edit: hiii i'm sorry that i cant say hydwoquacksaquenton i tried really hard but i just decided to wing it sorrrryyyy EDIT 2: damn I wish I had like another few days to work on this video, because I've had one or two points I was a little iffy about corrected, and it all makes more sense now. turns out, Street Fighter V sucks, and THAT'S why the show ended. Mike hated playing the game, so he left the show. Sorry for getting that point confused guys!!! My Twitch ➱ www.twitch.tv/quintonreviews/ My Patreon ➱ www.patreon.com/QReview My Twitter ➱ twitter.com/Q_Review Our Reddit ➱ www.reddit.com/r/QuintonReviews
I’m surprised by the raw amount of comments here saying they never heard of him. The FGC is quite a bubble I suppose. But yeah, the FGC is niche. You can’t compare FGC views against all of RUclips, you have to gauge the popularity in comparison to the total community. Just imo something to consider.
A quick clarification about what you said arounf 11:38 about Mike Ross leaving because gameplays not going his way: actually his frustration was with the game itself, Streer Fighter 5 did a lot of things that didn't float well with the community, especially with long time players like them, for starters the game got rid of long crazy impossible combos in favor of more stream lined ones, back on SF4 linking moves could only be done within one frame (1 frame links, a 1/60 second to input the next move), meaning even the simplest combo was a feat, the trade-of being that long "infinite" combos were posible ONLY if you were like stupid awesome at the game, for SF5 Capcom noted that a lot of players got into the game to try and do those long combos and dropped the game harder than a bag of bricks when they realized how much work that meant, so they "fixed it" by changing the time you have to link moves to 3 frames (3/60 of a second) wich doesn't sound so much better until you play it, most people will feel the input window to be longer than it actually is because the brain is awesome like that, so everyone was doing this impresively long looking combos but in reality those combos were almost guaranteed to come out and boringly linear, in order to "balance it" now you had a lot less freedome, like you would actually see your character punch or kick the oponent but if it wasn't programed to be a part of the combo as the designers wanted, it just wouldn't connect, so everyone was doing the exact same combo as you, and to top it off in Capcom's e-sport centric focus, in order to keep the Meta always moving and guessing they tried to regularly buff characters giving more attention to under used ones, a good idea on paper until it became a game of playing favorites, the tier list was always changing for the wrong reasons, often because the fixes meant making certain moves for a character bullshit while killing off abilities for other charachters, they used to say the actuall reward for wining a tournament was to get your character nerfed, and while for us casually competitive players meant the online was anoying and would usually get flooded by Capcom's favorite of the week, for pros it meant there was no actuall tier liest, frame data didn't last for long and learning a character felt like a waste of time when it could get destroyed on the next patch, add all of those things together and the real reason Mike Ross left was because it got frustrated with the new e-sport culture Capcom tried to build off with SF5 and was a vocal advocate against e-sport culture in fighting games when other games tried to follow in Capcom's foot steps, now days the balancing and the way Capcom handles DLC and so in SF5 has gone a bit better and thank god Onochi (SF5's original director) is forever gone, but it is too late.
loved the vid as always, never knew who this guy was before you showed this and know super happy I didn’t know him before; I see him, like Trump, getting himself completely banned from social media.
I love how he starts out as the living embodiment of what it means to be in a poggers kind of mood, then years later he looks like every last bit of joy has left his very soul
@@markmessi9020 Or he should have hoped on hair-loss treatment medication, the only ones that are scientifically proven to work- Finasteride and Minoxidil...at least back in the stage when he didn't dismiss anything of scientific relevance as some 'big scheme and scam' in his 'woke' conspiracy days that we are seeing.
@@hannibalburgers477 it sometimes ends well. I don't really want to support Buzzfeed, but their "I accidentally became a meme" series is quite interesting ...
"The poggers guy is a real tool..." Okay let's stop using the pog emote "...and he also hates when people use the pog emote." Okay let's use it as much as we can
I mean did Gootecks not go to college?? surely he must KNOW what a peer review article is.. All college students know. it is the first thing you are taught even at high school when writing a research paper. Plus he is not even an epidemiologist, or a virologist NOR a biologist that concerns with viruses and bacteria. How in the fucking hell will he have the background and knowledge to create such paper?? its like if pewdiepie were to write a research paper on terraforming mars. like no, it doesnt work that way because he wants to. Research papers are the culmination of people's years of hard work and knowledge within a field and extensive research and supervision from a respected professor of the said field. It isn't a thing you wake up in the damn morning and decide to do.
I knew Gootecks back around 2010. He is such a different person today. I think his story is similar to a lot of the people he found himself associating with as of late. These people once were full of hopes and dreams in their youth and for whatever reasons, their lives never became what they thought it should be. Their egos never allowed them to reconcile this and the only way to validate their existence was not to admit that they were wrong but to instead believe everyone else is wrong. He was a fun guy back in the day and it's sad to see him like this. I hope he gets the help he needs and can turn his life around.
who are you? this sounds like a made up story from someone who doesn't agree with his point of view. "sad to see him like this" aka sad to see him not agreeing with how you think.
"He wanted to prove himself as the best to all his friends" I feel like this is why Ash Ketchum's been 10 since the 90s. If he aged in real time, (and the series gained a more realistic grounded tone) the show would probably get really depressing. But like, really slowly. Which I imagine would only make it more depressing...
When someone said "poggers" to me I thought they were talking about pogs the disks and they said "NO it's an internet thing!" I felt like a fool. Now in pissed, cause I was kinda right.
Poggers guy the Unpoggers was a dark lord of the memes, so powerful and so wise he could use his face to influence the masses to create memes. He had such knoledge in the dark side he could even keep the ones he cared of from unpogging. He became so memeful the only thing he wss scared of was unpogging, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught Twitch everything he knew, and then Twitch killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from unpog, but not himself.
@@rozmarinideas5340 nah, bleach is usually sodium hypochlorite, NaClO. Hydroxychloroquine, C18H26ClN3O, usually administered as hydroxychloroquine sulfate, C18H28ClN3O5S, is used to treat Malaria and rarely lupus and arthritis as the chloroquine breaks down parts of the malaria, -but is also an immunosuppressive iirc,- so while it was thought that it might have similar effects on COVID19 (which doesn't really pan out, since it wasn't used on previous coronaviruses of the same family, like SARS2, so I don't think anyone that knew what they were talking about expected a successful response with COVID19, though I suppose it was worth a shot, since it could have saved lives if test proved successful early on). As it turns out it's completely useless for COVID19, so you are exposing yourself to all the side effects -that can potentially inhibit your immuno-response- for all the upside of a placebo at best. -edit: since it is an anti-inflammatory immunosuppressive, it is entirely possible that you could THINK it was helping since it was shutting down your immune systems inflammatory response, but it does nothing to destroy any part of the virus structure, so, unlike malaria, it is not a useful as a treatment to COVID19 and in most cases is probably just causing more problems down the line.- edit: ignore what I said about it being an immunosupressive, apparently I was missinformed and that isn't a major aspect, still not a cure for COVID though
Didn't even know about it even though I sat for the 4 hours it took place with 4 different twitter tabs open with political keywords trying to put together what the fuck was happening.
@@malnutritionboy the zip ties unequivocally indicate the potential danger and intent. Anyone trying to downplay the severity ought to recognize that if the floor wasn't evacuated there would surely have been officials on both sides, R&D, tied up and beaten. If they had gotten even one, that could've been a hostage situation and they'd still be in there right now.
Man, I was a follower of Excellent Adventures during its golden years, the Gootecks and Mike Ross combo was amazing. I remember actually meeting Gootecks back during 2017 at E3, even got my hat signed by him, and even by then he seemed tired, broken, and self-loathing, it was pretty sad.
Same tho, I remember tuning in for the 2012 holiday special ahahah. And yeah, it was clear in all the lead up to the end that there was rough shit going on behind the scenes. Constant hiatuses and 'Final Episodes' only to come back a year later, Gootecks seemed way more interested in starting esports clubs and being vaguely predatory about (young) women than he did actually playing the game.
@VV the fuck are you talking about? Cancel culture? My dude, I just mentioned that I saw Gootecks being a sad dude a few years ago, and that he seemed sorta desperate.
@@jamesbra4410 stupid internet insects,that will add lies . like this thing I found in the comments, misinformation."This video was very well put together and explained a lot of things I was trying to learn about." Except that at 25:12 alone Quinton manages to somehow grossly misquote Gootecks to have said something he has never said, while at the same time posting the original tweet on the screen so you can see the discrepancy! Then Quinton somehow goes on a complete non-sequitur that that tweet somehow implied that Gootecks called for more insurrection against the US government. wha-?
I love how Fallen Titans is just kinda about whatever, I know some people only want internet drama or whatever but I feel like Quinton is just good at cataloging the history of any number of internet things
its so taboo to question or challenge the narative these days, just look at how viciously Quinton suggest Gooteck was killing people with his opinion... what a load of crap by Quinton
@@BearTraderDan How is it taboo? People are still discussing it on huge platforms to this day. Stop playing the victim because you don't believe in modern medicine, go back to your crystals.
@@JimC607 now that its over, people like you start to forget, you still get censored suspended and banned on Facebook even today, and much worse last year, if your on youtube you get demonetized, and even banned according to how far you go. I personally lost my most left wing friends, i got an account banned on twitter, but now things have changed. so your speaking about todays reality, with the Elon musk take over, the end of the Pandemic after everyone got infected by Omicron no matter if they where vaccinated or not, so now they cant hold on to the lie, everyone realizes its no longer scary, so they have no choice but the loosen their grip, but their are aspects of the narrative that are still heavily censored and you get banned for mentioning them today, than they are focused on the massive clots found in dead people, the massive spikes in deaths and adverse effects, and the punishment of people have done the real in-depth analysis, there is more to this than you can find in youtube, you need to go to rumble to get more of an idea, and you need to know the insiders who are being persecuted to understand how far this goes...
@@JimC607 ps who’s playing victim , I’m attacking some scum bag who attacked a man who was correct and honest . Why should we allow these pharma shills to spout these lies get proven wrong and still not counter their propaganda . The victims are the fools who listened to these lies and believed them.
Man I feel dumb. At first I thought "pogchamp" had something to do with the game pogs, but I couldn't for the life of me draw a connection so I just assumed it had something to do with "play of the game".
You had me scared for a moment at the end there, like "JIM STERLING?! Since when's he fallen?!" But then he dropped the magic word and I suddenly understood.
@@buranflakes boston's favourite son is a comedy improv podcast that jim, jonathan and conrad (the people in the clip at the end) do as a follow-up to podtoid, the podcast they used to do years ago. podtoid was ostensibly a videogame podcast for the website destructoid with a revolving door of hosts but when jim and jonathan joined it, it took a turn for the weird
Also for what it's worth, as others have said, yeah, Mike's anger was 100% an act he's a super chill guy lol. Like frustrated sure but he was absolutely never the 'throw your controller' guy at tournaments etc.
Except that one time on the Capcom show when Mike lost and smashed his controller to pieces while fLoE and K-brad were on. Epic meltdown!! Also on twitch he's quite sensitive towards hecklers - always an instant ban! even if you send bits to cheer at the wrong time. Love the People's Champ his energy and enthusiasm back in the day was out of this world, still a great player today!!!
@@picketf I never saw him smash his controller?? I'm not gonna blame him for being snappy on Twitch though, big audiences with a direct, immediate, unfiltered line to you plus minority status are a rough combination lol
It really wouldn’t. “The pogchamp dude is fucking nuts” is a more interesting way to frame the subject than “some random street fighter player has really bad opinions” People only care about the face.
@William Burns For real. How fart-for-brains do they have to be to think "government bad, so let's replace bad government with guy who personifies the very worst things about the government and none of the good parts."
I can only think of two gamer scientists, and one of them quit their job as a scientist to play video games for a living, so the future doesn't look to bright for them.
The closest thing I could even think of to compare to a "gamer scientist" is MatPat. A man that literally makes THEORIES out of shreds of evidence to create a thesis that only holds water because it can't be disproven until the next DLC retcons it out of existence. And he defintely wouldn't approve of anti-COVID diatribe since he can use his brain and probably cite more sources for a FNAF backstory than pogman did in his paper (if there are any that don't parrot his thoughts. I won't give it the dignity of being read rn)
As an FGC member and a long fan of Mike Ross and Gootecks excellent adventures series watching his slow decent into madness was heart breaking. I have watched every single episode of excellent adventures and its still to this day some of the best fighting game content out there.
Me: “Oh hell yeah Fallen Titans is back-“ Quinton: “If you want to show me you want more of this, you have to hit subscribe.” Me, staring at the subscribe button that I’ve already clicked, sobbing: “what do you want me to DO, Quinton??” Jokes aside I always loved this series and I think it’s one of the channel’s best, I’d be super down to see more
I agree but the teaser at the end of the video... mmnf... no. I think he should leave Jim alone. One, super nice guy and a legitimate force for good in the gaming scene and two, hardly a candidate because he’s still doing great. Quinton needs to be more careful who he covers lest he just come off like a bully or a third rate RUclips drama channel.
@@cool_scatter uhhhhh. No not in my experience. It’s always been guys who got unreasonably big on RUclips and aren’t anymore and documenting what happened to cause their fall. Hence the title. If he wanted to just do a nonstalgic look back on Jim he would just... do an episode on Jim. Like the history channel episode.
@@doggald3025 tbh that’s honestly what Quinton video itself feels like too as much as his newer videos have been good, stuff like this just kinda reminds me of how he’ll use a subject just to spin it off and riff on something else entirely. Even as someone who agrees with him here, it’s kinda nasty to make a video like this that is almost semi-misleading and just goes into “covid deniers are bad”, which they are ofc but like..that’s not why people watched the video. And the fact that he blatantly mentions that he doesn’t really give a shit about gootecks fall from the FGC makes it even worse. TL;DR: Quinton was right but he was being a dick for basically using this subject as an excuse to shit on conspiracy nuts (even if they do deserve it).
@@shinji2898 he did it with his ancient aliens video as well. It's like he's just desperate to prove how woke he is and his content suffers for it. Notice how the new nickelodeon series has ZERO woke shit in it on his part and has done the best on his channel.
Fuck...I loved Mike Ross and Gootecks in Excellent Adventures/cross counter etc. Watched that shit religiously. This actually really saddens me. I watched it while I had to deal with some really dark shit and was in a terrible place. It made me feel better a little bit.
Also, his personality somewhere took a sharp turn into weirdChamp territory. As a former addict myself, who used partying to normalize my substance-use, my gut tells me that he got heavy into party drugs and lost his marbles in the process.
@@janreal84 Having known someone in college who went down that path - yeah, I'm getting very similar vibes, cuz he too brain-fried himself into paranoid conspiracy beliefs, then drove away his party-drug friends, until nothing but drugs, suspicion and anger remained. Congrats on getting out of that place, by the by! Addiction is hard to kick. Hope you're doing well today. :)
@The Mutineers that's because Pewds didn't say it with malicious intent. Not to mention, he's too big to fail by this point. People have never even knew gooteks real name outside of just calling him "Pogchamp guy".
Yeah man, like who does that. God knows I sure haven't bought 200 plushies of myself before. As in, if you checked my closet, you totally would not find 200 plushies of myself that I bought on accident back in February hiding in a box in the corner. Like, zero chance. Because I've never done that. At all. EDIT: Zero chance.
Here's an update regarding Twitch's removal of PogChamp: Since PogChamp, Pog, Poggers, etc is ingrained in Twitch culture at this point, rather than outright remove PogChamp, Twitch has sought to replace it. Starting today (1/8/21), they are, for a time, changing the PogChamp emote every 24hrs, seemingly until they come up with a permanent replacement. The first is the streamer Unroolie, who was possibly the first to tweet a photo of themselves making the Pog expression and suggesting Twitch use their face instead. I'm glad the source of the PogChamp name is such a deep reference, since it made it easy to divorce Gootecks entirely from the meme.
@@RedSntDK Day9 has been involved with a lot of Twitch events and works closely with them; it read more like an alley-oop than a genuine random suggestion he came up with.
I read it religiously back in the day, and while the webcomic steadily declined in quality I still would say I overall liked it and I would love to see what Quinton has to say.
@@WASDLeftClick I agree with the quality decrease. I believe that it is because of Hussie hiring ghost writers. The art became better due to the community contributors, though it lost the charm of shitty vector drawings making it look like it was drawn in MS Paint.
@@WASDLeftClick THIS. Was a huge fan, it did so much good for my life and my sister's (Hell, my niece wouldn't exist if two nerds didn't meet in a Homestuck RP forum...) but yeah by the time it ended I just couldn't care
Imagine first becoming a meme and then becoming whatever the fuck he is now. Also, hate really ages you. I mean look at this guy in 2010 and then compare it to now, he looks like he aged 20 years in that time.
It's because people who hate as much as this guy and are super paranoid like him are very stressed out 24/7 which drastically accelerates aging and causes hair loss...which explains a lot lol. It's also why so many white supremacists are skin heads
Feels weird being part of the small camp in here that knows of Gootecks far more vividly than PogChamp. Everytime I saw that Emote it always surprised me that the guy I watched make Excellent Adventures for years had accidentally produced something that outgrew him and was being used by a vast number of people who didn't even know a single thing about the man or his origins. Not that this is entirely a unique perspective, but I'm not very privvy with Internet culture and it's developements, so it's rare that I'd ever be part of the well informed party for these types of videos that have been flying around over these last few years of RUclips And by the way Quinton, the main appeal of Excellent Adventures and what brought it tons of attention in the FGC in particular was that it was offline competitors taking their abilities to the online scene and recording the matches for everyone to see. Back then online players were considered a joke, and offline settings were the only credible places to play the game. This stigma meant pretty much all these incredibly skilled players that had been getting results for years never played online, and we rarely ever got to see these two groups clash. So when Mike and Gootecks decided to jump online, we finally got to see just how good they compared to the online crowd. Even though it pretty much confirmed that these offline players were stronger, it was entertaining to see the skill gap in action finally. The average online player got a chance to play these big deal tournament placers, and when some online players started taking games off the boys, even though things like the connection could be used as an excuse, it was encouraging to see that players that only had online as an option could still get good enough to beat the offline talent in any capacity. All in all, not only did Excellent Adventures ease up on the stigma of fighting games online being a useless commodity, but it also gave people an opportunity to make a name for themselves by beating the alreadly established talent, and some of them became quite popular, even meme'd regularly in the comments. It's pretty commonplace now, but tournament winners weren't bred online, and that show was the first glimpse into the world that's produced so many strong players and 1st placers now, who have humble beginnings of starting off online and getting better in that medium, where a world without that show might've discouraged them from even trying.
Not gonna say I read all of that but I was watching excellent adventures way before twitch and POG became popular. It was always so mind boggling crazy to me that Gooteks never jumped on the opportunity to grow his brand with The POGGERS emote.. he could’ve literally just became a twitch streamer claimed the POGGERS username and made A LOT of money.. It’s absolutely insane... instead he decides to become some Street fighter 4 teacher?? Wtf? Back then I knew something about this guys decisions were off besides devoting way too much of their life to SF4. I really do hope for the best with this guy I feel like his life is missing a lot of balance and as a result it’s in shambles
It honestly breaks my heart to see what Gootecks turned into, I remember devouring every episode of Excellent Adventures and even included the Mike Ross pop-off in a presentation on eSports last semester. Been watching Mike play Dota 2 and he's still pretty much the same charismatic guy but man, Gootecks sure went down an awful path.
Excellent adventures was the show that really good me into fighting games. The Gootecks and Mike Ross chemistry simply can't be replicated, although the episodes of Capcom Pro Talk are still worth a watch!
Mental health is overlooked in the USA. I think more funding and acceptance is desperately needed. A lot of these people have mental health issues and need professional help.
As someone with a mental illness, I disagree. Some of these people are just stupid. You don't have to be mentally ill to believe in stupid things. On the same note, people can be mentally ill and still be perfectly reasonable and rational. I do agree that the U.S needs to increase it's acceptance of mental illness and make treatment more accessible. Some of these people, as you said, may be suffering from mental illnesses such as anxiety, depression, mood disorders, paranoia, delusions, etc. So I guess I sort of agree?
While I, someone with mental illness, agree the US really needs better mental health help and acceptance. I don’t think you should see this and go “He’s got mental health problems” because even though it’s possible he does , I think he’s just a *huge* stupid asshole. Some people just are. It’s not always mental issues. So like the commenter above, I agree but also don’t in a way I guess
@@kittye8340 Never compare your mental issues with someone else's. And dont use it as a "measuring unit" to determine how someone else suffering with it, should behave or act. Mental illness is not a one size fits all.
How funny is it a bunch of gamers who stare away their existence into meaningless games are unaware of what Bill Gates has done and said about his plans for society. And they think Gootecks is crazy. It’s honestly hilarious and really sad people look up to these streamers for opinions on life. You’re looking up to someone whose kinda funny and sits at a computer all day for opinions on how to live your life.. Crazy
The fact Gootecks was such a household name in the FGC and he just consistently devolved into the “Poggers guy” alone is such an intense fall from grace already. But now the recent fall is just… woah.
Gooteks didn't actually devolve into Poggers guy. He still remained a household name in the FGC, the FGC just happens to be a relatively niche community and his Poggers "fame" became much, much larger than that. It was kind of a cool story about a niche guy from the community getting indirect household fame. And then what happened happened.............sigh
Lmfao, I’m honestly excited for people to learn that Jim sterling invented “chungus.” I’ve been curious how it went from “jim sterling” thing to “genuinely widespread meme”
As a Jim Sterling fan, I can say I personally used it for years, without context, and even I wasn't 100% sure Jim invented it. It's just a particularly dumb funny word to enter when the video game prompts you to name something. It's something we all like to do, but no one could ever agree on what's the funniest dumb word to go with. Until Chungus
Throttle Kitty I’m still semi-convinced that the “original” big chungus meme was made entirely separately from Jim, and that they aren’t actually connected (that’s almost entirely impossible, but I still maintain it)
Jim Sterling is also single-handedly responsible for Five Nights at Freddy's mere existence. No, really. He did a video bashing the dev's previous game saying the cutesy animals looked like creepy animatronics, and the dev just ran with it.
@@EdenNeedsARUclipsHandle Yup, it really is real interesting to see how some dev react to criticism. Some like Scott Cawthon decide hmm, in that case, i use this to my strength and others like digital homicide just double down on their shittiness.
I have literally never heard someone pronounce "doge" like that. I've heard "doggy", and I've heard "dough-(J-sound)" But never "dodge" with a silent second d.
It's weird how everyone is lookin in on this dude now as the pog face guy. When back in the day this dude was super respected in street fighter 4. It's so sad how esport "fame" is really hard to achieve but so quick to go as soon as the new fighting game title comes out.
@@ZDiddy7777 if that's how you want to look at it go ahead my guy. You can say that about any sub culture if your not a fan of it. But it has shown that being good at a video game especially a fighting game can bring in some big money now a days so I would say being respected in those circles definitely means a lot more than it used to
We're seeing a mini-resurgence of UMVC3 recently sort of like how prior Melee players refused to move on to brawl and just kept on playing melee. It all depends on how much the playerbase wants to keep playing 1 game and how much of a trainwreck the new fighting game sequel is
How come he couldn't just transfer over to SFV? Is it that much more different of a game than IV for a competitior? I barely play any SF games beyond just looking at mods so I don't fully notice the difference.
@@thenotoriouspunk23 Oh okay, that does explain it as they would know the mechanics and if they're too different better than anyone. Thanks but that's still unfortunate.
Quinton, I'm the last person Machinima ever hired and I remember the madness during the purging of all their content online, why must you remind me of this? XD glad to see more fallen titans episodes!
Hold on... so every time someone said “big chungus” they were basically saying “big chubby anus”? Suddenly, in retrospect, every single Big Chungus meme is 10x funnier.
To me it's sad because 2009-era Gootecks was an energetic and friendly guy that fell down a conspiratorial rabbit hole with clear mental health issues on top of that
"Gootechs wants to overthrow the United States Government." The fact that this is an unironic, completely truthful statement just perfectly sums up this period of time we're living in.
@@kaydwessie296 i'm thinking a wiggly line kinda design, replace the red with a light cream, spread the stars across the whole thing with a brown colouration and remove the blue square. Just make it look like some kind of delicious desert. ALSO i want to fire all the nukes so we can become radio-anprim
Missed Fallen Titans, the intro is honestly good still? The animation is very smooth and the jingle is charming. Another great video on a youtuber I've never seen, but an interesting watch on someone's downfall.
i don’t really feel especially conflicted about the pogchamp meme, it’s ten years separated from the actor, he hates it, and i honestly expect it’ll fall out of my vocabulary in a few months as memes do. it’s just sort of a weird shrug of a dilemma, i guess.
I used to watch the Excellent Adventures of Gootecks and Mike Ross every week. The fighting game community aside of Smash bros is pretty small compared to gaming as a whole so they were a relatively well known duo within the FGC. Following the falling out between the two we saw the shift of Gootecks toward his conspiracy theory ideals and kind of left him by the wayside. In my opinion it's kind of saddening that he'll only be remembered as the "Poggers" guy when he meant so much more to people in the FGC before he, you know, kinda went crazy
Simple explanation: Gootecks was fully taken over by the Satsui No Hado Edit: I can’t read a single Gootecks political tweet without mentally picturing that meme picture of Shawn Michaels confused out of his mind while trying to operate a computer
This comment will probably be missed, but it was known for years in the more dedicated FGC that Gootecks was a big-time drug user. Several times when he came on to do commentary for fighting game tournament streams it was pretty obvious that he was either stoned or coked up. Fighting game tournaments in general, especially the smaller ones (
@@llewliet4021 Bro people don't go through that dramatic of a physical change in 10 years without some kind of substance abuse or other unhealthy lifestyle
I've met Gootecks a handful of times and we would say hi to each other in passing and I was a big fan of a lot of his early work. Seeing his downfall really fucking sucks
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edit: hiii i'm sorry that i cant say hydwoquacksaquenton i tried really hard but i just decided to wing it sorrrryyyy
EDIT 2: damn I wish I had like another few days to work on this video, because I've had one or two points I was a little iffy about corrected, and it all makes more sense now. turns out, Street Fighter V sucks, and THAT'S why the show ended. Mike hated playing the game, so he left the show. Sorry for getting that point confused guys!!!
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I’m surprised by the raw amount of comments here saying they never heard of him. The FGC is quite a bubble I suppose.
But yeah, the FGC is niche. You can’t compare FGC views against all of RUclips, you have to gauge the popularity in comparison to the total community. Just imo something to consider.
A quick clarification about what you said arounf 11:38 about Mike Ross leaving because gameplays not going his way: actually his frustration was with the game itself, Streer Fighter 5 did a lot of things that didn't float well with the community, especially with long time players like them, for starters the game got rid of long crazy impossible combos in favor of more stream lined ones, back on SF4 linking moves could only be done within one frame (1 frame links, a 1/60 second to input the next move), meaning even the simplest combo was a feat, the trade-of being that long "infinite" combos were posible ONLY if you were like stupid awesome at the game, for SF5 Capcom noted that a lot of players got into the game to try and do those long combos and dropped the game harder than a bag of bricks when they realized how much work that meant, so they "fixed it" by changing the time you have to link moves to 3 frames (3/60 of a second) wich doesn't sound so much better until you play it, most people will feel the input window to be longer than it actually is because the brain is awesome like that, so everyone was doing this impresively long looking combos but in reality those combos were almost guaranteed to come out and boringly linear, in order to "balance it" now you had a lot less freedome, like you would actually see your character punch or kick the oponent but if it wasn't programed to be a part of the combo as the designers wanted, it just wouldn't connect, so everyone was doing the exact same combo as you, and to top it off in Capcom's e-sport centric focus, in order to keep the Meta always moving and guessing they tried to regularly buff characters giving more attention to under used ones, a good idea on paper until it became a game of playing favorites, the tier list was always changing for the wrong reasons, often because the fixes meant making certain moves for a character bullshit while killing off abilities for other charachters, they used to say the actuall reward for wining a tournament was to get your character nerfed, and while for us casually competitive players meant the online was anoying and would usually get flooded by Capcom's favorite of the week, for pros it meant there was no actuall tier liest, frame data didn't last for long and learning a character felt like a waste of time when it could get destroyed on the next patch, add all of those things together and the real reason Mike Ross left was because it got frustrated with the new e-sport culture Capcom tried to build off with SF5 and was a vocal advocate against e-sport culture in fighting games when other games tried to follow in Capcom's foot steps, now days the balancing and the way Capcom handles DLC and so in SF5 has gone a bit better and thank god Onochi (SF5's original director) is forever gone, but it is too late.
loved the vid as always, never knew who this guy was before you showed this and know super happy I didn’t know him before; I see him, like Trump, getting himself completely banned from social media.
I love how he starts out as the living embodiment of what it means to be in a poggers kind of mood, then years later he looks like every last bit of joy has left his very soul
He aged horribly
years later he became peeposad
Its been a hell of a year, or should I say a year in hell
@Nacho Libre He's in the "i can still save some" stage of it. Shave it off and that joy comes back almost instantly.
@@markmessi9020 Or he should have hoped on hair-loss treatment medication, the only ones that are scientifically proven to work- Finasteride and Minoxidil...at least back in the stage when he didn't dismiss anything of scientific relevance as some 'big scheme and scam' in his 'woke' conspiracy days that we are seeing.
Twitch: ugh... fine, I guess you're not my little pogchamp. Go away.
😭😭😭
true
Reddit gold moment
Ironically, this controversy will probably bring his fame back and increase his viewerbase
@@sanguine2552 well have to wait
You've heard the saying "Never meet your heroes", now get ready for "Never meet your memes"
It never ends up good, except with Dick the birthday boy. Because it is worse.
@@hannibalburgers477 it sometimes ends well. I don't really want to support Buzzfeed, but their "I accidentally became a meme" series is quite interesting ...
Harold is probably one of the very few living memes who's still chillin...
perfect caption
I would love to meed Doge tho not gonna lie. Give her a hug and belly rubs
Damn its so nerve racking seeing young gootecks' happy face melt into the present gootecks.
It's like watching a Amanda Bynes transformation.
We can only blame ourselves. We let him down.
The real future Gootecks was much more somber than anyone could have ever imagined.
Looks fade
I hope he gets betterChamp and leaves those weird conspiraciesChamp
"The poggers guy is a real tool..."
Okay let's stop using the pog emote
"...and he also hates when people use the pog emote."
Okay let's use it as much as we can
You have two buttons.
Stop using an emote that references an insane racist asshole.
Use it even more because it pisses him off.
I don't want to expend the effort of even recognising him, but to people who do cuz they know it pisses him off.
Salute!
@Shaman X just means he should be robbed
@Shaman X do you happen to have his address by any chance?
Selling the peopel
I hope one day he gets to have a final rival battle against Mike Ross in a climactic and tragic showdown between past friends
A battle to rival Dante Vs Vergil
I don't know why but my brain thought you wrote Mike Rowe and I was pretty hype on the idea of Goo fighting the host of "Dirty Jobs"
@@jayzell3687 “Destroying the Poggers Guy is a dirty job, but someone’s gotta do it.”
Nathan Loring thank you for that, I chocked in my smoothie when reading it but it was 1000% worth it. Hats off mate
[Unravel starts playing]
“Your peers cannot review your ‘academic COVID-19 research paper’ because you are a FUCKING LET’S PLAYER!!!” I don’t why, but this one really got me.
It’s pretty damn funny to be fair. 😆
The absurdity of the situation just makes the joke land so much
I choked, it really got me 😂
Why would he say that
i lost it at that point too lmao
I mean did Gootecks not go to college?? surely he must KNOW what a peer review article is.. All college students know. it is the first thing you are taught even at high school when writing a research paper. Plus he is not even an epidemiologist, or a virologist NOR a biologist that concerns with viruses and bacteria. How in the fucking hell will he have the background and knowledge to create such paper?? its like if pewdiepie were to write a research paper on terraforming mars. like no, it doesnt work that way because he wants to. Research papers are the culmination of people's years of hard work and knowledge within a field and extensive research and supervision from a respected professor of the said field. It isn't a thing you wake up in the damn morning and decide to do.
Gootecks is a living embodiment of that scene in SpongeBob where he had a happy "old-days" photo of the supermarket clerk fish
Hey, off by a few months I see.
ruclips.net/video/RpQaEP0JIec/видео.html
Fun fact: The name "pogs" comes from the fact they were caps for passionfruit-orange-guava juice.
How did it take me decades to learn this
That IS a fun fact. Thank you!
Pogj
pog juice mmm
it's crazy to think that the word pog originally came from that juice and is now probably more well known than the juice due to twitch
"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Gootecks the Pog?"
the damn Star Wars reference
It's not a story the twitch would tell you
@@skelebonez1349 don’t try it Skelebonez, they have the high ground
@@soundwave8781 BAHAHA
His favorite gun is a Mp40 chambered in 49.9999999999999 Cal. Hopefully not.
I knew Gootecks back around 2010. He is such a different person today. I think his story is similar to a lot of the people he found himself associating with as of late. These people once were full of hopes and dreams in their youth and for whatever reasons, their lives never became what they thought it should be. Their egos never allowed them to reconcile this and the only way to validate their existence was not to admit that they were wrong but to instead believe everyone else is wrong. He was a fun guy back in the day and it's sad to see him like this. I hope he gets the help he needs and can turn his life around.
Sounds a lot like Quinton.
I'm honestly shocked that you're here. Always love your ramen vids btw.
who are you? this sounds like a made up story from someone who doesn't agree with his point of view.
"sad to see him like this" aka sad to see him not agreeing with how you think.
@@tonyelectionfraud669 Disagreeing with reality is not a difference of opinion.
Wow, this was a really insightful comment.
"He wanted to prove himself as the best to all his friends"
I feel like this is why Ash Ketchum's been 10 since the 90s. If he aged in real time, (and the series gained a more realistic grounded tone) the show would probably get really depressing. But like, really slowly. Which I imagine would only make it more depressing...
OOof!
*slowly whispers*
"I wanna be, the very best... "
Ash Ketchum doesn’t believe in COVID 19 and supports the invasion of the US Capitol
@@DarkDashV6 he won in alola luckily
@@frds_skce Laying in his twin bed that he's way too large for, staring at the ceiling in his mother's home, humming to himself
Greekgodx just walking away mid rant is fucking prime comedy
Shit, if I'm on a stream with a guy who's implying himself to be an anti-vaxxer, I would've got up and walked away too.
To be fair its Greek, I don't think he was listening to begin with and his mind was likely preoccupied with something else xD who knows
"NOPE"
lmao my only context for greekgodx before this video is the eye tracking speech, which made this even funnier.
He probably knew that clip was about to be used in a million commentary videos and didn’t want to be a part of it 😂
"I accidentally bought 200 plushies of myself"
"Yeah bro I accidentally bought a lamborghini I also accidentally did the paper work "
Lol I was gunna comment the same thing. Like so what if he just bought them. Find it hard to believe you can make an order like that mistakenly
@@illbeburningstar1 Yeah it's jokes in the end .
Come on guys of course it's a joke he has them to sell them
@@bigantdud3499 Yes I know it was a joke .
@@wethe666 I know it was a joke I was playing along with the joke tho
Fun Fact: he shit himself at evo once
he who's in the what now ?
@@QuintonReviews Once during the video game tournament known as “EVO” Gootecks shit his pants while inside an elevator.
why do these guys always shit themselves in public
Whats with fighting game communities and smelling like shit LOL
@@ubermaster1 listen thats just smash players ok. And also blanka players. And anime game players
When someone said "poggers" to me I thought they were talking about pogs the disks and they said "NO it's an internet thing!" I felt like a fool. Now in pissed, cause I was kinda right.
That was me. Sorry bout that
Have you ever heard the Tragedy of Poggers guy the Unpoggers
no
"he was legendary"
I thought no. It's not a story the Twitch staff would tell you. It's a memer legend.
Of all the deliciously un-poggers clips there are many
Poggers guy the Unpoggers was a dark lord of the memes, so powerful and so wise he could use his face to influence the masses to create memes. He had such knoledge in the dark side he could even keep the ones he cared of from unpogging. He became so memeful the only thing he wss scared of was unpogging, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught Twitch everything he knew, and then Twitch killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from unpog, but not himself.
@@Krzztl ironic...
I guess in the end, he really *wasn't* our little pogchamp.
Yes he was he’s based... literally 10x cooler than he was before
Distressed Lo-Fi you know. I get the trolling angle. I really do. I was 15 once as well. But give it your a game at least. 0/10
@@Sandra_aschenbach_doyle you look like you’re 15 lol get off tumblr kid
@@Sandra_aschenbach_doyle you’ve been making content for 6 years and have 13 subs posting mha vids, lmao you’re a bot
@@scottking8189 oh god you have a slowed and distorted edit on you channel
Scientists: Hydroxychloroquine
Quinton: Hydro-clocksy-chloroquine
Gootecks: It cures Coronavirus
Hi-droxy-clor-oh-queen.
Isn't that Bleach?
No, it's Naruto.
@@rozmarinideas5340 nah, bleach is usually sodium hypochlorite, NaClO. Hydroxychloroquine, C18H26ClN3O, usually administered as hydroxychloroquine sulfate, C18H28ClN3O5S, is used to treat Malaria and rarely lupus and arthritis as the chloroquine breaks down parts of the malaria, -but is also an immunosuppressive iirc,- so while it was thought that it might have similar effects on COVID19 (which doesn't really pan out, since it wasn't used on previous coronaviruses of the same family, like SARS2, so I don't think anyone that knew what they were talking about expected a successful response with COVID19, though I suppose it was worth a shot, since it could have saved lives if test proved successful early on). As it turns out it's completely useless for COVID19, so you are exposing yourself to all the side effects -that can potentially inhibit your immuno-response- for all the upside of a placebo at best.
-edit: since it is an anti-inflammatory immunosuppressive, it is entirely possible that you could THINK it was helping since it was shutting down your immune systems inflammatory response, but it does nothing to destroy any part of the virus structure, so, unlike malaria, it is not a useful as a treatment to COVID19 and in most cases is probably just causing more problems down the line.-
edit: ignore what I said about it being an immunosupressive, apparently I was missinformed and that isn't a major aspect, still not a cure for COVID though
VitaMeataVegimin
I have a few friends who struggle with drug addiction and seeing how Gootecks looks like recently, he clearly gives me vibes of an addict.
Gootecks be like:
ugh, fiiine, I guess you are my little proud boy
REALLY good reply
Oooof.
But what's wrong with that?
@@aubymori1333 really.
@@fontunetheteller410 don't you know you have to vote democrat? do you need to be sent to a camp to be re-educated?
"Why do I give a shit?" Should be a staple of fallen titans at this point
You are the only person I've seen talking about the DC riot that actually highlights the zip-ties. That's pretty effing relevant.
Explain?
Didn't even know about it even though I sat for the 4 hours it took place with 4 different twitter tabs open with political keywords trying to put together what the fuck was happening.
@@malnutritionboy the zip ties unequivocally indicate the potential danger and intent. Anyone trying to downplay the severity ought to recognize that if the floor wasn't evacuated there would surely have been officials on both sides, R&D, tied up and beaten. If they had gotten even one, that could've been a hostage situation and they'd still be in there right now.
@@tk9102 Oh i see.
Saw it mentioned on Reddit plenty of times, but I can't speak for youtubers or newscaster.
Man, I was a follower of Excellent Adventures during its golden years, the Gootecks and Mike Ross combo was amazing.
I remember actually meeting Gootecks back during 2017 at E3, even got my hat signed by him, and even by then he seemed tired, broken, and self-loathing, it was pretty sad.
Same tho, I remember tuning in for the 2012 holiday special ahahah. And yeah, it was clear in all the lead up to the end that there was rough shit going on behind the scenes. Constant hiatuses and 'Final Episodes' only to come back a year later, Gootecks seemed way more interested in starting esports clubs and being vaguely predatory about (young) women than he did actually playing the game.
@VV the fuck are you talking about? Cancel culture? My dude, I just mentioned that I saw Gootecks being a sad dude a few years ago, and that he seemed sorta desperate.
"Content warning: this week" is raw
Quinton, you talk like "the worst takes possible" isn't the *whole point* of Twitter.
You forgot the actual most useful thing:
P O R N
@@TheLuckySpades ...
HENTAI BABY
There's a difference between "Well, why DON'T we put orange slices on pizza" and, you know, treason.
@@lunaitc implying putting something like orange slices on a pizza isn't as disgusting and morbid as treason
@@mattsepan6274
blueberries on pizza
"you either die a PogChamp, or live long enough to see yourself become the WeirdChamp." - me, like 2 days ago I think.
STOP that caught me so off guard 😂
Mohawk Gootecks looked like he went Taxi Driver insane and like he'd detonate a bomb at any organized facility at any given moment.
He do be looking like Travis Bickle
Tbh this guy just seems like a dude having a mid-life crisis and falling hard
You can tell by the bags underneath his eyes
Yeah and the internet is here to kick his face in the dirt more
@@jamesbra4410 stupid internet insects,that will add lies . like this thing I found in the comments, misinformation."This video was very well put together and explained a lot of things I was trying to learn about."
Except that at 25:12 alone Quinton manages to somehow grossly misquote Gootecks to have said something he has never said, while at the same time posting the original tweet on the screen so you can see the discrepancy! Then Quinton somehow goes on a complete non-sequitur that that tweet somehow implied that Gootecks called for more insurrection against the US government.
wha-?
@@lordhallibel3604 THE PARASITE
@@lordhallibel3604 do you know what they word 'insinuating' means?
I love how Fallen Titans is just kinda about whatever, I know some people only want internet drama or whatever but I feel like Quinton is just good at cataloging the history of any number of internet things
69 likes nice
This is like watching Anakin slowly fall into the dark side except he doesn't get as cool
Hopefully he doesn't slaughter a class of children, but you know. Can't save 'em all.
And it's sad, but not in a empathetic way
So does that mean that something has the high ground?
Holy shit you guys have no chill, good laughs.
@@hiunaut2833 About as chill as Anakin's ball sack on Mustafar
Why is it every time I watch a video about a person from a competitive gaming group I get super depressed?
You know what they say, the opposite of pog is the GOP
I am using this someday.
*screenshots this comment for future reference*
Wait, this is actually a fantastic joke
As a Trump supporter, this is genius
also please don’t call me a fascist for liking an orange man
@@SteveHarlow-j6o What about for liking a fascist?
I did not know Jim Sterling invented "Chungus"
I did and I never stopped annoying people with it
@@alyssinclair8598 thank you for your service
I knew he invented it.
@@TapDat52K just so you know Jim has come out as nonbinary recently, they use they/them pronouns now
im so excited to hear quinton try to explain the jim/conrad/jonathan era of podtoid
I didn't know how much needed to hear that the Doge dog is having a happy and caring life.
That dog died I thought
No that’s Gabe the dog
@@gmgunnhildr2711 still hurts :(
@@koji8872 no, Kabosu is still alive and well, she recently celebrated her 15th birthday
@@koji8872 as of this comment, Kabosu-chan is still alive, 16-years old.
But it's sad to think of her life ending far sooner than ours.
"He got into a brief debate on the topic of vaccinations" is one of the scariest things you can hear that a content creator did.
True because most people are stupid sheep beliving everything media says
its so taboo to question or challenge the narative these days, just look at how viciously Quinton suggest Gooteck was killing people with his opinion... what a load of crap by Quinton
@@BearTraderDan How is it taboo? People are still discussing it on huge platforms to this day. Stop playing the victim because you don't believe in modern medicine, go back to your crystals.
@@JimC607 now that its over, people like you start to forget, you still get censored suspended and banned on Facebook even today, and much worse last year, if your on youtube you get demonetized, and even banned according to how far you go. I personally lost my most left wing friends, i got an account banned on twitter, but now things have changed. so your speaking about todays reality, with the Elon musk take over, the end of the Pandemic after everyone got infected by Omicron no matter if they where vaccinated or not, so now they cant hold on to the lie, everyone realizes its no longer scary, so they have no choice but the loosen their grip, but their are aspects of the narrative that are still heavily censored and you get banned for mentioning them today, than they are focused on the massive clots found in dead people, the massive spikes in deaths and adverse effects, and the punishment of people have done the real in-depth analysis, there is more to this than you can find in youtube, you need to go to rumble to get more of an idea, and you need to know the insiders who are being persecuted to understand how far this goes...
@@JimC607 ps who’s playing victim , I’m attacking some scum bag who attacked a man who was correct and honest . Why should we allow these pharma shills to spout these lies get proven wrong and still not counter their propaganda . The victims are the fools who listened to these lies and believed them.
I'm too young to have a son who can explain this sh*t to me and I'm also too old to understand this sh*t on my own, so thank goodness for you Quinton.
that pfp tho😳
@@bv83x the first thing i saw was the pfp too
How old are you anyway?
That pfp tho
@@Tycini1 I'd assume 30-35.
Poggers was just a reference to pogs this whole time? god dam the internet is stupid
Remember Alf?
@@HOTD108_ He's back! In pog form!
What’d you think it was?
@@expendableindigo9639 I thought it was a bad acronym for 'play of the game '
@@russaz09 As did I.
Man I feel dumb. At first I thought "pogchamp" had something to do with the game pogs, but I couldn't for the life of me draw a connection so I just assumed it had something to do with "play of the game".
Same man
To be fair that also was a term, it just got blended into the meaning of "pogchamp" and "pog"
Yea I was always told it meant play of the game champ. This is the first time I heard it had anything to do with actual pogs.
Same. I was trying to figure out why the kids were referencing a game that went out of style before I was a kid 😂 Gods, I’m old
Did you not watch the video? It literally is referencing pogs.
I now feel extremely validated that it is actually a reference to pogs and not some random Australian slang.
You had me scared for a moment at the end there, like "JIM STERLING?! Since when's he fallen?!" But then he dropped the magic word and I suddenly understood.
the real fallen titan was in fact jonathan off road rules, boston's favourite son
Honestly I knew what it was gonna be the moment I heard "chunky anus"
@@mutantfreak48 what is this
Jim uses they/them nowadays!
@@buranflakes boston's favourite son is a comedy improv podcast that jim, jonathan and conrad (the people in the clip at the end) do as a follow-up to podtoid, the podcast they used to do years ago. podtoid was ostensibly a videogame podcast for the website destructoid with a revolving door of hosts but when jim and jonathan joined it, it took a turn for the weird
I love Fallen Titans! Internet History is fascinating!
Love your videos, John!
Never expected seeing you here
The hell? You look like Quinton's long lost brother with a thicker beard.
My favourite biased history channel
I’d recommend internet historian
Please, please, PLEASE make more Fallen Titans. I fucking LOVE this series.
Also for what it's worth, as others have said, yeah, Mike's anger was 100% an act he's a super chill guy lol. Like frustrated sure but he was absolutely never the 'throw your controller' guy at tournaments etc.
Except that one time on the Capcom show when Mike lost and smashed his controller to pieces while fLoE and K-brad were on. Epic meltdown!!
Also on twitch he's quite sensitive towards hecklers - always an instant ban! even if you send bits to cheer at the wrong time.
Love the People's Champ his energy and enthusiasm back in the day was out of this world, still a great player today!!!
@@picketf I never saw him smash his controller?? I'm not gonna blame him for being snappy on Twitch though, big audiences with a direct, immediate, unfiltered line to you plus minority status are a rough combination lol
"it's like injecting people with salt water- perhaps I'm being hyperbolic here, but..." no, you're being hypernatremic!
Hyper as in high
I didn't expect a biology joke here
nat-, meaning natrium, an old name for sodium, and -emia, meaning presence in blood.
*high sodium presence in blood.*
@@necrotelecomnicon RG is a 38 year old gamer, presenting to the Emergency Room, unconscious.
'He has not urinated in 5 days' RG's mother tells the admitting nurse
"Funny meme man wants to overthrow the United States Government" would make for a better video title tbh
It's sad that this isn't the plot for some terrible RUclipsr movie but the reality we live in.
It really wouldn’t. “The pogchamp dude is fucking nuts” is a more interesting way to frame the subject than “some random street fighter player has really bad opinions”
People only care about the face.
Wonder if the algorithm would reward that title more...nah; needs MORE random CAPITALIZATION thruout TO work.
I don’t blame them, the government is shadier than the Neighborhood Watch trench coat dude
@William Burns For real. How fart-for-brains do they have to be to think "government bad, so let's replace bad government with guy who personifies the very worst things about the government and none of the good parts."
"It can't be peer review because you're a fucking let's player!"
Is Quinton denying the advancements of the gamer sciences?! E-GAD! It mustn't be!
I can only think of two gamer scientists, and one of them quit their job as a scientist to play video games for a living, so the future doesn't look to bright for them.
The closest thing I could even think of to compare to a "gamer scientist" is MatPat. A man that literally makes THEORIES out of shreds of evidence to create a thesis that only holds water because it can't be disproven until the next DLC retcons it out of existence.
And he defintely wouldn't approve of anti-COVID diatribe since he can use his brain and probably cite more sources for a FNAF backstory than pogman did in his paper (if there are any that don't parrot his thoughts. I won't give it the dignity of being read rn)
I stream chess and am an engineer,am i a gamer scientist?
Hungry Box?
@@GladiusTR dude's an engineer, not a scientist
As an FGC member and a long fan of Mike Ross and Gootecks excellent adventures series watching his slow decent into madness was heart breaking. I have watched every single episode of excellent adventures and its still to this day some of the best fighting game content out there.
Gootecks hated pogchamp so he really doesn't lose here in that instance.
Where does he say that
Do you support the lgbtq+ community?
@@cadaga920 Tweets from long ago. He and Ultradavid talked about it
@@bonedmordh5320 Yes but what's your point here?
@@bonedmordh5320 Most sections I support, yes.
Me: “Oh hell yeah Fallen Titans is back-“
Quinton: “If you want to show me you want more of this, you have to hit subscribe.”
Me, staring at the subscribe button that I’ve already clicked, sobbing: “what do you want me to DO, Quinton??”
Jokes aside I always loved this series and I think it’s one of the channel’s best, I’d be super down to see more
Is your avatar a lego minifigure of catra?
Just hit it twice super fast, it'll be like it never happened.
I agree but the teaser at the end of the video... mmnf... no. I think he should leave Jim alone. One, super nice guy and a legitimate force for good in the gaming scene and two, hardly a candidate because he’s still doing great. Quinton needs to be more careful who he covers lest he just come off like a bully or a third rate RUclips drama channel.
@@OtioseFanatic The point of fallen titans was never "hey look how SHITTY this person is!!!" it's just a nostalgic look at big trends of the past
@@cool_scatter uhhhhh. No not in my experience. It’s always been guys who got unreasonably big on RUclips and aren’t anymore and documenting what happened to cause their fall. Hence the title. If he wanted to just do a nonstalgic look back on Jim he would just... do an episode on Jim. Like the history channel episode.
PogChamp being removed may be a small victory for him, but he can't unshit himself in that elevator :)
can if he uses a vacum
Wait what
@@fonchy6098 He shit himself. In an elevator.
@@StarfieldDisarray Are you saying that like.. For real? Or as an apt metaphor
@@imaginekudryavka9485 For real.
You had me feeling sorry for Gootecks and then the covid segment hit. I haven't done a 180 like that in a long time.
You care more about the integrity of their propaganda than human interaction? Not surprising….
@@wolfetteplays8894 furry pfp are not allowed to have opinions
“I’m a psychopath that can’t feel empathy for people I disagree with”
@@doggald3025 tbh that’s honestly what Quinton video itself feels like too
as much as his newer videos have been good, stuff like this just kinda reminds me of how he’ll use a subject just to spin it off and riff on something else entirely. Even as someone who agrees with him here, it’s kinda nasty to make a video like this that is almost semi-misleading and just goes into “covid deniers are bad”, which they are ofc but like..that’s not why people watched the video. And the fact that he blatantly mentions that he doesn’t really give a shit about gootecks fall from the FGC makes it even worse.
TL;DR: Quinton was right but he was being a dick for basically using this subject as an excuse to shit on conspiracy nuts (even if they do deserve it).
@@shinji2898 he did it with his ancient aliens video as well. It's like he's just desperate to prove how woke he is and his content suffers for it. Notice how the new nickelodeon series has ZERO woke shit in it on his part and has done the best on his channel.
Gootecks really missed out by not calling his fanbase the "Goobers."
Your comment is some clean burning hell, I tell you hwhat.
Good sir, do you happen to sell propane and propane-related accessories?
Or (in Hank Hill's voice) "Goofy Goobers", hehe.
@@ChaseBlackmoon Dang ol' Gootecks and his Gooteck accessories
@@jamaisisaicon o
Fuck...I loved Mike Ross and Gootecks in Excellent Adventures/cross counter etc. Watched that shit religiously. This actually really saddens me. I watched it while I had to deal with some really dark shit and was in a terrible place. It made me feel better a little bit.
Also, his personality somewhere took a sharp turn into weirdChamp territory. As a former addict myself, who used partying to normalize my substance-use, my gut tells me that he got heavy into party drugs and lost his marbles in the process.
Capcom Pro Talk was great too. Floe was REALLY entertaining. It's a shame that Mike bounced from that, too.
@@RabidDogma oh god yeah, loved watching floe. also his legendary solo twitch streams where he lost his mind during 'I wanna be the guy'-likes
@@janreal84 Having known someone in college who went down that path - yeah, I'm getting very similar vibes, cuz he too brain-fried himself into paranoid conspiracy beliefs, then drove away his party-drug friends, until nothing but drugs, suspicion and anger remained.
Congrats on getting out of that place, by the by! Addiction is hard to kick. Hope you're doing well today. :)
@@RatchetSly thank you! doing a lot better now
Imagine if this was all a farce and he’s only doing this to get rid of the pogchamp emote
Lol, the long con, although I feel like there are better ways to go about it than spreading harmful misinformation
That would be some giga brain strats, but I think he might just be kinda bad.
@Mr. Jefry that would be quicker yeah
@The Mutineers that's because Pewds didn't say it with malicious intent. Not to mention, he's too big to fail by this point. People have never even knew gooteks real name outside of just calling him "Pogchamp guy".
@@TheBigSad8247 Idubbbz and H3 used to say it plenty of times, in the case with Idubbbz; he used it for shock value
You accidentally bought 200 plushies of yourself... right
Yeah man, like who does that. God knows I sure haven't bought 200 plushies of myself before. As in, if you checked my closet, you totally would not find 200 plushies of myself that I bought on accident back in February hiding in a box in the corner. Like, zero chance. Because I've never done that. At all.
EDIT: Zero chance.
@@JimTheCurator
Good lawd man!
at first i was like: "poggers face guy? oh because thats all he's known for"
then i was like: "oh its because he hates being called the pogchamp guy"
Here's an update regarding Twitch's removal of PogChamp: Since PogChamp, Pog, Poggers, etc is ingrained in Twitch culture at this point, rather than outright remove PogChamp, Twitch has sought to replace it. Starting today (1/8/21), they are, for a time, changing the PogChamp emote every 24hrs, seemingly until they come up with a permanent replacement. The first is the streamer Unroolie, who was possibly the first to tweet a photo of themselves making the Pog expression and suggesting Twitch use their face instead. I'm glad the source of the PogChamp name is such a deep reference, since it made it easy to divorce Gootecks entirely from the meme.
Oh shit, Kenny became a universal emote!?
I thought it was Day[9] suggesting the automatic 24 hour update of the emote: twitter.com/Twitch/status/1347589555197595650
@@RedSntDK Day9 has been involved with a lot of Twitch events and works closely with them; it read more like an alley-oop than a genuine random suggestion he came up with.
@Shaman X Is baby gonna cry
Ayo, Unroolie's a legend! Congrats to him for becoming the first new face of PogChamp!
Hearing Mr. Quinton of QuintonReviews say the word “homestuck” has aged me many years.
I’d like to say that COVID still isn’t over. In 2022 it’s still not over
the homestuck video sounds more like a punishment than a reward
from a pour soul who read the comic, *IT IS*
I read it religiously back in the day, and while the webcomic steadily declined in quality I still would say I overall liked it and I would love to see what Quinton has to say.
@@WASDLeftClick I agree with the quality decrease. I believe that it is because of Hussie hiring ghost writers. The art became better due to the community contributors, though it lost the charm of shitty vector drawings making it look like it was drawn in MS Paint.
@@WASDLeftClick THIS. Was a huge fan, it did so much good for my life and my sister's (Hell, my niece wouldn't exist if two nerds didn't meet in a Homestuck RP forum...) but yeah by the time it ended I just couldn't care
And it.will.be.GLORIOUS!
Imagine first becoming a meme and then becoming whatever the fuck he is now.
Also, hate really ages you.
I mean look at this guy in 2010 and then compare it to now, he looks like he aged 20 years in that time.
“Look at you, so young and happy. Where did the years go?”
It's because people who hate as much as this guy and are super paranoid like him are very stressed out 24/7 which drastically accelerates aging and causes hair loss...which explains a lot lol. It's also why so many white supremacists are skin heads
100% agree, but also.. **2010 was a DECADE AGO** we're all old now
How old was he in 2010? Cause if he went from 27 to 37 then I can buy it.
Dude looks like he fell into a wardrobe and had decades of harrowing adventures XD
did you intentionally call him the "Poggers Face Guy" because you know he hates being called that, because if so, props
He do
also because his actual name wouldn't perform well in metrics lol
@@QuintonReviews Yikes!
@@QuintonReviews daaaamn.
@@QuintonReviews that in itself goes to show how far gootecks fell in popularity
Didn't realize that face was so old, especially considering that I didn't even become aware of it's existence until last year.
Feels weird being part of the small camp in here that knows of Gootecks far more vividly than PogChamp. Everytime I saw that Emote it always surprised me that the guy I watched make Excellent Adventures for years had accidentally produced something that outgrew him and was being used by a vast number of people who didn't even know a single thing about the man or his origins. Not that this is entirely a unique perspective, but I'm not very privvy with Internet culture and it's developements, so it's rare that I'd ever be part of the well informed party for these types of videos that have been flying around over these last few years of RUclips
And by the way Quinton, the main appeal of Excellent Adventures and what brought it tons of attention in the FGC in particular was that it was offline competitors taking their abilities to the online scene and recording the matches for everyone to see. Back then online players were considered a joke, and offline settings were the only credible places to play the game. This stigma meant pretty much all these incredibly skilled players that had been getting results for years never played online, and we rarely ever got to see these two groups clash. So when Mike and Gootecks decided to jump online, we finally got to see just how good they compared to the online crowd. Even though it pretty much confirmed that these offline players were stronger, it was entertaining to see the skill gap in action finally. The average online player got a chance to play these big deal tournament placers, and when some online players started taking games off the boys, even though things like the connection could be used as an excuse, it was encouraging to see that players that only had online as an option could still get good enough to beat the offline talent in any capacity.
All in all, not only did Excellent Adventures ease up on the stigma of fighting games online being a useless commodity, but it also gave people an opportunity to make a name for themselves by beating the alreadly established talent, and some of them became quite popular, even meme'd regularly in the comments. It's pretty commonplace now, but tournament winners weren't bred online, and that show was the first glimpse into the world that's produced so many strong players and 1st placers now, who have humble beginnings of starting off online and getting better in that medium, where a world without that show might've discouraged them from even trying.
I'm gonna miss excellent adventures
Not gonna say I read all of that but I was watching excellent adventures way before twitch and POG became popular.
It was always so mind boggling crazy to me that Gooteks never jumped on the opportunity to grow his brand with The POGGERS emote.. he could’ve literally just became a twitch streamer claimed the POGGERS username and made A LOT of money..
It’s absolutely insane... instead he decides to become some Street fighter 4 teacher?? Wtf?
Back then I knew something about this guys decisions were off besides devoting way too much of their life to SF4.
I really do hope for the best with this guy I feel like his life is missing a lot of balance and as a result it’s in shambles
It honestly breaks my heart to see what Gootecks turned into, I remember devouring every episode of Excellent Adventures and even included the Mike Ross pop-off in a presentation on eSports last semester. Been watching Mike play Dota 2 and he's still pretty much the same charismatic guy but man, Gootecks sure went down an awful path.
This comment deserves more attention! Too bad you can't pin more than one comment...
Excellent adventures was the show that really good me into fighting games. The Gootecks and Mike Ross chemistry simply can't be replicated, although the episodes of Capcom Pro Talk are still worth a watch!
Mental health is overlooked in the USA. I think more funding and acceptance is desperately needed. A lot of these people have mental health issues and need professional help.
As someone with a mental illness, I disagree. Some of these people are just stupid. You don't have to be mentally ill to believe in stupid things. On the same note, people can be mentally ill and still be perfectly reasonable and rational. I do agree that the U.S needs to increase it's acceptance of mental illness and make treatment more accessible. Some of these people, as you said, may be suffering from mental illnesses such as anxiety, depression, mood disorders, paranoia, delusions, etc. So I guess I sort of agree?
While I, someone with mental illness, agree the US really needs better mental health help and acceptance. I don’t think you should see this and go “He’s got mental health problems” because even though it’s possible he does , I think he’s just a *huge* stupid asshole. Some people just are. It’s not always mental issues. So like the commenter above, I agree but also don’t in a way I guess
Yeah, and Carson is another shining example.
@@KingOfGaymes You stated what I was thinking in a much more concise way. Thank you!!!
@@kittye8340 Never compare your mental issues with someone else's. And dont use it as a "measuring unit" to determine how someone else suffering with it, should behave or act.
Mental illness is not a one size fits all.
"No one cared who I was until I put on the "pog" mask"
been gone for awhile. decided to check your channel to see what you've been up to. Glad to see it is still quality content. Keep it up! :)
learned about poggers guy a couple days ago but i truly clicked so fuckin fast
Same ^^ interesting to watch this now
same here lol
I saw it on Lessons from meme culture
omg everyone's face when gootecks starts talking about vaccines
The host got what he asked for, right?
'Got any crazy shit you want to talk about, gootecks?'
'Well, the Bill Gates Foundation.......'
*everyone dies*
@@nickthegun LMAO
They thought it was weirdchamp
@@uncle1273 agreed
How funny is it a bunch of gamers who stare away their existence into meaningless games are unaware of what Bill Gates has done and said about his plans for society. And they think Gootecks is crazy.
It’s honestly hilarious and really sad people look up to these streamers for opinions on life.
You’re looking up to someone whose kinda funny and sits at a computer all day for opinions on how to live your life..
Crazy
The fact Gootecks was such a household name in the FGC and he just consistently devolved into the “Poggers guy” alone is such an intense fall from grace already.
But now the recent fall is just… woah.
I blame corporate consolidation
Gooteks didn't actually devolve into Poggers guy. He still remained a household name in the FGC, the FGC just happens to be a relatively niche community and his Poggers "fame" became much, much larger than that. It was kind of a cool story about a niche guy from the community getting indirect household fame.
And then what happened happened.............sigh
If it weren’t for the camera man
Pog would not have exist
Reject modernity, return to the rage comic "LOL" face.
Lmfao, I’m honestly excited for people to learn that Jim sterling invented “chungus.” I’ve been curious how it went from “jim sterling” thing to “genuinely widespread meme”
As a Jim Sterling fan, I can say I personally used it for years, without context, and even I wasn't 100% sure Jim invented it. It's just a particularly dumb funny word to enter when the video game prompts you to name something. It's something we all like to do, but no one could ever agree on what's the funniest dumb word to go with. Until Chungus
Throttle Kitty I’m still semi-convinced that the “original” big chungus meme was made entirely separately from Jim, and that they aren’t actually connected (that’s almost entirely impossible, but I still maintain it)
@@ThrottleKitty if i remember correctly, chungus was just a dumb word that jim used occasionally.
It feels so weird to see it having a meaning.
Jim Sterling is also single-handedly responsible for Five Nights at Freddy's mere existence. No, really. He did a video bashing the dev's previous game saying the cutesy animals looked like creepy animatronics, and the dev just ran with it.
@@EdenNeedsARUclipsHandle Yup, it really is real interesting to see how some dev react to criticism. Some like Scott Cawthon decide hmm, in that case, i use this to my strength and others like digital homicide just double down on their shittiness.
I have literally never heard someone pronounce "doge" like that. I've heard "doggy", and I've heard "dough-(J-sound)" But never "dodge" with a silent second d.
"dahjz" broke me
Someone had to say it
Thats how its pronounced though
I pronounce it the way Shrek pronounced Donkey
"daw - geyh"
You described the pronunciations so well
Nice one not naming him in the title. He is forever the "PogChamp" guy because he hates only being known for that.
It's weird how everyone is lookin in on this dude now as the pog face guy. When back in the day this dude was super respected in street fighter 4. It's so sad how esport "fame" is really hard to achieve but so quick to go as soon as the new fighting game title comes out.
"....super respected in Street Fighter 4." That's like being super respected for ones ability to play H.O.R.S E at the YMCA.
@@ZDiddy7777 if that's how you want to look at it go ahead my guy. You can say that about any sub culture if your not a fan of it. But it has shown that being good at a video game especially a fighting game can bring in some big money now a days so I would say being respected in those circles definitely means a lot more than it used to
We're seeing a mini-resurgence of UMVC3 recently sort of like how prior Melee players refused to move on to brawl and just kept on playing melee. It all depends on how much the playerbase wants to keep playing 1 game and how much of a trainwreck the new fighting game sequel is
How come he couldn't just transfer over to SFV? Is it that much more different of a game than IV for a competitior? I barely play any SF games beyond just looking at mods so I don't fully notice the difference.
@@thenotoriouspunk23 Oh okay, that does explain it as they would know the mechanics and if they're too different better than anyone. Thanks but that's still unfortunate.
Quinton, I'm the last person Machinima ever hired and I remember the madness during the purging of all their content online, why must you remind me of this? XD glad to see more fallen titans episodes!
*cough**-slight-humble-brag-**cough*
@@carsonarthur4235 only a slight one :'D
was it crazy.....
"Is my research peer reviewed? No, because it seems like none of my peers will review it"
Nutters, but big mood.
Holy fuck as he dictated him saying that I read it at the exact same time.
Didn’t know anything about this situation and genuinely thought the twist was that gooteck raided the capital on January 6th
Hold on... so every time someone said “big chungus” they were basically saying “big chubby anus”? Suddenly, in retrospect, every single Big Chungus meme is 10x funnier.
well, it can mean anything
We told you Big Chungus was funny.
See my pfp
10 x 0 is still 0
To me it's sad because 2009-era Gootecks was an energetic and friendly guy that fell down a conspiratorial rabbit hole with clear mental health issues on top of that
nah, he just finally opened his eyes to the truth
@@skurinski You're trolling, right?
You’re aware of political abuse of the psychiatric system, correct? He’s enlightened, not crazy.
^ Sigh, again, you're trolling right?
@@alyssa09485 pretty sad to see people exist like this
Oh my god, I FINALLY got to know what the hell "poggers" is. But...at what cost...
Same only kids know it
Quinton, you're our pogchamp, please keep making Fallen Titans
I wanna see more fallen titans for sure!
"Gootechs wants to overthrow the United States Government." The fact that this is an unironic, completely truthful statement just perfectly sums up this period of time we're living in.
To be fair, so do I, but mostly to get democracy going again, but also turn the stripes on the flag hot pink.
@@kaydwessie296 agreed, too bad they did it in the name of fascism and against democracy. we live in Weimar America
@@kaydwessie296 i'm thinking a wiggly line kinda design, replace the red with a light cream, spread the stars across the whole thing with a brown colouration and remove the blue square. Just make it look like some kind of delicious desert. ALSO i want to fire all the nukes so we can become radio-anprim
@@galarstar052 I fully endorse a tiramisu looking flag
@Bryan Neblett the flag behind the slaughter
Therapist: Forwards Facing Poggers isn't real, it can't hurt you
Forward Facing Poggers: 1:13
It's actually its own Twitch emote, PogU
Was*
What song is that
@@minceraftfornite4334 For the Damaged Coda
@@ReReCoil thanks g ur a real one
please do more of these I need this series. It has cured my seasonal depression.
Missed Fallen Titans, the intro is honestly good still? The animation is very smooth and the jingle is charming. Another great video on a youtuber I've never seen, but an interesting watch on someone's downfall.
Agreed i love the intro
Me: "Okay, what happened to his life that left it so in ruins, Quinton?"
Quinton: "Competitive Street Fighter-"
Me: "Say no more"
Why though? There are professionals who are still successful, even now
@@StevenoftheDead Sounds to me like he couldn't keep up with the next iteration (SF 5), so he dipped out but regretted it
i don’t really feel especially conflicted about the pogchamp meme, it’s ten years separated from the actor, he hates it, and i honestly expect it’ll fall out of my vocabulary in a few months as memes do. it’s just sort of a weird shrug of a dilemma, i guess.
Dude...... this video was pogchampwithmask. No but on a serious note the break down at the end was on the fkn nail. Good shit man, seriously
I used to watch the Excellent Adventures of Gootecks and Mike Ross every week. The fighting game community aside of Smash bros is pretty small compared to gaming as a whole so they were a relatively well known duo within the FGC. Following the falling out between the two we saw the shift of Gootecks toward his conspiracy theory ideals and kind of left him by the wayside. In my opinion it's kind of saddening that he'll only be remembered as the "Poggers" guy when he meant so much more to people in the FGC before he, you know, kinda went crazy
Simple explanation: Gootecks was fully taken over by the Satsui No Hado
Edit: I can’t read a single Gootecks political tweet without mentally picturing that meme picture of Shawn Michaels confused out of his mind while trying to operate a computer
That's a solid explanation. Maybe he'll go full Kage and split from the darkness to get back to his old self.
I'm an Evil Gootecks main
@@A-1-Sawce I think you mean Poge :y
*slow clap*
who?
Mike's anger was an act. He left because he got exhausted trying to keep up that persona.
No
@@smogblazer4509 n-no?
@@appol2584 he is truly brain-damaged. Any sane person would leave normally
@@smogblazer4509 eh, I guess that makes sense
So long pog champ
i hope the homestuck video will actually happen, now that the icarly/victorious saga seems to have concluded
"I accidentally purchased 200 plushies of myself" that's the level of self destructive recklessness I aspire to achieve.
This comment will probably be missed, but it was known for years in the more dedicated FGC that Gootecks was a big-time drug user. Several times when he came on to do commentary for fighting game tournament streams it was pretty obvious that he was either stoned or coked up. Fighting game tournaments in general, especially the smaller ones (
That explains quite a bit
That’s so sad. I hope Gootecks gets the help he needs.
"He appeared to" -> Idk man, trust me. Comment ignored.
@@llewliet4021 Bro people don't go through that dramatic of a physical change in 10 years without some kind of substance abuse or other unhealthy lifestyle
@@llewliet4021 who are you quoting
I've met Gootecks a handful of times and we would say hi to each other in passing and I was a big fan of a lot of his early work. Seeing his downfall really fucking sucks