I just bought a ddx 12 I believe for budget wise skar is a decent sub for a regular everyday user for competitions no but just for riding around in the car or truck I think they r pretty decent
I fuck with Skar. I got 2 ZVR s on a RP4500 Skar amp. I know people with JL audio subs and amp. Spent all that money. My shit hit way harder. People like what they like. Sundown over priced
I have American bass 6 15s and when I was looking for my 18s I went with the evls there was no other decent subs in the 280 price range... American bass cheapest 18 I could find was 584...Anyway I'm very happy with my evls, there's a shit ton of videos on my channel...I've also rebuilt a EVL18 as well...There great depending on what u are using them for...I have all 6 15s and both 18s in my house and for my application there perfect...To each there own lol....Your enclosure will make a world of difference to how u feel about them...U need a huge and I mean huge box...That's something I have, solid 1 inch thick acrylic boxes lol...I'm happy with my purchase
I started in car audio in the mid 80’s/early 90’ when ONLY Kicker(no amps yet) & “the Punch” Rockford Fosgate had subs but I used only Kicker subs and HiFonics amps( made by Zeb Audio then)! Then got back into car audio in 20’ when I bought a new honda civic turbo. I received a SKAR BASS package from wife with (1) “10” Skar SDR DV2 in factory enclosure with RP800. Worked good, wanted more! I moved up to the Down4Sound JP8 “The Blue Beast” and upgraded my sub to the (1) 10” SVR DVC2 always run my system at 1 ohm. I now want the Skar 12” DDX DVC2 in their factory rhino sprayed enclosure because I work and can’t afford Sundown and the Super Expensive enclosures from D4S! I Love the (1) JP8 🔊❤️💪! I even purchased (2) to slave or strap later)! I like your honesty and will definitely go with Skar’s 12” DDX DVC2 with the knowledge you passed to me to stay away from EVL I had considered! “Thank You!” #Down4Sound#JP8❤#Skar12”DDX@Jerryaintloud
I had a vxf 12 for a bit, my second car audio sub. It hit pretty good and sounded pretty good. There’s definitely better out there but for 250 bucks it didn’t disappoint. Got me into car audio and I think that’s the best part about skar, it appeals to young people on a budget. Whatever gets people into car audio I can’t hate on. Had some skar vvx 15s for a few months and my concept 10s outperformed them on a quarter of the power. Just flip until you find what you like weather that be skar, or sundown, or Rockford, ect..
Lmao same i didn’t know to much about t/s parameters at the time. Year ago I bought 2 evl 12s... coming from kicker l7s. Needless to say I was disappointed so i decided to try skar one more time with vxf. And was actually happy. Its nun to brag about but i set off car alarms no prob.
Bought the hooligan straight out in the beginning of building now I got to build my electrical up to it and I don’t regret it all. They say the DS18 Hooligan is a beast so we will see.
Is the American Bass Godfather any good. I seen an 18" AB Godfather 4" flat wound coil 400 ounce motor for $450 or do you think an 18" 315 ounce motor Skar ZVX 3" coil sub for $407 would be a better choice?? I like lows and the ZVX moves 29mm of xmax and the Godfather only moves 20mm. I was thinking the ZVX is better because I see way more vids on the ZVX 26Hertz fs sub. Yes the 18" frequency is 20 and up fs. The 12" and 15" ZVX fs is around 40hz but the 18" is near 26fs.
I would like to know this too. I've been debating getting one. I just got the Meso 6.5 3 way components, 6.5 coax, and a CT.150-4d. It sounds pretty good for the money, but now I'm craving some bass.
I'm running 5 zvx 15s on 10k clamped and they sound pretty good in my wall build. They definitely handle alot of power . on 20k these would meet my goal 163+
U just have a crappy enclosure buddy.. In a nice wall build on decent power they get loud and low they sound decent they are not the best sounding subs but they got pretty brutal and loud . I'm running 5 DDX 15s now on the same power they sound pretty good my wall is very musical
Thanks for saving me some money in the future, I was traded an RP2K and 2 SVR 12’s in a custom box (which sound pretty good) but I was about to add another RP2K and swap out the SVR’s for EVL’s and now I will be going a whole other route! Much appreciated! My SVR’s are only 800watts rms and sound better than my buddies EVL’s and Now I will be getting real equipment when upgrading!
This review on the evl is kinda hoarse shit he’s basing it solely on motor force and that’s it. Motor force is crucial but it’s not the Bain of the subs existence
@@Abowe3404 I have 3 12 inch evl and what this guys says might be wright but he is way wrong when he says they dont bump. It bumps and you can hear from a mile away coming... I am going to try these american subs he is talking about..
@@lesteranderson3350 don’t do American bass, I would never waist my money on those ever I’ve heard soooo many system with American bass subs and just do not like them period
Jerry. I have 1200 watts of clean class d power at 2 ohms in a vw hatch. I want a single sub. $300 budget. I’ll build my own box not included in budget. You think a 12” xfl dual 4 would be a good choice?
Jerry, Im glad you said it bud. I did a super cheap build in 1 of my cars, and im not ashamed to say I used 2 10" Skar DDXs. The fact of the matter is, if your going to buy Skar, the DDX is definitely the best choice when you look at specs, which is also why I went with the 10's instead of 12's of 15's.. not really gaining much by spending more. youre better off getting 4 10s then 2 15s. Regardless, if you want to do economy, do the DDX, or stay away from Skar, PERIOD
I have ran the Skar EVL 18's for years without issue. I have 4 currently in the bed of my Ford Ranger and they perform very well for their budget price. I would buy them again in a heart beat. That being said I do plan on upgrading in the future and moving away from Skar. But for now they get the job done🤷🤷 I don't understand the hate, bass is bass. Run whatever brand you feel like and who knows maybe that sub everyone drags could do well in the right enclosure, vehicle, and right amount of power
I’ve been listening to how EVLs sound in the trunk. And they beat da hell out of the trunk. I think it boils down to how you want your system to sound. I don’t care for lows. I really been trying my best to justify getting the Sundown X but I don’t like how they sound. I got 2 XFL and they beat but I can’t fit 4 in my trunk. But I can fit 4 evls in the trunk. And I don’t mind running what might seem like BS. If someone wants to buy something better and give them to me I will send my address and pay for shipping
The skar evls do suck I have 6 evl 15s on a 12k and I plan on changing them out to something bigger and better but I am doing a 156.5 headrest and honestly I should have went with DDX’s or zvxs I was in a hurry for slam
Was Running 4 zvx 18s on 2 8ks and they stopped inviting me to the local bass meets. Now I'm running 6 18s and everyone hates me more.... the dc guys and sundown guys 🤷
Ordered my refurb xv2 15” through dave leib,every jammin for 16 months straight,yes its in a prefab,but its a bassahaulic tuned to 31hz….hopefully get my second soon 🔊going for 28hz tuning on the new box
Old school basshead here, Ran Rockford fosgate, crossfire, Kicker JL, in the 90s , Have klipsch and Martin logans in the house, I will not claim Skar is better than any of those compaines, However, I recently decided to buy the WORST SKAR SUBS I could find. The IX series, and theyre 8s I built a custom 2 cube box for, @34 hz 25" port area. I had NO budget for subs, and my factory stereo was FRIED along with all the mids .so it was this or nothing. Wasnt really expecting much, & I was Shocked actually how good they sound. They play lower & louder than my RE audio 12" in a 3 cube ported box. People that hear them get real mad, #1 dont believe theyre SKAR...#2 dont believe theyre JUST 8s...and #3 they shure the hell dont believe they are $39 ix series! There is NOTHING on the market under $40 that can hold a candle. Now when you get into the more expensive EVL DDX, then ya..you got other options. Skar has its place... low budget builds for brokea$$es like me.
@@JerryAintloud Sir I just saw on the news this morning that Starbucks is having a recalled on vanilla bottle coffee? I know that's your drink just giving you a heads up?
Show me louder setup for $290 shipped to my door. 2 12s in a box. The skar SDR package is the best for the money. If there is anything else I will test it. The only thing that was better was the audio legion skar copies (Armada) loaded box for $189 shipped. I'm more into the everyday bass head under 1000 watts a sub. Most people don't know anyone or can't build boxes.
Majority People that knock Skar get a pre-fab, & couldn't build an acoustically solid enclosure if they're life depended on it, then they crank the gain up & blame the woofer.
Literally zero comparison. Skar doesnt have a single sub in their catalog that can do what the U series does in terms of efficiency and spl leaning design. Its not the best Sundown driver for lows, its more spl oriented, purpose built. Wonderful subs. I have 4 15” Us on a pair of Salt 6s that took me to 3rd at World Finals last November.
Don't believe the hype of this video. Skar vxf & zvx are both the best subs you can get for the money, Period. Going from a skar zvx to a sundown x series is not a real big upgrade like you would think it is. The skar zvx spider is stiffer than a sundown x spider, giving it the ability to make lows sound better right out the box. But after two years of everyday banging, the spider become very loose, which makes the lower notes play deeper of course, but soon a recone is needed. While the skar zvx spider would still be feeling closer to being new. Sure if lows are what your goal is, the woofer with the softer soft parts will have a edge. While the one with the stiffer parts would have a edge on punchiness. Point blank, if the sundown x is costing $550 dollars, then the skar zvx should cost $489. Because it's not that big of a difference when you actually playing with these subs in the same system and with the same power. The sundown x 12 would blow before skar zvx 12 would, that's if you are looking to hit spl numbers on a spl meter. I know from experience.
I agree with you completely, I always try and steer new bass heads towards the Ab Elite or XFL. I'm not mad at Skar for getting people into the game, and they run a crap ton of advertising is the reason why they are so popular. But there are better subs in the "entry" level price range, American Bass, Soundqubed, and my favorite SSA who makes a very affordable Demon sub that will jam and sound good. Too many think you cant have a sub that hammers and sounds good, you absolutely can. Now burp subs are a different animal, but that's a whole other story lol.
Glad I caught your video, I just picked up 2 DDX-10 D4s complimented with a CT-2000.1D amp. I checked out the EVL series and was concerned about the motor size compared to the DDX subs, the price doesn't make sense. But I'm new to the car audio game, I just like bass. Not looking to break any records or compete.
I'm not surprised! I figured out the Evl's and Zvx how they perform by owning them they budget wise but not that quality top sub out there. I missed my Dual 10 sundown E line sub but they sure sq and thumping
Did a 158 on 4 skar evl 15s d2 in a series 6th on 4 Wolfram c2400.1s with shit voltage it's all in the box man lol going to 2 Wolfram au 18s in a 6th now
I agree with you my friend. I don't have a preference when it comes to subs. I have had so many of them it isn't funny. I couldn't really tell you what was good and what wasn't. We all have our mishaps where they blow as well as amps. The only piece of advice I have to offer is test and try them out. Once you have everything figured out and it sounds good is the the only thing that matters.
I had 2 15s Sundown zv5s absolutey loved them I ended up selling them about a yr ago now I just bought 2 Skar zvx 15s going on a taramps md8k because money is tight but we will see if theyre bad enough that I end up buying zv6s
There's a lot of brands that are good bass is bass depending on the money spent I've had my same zvxv2 15s almost 4 years never once have they had a issue only issues I've had is with door panels and tail light breaking can't speak on the evls or vxfs but the zvx are badass and get loud! Bass on bassheads!!!
Glad i watched this i was about to send my 1 simgle ddx back to get the evl. But i think im gonna get the xfl. Its missing something. Im not sure why but my old eclipse titanium 750 watt hit harder.....or maybe its just more cleaner on the lows then the ddx.
I got skar zvl 3000 watts peak power and I think it says 1500 rms I got 2 of them also a taramp 8k there junk still got them not happy at all but o well I really want 15 inch this time around
I don’t know too much about the evils or the DDX. My first time to ever buy that brand was the ZVX version. And I started out with the 18s. And so far I’ve never had a problem with them. I just know that they’re way better than my kickers that I was running. But what do you think about the ZVX?. Just some advice.
Well skar is relatively new, they have only been around for 10 years, but after 16 years of running pioneer everything, I'm talking about pioneer radio, pioneer mids and highs, and pioneer amps, with pioneer preimer subs, but, 4 years ago I switched to 2 skar audio svr 12s and put my premier 20s in a different truck, and for the price of 415$ for the box and the 2 12s, ill say it does absolutely amazing in a medium size car on a respectfully sized amp, so pretty much yes there is way better stuff and way more pricer things, but skar isn't bad at all, there just cheap.....
I never owned skar I do have triple audiopipe bdc4 12s in my van and audiopipe apdlo-30001d amplifier and 2 audiopipe bdc4 12s in my wife's car with a jp2300 amplifier and 2 audiopipe bdc4 12s and audiopipe apmn-2000 amplifier in my boys car it's definitely budget system but really impresses me I hear the skar amplifiers and skar subwoofers are trash I do watch a lot of RUclips before buying stuff and more people say skar sucks so I avoided skar lol
Just bought two 12's ddx & the rp2000. & they bang ! Not saying that cause I bought them & spent money on them. If they sucked I would absolutely say I m pissed these things fkn suck. But for I m happy. Later on dw the line I might upgrade but for now there banging
This is my honest truth to you man. I only buy americanbass/skar audio and I've had xfl 10s and evl 10s and 1v1 you can't really tell much other than a few notes from the xfl that gets a tad bit louder. The evls are actually a great sub at least the 10s are. I've also had vfl audio 6.5s and 8s and americanbass hd 8s 12s and 18s also had skar ix 8s zvx 8s and evl 6.5s and vfl audio 6.5 vs evl 6.5 there is no competition cause the vfl audio is way better but all in all skar is not a bad brand. It's all on the user and how it's all hooked up really. I've had systems from single 6.5s all way to 6 18s with 10k amps to small amps. Bass is bass and in all honesty it's either you wanna play either loud(SPL), windy, or musical(SQ) and on what power in how much space you are filling aka the cabin. Yes my xfl 10 vs evl 10 would outperform it on the meter but the evl actually dose sound more musical then the xfl but like 2 db quieter lol but to me you really start getting good subwoofer once you get the evl subs or better or americanbass xfl subs or better. My best subwoofer I've ever had would either be my vfl godfather 18 or the audiopipe bdc4 18. Both subs got extremely loud and low and sounded great imo both did at least a 155db. But I would never bash on skar, yes they have some stupid shit line of subs but they also have some pretty badass ones to lol
i dont think skar actually designs their subs based on any type of parameters.. they just contract with a chinese sub maker and have them shipped! I bought 2 zvx's one came with a rubbing voice coil.. then the 2nd replacement had glue slopped all over the speaker basket and terminals! i had to chip glue off for 20 mins just to be able to use the sub!! when i emailed about that i didnt even get a response!
dude are you serious about Skar i saved up $1700.00 dollars i was going to get Skar Evl series 12" with box and a amp Now by watching you guys saying these sucks man thanks for this video. I also seen Sundown 12" with box are they any good.
if you have that much I’d go with a custom box. Night & day difference, evl series actually impressed me for the $$. Vxf series is a pretty sql sub that I’ll definitely suggest over the evls if you would like to try out skar(: .
Man I wish I would found this vid before I got my evl now I know why it’s not hitting like I thought it would I was thinking I needed more power but now I know 🤙
I'm running 3 12 inch evl dont be to worried, make up your mind after you bump it. Im running 4500 watts too two of them and dont ever even get a burning smell and they bump hard as fu*k thats the only thing I disagree with this guy with. Even with a smaller motor they still bump like crazyyy...
I run 2 evl 12’s and 2 rp2k amps one for each sub. I bet what Jerry is saying, but I e had zero issues with my evl’s and they rattle pictures off the walls in my house from my driveway.. maybe they’re not the best or even close to the best, but for what I have into my system.. it bangs hard as shit, and sets off car alarms… and no I’m not some skar nut swinger, just a budget basshead who likes his skars..
Ok the guy at skar was part of the Sundown team. He didn't agree with the way Sundown was going so he branch off creating skar. If you notice the ddx and the vxf are replicas of Sundown sub. They are good subs but built qith some cheap parts which is why they arent as expensive as the Sundown. Now noticed years have passed and skar hasnt come up with anything new. Because he was the student. The teacher whos still with Sundown has come up with the nsv4/5 ,the new zvx6 and the new prototype w surround which is nothing like jbl or cerwin vega. I was running the sa15d4rev3 and loved them now im running the vxf 12s and love them. I personally dont like the evl but if it makes you happy then thags all that matters. Ppl need to respect other opinions regardless if you agree or disagree. Keep onbassin
Okay I understand where you coming from I bought the skar sdr 15 D4 to actually see what all the hype was about skar and I'm not impressed with them and I had them professionally installed and had my amp turned and one sub is making a weird noise
The problem is that you bought one of the lower tier skar gear. Ofc it’s not gonna be 150+ loud lol grab a vxf or even svr (one tier higher) & you’ll be impressed 🙂
@@charleswilliams3336 ddx 15 d4 (2) in a custom box & you can be slamming for very cheap tbh & they can take some power for being cheap so you can throw 3-5krms at them & they’ll take the abuse
I guess this is the truth I had to hear. I have EVL's. I guess i'll just use them until they die or I sell them. Thought about going with FI audio, Resilient Sounds, or Sundown.
I hear what you saying and want to learn more but your making a bad argument. I think you are saying the American Bass xfl is better then a skar Ddx 12. But you started out saying there are better subs for the same or cheaper price. The xfl is twice the cost currently. I would expect it to be better. (Not a spl guy, just like lots of boom boom). Ps. Thanks for what you do for 12v world.
Sdr are shit too, but I have ddx 15s now, and a mmats dreadnaut 15, on 4500 watt soundstream , in a el expedition , ddx I am impressed with but prefer my dreadnaut
I have 2 skar zvx 12's the worst sounding speakers i ever owned!!! i originally wanted the american bass HD series but they were out of stock so i went with the zvx :( heck id trade my 2 zvx's for 2 American bass XFL's and they are much cheaper! i feel like most car audio guys wouldnt know good sound quality if it bit them in the ass!! whenever they wanna argue i ask them about their home setups most these guys dont even have listening rooms in their homes! I paid more for the bryllium midranges and tweaters in my custom build home speakers than most ppl spend on their entire car audio systems!! i wont even mention what i paid for my McIntosh MC2152!!!
I just bought a ddx 12 I believe for budget wise skar is a decent sub for a regular everyday user for competitions no but just for riding around in the car or truck I think they r pretty decent
I fuck with Skar. I got 2 ZVR s on a RP4500 Skar amp. I know people with JL audio subs and amp. Spent all that money. My shit hit way harder. People like what they like. Sundown over priced
Lol
@@Izzymeyokee1 I agree
I have American bass 6 15s and when I was looking for my 18s I went with the evls there was no other decent subs in the 280 price range... American bass cheapest 18 I could find was 584...Anyway I'm very happy with my evls, there's a shit ton of videos on my channel...I've also rebuilt a EVL18 as well...There great depending on what u are using them for...I have all 6 15s and both 18s in my house and for my application there perfect...To each there own lol....Your enclosure will make a world of difference to how u feel about them...U need a huge and I mean huge box...That's something I have, solid 1 inch thick acrylic boxes lol...I'm happy with my purchase
No you don't 😂
I started in car audio in the mid 80’s/early 90’ when ONLY Kicker(no amps yet) & “the Punch” Rockford Fosgate had subs but I used only Kicker subs and HiFonics amps( made by Zeb Audio then)! Then got back into car audio in 20’ when I bought a new honda civic turbo. I received a SKAR BASS package from wife with (1) “10” Skar SDR DV2 in factory enclosure with RP800. Worked good, wanted more! I moved up to the Down4Sound JP8 “The Blue Beast” and upgraded my sub to the (1) 10” SVR DVC2 always run my system at 1 ohm. I now want the Skar 12” DDX DVC2 in their factory rhino sprayed enclosure because I work and can’t afford Sundown and the Super Expensive enclosures from D4S! I Love the (1) JP8 🔊❤️💪! I even purchased (2) to slave or strap later)! I like your honesty and will definitely go with Skar’s 12” DDX DVC2 with the knowledge you passed to me to stay away from EVL I had considered! “Thank You!” #Down4Sound#JP8❤#Skar12”DDX@Jerryaintloud
I had a vxf 12 for a bit, my second car audio sub. It hit pretty good and sounded pretty good. There’s definitely better out there but for 250 bucks it didn’t disappoint. Got me into car audio and I think that’s the best part about skar, it appeals to young people on a budget. Whatever gets people into car audio I can’t hate on. Had some skar vvx 15s for a few months and my concept 10s outperformed them on a quarter of the power. Just flip until you find what you like weather that be skar, or sundown, or Rockford, ect..
I went skar svr 12 d4 on a skar skv2 1500 and im doin 144s in a trunk build for now but i plan on upgrading to deafbonce 3012 or 3512s d2s on a cab45
I'm new to Car audio and Skar Audio doing the job for me with just a 12in VS-12 in a ported shallow box and it sounds good to me.
I'm kind of thankful i got rid of my EVL's 12s and went to the VXF's 12s.
Lmao same i didn’t know to much about t/s parameters at the time. Year ago I bought 2 evl 12s... coming from kicker l7s. Needless to say I was disappointed so i decided to try skar one more time with vxf. And was actually happy. Its nun to brag about but i set off car alarms no prob.
ZVX 3000 watts have 2 and a 4500 all Skar
Same here!
I had two genx da18 and upgraded two skar evl 12s and i noticed the audio quality was ass. Still with the evl 12s.... up to this day 😢
Bought the hooligan straight out in the beginning of building now I got to build my electrical up to it and I don’t regret it all. They say the DS18 Hooligan is a beast so we will see.
Is the American Bass Godfather any good. I seen an 18" AB Godfather 4" flat wound coil 400 ounce motor for $450 or do you think an 18" 315 ounce motor Skar ZVX 3" coil sub for $407 would be a better choice?? I like lows and the ZVX moves 29mm of xmax and the Godfather only moves 20mm. I was thinking the ZVX is better because I see way more vids on the ZVX 26Hertz fs sub. Yes the 18" frequency is 20 and up fs. The 12" and 15" ZVX fs is around 40hz but the 18" is near 26fs.
Right on, I have an XFL and it's awesome hits the lows just right
What's your thoughts on the ct-sound meso 12"
I would like to know this too. I've been debating getting one. I just got the Meso 6.5 3 way components, 6.5 coax, and a CT.150-4d. It sounds pretty good for the money, but now I'm craving some bass.
@java575 I actually picked up 2 meso 12's running on that 1 on load on CT sounds at 3000.1d, they sound really good.
I'm running 5 zvx 15s on 10k clamped and they sound pretty good in my wall build. They definitely handle alot of power . on 20k these would meet my goal
163+
you gotta be tone deaf!!!!
I been trying to sell my trash zvx 12's for the past 3 months because the sound quality is so terrible!!!
U just have a crappy enclosure buddy.. In a nice wall build on decent power they get loud and low they sound decent they are not the best sounding subs but they got pretty brutal and loud . I'm running 5 DDX 15s now on the same power they sound pretty good my wall is very musical
Thanks for saving me some money in the future, I was traded an RP2K and 2 SVR 12’s in a custom box (which sound pretty good) but I was about to add another RP2K and swap out the SVR’s for EVL’s and now I will be going a whole other route! Much appreciated! My SVR’s are only 800watts rms and sound better than my buddies EVL’s and Now I will be getting real equipment when upgrading!
This review on the evl is kinda hoarse shit he’s basing it solely on motor force and that’s it. Motor force is crucial but it’s not the Bain of the subs existence
@@Abowe3404 I have 3 12 inch evl and what this guys says might be wright but he is way wrong when he says they dont bump. It bumps and you can hear from a mile away coming... I am going to try these american subs he is talking about..
@@lesteranderson3350 don’t do American bass, I would never waist my money on those ever I’ve heard soooo many system with American bass subs and just do not like them period
Jerry. I have 1200 watts of clean class d power at 2 ohms in a vw hatch. I want a single sub. $300 budget. I’ll build my own box not included in budget. You think a 12” xfl dual 4 would be a good choice?
Whats your opinoin on ds18 HY6MSL door speakers? Are they worth the 66$
Jerry, Im glad you said it bud. I did a super cheap build in 1 of my cars, and im not ashamed to say I used 2 10" Skar DDXs. The fact of the matter is, if your going to buy Skar, the DDX is definitely the best choice when you look at specs, which is also why I went with the 10's instead of 12's of 15's.. not really gaining much by spending more. youre better off getting 4 10s then 2 15s. Regardless, if you want to do economy, do the DDX, or stay away from Skar, PERIOD
I don't know I don't think four tens to two:15 is a comparison. Maybe three 10-in against 215 in then what would you take.
@@Simpleman1078two 15s in that situation all day
At the end of the day people like what they like skar life
Glad I bought 2 ddxs with the budget I had then
It’s actually crazy how much people cope with overpaying like this.
"same size as a McDouble" lmao. You're awesome, dude!
I have evl 12's now and I agree something is wrong with these subs they don't hit like they're suppose to
what subs do u recommend for the same price as the skar ?
thats the thing...
what is the subs for that $$$
He said American Bass a few times in the video
I have ran the Skar EVL 18's for years without issue. I have 4 currently in the bed of my Ford Ranger and they perform very well for their budget price. I would buy them again in a heart beat. That being said I do plan on upgrading in the future and moving away from Skar. But for now they get the job done🤷🤷 I don't understand the hate, bass is bass. Run whatever brand you feel like and who knows maybe that sub everyone drags could do well in the right enclosure, vehicle, and right amount of power
if you like them run them, it's just that there's far better for the money
I’ve been listening to how EVLs sound in the trunk. And they beat da hell out of the trunk. I think it boils down to how you want your system to sound. I don’t care for lows. I really been trying my best to justify getting the Sundown X but I don’t like how they sound. I got 2 XFL and they beat but I can’t fit 4 in my trunk. But I can fit 4 evls in the trunk. And I don’t mind running what might seem like BS. If someone wants to buy something better and give them to me I will send my address and pay for shipping
The skar evls do suck I have 6 evl 15s on a 12k and I plan on changing them out to something bigger and better but I am doing a 156.5 headrest and honestly I should have went with DDX’s or zvxs I was in a hurry for slam
The zvx are beasts. And the svr has all the specs and way better motor force then the evl
So what about the plye Blue wave 10 inch sub
What do u think about running 2 sundown audio sa 15’s on 2 taramps 3k bass
Are they the v1s?
@@gabriellopez2531 v3 and I changed Amps to the cerwin vega 3k’s
@@1uz.charlie thats should pound cause i have one on 3k and it sounds good
I never ran skar audio but I have a few friends that do I have DD psi sundown and massive hippos some time you have to buy what you can afford?
Hay man can you talk about Orion, I got an Orion system and I want to hear your view
That's a good idea thx.
Was Running 4 zvx 18s on 2 8ks and they stopped inviting me to the local bass meets. Now I'm running 6 18s and everyone hates me more.... the dc guys and sundown guys 🤷
What about their tweeters and speakers
SKAR=Alibaba Audio.
Wolfram ag v2 vs skar evl what you think
What do you think of soundqubed? This is the first video of yours I've ran across of yours so I apologize if you've already covered it.
it's owned by DD just their budget brand, i haven't tried them..
Hey jerry what about 2 vxf 15s? Worth the money?
In the right box with 5k they'd outperform setups with way more $$$$ invested
I bought a EVL yesterday and it blew up on the next day, i was running AB xfl before and my friend recommended me and I regret it
Ordered my refurb xv2 15” through dave leib,every jammin for 16 months straight,yes its in a prefab,but its a bassahaulic tuned to 31hz….hopefully get my second soon 🔊going for 28hz tuning on the new box
Jacob at sundown got Dave leib to help because he was a failure. Dave is doing shit for them they couldn't.
Thank god for Dave
Us old bassheads called it Skarbage for a reason lmao. Decent gear for new folks I can admit
Old school basshead here, Ran Rockford fosgate, crossfire, Kicker JL, in the 90s , Have klipsch and Martin logans in the house,
I will not claim Skar is better than any of those compaines, However, I recently decided to buy the WORST SKAR SUBS I could find. The IX series, and theyre 8s I built a custom 2 cube box for, @34 hz 25" port area. I had NO budget for subs, and my factory stereo was FRIED along with all the mids .so it was this or nothing. Wasnt really expecting much, & I was Shocked actually how good they sound. They play lower & louder than my RE audio 12" in a 3 cube ported box. People that hear them get real mad, #1 dont believe theyre SKAR...#2 dont believe theyre JUST 8s...and #3 they shure the hell dont believe they are $39 ix series!
There is NOTHING on the market under $40 that can hold a candle.
Now when you get into the more expensive EVL DDX, then ya..you got other options.
Skar has its place... low budget builds for brokea$$es like me.
Wish I would have watched this video before I bought 4 8 inch evls 😂. Now I gotta save for sundown v3 x8
Sir when you get a chance what kinda of ds 18 subwoofers you are running im thinking about buying a pair I want the best they have just your thoughts?
i tried the hooligans and didn't like them.. I run G2 Genesys
@@JerryAintloud Sir I just saw on the news this morning that Starbucks is having a recalled on vanilla bottle coffee? I know that's your drink just giving you a heads up?
By the Skar ZVX 3000 watts. And a Skar 45000. That combo hit.
I move air at 11 hz with a single EVL 18
You’re gonna move air with any sub at 11 hz
Hey Jerry can you do a video on what you think about the avatar stu series
Show me louder setup for $290 shipped to my door. 2 12s in a box. The skar SDR package is the best for the money. If there is anything else I will test it. The only thing that was better was the audio legion skar copies (Armada) loaded box for $189 shipped. I'm more into the everyday bass head under 1000 watts a sub. Most people don't know anyone or can't build boxes.
Majority People that knock Skar get a pre-fab, & couldn't build an acoustically solid enclosure if they're life depended on it, then they crank the gain up & blame the woofer.
Cant wait to see the hooligans in action. My buddy is doing a 147 with a single hooligan clamping 1700 watts. Theyre beast subwoofers
Wait…he’s going hooligan???
@@joseph1039 yeah he ran 4 in his wifes blazer. didnt really like them. i wish the black basket hooligans were out and he got those instead
Sooo would you say that the sounddown U line is better than the skar zvx im looking at getting an 18”
Literally zero comparison. Skar doesnt have a single sub in their catalog that can do what the U series does in terms of efficiency and spl leaning design. Its not the best Sundown driver for lows, its more spl oriented, purpose built. Wonderful subs. I have 4 15” Us on a pair of Salt 6s that took me to 3rd at World Finals last November.
Don't believe the hype of this video. Skar vxf & zvx are both the best subs you can get for the money, Period. Going from a skar zvx to a sundown x series is not a real big upgrade like you would think it is. The skar zvx spider is stiffer than a sundown x spider, giving it the ability to make lows sound better right out the box. But after two years of everyday banging, the spider become very loose, which makes the lower notes play deeper of course, but soon a recone is needed. While the skar zvx spider would still be feeling closer to being new. Sure if lows are what your goal is, the woofer with the softer soft parts will have a edge. While the one with the stiffer parts would have a edge on punchiness. Point blank, if the sundown x is costing $550 dollars, then the skar zvx should cost $489. Because it's not that big of a difference when you actually playing with these subs in the same system and with the same power. The sundown x 12 would blow before skar zvx 12 would, that's if you are looking to hit spl numbers on a spl meter. I know from experience.
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bass is bass. bang what you can afford not everybody can afford pride audio
I agree with you completely, I always try and steer new bass heads towards the Ab Elite or XFL. I'm not mad at Skar for getting people into the game, and they run a crap ton of advertising is the reason why they are so popular. But there are better subs in the "entry" level price range, American Bass, Soundqubed, and my favorite SSA who makes a very affordable Demon sub that will jam and sound good. Too many think you cant have a sub that hammers and sounds good, you absolutely can. Now burp subs are a different animal, but that's a whole other story lol.
Glad I caught your video, I just picked up 2 DDX-10 D4s complimented with a CT-2000.1D amp. I checked out the EVL series and was concerned about the motor size compared to the DDX subs, the price doesn't make sense. But I'm new to the car audio game, I just like bass. Not looking to break any records or compete.
Nowadays ppl compare skar to ct sounds. Do you like ct sounds?
I'm not surprised! I figured out the Evl's and Zvx how they perform by owning them they budget wise but not that quality top sub out there. I missed my Dual 10 sundown E line sub but they sure sq and thumping
Did a 158 on 4 skar evl 15s d2 in a series 6th on 4 Wolfram c2400.1s with shit voltage it's all in the box man lol going to 2 Wolfram au 18s in a 6th now
I agree with you my friend. I don't have a preference when it comes to subs. I have had so many of them it isn't funny. I couldn't really tell you what was good and what wasn't. We all have our mishaps where they blow as well as amps. The only piece of advice I have to offer is test and try them out. Once you have everything figured out and it sounds good is the the only thing that matters.
I had 2 15s Sundown zv5s absolutey loved them I ended up selling them about a yr ago now I just bought 2 Skar zvx 15s going on a taramps md8k because money is tight but we will see if theyre bad enough that I end up buying zv6s
That’s really good to know very helpful
There's a lot of brands that are good bass is bass depending on the money spent I've had my same zvxv2 15s almost 4 years never once have they had a issue only issues I've had is with door panels and tail light breaking can't speak on the evls or vxfs but the zvx are badass and get loud! Bass on bassheads!!!
Glad i watched this i was about to send my 1 simgle ddx back to get the evl. But i think im gonna get the xfl. Its missing something. Im not sure why but my old eclipse titanium 750 watt hit harder.....or maybe its just more cleaner on the lows then the ddx.
PREACH!!
I had 2 ddx 12s on a jp23 a few months ago and I loved them but had to go bigger😂😂
Thx Jerry!
I got skar zvl 3000 watts peak power and I think it says 1500 rms I got 2 of them also a taramp 8k there junk still got them not happy at all but o well I really want 15 inch this time around
I don’t know too much about the evils or the DDX. My first time to ever buy that brand was the ZVX version. And I started out with the 18s. And so far I’ve never had a problem with them. I just know that they’re way better than my kickers that I was running. But what do you think about the ZVX?. Just some advice.
In some point of a couple videos he talks highly of the vxf and ddx but that's it
I had 2-15 inch EVL’s and they were bad.
Everything you said is on point Jerry
I agree they are kind of utility subs but they take the power the best of all the cheap brands I've tried. Way better than Rockville
DDX!#🔊❤️
Can you do one on kicker?
Well skar is relatively new, they have only been around for 10 years, but after 16 years of running pioneer everything, I'm talking about pioneer radio, pioneer mids and highs, and pioneer amps, with pioneer preimer subs, but, 4 years ago I switched to 2 skar audio svr 12s and put my premier 20s in a different truck, and for the price of 415$ for the box and the 2 12s, ill say it does absolutely amazing in a medium size car on a respectfully sized amp, so pretty much yes there is way better stuff and way more pricer things, but skar isn't bad at all, there just cheap.....
Me personally I've never owned skar subs but I can speak very good on the amplifiers
I never owned skar I do have triple audiopipe bdc4 12s in my van and audiopipe apdlo-30001d amplifier and 2 audiopipe bdc4 12s in my wife's car with a jp2300 amplifier and 2 audiopipe bdc4 12s and audiopipe apmn-2000 amplifier in my boys car it's definitely budget system but really impresses me I hear the skar amplifiers and skar subwoofers are trash I do watch a lot of RUclips before buying stuff and more people say skar sucks so I avoided skar lol
Skar sk amps are great. Rp is trash
You should do more videos like this I follow you on TikTok and ur a inspiration
Was looking at Skars for a while as I'm on a budget. Refurbished SA V2 15s are what I've decided on
You won’t be disappointed. I got 2 12s and shit is banging.
I just got done switching out my (2)10" skar VD for (2) sundown U10 and it's night and day
Great video. You left out the fact that skar makes up all their t/s parameters.
Just bought two 12's ddx & the rp2000. & they bang ! Not saying that cause I bought them & spent money on them. If they sucked I would absolutely say I m pissed these things fkn suck. But for I m happy. Later on dw the line I might upgrade but for now there banging
This is my honest truth to you man. I only buy americanbass/skar audio and I've had xfl 10s and evl 10s and 1v1 you can't really tell much other than a few notes from the xfl that gets a tad bit louder. The evls are actually a great sub at least the 10s are. I've also had vfl audio 6.5s and 8s and americanbass hd 8s 12s and 18s also had skar ix 8s zvx 8s and evl 6.5s and vfl audio 6.5 vs evl 6.5 there is no competition cause the vfl audio is way better but all in all skar is not a bad brand. It's all on the user and how it's all hooked up really. I've had systems from single 6.5s all way to 6 18s with 10k amps to small amps. Bass is bass and in all honesty it's either you wanna play either loud(SPL), windy, or musical(SQ) and on what power in how much space you are filling aka the cabin. Yes my xfl 10 vs evl 10 would outperform it on the meter but the evl actually dose sound more musical then the xfl but like 2 db quieter lol but to me you really start getting good subwoofer once you get the evl subs or better or americanbass xfl subs or better. My best subwoofer I've ever had would either be my vfl godfather 18 or the audiopipe bdc4 18. Both subs got extremely loud and low and sounded great imo both did at least a 155db. But I would never bash on skar, yes they have some stupid shit line of subs but they also have some pretty badass ones to lol
I think it's funny even though I have a evl 12😂. Got a good deal on it that's the only reason got it
Agreed on damn near everything. ❤
i dont think skar actually designs their subs based on any type of parameters.. they just contract with a chinese sub maker and have them shipped! I bought 2 zvx's one came with a rubbing voice coil.. then the 2nd replacement had glue slopped all over the speaker basket and terminals! i had to chip glue off for 20 mins just to be able to use the sub!! when i emailed about that i didnt even get a response!
dude are you serious about Skar i saved up $1700.00 dollars i was going to get Skar Evl series 12" with box and a amp Now by watching you guys saying these sucks man thanks for this video. I also seen Sundown 12" with box are they any good.
if you have that much I’d go with a custom box. Night & day difference, evl series actually impressed me for the $$. Vxf series is a pretty sql sub that I’ll definitely suggest over the evls if you would like to try out skar(: .
Man I wish I would found this vid before I got my evl now I know why it’s not hitting like I thought it would I was thinking I needed more power but now I know 🤙
Me watching this video after ordering the 10" EVL skar 2000 watt subwoofer 🤔
I'm running 3 12 inch evl dont be to worried, make up your mind after you bump it. Im running 4500 watts too two of them and dont ever even get a burning smell and they bump hard as fu*k thats the only thing I disagree with this guy with. Even with a smaller motor they still bump like crazyyy...
I run 2 evl 12’s and 2 rp2k amps one for each sub. I bet what Jerry is saying, but I e had zero issues with my evl’s and they rattle pictures off the walls in my house from my driveway.. maybe they’re not the best or even close to the best, but for what I have into my system.. it bangs hard as shit, and sets off car alarms… and no I’m not some skar nut swinger, just a budget basshead who likes his skars..
Good thing I don't know how to read bass...or this would just be one other thing that would depress me
I do a 159.3 on the glass with 4 skar zvx 15s
41 hz
Ok the guy at skar was part of the Sundown team. He didn't agree with the way Sundown was going so he branch off creating skar. If you notice the ddx and the vxf are replicas of Sundown sub. They are good subs but built qith some cheap parts which is why they arent as expensive as the Sundown. Now noticed years have passed and skar hasnt come up with anything new. Because he was the student. The teacher whos still with Sundown has come up with the nsv4/5 ,the new zvx6 and the new prototype w surround which is nothing like jbl or cerwin vega. I was running the sa15d4rev3 and loved them now im running the vxf 12s and love them. I personally dont like the evl but if it makes you happy then thags all that matters. Ppl need to respect other opinions regardless if you agree or disagree. Keep onbassin
What would you think of two vxf 15s in a ported box 6.12 cu ft tuned to 28 on a smart 3 or smart 5
Okay I understand where you coming from I bought the skar sdr 15 D4 to actually see what all the hype was about skar and I'm not impressed with them and I had them professionally installed and had my amp turned and one sub is making a weird noise
The problem is that you bought one of the lower tier skar gear. Ofc it’s not gonna be 150+ loud lol grab a vxf or even svr (one tier higher) & you’ll be impressed 🙂
@@UxGHyper I was thinking about getting the ddx 15 d4
@@charleswilliams3336 or that. Cheap but really good spl maker
@@UxGHyper what's a good budget subs do you suggest
@@charleswilliams3336 ddx 15 d4 (2) in a custom box & you can be slamming for very cheap tbh & they can take some power for being cheap so you can throw 3-5krms at them & they’ll take the abuse
I run 2 evl 12’s on a smart 3K and they please me.
Skar sucks they can’t handle the power they say they can without getting hot and stinky
I guess this is the truth I had to hear. I have EVL's. I guess i'll just use them until they die or I sell them. Thought about going with FI audio, Resilient Sounds, or Sundown.
Lol
I have skar door speakers and they are awesome and one sundown 15 on 3k
I hear what you saying and want to learn more but your making a bad argument. I think you are saying the American Bass xfl is better then a skar Ddx 12. But you started out saying there are better subs for the same or cheaper price. The xfl is twice the cost currently. I would expect it to be better. (Not a spl guy, just like lots of boom boom). Ps. Thanks for what you do for 12v world.
Strait FACTS!!!
I almost got skater glad I saved and got my ground zero
Run that American Bass XR12 in WinISD. 2 cu ft. Ported @ 32 Hz. Savage
I agree, skar is ironically so overpriced for something considered the low budget brand
So glad I run xfls
Do a video on DC audio jerry
Sdr are shit too, but I have ddx 15s now, and a mmats dreadnaut 15, on 4500 watt soundstream , in a el expedition , ddx I am impressed with but prefer my dreadnaut
I have 2 skar zvx 12's the worst sounding speakers i ever owned!!! i originally wanted the american bass HD series but they were out of stock so i went with the zvx :( heck id trade my 2 zvx's for 2 American bass XFL's and they are much cheaper! i feel like most car audio guys wouldnt know good sound quality if it bit them in the ass!! whenever they wanna argue i ask them about their home setups most these guys dont even have listening rooms in their homes! I paid more for the bryllium midranges and tweaters in my custom build home speakers than most ppl spend on their entire car audio systems!! i wont even mention what i paid for my McIntosh MC2152!!!