cop this one tho.
yes vibration
Waiting on the review of the non xbox one that is going to release on the 28 (next week) the wired version with hall effect sticks it's going to be a good buy for the price it has.
Damn that a good controller, I just bought ipega 9129 but can't do special moves with d-pad like you did 😔
8:17 some games have built in dead zone sliders, it's probably for fine tuning for high level players
i noticed you either give full throttle or full break when turning in racing games, i know it can be hard to give half throttle but here's a tip: you can also just release throttle without using the breaks, most arcade racers will allow your car to turn fine just by doing that
Top , lo uso da diversi giorni sulla mia Xbox x , tutto ok , ottimo controller , speriamo duri a lungo !
will definitely get this controller as replacement for my 8bitdo SN30 pro+, the connectivity on it is failing me lately had to keep using it wired for PC.
look at that dpad and shoulder buttons!!! I need this!
when the button rubber membrane tore (while I was cleaning it so it was my fault) in my pro plus they mailed me two new membranes for free. love their customer service
I'm so Triggered with these Triggers xD Nice Controller
I still wish they'd build a wireless Duke controller... Also Linux compatibility is starting to get important, although I'm pretty sure steam can recognize most controllers
I'm going to buy one in December,this is the perfect controller for me
Any fellow weirdos out there that were brought up by conditioning from playing FPSs and Mech games on Saturn and N64 that grew so accustomed to using the right side of the gamepad for movement that you now use the "Lefty" stick layout (right sick for movement, left for aiming)? I am so grateful for the swap sticks ability in most shooters nowadays, and for those that don't have it inbuilt *coughCyberpunkcough* , I'm grateful for the ability to do it from modern console [and PC] settings.
Deadzone is probably used for steering in racing when you need either a delay or hyper sensitive inputs for different forms of racing
Dear Eta Prime, can you give information about what specs a youtube gaming pc should be (both playing and recording gameplay video at the same time) ? do you record from your pc or do you use an external recording device ?
0:21 "that's definitely a lot of x's" lol
Their making a Bluetooth/2.4ghz ver, but apparently it only works on the switch for Bluetooth and the 2.4 for windows.. what’s the point for $70..
Even if you find a wait to connect the Bluetooth mode to let’s say a phone or he steam deck, the triggers will register as a digital input instead of analog
Funny, in 2022 we are excited about going wired lol, I might pick one of these up and give it a shot, just hope my dog doesn’t walk past and pull the cord out on me while I’m deep in battle!
i wonder if the thumbstick/jostick is the same as the bluetooth version which has a magnetic hall effect (sensor) joystick
All well and good, but what about the d-pad if you want to play retro?
Diagonals on these types of controllers on d-pad are usually a nightmare, but very much needed for certain games, especially stuff like Street Fighter and Zelda.
I'm more concerned with stick drift, I did see an interesting looking controller for the switch/pc using hall effect sticks. I dont know about longevity or if it will get licensed to an xbox 3rd party manufacturer but I still have hope
I've had the 8bitdo sn30 pro+ controller for a few years now and it's still working great.
@@jamiem2494 true mine moves on his own and have to plug and unplug It from my console to fix It,its even worse than Stick drift, don't know if only mine Is faulty or are all like this ...
8Bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth Controller is also available for preorder and it will use hall effect sticks!
It's the same as this, but wireless. It works with Switch and PC, but I'm not sure about other platforms.
I reckon if you plug in their wireless dongle it might work with Xbox and Play Station, maybe someone with older 8bitdo controller might confirm or deny it...
@@zlac it's only for switch and maybe PC...
@@tempestzz5682 Yess and android
Mine arrives today. Bought the off pink one. ☮️
Got this controller. I want to use the back buttons, but everytime i assign the buttons, the app tells me to press the 8bitdo button, i do, but it does nothing, and the assigned back buttons don't stay assigned
A wireless version of this controller would be perfect for playing cod mobile given the regular sn30 pro + controllers don't work with that game
ETA maybe you can test this. I've speculated the 'Disable Deadzone' exists because with certain emulators, such as the dolphin emulator, can have their 'deadzone' settings negated by other third party software. I experienced this when using the program 'Xpadder' with my (now dead) xbox 360 controller. both sticks had terrible drift which i compensated for in the dolphin emulator settings, they returned after I accidently left xpadder running which use when steam presets don't cut it.
Can you explain it to me? Never heard of that!
A long term update would bet great if possible!
I am watching be ause of the community post about the Bluetooth version with Hal Joysticks.
It intruiges me, but I have the GamePass controller from them nd it's giving crazy issues, customer service was less than useful by basically telling me bad luck.
Can you please test the jack/DAC audio quality ? Im tempting getting this controller, but i will use it with pretty sensitive headphones
How noisy are the buttons? The Xbox series dpad nub thing they got going on now is super clicky for instance. Personally not a fan of noisy inputs.
I have the 8BitDo Pro 2 (wireless) and I love it. The 6 axis gyro has been great for Cemu BOTW
Is the triggers sensitive or just clicks?
Mine will be here Saturday..finally a wired controller..no more battery swaps
I cant seem to get mine to work with the pi 4. The led light just keeps blinking and doesn't go solid and no input works. I have Lakka installed running retroarch
I was absolutely waiting for the release of this controller since the very moment they announced it.
I don't know if mine is broken but the sticks move so weirdly and they move on their own,if i unplug and plug It back into the console or the PC they start to work normally again but when i shut down my console and start it back again the sticks go back to being crazy again,i noticed that if i update the firmware they work fine as well but again when i shut down the controller or the console even if i updated the firmware and it worked fine, when i start it back again the sticks go back to being crazy,can you tell me if yours do It too or its just mine that Is defective and needs to be replaced?
@@tempestzz5682 I can't help you with that, since I own no console and use it exclusively on my desktop PC.
I Also only run Linux, and the Xbox generic driver for Linux is community based, so both the analog and the Dpad on the controller works absolutely well.
Funny thing is, I used to use my SN30 from 8bitdo on Windows, and when playing retro fighting games, and pressing up, (to jump) the characters would often jump BACKWARDS. LOL.
(This doesn't happen with Linux)
I think official Microsoft drivers don't like 8bitdo controllers very much.
@@CodexSanoh ok thanks for the response man.
4:20 do you really hold the controller like that ?
Anyone encounters that the LB and RB buttons are super slow and soft, which makes it so tiring to press. Is it just me?
8bitdo is really just gonna make everything but a "Pro 2" style version of the M30, huh.
Yeah that's honestly the pad I have been waiting for, I love the dpad of the M30
@@ThePalerider12 Exactly, that's what I'd call the "Ultimate" controller right there.
whats the diference from the old 8bit do xbox controller?
just the analog stick placements? (wich for me is a downgrade)
Got pastel pink, gorgeous
Is it true thta 8Bitdo use the same magnetic joysticks potentiometers and magnetic triggers that Gulikit make?
Looking at getting this for my XBX, I've sent back my controller that came with my series x 3x till now under warranty. 1st time RB button stopped working. I looked online for a fix found the blow into RB button, that fixed it for 10 secs then it stopped working. Received my 2nd controller, that had loud click when I press RT button. Got my third and now down d pad not working properly. If my fourth has issues I will request a refund from Microsoft. VERY Disappointed with microsofts qc. My old Xbox controller still working perfectly fine after 12 years
Im not saying its bad. But $44 is pretty rough for a wired controller when I could get one from a trusted name like powerA or PDP for half the price.
Exactly my thoughts
These two buttons on the back of the controller can be assigned too on PC? This is additional buttons? I didn't understood.
Bought a year ago. Used sporadically for half a year.
Pros:
customizable button mapping and additional profiles,
two rear buttons, microphone mute and profile buttons,
the ability to disable dead zone, which improves responsiveness in games where dead zones cannot be adjusted.
Cons:
When connected to Xbox, analog sticks often need calibration (it has been this way from the beginning),
drift in the right stick has started to appear even after calibration,
causing involuntary camera movements in games, such as when aiming, which disqualifies this controller and all of its advantages,
poor analog stick quality; someone who plays all day would probably wear it out in a month.
I usually play with keyboard and I only thinking getting it for Emulator games do you think should I get it?
I have an Sn30 Pro+. I like it but wish the analog sticks had more resistance. How are they on this controller?
I ordered the non-Xbox version. What's the difference? I searched a lot but could not find anything
Will it work on windows 7? Lot of ten stuff will. My high end Win10 pute died a horrible death! For now I'm stuck on older 7 puter.
I have an important question i hope u can help me with. Can you map multiple buttons to one button. For example if i wanted the RB shoulder button to represent the A and B button respectively is that possible?
Does customizing the buttons make it work to other consoles like the switch? Thanks.
Also with the customization on the sticks it's probably like that so if the game does its own settings for dead zones and stick sensitivity like halo mcc
Anyone know how to connect this to an xbox360? I have a brook converter but still can’t get it going
I bought a mayflash magic s-pro 2 adapter. You have to use both the wingman and magic-s pro 2 to get it going
My cats are like: Did he say WiReD 73 times? 👁️👁️
i have a question
so is there like 2 version of the ultimate wired for xbox? there is one with the 8bitdo home button and the xbox home button, the 8bitdo one is like 10 USD cheaper than the xbox. is there any real difference between the two of them?
Nice controller overall. Wanted to love it but rumble was all screwed up and unevern on both sides. Sent it back for replacement (Amazon). Same problem. I'll try again in a year after 1st generation are either sold or fixed. Too bad. :(
Can't wait for ETA Prime's new Impulse Trigger EDM track to drop 🤣
does this controller have the turbo buttons feature? I will be using it on PC
We both got FH5 and SSF4: AE on our home screen.
Is it worthed to get this wired version for trigger vibration or get the 2,4 wireless version with no trigger vibration? I usually play racing games
That’s definitely going to be my next controller purchase
Amazing!
Does Steam recognise this as a regular or elite controller? Ivr previously owned Power A controllers and whilst the Spectra was recognised as an Elite controller (meaning I could remap the share button through Steams own configuration tool) the older Enhanced models were only refinished as standard controllers leaving me with an uneasable button.
i've tested it. the share button dosn't work on pc.
Will this be recognized as a Xbox controller on PC?
Like if I get game pass can I use it for Forza?
I got told that game required a Xbox controller as connect a PS4 one did nothing