How does this van do in an NCAP crash test? The structure and chassis of this van are extremely basic on the undersides. This looks more golf cart in construction rather than commercial grade truck. How robust in construction is that battery pack? I saw nothing which indicated it was armored against road debris and projectile damage. This design and build appears to be intended for low to medium speed city car use. Not motorway speeds and use. Not really suitable for any speeds above about 50 kph at best. (35 to 40 mph) The ratings for the motor are really pretty limited. It’s not really 90 kw, (120 hp) but more realistically around 40 kw (53 hp) with 90 kw available for short term burst capability. The motor is rated for 10300 rpm. If it’s producing it’s rated 53 hp, that’s only about 27 pounds of torque. So this is set up for low end dig and the power falls off fast as RPM and speed climbs. That’s not really all that much power. The van probably is quite peppy at low speed and initial start off, but acceleration and responsiveness probably falls off quite rapidly as speed builds based on the motor specs.
All those different types of materials could cause issues with galvanic action, especially aluminium/steel interfaces... Seems a reasonable build quality, but not the best. The five year warranty may be tested by our winters...
I would expect there to be gaskets between the different metals. I've also learned today that the floor on these is stainless steel, whereas I thought it looked like aluminium. I will have to check.
you could always have something fitted, i run all my power tools from solar on my diesel van at the moment, i will probably do the same when i convert to electric.
that underseal looks like a right bodge.I predict rust of Ford proportions. E-NV body seems to be galvanized or similar , where mine has a massive dent , and the paint has all gone.. no rust
You mentioned in an earlier video about those standard tyres being noisy, assume that is why they got named “Harmonic” … 🤔 I do have a question (thinking in camper mode) if you are sat in the rear , can you lock the vehicle with the remote..? Please
That's exactly what I thought. Especially since in the companion video to this when comparing this van with the Nissan N200e there was a very valid point made that Nissan Leaf and N200e have battery segregation of 3% pa because of the lack of battery cooling whereas othe EVs (including the SIAC built MG ZS EV) typically have 1% degradation. The N200e has a primative fan blown air cooled system which Leaf doesn't an now we see that SIAC Van has only passive ventilation to cool it so no wonder there's so much space around it
No. Too many variables. You need to get the error codes diagnosed. I think there is a recall on this for an AC charging fault. Possibly read it was a wiring loom? You should contact a Maxus dealer.
Do you mean twin side sliding doors? All come with just one. No option to have a door on both sides and in reality too difficult to fit. Cheaper and easier to buy a van that comes from the factory with both.
Cheers for the video. Im getting a 2 day demo of the short wheelbase van with the big battery next week. It was interesting to see a bit more about the construction. Do you think from what you have seen it would be worth spraying the chassis or is it already adequately treated for salty roads? I ask because if I forked out the extra cash to go electric I would prefer to keep the van for longer than I normally would. This would especially be the case as I expect resale value on the current generation of vans won't be great as the technology makes them redundant quite quickly. The simple construction of it makes me think it could be reasonably easy to upgrade the battery down the line as well. I wonder if in a few years there will be a good aftermarket industry for that sort of thing. The van could last for many years then. Cheers Paul
Did you buy one Paul and what do you think? I’ve got a LWB, 130 bhp auto Berlingo on order, and I’m expecting a build date pretty soon. I’m very tempted to cancel that order and get one of these Maxus e3’s for a couple of grand extra, especially as I only do around 50 miles a day.
@@frazerguest2864 Hey Frazer Yes I bought the shorter one with the big battery. So far Im pretty pleased. The van itself is basic but comfortable. More importantly i have so far found the range to be decent enough. Now in the summer mixed driving im getting pretty consistently 260km from a charge. In the early spring (im in the middle of Sweden so -8 to plus 5c) I was reliably getting 200km with the heater on economy and with studded winter tyres. In both cases I was carrying about 300kg of equipment. With a trailer on with a total weight of about 500kg my range seems to drop between 30 and 40km regardless of the temperature. The real test for me will be in the deep winter when we get several days in a row below -10. I think I will have charge for 15 minutes on a fast charger during the day then. Even though the upfront cost is quite high because you can only get them new the van is saving me a fortune. My monthly costs have reduced significantly. I hope this is helpful. Regards Paul
Worth mention, the "climate control" got no temperature adjustment. You have AC/Heat on/off and adjust to the desired temperature with opening/closing widows.
Yes, there's only one power source. When the vehicle is running the DC-DC converter charges the 12V battery. So its doing the same job as the alternator in an ICE vehicle.
@@GoGreenAutosI do not really understand. The other way round. What happens if I consume the whole power of the 12 V battery by a diesel heating. When does it get reloaded?
@@decker6875 The 12V battery gets charged (from the HV battery) when the vehicle is on and in ready mode (i.e. running). However, if you completely flatten your 12V battery, you will not be able to turn on or start the vehicle. A video about that and how to recovery from that situation is coming on the channel soon, so subscribe to catch it.
There's a towing eye screw in the front and yes, no spare tyre. Pretty typical for modern vehicles. You get a puncture repair kit instead (pump & gunk).
Are you sure there are disc brakes on the back? I thought it looked like a drum housing. Great video though, not many RUclipsrs would show the inside/underneath like I was interested in.
@@GoGreenAutos good to know, I was hoping they were discs. It’s a lovely (not so) little van, perfect size for me I think. Love the fact it’s one trim level only and most stuff is standard, however I’ve been looking at buying a new 52.5kWh in Silver but seems 95% of stock is White. I’m wondering if in the future the colour options will expand?
I liked the video very much. Good presentation. About the van, looks like very simple and cheap to do maintenance, the question remains just about are we capable of buy parts because is not a normal PSA, VAG or Mercedes brand.
Its no different. You can buy parts from SAIC Maxus. See saicmaxus.co.uk/ for the UK dealer network. SAIC are also MG. Their prices are very reasonable. I did a video on this, see ruclips.net/video/qKgb5NXr7ow/видео.html
Id like to turn the larger model into a camper, put a heap of solar on the roof & see if its possible to charge batteries that way ... as out here in Australia it is few & far between charges
Just been watching another RUclipsr trying one of these vans, he gives a good review other than charging appears to be very slow and erratic on speed rates, have you found this at all….?
The rubber bumpstops that you mention seem to be rather... "rust" coloured, is that rust, or maybe some kind of different coloured underseal. I only ask as this is what looks like a brand new, undriven stock van. (around 15:09, and again at 20:55)
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How does this van do in an NCAP crash test?
The structure and chassis of this van are extremely basic on the undersides. This looks more golf cart in construction rather than commercial grade truck. How robust in construction is that battery pack? I saw nothing which indicated it was armored against road debris and projectile damage.
This design and build appears to be intended for low to medium speed city car use. Not motorway speeds and use. Not really suitable for any speeds above about 50 kph at best. (35 to 40 mph)
The ratings for the motor are really pretty limited. It’s not really 90 kw, (120 hp) but more realistically around 40 kw (53 hp) with 90 kw available for short term burst capability.
The motor is rated for 10300 rpm. If it’s producing it’s rated 53 hp, that’s only about 27 pounds of torque. So this is set up for low end dig and the power falls off fast as RPM and speed climbs.
That’s not really all that much power.
The van probably is quite peppy at low speed and initial start off, but acceleration and responsiveness probably falls off quite rapidly as speed builds based on the motor specs.
All those different types of materials could cause issues with galvanic action, especially aluminium/steel interfaces...
Seems a reasonable build quality, but not the best. The five year warranty may be tested by our winters...
I would expect there to be gaskets between the different metals. I've also learned today that the floor on these is stainless steel, whereas I thought it looked like aluminium. I will have to check.
@@GoGreenAutos
Stainless steel would make sense for wear and tear, but not for weight.
I’m surprised that they didn’t use a Build Your Dreams battery!! That’s what MG use these days!!
I wonder how well it would last rust wise up here in Scotland with 3500mm of rain a year. Do you prefer the maxis to the env200?
Yes I do prefer the eD3 over the ENV200. I made a video comparing them, see ruclips.net/video/NGE5TLRXEyc/видео.html
Until a long distance evehicle comes along, i have no interest. 100 odd mile limit is no good to me.
The way it is built it should bo be as expensive as it is !!! Its a rip-off.
It would be cool if these vans could have a main socket outlet to charge up stuff, like battery powered tools.
Otherwise the van looks perfect
Yes... also battery temp management as well.
V2G would be even better!
Yeah like the eTransit
I add 5000W V2L inverter in Maxus EV30（eDeliver 3） for van leisure and Van working. support AC 5000W output even charging or driving time.
you could always have something fitted, i run all my power tools from solar on my diesel van at the moment, i will probably do the same when i convert to electric.
that underseal looks like a right bodge.I predict rust of Ford proportions. E-NV body seems to be galvanized or similar , where mine has a massive dent , and the paint has all gone.. no rust
You mentioned in an earlier video about those standard tyres being noisy, assume that is why they got named “Harmonic” … 🤔
I do have a question (thinking in camper mode) if you are sat in the rear , can you lock the vehicle with the remote..? Please
My old diesel NV200 was great and this could be a perfect replacement...except I can not get SIAC-LDV to reply to ant contact.
Totally open battery comunications connectors under the van ,very weird...
Yup, not designed for salty roads!
great video thanks . i want one
Very informative video. Really like the undercarriage video.
Sounds nice but I really need two or three seats in the rear plus no freight wall cheers
Very surprised there is no battery cooling
That's exactly what I thought. Especially since in the companion video to this when comparing this van with the Nissan N200e there was a very valid point made that Nissan Leaf and N200e have battery segregation of 3% pa because of the lack of battery cooling whereas othe EVs (including the SIAC built MG ZS EV) typically have 1% degradation. The N200e has a primative fan blown air cooled system which Leaf doesn't an now we see that SIAC Van has only passive ventilation to cool it so no wonder there's so much space around it
Do you know why this van would stop charging.
Discharged battery all the way down yo 337v.
No. Too many variables. You need to get the error codes diagnosed.
I think there is a recall on this for an AC charging fault. Possibly read it was a wiring loom? You should contact a Maxus dealer.
i would like a ediliver3 with twin rear doors
how much is it to put or do you have one with twin side doors ?
Do you mean twin side sliding doors? All come with just one. No option to have a door on both sides and in reality too difficult to fit. Cheaper and easier to buy a van that comes from the factory with both.
Really nice and good video cheers well done
Cheers for the video. Im getting a 2 day demo of the short wheelbase van with the big battery next week.
It was interesting to see a bit more about the construction.
Do you think from what you have seen it would be worth spraying the chassis or is it already adequately treated for salty roads?
I ask because if I forked out the extra cash to go electric I would prefer to keep the van for longer than I normally would. This would especially be the case as I expect resale value on the current generation of vans won't be great as the technology makes them redundant quite quickly.
The simple construction of it makes me think it could be reasonably easy to upgrade the battery down the line as well. I wonder if in a few years there will be a good aftermarket industry for that sort of thing. The van could last for many years then.
Cheers
Paul
Did you buy one Paul and what do you think?
I’ve got a LWB, 130 bhp auto Berlingo on order, and I’m expecting a build date pretty soon. I’m very tempted to cancel that order and get one of these Maxus e3’s for a couple of grand extra, especially as I only do around 50 miles a day.
@@frazerguest2864
Hey Frazer
Yes I bought the shorter one with the big battery.
So far Im pretty pleased. The van itself is basic but comfortable. More importantly i have so far found the range to be decent enough.
Now in the summer mixed driving im getting pretty consistently 260km from a charge. In the early spring (im in the middle of Sweden so -8 to plus 5c) I was reliably getting 200km with the heater on economy and with studded winter tyres.
In both cases I was carrying about 300kg of equipment.
With a trailer on with a total weight of about 500kg my range seems to drop between 30 and 40km regardless of the temperature.
The real test for me will be in the deep winter when we get several days in a row below -10. I think I will have charge for 15 minutes on a fast charger during the day then.
Even though the upfront cost is quite high because you can only get them new the van is saving me a fortune. My monthly costs have reduced significantly.
I hope this is helpful.
Regards
Paul
Looks cheap and nasty
Road salt and aluminium? or is it protected in some manner?
Aluminium doesn’t rust. It only oxidises slightly.
No cooling system for the battery???
Worth mention, the "climate control" got no temperature adjustment.
You have AC/Heat on/off and adjust to the desired temperature with opening/closing widows.
A new video on the eD3 heater coming on the channel soon.
Nice interesting video. I would like to know from where gets the 12v batterie its power? From the traction battery?
Yes, there's only one power source. When the vehicle is running the DC-DC converter charges the 12V battery. So its doing the same job as the alternator in an ICE vehicle.
@@GoGreenAutosI do not really understand. The other way round. What happens if I consume the whole power of the 12 V battery by a diesel heating. When does it get reloaded?
@@decker6875 The 12V battery gets charged (from the HV battery) when the vehicle is on and in ready mode (i.e. running). However, if you completely flatten your 12V battery, you will not be able to turn on or start the vehicle. A video about that and how to recovery from that situation is coming on the channel soon, so subscribe to catch it.
Van is driving surprisingly well.
A five year guarantee is quite good for a van!! But leasing would put an end to my ability to have it converted into a camper!!
very informative video, thanks. Your camera work induces motion sickness though.
there is no spare wheel or eye towing screw?
There's a towing eye screw in the front and yes, no spare tyre. Pretty typical for modern vehicles. You get a puncture repair kit instead (pump & gunk).
hello, please tell me how to check soh batteries on maxus. Maybe you know mobile app?..
Can you please include the internal loading sizes? Does it have a foot well under the passenger seat to load 3 M long pipes?
Are you sure there are disc brakes on the back? I thought it looked like a drum housing.
Great video though, not many RUclipsrs would show the inside/underneath like I was interested in.
Yes they have rear disc brakes. (without looking) the drum housing is probably the handbrake.
@@GoGreenAutos good to know, I was hoping they were discs.
It’s a lovely (not so) little van, perfect size for me I think.
Love the fact it’s one trim level only and most stuff is standard, however I’ve been looking at buying a new 52.5kWh in Silver but seems 95% of stock is White. I’m wondering if in the future the colour options will expand?
@@dataanalyst5704 I doubt they will add any more colours as the majority of van buyers want white.
@@GoGreenAutos silver it is then !
I would prefer it covered away from salt n smuthz. But it’s the way forward light for pay load. Simple
Thanks so much for up the hoist review!
Im learning so much between this and monroe live
I liked the video very much. Good presentation. About the van, looks like very simple and cheap to do maintenance, the question remains just about are we capable of buy parts because is not a normal PSA, VAG or Mercedes brand.
Its no different. You can buy parts from SAIC Maxus. See saicmaxus.co.uk/ for the UK dealer network. SAIC are also MG. Their prices are very reasonable. I did a video on this, see ruclips.net/video/qKgb5NXr7ow/видео.html
Id like to turn the larger model into a camper, put a heap of solar on the roof & see if its possible to charge batteries that way ... as out here in Australia it is few & far between charges
Yes, the eDeliver 9 would make a great camper. And these come (here in the UK anyway) with the largest traction batteries of any electric van.
Fascinating. Thanks!
It looks like a good van. It looks about the size of the Vauxhall Combo. Am I right or wrong?!!
Slightly larger
hello, please tell me how to check soh batteries on maxus
Looks really good. I'm considering buying one. But no spare wheel?????
Quite common across all vehicles - to save weight. You get a puncture repair kit instead.
Do you have the Euro NCAP safety rating for this Van?
They haven't tested it.
@@GoGreenAutos I've contacted Thatcham EURO NCAP to find out on the EDAS rating.
@@daniellenaerts5750 Any Luck? I couldn’t find any results myself.
i understand that vans are currently not required to meet the EURO NCAP safety ratings.
Just been watching another RUclipsr trying one of these vans, he gives a good review other than charging appears to be very slow and erratic on speed rates, have you found this at all….?
Personally, I've not yet needed to DC charge one as all our charging is done back at base.
I have noticed My maxus charges slower than other vehicles, I usually compare when others are charging at the same time. It's not a huge issue
Looks like rhd by design
What would economy be compared to say a Nissan env200 in miles/kWh?
The eD3 has no economy meter so difficult to say. But the 35kwh model does the same range as the 40kwh ENV200.
@@GoGreenAutos Thanks for the reply.
My Maxus e deliver 3 does 4 miles/ kwh. I usually drive in eco mode
The rubber bumpstops that you mention seem to be rather... "rust" coloured, is that rust, or maybe some kind of different coloured underseal.
I only ask as this is what looks like a brand new, undriven stock van.
(around 15:09, and again at 20:55)
Yes it's a new van. The rust colour is just sealant overspray on the rubber.
@@GoGreenAutos Thought as much :)
Thanks 🙏 great review 👍