Elllen White said No meat-eaters will be "translated" at Christ's coming (Counsels on Diet and Foods p. 380). Furthermore White said" But we do say that flesh meat is not right for God’s people. It animalizes human beings." ( EGW, MS 50, 1904.) Where in the Bible is these writings. The Adventist health message, which Adventists internally call the “right arm of the gospel”, is the organization’s primary public relations and proselytizing tool. If one looks closely at this message, however, it becomes clear that it is not a message taught in the Bible.The Adventist prophetess whose writings have defined Adventist theology claimed visions from God-yet those visions often did not teach nor support biblical truth. Instead, they taught practices and beliefs that were and still are taught by practitioners of paganism, Eastern religions, and the new age.
Hi Abraham, she did not say that in Counsels on Diet and Foods, p 380. Read again. A person's health is a prime concern of God, and IS taught in Scripture. "Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies." 1 Cor 6:19-20 "Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, evenas thy soul prospereth." 3 John 1:2 "So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God." 1 Cor 10:31
Bachelor's presentation mis-leading. He cherry picked the story of Ellen White. Even her husband said she had no teaching but stole sermons from other pastors and had no message. Disappointing.
@@shiningstar3312 are you aware former SDA Pastor here in youtube uploaded their video to exposed your false prophet. Come on dont keep denying. If you dont want to attack stop attacking Sunday keeper.
The Holy Bible is comprised of 66 Books written over a period of about 1,500 years by over 40 authors. It was written in three languages on three continents. It fits together into one cohesive story with an appropriate beginning, a logical ending, a central Character, and a consistent theme. Yet in 1844 another “prophetess” came to the front she compiled 40 books and 5000 periodical articles during her lifetime. During her lifetime she Ellen G White wrote more than 5,000 periodical articles, 40 books, and reported over 2000 experiences, most of which she was convinced were communications with “supernatural entities.” Today over 100 titles are available in English, including compilations from her 50,000 manuscript pages. If you add all of her writings it overpowers the Holy Book. Shocking friends, shocking. Today her followers say In the Seventh Adventist “Ministry Magazine” of Oct. 1981 the SDA movement made the following statement and have never retracted it: "We as Seventh day Movement believe the revelation and inspiration of both the Bible and Ellen White's writings to be of equal quality". Can this be true? The Desire of Ages, The Great Controversy, Patriarchs and Prophets, Counsels on diet and foods and all her other books should be rejected as it blasphemy as we cannot add to God’s Final Revelation, the Bible Only. Sola scriptura rejects any original infallible authority, other than the Bible. The Bible alone and the Bible in its entirety as the sole rule of faith for the Christian.
Hi Abraham, you got some of the Conference quote wording wrong and that may have affected your conclusion. These affirmations may help you understand better. Please let me know if you have any questions. God bless! In the Statement of Fundamental Beliefs voted by the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists at Dallas in April, 1980, the Preamble states: "Seventh-day Adventists accept the Bible as their only creed and hold certain fundamental beliefs to be the teaching of the Holy Scriptures." Paragraph one reflects the church's understanding of the inspiration and authority of the Scriptures, while paragraph seventeen reflects the church's understanding of the writings of Ellen White in relation to the Scriptures. These paragraphs read as follows: 1. The Holy Scriptures The Holy Scriptures, Old and New Testaments, are the written Word of God, given by divine inspiration through holy men of God who spoke and wrote as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. In this Word, God has committed to man the knowledge necessary for salvation. The Holy Scriptures are the infallible revelation of His will. They are the standard of character, the test of experience, the authoritative revealer of doctrines, and the trustworthy record of God's acts in history. Support is found in these Bible passages: 2 Peter 1:20,21; 2 Timothy 3:16,17; Psalms 119:105; Proverbs 30:5,6; Isaiah 8:20; John 17:17; 1 Thessalonians 2:13; Hebrews 4:12. 2. The Gift Of Prophecy One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and was manifested in the ministry of Ellen G. White. As the Lord's messenger, her writings are a continuing and authoritative source of truth which provide for the church comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction. They also make clear that the Bible is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested. Support is found in these Bible passages: Joel 2:28,29; Acts 2:14-21; Hebrews 1:1-3; Revelation 12:17; Revelation 19:10. The following affirmations and denials speak to the issues which have been raised about the inspiration and authority of the Ellen White writings and their relation to the Bible. These clarifications should be taken as a whole. They are an attempt to express the present understanding of Seventh-day Adventists. They are not to be construed as a substitute for, or a part of, the two doctrinal statements quoted above. AFFIRMATIONS We believe that Scripture is the divinely revealed word of God and is inspired by the Holy Spirit. We believe that the canon of Scripture is composed only of the sixty-six books of the Old and New Testaments. We believe that Scripture is the foundation of faith and the final authority in all matters of doctrine and practice. We believe that Scripture is the Word of God in human language. We believe that Scripture teaches that the gift of prophecy will be manifest in the Christian church after New Testament times. We believe that the ministry and writings of Ellen White were a manifestation of the gift of prophecy. We believe that Ellen White was inspired by the Holy Spirit and that her writings, the product of that inspiration, are applicable and authoritative, especially to Seventh-day Adventists. We believe that the purposes of the Ellen White writings include guidance in understanding the teaching of Scripture and application of these teachings, with prophetic urgency, to the spiritual and moral life. We believe that the acceptance of the prophetic gift of Ellen White is important to the nurture and unity of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. We believe that Ellen White's use of literary sources and assistants finds parallels in some of the writings of the Bible. DENIALS We do not believe that the quality or degree of inspiration in the writings of Ellen White is different from that of Scripture. We do not believe that the writings of Ellen White are an addition to the canon of Sacred Scripture. We do not believe that the writings of Ellen White function as the foundation and final authority of Christian faith as does Scripture. We do not believe that the writings of Ellen White may be used as the basis of doctrine. We do not believe that the study of the writings of Ellen White may be used to replace the study of Scripture. We do not believe that Scripture can be understood only through the writings of Ellen White. We do not believe that the writings of Ellen White exhaust the meaning of Scripture. We do not believe that the writings of Ellen White are essential for the proclamation of the truths of Scripture to society at large. We do not believe that the writings of Ellen White are the product of mere Christian piety. We do not believe that Ellen White's use of literary sources and assistants negates the inspiration of her writings. We conclude, therefore, that a correct understanding of the inspiration and authority of the writings of Ellen White will avoid two extremes: (1) regarding these writings as functioning on a canonical level identical with Scripture, or (2) considering them as ordinary Christian literature.
@@Nirky why did you deny falsed claim of Ellen G. White. SDA keep covering and denial false claim of SDA prophet. So many former SDA Pastor uploaded there video here to exposed Ellen G. White.
@@nardwilgatal1247 "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us." 1 John 2:19 Hundreds of thousands of Christians leave their churches every year, including many moving TO the Adventist Church, but nobody makes a fuss about leaving quite like an ex-Adventist, right? I find that interesting. There are many ex-Adventist websites & videos which claim to "expose" errors of both the Church & Ellen White, yes? What I would request of you is to think of her biggest, most damaging anti-Bible error, and then quote right here in this thread what she says about it from her writings. Please do not tell in your words what she says, QUOTE IT from her writings, along with its SOURCE, so it can be easily looked up, and we can discuss it openly right here. Does that sound good?
Elllen White said No meat-eaters will be "translated" at Christ's coming (Counsels on Diet and Foods p. 380). Furthermore White said" But we do say that flesh meat is not right for God’s people. It animalizes human beings." ( EGW, MS 50, 1904.) Where in the Bible is these writings. The Adventist health message, which Adventists internally call the “right arm of the gospel”, is the organization’s primary public relations and proselytizing tool. If one looks closely at this message, however, it becomes clear that it is not a message taught in the Bible.The Adventist prophetess whose writings have defined Adventist theology claimed visions from God-yet those visions often did not teach nor support biblical truth. Instead, they taught practices and beliefs that were and still are taught by practitioners of paganism, Eastern religions, and the new age.
Hi Abraham, she did not say that in Counsels on Diet and Foods, p 380. Read again.
A person's health is a prime concern of God, and IS taught in Scripture.
"Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies." 1 Cor 6:19-20
"Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, evenas thy soul prospereth." 3 John 1:2
"So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God." 1 Cor 10:31
Bachelor's presentation mis-leading. He cherry picked the story of Ellen White. Even her husband said she had no teaching but stole sermons from other pastors and had no message. Disappointing.
Really? Are you able to support your conclusions with facts?
@@Nirky Do your research!!!
@@robinmarsilii8668 Did it years ago, that's why I'm a Seventh-day Adventists today, praise the Lord Jesus! God bless you.
@@Nirky True. I did my research too. Robin is a liar. Only the wise will know.
@@shiningstar3312 are you aware former SDA Pastor here in youtube uploaded their video to exposed your false prophet. Come on dont keep denying. If you dont want to attack stop attacking Sunday keeper.
The Holy Bible is comprised of 66 Books written over a period of about 1,500 years by over 40 authors. It was written in three languages on three continents. It fits together into one cohesive story with an appropriate beginning, a logical ending, a central Character, and a consistent theme. Yet in 1844 another “prophetess” came to the front she compiled 40 books and 5000 periodical articles during her lifetime. During her lifetime she Ellen G White wrote more than 5,000 periodical articles, 40 books, and reported over 2000 experiences, most of which she was convinced were communications with “supernatural entities.” Today over 100 titles are available in English, including compilations from her 50,000 manuscript pages. If you add all of her writings it overpowers the Holy Book. Shocking friends, shocking.
Today her followers say In the Seventh Adventist “Ministry Magazine” of Oct. 1981 the SDA movement made the following statement and have never retracted it: "We as Seventh day Movement believe the revelation and inspiration of both the Bible and Ellen White's writings to be of equal quality". Can this be true? The Desire of Ages, The Great Controversy, Patriarchs and Prophets, Counsels on diet and foods and all her other books should be rejected as it blasphemy as we cannot add to God’s Final Revelation, the Bible Only.
Sola scriptura rejects any original infallible authority, other than the Bible. The Bible alone and the Bible in its entirety as the sole rule of faith for the Christian.
Hi Abraham, you got some of the Conference quote wording wrong and that may have affected your conclusion. These affirmations may help you understand better. Please let me know if you have any questions. God bless!
In the Statement of Fundamental Beliefs voted by the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists at Dallas in April, 1980, the Preamble states: "Seventh-day Adventists accept the Bible as their only creed and hold certain fundamental beliefs to be the teaching of the Holy Scriptures." Paragraph one reflects the church's understanding of the inspiration and authority of the Scriptures, while paragraph seventeen reflects the church's understanding of the writings of Ellen White in relation to the Scriptures. These paragraphs read as follows:
1. The Holy Scriptures
The Holy Scriptures, Old and New Testaments, are the written Word of God, given by divine inspiration through holy men of God who spoke and wrote as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. In this Word, God has committed to man the knowledge necessary for salvation. The Holy Scriptures are the infallible revelation of His will. They are the standard of character, the test of experience, the authoritative revealer of doctrines, and the trustworthy record of God's acts in history. Support is found in these Bible passages: 2 Peter 1:20,21; 2 Timothy 3:16,17; Psalms 119:105; Proverbs 30:5,6; Isaiah 8:20; John 17:17; 1 Thessalonians 2:13; Hebrews 4:12.
2. The Gift Of Prophecy
One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and was manifested in the ministry of Ellen G. White. As the Lord's messenger, her writings are a continuing and authoritative source of truth which provide for the church comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction. They also make clear that the Bible is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested. Support is found in these Bible passages: Joel 2:28,29; Acts 2:14-21; Hebrews 1:1-3; Revelation 12:17; Revelation 19:10.
The following affirmations and denials speak to the issues which have been raised about the inspiration and authority of the Ellen White writings and their relation to the Bible. These clarifications should be taken as a whole. They are an attempt to express the present understanding of Seventh-day Adventists. They are not to be construed as a substitute for, or a part of, the two doctrinal statements quoted above.
AFFIRMATIONS
We believe that Scripture is the divinely revealed word of God and is inspired by the Holy Spirit.
We believe that the canon of Scripture is composed only of the sixty-six books of the Old and New Testaments.
We believe that Scripture is the foundation of faith and the final authority in all matters of doctrine and practice.
We believe that Scripture is the Word of God in human language.
We believe that Scripture teaches that the gift of prophecy will be manifest in the Christian church after New Testament times.
We believe that the ministry and writings of Ellen White were a manifestation of the gift of prophecy.
We believe that Ellen White was inspired by the Holy Spirit and that her writings, the product of that inspiration, are applicable and authoritative, especially to Seventh-day Adventists.
We believe that the purposes of the Ellen White writings include guidance in understanding the teaching of Scripture and application of these teachings, with prophetic urgency, to the spiritual and moral life.
We believe that the acceptance of the prophetic gift of Ellen White is important to the nurture and unity of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
We believe that Ellen White's use of literary sources and assistants finds parallels in some of the writings of the Bible.
DENIALS
We do not believe that the quality or degree of inspiration in the writings of Ellen White is different from that of Scripture.
We do not believe that the writings of Ellen White are an addition to the canon of Sacred Scripture.
We do not believe that the writings of Ellen White function as the foundation and final authority of Christian faith as does Scripture.
We do not believe that the writings of Ellen White may be used as the basis of doctrine.
We do not believe that the study of the writings of Ellen White may be used to replace the study of Scripture.
We do not believe that Scripture can be understood only through the writings of Ellen White.
We do not believe that the writings of Ellen White exhaust the meaning of Scripture.
We do not believe that the writings of Ellen White are essential for the proclamation of the truths of Scripture to society at large.
We do not believe that the writings of Ellen White are the product of mere Christian piety.
We do not believe that Ellen White's use of literary sources and assistants negates the inspiration of her writings.
We conclude, therefore, that a correct understanding of the inspiration and authority of the writings of Ellen White will avoid two extremes: (1) regarding these writings as functioning on a canonical level identical with Scripture, or (2) considering them as ordinary Christian literature.
@@Nirky why did you deny falsed claim of Ellen G. White. SDA keep covering and denial false claim of SDA prophet. So many former SDA Pastor uploaded there video here to exposed Ellen G. White.
@@nardwilgatal1247 "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us." 1 John 2:19
Hundreds of thousands of Christians leave their churches every year, including many moving TO the Adventist Church, but nobody makes a fuss about leaving quite like an ex-Adventist, right? I find that interesting.
There are many ex-Adventist websites & videos which claim to "expose" errors of both the Church & Ellen White, yes?
What I would request of you is to think of her biggest, most damaging anti-Bible error, and then quote right here in this thread what she says about it from her writings. Please do not tell in your words what she says, QUOTE IT from her writings, along with its SOURCE, so it can be easily looked up, and we can discuss it openly right here. Does that sound good?
You lied Jim Jones separated alraedy from Methodists and form his own organization.