1990 - 'Jet Jockeys' | Inside British Airways (Boeing 747-200 flight)
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BBC documentary about a British Airways Boeing 747-200 in 1990.
Flight 'Speedbird 9' London - Bangkok - Sydney.
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The 747 always looks like it just LEAPS into the air. Just beautiful.
So graceful! ✈️❤️
I always thought they look like a giant goose. Really cool looking at.
First plane i ever flew on. Was hooked and still am. No other plane comes close to that beast
Only in 747-8 variant.
I worked in Dubai International Airport and was dedicated Ground Dispatcher for BA,
I found the cockpit crew very polite and professional.
👍👍👍
Such a majestic plane! She will always be Queen of the Skies.
emdengermany Indeed!
emdengermany I agree. Love the Queen with all my heart
Queen of the desert now
@British Airways Boeing 747-436 😑
The 747 runs deep in my family.
1. My late aunt was on the 747’s original design team.
2. My mother’s best friend died in the Tenerife accident. She was a flight attendant for Pan Am.
3. I myself am now a Boeing 747 captain (the -400 and -8; I’ve never flown the Classic).
Flying is in your blood, your kids will be pilots too :)
Must been an amazing experience on a jumbo queen, I sorry your mother's best friend was killed in Tenerife :(
Sadly, generations that follow you won’t have the joy of flying the 747...
back when BA was the worlds favourite airline... times have changed... Nice seeing old footage like this! :-)
Sad to see it decline - I blame it on W Walsh.
I watched this movie when I was 13 now I'm 41! My god thank you for putting it back :))))
likewise, it was one of the few, if only detailed aviation documentaries at the time. Me and a friend would endlessly discuss it at school. Look at what we have now on RUclips!
Snap, same thing and i was a kid 12 years old. TV shows about the airline industry were far and few between then and being a fanatic I had to insist I watched this series causing some trouble with rest of people at home sharing the TV! I even recorded the 4 programmes. There was another series around the time called Airport 90 based at Gatwick over a summer weekend in 1990. I think it was hosted by Fern Britton lol
@@peterfinn6098 Now you mention it, I think I remember that. It was filmed live and broadcast the ATC of an evening flight departing to Paris, the pilot said "It's a lovely evening for flying" and then took off into the setting sun!
same here! I was 11. 90's good days
Yeah the Airport 90 was live over a weekend. I had to beg to claim the TV back then. They followed Dan Air quite a bit in the programme and its on RUclips somewhere. I remember that clip of the DA flight to Paris too.
The golden years of aviation. No social media, good salary, when people actually respected pilots and low cost didn't exist
The Golden years had no female pilots or male stewardesses
@@philmontejano5971 Oh well
Phil Montejano yes they did
LCC did exist back then, but they were more like proto-LCC.
“Respected Pilots” except those who don’t, like Aussie air traffic controllers 🙄
woooow a time long time ago, the captain walks through the cabin, talks to the passengers, explains technic and the route... woooow !
He did that on my flight last year
Sit up front and have a chat with the captain.
The 747 and Concorde are the two most incredible engineering marvels
And now because of NASA's PC bullshit hiring and trophy for tenth place mentality we can't even get into space without hitchhiking with the Russians LOFL.
Wrong. the Concorde had more than a few problems and cost way too much to opererate,
@@CaptainArt777 what were the few problems?? The France crash wasn't the concordes fault as we all know...how long can a aircraft be in service till it hasn't got a choice to retire??? Just curious😷♌😉
It was sad to see that clip here in 2021 knowing both the 747 and Concorde are long gone from BA's fleet.
Sadly 2020 marked the end of air travel for the masses, 2008 marked the end of easy money, and 2001 marked the end of life as we knew it.
While I'm sure life would have been easier for many my age had we lived a generation earlier, I feel for the younger ones today who never ever got to see what this place was like before everyone was a disease carrying terrorist waiting to be 15 different genders and 30 ism's.
Yeah we didn't have the latest autopilot, but everything else was better.
@@CaptainArt777 A few flaws don’t detract from the fact Concorde was an engineering marvel. The Sptfire had many flaws in it’s design yet nobody questions the fact that they were beautiful pieces of engineering
In 1990 I was a flight attendant for 8 years and it was a very relaxed era in aviation.
From 1991 on, (first war at the Golf) turmoil started in the entire industry.
And relaxation finally ended in 2001.
I was very happy to retire in 2015 after 33 years of flying around the world without any serious incident.
B.T.W.: do you know what FE means? No, not Flight Engineer, but Frequent Eater.....lol.
And the era when Captains spend their layovers in a luxury hotel suite are definitely over.
1990 you became a FA, 2015 you retired, yet "8 years" of in-flight service?? 🤔
@@johnleebass I became a FA in 1982 at the age of 22 and was eligible for early retirement in 2015 due to my contract's early retirement scheme.
BA were definitely the best of a bad bunch in the 90's.....and then EZJ came along and have evolved into a decent airline and the rest is history. I have never ( and never will ) fly Ryanscare though. Funny to see those old FA uniforms that looked like they were made out of old deckchairs.
John Lee Bass clearly you can’t read. She said after 33 years
@@liamb8644 sorry, 'he' said.......
Wonderful video. My late father retired as a 747 Captain in 1989. He first earned his wings when he was 16 in Air Cadets, and after high school joined the RCAF for 3 years, initially was studying aerospace engineering, but missed flying too much, so joined the airline at the encouragement of my mum (great decision). He experienced a wonderful career.
The Boeing 747-200 in British Airways Landor livery is just so beautiful and elegant machine!
The best livery - when BA had class!
There are few more stately sights than watching British gentlemen command a jumbo jet. Bravo. Sincerely, America.
Nicely said sir!
Rare scene of a captain strolling through economy. When I used to fly economy I never saw a captain but in business every flight you see and speak to the captain.
I remember seeing lynn barton the first officer in a video last year she’s now a 744 captain
"Oi can i have me cornflakes please. It's more important than the bloody flight" LOL
CaptainAwesome The captain really needs his cornflakes-fix lol
The British Airways Landor livery and the 747-200. Two old classics!
The way the captain turns around when he hears the word tea at at 1:05. Also didn’t realise BA also trained their crew to be a drag act back in the day. 😂😂
The BA Landor livery was the best.. It certainly looked amazing on Concorde.
Steve Bennet Negus is best livery not Landor.
Steve have a look at my video of Landor - her last landing and me walking around her. majestic to the last. She landed like a swan. Had me welling up. ruclips.net/video/jCrL4dHot54/видео.html ✈️❤️
Even as recent as 1990, British people's accents have changed. These people sound very clipped compared to today.
Andy D cultural Marxism is in full swing
Basically dumbed down.
@@airindiana Yes, be proud of your comprehensive education.
Don't you be such a bitch. FOAD.
@@ronzomac6246 I can't help it if I speak properly. Sorry.
04.13 who else saw concord.
i love air travel and would have loved to work at an airport
Same here and I was very lucky to have worked at an airport in the mid 80's catering the airlines. Good times! ✈❤
Even though this is from 1990. This is my best program about BA
The time when BA had an excellent service.
Indeed from the days when a BA aircraft was a welcome site when you were traveling. Now? I'll go Emirates thanks.
And when plane tickets were a lot more expensive... How old are you, 16?
They had, indeed.
Service levels have dropped along with ticket prices. Certain airlines provide a scripted service which may seem like quality to the untrained eye or indifferent customer. This service is provided by underpaid staff working under conditions that no one in the west would find acceptable (e.g. women getting fired for pregnancy).
To provide a genuine service, you need staff who are happy in their jobs.
@@vondahe service levels dropping is indicative of what? I feel its a combination of attitudes changing towards customers, but fundamentally its being "content" in a place of work. Can you expand on your point.
This is the best pilot documentary/ airline documentary of all time, so honest and real.
The old gentleman’s pure british accent 👌🏻
Nice voice!
Flew this route as a 9-year-old in 1991 (on a very new 747-400). This brings back many memories of that amazing journey.
It suggests that the flight continued to Melbourne, but it doesn't show it. Do you know it continued to Melbourne?
@@roymackenzie-jy4lr Unfortunately I do not remember - I was only 8 at the time!
@@timcollins5261 that's fine
Wow. Amazing to think how different Flight 9 itself was a quarter of a century ago using those 747 classics. Now it terminates at Bangkok with a 777-200ER.
Such a fascinating insight into a profession often taken for granted. Thanks for the upload.
‘Flying an airliner is hours and hours of boredom punctuated by moments of stark terror’
Lynn Barton became Captain Lynn Barton in 1996 and and got married the same year. -- Nice one Lynn
Aaaaaaarrgh..I'll avoid flying BA
She was also the first captain to fly into Terminal 5 at Heathrow
Paul Steele who cares?
@@cloverdalewhite That must have caused carnage.
@@Stephen-Steven-Stephens what did you want them to do? Stay in Terminal 1 as it was demolished, you spanner?
When you really felt well looked after by British Airways.
Absolutely brilliant and very professional Captain and the FO and Flt. Engineer. A job performed very well. Happy sailing with many more perfect touchdown. Thank you for this beautiful video.
Beautiful early ‘90s type documentary. The good old days with BA’s classic Landor livery. Thanks for the upload.
Remember watching this as a 13 year old on the BBC. As you heard runway 05 was still around at LHR. 747 in the Landor was stunning. Loved plane spotting at T4 with so many 747-100/200/400 parked up in unison. Cool Speedbird 9 is still the same service today. That Aussie controller is well bitter about pilots. Have a feeling he wanted to be one 😂
Yeah I remember the series too, i was 12 and a plane geek back then, i loved this series. Always wanted to fly long haul on a jumbo but now I find it boring and the service drab. I wish I had been able to try it out back in 1990 and the service then
Thank you for finding and uploading this. A time where there was much more accessibility.
BA 009. I've been on this flight so many times. Love it thanks for the upload!!
Ah yes, BA's Landor Livery. Gorgeous and fitting, best one they ever had. Should have kept it.
Speedbird 9 was the flight that lost all it's engine power after flying into ash near Jakarta.
Yeh ... that was the same flight but 8 years earlier. Have to wonder if the crew ever get a bit nervous about that happening again...
Gabriel Cox it was the exact same plane? When they had the odd lights flying by the plane? I remember watching a flight disaster documentary about that flight. Do all planes keep their call sign / nickname for the entire life of the airplane? So "SpeedBird 9" is a perm isn't designation for this specific airplane for its lifetime?
Callsign "speedbird 9" is simply the flight number. Airplanes have their own registration number however airliners file their flight plans with a specific Flight number.
FreshlySnipes The 747 in this video is named 'City of Oxford' whereas the 747 in question was 'City of Edinburgh'
BA Flight 9. Dickhead.
Everyone is relaxed and cool. Way before 911.
HALON747 I know. These were the days when they used to take you to visit the cockpit. I went in the 747 and the Lockheed tri star twice. Got the flight rider certificates too, BA totally ruled in those days
Yep, as a kid I regularly flew on Tri-Star, and visited the cockpit during flight many times (late 80's/early 90's), you only had to ask in those days.
HALON747 When I was 6 years old the Pilots of a MD80 invited me to have a short look in the cockpit. Unfortunately, I was too shy then. That was a few days before 9/11. :/
mezsh where did you fly on the tri star? Did you stop in Middle East by any chance. I remember landing Abu Dhabi and there was nothing. Just sand and then a runway out of no where
Sam Pochin
Hi Sam, yes, it was between Heathrow and Doha, Qatar (Gulf Air), I think the flight carried on to Abu Dhabi and then finally to Muscat, but I always disembarked in Doha. Yep, I too remember flying over nothing but endless desert for the last couple of hours. I lost count of how many times I went onto the flight deck during flight though, it was totally normal in those days, smoking onboard was too.
"In the new machine age, those who work with machines are likely to be replaced by them" quoted here in 1990. I do believe that is prophetic. Any IT, software developers, or Network Engineers reading this will really understand that.
The 47 was and is a magnificent sight. Ordinary folks could see the world for the first time thanks to this bird.
Great ride thanks Captain & Crew !!
Awesome video, I always use to fly, Lufthansa, or Swiss to Prague from Chicago with layovers in either Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, or Zurich. I remember it was always a 747 and my parents would send us to Grandma's for the summer and the fly attends would sometimes take me to the cockpit.
As of January 2022 ex British Airways G-BDXN and G-BDXM are still flying for Geo-Sky. They are one of the last Boeing 747-200 in civil aviation to fly.
First time I watched this was over 30yrs ago...I was about 9...amazing to find this on RUclips 😄
A very interesting and informative video. Than you very much for proving it !
excellent docie so interesting to hear the discussion around automation and the perspective of ATCs, female pilots
This is so awesome - also around the time I took my first ever flight, a BA 747 LHR SFO - and what a first flight that was. I still love to travel, and have a review channel right on here, but there was something more exciting about it back then. Of course the airport experience felt nicer and the culture shock of a far away culture was way more intense and exciting. Great watch, thanks for posting!
That nerdy captain was waiting for that hot flight attendant to be impressed
Awesome video! It does a nice job of summarizing an intercontinental route yet also analyses the industry as a whole. I just checked now and LHR-BKK is still BAW9! I love British documentaries; they don't do them as well here in America. Thanks for sharing.
The pilots misunderstood the Thai air traffic controller's pronunciation when he directed them to the parking gate.
...Nice video. That plane is huge!
Correct... then they tried to cover their mistake by blaming the Ground Controller for wrong taxi instructions. Can't have BA pilots seen making their own mistakes. Good thing that aircraft had the best Autopilot.
Flying a airliner, is hours and hours of boredom, punctuated by moments of stark terror. 8:05 LOL
Luca C I can vouch for that.
Wonderful video thank you for sharing, we miss you, Queen of the Skies ❤️✈️
23:37 "And if at any time we get a fire warning, just reset the master warning" sounds legit. 🤣
Pretty standard. If its a false alarm, then it remains silent. If there is a real fire, it will pop again.
@@xxxxxxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx no, you silence the warning because it’s served it’s purpose. You now know and it’s just a distraction now.
I was actually on this flight to Thailand ! How crazy
And me and me.
How was it Jason? Tell us more!
On the exact one they were filming?
Bullshit.
@@Rambo9700 Your just jelly as in smelly
I miss 747-100/200's I love the old analog gauge cockpits its what I always saw as a kid when theyd let me come in and see everything (back then it was common, sadly kids these days dont get to).
The Queen of The Skies takes off again...
So sad to know that they aren't flying anymore, long live the Queen of The Skies.....
This captain has a pleasant accent and voice as well!
Nice piano by Richard Clayderman. A real legend of piano, part of their soundtrack of this programme.
I was a flight attendant till the end of 2001. I have seen my captains and first officers taking naps in cockpit during the flight.
Both at the same time?
Did you use the blow them off down route?
The classic beauty of the sky's
You gotta admit, the -200 and -100 series had the best lines. The original upper deck proportions. I am already missing this aircraft in North America. No US passenger carriers use her.
Dang I hate growing up!
Indeed the short upper deck make the 747 look amazing. Which is why I like the freighter version of the 747-400 & 747-8, but the pax version not so much.
I love this old 90s design growing up. Used to draw it alot. Its got a very impressionable imprint on me. XD
Great video!
Cool vid.. my mate flew these for Qantas.. thanks from NZ 👍🇳🇿
tempos Maravilhosos ! tempos dos Veteranos jatos 747-100 : 747-200 e 747-300 , DC-10 , Tristar : 727 DC-8 707 E 737 200 300 E 400.
TEMPOS QUE NÃO PODEM SEREM ESQUECIDOS JA MAIS.
PARABÉNS PELO VÍDEO.
I worked in London as a 22 year old Advertising exec in 1990. Had I seen this documentary at the time, things could have been very different with my career. Oh well!
Flew on the 747 and 747/400 series in the mid to late 80s to San Francisco and Perth Australia, fabulous planes and I was lucky enough to be invited onto the flight deck on the Singapore to Perth leg so glad I did as it’s impossible now.
I love this classic documentaries very realistic
The accusations of the Varig pilots are false, they tuned the radios to local radio to check where they were, because they had gotten lost. Watch the air crash investigation episode on it.
This was made 1 year after it, when the investigation hadn't been finished
15:27 "oi can i get corn flakes it's very important on a bloody flight c'mon"
Wow - what a cool find - amazing to think this was 30 years ago and how new some of this was....no most of it is old hat....one thing that is not here is TCAS...which is another great leap in safety since it rolled out to avation........
It's crazy to think that the airport they landed in, at that time, would've been Bangkok (Don Mueang) which is next door to where I live in Lak Si. All flights since 2007 from outside Asia land at Bangkok (Suvarnabhumi) and all flights that depart over my apartment are only LoCo like Thai AirAsia, Nok Air, Air Asia X and Thai Lion.
Fascinating documentary, liked the bit about the cornflakes. 😂 And the part where they misheard 32 as 22 and went to the wrong gate lol.
If there is beautiful plane it has to be 747
So interesting to see the old take on automation back in the 90's, where the level was new and advanced enough it had them all questioning what's next? We now know SO much more about human factors, and are probably far further away from a flight-crew-less aircraft than they ever thought we would be by now in the 90's.
Long story short, the level of autmation has not increased a whole lot at all from those days, the A320 is still a high benchmark for this, and the pilots still find themselves an indespensible part of the flight, can you imagine sully's landing in the hudson without flight crew? Not with todays tech, not just yet at any rate.
Another interesting note is the flight crews for the pilot-less jet nasa were testing. That is an area that has advanced a whole lot, and the psycological effects of drone pilots killing people remotely in the US military has opened a whole new can of worms, even on a philosophical level!
the automation issue came to ahead during AF447
the pilots in that case ended up trying to hand fly a plane over the ocean in pitch black - they failed big time
Wonderful.
Brilliant Video Thanks For Sharing Iv Subbed And Liked Big Thanks
I probably flew on that aircraft used to fly BA all the time, I flew on one of the last smoking flights from Heathrow to Philly , that 747 on that flight was built in 1972 - thought flight crew had to be on O2 when alone in cockpit.. in case of depressurization
Patrick Pendergast became an ATC because he failed pilot school. Boy is he a bit butt hurt! He doesn't realize that pilots get paid alot because of the responsibility that they have, the schooling they had to go through, the time away from home and missing family events etc! I wonder how long he lasted with that attitude! Great video of my favorite plane ever! Thank you! ❤
@Jess W I refuse to have a discussion with a uneducated, self opinionated person.
@Jess W Patrick is a typical butt hurt ATC, because he never leaves his seat 🤣🤣🤣
When I began taking flying lessons, and my instructor said “Full Throttle”; I had to adjust my thinking from driving a car. Let’s say you get a green light so you decide to go Full Throttle and smash the gas to the floor board, only bad things happen. You might blow your engine, go much faster that what the road was designed for as well you’re going to get speeding tickets. Initially I went 3/4 and my instructor reached over and pushed it completely in. After that I had no issues. When the Capt told the second officer Full Throttle I couldn’t help by remember my experience transitioning from auto to aircraft
I have to go full throttle in my SUV at some stop lights and freeways. However, My C8 Corvette is a different story.
The first officer starting salary is £52k in today's money
Rubbish money when you compare it to say train driver ,
Incorrect, by quite a margin
@@emilaero £53,500 starting wage of train driver with the company I work for 😮🤔
@@Sam-bz1hr Year 1 salary at BA is £63k not including duty pay etc. Average earnings in excess of £80k....
So funny how times have changed! We are now in a world where joking around like 30:30 would result in the people fired, the company forced to offer sexual sensitivity training, and the company paying millions in lawsuits to the women who’ll never work again because they were so traumatized by that skit....
I miss the 747, shame they had to retire the fleet. Only time I flew on one was in 2006 with Virgin Atlantic from Manchester to Orlando.
I have 2 daughters and very proud of them. They can do anything a man can do and usually better. I am the very proud dad 😁
Do you have the rest of the series? Your copy's the best quality of all the ones uploaded on RUclips.
It's from Horizon?
My goodness, the BPK 2F SID existed back then already? Its a sid that is still in use... damn thats crazy. I know so many airports where sids from the 90s dont even exist anymore
I flew as crew on this aircraft. Happy Memories
A FMC and an INS, you can't get any better than that with modernization at the time.
Yep... No GPS back then.
04.15
iconic moment with concord in the frame
I feel real sad for the flight engineers who disappeared after the huge autopilot upgrade and upgraded flight systems. But still the 744 remains my queen. Wish i could fly it again like i used to in malaysia airlines. Ahhh the good oll days.
Richard i’m interested. Can you tell me more of you don’t mind. KLIA airport was my fav airport and I’ve grown up with it. Now it seems so dead. Back in the days it was thriving with MAS aircraft. Now just some few a330s and a350s with 737 for short haul. What do you mean with challenging? I’dd love to hear.
2023: the age of the jet jockey is not over. same pilot shortage as 1990 too.
"Oi can I have a my cornflakes? Well it's more important than the bloody flight comon"
the 200s,pre 300s have a beautiful aura in this design.....
Christian Castellano What you mean by aura?
Try: Airline 1990 Inside British Airways 2 , in-the search engine there is a 3 and a 4 too to watch the others in that series
38:30 Quite disturbing hearing a controller speak like that, grudges against pilots have no place on that type of working enviroment. You work ATC because you love what you do, maybe Salaries were'nt that good back in the 90s but atc is not a work you do for the money.
He was a miserable bastard wasn't he? Probably applied to Qantas and was rejected.
Under worked are they? Last time I checked, it wasn’t a legal requirement for pilots to have a break after working for just 90 minutes, but it is the case for controllers.
I flew BA9 LHR-BKK-SYD Jan 1998. Very turbulent over Bay of Bengal.
Love from Thailand. I suppose to say Thailand is the most famous destination in the orient
25:17 Hahaha it's as if she's asking him "would you like me to send a girl up for happy ending?"
"No thanks, I'm so tired."
LOL
Flew on "XG" 'City of Oxford' from St. Lucia via Barbados to LGW in April 1994.