yeah and it was the popular phone for rich people back then here in Indonesia (Before LG Prada the popular rich people phone was the nokia 8800 series)
I remember watching a video few days back about the history of Nokia and how it started off as a wood pulp mill and later strengthened its presence in other industrial domains by manufacturing rubber, tyres, cables, wires, TVs etc. It’s interesting to see that how companies like Nokia and Blackberry have built such a great reputation for themselves that despite having minimum to no presence in the production of mobile phones at present, one can always put their trust in the operations of its other subsidiaries as well… (at least I do!)
The Motorola Rugged phones story is even weirder: they are build by Bullit (as you said), but they seem to be based on Motorola Mobility designs. The 2021 Defy had a XT2083-9 model number, similar to the Moto G9 Play it's clearly based (XT1083-1).
so in that case it's more like one of those car conversion companies, lenovo gives them the parts, they make the changes, and then both of them license out via Motorola.
Such a brilliant and extremely informative video Michael. I completely agree with you. As someone who worked in retail for a long time, I made it my mission to help customers by trying to provide this kind of information. Customers need to be aware of what they are buying. Myself personally, I spend days if not weeks and months researching before I buy anything. Where a product is made, who it’s made by etc…
It is worth pointing out that, just like the Nokia brand story, the same happened with Motorola: the one renamed Solutions after the split IS the original parent company (and a big one at that). Mobility was just one of various branches, which was sold to Google then landed at Lenovo. Another similarity: Nokia made home network stuff (like home routers and modems), at least until the dawn of the ADSL era. Motorola did too under its Home division and lasted longer, until 2012 when Arris bought it all. So if you have one of those very popular cable modems, chances are its just a rebranded/evolved Big M device.
Also like Sony and Ericsson. After the "merger" on mobile phones and we got SE devices way back, Erickson is a network hardware company that builds our mobile networks.
As someone who is part of the newer generation, this is a well informative video, astounding and confusing that these stuff exists, What if the device we are currently using now is another one of these licensing stuff. Damn, so much to learn. If only these were the questions in an exam or test. Haha.
Almost 3 years ago, I bought a low-end android phone branded sa Hyundai, in the box the label obviously marked as licensed from Hyundai Korea and I think it was licensed to unknown Chinese electronic company.
My 5130 XpressMusic still rocks. Nice loud speaker, MP3 player buttons, good old J2ME java games and a decent 2MP camera were and still are quite good.
The weirdest branding ever was probably the Escobar Fold, which was just a pirate rebranded Royole FlexPai. The first foldable phone ever. And FlexPai at the same time was probably just a re-engineer phone from other company, since Royole wasn't a phone company at all, just an startup to develop flexible screens (and hinges). Crazy story. I still love the FlexPai, it has a much better aspect ratio than any other foldable. Unfortunately it is as fragile as it gets.
Some budget Sony Ericsson phones (the W395, for example), were actually produced by Siemens. Those were often, if not always, further crippled in software, e.g. lacking support for custom themes. As such, SE has licensed their own hardware platforms to other manufacturers at some point too.
Miss my Nokia 5185i from yesteryear! I had that activated on PagePlus Cellular as recently as 5 years ago too (they would still activate them as they picked up the Verizon 1x service) 💯
I love your vids! I really just love tech and cell phones in general and your videos are just INTERESTING. I don't watch them for a class or for some business venture, I watch them to be informed on what I like and you deliver every time. Great channel sir.
The brand Vertu went into bankruptcy, and then a Chinese coompany bought the branding and makes phones, however they misleadingly say the same "Made in England" branding, but the Vertu factory was demoished and has since been replaced with a shopping centre and Vertu now has no footing even in Europe, meaning they are lying. You can only find Vertu being sold in China, Russia and the middle East.
All of this reminds me of Volvo, they are the perfect example in the automotive world. The consumer part (Volvo Cars) is own by Geely, a huge Chinese automaker since 2010 (They also own Lotus) and Ford since 1999, but the trucks, buses and heavy equipment are still owned by the original Swedish Volvo, the official name is AB Volvo. Everyone thinks they are the same, but they are not.
Very good video - as always. However, I have to say that anyone who doesn't know that BlackBerry is more than just their phones and has seriously asked themselves what they are doing now, is not really interested in the topic and simply has no idea.
I was thoroughly impressed with how informative and well-researched your video was. Your deep knowledge of the mobile industry was evident throughout the video.id like to see more of this type of content. Greetings from Ireland. 🇮🇪
I know for sure AT&T and zte have a similar licensing relationship. If you look at the product catalog, the AT&T /cingular branded devices are actually mostly made by ZTE
You've done it again friend! You've managed to transport me back to a time when cellphones were becoming smartphones, when I was becoming the tech nerd I still am today. How did you do it? Well like other episodes, one simple sound. The sound in this one was that oh so satisfying CLAP from that ESPN flip phone. That has to be one of the best I've ever heard and if i close my eyes and listen again I'm transported to being outside the convenience store around the corner from my childhood house, with my buddies around me. As always, I'm the first one out of my friend group to have the next big tech gadget. I my Moto V557 as if everyone's watching and envious of me and how cool I look. Thanks again for another fantastic video Michael! You're truly the one youtuber that i enjoy every single second lf every single video, and I'm always excited to watch. Keep at it Sir, keep Mobile history alive! People like me love and appreciate it.
Really fascinated by the collection of your vintage phones that make special appearances in between these videos… that means all these will also be featured in the upcoming episodes of ‘When Phones Were Fun’, right? 😃
@@TheMrMobile Thanks for always delighting us with such amazing information about some of the most awesome gadgets ever made! 🙏 You are the best at what you do! 😃👍
2/3 of worlds trade is estimated to be intra-trade. So free markets bs is actually only applicable 1/3 of trading and 2/3 is inside giant corporations that use it to evade massive amounts of taxes and unfair market practices
I bought one of the first Nokia branded hmd mobile phones a few years ago and it sucked. That's when I found out the name had been licensed. I was livid.
This video was fantastic. And I shouldn't be surprised because you make such great videos all the time. But this video's topic was extra interesting because it legitimately cover a topic I've never seen explored. Thank you! Bravo!
In Brazil, initially Nokia phones were manufactured and branded by Gradiente, the largest electronics company in the country at the time. Yeah, the same Gradiente that tried to sue Apple for the iPhone trademark a few years back. But that's another story. Nowadays, you can find VAIO and Compaq notebooks and Infinix Phones in many stores, all built under license by Positivo Tecnologia.
Interesting -- especially with regards to VAIO, who as a company still sells designs and sells notebooks themselves in other regions (though outside of Japan in Asia, is licensed to the Hong Kong based _Nexstgo_ ).
It's a great way for a player with no (strong) prior credentials in the space (eg Lenovo) to enter the market, sometimes playing on the nostalgic feelings (eg Motorola). Expect to see more of it as various Chinese ODMs buy their way into markets worldwide
They started off really awesome. Android one software, fast , guaranteed, and consistent updates of android firmware and reasonable pricing and compromises on mid range smartphones. I had the Nokia 7.1 and prior to google creating the Pixel A series it was basically the cheap pixel experience. Currently however, they make junk and have pretty much squandered all that good will. I wouldn’t touch one of their android phones with a 10 foot pole.
@@bernielomax4702 Ugh, sorry to hear that. The 6.1 is/was a great phone (currently in a drawer 10 inches under my left hand) but I jumped ship for the Pixel 4a. It's dying battery is hard to live with but I can't use a >6 inch screen phone. I will probably sell my soul to an Apple mini or SE. Pray for me.
During era where they released 6.1, 7.1 etc phones they were really good and they did a lot of things right. Current Nokia phones are just low quality underpowered and overpriced garbage. Funny thing is that they can't get right even clear Android. For example Nokia 5.3 is impossible to reset to factory setting after android 12 update that came more than a year late. For some reason the update deletes recovery partition meaning that the phone deletes it's OS but it can't restore it so the phone is bricked and with bootloader being locked there is not way to fix it. Rest of the phones have so many bugs they are barely usable and the promise of monthly security updates? Yeah if you are lucky you'll get one in 3-4 months.
speaking of it , BBK is a chinese company that owns oneplus, oppo,nothing,vivo,realme,iqoo trc so when u buy any of those brands u really buying a bbk phone and not a phone from a swedish or british startap as ur led to beleve looking at u oneplus and nothing
I had a Nokia E90 long ago and used it daily. After a long time I bought a Nokia G21 and it was astoundingly Bad. No Bluetooth after an update, no wlan after update, too slow and so on. Never ever again.
Cool Video. I had a Nokia N95 8GB Spiderman edition, One of the best devices I had. Then I upgraded to a Nokia N97. The worst phone ever made. It had 32GB storage, I remember when trying to install apps on it - always out of memory errors when there was ample space. I gave up and brought an my first iPhone - 3GS, I never looked back.
While I already know most of the stuff in the video, you presented it in such an easily digestible way that I now don't have to explain the stuff myself and just refer people to this video. Nice.
Here's an example for you (on Nokia) The original Bugatti company still exist, they're making airplane parts and are located next to the VW Bugatti that makes cars
The whole thing about providers branding products from Sony, HTC and all the others was also very confusing. Especially if they put different software on it to make it "Tele-Com" or "Sprint" or "Swisscom" here in Switzerland. They even rolled out software updates by themselfs rather than by the manufacturer (or not at all).
Weirdest one for me recently-ish was LG, they announced their last phone (the LG wing I think?) using LG UK, funny thing was, its been impossible to get an LG phone on a network over here for quite a few years before that, if you knew, it was a strange choice, if you didn't you'd just think "LG still release phones?"
There were a few variations after the Wing, according to GSMArena. But I still want to believe it was the last one, since it is probably the most perfectly unnecessary screen design ever, which fits very well with LG.
Nokia is better but has a minimal chipset choice, Motorola (Lenovo) lags at updates and TCL still makes mediocre forgettable devices without the "Blackberry" brand name
I'm actually interested in the quircky nature of the JDM phones especially when phones branded by their respecticve carriers and wondering who made them
I think there needs to be a very clear distinction made between a genuine collaboration between two reputable, thriving businesses, and just a name slapped onto an existing product. A lot of licensing and brand-slapping partnerships are from a position of dependence and cynicism. We have a dead company, a shell or husk of its former self, such as the remnants of Nokia with its original mobile team long gone, having their name used for the sole sake of marketing through brand recognition and nostalgia, so the current owners of the brand can make money without ever producing anything of substance, or even having a single engineer employed at all. These are the deceptive and untrustworthy partnerships that produce equally questionable products. Nokia phones are basically just budget TCL phones with a Nokia label slapped on the back. None of the Nokia DNA remains. It's just a cheap trick. Similarly, storied brands like Leica and Hasselblad barely make anything anymore or even employ all that many people anymore, the camera industry long since decimated, so they are whoring their brand out to whatever and whomever will pay them, that being again, more Chinese companies who have no respect for the original brand's legacy and just throw gimmick upon gimmick on their phones to attract attention. The "collaboration" is between their sales reps and accountants, not their engineers. Some people still think Motorola is an American company with wholesome American values and innovation. Nope. It's long been a part of Lenovo's phone division, churning out mediocre budget phone after mediocre budget phone, and the occasional derivative folding phone made by Lenovo but with a Motorola logo slapped on to make it more palatable to the West. The only people left that are American are a handful of sales reps and business contacts. I'm emphasizing this because aside from Apple, people aching for another American brand are being duped. Just like those aching for a Finnish brand, especially the Nokia of yore. And unlike American companies, Chinese do not recruit talent overseas. It is solely all Chinese with a narrow Chinese mindset and especially, government handlers stationed onsite, dictating decisions and design choices to meet the political agenda of the Chinese government. Every time there is a new law restricting immigration being proposed in the US, there is a huge commotion among tech companies that their talent and innovation will suffer. These problems don't exist in China. That's why Huawei phones still retain knockoff iOS design flourishes from iPhones a decade ago, and the half-baked FaceID implementation they could never fully copy competently.
Another excellent video Michael! I really enjoyed this explanation of product licensing. It's relevance in the mobile world and was just good knowledge presented in a great way!
Great video, I always had a soft spot for the OG erricsson phones before Sony got hold of them , quick question though, whet is that circular screen you’re wearing on your lapel ?
@@TheMrMobile looks cool, perhaps you do a video on it, do you find in recent years it seems the problems seem to lye more with software glitches rather than the hardware itself
Think Imma look into that Delete Me, I've deleted my accounts with Facebook Twitter and Discord over the last couple years because of their overreach. I got one friend that keeps ragging on me for it (calls it a lost cause) but I just don't like the idea of everybody in my business.
I think HMD global need to rework their marketing strategy. If they start telling and educating people about Nokia mobile's history, they will sell more phones than they do now for sure.
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Everybody forgot about LG and Prada. A beautiful partnership lasted for 3 iterations
Damn. I have one of these in the archive too; I shoulda shot it for this!
There was the famous case that the first iphone copied it since it came out at the same time. Was an interesting one.
yeah and it was the popular phone for rich people back then here in Indonesia (Before LG Prada the popular rich people phone was the nokia 8800 series)
What’s the folding phone you’re reading Twitter on???
Hahaha and I loved it Lg G 7 thing. We only got rid of it because 5g was starting and sprint was bought.
I remember watching a video few days back about the history of Nokia and how it started off as a wood pulp mill and later strengthened its presence in other industrial domains by manufacturing rubber, tyres, cables, wires, TVs etc. It’s interesting to see that how companies like Nokia and Blackberry have built such a great reputation for themselves that despite having minimum to no presence in the production of mobile phones at present, one can always put their trust in the operations of its other subsidiaries as well… (at least I do!)
@@HiKshitijpretty much
The Motorola Rugged phones story is even weirder: they are build by Bullit (as you said), but they seem to be based on Motorola Mobility designs. The 2021 Defy had a XT2083-9 model number, similar to the Moto G9 Play it's clearly based (XT1083-1).
so in that case it's more like one of those car conversion companies, lenovo gives them the parts, they make the changes, and then both of them license out via Motorola.
That feels like the point when you give up trying to understand.
There's a new Defy? I remember wanting one so bad so I could play angry birds in the swimming pool
Such a brilliant and extremely informative video Michael. I completely agree with you. As someone who worked in retail for a long time, I made it my mission to help customers by trying to provide this kind of information. Customers need to be aware of what they are buying. Myself personally, I spend days if not weeks and months researching before I buy anything. Where a product is made, who it’s made by etc…
0:21 seeing that BlackBerry priv made my heart ache because it had so much potential to be a truly awesome phone
When you're so early that the video is only available in 360p
Nah it's been 30 mins and its still 360p, did he mess up something?
yep. i like this topic so i will come back later to view it in 4k =))
@@powerman821 He didn't RUclips takes a while to process the video.
Its in 4K come back now 😅
Mine is in 720 . Check your connection to Wi-Fi or cellular signal
Thank you for making this video. It needed to be made, and you did an excellent job, as usual.
It is worth pointing out that, just like the Nokia brand story, the same happened with Motorola: the one renamed Solutions after the split IS the original parent company (and a big one at that). Mobility was just one of various branches, which was sold to Google then landed at Lenovo.
Another similarity: Nokia made home network stuff (like home routers and modems), at least until the dawn of the ADSL era. Motorola did too under its Home division and lasted longer, until 2012 when Arris bought it all. So if you have one of those very popular cable modems, chances are its just a rebranded/evolved Big M device.
Also like Sony and Ericsson. After the "merger" on mobile phones and we got SE devices way back, Erickson is a network hardware company that builds our mobile networks.
As someone who is part of the newer generation, this is a well informative video, astounding and confusing that these stuff exists, What if the device we are currently using now is another one of these licensing stuff. Damn, so much to learn. If only these were the questions in an exam or test. Haha.
Wow! That Motorola segment required it's own video altogether. Such an eye opening video. Thanks MrMobile!
This is kind of a confusing topic, so I appreciate this video, it definitely does a good job explaining how it all works. Thanks Mr. Mobile!
10:20 The reason why I've been sub'd to your channel for years now. Thanks MrMobile.
Almost 3 years ago, I bought a low-end android phone branded sa Hyundai, in the box the label obviously marked as licensed from Hyundai Korea and I think it was licensed to unknown Chinese electronic company.
That was a great video, very illuminating.
DeleteMe is a crazy brand name 💀💀
Honestly a super helpful video explaining licensing and how these current and former phone companies keep popping up in our modern day.
This video is a SLAM DUNK. Loved it, so great to have you telling these stories. Can't wait to see what you decide to cover the tales of next!
I miss Nokia and their mobile phones. I had the 5120, and a few others. I'd love to see what they could do today.
My 5130 XpressMusic still rocks. Nice loud speaker, MP3 player buttons, good old J2ME java games and a decent 2MP camera were and still are quite good.
@@LastofAvari I'd just ordered a n95 so I can play those old j2me gaves once again lmao.
@@aitoluxd How much did it cost? I wanna buy one too
Still have a Nokia E71 (not being used). When you remove the battery there is a label that says "Made in Finland". It's built like a tank.
The weirdest branding ever was probably the Escobar Fold, which was just a pirate rebranded Royole FlexPai. The first foldable phone ever. And FlexPai at the same time was probably just a re-engineer phone from other company, since Royole wasn't a phone company at all, just an startup to develop flexible screens (and hinges). Crazy story. I still love the FlexPai, it has a much better aspect ratio than any other foldable. Unfortunately it is as fragile as it gets.
Thanks for that info. I didn't know about licensing like that 😅
Some budget Sony Ericsson phones (the W395, for example), were actually produced by Siemens. Those were often, if not always, further crippled in software, e.g. lacking support for custom themes. As such, SE has licensed their own hardware platforms to other manufacturers at some point too.
great video michael !
Impressive story you put together on this subject but what was more impressive is your expert use of pomade in the hair! BRAVO! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Miss my Nokia 5185i from yesteryear! I had that activated on PagePlus Cellular as recently as 5 years ago too (they would still activate them as they picked up the Verizon 1x service) 💯
Great concept and needed
I love your vids! I really just love tech and cell phones in general and your videos are just INTERESTING. I don't watch them for a class or for some business venture, I watch them to be informed on what I like and you deliver every time. Great channel sir.
The brand Vertu went into bankruptcy, and then a Chinese coompany bought the branding and makes phones, however they misleadingly say the same "Made in England" branding, but the Vertu factory was demoished and has since been replaced with a shopping centre and Vertu now has no footing even in Europe, meaning they are lying. You can only find Vertu being sold in China, Russia and the middle East.
Thank you, Michael, for another brilliant video, what are you teasing us with on your lapel?
All of this reminds me of Volvo, they are the perfect example in the automotive world. The consumer part (Volvo Cars) is own by Geely, a huge Chinese automaker since 2010 (They also own Lotus) and Ford since 1999, but the trucks, buses and heavy equipment are still owned by the original Swedish Volvo, the official name is AB Volvo. Everyone thinks they are the same, but they are not.
Basic corporate BS. Sometimes it pays out for customers. Most times it doesn't.
I’m one of the few who miss BlackBerry devices. I’ve bought so many in the past, but not the TCL ones. I would purchase again if they came back.
Ya normally I would skip and hate the length of sponsor spots or ads similar to yours, but I watch every bit of them because your videos are damn good
Great review keep up the good work.
Great video, still running a Nokia 2720 flip as main driver. I keep waiting for some real compact phones to make a comeback 🎉
I never get tired of watching Michael Fisher's vidz... I always learn a lot of things...and history, and tech of course.
Great review Michael.
Fun fact, there are Motorola-branded appliances such as air-cons, refrigerators, washing machines, TVs, and more in India.
Informative and very interesting !
More such please 💐
Very good video - as always. However, I have to say that anyone who doesn't know that BlackBerry is more than just their phones and has seriously asked themselves what they are doing now, is not really interested in the topic and simply has no idea.
I was thoroughly impressed with how informative and well-researched your video was. Your deep knowledge of the mobile industry was evident throughout the video.id like to see more of this type of content. Greetings from Ireland. 🇮🇪
Thanks for the video! Ah, I have to dig out some of my old Blackberries for the Blackberry movie next week.
Great video Mr. Mobile❤
Fantastic video. Misconceptions regarding the operations of Nokia today really made the logo change a much bigger thing than it should have been 😆
This was a surprisingly informative video, that I actually really enjoyed this is why I subscribed. Good job Mr Mobile!!
How are there no comments yet on how epic Michael’s hair is?
I know for sure AT&T and zte have a similar licensing relationship. If you look at the product catalog, the AT&T
/cingular branded devices are actually mostly made by ZTE
Oh I totally forgot about carrier-branded phones! That would have thickened up this video some. Dang.
@@TheMrMobileZTE also rebranded some phones for Orange, a network with a very interesting history.
You've done it again friend! You've managed to transport me back to a time when cellphones were becoming smartphones, when I was becoming the tech nerd I still am today. How did you do it? Well like other episodes, one simple sound. The sound in this one was that oh so satisfying CLAP from that ESPN flip phone. That has to be one of the best I've ever heard and if i close my eyes and listen again I'm transported to being outside the convenience store around the corner from my childhood house, with my buddies around me. As always, I'm the first one out of my friend group to have the next big tech gadget. I my Moto V557 as if everyone's watching and envious of me and how cool I look.
Thanks again for another fantastic video Michael! You're truly the one youtuber that i enjoy every single second lf every single video, and I'm always excited to watch. Keep at it Sir, keep Mobile history alive! People like me love and appreciate it.
Really fascinated by the collection of your vintage phones that make special appearances in between these videos… that means all these will also be featured in the upcoming episodes of ‘When Phones Were Fun’, right? 😃
Ha - theoretically, given enough time! 😄
@@TheMrMobile Thanks for always delighting us with such amazing information about some of the most awesome gadgets ever made! 🙏
You are the best at what you do! 😃👍
@@TheMrMobileYou replied in Hindi (Ha = Yes) ? That was a nice touch 😜
I come for the likeable voice and trustworthy face, I stay for the valuable information I receive. Very informative.
Thank you for keeping the recap of how Microsoft merked Nokia mercifully short. I still get flashbacks.
Same with pretty much everything - you fav headphones or stereo, hell, even your childhood ice cream is probably some conglomerate
2/3 of worlds trade is estimated to be intra-trade. So free markets bs is actually only applicable 1/3 of trading and 2/3 is inside giant corporations that use it to evade massive amounts of taxes and unfair market practices
I bought one of the first Nokia branded hmd mobile phones a few years ago and it sucked. That's when I found out the name had been licensed. I was livid.
This video was fantastic. And I shouldn't be surprised because you make such great videos all the time. But this video's topic was extra interesting because it legitimately cover a topic I've never seen explored. Thank you! Bravo!
In Brazil, initially Nokia phones were manufactured and branded by Gradiente, the largest electronics company in the country at the time. Yeah, the same Gradiente that tried to sue Apple for the iPhone trademark a few years back. But that's another story.
Nowadays, you can find VAIO and Compaq notebooks and Infinix Phones in many stores, all built under license by Positivo Tecnologia.
Interesting -- especially with regards to VAIO, who as a company still sells designs and sells notebooks themselves in other regions (though outside of Japan in Asia, is licensed to the Hong Kong based _Nexstgo_ ).
It's a great way for a player with no (strong) prior credentials in the space (eg Lenovo) to enter the market, sometimes playing on the nostalgic feelings (eg Motorola). Expect to see more of it as various Chinese ODMs buy their way into markets worldwide
The HMD Global Nokia phones where actually solid AF, I had the 6.1, 7.1, 6.2 & 7 Plus, recommended them alot, my favourite had to be the 6.1 TBH
They started off really awesome. Android one software, fast , guaranteed, and consistent updates of android firmware and reasonable pricing and compromises on mid range smartphones. I had the Nokia 7.1 and prior to google creating the Pixel A series it was basically the cheap pixel experience. Currently however, they make junk and have pretty much squandered all that good will. I wouldn’t touch one of their android phones with a 10 foot pole.
@@bernielomax4702 Ugh, sorry to hear that. The 6.1 is/was a great phone (currently in a drawer 10 inches under my left hand) but I jumped ship for the Pixel 4a. It's dying battery is hard to live with but I can't use a >6 inch screen phone. I will probably sell my soul to an Apple mini or SE. Pray for me.
During era where they released 6.1, 7.1 etc phones they were really good and they did a lot of things right. Current Nokia phones are just low quality underpowered and overpriced garbage.
Funny thing is that they can't get right even clear Android. For example Nokia 5.3 is impossible to reset to factory setting after android 12 update that came more than a year late. For some reason the update deletes recovery partition meaning that the phone deletes it's OS but it can't restore it so the phone is bricked and with bootloader being locked there is not way to fix it.
Rest of the phones have so many bugs they are barely usable and the promise of monthly security updates? Yeah if you are lucky you'll get one in 3-4 months.
I have X20 and i'm happy with this smartphone despite the fact it's so big and it take a long time to charge full
Ahhhh that 6.1 with those gold details. Such a beautiful device. I really miss it.
speaking of it , BBK is a chinese company that owns oneplus, oppo,nothing,vivo,realme,iqoo trc so when u buy any of those brands u really buying a bbk phone and not a phone from a swedish or british startap as ur led to beleve looking at u oneplus and nothing
I’m surprised there wasn’t any mentioning of the new thinkpad phone. It would be great to see a review by mrmobile
I had a Nokia E90 long ago and used it daily. After a long time I bought a Nokia G21 and it was astoundingly Bad. No Bluetooth after an update, no wlan after update, too slow and so on. Never ever again.
"Sick of your personal information being out there and sold to the highest bidder? Give it to yet another organisation and even pay them for it!"
Cool Video. I had a Nokia N95 8GB Spiderman edition, One of the best devices I had. Then I upgraded to a Nokia N97. The worst phone ever made. It had 32GB storage, I remember when trying to install apps on it - always out of memory errors when there was ample space. I gave up and brought an my first iPhone - 3GS, I never looked back.
Love your vids so Just keep 'em coming😊🎉
While I already know most of the stuff in the video, you presented it in such an easily digestible way that I now don't have to explain the stuff myself and just refer people to this video. Nice.
That does not work. People just don't watch the content referred by others even if they gain a lot from that.
Here's an example for you (on Nokia)
The original Bugatti company still exist, they're making airplane parts and are located next to the VW Bugatti that makes cars
Guess it's no surprise HMD Global is not necessarily keeping up with Android updates lately since Android One isn't as Out Loud as it used to be.
4:21 i wanna see more of that orange cat 😂👀
Really enjoyed this one.
Speaking of Nokia, I'd love to see a video about the Nokia N9 and its failed (but brilliant) Meego OS.
I'm not the only one who saw him rocking the Mkbhd Atom 251 right?
You are so unique reviewer, I actually wait your uploads!
God, how much i miss Nokia, i think i had over 20 devices from them. N95 and 3250 were the bomb back then
Very well explained, please make a video covering Smartwatches & TWS too.
The whole thing about providers branding products from Sony, HTC and all the others was also very confusing. Especially if they put different software on it to make it "Tele-Com" or "Sprint" or "Swisscom" here in Switzerland. They even rolled out software updates by themselfs rather than by the manufacturer (or not at all).
Weirdest one for me recently-ish was LG, they announced their last phone (the LG wing I think?) using LG UK, funny thing was, its been impossible to get an LG phone on a network over here for quite a few years before that, if you knew, it was a strange choice, if you didn't you'd just think "LG still release phones?"
There were a few variations after the Wing, according to GSMArena. But I still want to believe it was the last one, since it is probably the most perfectly unnecessary screen design ever, which fits very well with LG.
The way he said several years ago referring to 2020, made me feel really old.
The Priv and Key2 are still my favorite phones. I hate typing on touchscreens and an actual keypad is so much nicer.
The way mobile world is now going, it is hard to trust brands like Nokia, Windows, BlackBerry, Sony.
Excellent topic for a video! Thank you, Michael!
Very cool to see one of my favourite MD players in shot....Sony MZ-R37.....recording with one rn
I wish Moto, Blackberry and Nokia would bring back great phones that are updated on a regular and long basis.
I miss BlackBerry on a daily basis! 😢😢😢
Nokia is better but has a minimal chipset choice, Motorola (Lenovo) lags at updates and TCL still makes mediocre forgettable devices without the "Blackberry" brand name
Very interesting video! I wish you would do more of these informative videos
I'm actually interested in the quircky nature of the JDM phones especially when phones branded by their respecticve carriers and wondering who made them
That shot of the Pixel fold looks like it's not gonna have any crease.
I think there needs to be a very clear distinction made between a genuine collaboration between two reputable, thriving businesses, and just a name slapped onto an existing product. A lot of licensing and brand-slapping partnerships are from a position of dependence and cynicism. We have a dead company, a shell or husk of its former self, such as the remnants of Nokia with its original mobile team long gone, having their name used for the sole sake of marketing through brand recognition and nostalgia, so the current owners of the brand can make money without ever producing anything of substance, or even having a single engineer employed at all. These are the deceptive and untrustworthy partnerships that produce equally questionable products. Nokia phones are basically just budget TCL phones with a Nokia label slapped on the back. None of the Nokia DNA remains. It's just a cheap trick. Similarly, storied brands like Leica and Hasselblad barely make anything anymore or even employ all that many people anymore, the camera industry long since decimated, so they are whoring their brand out to whatever and whomever will pay them, that being again, more Chinese companies who have no respect for the original brand's legacy and just throw gimmick upon gimmick on their phones to attract attention. The "collaboration" is between their sales reps and accountants, not their engineers. Some people still think Motorola is an American company with wholesome American values and innovation. Nope. It's long been a part of Lenovo's phone division, churning out mediocre budget phone after mediocre budget phone, and the occasional derivative folding phone made by Lenovo but with a Motorola logo slapped on to make it more palatable to the West. The only people left that are American are a handful of sales reps and business contacts. I'm emphasizing this because aside from Apple, people aching for another American brand are being duped. Just like those aching for a Finnish brand, especially the Nokia of yore. And unlike American companies, Chinese do not recruit talent overseas. It is solely all Chinese with a narrow Chinese mindset and especially, government handlers stationed onsite, dictating decisions and design choices to meet the political agenda of the Chinese government. Every time there is a new law restricting immigration being proposed in the US, there is a huge commotion among tech companies that their talent and innovation will suffer. These problems don't exist in China. That's why Huawei phones still retain knockoff iOS design flourishes from iPhones a decade ago, and the half-baked FaceID implementation they could never fully copy competently.
Had the key 2. Used it till my carrier said I couldn’t anymore. The day blackberry comes out with a new one I’ll get it
Thank u so much ❤
You held a Blackberry Priv during the opening, and it's a phone designed and manufactured by RIM itself. 0:56
Sidkick was the most fun phone i ever had. Imagine a fild fone with a slide out physical keybord
informative video. 👍
Great educational video!
Another excellent video Michael! I really enjoyed this explanation of product licensing. It's relevance in the mobile world and was just good knowledge presented in a great way!
This is the video I didn't know I needed today. Truly informative.
Great video, I always had a soft spot for the OG erricsson phones before Sony got hold of them , quick question though, whet is that circular screen you’re wearing on your lapel ?
That's a Saramonic microphone. Trying to get the app to cooperate long enough to upload a MrMobile logo to it!
@@TheMrMobile looks cool, perhaps you do a video on it, do you find in recent years it seems the problems seem to lye more with software glitches rather than the hardware itself
Didnt know about TCL blackberry. Thanks!
Think Imma look into that Delete Me, I've deleted my accounts with Facebook Twitter and Discord over the last couple years because of their overreach. I got one friend that keeps ragging on me for it (calls it a lost cause) but I just don't like the idea of everybody in my business.
I think HMD global need to rework their marketing strategy. If they start telling and educating people about Nokia mobile's history, they will sell more phones than they do now for sure.
Still hoping Microsoft will make a weird version of Windows and Android combined to have a 4th Major mobile smartphone OS
is huaweis os the 3th?
Fourth? What’s the third?
@@CMxPunk huawei mobile is like a disowned child that end up pretty well for themselves all things considered.