I Bought a $1300 YFZ 450 And Instantly Regretted It
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- I buy a $1300 Yamaha YFZ450 Quad with a bad knock and attempt to fix it. #Yamaha, #Fix,
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when someone says...im not gonna lie...they're lying 90% of the time...
I got that vibe immediately 😅
Won what
@@mjohnson589 a scammer replying
@@mjohnson589 a agree handy j!!!lol
Bull crap.
I like how you took us through every step of the tear down, you really put on a shop class.
Everything is heavily edited in your videos. To the point which makes one wonder do you do all of it yourself. Quality is so much better than quantity. Musties videos are so informative, original and entertaining, yours not so much.
@@aidanleahy7208pretty cool thing about you tube, you can move on and watch something else. Feel free to do so.
I love that you show the interaction when you go and pick items up. Please keep doing that
its hard often they dont like camera's or something
Alot of tikes people dont want their property and belongings shown on youtube for everyone to see invites thieves sadly
@@Phillydrone215 I NEVER bring someone to my house when I’m selling something and I encourage people who are selling me something to meet me somewhere if at all possible. Sometime those buying from you could be the thieves you are talking about.
@@Day12My i meet at local police stations only
The case of Busch beer next to the wheeler says it all
yup,hillbilly for sure it says!!!lol.gross pee water at best!!!
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never gets old ' i dont really know much about them'
translates : cranks gone and trying to get as much back as we can on it as it costs a fortune to fix.
I’ve been watching for a few years and have learned a lot from you
Joe, I realize that you are an expert when it comes to 2 stroke and 4 stroke engines. I also realize that you know when a seller is lying to you. But you pick up machines that need work for your highly successful channel. I realize after watching your channel that nobody is pulling the wool over your eyes. You know exactly what is going on and when someone is not being truthful. Love your channel.
The bad thing about buying used sport quads is they have been ridden very had and usually not taken very good care of.
The crank bearing went because the oil squirter mod was done but you NEED the 2007+ Higher Output Oil Pump to make up for the new oil flow ... The newer oil pump is part # 5D3-13300-00 and has the stamp E-1 - yours still has the 2005 oil pump which is stamped E-2 ... also I would get an OEM cam chain tensioner and throw that manual one in the trash as that's why the cam chain was loose and skipped time ...
This guy quads.
What he said lol
Here's a good idea. If you see a lot of metal flakes in the oil (this was a ton), do NOT keep spinning the motor over creating more damage. I really thought that was common sense 😂
I'm no MC tech but I was thinking the same ... drain the oil then spin her over again and again lol
You’ll see this many times with this channel op. He often times does not think and is also impatient. He should of not done anything with this engine other than remove it from the frame and complete tear down IMO. I’d of also not given more than a grand for it.
Pretty sure Joe knew the motor was screwed up to that point, once it's done, then does it really matter if he keeps turning it over with no oil, not going to get any more screwed really, apart from maybe wiping the cam lobes
Spoken from people that probably have no experience in engine repair. Once it's damaged. The parts need to be replaced anyway. Wtf does it matter if he spins the engine over more? What it will damage the damaged parts more ? Wow
Dude needed a new subframe anyways. So why not take the motor out and rebuild it the RIGHT way
hey what i love about your videos is theres no crazy editing or jump cuts to the finished product but you take us through every step. this has taught me alot!! thank you!
It hurts watching you turn it over on the starter so much, with no oil in it 😅
Me too 😩
Was thinking the same
@ClickOnProfile60 you lost
@ClickOnProfile60you lose! India will be decimated by the superior Pakistan! All Indian women will be spared though 😎
I know it's killing me to man
I rebuild these quite a bit. You can drop a valve with the 2 piece valves.
The crank will seize because poor oil lube design. You need to rebuild it. Split the cases and do the oil mod.
If you run Rotella T3 15W-40 for oil they are fine without the oil squirter mod.
Diesel oil is a detergent oil so it contains zinc and molybdenum.
You can thank the EPA and CAFE for taking the lubricity out of oil...
Rotella is wet clutch rated too!
@@NIHlLlST yup!! That’s exactly what I use.
Glad to see you doing the repairs on it. I can't wait to see how good it turns out.
Timing was off but that was on purpose. 1 tooth advance on the exhaust is a common mod. Essentially giving the bike the same timing as the motocross bike (whose engine is the same except for this) - improves performance.
I just bought a non runner motorcycle that I was able to get running. It's the first time I've done that. Partly inspired by channels like yours. I figured I could enjoy the bike for a little bit then sell it and make a little money. Mostly I just wanted to see if I could diagnose the problem and get it running. Obviously I couldn't hear it run, so I was hoping it was nothing catastrophic. Turns out it just needed a good carb clean/rebuild.
With the ethanol gas and sitting for a while we're all going to be educated on carb rebuild and hose replacement.
Always love those "I haven't looked at it" and then open up the engine and it's obvious, someone was in there and didn't know what they were doing.
Combined with "My friend's dad is a mechanic" - if we had as many as there are claimed, wouldn't be short so many in the shops.
I like how the Master , plays dumb when he`s buying . But is the ace mechanic that he is.
Tough luck on this 1 Joe but i dont doubt u will have it reassembled soon and tearing around ur field ,in total awe of how u go about ur work well done from Ireland
So many people comment saying what he should and shouldn't do what's the name of your channels so we can see how it's done correctly. 🤦🏽♂️ Keep doing you don't change a thing Joe.
Bad cam chain was the first culprit in my opinion, caused everything else. Revised, both the main rod bearing and the cam chain were the culprit. Not sure i would have bought it wirh that noise though.
From what I've seen is people who don't know how to ride, shift gears and have the rpms up so high the first thing to go is the crank, burns them right up! Top end is always beautiful!
These normally sell in the 3k to 5k range. The seller told him it had a knock and was run low on oil. Pretty need to factor in an engine rebuild at that point.
The nerf bars are Pro Amor Pro XC, which are very good but those are in pretty rough shape. Looks like they would clean up nicely though ...
The stabilizers where if you hit like a stumper something it doesn't pull your handlebars super hard to the left or the right
It will also reduce high speed wobble. Usually there are adjustable to set the resistance the rider likes.
I have watched your channel from the very start and it blows my mind, why u never bring your compression tester with you buy these machines.
I think that's the worst connecting rod and crank I've seen that wasn't a catastrophic failure.
I think that guy knew what was up, It's bad but not that bad. I'm sure you will have it rebuilt in no time. Can't wait to see it in action.
The way he did the oil mod and made it his own “diy oil mod” 😂 smh no wonder this bike is in this condition
You got this tho ! Great content!
The guy you bought it from, AGH! HIS VOICE! I would have walked out just for that!! But love your skills mate! Learning every video!!
Wish I was in the states I'd buy everything I see under 2k 💀
Same lol Alaska is far lol
People want $2000 for junk in most places. Anything under that would be scrap metal.
You’d be overpaying for some real garbage a lot of the time lol
Joe, awesome video. I used to work at Yamaha as a mechanic, and those head bolts are on super tight, they most likely were not over torqued, they are just that tight. 22ft/lbs then 51ft/lbs then back off then 22ft/lbs then 180 degrees is the torque sequence.
I had to put a new headset on my yfz450. That sequence is so weird. But after I got done it fired right up.
Those big old nuts tend to back off, just make sure they're torqued and washer is locked. Great vid Joe.
I hit the like button and doing my best to let the ads roll for all the labor you’re putting into your work Joe. I am envious of how you can keep track of all the parts and what order you are able to reassemble the engines. Keep on rocking it out. Hi Vinnie from Michigan
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@ClickOnProfile60 u lost
Do an engine swap project like a 500 2 stroke it will definitely sell and will be great content
Thanks for another learning moment. I Love Yamaha's but this looks tricky, titanium-valved? Engine teardown I can do, putting the puzzle back together not so much. Even some Vinnytime!
They're junk tbh. Especially if they're left stock. But they do perform really well.
@@4.5.0.Garage was supposed to be "advanced technology" ahead of its time, well maybe you should have waited and tested
doing the one way on my 01 raptor 660 and by chance clicked on this video and now i feel alot better diving into it as somebody who knows little about small engines. Ty
Love your videos!!! I also love reading all of the arm chair mechanics responses!! Everyone is an expert. Fortunately ...you are the one making money on your videos! Keep em coming
Can't imagine not knowing the motor was blown but you the man! Keep up the great work ethic bc its really good to see your abilities!
@ClickOnProfile60 u lost
On 4 strokes, check the oil filter for flakes.
Hi Joe got idea for you why don't you look on copart and bye damage quads you can bye them cheaper than building engines and get a load of spare parts at same time and you get them really cheep think about it great channel by the way
Steering stabilizers are a HUGE help if you ride Enduro racing or just a lot of woods riding.
That’s the fastest quad I’ve ever driven. Couldn’t get out of third gear, too many curves in the road to open it up. Friggin fast quad
Out of all the RUclipsrs I watch you are the best
If you can remove the rod from the crank inspect the crank to see if it survived by and chance and salvage the crank as it is the most expensive part to replace if so do it then it becomes a lot cheaper rebuild
Sounds like the engine was stripped apart for a rebuild The owner at the time then needed the money so slapped it together so it ran and because it was slapped together and not assembled properly it failed to what you have uncovered and when you was inspecting it for the first time my thought was sounds like some form of timing issue
You'll get her running, hopefully as good as your other YFZ 450 you had awhile back. It does make me scratch my head when people don't bend the lock washer over, have repaired many a clutch basket because of that. At least the case halfs were not damaged . :)
I enjoy watching these video. During the teardown process. Things start looking bad. But, You always keep a positive attitude. Looking forward to seeing you reassemble and fire it up.
Having fully built carb 450’s like this one from a junker twice now I’d say it’s better off a parts bike. Rebuilding these things is now mega expensive as they’re so old and need so much to get them spot on.
That stabalizer should stiffen the steering, play around with it. They really help when ripping through bumpy sections real fast
Ive been watching your videos to get a jist on how to work on my bike thanks a ton these videos help so much
That shield symbol is for the company pro armor, they make aftermarket doors, nerf bars and other stuff like that for atvs and SxS
Did you really do all that cranking with no oil in it?
Instant regret, maybe not instant but damn man. They were rough on that poor thing. I'm guessing no maintenance at all ever.dang 450's and the dual cam thing lovethe big bore singles. Very good vid man. Good luck. Over torqued from hell, hope case ain't cracked from that.
Lol so was he. drained the oil and turned it over until it locked up.....
The fact it still turned over a little bit you should be able to ger away with just a piston and crank i personally would do valves and cam to but to each there own
Yeah it's not great but might have been worse, the case, gears and cams seem to be okay, be sure you feel good about the oil pump, this one could be pretty good when you get done with it
Thought your oil looked like silver paint when you drained it. Hopefully no permanent damage once you get all the bearings and worn parts replaced.
There are so many great mechanics on that right now but I think that vintage dude is the best!
I'm learning so much from your vids on how to fix bikes or at least diagnose them. Mabie if I find a bike that needs work and won't hurt me financially I will pick this stuff up again.
I really enjoy you rebuilding 4 wheelers, I've learned a lot from your videos. It seems like no one tells the truth when you buy from them, that sad.
when you said clutch to the guy,of course he is going to agree with you,even though he knew it was more wrong!!!
5 mins in listening to it crank... when it fired it seemed to act against the starter, stalling the engine so maybe the timing has slipped and it fired during the compression stroke ? I would have wanted to check the woodruff key on the crank.
Most of those clunk a little. But I think top end is toast, been treated pretty rough.
Seems pretty obvious that the first guy who rebuilt that engine didn't own a torque wrench.
Wow that rod bearing is absolutely terrorized it's a good thing you're great with transmissions and inter😲😮🤔😳🙄case issues🧐😎
when a sub frame is bent from roll overs usually the main frame is too , is so hard to see till you replace it all and it is slightly still tweaked , looking forward to part 2
It would be cool content to see you press apart the crank and rebuild it/rebalance it. I considered trying that on the last bike I bought with a bad crank but then found weld repairs to the cases so I bought a used bottom end.
According to alot of people I've talked to about cracked cases, a weld in the case is stronger than the original case
@JAEnduro0120 I've had cases welded successfully but I've also seen them leak from the weld.
@@pjm204 it leaked at the bead of the weld? Or from the gasket surface
If you can hear the bearing when you turn it, you should replace it. Don’t go by feel.
These videos just get better and better, i even took some bartering tips away from this video
Same thing happened to my KLR600. I knew it ate the big end bearing the second I heard it fire.
I don’t know or care about engines but for some reason you make it interesting. I also like there is no RUclipsr phony personality or jump cuts.
Yes, sir that crank bearing was toast. WOW!😮 Lucky things wasn't worse.
Cranking it like that with no oil is really smart
❤❤😊 Glad to be back into normalcy, water 💦 is not my friend. So glad that I could follow along with this adventure. I under stood it. Think that will be good buildup for me. Thank 😊😊❤
Good job cranking it over and over with no oil in it
All hail Vinnie, the quad whisperer! 😂
Bushlight says it all... lol😂
I just got a 01 350 worrier. Runs pretty good it has a brand new carb. I just replaced the throttle cable. Now before all that when I got it it ran good. Now it runs high then goes low and shuts off. It's getting fuel. So if you know what it might be let me know. Really like your videos really helpful.
awesome video bro as always i love me a project bike ive got 2 in at the moment and sold 3 i had got a few months ago but there all fixed and sold the last one a phew days ago so got 2 more in as i love fixing bikes thats what i do just like you buddy ill have to make my own channel and start posting videos on the bikes i get etc love the video as always buddy look forward to the 2nd part of the build/repair :)
Those older gen yfz were notorious for bottom end failure cuz of the lack of oil flow
Those are Pro Armor nerf bars....they're a good brand like 4.5/5*
Can't win them all but in the end you get pretty lucky on most so Can't really complain much lol
Love the positive vibes even though it didnt turn out how you expected
Doesn’t have the money to put into the quad but has money for his race cars. Red flag 🚩
Agreed brother, sounds sketchy af brother!🤔😫👎👎👎👁👁👁💀💀💀🤚💀🤚
It kills me because Joe's making a $100000 a year or more off this RUclips channel so he can go ahead and pay inflated prices for junk but it's pissing me off as the rest of us who are watching this getting ready to sell something now they all think that the stuff's worth more than gold that quad was worth $500 tops
@@shawnmclaughlin7418 wouldn’t even pay $300 for that POS
@@shawnmclaughlin7418 $100000 a year?what?
@@yeahright302 with his subs and views its safe to say Joe is making 100k a yr plus whatever he sells sometimes I feel he pays more for some stuff because he needs the content in turn alot of people watch and feel there junk is worth more then it is I call it artificial inflation.
That kid was feeding you nothing but BS. He knows that motor is shot. I predict you'll be buying a new crank on this one Joe.
On my 04 trx 450r back when it was knew i tried one of them elkas. My friend liked it. I hated how it took all feedback from front tires away so i would kick out more than i wanted to on the track.
If you find and 04 450r with original hrc you need to ride it. Pulls like a freight train but only really starts to pull at half throttle. But then will make power right to the limiter.
Sucks mine was stolen about 10 years ago i had stock shocks setup by derisi racing for my weight and my rear linkage was alst replaced by derisi link whick almost eliminates the kick from rearend when suspension got over heated. Hade lonestar racing firered +2.5inch wider and +1forward a-arms and a 2.5 inch extended axle. Was so fast im 130$ soaking wet so i use leave line in 3rd gear i was never beat to first corner on mx.
I lost one time dragracing a banshee that was over 400cc and he only beat me by a bumper.
its pretty amazing the piston didnt hit the head with how much up and down play there is in it
You can't check the oil in these things without them being warm they will show empty if cold. As all the oil drains into the bottom of the case.
Dont make my mistake and put more oil in had 3 quarts in mine before i read the manual lol.... And that issue with the locking up seems to be a bad crank bearing and it doesn't look like that has the oil mod done either... So id assume your splitting those cases.
Unfortunate. I could tell by the sellers hesitant responses that there was more things wrong with that machine than what he was telling
“Tad low on oil, but not that low”🤯
It had gotten low enough that the crank had start getting blue from heat and that rod had rusted from the heat
@@todmatthew5824 Naw, that's just redneck heat treating LOL
Don't worry. It'll buff out
He told him it had run without oil and was knocking. Thats as bad as it gets. "A light doesnt work" is irrelevant at that point.
There is a timing mod he could have done. It's one tooth off wondering if that's why the timing was off by 1 tooth
I really enjoy watching how you go step by step even though that little voice in my head is screaming just tear it down..lol you do a very good job I'm so impressed at how far you have come as a mechanic from your early videos looking forward to seeing how it turns out and anyone who buys any of the machines you rebuilt can know they are definitely getting a top notch quality bike that they will be able to depend on no corners cut
Just another reason I stick with banshees and 250r's
With all the yfzs you got the timing was good how dont you know about the cam mod yet?
Miss my yfz450!!
Some of my “best deals “ are the ones I walked away from!
Love the channel binge watch this with my old man, learned alot of cool tips keep it up dude.
thank you for the video. i dont havea bike anymore but i learn so much watching you. thank you for making these for us
My raptor 700 is completely just thrown together with all the parts they could find. Tons of hanging wires and weird engine noises but she still rips. Prolly needs a rebuild here soon 😂 she’s got jb weld gasket maker and all that good stuff not to mention the plastics are hanging off lmao
The yfz was off one tooth of timing on purpose. Back in the day that was what people did. you can run the same timing as the dirt bike for better performance.
Bravo, another great video. 450 more than enough ponies to get into trouble
Na da kannst dir vorstellen wie der Vorbesitzer mit dem Ding umgegangen ist. Schade um das schöne Quad!!😢
Within the first few cranks the first time you tried staying it i knew it was a spun bearing
Turns out you need a motor-ish