Hobby Cheating 177 - How to Speed Paint Skaven
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- In this Hobby Cheating Tutorial, I take you through how you can use multiple speed painting techniques to get some good quality Skaven on the table that still have plenty of contrast and pop. Rats always come in large numbers so this helps you get your horde on the table fast. Hope you enjoy!
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"I love my Clan Rats to pop a little." - Gold! XD
Glad you enjoyed!
I love these little guys! Maybe when I've done all of my 40k projects, I might do a small Skaven army for Kings of War or AoS. They play both at my club.
The rats are great no matter the game. :)
@@VinceVenturella The problem is, the year before last, I went through a phase of accumulating plastic and resin. I have A LOT of models to paint - 30k Marines, 40k Guard, and more Genestealers than I can really justify. If I wanted to sell off any of these piles of shame, I think I'd probably move on the Space Marines, the Mk3 and Mk4 have gone up in price since I collected them. I'm more interested in finishing off my Guard army and getting a Genestealer cult force done, since I'm really not bothered with learning the 7th ed HH rules.
Hmm. Letting go of things isn't easy! I might just box up the Marine sprues and put them into stoorage.
In any case, I've learnt my lesson - I won't start buying up another army until I've made enough headway with the other army projects and they are at a playable point where I can safely park any further development of them.
Furiously clicking on the link for all of the classes you are going to do in Australia :P Wishful thinking as always :)
Oh, they are coming. I am currently looking at aligning with Cancon next year, but we are still in the scheduling phase.
It all stands and falls with the priming. I messed up the zenithal on my SM army and it took me quite longer to paint my 1500pts. In the end, it was a good learning session.
Yep, that initial undershade is so important, but it can set you up big for success later.
Great video as always. Would love a similar video for orks/goblins!
I do have a few videos in the list on goblin skin and orc skin
Goblin Skin - ruclips.net/video/e1OdliZ6tB8/видео.html
Orc Skin - ruclips.net/video/QcnAyDGUA1E/видео.html
Hope that helps.
So relaxing to watch
Thank you, I will say painting rats is often my own personal zen. :)
The cheese joke got me.
What kind of RPM (Rats per Minute) do you think you get following these steps? Assuming a newer/less experienced painter would take twice as long as an expert.
It's always hard to say for sure. But I would say using these techniques, I could do 80-100 in a week, over maybe 10-20 hours. That might vary greatly, but keeping it to simple techniques and such a limited palette helps.
Great video, as usual :-) would love to see more of those speedpaintings. Cheese, ah cheers..
I will try to see what I can do to add some more of them, especially as armies are released.
@@VinceVenturella :-)
Yes yes, we like like what you paint paint!
Thank you, happy to help as always.
Thanks for the Sepia ink demo, Vince!
I think that's meant non-ironically and/or sarcastically, so I will say happy to help as always. :)
@@VinceVenturella Totally! I hadn't understood this could have several meanings. I meant it in the genuine way.
Hey Vince! I've recently heard that tournaments often like you to put squad markings on your units to differentiate them on the field. What kind of markings would you use for Skaven? Would you paint one pack with red clothes, and maybe the other with green, and another with blue?
Putting squad markings on the bases is a horrible idea, it completely messes with the piece. What would you do?
Yep, your idea is exactly what I would do. Hold the rest of the colors the same and vary one item. So for me, for a unit of say Stormcast or something, I would vary the color on a shoulderpad (assuming they were identical otherwise and I wasn't just varying weapons - that's another way to go. With things like Clan Rats, there are multiple "hand weapon" options and you could always group that way too).
I agree and hate markings on the base, so this is the easy solution. The army still looks coherent, but the units can be easily distinguished.
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Thank you 👍
Hello, Vince. Thanks for the great tutorial. Do you have any tips for rats from Clan Pestilens? They are also blessed with various diseases and ulcers and I think it would be great to point this out
an easy trick is just to touch all of those with something like a Carronberg crimson. You can then touch the rasied area with a little pale flesh or something fleshy/yellow. Pops them right out.
Hi Vince, could you do the same process for, pestilence monks. Brilliant video 👍
Hi vince..I'm also thinking about doing the aged leather effects on the monk's robes..??
I appreciated the rat pun.
I can't always promise good audio quality or focus, but I can promise puns. That I can deliver.
He's quick!
he squeaks!
I am going to make a super-cut of me making noises with the figs I am painting. ;)
This is an awesome clan rats tutorial. Would adding dry brushing help speed this up even more? like after the zenithal ("super zenithal") or to speed up the cloak highlights?for the undershading?
Sure, my recommendation would be to do it with a soft make-up brush and VERY little paint so you get a smooth dry brush, but yes, you could certainly do so.
Vince can we get a video about the technique of using gloss varnish before a heavy\agressive wash to avoid coffee staining. How, when, tricks, tips etc.
thanks for your efforts.
Sure, honestly, I don't love it as a trick alone, I like the combination of that and flow-aid to really get the paint off the flats and into the recesses, so I will add all of that to an explanation.
Another great one, thank you!
Thank you, happy to help as always.
I got my friend Erin in to 40k and then she fell in love with skaven, so she got the carrion box. Now I’m doing the courts and she’s doing the rat boies. She will be stoked to watch this!
Daniel Klinglesmith V Skaven in WH 40.000?
No, in aos, she was new to miniatures and did not know the vast world yet.
Daniel Klinglesmith V Oh, I see. But I prefer the "old school" Skaven and rules, AOS isn't so good :(
We will see how it goes :-)
I got her some 5th gen “monkey” clan rats
I would be very much interested to see what kind of techniques you have for speed painting metallics. I've not found effective speed painting techniques yet
Stay tuned for about 2 weeks, you should see something to help you out. :)
But his cheesy response would likely be a good ‘tail’. Hehe
Well, the responses are just enough to squeak by. ;)
Vince Venturella haha love it!
Would it be possible to have a hobby cheating/Tutorial on High Elf helmets with TMM metallics, those pointy hats have been a some degree of stuggle of mine. I just cant figure how to paint that surface nicely, and those swordmasters deserve better.
I have a tutorial coming on TMM steel actually, you'll have to tell me if that gives you what you need.
@@VinceVenturella Yey! We shall see. Those Elven Helmets are just odd shapes, thats why I asked :P
Did you use an airbrush to apply the aged white for the undercoat or did you dry brush it with a makeup brush?
Airbrush in this case, but a soft make-up brush dry-brush would work fine.
i started to watch this at 3am
At 14:07 i realized the brightness on my phone was at half.....
That'll hurt the viewing experience. ;)
Hey Vince, I'm rewatching this video again. I often wonder, why you tend to choose black as the base colour for your prime / undercoat? Would it have been more efficient to have primed black, then go over 90% of this with a dark brown, like Burnt Umber or a dark rust, and then do the 50% zenithal of the sand colour from above? The grey looks a bit cold, so perhaps it would be a bit more work to warm it up to the fur colour with the second wash, than if you had started with a brown?
In this case, I wanted to keep it simple, so I go with the standard zenithal (because it can still work). If I do different colors, then I first have to explain this different method, then explain why, then we add another 10 minutes on the video. In the end, the key is to combine the techniques I share in whatever ways you like.:)
@@VinceVenturella there's definitely value in simplicity. I always come up with massively over complicated recipes, and I'm really not sure they add anything.
I can't wait to see your massed Skaven army when it's all finished! I love those little guys.
Vince, I seem to recall you being more brush agnostic than you typically are with paint lines. At least, I don't remember you recommending W&N S7s over any other brand. That said, this is the first time I think I've seen you use a Raphael 8404. Personally, I adore the line and definitely prefer them to my W&N, DaVinci, and Warcolours Kolinsky brushes. What do you think of the 8404s, and what prompted the change?
Just decided to give them a try and really liked them. I am pretty brush agnostic and still use my W&N S7, but I like these very much, they have a nice spring to them. In the end, it's something where there isn't really a best brush amongst all of these, but the best brush for you. Experimentation is always good.
This video needed better lighting. :/
Sorry, I had thought I had it bright enough, I will see what I can do to up the lighting in the future.
What material do you use for the wet palette? What do you find works best? thanks
So for the paper, I just use good old fashioned non-wax baking paper.
UK dates booked up already Vince? Checked on the site but they don't seem to available.
Quite the opposite, we are just still finalizing the venue, but they are going to go fast. More very soon.
Hello, Vince: Just picked up a ton of Skaven. Unsure if they were out when this video debuted, but would you recommend contrast paints for this application?
Absolutely, contrast paint would be a great solution here.
Is that a "traditional" zenithal? Like a cold Grey's to white?
Yep, Cold/Mid-Grey and white from above.
Awesome. Solid tutorial as always Vince.
Hey Vince,
What is the difference between the flow aid you use in this video and the glaze medium and the thinner medium you have used in other videos? Do they accomplish the same thing, or is there a specific reason you are using the flow aid for speed painting?
Thanks for the videos, they are helping me improve a ton!
So flow improver makes paint flow more easily, it breaks the surface tension. It runs more easily in to the recesses, acting much like new contrast paints,
Thinner does simply that, it things the overall effect of the paint, but it still coats evenly (theoretically), it weakens the color. Hopefully that helps.
Thank you! That makes sense.
Im not too much of a fan of the modern(ish) clan rat models. However the stormvermin and most other models are lovely. I dont even play sigmar or FB but like collecting and painting rats. The old 80s and early 90s skaven have a very special place in my heart as they were some of the first minis I ever got from new in 1989. I pinced my dads barclaycard and ordered them out of a white dwarf my friend leant me and was grounded for a week but got to keep my rat ogers and other guys so was well worth it! Some of the old skavn look like they were the 'good guys' somehow I always thought as a kid. Some of them look so cute and friendly! Im trying to aquire the complete Advanced Heroquest listed skaven ATM. I used to have a lot of them way back when. Love those guys and that game system so much!
I do have a special place in my heart for several of those old sculpt as well. They had such wonderful character.
So, if I wanted to paint grey skaven.... they have grey skin/fur with green robes, how would you recommend inking or glazing the skin/fur after zenethal highlighting? Would you still finish the zenethal with an off-white or a light grey?
Well, non colors like grey are always tougher honestly. I have a tutorial on painting grey skin (ruclips.net/video/fsqiCsQg32g/видео.html) it uses a rat ogre, so I would say start with that. That being said, you want a little color in their, I would still use an ivory or a white grey and then use something like an agrax wash to create a little color. Hope that helps.
Vince Venturella thank you very much. Very helpful as always
Would this sort of scheme also work for storm fiends? Particularly this method of painting the skin.
Yep, though the larger areas of skin may need a little smoothing (I am thinking like biceps and exposed chest) but the basic premise would certainly work. :)
@@VinceVenturella awesome! I'll give it a whirl and see how it turns out! Thanks a ton for the response, and for uploading these in general. I'm painting for the first time in my life and the idea of painting 120 rats terrified me. But with this, I think it's doable! Keep up the good work Vince and wish me luck! :)
How do you prim your models?
So I cover this in some other videos (if you look up Zenithal highlighting videos, you will see what I do). But basically, I prime using vallejo Panzer Grey (which is black/grey), then a grey paint from 45 degrees, and white from above.
can airbrush thinner be used as flow improver?
Sure, airbrush thinner is usually a mix of flow aid and retardant to prevent tip dry. It will work fine with a brush.
@@VinceVenturella awsome thanks for your help. Keep up the good work, i know myself and the warhammer community appreciates what you do.
Response...Cheesy...ooof
;)
I did mine with Ratributor Armor
Quality.
This should be useful lol
Get those rats painted buddy. :)
Hello :) Your videos are incredible but, just.... Why is your voice always on the right ear only ? I have to listen with headphones and it's really weird. Other than that, thanks a lot for taking the time to make these !
I literally have no idea on that one. When I listen to them it's multi-channel and in both ears. That is very strange. Huh. At any rate, happy to help as always. :)
@@VinceVenturella Thank you for taking the time to answer :) I circumvent the problem by setting the right channel at about 35% so that it's about the same level on both ears. I don't have that problem with other youtube channels so I don't know either. Thanks again for your videos !
That's interesting; I also listen on headphones but, for me at least, his voice is always in both ears.
I'm reporting you to Games Workshop for cheating
I am sure that Duncan and Peachy will be dispatched MIB style very soon. ;)
He certainly looks like he's been in the sewers
Oh, I thought for a moment you'd say he's seen sewer days.... :-)
That was the goal, he should look a little...ratty. ;)