I’ve also refilled these kegs using a similar method but with the homebrew being in my pressurised fermenter (fermentasaurous) then transferring it into the pd keg under pressure and burping the outer bag pressure whilst it fills up. Same results but without the pump. It’s Endless what can be put in the pd kegs . It’s great to see how others do it thanks for the video👍🏻
For those that are interest in doing this. I have done something similar but without using a pump to suck out the air. I rely on gravity so in this setup if you had the same arrangement as in the video but just placed the keg on the floor with the outlet air tube open to atmosphere it would fill by itself. If you make sure the keg is pressurised first and the tube already inserted into the beer it would create the suction to get things going and then gravity takes over. I find it takes about 15 mins to fill fully. Job done!
Do you get 6 liters into the keg? There a number of ways to do it, I 1st done it by filling a bottle and squeezing it back into the keg but was a long process. Make a video, would like to see how you do it.
@@duncanswankie yes no problem filling. Sometime some air or residual gas we’ll take up some space but I get rid of that by lifting up the keg above the beer turning it upside down ( tube entry is at bottom of keg) and expelling the air back into the beer via gravity. Then put it back below the beer and allow gravity to take over again to fill it back up fully.
@@pepx3625 it's good we can fill them up and beat the system. You need to do a video so I can see if its easier than the way I do it. I just read up and made a video to help others like us
Yep great video by the way just thought I would add the option of not using a pump since I like you investigated it and found that the pump part was the most awkward bit so found a way to eliminated this. I’ll have a think about a video!
@@barryallison7051 I used a kit. I can't remember how much sugar I put it, but it was slightly less than the recommended amount. Mixed it while in the bucket , them transfered it to the keg. Hope this helps
Hi. Where did you get the silicone Hoses from? I can't seem to find anybody that does those sizes you said at the start of your video. Could you shine abit of light on this, if you would. Thanks in advanced
OK, really interesting video, thank you. Can you use one of those camping airbed pumps to suck the air out? If not, where do you get the mains adapter/wiring from for the Amazon pump? When you remove the water/sanitizer, do you need the keg inside the PD machine to pump it out, like you would with a beer? Cheers.
Thanks. A guy from my work wired up the pump for me, I dont know if a aired pump would work. The pump I used has a valve that blows too so you can swap the pipe over and dispense the water out without loading into the pd.
I used an evil dog kit, it said to use 150grams for kegging but I used 95 . Carbonation worked good but I would add more next time. There was no spoiling what's so ever
@@Harbourmaster68 the kit I used was a 23 litre but I topped up to 24 so I got 4 full kegs. I recently done a Jack mangroves grapefruit IPA it turned out lovely . I used 140gramms of sugar for the 24 liters so for 1 keg I would use 35gramms
Video is great and really informative, I currently make my own homebrew and have a keezer set up with cornys but would love to be able to add a perfect draft keg to my set up for friends who just like to drink lagers and or not keen on what I have on tap, so my question is if I was to buy the part for the top of the keg the gray bit you put the barbs in, what size is the outlet that pushes air into the keg? Would I be able to connect onto that with plumbing fittings? Any info you have would be much appreciated love the video👍
My friend thanks for thw video. I have a problem I would like some help. With the exact same setup you showed us, I cloud fill (and empty) the keg 3 times using water and sanitizer just to clean it. It took the expected 6 liters. But when I tried to fill it with regular beer, it only took 2 liters. Do you think it was the foam forming inside the bag, that filled the all bag? Any other ideas?
Have you tried to empty the keg? Was there a lot of foam in the contents coming out if you did? Is you're brew fizzy ? I've just filled my second batch, and I did notice it was going in slow, so I changed for a new hose (that comes with the kegs) and it was fine after. I could only assume there was some hops blocking the nozzle. Hope this helps, let me know how you get on.
By hearing your accent I assume you're living in the UK or Ireland? How come you have a keg of luxembourgish beer? Never thought anyone abroad would drink that. Greets from Luxembourg btw
Fill it with water and empty twice. And then I use a non rinse sanitiser called chemsan. I dilute 10ml to 5 liters of water. Fill the keg with that and empty into a bucket with a lid as it can be reused.
you might consider updating the title of the video with the correct spelling for PerfectDraft - makes it easier to find for Folks looking for this type of thing. It is also interesting to see that you drink Diekirch - I tought that was a pretty local Beer
Does the fish tank pump work as a vacume? You need to suck the air from the keg to get the bag , the good thing about the pump I use just a quick change to the other valve and you can pump the water out. If the fish tank pump can that, you would just have to get the correct reducer to fit the tube
@@duncanswankie yea I was thinking that you could just use the air inlet valve in order to suck the air from the keg. I've found a pump similar to the one you have so hoping it's the same size coupler needed. Thank for the video btw!!
I saw another video once, which I can no longer find. They managed to get 5 litre back in keg. Just gravity feed and releasing air a bit at a time. Didn't use the tap. But fed into rubber hose and plastic part that pushes into keg. They used tie wraps to stop it popping out. This required no pump or other connections.
You can also doctor up the hose where the beer comes out , fit to a plastic bottle and squeeze new beer back in, but that was a lot of effort. I found the pump was a lot easier.
I’ve also refilled these kegs using a similar method but with the homebrew being in my pressurised fermenter (fermentasaurous) then transferring it into the pd keg under pressure and burping the outer bag pressure whilst it fills up.
Same results but without the pump.
It’s Endless what can be put in the pd kegs .
It’s great to see how others do it thanks for the video👍🏻
I'd like to do more or less the same, cuould you give me some advice on how to do it ?
I'm watching this for its comedy value 😂
For those that are interest in doing this. I have done something similar but without using a pump to suck out the air. I rely on gravity so in this setup if you had the same arrangement as in the video but just placed the keg on the floor with the outlet air tube open to atmosphere it would fill by itself. If you make sure the keg is pressurised first and the tube already inserted into the beer it would create the suction to get things going and then gravity takes over. I find it takes about 15 mins to fill fully. Job done!
Also, another tip is that I operate the NRV by placing a bolt into the end and hold it into place with an elastic band. Works fine
Do you get 6 liters into the keg? There a number of ways to do it, I 1st done it by filling a bottle and squeezing it back into the keg but was a long process. Make a video, would like to see how you do it.
@@duncanswankie yes no problem filling. Sometime some air or residual gas we’ll take up some space but I get rid of that by lifting up the keg above the beer turning it upside down ( tube entry is at bottom of keg) and expelling the air back into the beer via gravity. Then put it back below the beer and allow gravity to take over again to fill it back up fully.
@@pepx3625 it's good we can fill them up and beat the system. You need to do a video so I can see if its easier than the way I do it. I just read up and made a video to help others like us
Yep great video by the way just thought I would add the option of not using a pump since I like you investigated it and found that the pump part was the most awkward bit so found a way to eliminated this. I’ll have a think about a video!
Did you prime the keg for secondary fermentation and if with what and what amount
@@barryallison7051 I used a kit. I can't remember how much sugar I put it, but it was slightly less than the recommended amount. Mixed it while in the bucket , them transfered it to the keg.
Hope this helps
great idea love it ill add it to my to do list cheers
Hi pal, how do you carbonate your lager?
Came here to ask the same question 🤣
Hi. Where did you get the silicone Hoses from? I can't seem to find anybody that does those sizes you said at the start of your video. Could you shine abit of light on this, if you would. Thanks in advanced
How does homebrew get carbonate. I
OK, really interesting video, thank you. Can you use one of those camping airbed pumps to suck the air out? If not, where do you get the mains adapter/wiring from for the Amazon pump? When you remove the water/sanitizer, do you need the keg inside the PD machine to pump it out, like you would with a beer? Cheers.
Thanks. A guy from my work wired up the pump for me, I dont know if a aired pump would work. The pump I used has a valve that blows too so you can swap the pipe over and dispense the water out without loading into the pd.
I have a pump which is used as a pressure washer which looks like that..would that work?
How did the final beer turn out when finished carbonation. Was there any spoiling?
I used an evil dog kit, it said to use 150grams for kegging but I used 95 . Carbonation worked good but I would add more next time. There was no spoiling what's so ever
@@duncanswankie Was it a 6L kit? If not, did you reduce the amount of sugar in proportion? Cheers.
@@Harbourmaster68 the kit I used was a 23 litre but I topped up to 24 so I got 4 full kegs. I recently done a Jack mangroves grapefruit IPA it turned out lovely . I used 140gramms of sugar for the 24 liters so for 1 keg I would use 35gramms
Sorry its abit shit, it's my 1st ever video
Video is great and really informative, I currently make my own homebrew and have a keezer set up with cornys but would love to be able to add a perfect draft keg to my set up for friends who just like to drink lagers and or not keen on what I have on tap, so my question is if I was to buy the part for the top of the keg the gray bit you put the barbs in, what size is the outlet that pushes air into the keg? Would I be able to connect onto that with plumbing fittings? Any info you have would be much appreciated love the video👍
Hi, great video. How do you know when the keg is full?
I used 6 liters of homebrew.
My friend thanks for thw video. I have a problem I would like some help. With the exact same setup you showed us, I cloud fill (and empty) the keg 3 times using water and sanitizer just to clean it. It took the expected 6 liters. But when I tried to fill it with regular beer, it only took 2 liters.
Do you think it was the foam forming inside the bag, that filled the all bag? Any other ideas?
Have you tried to empty the keg? Was there a lot of foam in the contents coming out if you did? Is you're brew fizzy ? I've just filled my second batch, and I did notice it was going in slow, so I changed for a new hose (that comes with the kegs) and it was fine after. I could only assume there was some hops blocking the nozzle.
Hope this helps, let me know how you get on.
did you get the answer to this as mine is doing the exact same thing...
Probably a stupid question...do you prime as usual then carb/condition in the kegs for usual amount of time as if you were bottling?
Yes, exactly. I made a kit , the kit said to use 150grams ,I used 95 but I would use the whole amount next time
Sorry to sound stupid mate. But do you cleanse keg the same way as refilling it?
Yeah, i filled with water, drain, and then used a non rinse sanitizer (chemsan) drain. Then beer
By hearing your accent I assume you're living in the UK or Ireland?
How come you have a keg of luxembourgish beer? Never thought anyone abroad would drink that.
Greets from Luxembourg btw
Hello from scotland, Yes I love continental beers .
What do you use to clean the old bag out
Fill it with water and empty twice. And then I use a non rinse sanitiser called chemsan. I dilute 10ml to 5 liters of water. Fill the keg with that and empty into a bucket with a lid as it can be reused.
you might consider updating the title of the video with the correct spelling for PerfectDraft - makes it easier to find for Folks looking for this type of thing.
It is also interesting to see that you drink Diekirch - I tought that was a pretty local Beer
Done. Well spotted
Does anyone know if a fish tank pump would work in place of the 12v pump?
Does the fish tank pump work as a vacume? You need to suck the air from the keg to get the bag , the good thing about the pump I use just a quick change to the other valve and you can pump the water out. If the fish tank pump can that, you would just have to get the correct reducer to fit the tube
@@duncanswankie yea I was thinking that you could just use the air inlet valve in order to suck the air from the keg. I've found a pump similar to the one you have so hoping it's the same size coupler needed. Thank for the video btw!!
Did you know there is little valve on the keg you press and it releases the air in the keg and will suck your beer into the bag.
Yes , but you still need to remove the air from the keg. I dont think you would be able to fill the keg fully without the pump
I saw another video once, which I can no longer find. They managed to get 5 litre back in keg. Just gravity feed and releasing air a bit at a time. Didn't use the tap. But fed into rubber hose and plastic part that pushes into keg. They used tie wraps to stop it popping out. This required no pump or other connections.
You can also doctor up the hose where the beer comes out , fit to a plastic bottle and squeeze new beer back in, but that was a lot of effort. I found the pump was a lot easier.
Perfect draught is 6 litre
@@duncanswankie I know it's 6 litre I got machine myself. Doing it that way he could get 5 litre of his homebrew in the 6 litre keg.
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If I pay you can you make me a rig
No sorry. It's easy to do. The only thing I didnt do was wire the pump. This is an easy job for an electrician if you know any
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