Same. I love my EVLs but that doesn’t mean they are the best. I’ve been beating them daily, in my truck loaded with tools all day on a Korean board Wolfram 7500. They never skip a beat. Again, with that said I understand the products I have and paid for is not the best and not the beefiest by any means.
I have a 18" Evl rn. Very impressed with what it can do for an single sub! I think it's a great starter sub imo. But heck no, it's not no Sundown NS v5 18. Nor is it a HUTCHINSON NDFEB2-18 (ect.) But I don't have the electrical for a big boi subwoofer. So this Skar, Evl at that, is doing me just fine for now Maybe one day I can upgrade! Looking forward to your new build Jerry!
I'm into street bump on the cheap, I got the IX 10s in the right box, sounded great for $45/ea. Now I'm running Deaf Bonce machete lites $75/ea. Penny pinching for life, lol. Love u jerry
I’ve ran a skar evl 12 for awhile, jerry you’re absolutely right on this I liked it at the time but looking back it’s not what it’s made out to be. I’ve ran four sundown SA 12’s, even two SA 12’s, I’ve had decent brand names.. even alpine type R series 12’s, to me it’s all a preference. I remember when people were being a fanboy over the Orion hcca subs and I’ve never been a fan of the brand myself.. nobody actually pays attention to what people are saying in these videos at all majority of people take pieces out of it and think it’s just a bashing video when it’s truly not. Everyone has an opinion and this is Jerry’s so the ones who bash him on here or TikTok y’all are just paying the man to cry in the comment section which is ridiculous lol. Keep on jerry im hoping one day to get a demo from you brother
Same here, i run vxf 12s now, had sa15d4rev3, rockford fosgate, all where good. It depends on what you want or looking for. Musical, space, budget. I ran kick comp cvr15s old ones lived all of them. Ppl need to grow up stop getting butt hurt over someone else's opinion. I don't like the evl but a buddy runs 4 of them and he loves it which i loved it because he was happy with it. Be happy with what you have and stop worrying about other's. The b2 are nasty the nsv5 are nasty like the fi neo4.0
You LITERALLY talked about the SPECS. That's what the people can not comprehend. ANY subwoofer will BANG. They have NO idea what the parameters even mean so they just take it as bashing. Its not opinion when its FACTS. The facts are specs wise they suck. But can be a descent budget sub for people who may not care about the technical data of the subwoofer.
I love the message. Run what you got be proud of it. I'll never understand those who hate on other people's setups. If you have knowledge share it be helpful not a hater.
My goal since starting car audio has always been a 150db. Started with power accoustik gothic subs and rockville amp. Now i have 2 15in vxf and a crescendo bc 6k. And still cant get that 150. Originally i did have 3 vxf 15s and blew 1. Im still workin on that 150 score.💪💪 thanks Mr. Jerry!!!
I Run Skar Audio And Plan To Upgrade/Stay With Skar Audio!!! lol lol I subscribed to your channel after seeing first video bashing the EVL sub lol!! Keep crushing the video content BASSHEAD brotha, nothing but respect! ✊🏽
I’ve been watching your vids now for about a month and I always learn something new from every video. I have Skar EVLs and I’m learning now about subwoofers so I definitely would of made another choice if I knew in advance. They play every day and I’ll play them until they blow. By the way, heard from a bird that you designed the enclosed for Travis H 96 xj that I now own. Hope to have it playing by the end of summer. Love all your vids, always looking for new vid drops too. Take care ✌️
From Asheville North Carolina here..... I completely agree with you Jerry. I have always ran what I could afford and what I could make the best out of what I had. Yes I've been embarrassed to show some of my systems off, but there was always 1 person that was impressed by it. Even if it were a stranger. Now I have people coming up asking to take videos of my builds. Lol. Keep up the good vibes Jerry
Great video! I've ran a few skar subs and I agree the VXF is the best line especially if you look at the TS parameters. I am running 2 VX 15's on a DD 6k at .5. Run what you can afford !
All facts man. The right attitude as well. I just don't like when people build wrong and spread info that's simply not the right way to build. I personally do the most bang for the buck builds. I chose the XFL over all that you mentioned and I'm positive I'm getting the bang for a better price.
Yooooo Jerry what upppp mane!?! You're my favorite latest new channel I've found. Been a Basshead since the mid 90's as well. The youngins don't have any idea what it was like being there and being part of car audio evolving into what it is today. The old days were way more expensive and way less low lows windy loud but it was the $hit back then showing off and showing up a fellow buddy and Basshead. I remember when I was the $hit for having a .5 farad cap lol 😆 🤣
just wanted to say YOU HAVE A GREAT PERSPECTIVE on car audio this is WY I watch your content I Ben at this a long time I know bs when I here it hasn't herd it yet from any of your videos thanks for all the tips and tricks Jerry I be on it PEN AND PAD!!!! ON IT
First things first... Bad ass intro brother! I was taken by surprise seeing it for the first time, thought wow, that took some creative insight. Second, who cares what brand you're running? If you're happy with it, good. If you're not, happy shopping. I personally have a Skar 12" sub and a RP1200.1D. It mystifies everyone who has had a demo. They keep looking around trying to find out where the rest of subs are hidden, lol. It has more to do with the build quality than anything else. I have a very large cabin in my 02' Mitsubishi Montero XLS and it's heavily coated with second skin dampener pro, not a vibration to be heard anywhere outside the vehicle. 3rd... Why do I run Skar? It was given to me for free😂,why else? Love your content and educated opinion, keep it up.
The motor force and what has been mentioned many times before as far as specifics and parameters, Jim you are knowledgeable.. experience with curtain brands and their products, it differs alot.. Everyone's ears differ!! Half deaf in left ear Soo..🤣😂
I bought 2 EVL 10" yesterday and one of them just blew up today and that's what gets me here... My amp is Andeman from Amazon and it cost me less than $60 and it blows my mind... I should say save your money to go with higher brands and your system will last forever
I have a single EVL 12 and i love it it flex’s my windshield and doors and what not but I do agree it isn’t very efficient with power I have it on a 1500 watt skar amp and it definitely seems like it could be louder it’s in a 2.75 cuft box tuned to 32 hrz but I have people trash me about skar all the time I know there’s better stuff and I like my stuff but like you said I’m happy with it and it’s enough for me I’m not trying for a trophy or anything by no means love the videos man absolutely agree with everything you say
I don't think almost 600.00 for (2) vxf 12's is budget. I have (2) Skar vvx 8's, and have (2) EVL 8's, AND have (2) sdr 12's, zero issues, love them all. I could care less what anyone thinks or says, I bought them.
@@JerryAintloud very musical sub if I had the space for 2 of them I would definitely trade my deaf bonce avatars for them skars anyday...atleast the 15s over the 12s
As someone who has built PA drivers, Subwoofers, did 1000's of recones, custom built subs and speakers and more over the years, Skar isn't a bad brand to use. Kevin really doesn't design or do much R&D for his subs and amps. The build house that builds the EVL subwoofers, will sell those to you unbadged, for about $35-40 per 12" with a MOQ(minimum order quantity) of about 40-50 pcs. When we were talking to that particular build house, they sent over the info on that subwoofer, and I immediately asked if it was the EVL, and after talking a bit on the overall design of it, and the specs and so forth, we automatically declined, a possible thought of bringing any over for testing. Its a sloppy subwoofer, all around. It doesn't even look good on paper. The motor design is OK, but uses lower grade ferrite, and is not properly charged, to its potential. It needs to have the coils ran in series, to get any good BL out of that motor. Granted, most all subs perform better in series, so you can maximize the BL, but..this sub just isn't even close to being efficient that way either. The subs do like to play a lower frequency above all else, and that's due to the heavier copper coil, and more moving mass it has. We also work with the build house, that builds their amplifiers, and they do not really design those either. But, remember this...almost everything is built in China, just rebadged, tweaked and so forth. Even B2 subs are built in China. It's all about the R&D that companies actually put into their products, and not just being another Me 2 product, with a different name. Skar is a decent company, with decent products for the most part. They're fairly affordable, and mainly because they keep their products and designs, left in the hands of the build houses, and that costs them less.
Yea you go jerry, anyone can have an opinion. I have two star 8s it no where near the best but it was my starters in my Lincoln towncar and I had a lil bit of money found a very cheap 12 sub in blaupunkt very cheap subs and I had a Hifinics amp in it for the 8s but I had to get bigger amp to give enough power mine is a very cheap build but I love it. One day I wanna get some g2 subs. So now 2 12 blaupunkt and 2 8 star
Thanks for being down to earth about this subject... especially the Facebook car audio nazis they are terrible and exactly why I don't join those groups.
I've ran everything from Rockford to skar and most brands in between. I personally favor Crossfire equipment these days. They've always been a solid brand with great prices.
I’m currently running (1) Sundown SDDN 18 on a Wolfram 7500.1 @.5. But I will tell you one of my favorite systems was (2) EVL 12 on a Cab 1600.1 @.5 did a 150.2 super cheap system sounded good and never got smelly, system is still in use to this days
Man when i got started back in the mid 90's,i could only buy second hand equipment. Honestly their was some systems that had the newest and greatest,but was still louder than them. New school has no idea how expensive just a 500 watt mono amp was,and before that it was 2 channel only,still way more expensive than today. Technology has come so far from 20 + yrs ago.
@@JerryAintloud I had a second hand punch 150 20 years ago and still paid 250 for it used ....but man did those old amps seem to make good power ....amazing how far it all has came
I run the VXF 15 D2 it took me a lot of saving to get it. I would run sundown if I could afford them Skar is just affordable I think is why so many have them. I wish I could afford other brands I would definitely run them for sure.
Skar VFX & Skar Zvx are just as good as any other type brand sub OUT THERE, but for a cheaper price. I have the Orion hcca 15s, and audiopipe bd4, and xfls. The skar vxf 15s get louder than all the 15s that I played with. The skar zvx 12s are like the loudest 12s you can get for the money. PERIOD !!! AND IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT WHAT YOU RUN, BUT ALSO HOW YOU RUN IT, AND HOW YOU TUNE IT... PEACE OUT ✌️
I have 2 zvx 12's on 2 sia 3500's and they do very well. It was my first build and I have to say pretty impressed with there performance. I'm about to upgrade to something better. But I have no complaints for the money not a bad sub.
If you are going for a high spl build I don’t know why you would go evl small motor big coil not going to be efficient. But it’s a good fit for a daily build, last forever sounds decent. Vxf definitely the best sounding skar sub hands down. Is there better, absolutely. Like obviously hahaha. I feel skar makes a decent product especially for the dollar they sell them for. I run 2x vxf 15s I like them and I overpower them. For $280 it’s a hell of a sub.
As someone that just returned to the hobby, I picked up a Skar VFX 15" and a Skar SKv2 1500.1. even went as far as to purchase the Skar prefab enclosure, $750 for pretty much a full setup minus wiring. I ran it a few weeks and felt like I wanted to continue on with the hobby further, my friend has been running the Skar setup I bought, and it sounds pretty badass for a prefab 15 in a Honda Ridgeline. Sounded good in my Jeep as well. Im fortunate enough to been able to upgrade to nicer stuff fairly quick. But that being said, if I weren't as fortunate as I am now, I would have been happy with the Skar until I was able to upgrade. Absolutely nothing wrong with them, and I've had Skar stuff before in the past, not much as changed between then and now, I still think Skar performs well within their price range. Hence why I grabbed them first to see if it were something I wanted to go further with, so I'm not out thousands of dollars then decide I just didn't like it anymore. And I've seen some pretty wicked Skar builds, like the one dude with 4 Skar ZFX 15's doin 153 @ 20 hz with a 6th order blowthrough. Hard to complain about that. Sure there are louder but that's damn loud for a budget sub!
I'm still learning and trying to get bigger and better and I think the most important part of a build is safe electrical. As long as you have good grounds and proper size wiring and fusing run what you can afford. Be safe and stay loud 👍🔊🔊
Like you said jerry if your happy with it and it makes you smile that’s all that matters. Me I have 2 SKAR evl 8”s and they make me happy. I was on a budget gotta make sure wife and kids are taken care of first.
Actually skar subs are more for ppl with kids who aren't able to bump everytime they get in the car and have to choose a good balance between taking car of kids and having alittle system that's decent and cheap go with skar. If you don't have to worry about kids and want to go nuts get the good stuff.
It all depends on your electric on how big and how many that's the key if you have big alternator and extra batteries with subs to be loud high dB watts per meter and box power to coil is key
So true I started builds with SKAR and they beat but it was the money factor ! 20 boxes later and a lot of skars blown I tried American bass and they did good! Running 2 sundown zv6 now and I love them but the only subs I ran that compared to sundown is resilient sounds I would be running them now for half the money u can’t beat them. But Amazon had the sundowns 25 % off and I had to jump on that 😂 but if u wanna good sub for half the cost the RS platinums are the way to go
I totally agree with you Jerry, I have the vxf and I think they're the best out of what skar has, are they as good as sundown absolutely not, but they are decent.
And my thing on Skar is it’s good ash for the price is there stuff louder yes but you can get to that point depending on what you buy and how you wire it 😂
I agree 💯💯💯 with your opinion on skar speakers,well the evl anyway...crap but I have to give them props on their amps.i have 2 rp 1500 on 4 L7 15 s and they get all they want all day with no prob. $160 budget amp can't beat em. Love the content
Literally just got my set of evl 12s with the bass package they offer going with this was more of a get started kind of deal for me 818 for the whole thing wasn’t bad (although I won’t be using the wiring kit that comes with it) I’ll use it and while I am go ahead and upgrade my electrical system in my Tahoe (it’s an 09 in case anyone has any recommendations for me with it) then once that’s done I’ll upgrade my amp and subs and give this system to my son as something to get his foot in the door.
Never ran Skar but let me ask you this if a person gave you a demo could you tell the brand of sub by the demo.Or if you hear a car coming up the road could you tell what subs they were running.
Looking at building a single 12 system for my son and trying desperately to find something competitive with the Skar EVL / 1500.1 setup. Your opinions deterred me from the Skar subwoofers but now trying to find an alternative sub and enclosure is seeming tough...
Replaced a massive gtx122 with an evl 12, while the evl gets way louder it took about 30% more power to get as loud as the gtx. Have it on a smart 3 and it does very well. But if I had to do it again knowing what I know now I would get something different, for now I'm happy but will probably be upgraded in the future.
I'm running 10 evl 10s in a no wall with 2 12ks an its taking it like a champ... I'm satisfied.. I'm floating hair just like people running sundown dc audio etc
I like people running something different than me, I want to be unique in a sense. And I want to see others' unique build too. Who wants to live in a world where everyone has the same setup brand and build lmao that's no fun! I watch a channel called MyStonerMind who uploads "your bass vids"; starting out he didn't have a lot of submissions so you'd often see in his videos, vlips of people with little junky speakers 8" and below with no names and trying silly stuff; but I'm always happy to see what someone has built to put it in or whatever situation they can find useful for the things
I have had a good experience with my evl18s...I will add one more thing about them...I rebuilt a field destroy, and the new cone was deeper and went with a carbon fiber dust cap...EVLs sound good to be original...But my rebuild sounds even better...gets lower and sounds cleaner doing it...maybe its a deeper cone moves more air? Or maybe lighter dust cap..No idea, but i was impressed with my rebuild
I have two sundown audio 8s and they really have handled everything I threw at them. I actually have had amps that burned up on me, that is how good they are. I will say I agree with how good some subs are compared to others.
Hay brother! First off let me say i love your videos and wisdom. Second could you share some of that wisdom with me please? i am going to get a system for my nissan quest van. it is a very big long van with lots of space inside , 3 rows of seats that lay flat! i want to stay as cheap as possible but still have a crisp hard hitting sound from my subs. i want to go with a Skar rp-2000.1 amp and run 2 Skar 12 inch subs. but what 12 inch subs would work best for me with that amp? i can build any size box, i have plenty of room. was thinking about going with the ddx subs or the vxf subs but im not sure if that amp would would have enough power for those subs as i want it to hit hard!. what would you suggest for me? or any other cheap amp or subs around 2000wats can you suggest that might work better and still be as cheap as skar. im on a tight budget! and dont want to screw this up. By the time i buy the DSP and mids and tweeters and wiring and blocks & another battery and a smaller amp for that im already going to have a lot in this so i need to stay under 600 for the amp and subs. Thanks brother for any advice you can share with me. have a great day .
Im running a set of zvx15v2 D2 subs wired down to half ohm "0.4" reading on my fluke and a planet audio tr4000.1d amp. I have a taramps bass 8k that I am in process of wiring up and is half mounted in my ride and am about to see what these skars can take and possibly find what they cant. I think they are okay subs though and honestly may try some db subs if these dont give me more broken jeep parts.
I own Skar. It's OK. Not great. But I can say, they have the worst customer service ever!!!! They will never get a dollar from me again. SUNDOWN FTW!!!
I’ve had my EVL’s for over a year now and sometimes people give me crap because it’s “skar” it’s all about the branding and the price, but In reality, neither of those actually matter. I’ve been happy and stayed happy with them but ofc, who DONT want to get louder?!!
I quit running skar due to the fan base..American bass has always been my favorite subwoofers, but its the price of the AB that kills me..I really wanted to get the new godzilla 18" but 1000 its just to much for me...I bought a trinity audio TAS-M18 that will come in the mail this tuesday...I hope i made a good choice..AB comp is a 500 oz motor..The trinity is a 650 oz motor..Plus the trinity is 560.00 thats a expensive sub for me but its obtainable.
When i think of horrible subs i think PLYE, LANSER, PYRAMID lol..My standards are not as high as most i guess lol..Ive had power acoustic subs i was very happy with same for there amps..IDK as long as i can beat the crap out of it for a good period of time it is good in my book..But my standards are lower than most i guess lol..
I was thinking about getting EVL's until I watched your other video. As much research I did and learned about TS parameters I had no idea about that motor force calculation. Everything I could find just said BL was motor force, not squared and divided by resistance. Went with 2 XFL 12's and couldn't be happier. When calculating motor force, is the RE parameter the resistance of 1 voice coil, both voice coils added together, or the resistance you're going to wire it at? For example if it's dual 4 ohm coils do you divide by 4, 8, or if wiring in parallel do I divide by 2? Thanks keep up the great content!
Bro I have a evl 12 and it hits pretty good in a custom box it's on the rp2000.1 and honestly I've never had so many issues with a subwoofer in my life I've had it replaced through skar 3 times and the dust cap came off of the newest one and I just honestly don't even feel like sending it back again I'm tired of messing with it and I upgraded to a single vxf 15 I just got my box built haven't put it in yet but build quality is far superior over the evl thanks for this video cause it's accurate as hell man I wish I would've seen this 2 years ago lol I would've just went vxf to begin with
Evl looks nice it can sound decent in a good box but it's not worth spending your money cause you are basically wasting every dollar on it and my system has good electrical and was tuned by a professional it just sucks man I love the videos man love your build too
My zvx 12 is a beast, the sq is far from as good as my old rockfords, but it hits hard and what I wanted on my budget. Wanting a second one. I am no skar fanboy, I am no fan boy of any brand, I just love to bump!
I'm just curious on your opinion why does no one run memphis? Just curious when I was younger and couldn't afford anything other than candy that was all the hype where I'm from but I tried looking the up and there is not many videos on them.
I have the evl and the skar 4500.1 class d amp and love them so far. It dont make me mad if you diss skar. We all have our brands we like and dislike. So far skar is beating out kicker and thats what I used to like. The day I want to invest like 10 grand I will upgrade to what yall pros are bumping.
Here is my problem with the previous video. What is better for $292 2 12s sent to my door then the loaded sdr. I will go buy it and test it. I love how an average person can get that setup that 15 years ago would have been nuts. I kinda agree with EVL's. They are okay but I think there are much better for the money.
Serious question ⁉️ I got 2 sundown sa15's in a 4th order blow through on a taramps md3k @1ohm clamping 1300 watts rms so I was wondering if I could maybe put a bass 5k if they would handle it my box is 20'sq and my sealed is 5'1" port is 14'9" I'm getting 146.0 @37hz I think with a 5k I can do 150's
I run skar. I like it 😂 but I also am going for 2 sundown 12’s in the near future skar is good but I’m pretty sure the sundown build I want is going to be louder and sound a lot cleaner 💪
I agree with you, I have Skar subs I like em but I know there not the best. I have a question you say the DDX is a good sub but it's a max of 1500 but the SVR is a max of 1600 at 800 RMS is the SVR a better sub then a DDX considering the SVR has a bigger throw or I would say con stretch??
I have a DDX 15 on the rp1500 and it takes all of the power no problem all day long...I've had the SDR 12 and 15 and they both blew on the rp800 probably bc I didn't break them in properly but I never really broke in the DDX either and it has always taken the power...but I can't tell u about the SVR, I've never had it but the ddx motor is quite a bit bigger
@@trickedoutequinox3265 I Still have my SVRs but I replaced them with the DDXs looking at both subs the motor is much bigger on the DDX and a better designed sub but what confuses me is why is the DDX RMS a 1000 but only a max of 1500 when in most cases subs are usually double rated there RMS, it should be 2000 max?
@Mello 1 LOL yeah I always wondered that also...From what I heard the DDX series was designed by Jacob from Sundown Audio...that's another reason so many people compared the DDX to Sundown SA series bc they are almost identical
To me quality matter and customer service matters but a sub is a sub they all have the same parts they haven't changed the design since the beginning. Js
I got the evl prefab as my first sub i agree with the weak motor opinion and basket it should be taller the sub is all throat ig u could say im fixin to upgrade but the sub can take a hell of a beating and will flex shit but could be beefier
I’m running two sundown ev. 10s the cheapest lowest RMS they make. With the JP23. Crescendo 6.5s and 6x9s for mids and high’s, crescendo tweeters. Custom birch boxes, plenty of power for the amps. Everyone thinks I have 12s and more power. I didn’t know much about the different brands, and didn’t care. For my budget and what I have I’m very happy. As for the hater’s, you can hate all you want but if you’re not louder than the person you’re hating on? Then shut up. Like Jerry said if you’re happy it doesn’t matter what people say or think.
Hey man I bought a ds18 4 channel about 8 months ago and had hooked it up and it wasnt even as loud as my head unit, with that being said I had hooked up my previous amp(vr apx400) the exact same way and it was loud again. What I'm asking is what's your experience with their 4 channels, did I get a dud? Or is their bread and butter monoblock amps? Just would like to hear so honest feedback from a well seasoned owner of ds18; aka ds18longbeard 😂 thanks for the input man.
I have the EVL's. I was not offended in this video or the last one. I took it as criticism from a person with experience.
Same. I love my EVLs but that doesn’t mean they are the best. I’ve been beating them daily, in my truck loaded with tools all day on a Korean board Wolfram 7500. They never skip a beat. Again, with that said I understand the products I have and paid for is not the best and not the beefiest by any means.
How would u say they compare to the DDXs? I have the ddx and wonder if the EVLs would even make a difference
@@trickedoutequinox3265 I've never heard DDXs. But my EVLs 12s have been beating for over a year. and I'm not nice to them.
@@trickedoutequinox3265 did you watch the video man? If you're getting skar get the vxf they slam get low and are clean.
@@GTILOUD what do you think about the zvx 18
I have a 18" Evl rn. Very impressed with what it can do for an single sub! I think it's a great starter sub imo. But heck no, it's not no Sundown NS v5 18. Nor is it a HUTCHINSON NDFEB2-18 (ect.) But I don't have the electrical for a big boi subwoofer. So this Skar, Evl at that, is doing me just fine for now
Maybe one day I can upgrade!
Looking forward to your new build Jerry!
I'm into street bump on the cheap, I got the IX 10s in the right box, sounded great for $45/ea. Now I'm running Deaf Bonce machete lites $75/ea. Penny pinching for life, lol. Love u jerry
I’ve ran a skar evl 12 for awhile, jerry you’re absolutely right on this I liked it at the time but looking back it’s not what it’s made out to be. I’ve ran four sundown SA 12’s, even two SA 12’s, I’ve had decent brand names.. even alpine type R series 12’s, to me it’s all a preference. I remember when people were being a fanboy over the Orion hcca subs and I’ve never been a fan of the brand myself.. nobody actually pays attention to what people are saying in these videos at all majority of people take pieces out of it and think it’s just a bashing video when it’s truly not. Everyone has an opinion and this is Jerry’s so the ones who bash him on here or TikTok y’all are just paying the man to cry in the comment section which is ridiculous lol. Keep on jerry im hoping one day to get a demo from you brother
Same here, i run vxf 12s now, had sa15d4rev3, rockford fosgate, all where good. It depends on what you want or looking for. Musical, space, budget. I ran kick comp cvr15s old ones lived all of them. Ppl need to grow up stop getting butt hurt over someone else's opinion. I don't like the evl but a buddy runs 4 of them and he loves it which i loved it because he was happy with it. Be happy with what you have and stop worrying about other's. The b2 are nasty the nsv5 are nasty like the fi neo4.0
You LITERALLY talked about the SPECS. That's what the people can not comprehend. ANY subwoofer will BANG. They have NO idea what the parameters even mean so they just take it as bashing. Its not opinion when its FACTS. The facts are specs wise they suck. But can be a descent budget sub for people who may not care about the technical data of the subwoofer.
the specs was my whole point and they hate it.
I love the message. Run what you got be proud of it. I'll never understand those who hate on other people's setups. If you have knowledge share it be helpful not a hater.
My goal since starting car audio has always been a 150db. Started with power accoustik gothic subs and rockville amp. Now i have 2 15in vxf and a crescendo bc 6k. And still cant get that 150. Originally i did have 3 vxf 15s and blew 1. Im still workin on that 150 score.💪💪 thanks Mr. Jerry!!!
I Run Skar Audio And Plan To Upgrade/Stay With Skar Audio!!! lol lol I subscribed to your channel after seeing first video bashing the EVL sub lol!! Keep crushing the video content BASSHEAD brotha, nothing but respect! ✊🏽
I’ve been watching your vids now for about a month and I always learn something new from every video. I have Skar EVLs and I’m learning now about subwoofers so I definitely would of made another choice if I knew in advance. They play every day and I’ll play them until they blow.
By the way, heard from a bird that you designed the enclosed for Travis H 96 xj that I now own. Hope to have it playing by the end of summer. Love all your vids, always looking for new vid drops too. Take care ✌️
the Travis in Cali.. yes I did
@@JerryAintloud that’s him!
I do what i want and dont care if others like it i make me happy not others....love the vids
Happy for you 💪
From Asheville North Carolina here..... I completely agree with you Jerry. I have always ran what I could afford and what I could make the best out of what I had. Yes I've been embarrassed to show some of my systems off, but there was always 1 person that was impressed by it. Even if it were a stranger. Now I have people coming up asking to take videos of my builds. Lol. Keep up the good vibes Jerry
Great video! I've ran a few skar subs and I agree the VXF is the best line especially if you look at the TS parameters. I am running 2 VX 15's on a DD 6k at .5. Run what you can afford !
I probably run the cheapest skar subwoofers and I like them plus I don't have half the power you guys run so I'm good. Great video as always Jerry.
All facts man. The right attitude as well. I just don't like when people build wrong and spread info that's simply not the right way to build. I personally do the most bang for the buck builds. I chose the XFL over all that you mentioned and I'm positive I'm getting the bang for a better price.
I understand you
I like the honesty!!!
I feel like the EVLs are so popular because it's the biggest sub skar sells with a prefab box package
That's exactly why they are so popular.
Truth is people need to hear this again Big Man !
Yooooo Jerry what upppp mane!?! You're my favorite latest new channel I've found. Been a Basshead since the mid 90's as well. The youngins don't have any idea what it was like being there and being part of car audio evolving into what it is today. The old days were way more expensive and way less low lows windy loud but it was the $hit back then showing off and showing up a fellow buddy and Basshead. I remember when I was the $hit for having a .5 farad cap lol 😆 🤣
just wanted to say YOU HAVE A GREAT PERSPECTIVE on car audio this is WY I watch your content I Ben at this a long time I know bs when I here it hasn't herd it yet from any of your videos thanks for all the tips and tricks Jerry I be on it PEN AND PAD!!!! ON IT
First things first... Bad ass intro brother! I was taken by surprise seeing it for the first time, thought wow, that took some creative insight. Second, who cares what brand you're running? If you're happy with it, good. If you're not, happy shopping. I personally have a Skar 12" sub and a RP1200.1D. It mystifies everyone who has had a demo. They keep looking around trying to find out where the rest of subs are hidden, lol. It has more to do with the build quality than anything else. I have a very large cabin in my 02' Mitsubishi Montero XLS and it's heavily coated with second skin dampener pro, not a vibration to be heard anywhere outside the vehicle. 3rd... Why do I run Skar? It was given to me for free😂,why else? Love your content and educated opinion, keep it up.
The motor force and what has been mentioned many times before as far as specifics and parameters, Jim you are knowledgeable.. experience with curtain brands and their products, it differs alot..
Everyone's ears differ!! Half deaf in left ear Soo..🤣😂
I bought 2 EVL 10" yesterday and one of them just blew up today and that's what gets me here... My amp is Andeman from Amazon and it cost me less than $60 and it blows my mind... I should say save your money to go with higher brands and your system will last forever
I have a single EVL 12 and i love it it flex’s my windshield and doors and what not but I do agree it isn’t very efficient with power I have it on a 1500 watt skar amp and it definitely seems like it could be louder it’s in a 2.75 cuft box tuned to 32 hrz but I have people trash me about skar all the time I know there’s better stuff and I like my stuff but like you said I’m happy with it and it’s enough for me I’m not trying for a trophy or anything by no means love the videos man absolutely agree with everything you say
Facts 🤝 far to many bullies in this audio game.
I don't think almost 600.00 for (2) vxf 12's is budget. I have (2) Skar vvx 8's, and have (2) EVL 8's, AND have (2) sdr 12's, zero issues, love them all. I could care less what anyone thinks or says, I bought them.
believe me they are actually budget. that under $300 each. my wifes synergy 15 were over $800 each with shipping.
@@JerryAintloud snobby bassheads, lol
I had one of the windiest single skar sub builds to date, was a single vxf 15 on 5k playing 14hz full tilt
i do like the VXF
@@JerryAintloud very musical sub if I had the space for 2 of them I would definitely trade my deaf bonce avatars for them skars anyday...atleast the 15s over the 12s
I agree. As long as you like what you have, it shouldn’t matter what anyone else thinks. You do it for yourself, not others.
As someone who has built PA drivers, Subwoofers, did 1000's of recones, custom built subs and speakers and more over the years, Skar isn't a bad brand to use. Kevin really doesn't design or do much R&D for his subs and amps. The build house that builds the EVL subwoofers, will sell those to you unbadged, for about $35-40 per 12" with a MOQ(minimum order quantity) of about 40-50 pcs. When we were talking to that particular build house, they sent over the info on that subwoofer, and I immediately asked if it was the EVL, and after talking a bit on the overall design of it, and the specs and so forth, we automatically declined, a possible thought of bringing any over for testing. Its a sloppy subwoofer, all around. It doesn't even look good on paper. The motor design is OK, but uses lower grade ferrite, and is not properly charged, to its potential. It needs to have the coils ran in series, to get any good BL out of that motor. Granted, most all subs perform better in series, so you can maximize the BL, but..this sub just isn't even close to being efficient that way either. The subs do like to play a lower frequency above all else, and that's due to the heavier copper coil, and more moving mass it has. We also work with the build house, that builds their amplifiers, and they do not really design those either. But, remember this...almost everything is built in China, just rebadged, tweaked and so forth. Even B2 subs are built in China. It's all about the R&D that companies actually put into their products, and not just being another Me 2 product, with a different name. Skar is a decent company, with decent products for the most part. They're fairly affordable, and mainly because they keep their products and designs, left in the hands of the build houses, and that costs them less.
Yea you go jerry, anyone can have an opinion. I have two star 8s it no where near the best but it was my starters in my Lincoln towncar and I had a lil bit of money found a very cheap 12 sub in blaupunkt very cheap subs and I had a Hifinics amp in it for the 8s but I had to get bigger amp to give enough power mine is a very cheap build but I love it. One day I wanna get some g2 subs. So now 2 12 blaupunkt and 2 8 star
Was wondering when your video was gonna drop after seeing the post. I agree master DS18 long beard is a pretty cool name
Thanks for being down to earth about this subject... especially the Facebook car audio nazis they are terrible and exactly why I don't join those groups.
I've ran everything from Rockford to skar and most brands in between. I personally favor Crossfire equipment these days. They've always been a solid brand with great prices.
I’m currently running (1) Sundown SDDN 18 on a Wolfram 7500.1 @.5. But I will tell you one of my favorite systems was (2) EVL 12 on a Cab 1600.1 @.5 did a 150.2 super cheap system sounded good and never got smelly, system is still in use to this days
Man when i got started back in the mid 90's,i could only buy second hand equipment. Honestly their was some systems that had the newest and greatest,but was still louder than them. New school has no idea how expensive just a 500 watt mono amp was,and before that it was 2 channel only,still way more expensive than today. Technology has come so far from 20 + yrs ago.
20 years ago a real 200 watt amp was over 500 bucks
@@JerryAintloud I had a second hand punch 150 20 years ago and still paid 250 for it used ....but man did those old amps seem to make good power ....amazing how far it all has came
Haters will always hate. Love what you love. Ppl need to respect others opinions. Like you said be happy if the stuff you have makes you happy
80% of any system is still enclosure... You are correct about the Fan Boys 👦 Ego should be put aside 👍😎
I run the VXF 15 D2 it took me a lot of saving to get it. I would run sundown if I could afford them Skar is just affordable I think is why so many have them. I wish I could afford other brands I would definitely run them for sure.
MasterDS18 long beard 😂😂😂😂
Skar VFX & Skar Zvx are just as good as any other type brand sub OUT THERE, but for a cheaper price. I have the Orion hcca 15s, and audiopipe bd4, and xfls. The skar vxf 15s get louder than all the 15s that I played with. The skar zvx 12s are like the loudest 12s you can get for the money. PERIOD !!! AND IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT WHAT YOU RUN, BUT ALSO HOW YOU RUN IT, AND HOW YOU TUNE IT...
PEACE OUT ✌️
Can you do a video on how to read ts parameters
I have 2 zvx 12's on 2 sia 3500's and they do very well. It was my first build and I have to say pretty impressed with there performance. I'm about to upgrade to something better. But I have no complaints for the money not a bad sub.
If you are going for a high spl build I don’t know why you would go evl small motor big coil not going to be efficient. But it’s a good fit for a daily build, last forever sounds decent. Vxf definitely the best sounding skar sub hands down. Is there better, absolutely. Like obviously hahaha. I feel skar makes a decent product especially for the dollar they sell them for. I run 2x vxf 15s I like them and I overpower them. For $280 it’s a hell of a sub.
Idk why people hated on that video lmaooo people just get butthurt over anything tho now a days
@@colemclane650whats the difference between vxf vs zvx?
As someone that just returned to the hobby, I picked up a Skar VFX 15" and a Skar SKv2 1500.1. even went as far as to purchase the Skar prefab enclosure, $750 for pretty much a full setup minus wiring. I ran it a few weeks and felt like I wanted to continue on with the hobby further, my friend has been running the Skar setup I bought, and it sounds pretty badass for a prefab 15 in a Honda Ridgeline. Sounded good in my Jeep as well. Im fortunate enough to been able to upgrade to nicer stuff fairly quick. But that being said, if I weren't as fortunate as I am now, I would have been happy with the Skar until I was able to upgrade. Absolutely nothing wrong with them, and I've had Skar stuff before in the past, not much as changed between then and now, I still think Skar performs well within their price range. Hence why I grabbed them first to see if it were something I wanted to go further with, so I'm not out thousands of dollars then decide I just didn't like it anymore. And I've seen some pretty wicked Skar builds, like the one dude with 4 Skar ZFX 15's doin 153 @ 20 hz with a 6th order blowthrough. Hard to complain about that. Sure there are louder but that's damn loud for a budget sub!
I'm still learning and trying to get bigger and better and I think the most important part of a build is safe electrical. As long as you have good grounds and proper size wiring and fusing run what you can afford. Be safe and stay loud 👍🔊🔊
Like you said jerry if your happy with it and it makes you smile that’s all that matters. Me I have 2 SKAR evl 8”s and they make me happy. I was on a budget gotta make sure wife and kids are taken care of first.
Gees part 2🤣. I thought part one was enough
Actually skar subs are more for ppl with kids who aren't able to bump everytime they get in the car and have to choose a good balance between taking car of kids and having alittle system that's decent and cheap go with skar. If you don't have to worry about kids and want to go nuts get the good stuff.
I have 2 EVL 18's for the simple factor of price. I actually like the sdr 18's low budget low power but damn they did sound good.
Those DDX 15s get loud them Sundown clones are very efficient
Yup I agree as I have one myself
We're all in it for the bass. Because we love bass. It don't matter what you can get to bump and make you smile so..
Not getting ripped off makes people smile more
It all depends on your electric on how big and how many that's the key if you have big alternator and extra batteries with subs to be loud high dB watts per meter and box power to coil is key
Love the new movie start up
So true I started builds with SKAR and they beat but it was the money factor ! 20 boxes later and a lot of skars blown I tried American bass and they did good! Running 2 sundown zv6 now and I love them but the only subs I ran that compared to sundown is resilient sounds I would be running them now for half the money u can’t beat them. But Amazon had the sundowns 25 % off and I had to jump on that 😂 but if u wanna good sub for half the cost the RS platinums are the way to go
I totally agree with you Jerry, I have the vxf and I think they're the best out of what skar has, are they as good as sundown absolutely not, but they are decent.
I ran and EVL and sa12 in the same box same amp same car, and the difference was INSANE. SQ wise, no comparison either
And my thing on Skar is it’s good ash for the price is there stuff louder yes but you can get to that point depending on what you buy and how you wire it 😂
Same.. I refuse to run sundown simply because of its community..
I agree 💯💯💯 with your opinion on skar speakers,well the evl anyway...crap but I have to give them props on their amps.i have 2 rp 1500 on 4 L7 15 s and they get all they want all day with no prob. $160 budget amp can't beat em. Love the content
The VFX are skars best subs without question
Preach brother to many people get butt hurt nowadays! Bassin is bassin!!!
anyone that even dislikes you,,,, has issues... you are a damn teddy bear !! i cant wait to meet you , your friend, jerry
Literally just got my set of evl 12s with the bass package they offer going with this was more of a get started kind of deal for me 818 for the whole thing wasn’t bad (although I won’t be using the wiring kit that comes with it) I’ll use it and while I am go ahead and upgrade my electrical system in my Tahoe (it’s an 09 in case anyone has any recommendations for me with it) then once that’s done I’ll upgrade my amp and subs and give this system to my son as something to get his foot in the door.
American Bass is the way to go!! Affordable and it handles power with great quality sound like a champion
Can you do a video on American Bass XFL?? Do you like American Bass?
Never ran Skar but let me ask you this if a person gave you a demo could you tell the brand of sub by the demo.Or if you hear a car coming up the road could you tell what subs they were running.
you couldn't... but I try to get as loud as possible the easiest and cheapest way
Looking at building a single 12 system for my son and trying desperately to find something competitive with the Skar EVL / 1500.1 setup. Your opinions deterred me from the Skar subwoofers but now trying to find an alternative sub and enclosure is seeming tough...
Replaced a massive gtx122 with an evl 12, while the evl gets way louder it took about 30% more power to get as loud as the gtx. Have it on a smart 3 and it does very well. But if I had to do it again knowing what I know now I would get something different, for now I'm happy but will probably be upgraded in the future.
I'm running 10 evl 10s in a no wall with 2 12ks an its taking it like a champ... I'm satisfied.. I'm floating hair just like people running sundown dc audio etc
I like people running something different than me, I want to be unique in a sense. And I want to see others' unique build too.
Who wants to live in a world where everyone has the same setup brand and build lmao that's no fun!
I watch a channel called MyStonerMind who uploads "your bass vids"; starting out he didn't have a lot of submissions so you'd often see in his videos, vlips of people with little junky speakers 8" and below with no names and trying silly stuff; but I'm always happy to see what someone has built to put it in or whatever situation they can find useful for the things
How the hell you don't have 100k subs? You tell it like it is. Keep'em coming.
I think, better yet the greatness of the subs depends on the users’ usage. They not as loud but SQ they work
I have had a good experience with my evl18s...I will add one more thing about them...I rebuilt a field destroy, and the new cone was deeper and went with a carbon fiber dust cap...EVLs sound good to be original...But my rebuild sounds even better...gets lower and sounds cleaner doing it...maybe its a deeper cone moves more air? Or maybe lighter dust cap..No idea, but i was impressed with my rebuild
I have two sundown audio 8s and they really have handled everything I threw at them. I actually have had amps that burned up on me, that is how good they are. I will say I agree with how good some subs are compared to others.
Hay brother! First off let me say i love your videos and wisdom. Second could you share some of that wisdom with me please? i am going to get a system for my nissan quest van. it is a very big long van with lots of space inside , 3 rows of seats that lay flat! i want to stay as cheap as possible but still have a crisp hard hitting sound from my subs. i want to go with a Skar rp-2000.1 amp and run 2 Skar 12 inch subs. but what 12 inch subs would work best for me with that amp? i can build any size box, i have plenty of room. was thinking about going with the ddx subs or the vxf subs but im not sure if that amp would would have enough power for those subs as i want it to hit hard!. what would you suggest for me? or any other cheap amp or subs around 2000wats can you suggest that might work better and still be as cheap as skar. im on a tight budget! and dont want to screw this up. By the time i buy the DSP and mids and tweeters and wiring and blocks & another battery and a smaller amp for that im already going to have a lot in this so i need to stay under 600 for the amp and subs. Thanks brother for any advice you can share with me. have a great day .
Im running a set of zvx15v2 D2 subs wired down to half ohm "0.4" reading on my fluke and a planet audio tr4000.1d amp. I have a taramps bass 8k that I am in process of wiring up and is half mounted in my ride and am about to see what these skars can take and possibly find what they cant. I think they are okay subs though and honestly may try some db subs if these dont give me more broken jeep parts.
I own Skar. It's OK. Not great. But I can say, they have the worst customer service ever!!!! They will never get a dollar from me again. SUNDOWN FTW!!!
They were alright with me but man I just can’t with them sometime, I like Soundqubed they never let me down.
I love both
@@bassheadlife492 bass is bass I like them all, if it bumps let me get a demo.
How's about those orion hcca 152spl some bad ass subwoofers
There's a saying, "You get what you pay for. Nothing is more true. 💯
I’ve had my EVL’s for over a year now and sometimes people give me crap because it’s “skar” it’s all about the branding and the price, but In reality, neither of those actually matter. I’ve been happy and stayed happy with them but ofc, who DONT want to get louder?!!
I quit running skar due to the fan base..American bass has always been my favorite subwoofers, but its the price of the AB that kills me..I really wanted to get the new godzilla 18" but 1000 its just to much for me...I bought a trinity audio TAS-M18 that will come in the mail this tuesday...I hope i made a good choice..AB comp is a 500 oz motor..The trinity is a 650 oz motor..Plus the trinity is 560.00 thats a expensive sub for me but its obtainable.
When i think of horrible subs i think PLYE, LANSER, PYRAMID lol..My standards are not as high as most i guess lol..Ive had power acoustic subs i was very happy with same for there amps..IDK as long as i can beat the crap out of it for a good period of time it is good in my book..But my standards are lower than most i guess lol..
I was thinking about getting EVL's until I watched your other video. As much research I did and learned about TS parameters I had no idea about that motor force calculation. Everything I could find just said BL was motor force, not squared and divided by resistance. Went with 2 XFL 12's and couldn't be happier.
When calculating motor force, is the RE parameter the resistance of 1 voice coil, both voice coils added together, or the resistance you're going to wire it at? For example if it's dual 4 ohm coils do you divide by 4, 8, or if wiring in parallel do I divide by 2?
Thanks keep up the great content!
Smart 12k!!!!
Bro I have a evl 12 and it hits pretty good in a custom box it's on the rp2000.1 and honestly I've never had so many issues with a subwoofer in my life I've had it replaced through skar 3 times and the dust cap came off of the newest one and I just honestly don't even feel like sending it back again I'm tired of messing with it and I upgraded to a single vxf 15 I just got my box built haven't put it in yet but build quality is far superior over the evl thanks for this video cause it's accurate as hell man I wish I would've seen this 2 years ago lol I would've just went vxf to begin with
Evl looks nice it can sound decent in a good box but it's not worth spending your money cause you are basically wasting every dollar on it and my system has good electrical and was tuned by a professional it just sucks man
I love the videos man love your build too
My zvx 12 is a beast, the sq is far from as good as my old rockfords, but it hits hard and what I wanted on my budget. Wanting a second one. I am no skar fanboy, I am no fan boy of any brand, I just love to bump!
Bass is bass to me I just have a different taste in bass. I'm like you I'm excited for anyone that's excited for their system.
I'm just curious on your opinion why does no one run memphis? Just curious when I was younger and couldn't afford anything other than candy that was all the hype where I'm from but I tried looking the up and there is not many videos on them.
I have the evl and the skar 4500.1 class d amp and love them so far. It dont make me mad if you diss skar. We all have our brands we like and dislike. So far skar is beating out kicker and thats what I used to like. The day I want to invest like 10 grand I will upgrade to what yall pros are bumping.
Exactly. Im sure his subs cost over $1000 each and hes throwing off on $150 dollar subs.
Here is my problem with the previous video. What is better for $292 2 12s sent to my door then the loaded sdr. I will go buy it and test it. I love how an average person can get that setup that 15 years ago would have been nuts. I kinda agree with EVL's. They are okay but I think there are much better for the money.
Serious question ⁉️ I got 2 sundown sa15's in a 4th order blow through on a taramps md3k @1ohm clamping 1300 watts rms so I was wondering if I could maybe put a bass 5k if they would handle it my box is 20'sq and my sealed is 5'1" port is 14'9" I'm getting 146.0 @37hz I think with a 5k I can do 150's
I run a single 12" built by robot underground with Justin a JP8 amp and love it lol
I also will never buy scar or sundown. With the right application there's plenty out there that performs
Thanks for that video run what u can afford is the best way
I run skar. I like it 😂 but I also am going for 2 sundown 12’s in the near future skar is good but I’m pretty sure the sundown build I want is going to be louder and sound a lot cleaner 💪
I agree with you, I have Skar subs I like em but I know there not the best.
I have a question you say the DDX is a good sub but it's a max of 1500 but the SVR is a max of 1600 at 800 RMS is the SVR a better sub then a DDX considering the SVR has a bigger throw or I would say con stretch??
I have a DDX 15 on the rp1500 and it takes all of the power no problem all day long...I've had the SDR 12 and 15 and they both blew on the rp800 probably bc I didn't break them in properly but I never really broke in the DDX either and it has always taken the power...but I can't tell u about the SVR, I've never had it but the ddx motor is quite a bit bigger
@@trickedoutequinox3265 I Still have my SVRs but I replaced them with the DDXs looking at both subs the motor is much bigger on the DDX and a better designed sub but what confuses me is why is the DDX RMS a 1000 but only a max of 1500 when in most cases subs are usually double rated there RMS, it should be 2000 max?
@Mello 1 LOL yeah I always wondered that also...From what I heard the DDX series was designed by Jacob from Sundown Audio...that's another reason so many people compared the DDX to Sundown SA series bc they are almost identical
I don’t like the SKAR owner, I don’t care how good or bad his subs are, that’s MONEY
To me quality matter and customer service matters but a sub is a sub they all have the same parts they haven't changed the design since the beginning. Js
4 zvx 15s pulling a 59.3 on the glass at 41 hz
I got the evl prefab as my first sub i agree with the weak motor opinion and basket it should be taller the sub is all throat ig u could say im fixin to upgrade but the sub can take a hell of a beating and will flex shit but could be beefier
I wish my system still worked. My 8k amp shorted out and burnt my 2 18 subs as well. Now I'm using 1 18" Skar SDR.
I’m running two sundown ev. 10s the cheapest lowest RMS they make. With the JP23. Crescendo 6.5s and 6x9s for mids and high’s, crescendo tweeters. Custom birch boxes, plenty of power for the amps. Everyone thinks I have 12s and more power. I didn’t know much about the different brands, and didn’t care. For my budget and what I have I’m very happy. As for the hater’s, you can hate all you want but if you’re not louder than the person you’re hating on? Then shut up. Like Jerry said if you’re happy it doesn’t matter what people say or think.
Hey man I bought a ds18 4 channel about 8 months ago and had hooked it up and it wasnt even as loud as my head unit, with that being said I had hooked up my previous amp(vr apx400) the exact same way and it was loud again. What I'm asking is what's your experience with their 4 channels, did I get a dud? Or is their bread and butter monoblock amps? Just would like to hear so honest feedback from a well seasoned owner of ds18; aka ds18longbeard 😂 thanks for the input man.