we’ve hit a pinnacle in NV / FLIR etc where costs are measured by competition. It’s exciting that the costs are starting to fall for some really superb NV.
I have always wanted to know that. I'm proud of myself for accurately guessing some of the procedures and work environment necessary to work on nods. I was a little off but not by much.
Love this! Looking all over now to pick up myself a image tube, and a Carson house to build my own PVS 14. Just don’t know where to look when trying to find the image intensifier
You should watch this instead. Much better video and he speaks throughout and gives you a lot of invaluable information if you've never built NODS before. ruclips.net/video/vSumk0HeNqc/видео.html
Do you normally use a torque driver with the housing screws, or just go by feel? And did you change gloves after greasing the objective lens threads? I didn't see that on camera and was concerned about you getting grease all over the optical surfaces.
@@georgeecheverri5452 Check out night vision 101 on FB. Members there post tubes up for sale regularly. Currently there is one guy selling 11769 tubes ranging from 800 to 1100.
Could Argon be used to purge optics such as this, or would it be an inferior or ineffective purging gas? I ask because it seems you'd have no reason to worry about the gas escaping if it were the purging gas, since argon is heavier than air.
I know this is an old comment and I may be speaking from a point of ignorance, but wouldn't an argon gas leak in your face be very dangerous or even lethal? Wouldn't nitrogen be a better purging gas?
in theory argon would be just as good as nitrogen there may be some expansion issues or something with it due to it being pretty heavy relative to air although i think the nitrogen purging is mostly to remove the oxygen so it may just be the cheapest option.
www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/04/05/friday-night-lights-diy-build-your-own-night-vision-pvs-14/ TFB has an article on it. kinda like budget tools and do it at your own risk, but if careful enough it can be done.
Definitely earned a new sub here!! Awesome video, but my question is where did you get the nifty little tools you used in this video for tightening up everything internally and the nitrogen purging equipment? I have an older pvs14 that needs some parts changed out but I have never ventured into doing it on my own and want to be sure to do it all correct and precise so any information would be greatly appreciated! Thank you for sharing!!
The socket type retaining ring tools are not easily available from what I've seen, but you can use a Camera Lens wrench instead, and I bought one recently to take apart my own Monocular (not an PVS-14 though) since I didn't want to damage the retaining rings by using a screwdriver etc. Here's the link for the one I bought from Amazon. www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00J5F6ZI2 Also in place of a proper Nitrogen purge kit you can use Nitrogen based wine preserver in a compressed air can, as long as it's Dry Nitrogen then is fine, also some people use Argon from a welding bottle as being heavier than air it forces the air out of the space within the monocular and replaces it with argon (it's the air that causes the condensation inside in places of high humidity, hot to cold environments). www.iwawine.com/wine-accessories-iwa/wine-openers-and-preservation/wine-preservation-systems
are all 18mm IIT's compatible between PVS-7 and PVS-14 bodies? I'm curious, because I've seen some "affordable" PVS-14 bodies for around the 500$ mark, and personally, I wouldn't mind throwing an older Gen2+ 18mm tube in it, but I also like the PVS-7 (though I haven't seen any bodies for those) Are there other cheaper 18mm IIT's say from russia or china that will work with PVS-7/14 bodies? I know there's a ton of elitists out there, I've used Gen3+ and I know how good it is, but I've also used older Gen2+ stuff and for what I need I think Gen2 will suffice *IF the price is right*
@@Munky332 no, they are not... pvs7 tubes are non inverting, and the 14 tubes have inversion... so you'd be looking at everything flipped both horizontally and vertically
That entirely depends on if you can find the parts at a cheap enough price. You save a couple hundred dollars usually. This may or may not be worthwhile if you end up with crappy intensifiers that are blemished, or you want the warranty that a prebuilt device offers.
How do you know which are defects on the tube and what is dirt from assembly? I started off with a super clean surface and everything, including aluminum foil but because of the fit and finish nothing fit without lots of attempts and manipulation so before you know it shit was flying everywhere
@@MyMd1111 nvm, I was thinking of something else. Although you can purge with a canned air duster, see in this forum thread: www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Is_purging_a_PVS_14_necessary_/18-456825/?#i4487686
I broke mine too, the device will still function without the auto-off/on cable. Also it's probably not worth replacing, the auto off/on feature doesn't work well at all. I wouldn't trust the feature to protect my tube.
I was able to get my anpvs14 with nearly perfect MX60 gen3 tube for total of $1070ish with tax. The pvs14 is almost an outright buy at anytime at various prices...but the tube is what kills you. I've waited almost 10 months just to be able to find a right one at a right price.
@@bolshoibooze8010 How much did you pay for everything? where did you get them, ebay? I'm just starting to look into building. Also, any sources for PVS-7 bodies? I'm looking for budget early Gen3/late Gen2+ stuff. I've used Gen3+ stuff, and I know its capabilities, but for my needs I don't really need it unless the price is right.
Nitrogen purge is not completely necessary. The device will function without the Nitrogen. But with the Nitrogen Purge, it will remove any humidity build up inside the device and will also act as an anti-fog for the lenses.
If you really are on a budget your best bet might be to make connections and try and source a used one. Make sure to get as much info on a tube before you buy. Sadly 3k is around the average these will go for at retail price. I just bought an MX11769 OMNI VII for $800, but that is a pretty rare deal. Luckily, as with most things, knowledge of the market and patience are a partial substitute for wealth.
@@garyj449 If you are still looking for a tube, considering joining the night vision subreddit's Discord Server. Just ask around for image intensifiers. Got my MX11769 Omni 7 at $1100 from one of the users.
@@MG-kd2df Thanks. I'll definitely do that. Trying to figure out if I do a build or just save and bite the bullet on dtnvgs or 31s. Realistically I'll be spending at minimum 5k anyways to include Atpial or dbal.
Part of it is demand (few people are in the market for night vision as opposed to say a cell phone), the other part is that it is difficult to produce perfect devices every time. So a bunch are made and then sorted for quality. Consequentially it costs much more to build a good one.
we’ve hit a pinnacle in NV / FLIR etc where costs are measured by competition. It’s exciting that the costs are starting to fall for some really superb NV.
Like which? Can you recommend any I can get to Canada? It'll be my first tube looking for white phosphorus maybe autogated to mount on an exfil helmet
FED@@steyrz619
With crap led IR illuminators. Not impressed!
I have always wanted to know that. I'm proud of myself for accurately guessing some of the procedures and work environment necessary to work on nods. I was a little off but not by much.
Love this! Looking all over now to pick up myself a image tube, and a Carson house to build my own PVS 14. Just don’t know where to look when trying to find the image intensifier
You should watch this instead. Much better video and he speaks throughout and gives you a lot of invaluable information if you've never built NODS before.
ruclips.net/video/vSumk0HeNqc/видео.html
Do you normally use a torque driver with the housing screws, or just go by feel?
And did you change gloves after greasing the objective lens threads? I didn't see that on camera and was concerned about you getting grease all over the optical surfaces.
It’s clean grease. Ha
Thank you YT algorithm. I’m gonna try sourcing parts to make my first tube 🟢
Any luck on finding the tube? I’ve been looking everywhere and they’re asking crazy prices!
@@georgeecheverri5452 Check out night vision 101 on FB. Members there post tubes up for sale regularly. Currently there is one guy selling 11769 tubes ranging from 800 to 1100.
Could Argon be used to purge optics such as this, or would it be an inferior or ineffective purging gas? I ask because it seems you'd have no reason to worry about the gas escaping if it were the purging gas, since argon is heavier than air.
I would believe so yes,
I know this is an old comment and I may be speaking from a point of ignorance, but wouldn't an argon gas leak in your face be very dangerous or even lethal? Wouldn't nitrogen be a better purging gas?
Random argon is not toxic it is inert. It is used as shielding gas for welding.
in theory argon would be just as good as nitrogen there may be some expansion issues or something with it due to it being pretty heavy relative to air although i think the nitrogen purging is mostly to remove the oxygen so it may just be the cheapest option.
Is it more cost effective/practical to build your own NV device?
It’s cheaper
Somewhat.
How necessary are those specialty tools and where can you find them?
Following
www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/04/05/friday-night-lights-diy-build-your-own-night-vision-pvs-14/
TFB has an article on it. kinda like budget tools and do it at your own risk, but if careful enough it can be done.
did you ever find out?
Where can I purchase a purge station like that?
Id be interested to know what it costs to manufacture one of those image intensifier tubes.
previous intensifier tube got fried?
i would imagine this was a new housing and new tube and the 2 parts have to come together at some stage.
Ok, do you sell the tools?
Where do I buy the grey part in the purge line featured at 6:23 in the video?
Definitely earned a new sub here!! Awesome video, but my question is where did you get the nifty little tools you used in this video for tightening up everything internally and the nitrogen purging equipment? I have an older pvs14 that needs some parts changed out but I have never ventured into doing it on my own and want to be sure to do it all correct and precise so any information would be greatly appreciated! Thank you for sharing!!
did you ever find out what the tools are called?
The socket type retaining ring tools are not easily available from what I've seen, but you can use a Camera Lens wrench instead, and I bought one recently to take apart my own Monocular (not an PVS-14 though) since I didn't want to damage the retaining rings by using a screwdriver etc.
Here's the link for the one I bought from Amazon.
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00J5F6ZI2
Also in place of a proper Nitrogen purge kit you can use Nitrogen based wine preserver in a compressed air can, as long as it's Dry Nitrogen then is fine, also some people use Argon from a welding bottle as being heavier than air it forces the air out of the space within the monocular and replaces it with argon (it's the air that causes the condensation inside in places of high humidity, hot to cold environments).
www.iwawine.com/wine-accessories-iwa/wine-openers-and-preservation/wine-preservation-systems
@@mr.not.so.perfect.666 what night vision monocular did you buy?
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are all 18mm IIT's compatible between PVS-7 and PVS-14 bodies?
I'm curious, because I've seen some "affordable" PVS-14 bodies for around the 500$ mark, and personally, I wouldn't mind throwing an older Gen2+ 18mm tube in it, but I also like the PVS-7 (though I haven't seen any bodies for those)
Are there other cheaper 18mm IIT's say from russia or china that will work with PVS-7/14 bodies? I know there's a ton of elitists out there, I've used Gen3+ and I know how good it is, but I've also used older Gen2+ stuff and for what I need I think Gen2 will suffice *IF the price is right*
Where are you finding those $500 PSV-14 bodies? TIA
@@ezdeezytube Ebay, they fluctuate. Recently they're up in price, between 650-750.
@@Munky332 no, they are not... pvs7 tubes are non inverting, and the 14 tubes have inversion... so you'd be looking at everything flipped both horizontally and vertically
@@Bull_10RR yea I found that out after I made the post. The amount of info out there is spotty.
@@Munky332 theres a complete kit on there now everything but the II fot 850
And what does a build like this cost?
Where are you getting these parts?
@ultimatenightvision is there a cost difference?
how should we perform a purge and inert gas flood? can we just buy the specialty adapter?
Do you save money buy building PCs 14s vs buying them put together
That entirely depends on if you can find the parts at a cheap enough price. You save a couple hundred dollars usually. This may or may not be worthwhile if you end up with crappy intensifiers that are blemished, or you want the warranty that a prebuilt device offers.
From where does one buy an image intensifier tube?
Is there a good way to clean tube lenses?
Is there a oring seal on the bztteryhousing ?
Hello to all, any luck on finding a good price for MX-11769?
Ive been searching with no luck
Will PVS-14 still function if the
auto-off" flex circuit is cut/ not connected?
Late, but yes it will still function. I know because I accidentally broke my auto-off ribbon cable.
@@MG-kd2df thank you
With the 3d printing techniques now days. Im surprised someone isn't making conversion kits or retrofit kits to utilize PVS7 tubes.
Because Night Vision isn't that simple.
@@randomstuff-phantom4883 the housing is from what I understand
@@KullyKiat I think the issues is with if the tube is a different size all the optics would be messed up
There's some Chinese made AGM Wolf 14 looking kit that does that
How do you know which are defects on the tube and what is dirt from assembly? I started off with a super clean surface and everything, including aluminum foil but because of the fit and finish nothing fit without lots of attempts and manipulation so before you know it shit was flying everywhere
Does anyone have an Idea where to buy the nitrogen purging equipment for a good price?
There are many places that will purge it for you if you are only doing one.
@@bones2430 in Germany?
@@MyMd1111 nvm, I was thinking of something else. Although you can purge with a canned air duster, see in this forum thread: www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Is_purging_a_PVS_14_necessary_/18-456825/?#i4487686
@@MyMd1111 nighttec
nightvisionuniverse.com/products/n-vision-optics-nvac-124-night-vision-purge-kit-with-waterproof-storage-case
Is the adhesive necessary to add on tube lockring? Is it enough recoil proof without it?
Does anyone have parts list for perging nitrogen into a pvs system.
What does that nitrogen do?
Unintentional ASMR
Do you work on them . I am looking for someone to work on mine
So the pvs 14 on WISH is the same thing?
do _not_ buy a PVS-14 on Wish
@@douglasmurillo1071 $100 Super elite special forces night vision goggle PVS-14 PVS-31, is a no go?
i broke the flex cable for the auto on/off that goes to the pins on the chassis, will it work without and is this worth replacing or fixing?
I broke mine too, the device will still function without the auto-off/on cable. Also it's probably not worth replacing, the auto off/on feature doesn't work well at all. I wouldn't trust the feature to protect my tube.
How much cheaper exactly?
What's the cost of build vs buying one outright ?
I was able to get my anpvs14 with nearly perfect MX60 gen3 tube for total of $1070ish with tax. The pvs14 is almost an outright buy at anytime at various prices...but the tube is what kills you. I've waited almost 10 months just to be able to find a right one at a right price.
@@bolshoibooze8010 How much did you pay for everything? where did you get them, ebay? I'm just starting to look into building. Also, any sources for PVS-7 bodies? I'm looking for budget early Gen3/late Gen2+ stuff. I've used Gen3+ stuff, and I know its capabilities, but for my needs I don't really need it unless the price is right.
@@bolshoibooze8010 where did you source the tube?
Hello, Is it possible to install such an amplifier tube on a gs1x20 pulsar?
I think its not the same tube size
Just a reminder to myself that no, I can’t afford this.
how to make the purchase?
This might be a stupid question, but can you change a gen 1 tube to a gen 2?
Yes, I think so, but the tube is the most expensive part.
No, the housings and tubes are incompatible with each other.
You cant upgrade the tube itself, but if you are somehow running a gen 1 in a pvs14 you can swap it out for a gen 2 no problem.
Almost, but not quite.
Ok I was worried we were paying 3k for 3 wires and 4 screws.
@@clintbeastwood3245 Set screw for the objective lens it seems
So i need a freaking purging system fuck that
Do you need to purge the unit if all you are doing is replacing the battery housing?
Yes you do.
Nitrogen purge is not completely necessary. The device will function without the Nitrogen. But with the Nitrogen Purge, it will remove any humidity build up inside the device and will also act as an anti-fog for the lenses.
If anyone knows where I can source an MX11769 tube lmk. I found one place that wanted 3k for a gen 3 filmed green...
If you really are on a budget your best bet might be to make connections and try and source a used one. Make sure to get as much info on a tube before you buy. Sadly 3k is around the average these will go for at retail price. I just bought an MX11769 OMNI VII for $800, but that is a pretty rare deal. Luckily, as with most things, knowledge of the market and patience are a partial substitute for wealth.
@@Ashley-1917 Yeah. I'm just tryin to find one. At 3k it's almost cheaper to buy a pvs 14 than to try and build.
@@garyj449 If you are still looking for a tube, considering joining the night vision subreddit's Discord Server. Just ask around for image intensifiers. Got my MX11769 Omni 7 at $1100 from one of the users.
@@MG-kd2df Thanks. I'll definitely do that. Trying to figure out if I do a build or just save and bite the bullet on dtnvgs or 31s. Realistically I'll be spending at minimum 5k anyways to include Atpial or dbal.
Imagine thinking your workspace is clean with only a single face wipe with alcohol....
So why do these cost around $2500? If the housing was titanium i would kind of understand
Part of it is demand (few people are in the market for night vision as opposed to say a cell phone), the other part is that it is difficult to produce perfect devices every time. So a bunch are made and then sorted for quality. Consequentially it costs much more to build a good one.
All of the cost is in the tube. The housing and glass is like $800. Night vision tubes are very expensive.
Titanium sounds like neck strain
@@716Bandits Titanium is much less dense than steel. It would be much less neck strain. Part of the reason rhino II mounts are titanium.
@@Ashley-1917 ah thank you, i was unaware
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