Affordable Luxury: Buying A Tourbillon For UNDER $1,000?!
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Thing I hate about so many skeletons is you can’t see the hands
I feel like there’s a Halloween joke in there somewhere.
3.30 " Chinese Turbillion '' really turned me off down !
Man ....Everyone hates the word China on thier goods !
@@rishikeshjadhav8651 I was really/seriously considering of buying till when I watch the video at 3:30. It just killed it, lol
Lets be honest if your getting a watch like that, you’re not gna use it to tell time.
Was this a pun
The only really impressive thing about it is the tourbillion. The rest of the watch looks...cheap.
Probably because it is. Its cheap. I think that although a big part of the pricing relys on branding, the manufacturing costs of a complication (especially a tourbillon) are higher than 1000$ for sure.
Expensive things are expensive 🤷🏻♂️
Some 50k watches look cheap
MISTER AGB i agree have you seen mayweathers watches ??? They are like half a million minimum and they look like straight china town bad taste bling watches.
@Tom Smith IF it's quality it's a loooot more expensive.
These skeleton tourbillion watches are perfect for the gym, construction site & iron man marathons! ; )
My favorite part:
The price.
My least favorite part:
The size.
Seagull manufactures tourbillons that measure between 37mm and 40mm, and they also cost around $ 1000.00. How about a review of one of them?
Where do u find them as small as 37mm? Only ones i know from them are around 41 or so. Would love to know if they have smaller ones
@@dCotnijoeb Here:
www.good-stuffs.com/Sea-Gull-tourbillon-60th-anniversary-celebration-for-Sea-Gull-staff-members_p_241.html
and here:
www.good-stuffs.com/New-Sea-Gull-tourbillon-automatic-wristwatch_p_331.html
Same company, and ofcourse excluding crown :)
@edwong3 I'm not really interested in the lunar cycles or day and night in a watch, I was referring exclusively to the tourbillon.
But it is true what you say, because having fewer complications the caliber can be smaller and therefore also the watch itself.
They use Chinese movement
@@rajendertkr yes but sea-gull have a long heritage as well. It's government owned and it more or less never had or doesn't really make knock offs. The quality is heavily regulated (cause you know government owned), and they make in house movements of which they sell to other companies, e.g. Designer brands like Fossil or more traditional watch brands like Timex.
Imagine taking in your $1k Tourbillon for servicing. They'll charge you $1500 to throw your watch in the trash and buy you a new one, then mark it up 50%.
@Dmacsimus 747 that's some bullshit. Seagull movements are fantastic for the price, and many Chinese watches are definitely worth the money.
Looks like a missed opportunity. They could have made a more refined piece, more classy, not so bright and over the top. Just my thoughts. Cheers!
Such ignorant shills in the comments. Luxury is defined by quality and craftsmanship of materials, not price. By their logic, an Invicta with a 5k price tag makes it luxurious.
LastNineBreaker Shinola = luxury then, right?
Only if they met the two criteria above. But we all know the answer to that.
How would people feel paying for a $40,000 A. Lange & Sohne made with a 10xx grade carbon steel movement instead of German silver?
Remember the outrage when Cartier tried getting away with using plastic retainer rings? The introduction of plastic suddenly made the watches a lot less luxurious in people's eyes.
If I buy a Rolls-Royce, the interior better be made with walnut/cedar veneer and full-grain bullhide, instead of plastic and leather scraps *cough*cough* Cadillac *cough*.
@@LastNineBreaker Luxury is defined by none of these.. Except for the price xD
"An inessential, desirable item which is expensive or difficult to obtain."
@testkanalvonmir I can do that to; from Merriam Webster:
"something adding to pleasure or comfort but not absolutely necessary"
The vast majority of definitions of the word doesn't include price as a category. But let's roll with it.
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Chinese made HZ3360A is not Luxury. Look around.
Ok I guess I am the odd one. Most of my collection is skeletons. I am sorry but while I love the watches usually reviewed I like ones that are out of the ordinary and this meets the bill. Love the channel and have learned a lot.
So glad I canceled my pledge for this watch and got the Waldhoff Ultramatic instead.
The watch Hands are non visible, does it even have any....LOL
I really dig the fact that’s it’s an affordable piece with a very cool complication. I would totally pick one up!
So mr. time teller...you put down tag heuer saying they’re not worth the price but advertise a China made watch that sells for 1,000 bucks? I’d rather buy a quartz tag and not pretend I’m rocking a luxury time piece✌🏻
What do you have against China?
Tengku Elzafir Habsjah Nothing. Wearing a 1,000 dollar Tourbillion made in a China factory which probably doesn’t have better quality control than Apples China factory, you know the one with the Suicide nets, just so you can pretend to be wearing a luxury piece seems dumb to me. Don’t let my opinion stop you from buying one and enjoying it 😊. I’d just rather buy something else for a grand.
Those high end luxury Swiss Made watches. To obtain the title "Swiss Made" u only need 60% of the material produce in Swiss. The other 40% could be manufactured in China or somewhere in Asia. So I suggest not underestimating China's manufacture.
BRUHHH PLS there is no “high end luxury Swiss watch” with any parts from China in it my guy. Unless you have a different definition of high end luxury than the rest of us. I don’t consider Tag Aqua Racer a high end luxury time piece, just rather have it over a Chinese tourbillion lol
Look into their claims of being the first tourbillon under $1,000. Doing a Google search brings up the same movement in other brands at lower prices in a watch blog. I was seriously considering buying the Era Prometheus but not sure everything they claim on their site is 100%. I have been waiting for this review by someone lol but I was hoping you hit the points on what they are claiming. Thanks for the video and closer look - just subscribed. (I love skeleton watches - I'm an engineer)
If everyone did their research before buying something as you did, company such as these would not last 5 minutes.
I laughed out loud at this review! Thanks for making my Monday night!
Pretty sure it doesn't have a moonphase mechanism as the maker specifies Sun/Moon Time of Day complication which is just showing AM/PM.
I absolutely adore watches like these and I’ve always wanted one of my own. Skeleton watches just fascinate me with their movement. Unfortunately, as I am a lady I’ve feared that a watch like that would be too...gaudy? I don’t want it to seem like I’m trying to show off. I’m 5’1” and not going to grow any further, and as such my wrists are rather small. As much as I prefer the look of men’s watches, especially skeleton watches like that, I don’t think I could wear one on my wrist without it looking a bit obnoxious. The watch itself is lovely nevertheless.
Wear that watch, girl! Do you! If they think you're showing off, tell them "damn right, I'm fabulous!"
It feels good to look good, and your style is decided by you and you alone. Also, they do make smaller skeleton watches, though it tends to be a smaller selection and potentially more expensive on average just because the construction of a smaller mechanical watch is more difficult than that or a larger one.
Your wrist
Your money
Your choice
Wear whatever you like as long as it is original. 👍👍👍
You are hands down one of the most entertaining watch youtubers I've started watching, love the personality...putting a fun spin into the world of watches, I hope your channel grows! I just subbed :)
Welcome to the channel, Daniel!! 😊 I’m glad you’re enjoying the content!!
"Don't talk to me, I'm luxurious!" - Jory Goodman 2018
I know you don’t like skeletons, but I have a feeling you would really appreciate the Zenith Defy El Primero 21. I don’t usually like them either, but the fact that there are two movements in that watch and the chronograph measures 1/100th of each second (one revolution per second on the longest hand) is astounding.
I like the Zenith Defy el Primero 21 but not with a price tag of $10,000.
Pretty fancy. I could never wear this because I’d never get anything done. My ADHD would kick in and I’d just 🤤
If you want same movement but only with tourbillion feature and clean dial you should check Kopeck Tourbillion watch its a homage for H. Moser tourbillon concept wath for only ~450$
This watch uses the same exact movement (Hangzhou HZ3360A) as the Aatos Tiago. The Aatos Tiago is just $450 why is the ERA version worth $1k more? By the way the cost on that movement is about $25 just in case you want to start your own tourbillon watch company.
no. its not $25. feel free to post invoice of where you got that figure. And you're asking why the Aatos, which looks 100% different than ours is worth less? Well perhaps because....its different than ours and so different items are priced differently.
@@feifeidu6047 You've got the wrong movement then. We've already migrated away from the HZ3360A in our new version to our own in-house version, but prior to that we were the world's largest clients for HZ and don't get anywhere near that kind of pricing -- so please take your exaggerations somewhere else
Made by highly skilled chinese babies.
to be fair they can solve advanced calculus during 5-8 weeks old give or take
Is this supposed to be funny or racist ?
@@zackpointer5091 could be both.
@Dmacsimus 747 So you are feeding the beast then? I'm pretty sure you bought some Chinese made stuff at some point. You need a stool to get off the high horse?
@Dmacsimus 747 Don't sweat it. You are basically a saint by supporting the most ethical people on the planet of earth - The Americans! What an ignorant idiot.
I like this big guy. Hahahaa. Bring review with full of fun :V
Dude, I love the hilarity of your channel. Very refreshing having such a fun and carefree attitude on a topic which can be, let’s face it, a little stuffy at times. Keep up the great work. Love the show!
Thanks for doing this vid
Do you think this is a "kickstarter" brand? (marketing over watchmaking)
and what do you think about Linjer?
Love the platinum diamond one. Shows that you pay most of the money on othet brands mostly for the brand name!! 6k is oyster perpectual money. Rolex are still my favourite brand but this proves many things!
I think you can get a nicer tourbillon than the ones you showed us for the same or less money
Show me!
@@thetimeteller Seagull? lol idk
The Time Teller US$499 Real Flying Tourbillon Modern Minimal Design Watches, via @Kickstarter www.kickstarter.com/projects/1821834325/us499-real-flying-tourbillon-modern-minimal-design
Fiqhmadeeasy doesn’t look as fancy as the watch that he showed !
@@thetimeteller www.amazon.com/Akribos-XXIV-AKR493YG-Mechanical-Tourbillon/dp/B0078K39SA
Actually, it is a Carrousel and not a Tourbillon.
Hey, what about the 'sound' or maybe noise(?) of the watch? Is it loud or silent compared to other tourbillon watches?
ERA Prometheus: $1499 USD
ERA Prometheus Titan Edition: $6500 USD
I'm not afraid to say it. These watches look awful. I wouldn't wear it on my wrist it if were only $99.99. Looks like a $99.99 Alibaba Express watch.
I understand the movement is complex due to the tourbillon but that's a large watch. It looks like a skeletonized Invicta. I'm also a smaller guy (6.5 inch wrist) so anything over a 40-42 mm watch tends to swallow my entire wrist.
The watch looks cheap because its cheap!, they are ok but not a fine or millionaire watch
funny video and presentation but NO comment on the dial painting? from the guy who is annoyed by seiko bezels beeing off some microns?
this dial was not only off it was skewed. or the crown is placed at the 3:30 position and i didnt notice.
if you asked me it looked terrible. also that thick silvery color metal plate/ring around the tourbillong jewel was offputting.
Don't talk to me. I'm luxurious. Hilarious man. XD
4 years later you buy one around 300 and a double tourbillon for 700,some designs are even pretty cool and well finished
For $1,000, you figure they would've spent a couple extra bucks to make sure the printed markers were consistent to match the quality of a $50 watch.
My 1st question when buying a tourbillon at this price point would be how reliable is it going to be? How long before it breaks down and when it does do I know anyone that could fix it? That aside I dislike skeleton watches, so I'm out anyway! Another great, fun review, btw.
@Andy I know you said you dislike skeleton watches, but I figured I'd still answer your question. We have an amazing international 2-year warranty that gives you FREE EXPRESS DHL shipping with 100% insurance on the full value of the watch both to our service center and back. That means your timepiece is only away from you for ~2 weeks on average instead of the month+ that most other brands take. In short, if there's any issues with your timepiece, we're going to take care of it at absolutely no cost and minimal hassle to you the first 2 years.
Era Timepieces good to see you guys are reading the comments
@@ERATimepieces Thanks for taking the time to answer. Much appreciated. Really good to see companies taking an active interest in their potential clients' concerns :-)
"Don't talk to me I'm luxurious!" Is my new favorite line. The watches aren't my cup of tea, but they are cool to look at.
The point of a true tourbillon is time accuracy retention. It isn’t just for looks. I’m not going to get into it but it’s not for looks
Man these are some salty comments. Thanks for showing us some close ups of the watch! It's interesting material that I haven't seen much of on other channels
i would rather buy a longines hydroconquest.
Kebir Anand what’s wrong with that watch
Moon phase complications aren’t useless. If you fish it’s good to know the moon phases.
They are almost $2000 & the diamond one $6800.
I sent era a message they didn't honor $1000. So I bought a breitling with diamonds for $7000
I find it strange that a mechanism created to help accuracy in timepieces is mentioned and included in this timepiece yet the gloss over is accuracy or lack of having plus or minus 24 seconds a day.
Lol, "Don't talk to me, I'm luxurious"
BEEP BOOP. Holy bling, Batman.
6000 dollars for a platinum , diamond watch with a chinese movt. brilliant indeed !!!!!!
Cool concept, but a 44mm skeleton is not for me. Still cool to see ERA take a risk and offer something different.
Visually, I love tourbillons & skeleton watches for the flashy display of engineering, but don't see myself wearing one personally as I typically wear tool watches. Maybe a more reserved tourbillon for a dress watch, but I barely wear an open heart watch I have.
Oh, and I too was obsessed over a moonphase, but put it off due to the reasoning above. I've learned of an affordable moonphase chronograph, however, so that's the direction I'm going now. Also, while easily accomplished by checking the internet, a moonphase isn't completely useless and could be beneficial to anyone living or working around large bodies of water to track the tides & whatnot. Plus, while likely coincidences, I have also noticed customers are a bit more loony on shifts that align with full moons, lol
Or astrophotographer like me. I can not take deepsky photos during half or full moon.
My son may get one for his graduation! Thanks brutha!
they look good, for a cool grand, im impressed with it
Yep, this is where I'm going to come to see if there are any watch revues that I am interested in. The host here has a very good and likable personality. Others I have seen just haven't been been entertaining, to being downright boring or others are very high end and even come off as being "snobbish" from some level of this I do not, nor have have any want to be a part of... great revue. My favorites are open heart watches that are in the five and six hundred dollar range, and can be somewhat skeletonized but not the extreme that this one is... I also have been looking at them a long time and have not bought one yet but am really at the point to do so, and one I really like is the Waldhoff Paragon Damascus Royal Blue. great revue and personality, too. 😃👍
Every reason you dont like it is more reasons why I like it lol
what movement does it use? reviews of its durability and longevity?
This watch is more important that people realize... A chinese company is making the most complicated movement of them all, for a really little money. This is a big step for our era, right now you can find icons are changing. I love swiss watches but I applaud on the achievement of chinese horology ans engineering. They really can do anything.
Japanese watachmakers fucked up the swiss with the introduction of Quartz... And they will do it again
This isn't the most complicated.....
They should make a totally clean version with just the tourbillon as a complication. (Vacheron Constantin Patrimony) style. I think it would be much more successful.
Can we talk about skeletonized watches for a second?
The main reason one would want one is to admire the inner workings of the movement. Generally, this means there's something special about the movement, or it's embellished in some way.
A skeletonized watch with, say, a basic Seagull movement or a Miyota makes no sense, which is the crux of the argument for many who dislike skeletonization. This, however, has a tourbillon, which is fantastic to view and so it makes sense in this application.
Whether or not you like this piece aesthetically comes down to personal preference, but I don't think this falls into the "try to make it look cool and end up making it gaudy" category.
7:25 someone please make a meme out of this, thank you.
Don’t like it that the centre of the hands are above the horizontal 3 to 9 o’clock line.
I bought a Minorva RG moonphase date 1-min real flying tourbillon on eBay for US $305 plus shipping. Quite a good looking watch, made in China. After 4 months the date and moonphase no longer worked !
For me the prime reason for a watch is "TO TELL THE TIME!" Any watch that has so much clutter on the dial that you cannot easily see the hands and the numerals / hour indicators is failing this function. Yes this watch is a nice piece of watchmaking BUT hopeless at being an instrument to tell the time.
if you are going for function any 5 dollar quartz watch is better
just like Andy Warhol said - he doesn’t wind his watches, but wore it for the sake of wearing it. Watches are definitely the best men’s accessory.
beside the tourbillon how the other parts of the watch are doing? are they any good?
Hey I just wanted to thank you I just got into watches and you really helped me out a lot! I got the Seiko SNK805 to see how I like it and I fell in love with automatics!!! I now have the SNZG15JC and the ion monster, I really like the monster I couldn't find the Dracula model or the original black dial so I got the ion but I was lucky enough to have found the SRP307 so I now have the watch that got me into wanting watches!!! I'm thinking baby tuna next or the SUP880! But thanks for the great videos keep up the great work!
Never thought I could conceivably own a tourbillion
I recently seen an advertisement on RUclips for a tourbillon .... has anyone else seen this and if so, can you please give me the name of it ?
It's like wearing a washing machine on your wrist and watching the spin cycle mode. These watches are huge!
Luxury is a combination of three things. Without all three, it's not luxury.
1) expensive- "affordable luxury" doesn't exist. Part of luxury is the unattainability to the average person. Which leads us to...
2) exclusivity- not everyone should be able to attain the product regardless of whether they have the money to afford it. Having something others cannot attain is part of luxury otherwise it's just average.
3) quality- the product or service should be of a higher quality. Things like hand finishing over machine finishing or elevating the average to an art is what most people miss.
If any one if these is missing then is not luxury, unless you're using the most basic of commodity definitions. In which case even the cheapest pos watch would qualify.
"Luxury" is an artificial social construct, which the economists call "conspicuous consumption". There's no denying the $6,500 IWC Portuguese Chrono is a "luxury" watch. But it houses a commonplace (albeit modified) ETA Valjoux 7750 movement, which can be found in a $500 Bulova Accutron Gemini or Hamilton Khaki Chrono. That one example of the IWC watch defeats both your "exclusivity" (plus you can get the Portuguese Chrono anywhere) and "quality" argument, leaving only the "expensive" in the IWC defense. A watch brand can artificially increase their watch prices and availability, just like what Rolex, Omega and Daniel Wellington (to an extent) do.
My point is, your three points are incomplete. The most important point you didn't include is "brand perception", which is a very subjective matter. Without brand perception, a watch can have all three points you mentioned, but still nobody will THINK it's luxury.
The first video I watched that gives good description to ERA..... nice video. Only Federico thinks its a a very bad watch. I think he is totally wrong. I think there's not so many brands outside that would give you that much for 3 digits watch. ERA did it so well with its complications and high luxury finish.
I like skeleton watches when they are easily readable like the Hamilton gent auto, this is not one of them.
Great video, I normally don’t look at watches like this, however I like your vids so I watched it anyway for a bit of info. Pretentious and entitled commenters make me laugh too so it was an added bonus. If you want a fun watch that’s a conversation piece and don’t wanna spend your kid’s college savings, sure it is worth it. It’s ok if 1% of watch collectors are butt hurt over it. They don’t represent the industry as a whole.
Love them! Thanks for the review.
Most of these comments are so negative, I think for a Kickstarter brand they definitely did well with this one.
they just rebranded it from chinese watch,. just look at aliexpress and youll find a lot of chinese tourbillon watch with way less than this shit.
And here as I was listening to this entire segment I was like ... and the giveaway for these watches WHAT DO I DO!? It's okay I got my Hamilton Khaki today ^_^ Used but still oh so sexy AND less then half of what brand new is. When I want this watch for my surgery rotation I think I will be okay!
Very very nice watch ,hard to believe that much labor of art work for a very reasonable price which people can afford to own one .
Jori.... you know you love it. My friend Gali will absolutely love it.
Awesome ,does a tourbillon always take the place of a seconds hand.?
Thank you for going outside the box to feeeeeeeel L. U. X. U. R. I. O. U. S
Any chance you would review a U-BOAT CAPSOIL RED? not much on that watch but very interesting concept.
Even at 1000$ it can’t be called a necessity it is still a luxury
Honestly the only thing keeping me from wanting this watch is the skeleton design. That and I have to stop buying watches so I can save for my first Panerai. Wish me luck!
It's nice to see you're getting more in shape. Keep it up!
I'm only confused and curious to know about its service down the years. Tourbillons are expensive to service and if I'm right, I guess service might cost more than a brand new watch.
To my understanding, such movement from Hangzhou cannot be repaired, can only be replaced with a new movement. I guess it is also much cheaper to replace since they are mass produced anyway.
I love this beautiful watch. I wanted to get it for hubby, but now I want it for me! Too big?
The best thing about this watch is it says "hey, ya know all those Swiss watch makers charging $50,000 for their movement?...yeah, they shouldn't cost that much...the Chinese can do it for pennies on the dollar". More Chinese movements need to flood the market so Swiss will maybe stop artificially inflating their prices.
I like it! Invicta also offers chinese tourbillons.
Maybe you should get one of thosr and review it 😂
Seriously though, I have no problem with Chinese watches. I'd even think buying a Chinese tourbillon is a great way to experience them without over spending. However, I really don't like how they campaigned against the luxury watch industry. They attribute the hefty prices to merely price inflation and exclusivity, disregarding the craftsmanship of the watch makers, and they never mentioned that their movement is sourced from China in their initial campaign, but alluding to the possibility that these movements are done by the same watch makers as the Swiss industry. Not saying that this is not a good bargain or a good product, but...
The Swiss market IS inflated...both by price, fake wait lists, 1000 different "special editions"... Swiss watch market is a damn joke right now.
@@j.s.3414 I did not say that the prices of Swiss watches or even German watches aren't inflated. And certainly there are companies with shady operations or even downright rebranding Chinese movements as Swiss made. But that doesn't justify this company from misleading prospective buyers. How many of those initial backers of the campaign know that you can find watches with almost identical movement and design for even cheaper in China?
The Seagull tourbillon exhibit finer finissage than the jaeger lecoultre tourbillon. I have owned both and the black polish on the Seagull is actually better executed
@@zackpointer5091 But Seagull did not try to allude themselves to be Swiss Made. They are quite proud in putting the China Made on the dials. I have not read much about how Seagull markets its tourbillons, but I don't think they place their marketing theme on down playing the Swiss industry.
I've actually been contemplating on getting a Seagull tourbillon lately as well. I think they are priced reasonably well.
I loved everything except how it is hard to see the hands
nice skeleton watch rarely do you see one
44mm to big for me cause I have small wrists
Dial is so busy the hands go almost invisible. Even if it were just an open heart tourbillon Sub homage it’d be better than that
Very Very Nice Segment. Great Channel. I just Joint. Planning on Receiving my ERA Prometius in a week .. I am very excited about it. Again, Great Job with the segment ..
I was close to get one for curiosity when this campaign started. I didn't at the end, but one things is certain. I will get a tourbillon watch at some point of my life
Which brand is this ?
Idk why this is in my recommended, but I enjoyed the video, very good work!
Stunning watch and I like the box
love your humor 😄
Very entertaining video. Not the 6 stacks watch for me. I couldn't tell the time on those pieces. "COULD NOT TELL THE TIME" For $900 to $6000 I need to see the time.
$1k for the “plain” one and $6k for the iced out one. These are Chinese watches. I’ll pass.
Pretty cool to get a tourbillon at this price, and I'm generally in favour of the baroque look with all that engraving and stuff, but this watch commits a cardinal sin: the HANDS ARE TOO SHORT! I mean there's that nice railroad minute track going around the outside, and yet the minute hand is nowhere near it! The 5-minute markers are also a problem since they'd ordinarily double as hour markers, but in this case they're too similar to the 1-minute markers.
Also, I winced every time you said "tourbill**on**" with so much emphasis on the "on".
Meeh it’s a lot of video for not so much actual information.
What about your review? Is it working? Is it accurate? Is it sapphire glass front and back? How is the polishing work? What are the materials used? What is your feedback on legibility? And the bracelet, what’s the mechanism, the leather quality?