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  • Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
  • Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy, James Jones and Ric Bucher debate whether Luka Dončić is to blame for the Dallas Mavericks' 106-99 Game 3 loss to the Boston Celtics. While he finished with 27 points, he fouled out with just over four minutes remaining in the fourth quarter. They then discuss whether the NBA Finals has proven Jaylen Brown is the Celtics' best player or not. Brown is averaging 24 PPG off 55 percent shooting, while Jayson Tatum is averaging 22 PPG (36 percent shooting).
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  • @SpeakOnFS1
    @SpeakOnFS1  3 месяца назад +20

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    • @OCHO-di9to
      @OCHO-di9to 3 месяца назад +1

      Y'all succ Boston made y'all look like you should find a new line of work 😂😂😂😂🍀🍀🍀🍀💪🏽💪🏽🏆

    • @openranks4519
      @openranks4519 3 месяца назад +1

      Jaylen Brown can never be a #1 option on any nba team!

    • @RedLeo-pf9yo
      @RedLeo-pf9yo 3 месяца назад +1

      Show me where Luca is not giving effort on defense !!! I’ll wait….

    • @RedLeo-pf9yo
      @RedLeo-pf9yo 3 месяца назад

      Show me where Luca is not giving effort on defense !!! I’ll wait….

    • @RedLeo-pf9yo
      @RedLeo-pf9yo 3 месяца назад

      The best player on Boston Celtics is Drew Holiday !!!!!!

  • @mrpogz
    @mrpogz 3 месяца назад +418

    all media doing this "sorry celtics" episode... 🤣🤣

    • @dwanewarner7632
      @dwanewarner7632 3 месяца назад +4

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Theantisocialsocialite1982
      @Theantisocialsocialite1982 3 месяца назад +2

      Yup 😂😂😂

    • @Irize11
      @Irize11 3 месяца назад +15

      😂😂😂 I been going to all these shows to see them saying sorry

    • @gamadahussein6663
      @gamadahussein6663 3 месяца назад +2

      Lmao the Celtics were favored pretty much all season long. Wtf are you talking about?

    • @macalloway1
      @macalloway1 3 месяца назад +20

      ​@@gamadahussein6663 yeah but after they beat Minnesota most people pick mavs and there was a lot of mavs in 5 talk

  • @squalie9
    @squalie9 3 месяца назад +310

    Can't believe all these fools chose the mavs of all teams. One of the thinnest rosters in finals history against one of the deepest rosters in history.

    • @LajaHiggins
      @LajaHiggins 3 месяца назад +4

      Word.

    • @DarrellMosely
      @DarrellMosely 3 месяца назад +39

      They picked with their hearts, not from Basketball logic. Media pushing the Luka and then Kyrie redemption narrative.

    • @RUTHLESSambition5
      @RUTHLESSambition5 3 месяца назад +32

      They wanted Luka to be Larry Bird so bad😂😂😂He isn't that guy. He is James Harden 3.0

    • @dyeyser
      @dyeyser 3 месяца назад +5

      Because they're causals who don't know any better.

    • @acephas3
      @acephas3 3 месяца назад +4

      Nah, I wanted Kyrie to shut his critics’ mouths shut.

  • @jowaynecounsell1238
    @jowaynecounsell1238 3 месяца назад +188

    Bruh Boston fans don't care which one is better only the media care.

    • @LLSRT
      @LLSRT 3 месяца назад +28

      On god we dont care at all😂but with that being said JT is a top 6-7 NBA Player so that means if they all think JB is better then we have 2 Top 5 NBA Players right?🤷🏾😂😂😂

    • @kyleharrison713
      @kyleharrison713 3 месяца назад +2

      Ya'll were shitting on Tatum just one game ago, Nick Wright was at the game and confirmed it. You do care, just not today cuz you're up big which makes you a front runner.

    • @noahlevere1914
      @noahlevere1914 3 месяца назад +6

      Love em both hope they both retire in Boston

    • @LLSRT
      @LLSRT 3 месяца назад +5

      @@kyleharrison713 no only People that were shitting on Tatum were the media and fans of other teams AKA the usual dickriders😭All Cs fans know JT has been running the show for us this whole series despite his shooting efficiency 💯

    • @juliandavis6140
      @juliandavis6140 3 месяца назад +6

      @@kyleharrison713Shut up. You have no idea what you’re talking about. First of all, not every Celtics fan has the same perspective. Secondly, they’re both about to be under contract for a while and you’re not going to come across any Celtics fan who isn’t grateful to have both of them. One has made 3 straight 1st team all-NBA, the other completely dominated playoffs. Who would make an issue out of having two players that are so good that everyone has to debate which of the two is better? I hope they both keep improving and driving that debate while they win more championships.

  • @SkullEZClap
    @SkullEZClap 3 месяца назад +396

    Celtics made this whole show take a massive L 😂

    • @Jimmy-n2e
      @Jimmy-n2e 3 месяца назад +3

      Deion sanders did lol they picked him every week to win he lost then still had a nerve to call him the best coach in college football 🤣 shows a joke

    • @senchodaroola1of1
      @senchodaroola1of1 3 месяца назад +2

      Most shows!! I’m tripping that these are top level analyst and journalist of the sports world. I don’t even think they believe that was going to happen.

    • @SphinxMen1906
      @SphinxMen1906 3 месяца назад +3

      All the shows really

    • @hfd79e4r
      @hfd79e4r 3 месяца назад +2

      All these shows!!

    • @jeromepowell1873
      @jeromepowell1873 3 месяца назад

      The whole show, even Rick.

  • @v60polestar88
    @v60polestar88 3 месяца назад +109

    Why is it so hard for them to just admit Boston is the better team. All the talking in circles about Luka to avoid admitting Boston beat them 8 straight for a reason

    • @jamesjackson9549
      @jamesjackson9549 3 месяца назад +15

      And that is what a shame. They're not humble enough to admit when they're wrong it's only a game it's only a series

    • @invalidletterdept2662
      @invalidletterdept2662 3 месяца назад +5

      Boston has owned Dallas and kyrie for a while now, game 1 blowout and they still were confident in the mavs. Two more losses later and look how reluctant they are to give any credit to Boston.

    • @shannonsmith7634
      @shannonsmith7634 3 месяца назад +1

      They have to make their pick look valid 😂😂 Mavs were everybody's favorite so now they have to choose somebody to blame instead of saying "I was wrong about boston"

    • @reneapalit64
      @reneapalit64 3 месяца назад

      CLOWNS ! 🤡😂

    • @86Sentra
      @86Sentra 3 месяца назад +1

      Celtics are boring to media. The Jays are too laid back. Both superstars tho imo. Same reason why wnba is “ poppin”

  • @verifiedwill
    @verifiedwill 3 месяца назад +209

    Analysts look stupid now😂

    • @slytoe44
      @slytoe44 3 месяца назад

      Straight ignant sh*t

    • @MeBihhhh
      @MeBihhhh 3 месяца назад

      They always look stupid

    • @LajaHiggins
      @LajaHiggins 3 месяца назад +6

      They sure do but at least Jones try to switch up.

    • @loststoryproductions
      @loststoryproductions 3 месяца назад

      Now? Lol

    • @mw-sl9vo
      @mw-sl9vo 3 месяца назад +1

      these "experts" lol

  • @crypto_thug9218
    @crypto_thug9218 3 месяца назад +117

    Media tried to split the jays when they were 22 and 23 and they are one win away from a chip. Ppl was clowning jaylen for the big contract all offseason

    • @chrisranger2370
      @chrisranger2370 3 месяца назад +7

      Facts

    • @RyGuy2777
      @RyGuy2777 3 месяца назад +6

      For real bro this title gonna feel sweeter than bustin in the wife🏆☘️

    • @jusbertmeza4424
      @jusbertmeza4424 3 месяца назад +3

      Because they are casuals. As a laker fan JB is the all around better player but they try so hard to make people accept JT is the best player

    • @jusbertmeza4424
      @jusbertmeza4424 3 месяца назад +3

      Because they are casuals. As a laker fan JB is the all around better player but they try so hard to make people accept JT is the best player

    • @Almighty5-ww1kl
      @Almighty5-ww1kl 3 месяца назад +4

      @@jusbertmeza4424JT is the better player , the narrative is JB better , let JB get doubled as much as JT does

  • @mydreaminorbit9297
    @mydreaminorbit9297 3 месяца назад +75

    So much emphasis on finals MVP over getting an NBA championship is funny. As a Celtics fan, it just feels good to have the jays.

  • @fredilly
    @fredilly 3 месяца назад +473

    one of few jobs in the world where you get paid to be wrong

    • @bevanhartley4090
      @bevanhartley4090 3 месяца назад +28

      To be fair, if you and I had to make a pick for our job, we would be wrong at times as well. A pick is a guess, it's not like getting an objective answer wrong in an exam or a calculation.

    • @sheltmoore8210
      @sheltmoore8210 3 месяца назад +24

      Weathermen

    • @KennethWilliams-v9l
      @KennethWilliams-v9l 3 месяца назад +13

      Well if you can’t name a media member who hasn’t been wrong shut up. If they should be fired because they were wrong there would be no media

    • @MeBihhhh
      @MeBihhhh 3 месяца назад +25

      Weatherman, police man, construction worker, lawyer, judge, doctors etc…there are a ton of jobs where you get paid to be wrong kiddo

    • @education654321
      @education654321 3 месяца назад

      ?

  • @leeblack2103
    @leeblack2103 3 месяца назад +119

    I love that all y’all are wrong about the Celtics

  • @Ckearney88
    @Ckearney88 3 месяца назад +87

    I need y'all to send in y'all resignation letters for not picking the best team since the season started for idiotic reasons

    • @dahbajanman7044
      @dahbajanman7044 3 месяца назад +10

      How hard was it to choose the team with 5 players who can play defense and 5 players shooting the 3 ball?

    • @hellaiv
      @hellaiv 3 месяца назад

      Their eyes lied to them but numbers don’t. Cs have been great all year statistically yet these analysts which should base their takes on factual data instead of fairy tales keep coming up wrong.

    • @BamXBam97
      @BamXBam97 3 месяца назад

      @@dahbajanman70448 players that shoot 3s* which is even more damming

    • @kant5696
      @kant5696 3 месяца назад +2

      @@dahbajanman7044because everyone wants to be the one to say “i was right about my underdog pick” and go against the grain. That way if said underdog wins they look like a genius and will never stop bragging about it for their entire career

    • @torrethomas6642
      @torrethomas6642 3 месяца назад

      💯💯

  • @charlesknight7019
    @charlesknight7019 3 месяца назад +54

    Jj is the most logical person on this show. Every one else has ulterior motives

  • @bernyourhart
    @bernyourhart 3 месяца назад +26

    The Luka fanboys who were saying how much better Luka was than Dirk are looking silly.

    • @MadMan-vs2mc
      @MadMan-vs2mc 3 месяца назад +5

      He is better than dirk look at the numbers. You act like dirk didn't lose his first finals also.

    • @ICYMIINMIY
      @ICYMIINMIY 3 месяца назад +2

      So if Dirk and Luka were in a draft, you’re saying you’d take Dirk before Luka?

    • @ronaldpatterson1701
      @ronaldpatterson1701 3 месяца назад +2

      Unfortunately, he is better than Dirk and Dirk was that guy... but he's gotten the mavs to the finals at an earlier age with a lesser team.

  • @dmarrionwolfe4718
    @dmarrionwolfe4718 3 месяца назад +31

    Dude jaylen brown has stepped up in a big way he deserves the recognition

    • @1trainerthe187
      @1trainerthe187 3 месяца назад +4

      MVP

    • @PeterJesse-j1l
      @PeterJesse-j1l 3 месяца назад +2

      Jayson Tatum is better

    • @1trainerthe187
      @1trainerthe187 3 месяца назад +1

      @user-zz8gn2yx3x Super man vs Batman 🫡

    • @TarikMegie-Maddrey
      @TarikMegie-Maddrey 3 месяца назад +2

      Sorry to say and I’m from Boston, but every finals we get to Brown has been clutch and Tatum is iffy…

  • @crose5748
    @crose5748 3 месяца назад +33

    Brown and Tatum are the foundation of the Celtics. People are looking at stats not how they have grown to become teammates. Wednesday Tatum had the first half and Brown took over the second half. From that perspective both matter for different reasons. This is a team sport...

    • @zursmith
      @zursmith 3 месяца назад +9

      Yeah like deciding between Magic and Kareem .. you need both get a clue

    • @crose5748
      @crose5748 3 месяца назад +3

      @@zursmith Yes. It takes time to figure out the dynamics.

    • @TheEmiliopatata
      @TheEmiliopatata 3 месяца назад +2

      U r so right

    • @leonarddoeman735
      @leonarddoeman735 3 месяца назад +2

      I think people are also looking at star status.

    • @crose5748
      @crose5748 3 месяца назад +2

      @@leonarddoeman735That is unfortunate. They miss the beauty of how the individual(s) bece a team. To me that is star status.

  • @obynoomere1280
    @obynoomere1280 3 месяца назад +78

    The media was quick to crown Luka the greatest Mav over Dirk.

    • @MadMan-vs2mc
      @MadMan-vs2mc 3 месяца назад +5

      He is a much better player than dirk. That's clear as day. Luka likes dirk struggles from no help.

    • @travisblair3189
      @travisblair3189 3 месяца назад +30

      ​@@MadMan-vs2mcLies. Don't disrespect the greatness of Dirk, fanboy.

    • @blackanimelover18
      @blackanimelover18 3 месяца назад +4

      I mean, Dirk didn't win anything for a while either. If you compare both of their careers to this point, Luka is clearly better.

    • @albertdaley9093
      @albertdaley9093 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@MadMan-vs2mc🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩

    • @Hibbs4Prez
      @Hibbs4Prez 3 месяца назад

      Absolutely.

  • @jahkrmusic
    @jahkrmusic 3 месяца назад +8

    The problem and reason for this debate is that Brown averages about 5 shots less than JT. So imagine JB's output with JT touches. That's the real debate

  • @justinlong5589
    @justinlong5589 3 месяца назад +32

    Shady tryna diminish JT like he aint getting double teamed out there he makes JBs life easy!!

    • @williewoodard1289
      @williewoodard1289 3 месяца назад

      He’s not getting double teamed this series, he’s the best player but Dallas has not consistently been double teaming anyone on the perimeter only on the drive and they are doing that to everyone not just JT

    • @imhim2444
      @imhim2444 3 месяца назад +13

      ​@williewoodard1289 They blitzed him game 1, soft double team game 2, zone game 3. Noticed how Tatum's game changed when the Mavs defense changed. Game 3 it was 1v1 and that's why Tatum dropped 31 with less assist and rebounds because he didn't need to focus on that. And I'm not discrediting Brown by any means. However, the defensive looks towards Tatum compared to Brown is not the same this series, and it has been blatant. If You can't see it.... I got nothing

    • @justinlong5589
      @justinlong5589 3 месяца назад

      @@imhim2444 exactly my point!+

    • @brandoisrael3155
      @brandoisrael3155 3 месяца назад +1

      @@imhim2444yup JB is not getting the defensive looks like Tatum is getting.

    • @kenriccoleman7171
      @kenriccoleman7171 3 месяца назад

      @@imhim2444 u know ball

  • @Slay-m1u
    @Slay-m1u 3 месяца назад +33

    This whole Panel called it wrong

    • @Alr1ghtyThen
      @Alr1ghtyThen 3 месяца назад

      I think they were just hoping it would be a better series. A sweep in the finals is boring af

    • @2Good2BeTrue45
      @2Good2BeTrue45 3 месяца назад +2

      Uh no, majority of the media are haters of the Celtics. They are envious of their championships but are more than ok with the Lakers due to it being California.​@@Alr1ghtyThen

  • @Vibelounge_
    @Vibelounge_ 3 месяца назад +32

    Shady so salty it’s so funny lol

  • @KiLlACaMrOn94
    @KiLlACaMrOn94 3 месяца назад +22

    Paul Pierce won FMVP with KG as the best player.

  • @traecraig389
    @traecraig389 3 месяца назад +114

    Three football guys talking nba finals is cringe asf

    • @dwanewarner7632
      @dwanewarner7632 3 месяца назад +2

      Makes sense y they are backtracking now and the mavs were supposed to that test we didn't have😂😂😂😂

    • @eddievargas704
      @eddievargas704 3 месяца назад

      Watch boy, watch like a good virgin

    • @j.loutheartist4966
      @j.loutheartist4966 3 месяца назад +6

      It's not so much that it's football players that's talking about basketball... it's that they just don't know what they're talking about lol

    • @theenlightmentchannel3842
      @theenlightmentchannel3842 3 месяца назад

      I was thinking the same

    • @shadymaestro
      @shadymaestro 3 месяца назад

      You sound stupid

  • @1trainerthe187
    @1trainerthe187 3 месяца назад +7

    Boston Celtics has 3 players that can come off the bench and score double digits anytime is Pritchard, Horford, Hauser and starters score double digits on a regular 😅

  • @emilem12
    @emilem12 3 месяца назад +15

    The fact that all 4 chose Mavs is hilarious 😂

    • @Rockstarleni
      @Rockstarleni 3 месяца назад

      Dam all said mavs is wild

  • @ryankraut9496
    @ryankraut9496 3 месяца назад +12

    You got non basketball players talking about basketball. Jaylen Brown isn’t the #1 option against a defense. Tatum is double team constantly so you can’t compare until Brown is a #1 against defenses

    • @marman3382
      @marman3382 3 месяца назад +2

      He has been double all series that shows you haven’t been watching

    • @Chrism7178
      @Chrism7178 3 месяца назад

      @@marman3382 Stop lying... Gaslighting..

    • @cvgodd1432
      @cvgodd1432 18 дней назад

      @@marman3382no he hasn’t lol, I checked. Tatum got doubled 3 times more 😂. Mavs whole game plan on defense was for Tatum. Y’all see what you want to see

  • @Texansfan437
    @Texansfan437 3 месяца назад +42

    Took you all 3 games to see that Luka footage 😂. Stick to the nfl you all

    • @smk4428
      @smk4428 3 месяца назад +2

      No kidding. He's the king of matador defense. They are mentioning it because you and i are talking about it so they have to acknowledge it now

    • @MadMan-vs2mc
      @MadMan-vs2mc 3 месяца назад

      I mean, I can't blame him. He is tired of running the entire offense. Maybe if his teammates could hit shots, then he would have more energy to play defense. Luka is the only one I won't blame for losing this series. Kyrie and Jason kidd are the reason they lost. Plus, boston just being much deeper than the mavericks.

    • @smk4428
      @smk4428 3 месяца назад

      @@MadMan-vs2mc you have to be one of the dumbest people to ever comment on sports. I have some oceanfront property in Arizona I'd like you to look at.

    • @meechiiee2215
      @meechiiee2215 3 месяца назад +1

      @@MadMan-vs2mcI feel you that Luka really didn’t have no help game 1 and 2 but this game was all on Luka Kyrie was hot on offense and instead of letting him cook and taking a breather to be better defensively Luka would rather force shots, and turnovers, and fouls and then not try at all on defense so yea Luka isn’t the whole problem in this series but as the “superstar” on the team he should be playing wayyyy better

    • @MadMan-vs2mc
      @MadMan-vs2mc 3 месяца назад +1

      @meechiiee2215 it wasn't all on Luke bc he still gave you 27 points. Kyrie finally had a good game, but no one else but them did. Go look at the numbers. Luka is the only reason they are semi competitive.

  • @TonyStark-qk9sj
    @TonyStark-qk9sj 3 месяца назад +20

    I can't believe they were thinking the series was going 7....Ridiculous!

  • @Likeitry
    @Likeitry 3 месяца назад +22

    Does everyone up there not know that Tatum has the record for the most points in a game 7😂

    • @gilbertarballo
      @gilbertarballo 3 месяца назад

      That was in the second round against a choking team that never should've even been in a game 7 Celtics should've beaten the sixers that series in five tbh

    • @youdub7926
      @youdub7926 3 месяца назад

      How many chips he got ?

    • @xSeikooo
      @xSeikooo 3 месяца назад +1

      @@youdub79261 😂

    • @lloydharris651
      @lloydharris651 3 месяца назад +2

      @@youdub79261 now lmaoooo

    • @lloydharris651
      @lloydharris651 3 месяца назад

      @@gilbertarballocry harder

  • @Pats308
    @Pats308 3 месяца назад +12

    Y’all need to give it to the Cs. It’s not that the Mavs played bad, it’s how the Cs made them look like they played bad…for 3 straight games!!!

  • @JordanKane-jk9tk
    @JordanKane-jk9tk 3 месяца назад +11

    Celtics just getting started they are going to get better and better the more they play together that chemistry for next year already got me excited

    • @JC-db7so
      @JC-db7so 3 месяца назад +1

      Yup and once they win and that pressure is gone they are going to be a problem. Can’t underestimate how valuable knowing how to win in the finals really is.

  • @obamacare4811
    @obamacare4811 3 месяца назад +35

    Wonder how the confidence meter is now?

  • @michiganlover12
    @michiganlover12 3 месяца назад +8

    No one argued for Jb to be on team USA and no one was against Tatum being on the team. I rest my case

    • @kimranvitalis6832
      @kimranvitalis6832 3 месяца назад

      Just a bunch of sour loosers.Nit picking to have something n g against the Celtics still.

  • @jasonsalinas3759
    @jasonsalinas3759 3 месяца назад +15

    Surprised joy didn't have the first take for 5 min's like usual,talking like a ex hall of famer 😂

    • @b-gamer340
      @b-gamer340 3 месяца назад

      Facts man. She be looking at James Jones like she knows more than this man smh

  • @scavara
    @scavara 3 месяца назад +21

    Luka doesn’t play defense and it shows in the Finals where everything matters!!

    • @gman4074
      @gman4074 3 месяца назад +3

      Exactly he a white James harden

    • @MadMan-vs2mc
      @MadMan-vs2mc 3 месяца назад

      He is tired. If his teammates could actually step up maybe he would have more energy to play defense.

    • @gman4074
      @gman4074 3 месяца назад +1

      @@MadMan-vs2mc He never played defense stop lying to yourself, he a white james harden. How you tired and you not a two way player, tired from jacking up 3s, cmon.

    • @MadMan-vs2mc
      @MadMan-vs2mc 3 месяца назад

      @@gman4074 he played great defense against. Kawhi, pg, sga, antman, harden.
      LIE AGAIN🤣🤣🤣

    • @IllMatic97
      @IllMatic97 3 месяца назад

      ​@@MadMan-vs2mc "great defense"

  • @loststoryproductions
    @loststoryproductions 3 месяца назад +13

    Why don’t they give Ric a chair? 😂

  • @gottabedaryl
    @gottabedaryl 3 месяца назад +3

    You glazed him so much now you're blaming him. Fun to watch as a Celtics fan 🍿

    • @edelmantoamendola
      @edelmantoamendola 3 месяца назад

      Yeah Jones is the only one not making excuses. Shady is the worst.

  • @A_CoachNamedBrandon
    @A_CoachNamedBrandon 3 месяца назад +9

    Hearing Shady talk basketball is hilarious😂😂😂

  • @Oldmanstillgotit
    @Oldmanstillgotit 3 месяца назад +32

    Dallas scoring less points than Boston was key to the Celtics success against the mavericks

    • @brutubp3738
      @brutubp3738 3 месяца назад +2

      So basically Celtics defense lol give credit gang

    • @Oldmanstillgotit
      @Oldmanstillgotit 3 месяца назад +2

      @@brutubp3738I’m guessing your not fluent in the language of sarcasm ?

    • @naldo389
      @naldo389 3 месяца назад +1

      I’ll do you one better; ( no ditty) the second key was the mavs missing more shots then Celtics

    • @MadMan-vs2mc
      @MadMan-vs2mc 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Oldmanstillgotit celtics fans aren't smart enough to recognize sarcasm.

    • @Oldmanstillgotit
      @Oldmanstillgotit 3 месяца назад +3

      @@MadMan-vs2mc ima Celtics fan smh I’m guessing you lost money on the mavs 😅

  • @waynetables6414
    @waynetables6414 3 месяца назад +5

    Seeing a guy with 5 fouls square up to try and draw a charge 30 seconds after getting his 5th foul had me rolling on the floor. Never seen anything like it

  • @smgriffin1011
    @smgriffin1011 3 месяца назад +5

    JB is a phenomenal player and deserves all the credit he’s been getting. He’s not as good as Tatum. People always suffer from recency bias and forget that even though Tatum is in a shooting slump, he’s making winning plays all over the court. He averaged 30-10-6 in the conference finals and didn’t win MVP. He scored the most points in a game 7 in NBA history last year. He dropped 46 on the road in an elimination game vs Milwaukee in 2022. Brown gets to play one on one because when the defense doubles, it’s always Tatum. And he has been making the right plays over and over in the playoffs. People criticized him for playing hero ball and not winning, and now that he’s playing team ball and winning, he’s being criticized for it. JB is worth every bit of the contract - Tatum is the better player.

    • @JC-db7so
      @JC-db7so 3 месяца назад +2

      JT is a better shooter but JB is a better defender and is better in the post and going to the basket.

    • @TarikMegie-Maddrey
      @TarikMegie-Maddrey 3 месяца назад

      Jt might have the edge in regular season m, but playoffs, JB is always the best. That is when it counts……..

    • @smgriffin1011
      @smgriffin1011 3 месяца назад

      @@TarikMegie-Maddrey Always? JB didn't drop 46 in a road elimination game, and he didn't drop 51 in a game 7. His stats in this year's ECF also weren't as good as Tatum's even though he won MVP. Brown is playing his best on the game's biggest stage, and it's been amazing to watch. That still doesn't mean he's a better player than Tatum.

    • @smgriffin1011
      @smgriffin1011 3 месяца назад

      @@TarikMegie-Maddrey All that being said, it's really a moot point because they're both about to get their first chip while both being around top 10 players in the league. I think they'll both be happy with this season's results no doubt.

    • @cvgodd1432
      @cvgodd1432 15 дней назад

      @@TarikMegie-Maddreywell yea JB doesn’t get shadowed by 4 people on defense so of course he’s more efficient. Y’all don’t see 3 to 4 players facing Tatum when he gets the ball? They don’t do this for JB. Tatum would drop 40 a game if they played him like they play JB

  • @JeffreyOConnell-g4x
    @JeffreyOConnell-g4x 3 месяца назад +14

    You could argue that Jrue Holiday is the series MVP. And that would take nothing away from JT and JB.

  • @EricButler-b1u
    @EricButler-b1u 3 месяца назад +19

    That's not Fair because Tatum is playing a more mature game right now

    • @zacharyroach7947
      @zacharyroach7947 3 месяца назад +4

      I also feel like when the PPG are 24 vs 22 it's hard to say Jaylen Brown is definitively better especially when there is more to the game than just scoring points.

    • @shmid420
      @shmid420 3 месяца назад

      its crazy because everyone was bashing him for ball hogging and taking too many shots, and now that he's being a team player and winning games he's dookie

    • @charlestillie243
      @charlestillie243 3 месяца назад

      Let's face it the Celtics are very good basketball team bottom line and you can put all the rest of that b******* aside

    • @jaliancasey5409
      @jaliancasey5409 3 месяца назад

      @@zacharyroach7947you right there’s defense too and JB has been way better

    • @cvgodd1432
      @cvgodd1432 15 дней назад

      @@jaliancasey5409how if Tatum defensive rating identical to JB? He’s sticking a center and stripped Kyrie! Y’all don’t see Tatum clamping people becuase y’all hate him 😂

  • @guyanaspectator8948
    @guyanaspectator8948 3 месяца назад +13

    These jokers are so clueless..

  • @michiganlover12
    @michiganlover12 3 месяца назад +3

    Jayson is better but Jaylen is more clutch. If brown had to be a playmaker his flaws would be more visible

  • @tribeofjuda
    @tribeofjuda 3 месяца назад +11

    As they say "in basketball, the series doesn't start until a team wins on the opposing team's homecourt".
    Well now this series has finally "started," and ended at the same time.
    LOL!!!!!!!!

  • @drob1978
    @drob1978 3 месяца назад +3

    Shady is a prisoner of the moment JB is having a great post season but JT is the better player. JB makes the specular play, trade JT and see if JB will look the same.

  • @Yoookb
    @Yoookb 3 месяца назад +4

    James the only one on the set with some sense today I see 😂💯

    • @sonseed7541
      @sonseed7541 3 месяца назад +1

      glazing

    • @Yoookb
      @Yoookb 3 месяца назад

      @@sonseed7541 you must of thought the mavs actually had a chance to beat the Celtics huh😂

    • @sonseed7541
      @sonseed7541 3 месяца назад

      @@Yoookb im not a nba fan but i do keep up on the nba so idk ho to anser ur question

    • @sonseed7541
      @sonseed7541 3 месяца назад

      @@Yoookb stop glazing james tho

  • @PrincejayFit
    @PrincejayFit 3 месяца назад +10

    Do the confidence meter now!!!

    • @invalidletterdept2662
      @invalidletterdept2662 3 месяца назад

      Joy still be at a 10 and be like 🗣️I’M STILL ON PACE FOR MAVS IN 7

  • @Holmescourttv165
    @Holmescourttv165 3 месяца назад +2

    JADEN BROWN IS BATMAN.. TATUM IS SPIDERMAN... DREW IS BLACK PANTHER.. DERRICK WHITE IS GREEN LANTERN AND AL HOLFER IS GREEN ARROW..😊

  • @CashMoolah00
    @CashMoolah00 3 месяца назад +5

    Whole panel holding the L this finals they drank the best scoring back court duo BS.

  • @dylanmessina1262
    @dylanmessina1262 3 месяца назад +1

    They work together, against the warriors, people (myself included) were wishing Tatum would stop forcing so much. He’s now taken a step by and been more of a playmaker and teammate rather than a scorer. And he has the convenience of having another great scorer on the team. Tatum has done what the team needs him to do in order to win

  • @Messigoat1033
    @Messigoat1033 3 месяца назад +9

    Yes he is. When they win he gets almost all the credit so when they lose especially with him being non exist at offensively after first Q and defense the whole series he deserve the blame. His body language is just so annoying to watch, crying every play and not playing defense and being poor leader.

    • @gregjross852
      @gregjross852 3 месяца назад

      Naw the Celtics are just a horrible matchup for them and just better. Don’t get think really anyone deserves the blame when your opponent is just better. Series was over when they went up 20 without Porzingas. Mavs need a reliable 3rd option outside of Luka/kyrie.

    • @MadMan-vs2mc
      @MadMan-vs2mc 3 месяца назад

      Nah kyrie is the reason they lost this series. Took him 3 games to finally play decent. Even in the end he still bricked every shot yo lose.

  • @waynemcdaniel7405
    @waynemcdaniel7405 3 месяца назад +2

    And the guy in the sky blue jacket said Boston should break up Tatum & Brown.😅😅😅😅😂

  • @Scambityfactsteam
    @Scambityfactsteam 3 месяца назад +6

    If JB the best player why don’t teams play him like it? As a Celtics fan it’s annoying to even have to pick between the 2 but come on

  • @TheZgraen
    @TheZgraen 3 месяца назад +2

    I'm just blown away how EVERYBODY was picking Dallas! Boston has been the superior team ALL YEAR long!

  • @BarryBlockZay617
    @BarryBlockZay617 3 месяца назад +3

    Joy needs to never talk basketball again.

  • @aivah07
    @aivah07 3 месяца назад +2

    Lmfaooo couldn’t wait for this episode to drop! Hahha y’all were all wrong 😂

  • @Texansfan437
    @Texansfan437 3 месяца назад +6

    Is confidence meter still at 9 😂 admit you all were wrong already please

  • @SuperDunk1000
    @SuperDunk1000 3 месяца назад +2

    How quickly “analysts” forget prior accomplishments when comparing players. Y’all have goldfish memory

  • @easywalters
    @easywalters 3 месяца назад +3

    Acho asks a question and gives a 3 minute speech before allowing the person to answer. Smh

  • @deadmezero8742
    @deadmezero8742 3 месяца назад +2

    These two in brown and Tatum are great with each other. It don't matter who's better I don't want to see their potential egos get in the way and potentially break their on court success.

  • @avokshi2000
    @avokshi2000 3 месяца назад +3

    Shady is 100% correct! Jaylen brown is fmvp and its not even close. Biggest moments, clutchest, best scorer most efficient and best defender guarding other teams best player! Its not even a debate!

  • @bestrong8543
    @bestrong8543 3 месяца назад +56

    Even though James jones picked Dallas to win this series he recanted that after game 2 his perspective is spot on Boston is just a better all around team

    • @user-kt4cg2fn7l
      @user-kt4cg2fn7l 3 месяца назад +19

      It's even funnier 'cause he actually recanted after Game 1.

    • @bayodefashemi9622
      @bayodefashemi9622 3 месяца назад +14

      He used common sense instead of Luka glazing. Shady honestly has been correct in his assment just hates Boston

    • @bestrong8543
      @bestrong8543 3 месяца назад +1

      @@user-kt4cg2fn7l oh my bad game 1 lol

    • @mysteriousj3019
      @mysteriousj3019 3 месяца назад +6

      My thing is before they picked he said that he believed that Boston was the better team, but then picked the Mavs because he liked them more out of the West. Like, yeah, he recanted after game 1, but he ignored his head when he picked the Mavs in the first place lol.

  • @bigbreezyinthecut8207
    @bigbreezyinthecut8207 3 месяца назад +2

    If I recall brown was the better player last time they was in the finals

  • @faustodealmeida3176
    @faustodealmeida3176 3 месяца назад +3

    Lol didn’t all of you choose Dallas? 😂

  • @derekalvarado7185
    @derekalvarado7185 3 месяца назад +1

    Joy is the only person who can talk about on ball pressure let me tell you she is a pro 😊

  • @Messigoat1033
    @Messigoat1033 3 месяца назад +10

    This should be a wake up call for Luka cuz the Celtics just exposed him but forcing him to play defense and not just help defense but actual one vs one defense. He said the NBA was easier than Euro well he shouldn’t be complaining about playoffs basketball where refs don’t call every contest. His lack of athleticism and defense was exploited which made his offense to slowly dissaper cuz he is out of shape and isn’t fit enough to play both sides.

    • @ICYMIINMIY
      @ICYMIINMIY 3 месяца назад

      The Celtics aren’t exposing Luka. In fact their game plan is the exact opposite: and that’s to let Luka be Luka, and he is. He’s still getting his points, just not efficiently. I don’t think that’s “exposing” someone. More like slowing them down if anything.

  • @GabrielSanchez-g8s
    @GabrielSanchez-g8s 3 месяца назад +2

    Shady pick mavs and he mad about the mvp on the other team lol 😂

  • @davidcobb1379
    @davidcobb1379 3 месяца назад +6

    Why does Shady get so mad when you disagree with him? He got some diddy in him!

    • @anthonyhinton6748
      @anthonyhinton6748 3 месяца назад

      Because he’s not confident in his answer or he feels like you’re attacking him instead of his argument imo. Either way it’s ridiculous how he gets mad. Maybe that’s why Joy always agrees with him.

    • @jr.kendle7230
      @jr.kendle7230 3 месяца назад +1

      He’s not mad mad. That’s how he debates. We all have family, friends and coworkers who debate sports like shady.

    • @aivah07
      @aivah07 3 месяца назад

      He has a criminal past. Beat up his ex gf

    • @sonseed7541
      @sonseed7541 3 месяца назад +1

      @@aivah07 ?

    • @anthonyhinton6748
      @anthonyhinton6748 3 месяца назад +4

      @@aivah07 that’s not even true. She was robbed and beating and she filed a lawsuit against him for failing to protect her because he wasn’t even home. Stop with the lies

  • @kamapparicio8538
    @kamapparicio8538 3 месяца назад +1

    They all was drinking that Luka juice thinking the Mavz was winning in 6-7. Anyone can do this job 😂

  • @youngmindelevation1176
    @youngmindelevation1176 3 месяца назад +8

    Tatum hate crazy 😂

  • @eric.c.jackson
    @eric.c.jackson 3 месяца назад +1

    Jalen Brown is a One. Tatum is a 2. Tatum seems to have more talent, but he's seems too passive to me. Brown will flat out go get it,

  • @Epyc_Taco
    @Epyc_Taco 3 месяца назад +3

    Shady and Ocho prove that NFL players don't understand basketball lol

  • @chavoFRM860
    @chavoFRM860 3 месяца назад +1

    Tatum is better but JB is creeping up fs 😂 & he got the clutch advantage fs , JB got that playoff jimmy in em 🤷🏻‍♂️☘️

  • @JoeMama-tl4tr
    @JoeMama-tl4tr 3 месяца назад +4

    You know Luka isn’t to blame when these people say he is. None of them have had a correct take all year. First it was the Nuggets who would dominate, then the Wolves and then the Mavericks were supposed to dominate. These people have been wrong all year. Mavs shouldn’t even be down 3-0 if Luka had teammates who could actually make buckets and earn the millions they are currently stealing

    • @Uilani-g4m
      @Uilani-g4m 3 месяца назад

      I'm not a Luka fan but I agree with you. Without him they wouldn't have made it this far. He and Kyrie are ball hogs, though, that's why the Mavs are sucky.

    • @AndYouAre
      @AndYouAre 3 месяца назад

      Yeah... It is so weird. The Mavs really are Luka, Kyrie, and marginalized players. The Mavs were up 15. As soon as Luka sat, they trimmed the lead to 3 in just 2 mins. No one else can dribble? No one else can make plays? With how Boston is defending them, half of their top players seem unplayable. Jones and Kleber probably shouldn't be on the court. Hardy and Hardaway definitely shouldn't be on the court... Cant play Luka and Kyrie for 48 mins. Only Washington is having an ok season, and even he cant really make plays in this series.

    • @davidhorton4505
      @davidhorton4505 3 месяца назад

      @@Uilani-g4m bro could’ve pass ngl

  • @eleazarmccoy5921
    @eleazarmccoy5921 3 месяца назад +2

    Will y'all please stop comparing him to Larry Bird...... people who has never seen Larry Bird play the effort he puts on defense is never talked about .....he NEVER worried about the refs he won 3 titles....the pistons..the bulls...the 76ers....the bucks... was no joke...and beat them all

  • @lonnellgrigsby1367
    @lonnellgrigsby1367 3 месяца назад +8

    Luka is a lil bit better version of
    James Harden when he was in his Prime.

    • @MeBihhhh
      @MeBihhhh 3 месяца назад +5

      Harden was better

    • @AJ4K.0
      @AJ4K.0 3 месяца назад +4

      In what way is Luka better.. Harden scored more, assisted more, won an mvp and legit changed the way the game is officiated. Recency bias is ridiculous

    • @lonnellgrigsby1367
      @lonnellgrigsby1367 3 месяца назад +1

      @@AJ4K.0 James never played well late in the playoffs

    • @lonnellgrigsby1367
      @lonnellgrigsby1367 3 месяца назад +2

      @@MeBihhhh never made it to a Finals and he could not play with another Superstar. He would act up when Chris Paul ran the offense

    • @AJ4K.0
      @AJ4K.0 3 месяца назад +2

      @@lonnellgrigsby1367 He averaged 29 & 6 in a conference finals and took the dynasty warriors to 7 games

  • @laderricpiner2748
    @laderricpiner2748 3 месяца назад +1

    Instead of trying to divide 2 great players how about y'all debate are they the best 2 way backcourt in history...

  • @Nappysofunny
    @Nappysofunny 3 месяца назад +5

    Everyone on this show is trash fr 😂

  • @CC1832-
    @CC1832- 3 месяца назад +1

    Jaylen brown always been better than Jayson Tatum to me

    • @josephjones9648
      @josephjones9648 3 месяца назад

      I call BS. Jaylen Brown took longer to develop. He did not have a mid range or long range game when he came in. Jason Tatum was instant Gratification straight out of the draft. Thus the reason he is never in trade rumors, but they are always looking for a reason to get rid of Jaylen Brown.

  • @TheChrisbarker07
    @TheChrisbarker07 3 месяца назад +1

    There’s never been a moment too big for A TEAM !!😘

  • @josephjones9648
    @josephjones9648 3 месяца назад +2

    Do we not remember Golden State Warriors first NBA Championship to start the dynasty? 2015? Finals MVP was Andre Igoudala. Steph and Klay were clearly more talented than Andre Igoudala, but He served a higher purpose, in being able to limit LeBron James from freight training the Warriors. Which happened in 2016 when he was hurt, and Harrison Barnes was out there alone against LeBron.

  • @nsp74
    @nsp74 3 месяца назад +1

    these Celtics victory made these people like they don't know basketball at all

  • @jonmaciel
    @jonmaciel 3 месяца назад +1

    What's this thing comparing Tatum and Brown in the postseason? Tatum leads the Cs in points, rebounds, and assists this postseason. Tatum initiates the offense because teams HAVE to double him or he drops 50. That's why they get so many open 3s - because of Tatum. It isn't an accident that Tatum has been All-NBA 1st team for 3 years in a row.

  • @ia5349
    @ia5349 3 месяца назад +1

    Shady on point for his take on JB for the MVP, he made all the others squirm to try to make a case for JT and the ONLY point was the Joy take on if it goes to Game 5 and JT goes off for 40+ points in games 4 and 5, any other argument don't cut it.

  • @whatido247
    @whatido247 3 месяца назад +1

    I just hope they (Tatum & Brown) don't let this media talk disrupt thier chemistry. Their contracts are gonna be hard enough to navigate down the line.

    • @edelmantoamendola
      @edelmantoamendola 3 месяца назад

      They won't if you have been watching interviews in the playoffs/finals they know what the medias had been trying to do for years and they just want to win.

  • @coreyshaffer3903
    @coreyshaffer3903 3 месяца назад

    I can't stand Ric's takes, he claims that Tatum has done more overall but has totally ignored that Brown has not only been the best and most consistent offensive player but has also been the most effective defender on Luka

  • @eddiehill8434
    @eddiehill8434 3 месяца назад +1

    😂 James yelling at the TV

  • @ARW-qn7wt
    @ARW-qn7wt 3 месяца назад +1

    Luka is the same player he's always been. The same player he's been when he's receiving everybody's praise.

  • @christopherlandfair1389
    @christopherlandfair1389 3 месяца назад +1

    Luka was Wrong For taking A Charge

  • @cryptozilla_
    @cryptozilla_ 3 месяца назад +1

    Shady is a 🤡!
    You expect a 6’9/10 Tatum to guard Luka? Is he aware Tatum is the reason for the Mavs not having the lob threat?! Did he expect JB, Jrue or White who are all 6’6 or under to be guarding Gafford and Lively who are 6’10 & 7’0 respectively?! SMH

    • @Cream-2128
      @Cream-2128 3 месяца назад

      Tatum is 6’7 not 6’10😊

    • @cryptozilla_
      @cryptozilla_ 3 месяца назад

      @@Cream-2128 don’t be unfortunate with such silliness

  • @rufushall8331
    @rufushall8331 3 месяца назад +1

    We don’t decide who the best players are. The defense will decide that. Who is the defense loading up on and who is the defense single guarding. That is your answer

  • @bestrong8543
    @bestrong8543 3 месяца назад +47

    Everyone on this panel was wrong lmao where all those people mavs in 6 gang 😂 them boys about to get 🧹

  • @robmjj
    @robmjj 3 месяца назад

    James jones has the best take by far, every single one of these sports shows always talk about what the losing team did and how they messed up, and how they lost it rather than the other team won it…but just give credit to the team that’s smacking them

  • @anthonyclark2757
    @anthonyclark2757 3 месяца назад

    Brown: guards 1,2, and three If sometimes four , depending on his size of the Power forward Tatum: Guard. throw 3,4, and 5.
    Position I don't understand what you're talking about.

  • @jeanpompee1984
    @jeanpompee1984 3 месяца назад +1

    Shady killing it today.

  • @teiwade18
    @teiwade18 3 месяца назад

    As a Celtic fan this argument is exhausting.. JB & JT compliment each other and that’s just that.. JT is asked to do a lot more than JB so of course it feels like JB is better.. I just love my team man and I hope they can continue to block out the noise and stay humble to stay together as long as possible

  • @jahkrmusic
    @jahkrmusic 3 месяца назад +1

    26:20 JT is MISSING SHOTS that's why. JB is not missing. JT is making it harder for the team and JB bails him out. What is this?!

  • @OnlyHTMRK
    @OnlyHTMRK 3 месяца назад +6

    who would have thought that a bunch of football players that know nothing about basketball where gonna be wrong 🤡