5.02 respect to tbat lovely mum helping her daughter create her own unique identity aided with a Singer sewing machine..my lovely mum in Liverpool did the same thing 😊
The Drones new line up launches in Manchester, January 21st 2017. The girl with her mum is Denise Shaw.....she attended the Drones press launch a few weeks ago (Nov 2016) and is very much alive and well.
I got stopped five days in a row on my way to school by the police because my school didn't have uniforms and we could dress as we wanted, I also used to get grown men starting on me and had bricks and bottles thrown at me by those adult men when I was 13/14 because I was a punk, yet I was the one seen as the violent threat! But I never attacked, abused or insulted people in the street just because of how they wore their clothes and hair.
same things happened to me on a regular basis,grown 30 odd something aged blokes punching a 13/14 year old lad in the face,guts,real big hard men,hopefully they are suffering in misery n pain now,twats bullys,cowards.
This was so common when i was a kid. Living in Michigan...land of beer and the CRC? i was harassed by grown men and women...ultra conservative ADULTS in public, restaurants, on the bus, in the streets. "DYKE!" "they all wanted to beat my ass for the committing the cardinal sin of wearing ripped flannel, doc martens, and the worst of all....OH MY GOD...GIRL WITH A MOHAWK!!! I got used to it by age 14 but it was always surreal...
I was one of maybe 20 punks in a school with about 800 hicks and preppies in georgia. Had some good scuffles in the hallways as a result haha. Good times
I got the same treatment here in U.S., where It's conservative. They want everyone modest and wholesome. They frown on civil liberties and personal freedom.
Punk was middle class rebellion, it was never meant for the working class and the police came down hard on those emulating their 'betters', it's like todays Antifa, rich kids with influential parents running round setting fire to things but the police only step in when 'oiks' fight back or copy them, one rule for me another for thee, always been
Nice one, thanks, I worked on Brass Tacks (later delightfully parodied by Chris Morris in Brass Eye) as an assistant film editor for the film inserts, not on this one but I remember watching it. A great title sequence showing the then cutting edge technology at New Broadcasting House, sadly missed, although the ghosts of Jimmy Savile and Stuart Hall may roam the site. When I try to tell youngsters we used cellotape to join the bits of film together they think I'm senile. The film bits were very well done, when film-making was a craft. Gigantic studio cameras, with blokes pulling the cables around like the 1930's. All done live remember, all those decisions. Michael Wood with his shirt undone on the phone-line response after the crazy vicar did all those In Search of The Trojan Wars etc., documentaries, Great Railway Journeys, played in an amateur rock band, he was famous for his pieces to camera somewhere up a mountain with his tight jeans displaying his assets. The subjects of this piece did very well, they must have trusted the programme makers to an extent. I hope those who took part get too see it.
Not saying people should take street drugs, but look what happened when they banned legal highs this century, much more lethal dangerous drugs have come out such as cannabinoids that kill people, I know personally someone who died from spice.
Yep , it's all about fear and the rich turning groups of poor people against eachother , while the rich themselves continue robbing us all behind the curtain , and shore up their own power.
Not one single punk requires 10% of your check to hang with them, or force one fiction book at you and expect you to believe the crap. Hmmm I don't think I've ever heard of a single punk organization who rape young boys and girls then cover it up.
Kings road on a Saturday was an amazing punk promenade back then, no film or pic could really ever capture it fully, it was a unique atmosphere & it's not just that culture that's passed but the wider culture too now, not for the better neither.
Ive got an original Johnny thunders heartbreakers lamf cassette from 77. It was my uncle's and he gave it me. I dont have a cassette player. But i have got the damned the clash on vinyl. Punk rocks the best. I was born around that time. But my mom wasnt a punk. She was a mod.
You should listen to IDLES they’re a great punk band from Bristol and they’re a great laugh as well as intelligent. :) The Chats are a pretty good band too, from Aussie
@@rexterrocks Same, I never got a CD player so relied on the collection I had during that bleak period! Cassettes got me through to the early 90's, and after that the working touring bands (that ultimately came from the [real] punk scenes anyways), e.g. Against Me!, Melvins/Big Business, Neurosis, et al, almost always still offered vinyl for sale online and at shows. Vinyl never went out of style for electronic, techno/dance, and hiphop, so basically it was only the mainstream crap, fake punk, itunes algoryhthmic formula pop etc, that wasn't available. I didn't miss anything, don't think 😉
What a woman Denise Lloyd (Shaw) is,she as been a great friend from the minute we meet back in the 70's and will always been the female face of punk in the North :)
Fascinating to watch this in 2019... John Peel now long gone and Pete Shelley having now passed away recently. Seems odd to consider that all those elder people would have been born in the early 1900s... when I cast my mind back to these times we kids were all generally a little bit frightened by this movement because it really was a massive change... the charts were full of pap like the Wurzels and totally rubbish like Brotherhood of Man which just felt like falling into a pile of pink cushions coated with talcum powder whilst eating a turkish delight... however that frightening image was really just the media. Sure there were a lot of knob ends back and to some degree I think there was a kinda hooligan element but in some ways that was a safety valve.... I think what came after punk was a whole other thing and the musical landscape from 77-81 was just pure magic. It really does strike a contrast with the somewhat banal music scene of today...
I was 16 in 78 and followed punk and watched bands that came to Nottingham. I never saw any violence or vandalism. Just young people having a great time.
Councillors, pastors and the BBC, the voices of the establishment pre punk era, the only bunch missing is the Royals. People that weren't around in that era simply have no idea of how repressive the UK was when it comes to the music scene/music industry. If it hadn't been for the punk thing in the 70's a huge chunk of today's musical genre's simply would not exist. No matter what you're musical tastes, if you value modern music then you owe a debt of gratitude to the punks (as well as earlier musical trends and events)! And as for Councillor Bernard Brook-Partridge, well he should have been taken out and shot! What a pompous tosser he was.... Thank god Punk won the day!
The desire to control another persons free will is the personality trait of psychopathy. No wonder the BBC and the church turned out to be a vipers nest of paedophiles
These were the exact same bastards who protected Jimmy Saville and the clergy abusing children. This tells you everything you need to know about why and how that happened.
I agree wholeheartedly! A lot of today’s music such as EDM/big room house would not be around had it not been for punk rock in the 70s! Me being into rave music of the early 90s, the Madchester sound, house, trance and Wigan Pier bounce, all of that can be traced right back to the punk era and the music itself later evolved into post punk then New Romanticism and eventually acid house raves. A massive debt is indeed owed to those at the forefront of the punk scene!
To me, punk was all about freedom of speech and how people saw themselves. I do not think that it was harmful at all. Politicians talk crap whereas the punk bands spoke the truth about the crap society we live in. I thought the music was different and quiet exiting at the time - it needed to happen anyway - it was certainly different to anything gone before. Anyway, some great musicians came out of that era
Bloody hell - the bloke right at the start is 'Odgie' former editor of 'Back Street Heroes' then 'AWOL'. Hot Rod builder, drag racer, anarchist, great writer. Amazing bloke - never sold out (perhaps he wasn't offered enough money)...
Not seen this before. The punks and Peel destroyed them in the debate. I've met thousands of people and punks have always been the most intelligent and humanitarian. You may have been able to say a similar thing about rap if it had followed the direction of Public Enemy, KRS-1, Hiphoprisy etc instead of the boasting capitalist shit it has become . But then punk was capitalist in the 90s anyway...
If you look back through history you'll see any group that has the ability to travel and spread a message the government of the time doesn't like will be banned or subject to restrictions. Actors, musicians, travelling minstrels even wandering beggars and itinerant labourers. That's why Romanies became known as Gypsies. They were described as coming from Egypt and being able to perform dark magic as the wandered the countryside. Egyptian became Gypsy. They actually originated in India. The elites have to create fear of other groups to keep the attention away from themselves and the crap they are getting up to. Some people unfortunately believe what they are told.
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I actually first fell head-over for Pete Shelley when he was new wave and I was 11. By 15 I was a street kid and growing up on West Coast punk rock with other kids doing everything ourselves since it was the only way. I was putting on some shows, making the flyers, and publishing a zine for trade around the world, made possible by a mod kid who had a crush on me and a score job at Kinko's; I had a really nice cast-metal butterfly-clasp Buzzcocks pin on my hat and no idea that what we were doing and the way we did it was directly the ideaology brought to punk rock by our Pete. I didn't even know the guy in Buzzcocks was the same guy from the dance clubs. I wish I knew more about him, this man I guess I was going to fall toward no matter what or when, but other than music performances there is so little out there for us to see what he was like, what he had to say and how he said it; even the few sentencss uttered here are so precious, thank you for sharing this programme.
you'd think those times of inane prejudice would be gone, but i was in a pub in blackpool with my mate whilst on our way to the rebellion festival in 2018 and the landlord said to us, "I wouldn't go into the town this weekend, it's full of punks". Then we explained that that was where we were going and silence ensued
These councillors or mps go off about the vandalism at punk rock concerts and banning the gigs BUT how much vandalism & violence happens at football matches!!!! they didn't ban football!!!
"Everyone in the punk scene has their own look" Few minutes later..... "Everyone had black hair so I just followed along" That's what destroyed Punk and Metal. Conformity.
Yeah, the 'uniform'. Wearing what they think they're supposed to be wearing and worried if their peers will approve or disapprove. Even Lydon and Strummer, for example, saw the futility in that.
@@WarrenCromartie2 metal is pretty conventional now i love some of it A LOT but it has many people with conservative minds who see themselves as alternative neck beard dude bros in a commercial uniform unifyingly belching to standardised music
Yep remember it well ..I got into it in 78 when I was 15 , there were some pretty bad bands apart from clash etc The Manchester and midlands had some good punk bands I seem to recall .
@Frank Filthyfingeris that comment aimed at me...?if so i'll educate you,something you are in dire need of going by your simplistic youtube name!,i am self employed always have been!,my skills have taken me to far and distant lands,enabling me to broaden my horizons and see the world as it really is!!!...obviously for someone as yourself,plagued with failed asperations and dreams i can see how throwing out derogatory comments may ease your pain.
Interesting documentary, what a different time it was. Punk is alive and well in California, many of the early bands from LA and SF still play fairly often. The Buzzcocks play here in San Francisco probably once a year still, they will be here again in May. Thanks for uploading this. Pete Shelley RIP
I find it hilarious that Sex Pistols and Ramones T shirts are sold in high street retail shops and people wear them without knowing who they are. My mate saw a girl in a Ramones T shirt a few years ago and he said ''Hey ho, Lets go! Her reaction was brilliant, she didn't have a clue.
many people styled like one´s cultures and how one grew up. in my case, like a l l decades and cultures i grew up in. this is absolutely fucking mental.
I know. The last big thing as far as i see was rave, 30 years ago. No there is nothing. I think that music seems to have run its course. But maybe something will come up in the future. The wsy i see it, punk was an attitude (DIY, truth telling, very political - but naive etc..).the music was just the glue that attracted and bound people around that. Perhaps the new generation will develop a new attitude, a new approach, with something new coming from that. I hope so.
Looking back on it now its really funny how the English establishment really felt that their whole way of life was threatened by punk rock in the 70s much more so by bands like the Who or the Stones in the 60s.
DEB Up till December 2018 I worked at a company called 'FARREL' who are almost opposite to 'ARROW MILL' which is till there, I used to go for a walk every dinnertime up the Rochdale Canal ,and up through the gap past 'ARROW' back to FARREL!. I met you at Martin Ryan's book launch, and Steve Shy too who told me about this documentary ! cheers kid! dx
Hi David, it was lovely to meet you at Martin's book launch in November. I don't know the area where Arrow Mill is well but I've bern up to Rochdale a few times with Denise. Great buildings they must be and still standing. Great documentary isn't, fond memories of back then. The Electric Circus was brilliant we were all gutted when it was shut. Such a shame that it has been pulled down.
Having a go at young people expressing themselves and being free whilst behind the scenes turning a blind eye to everything Savile was up to, not saying anyone in the studio here knew, just the organisation itself
selective aren't they.... the hypocrisy was a big part of the punk rock anger. violent police.. no jobs unless you had the right accent... corrupt politics.. hypocritical churches.. no.. stop the kids stop the punk rock.. that's the problem. total BS.
These same hand wringing critics were all strangely silent when rap music came along with it's blatant themes of sexism, drugs and violence. Anybody would think they were a bunch of spineless hypocrites...🤔.
I'm English and was a punk in the seventies and eighties,then progressed to thrash and death metal in later years.this is an exceptional insight into Great Britain.this is a slice of social history and needs to be shown in schools etc to show young people how life can be changed.and that parents really are narrow minded🍺
It all boils down to freedom and freedom of speech. These young adults have every right to express themselves any way they say fit, even proselytizing. We make up our own minds or we are zombies.
He did butter ads so his band could make more albums and do a tour the BBC or related companies would never help him with anything they never forgave him for attempting to out Jimmy sovile they prefer to help dirty perverts instead
Thanks for uploading this. Pete Shelley is a hero! I am proud to have had my picture taken with him. :-) What's up with the extra 20 minutes at the end? lol.
Punk. Saved my soul! Helped me discover and maintain my values. my Inner Voice/Intuition - or as i tend to find myself saying more often theses days, "13yr old Me" Is the best voice of reason around me these days. Especially the way 'they' are ramping up the surveillance/nanny state rules and regulations etc. It's a shame the way the younger generations of today are more concerned about how other people see them - whilst being told what they should be concerned about by the very institutions that are pulling the wool over their eyes, rounding them up into their sheep pens...etc and when i do find myself coming close to despair for the current state of things, i can always cheer myself up with a good dose of Punk Rock, transporting me back 3-4 decades and rediscovering my strength - and that there is still hope lol. ...anyone else out there had thoughts of creating a Punk 'retirement village'? Not necessarily exclusively punk, but independent thinking music minded people that don't mind a bit of noise lol. I'm only 50 atm, but the idea won't leave me alone....a privately owned by the residents village, not state owned....one basic rule - Respect....oh shit i'm think-typing out loud again....
Looking for other episodes of Brass Tacks in 1976-1977. Is this the only episode you have? (Don't mistake me, this is an incredibly important episode and I've watched it a few times. Thanks for posting it.)
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John Peel an absolute legendary pioneering man who revealed so much brilliant music. Life is dull without this man
Yeah peel knew talent unlike Cowell, he just likes singers John was more interested in bands 😊
@@petebest22 Peel also liked all kinds of music from Punk, Techno, Reggae, African etc
Went to John Peels funeral service,bless him...❤
@Enda Dorgan ..
My lifelong obssession with The Fall helped along by Peel.Played the sort of music thats rarely heard now,in the country of Ed Sheerin blandness.
Pete Shelley - best dressed man on the show by a long shot. That along with intelligence and articulate comment. Miss you Pete!
And he wrote catchy tunes. Btw, it's a long chalk, not a long shot, that's an Americanism.
@@canturgan 'long shot' dear boy.
@@theaylesburycyclist8756 I thought a long shot meant something that was really unlikely to happen?
@@Unfunny_Username_389 You can use this analogy for describing such a scenario as the one you that you described.
@@theaylesburycyclist8756 and no other anthology .
John was the first person to play punk on the radio and introduced it to millions of young kids like me and it changed our lives.
it reinforced what was already inside of you
@@sexobscura facts
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5.02 respect to tbat lovely mum helping her daughter create her own unique identity aided with a Singer sewing machine..my lovely mum in Liverpool did the same thing 😊
The Drones new line up launches in Manchester, January 21st 2017. The girl with her mum is Denise Shaw.....she attended the Drones press launch a few weeks ago (Nov 2016) and is very much alive and well.
I got stopped five days in a row on my way to school by the police because my school didn't have uniforms and we could dress as we wanted, I also used to get grown men starting on me and had bricks and bottles thrown at me by those adult men when I was 13/14 because I was a punk, yet I was the one seen as the violent threat! But I never attacked, abused or insulted people in the street just because of how they wore their clothes and hair.
same things happened to me on a regular basis,grown 30 odd something aged blokes punching a 13/14 year old lad in the face,guts,real big hard men,hopefully they are suffering in misery n pain now,twats bullys,cowards.
This was so common when i was a kid. Living in Michigan...land of beer and the CRC? i was harassed by grown men and women...ultra conservative ADULTS in public, restaurants, on the bus, in the streets.
"DYKE!"
"they all wanted to beat my ass for the committing the cardinal sin of wearing ripped flannel, doc martens, and the worst of all....OH MY GOD...GIRL WITH A MOHAWK!!!
I got used to it by age 14 but it was always surreal...
I was one of maybe 20 punks in a school with about 800 hicks and preppies in georgia. Had some good scuffles in the hallways as a result haha. Good times
I got the same treatment here in U.S., where It's conservative. They want everyone modest and wholesome. They frown on civil liberties and personal freedom.
Punk was middle class rebellion, it was never meant for the working class and the police came down hard on those emulating their 'betters', it's like todays Antifa, rich kids with influential parents running round setting fire to things but the police only step in when 'oiks' fight back or copy them, one rule for me another for thee, always been
The guy with the glasses looks like the archetypal BBC character........"Mr. Reginald Tightbuttocks".
John Peel was an utter legend. He just blew all argument out of the water. Total champ!
JOHN PEEL - dead set legend. His opening lines are as relevant today as they were then. Superb.
Old man decides he doesn't like Punk, so nobody can see it live in his town. Great political system.
Banning concerts just because he personally doesn't like the music just proved the punk scene right
The Clergy (hypercrites) The Politicians (Lying degenerates )
Nothing has changed with politicians 40 plus years on the biggest bunch of lying bastards that are only in it to line their pockets
sounds like a Covid plague believer.
Nice one, thanks, I worked on Brass Tacks (later delightfully parodied by Chris Morris in Brass Eye) as an assistant film editor for the film inserts, not on this one but I remember watching it. A great title sequence showing the then cutting edge technology at New Broadcasting House, sadly missed, although the ghosts of Jimmy Savile and Stuart Hall may roam the site. When I try to tell youngsters we used cellotape to join the bits of film together they think I'm senile. The film bits were very well done, when film-making was a craft. Gigantic studio cameras, with blokes pulling the cables around like the 1930's. All done live remember, all those decisions. Michael Wood with his shirt undone on the phone-line response after the crazy vicar did all those In Search of The Trojan Wars etc., documentaries, Great Railway Journeys, played in an amateur rock band, he was famous for his pieces to camera somewhere up a mountain with his tight jeans displaying his assets. The subjects of this piece did very well, they must have trusted the programme makers to an extent. I hope those who took part get too see it.
Do you know what would have happened to the full tape? I'm curious about Shelley's response to Cooper at the very end of the program.
Draconian, medieval and bleak England gave rise to this vibrant and lush scene. Where is this innovation and free thought today? Its much needed.
"They're trying to ban this and trying to ban that" Somethings never change.
Not saying people should take street drugs, but look what happened when they banned legal highs this century, much more lethal dangerous drugs have come out such as cannabinoids that kill people, I know personally someone who died from spice.
Yep , it's all about fear and the rich turning groups of poor people against eachother , while the rich themselves continue robbing us all behind the curtain , and shore up their own power.
Love that punk girl's Deidre Langton glasses lol! Insane to think she'd be in her 60s now...
Some people in 60's still look pretty damned good, not me but some!😂
The Church calling punk dangerous and immoral are using spot-on terms that more appropriately describe themselves.
Gabby Hyman Ha I know how the hell can the clergy be so self righteous
Not one single punk requires 10% of your check to hang with them, or force one fiction book at you and expect you to believe the crap. Hmmm I don't think I've ever heard of a single punk organization who rape young boys and girls then cover it up.
Yeah, there are no hypocrites in the secular world........ non-Christians are perfect and love pointing their bony fingers at Christians.
@@JRStephens5005 if the glove fits
fuck yeah it is, punk is degenerate, immoral, and fucking proud of it
Kings road on a Saturday was an amazing punk promenade back then, no film or pic could really ever capture it fully, it was a unique atmosphere & it's not just that culture that's passed but the wider culture too now, not for the better neither.
we need a return to music like this, its gone so stale these days im having to resort to playing my old punk/new wave records.
I never stopped playing them :-)
Hey mate it's a bunch of noise,but at least it's LOUD noise!
Ive got an original Johnny thunders heartbreakers lamf cassette from 77. It was my uncle's and he gave it me. I dont have a cassette player. But i have got the damned the clash on vinyl. Punk rocks the best. I was born around that time. But my mom wasnt a punk. She was a mod.
You should listen to IDLES they’re a great punk band from Bristol and they’re a great laugh as well as intelligent. :) The Chats are a pretty good band too, from Aussie
@@rexterrocks Same, I never got a CD player so relied on the collection I had during that bleak period! Cassettes got me through to the early 90's, and after that the working touring bands (that ultimately came from the [real] punk scenes anyways), e.g. Against Me!, Melvins/Big Business, Neurosis, et al, almost always still offered vinyl for sale online and at shows. Vinyl never went out of style for electronic, techno/dance, and hiphop, so basically it was only the mainstream crap, fake punk, itunes algoryhthmic formula pop etc, that wasn't available. I didn't miss anything, don't think 😉
What a woman Denise Lloyd (Shaw) is,she as been a great friend from the minute we meet back in the 70's and will always been the female face of punk in the North :)
John Peel ... A Legend ... R.I.P Mate ... all the best.
Never seen the complete broadcast ,just the usual clips .So many things can be learned from this ,thanks for the upload .
Thanks for putting this up. Fascinating stuff for an old punk like me.
some great rare footage of The Vibrators live here.And John Peel speaking his mind...Riot at a Stranglers gig? 1 of many! lol..
And the Drones !
Lovely to know Brian Trueman is still going strongly...90 years young...! 👍👍👍
Thank a bunch for this - hilarious and a reminder of how great change can be.
Fascinating to watch this in 2019... John Peel now long gone and Pete Shelley having now passed away recently. Seems odd to consider that all those elder people would have been born in the early 1900s... when I cast my mind back to these times we kids were all generally a little bit frightened by this movement because it really was a massive change... the charts were full of pap like the Wurzels and totally rubbish like Brotherhood of Man which just felt like falling into a pile of pink cushions coated with talcum powder whilst eating a turkish delight... however that frightening image was really just the media. Sure there were a lot of knob ends back and to some degree I think there was a kinda hooligan element but in some ways that was a safety valve.... I think what came after punk was a whole other thing and the musical landscape from 77-81 was just pure magic. It really does strike a contrast with the somewhat banal music scene of today...
Thank you very much for this.
thanks for putting this up. it was very cool
Great footage of the Vibrators and the Drones! Love it!
I was 16 in 78 and followed punk and watched bands that came to Nottingham. I never saw any violence or vandalism. Just young people having a great time.
Thank God for punk. The most important social change in the last 50 years. It truly changed the UK for the best. A peaceful revolution
Thanks for this !!!!!!!!!
Councillors, pastors and the BBC, the voices of the establishment pre punk era, the only bunch missing is the Royals. People that weren't around in that era simply have no idea of how repressive the UK was when it comes to the music scene/music industry. If it hadn't been for the punk thing in the 70's a huge chunk of today's musical genre's simply would not exist. No matter what you're musical tastes, if you value modern music then you owe a debt of gratitude to the punks (as well as earlier musical trends and events)!
And as for Councillor Bernard Brook-Partridge, well he should have been taken out and shot! What a pompous tosser he was....
Thank god Punk won the day!
***** Stick "Councillor Bernard Brook-Partridge" into Google then search, then select images. Oh the irony, it cracks me up!
The desire to control another persons free will is the personality trait of psychopathy. No wonder the BBC and the church turned out to be a vipers nest of paedophiles
These were the exact same bastards who protected Jimmy Saville and the clergy abusing children. This tells you everything you need to know about why and how that happened.
I agree wholeheartedly! A lot of today’s music such as EDM/big room house would not be around had it not been for punk rock in the 70s! Me being into rave music of the early 90s, the Madchester sound, house, trance and Wigan Pier bounce, all of that can be traced right back to the punk era and the music itself later evolved into post punk then New Romanticism and eventually acid house raves. A massive debt is indeed owed to those at the forefront of the punk scene!
John Peel was a great man.
John peel was just soooo right ! he made a valid point ...
@Jimmy Durex Fuck off Durex
And a massive peedo. You 8 years ago nonce-lover!
Great doco. Best overview of the punk movement I’ve seen.
I love the guys with the comb overs! That is something you don't see much any more
Can't believe I haven't seen this before. Great stuff.
To me, punk was all about freedom of speech and how people saw themselves. I do not think that it was harmful at all. Politicians talk crap whereas the punk bands spoke the truth about the crap society we live in. I thought the music was different and quiet exiting at the time - it needed to happen anyway - it was certainly different to anything gone before. Anyway, some great musicians came out of that era
Bloody hell - the bloke right at the start is 'Odgie' former editor of 'Back Street Heroes' then 'AWOL'. Hot Rod builder, drag racer, anarchist, great writer. Amazing bloke - never sold out (perhaps he wasn't offered enough money)...
Not seen this before. The punks and Peel destroyed them in the debate. I've met thousands of people and punks have always been the most intelligent and humanitarian. You may have been able to say a similar thing about rap if it had followed the direction of Public Enemy, KRS-1, Hiphoprisy etc instead of the boasting capitalist shit it has become . But then punk was capitalist in the 90s anyway...
Punk was capitalist in the nineties?
What ...like Chumbawamba?
Punk was the attitude. The music and sound was secondary
You're right about punks being the best people. I love them
drinkyeflaggons wasn’t really capitalist if you look into The Casualties and bands like them such as The Devotchkas
If you look back through history you'll see any group that has the ability to travel and spread a message the government of the time doesn't like will be banned or subject to restrictions. Actors, musicians, travelling minstrels even wandering beggars and itinerant labourers. That's why Romanies became known as Gypsies. They were described as coming from Egypt and being able to perform dark magic as the wandered the countryside. Egyptian became Gypsy. They actually originated in India. The elites have to create fear of other groups to keep the attention away from themselves and the crap they are getting up to. Some people unfortunately believe what they are told.
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I actually first fell head-over for Pete Shelley when he was new wave and I was 11. By 15 I was a street kid and growing up on West Coast punk rock with other kids doing everything ourselves since it was the only way. I was putting on some shows, making the flyers, and publishing a zine for trade around the world, made possible by a mod kid who had a crush on me and a score job at Kinko's; I had a really nice cast-metal butterfly-clasp Buzzcocks pin on my hat and no idea that what we were doing and the way we did it was directly the ideaology brought to punk rock by our Pete. I didn't even know the guy in Buzzcocks was the same guy from the dance clubs. I wish I knew more about him, this man I guess I was going to fall toward no matter what or when, but other than music performances there is so little out there for us to see what he was like, what he had to say and how he said it; even the few sentencss uttered here are so precious, thank you for sharing this programme.
John Peel calls out the hypocrisy in a wonderful way
BRILLIANT. THANK YOU 😊❤️🇬🇧
Your welcolme.
you'd think those times of inane prejudice would be gone, but i was in a pub in blackpool with my mate whilst on our way to the rebellion festival in 2018 and the landlord said to us, "I wouldn't go into the town this weekend, it's full of punks". Then we explained that that was where we were going and silence ensued
They were all rather nice people really.
Really enjoyed watching that!
Excelente DOCUMENTAL sobre el PUNK !!
Love this ... what a great social history document
36:48 - love Paul hanging on to Peel's every word. Excellent.
Mum/Mom's are unconditional!🥰
These councillors or mps go off about the vandalism at punk rock concerts and banning the gigs BUT how much vandalism & violence happens at football matches!!!! they didn't ban football!!!
They tried.
Fantastic! Cheers for uploading...
p.s. Interesting insight @ 49:35
such a young Michael Wood! That lovely voice
"Everyone in the punk scene has their own look"
Few minutes later.....
"Everyone had black hair so I just followed along"
That's what destroyed Punk and Metal. Conformity.
Yeah, the 'uniform'. Wearing what they think they're supposed to be wearing and worried if their peers will approve or disapprove. Even Lydon and Strummer, for example, saw the futility in that.
She said at first she just joined everyone else but she soon developed her own style
Yeah I'll put cochineal in my hair cos some wife in the factory told me to, then I'll give my poor, weak mother lip. Is that punk?
Metal is still huge. It's musicians music, unlike punk. Punk doesn't have many redeeming features, beyond the anger and energy.
@@WarrenCromartie2 metal is pretty conventional now i love some of it A LOT but it has many people with conservative minds who see themselves as alternative neck beard dude bros in a commercial uniform unifyingly belching to standardised music
fantastic quality !!!
John Peel FTW, You need this man on your side.
Ha, it's Zippy
Excellent - first time I've seen this one. Brill - long live punk.
I phoned the number on the screen and it was unavailable!
Don't you know when someone is joking? Obviously not!
The area code is 0161 these days .....
Sameoldfitup I'm from 1965 and still available at this point.
you need to add a one between the 0 and 6 ;-)
@@Sameoldfitup thanks you answered my question about what year this was made
Yep remember it well ..I got into it in 78 when I was 15 , there were some pretty bad bands apart from clash etc The Manchester and midlands had some good punk bands I seem to recall .
Zounds were my favourite
Wow. How bizarre to look back.
The ending to this video is so punk.
Great doc !!
I wonder where they are now?
Most have probably passed away now.
43 years have sonce gone and the culture has changed beyond recognition since 1977.
heath way4 not for the better ... issues raised are still true to this day :(
Quite a few of us still about m8!,many of us,including myself went on to become travellers a natural progression i felt!!
@Frank Filthyfingeris that comment aimed at me...?if so i'll educate you,something you are in dire need of going by your simplistic youtube name!,i am self employed always have been!,my skills have taken me to far and distant lands,enabling me to broaden my horizons and see the world as it really is!!!...obviously for someone as yourself,plagued with failed asperations and dreams i can see how throwing out derogatory comments may ease your pain.
Every time a music scene gets outlawed it just makes it more popular.
It's quite laudable how these people were taken so seriously,....I wish this could happen today !!..
brilliant,brilliant,brilliant
For the non conformist teenager the punk scene was a breath of fresh air, I was 15 in 76 and very much a mod but obviously loved the whole scene.
Interesting documentary, what a different time it was. Punk is alive and well in California, many of the early bands from LA and SF still play fairly often. The Buzzcocks play here in San Francisco probably once a year still, they will be here again in May. Thanks for uploading this. Pete Shelley RIP
I find it hilarious that Sex Pistols and Ramones T shirts are sold in high street retail shops and people wear them without knowing who they are. My mate saw a girl in a Ramones T shirt a few years ago and he said ''Hey ho, Lets go! Her reaction was brilliant, she didn't have a clue.
I saw a colleague wear a Ramones T-shirt and when I asked about it, he said he just liked the way it looked...
@@Outwhere I must admit The Ramones logo does look cool, regardless of whether you know who they are.
many people styled like one´s cultures and how one grew up. in my case, like a l l decades and cultures i grew up in. this is absolutely fucking mental.
God i remember this like yesterday
We need a new music movement that tells everyone at the top to eff off.
There's never been one, if a real one came along it would be shut down before it even plugged in
I know. The last big thing as far as i see was rave, 30 years ago. No there is nothing.
I think that music seems to have run its course. But maybe something will come up in the future.
The wsy i see it, punk was an attitude (DIY, truth telling, very political - but naive etc..).the music was just the glue that attracted and bound people around that.
Perhaps the new generation will develop a new attitude, a new approach, with something new coming from that. I hope so.
One that tells SJW's to frick off would be good..
@@dodibenabba1378 I am still at a loss as to what "SJW" means.
@@MrThecarebear "SJW" - Social Justice Warrior
Steve ShyTalk introduced me to my amazing wife.. Great guy.
Interesting doco and was a cool introduction to John Peel for me.
Warsaw were already playing, I can't stop thinking about the Jd guys at those gigs
Looking back on it now its really funny how the English establishment really felt that their whole way of life was threatened by punk rock in the 70s much more so by bands like the Who or the Stones in the 60s.
A fascinating glance back at a time long past. A storm in a teacup. Fear of music. Now there's a title haha ....
you have to remember all these old guys in suits grew up in the 1920s.
This originally aired in August, 1977. By January, 1978, the first wave of Punk was over.
There's some wild digital jitter correction on this that's making feel like the acid is kicking in.
DEB Up till December 2018 I worked at a company called 'FARREL' who are almost opposite to 'ARROW MILL' which is till there, I used to go for a walk every dinnertime up the Rochdale Canal ,and up through the gap past 'ARROW' back to FARREL!. I met you at Martin Ryan's book launch, and Steve Shy too who told me about this documentary ! cheers kid! dx
Hi David, it was lovely to meet you at Martin's book launch in November.
I don't know the area where Arrow Mill is well but I've bern up to Rochdale a few times with Denise. Great buildings they must be and still standing.
Great documentary isn't, fond memories of back then. The Electric Circus was brilliant we were all gutted when it was shut. Such a shame that it has been pulled down.
Having a go at young people expressing themselves and being free whilst behind the scenes turning a blind eye to everything Savile was up to, not saying anyone in the studio here knew, just the organisation itself
selective aren't they.... the hypocrisy was a big part of the punk rock anger. violent police.. no jobs unless you had the right accent... corrupt politics.. hypocritical churches.. no.. stop the kids stop the punk rock.. that's the problem. total BS.
These same hand wringing critics were all strangely silent when rap music came along with it's blatant themes of sexism, drugs and violence. Anybody would think they were a bunch of spineless hypocrites...🤔.
I'm English and was a punk in the seventies and eighties,then progressed to thrash and death metal in later years.this is an exceptional insight into Great Britain.this is a slice of social history and needs to be shown in schools etc to show young people how life can be changed.and that parents really are narrow minded🍺
It all boils down to freedom and freedom of speech. These young adults have every right to express themselves any way they say fit, even proselytizing. We make up our own minds or we are zombies.
Punk never turned out to be a threat to anything and ther innovators ended up advertising butter. However still the best thing that happened in music.
He did butter ads so his band could make more albums and do a tour the BBC or related companies would never help him with anything they never forgave him for attempting to out Jimmy sovile they prefer to help dirty perverts instead
Well done John Peel!
When England was a great country..R.i.p 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Amazing Band 'The Vibrators'! dx
My fav punk doc
Finishes just as Pete is trying to say something.
Bloody hell. That's me as a kid 10:00 with my dad wow. Punks noo
I love that ending "I AM a Christian!..." *parp, parp, parp, parp, parp, parp, parp..* time to switch off!
Pete Shelley.....God, we miss you mate.
I'd love to see a follow up today with these people.
Was great to hear The Stranglers mentioned! Another top UK doco:)
Best opening statement ever.
Pete Shelley, Leigh's greatest after Georgie Fame and John Woods. God, we miss you mate.
Thanks for uploading this.
Pete Shelley is a hero! I am proud to have had my picture taken with him. :-)
What's up with the extra 20 minutes at the end? lol.
What an opener, Brian Trueman playing with his bllocks in his sanforized terelyne kecks.
Punk. Saved my soul! Helped me discover and maintain my values. my Inner Voice/Intuition - or as i tend to find myself saying more often theses days, "13yr old Me" Is the best voice of reason around me these days. Especially the way 'they' are ramping up the surveillance/nanny state rules and regulations etc. It's a shame the way the younger generations of today are more concerned about how other people see them - whilst being told what they should be concerned about by the very institutions that are pulling the wool over their eyes, rounding them up into their sheep pens...etc
and when i do find myself coming close to despair for the current state of things, i can always cheer myself up with a good dose of Punk Rock, transporting me back 3-4 decades and rediscovering my strength - and that there is still hope lol.
...anyone else out there had thoughts of creating a Punk 'retirement village'? Not necessarily exclusively punk, but independent thinking music minded people that don't mind a bit of noise lol. I'm only 50 atm, but the idea won't leave me alone....a privately owned by the residents village, not state owned....one basic rule - Respect....oh shit i'm think-typing out loud again....
John Peel you legend
Looking for other episodes of Brass Tacks in 1976-1977. Is this the only episode you have? (Don't mistake me, this is an incredibly important episode and I've watched it a few times. Thanks for posting it.)
The girl at 07.30 dying her hair purple...............has the finest ‘Clown Eyebrows’ I’ve ever seen