Kyrie Irving ‘wasn’t the best’ in first 2 games of the Finals, still have faith? | NBA | SPEAK

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  • @SpeakOnFS1
    @SpeakOnFS1  7 месяцев назад +12

    Subscribe to the Bear Bets podcast: bit.ly/BearBets

    • @FranklynStubbs
      @FranklynStubbs 7 месяцев назад +2

      Good Night Real Tklz

    • @larondavis
      @larondavis 7 месяцев назад +2

      Good show but they know nothing about basketball

  • @Oldmanstillgotit
    @Oldmanstillgotit 7 месяцев назад +480

    The narrative went from “The best scoring duo in history” to “luka needs help” 😭😭😭

    • @KCKilla7467
      @KCKilla7467 7 месяцев назад +13

      FACTS ‼️

    • @franknatti5367
      @franknatti5367 7 месяцев назад +34

      Fr they just wanna have wiggle room when they all look dumb for picking Mavs

    • @lirojanckens3010
      @lirojanckens3010 7 месяцев назад +5

      I mean there just sayin what we see and it’s true he need someone to step up

    • @BaithNa
      @BaithNa 7 месяцев назад +19

      The Celtics exposed them 🤷‍♂️

    • @MadMan-vs2mc
      @MadMan-vs2mc 7 месяцев назад +7

      Watch luka and mavs was like watching 2007 lebron and cavs all over again. Luka finna demand a trade. Garbage ahh teammates.

  • @JLoveTHEJLove
    @JLoveTHEJLove 7 месяцев назад +305

    This whole panel picked the mavs…. No excuses you guys couldn’t be more wrong

    • @BaithNa
      @BaithNa 7 месяцев назад +37

      They were blinded by the glitz and glamour of the Mavs hype train instead of doing real basketball analysis smh I can't blame them because half of the media fell for it and most of the NBA fans.

    • @bluntsensei
      @bluntsensei 7 месяцев назад +13

      ​@@BaithNa no Boston deserved 0 faith in them until they finally win the finals... It's their fault for constantly choking and this year they had the biggest cupcake of cupcake eastern conference so let's stop pretending like Boston didn't constantly give us reason to doubt them

    • @jameyregier8054
      @jameyregier8054 7 месяцев назад +9

      These Mavs haven't won the finals. Constantly doubting the Celtics? Look at the numbers.
      Your argument is faulty.

    • @ghosting6723
      @ghosting6723 7 месяцев назад +23

      @@bluntsenseiu still gone be doubting them if they win just shut up Celtics in 4 bum

    • @unknownx7252
      @unknownx7252 7 месяцев назад +2

      Yep, it's hard to pick Boston when your history has not matched your talent. ​@@bluntsensei

  • @montywilson4493
    @montywilson4493 7 месяцев назад +132

    The toughest defender i ever faced in the league is Jrue Holiday,Steph Curry said that!

    • @alzoniabaxteriii4916
      @alzoniabaxteriii4916 7 месяцев назад +6

      Low key Jrue holiday has always been underrated his whole career. He is definitely a benefactor in every game.

    • @montywilson4493
      @montywilson4493 7 месяцев назад

      @@alzoniabaxteriii4916 The warriors should get an eye opener with Milwaukee trading Jrue,as with klay impending free agency coming up.

    • @fwkira864
      @fwkira864 7 месяцев назад

      @@alzoniabaxteriii4916 benefacor?

  • @Rell1Edits
    @Rell1Edits 7 месяцев назад +185

    Shady said he’s never seen Kyrie in this type of struggle. You can tell he just started watching NBA this year smh

    • @Djturnt
      @Djturnt 7 месяцев назад +27

      I'm like boston did it to him before 2 years ago lol

    • @jasiribandele5601
      @jasiribandele5601 7 месяцев назад +7

      hes delusional

    • @wannabegolfin24-72
      @wannabegolfin24-72 7 месяцев назад +1

      He didn't see kyrie's boston years when he waved off tatum on guarding Ginnis so that he could guard him.

    • @bluebat2626
      @bluebat2626 7 месяцев назад +3

      Shady is dumb when it comes to most things you just can’t listen to him. He has terrible takes. James and Joy started off okay but now they just agree with Shady cuz he’s the loudest in the room.

    • @qualinteranzy7948
      @qualinteranzy7948 7 месяцев назад

      Right 😂😂😂but he mentioned the shot in 2016 but not the first 4 games when kyrie stunk up the joint

  • @2300MapogoBrothers
    @2300MapogoBrothers 7 месяцев назад +163

    Do people forget we swept Kyrie with KD? He played the same way then

    • @DarryllEverett
      @DarryllEverett 7 месяцев назад

      Harden didn't play and kd wasn't healthy

    • @SuperDunk1000
      @SuperDunk1000 7 месяцев назад +19

      @@DarryllEverett uhhh….and? Kyrie got punked.

    • @jaydot4956
      @jaydot4956 7 месяцев назад +27

      @@DarryllEverettFor one Harden wasn’t on the team then and KD was plenty healthy he just got locked down.

    • @JamesHall_II
      @JamesHall_II 7 месяцев назад +12

      @@DarryllEverettSince you wanna bring up injuries remember when they played the year before in the playoffs & Boston didn’t have JB?

    • @devaughnvirgil2238
      @devaughnvirgil2238 7 месяцев назад +4

      Harden wasnt even on the team 😂😂😂

  • @BeJamin4321
    @BeJamin4321 7 месяцев назад +87

    Don’t understand how all these Media analyst don’t ever account for Defense. There are 2 sides of the ball.

    • @jameyregier8054
      @jameyregier8054 7 месяцев назад +4

      Exactly!

    • @SuperDunk1000
      @SuperDunk1000 7 месяцев назад +11

      Literally 50% of the game and they never mention it. That’s how you know they’re not basketball people

    • @MS-pd7fc
      @MS-pd7fc 7 месяцев назад +7

      Because they dont watch the games. They look at box scores and go off narratives

    • @jeremiahsmith7706
      @jeremiahsmith7706 7 месяцев назад

      Because defense is not as valuable

    • @SuperDunk1000
      @SuperDunk1000 7 месяцев назад +7

      @@jeremiahsmith7706 I’m sorry you must’ve had some terrible coaches growing up

  • @ThongNguyen-ih2hm
    @ThongNguyen-ih2hm 7 месяцев назад +106

    They talked about Kyrie doing his work back in 2016. That was 8 years ago.

    • @mneno1218
      @mneno1218 7 месяцев назад +2

      ⁠@@Velveteenvisionkyrie will always need a better superstar who is known for scoring and passing. (Lebron and Luka) so all he has to focus on is scoring. You have to use him like a weapon got to know how and when to use him. He cannot carry a team he can pass, but is a shoot first 2 guard in a point guards body.

    • @mikee3261
      @mikee3261 7 месяцев назад

      Your name is thong ?

    • @SuperDunk1000
      @SuperDunk1000 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@Velveteenvision He was terrible when he got swept by Boston in Brooklyn 2022

    • @youngmindelevation1176
      @youngmindelevation1176 7 месяцев назад +3

      Not only that he had a veteran and prime BRON BRON 😂 who was hungry….people love kyrie for the shot he made but bron set him up for the shot lebron brung the Cavs to that moment

    • @nomindstate
      @nomindstate 7 месяцев назад

      @@youngmindelevation1176 what do you mean set him up for the shot? like Bron is passing lobs to Kyrie? lol

  • @jameyregier8054
    @jameyregier8054 7 месяцев назад +67

    10:34 "That's why I thought it was a hard match-up for the Mavs"
    YOU. PICKED. THEM. IN. 5!

  • @jason10184
    @jason10184 7 месяцев назад +37

    Acho went from " Kyrie could be the best Robin in NBA history " to " jrue holiday is a better player " real quick 🤣🤣🤣

    • @johannf36
      @johannf36 7 месяцев назад +6

      Acho said Jrue has been the better player for the last 4 years.

    • @jonathanjelks5743
      @jonathanjelks5743 7 месяцев назад

      😅🤣🤣🤣🎯

    • @twizzy585ots
      @twizzy585ots 7 месяцев назад

      Acho has said this before tho...and he's right

    • @everydayesteban
      @everydayesteban 7 месяцев назад

      It’s their job to say random things, it gets people to comment and activate the algorithm.

    • @ericnjoroge5813
      @ericnjoroge5813 7 месяцев назад

      😂😂 crazy.

  • @absiyehassan36
    @absiyehassan36 7 месяцев назад +80

    Are they still picking the mavs to win the series??? Bunch of 🤡s im not even a Celtics fan

    • @saelmirasolo245
      @saelmirasolo245 7 месяцев назад +12

      they could be down 3-0 and they would still say mavs in 7.

    • @absiyehassan36
      @absiyehassan36 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@saelmirasolo245 I think there trolling

    • @kingshabazz1310
      @kingshabazz1310 7 месяцев назад +2

      I wonder who people picked in 2021 when the Bucks went down 0-2....series ain't over chief.

    • @saelmirasolo245
      @saelmirasolo245 7 месяцев назад

      @@kingshabazz1310 Guess who else was on that team chief.

    • @darrencox9253
      @darrencox9253 7 месяцев назад

      ​@kingshabazz1310 Do you have any money? Are you a betting man or you just talking You're right, it aint over anything can happen. But I got a lot of money saying that it's over you. Just have to take my money

  • @j_c_d_b
    @j_c_d_b 7 месяцев назад +70

    Did they even mention Derrick white smh dude is the definition of grit

    • @Liyfa_Unpay
      @Liyfa_Unpay 7 месяцев назад +3

      💯

    • @HomerunsamSOSA
      @HomerunsamSOSA 7 месяцев назад +2

      Havin white and jrue on the same squad defensively is crazy

    • @HomerunsamSOSA
      @HomerunsamSOSA 7 месяцев назад

      Only defensive duos I like other than them is gafford and lively and a healthy KL and PG

  • @jonmaciel
    @jonmaciel 7 месяцев назад +22

    Jrue is a two-time all-star. He was an all-star just last year. And he's been even more efficient this year than he was last year. He's no scrub out there.

  • @erichenderson844
    @erichenderson844 7 месяцев назад +41

    I agree with Acho on this one.

    • @mrbingo7564
      @mrbingo7564 7 месяцев назад +2

      He said both sides of the ball

  • @michaelmelendez4075
    @michaelmelendez4075 7 месяцев назад +51

    Jrue is the best two way player correct

  • @jasiribandele5601
    @jasiribandele5601 7 месяцев назад +39

    Its always there not playing well not oh lets give boston's defense some credit

    • @NotebookLives
      @NotebookLives 7 месяцев назад +1

      I’m a Lakers fan but can admit that Boston’s defense is deadass suffocating. They have Kyrie fumbling and jumbling the ball more than I’ve ever seen from him.

  • @banchasutthajitto7755
    @banchasutthajitto7755 7 месяцев назад +18

    in the words of jaylen brown “if you on that side stay on that side” ☘️☘️☘️☘️

  • @lilray79
    @lilray79 7 месяцев назад +51

    He didn't have Jrue guarding him in 2016

    • @nolimit_cmoney2338
      @nolimit_cmoney2338 7 месяцев назад +11

      he had klay the best 2way sg at the time

    • @zuhayrakhan
      @zuhayrakhan 7 месяцев назад +22

      @@nolimit_cmoney2338 Klay is not the defender Jrue is 😂

    • @kingshabazz1310
      @kingshabazz1310 7 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@zuhayrakhan At that time he was. This is a casual statement.

    • @jaydot4956
      @jaydot4956 7 месяцев назад +9

      @@kingshabazz1310bro jrue is known for locking star pgs down, when has klay ever locked someone down? Jrue also locked down prime Dame in 2018 and was the biggest reason the pelicans beat the blazers that year.

    • @peezydabeatmonster8112
      @peezydabeatmonster8112 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@nolimit_cmoney2338 lol y'all tweaking and I'm a Gsw fan Klay made 1 defensive second team ever and never led Gsw in steals or blocks for a season etc ever it's been Draymond and Curry

  • @BaithNa
    @BaithNa 7 месяцев назад +24

    Kyrie played in the playoffs Boston 2 years ago and he was swept while being completely shut down after game 1.
    He's not big or strong enough to play against the dawgs in Boston. He's not going to "bounce back" or "turn it around". His only chance of having an effective game is if he plays like a true point while he has the ball and play like a catch and shoot wing while off the ball. The more he dribbles and drives, the easier it is for Boston to body him and make his shots difficult.

    • @acepex033
      @acepex033 7 месяцев назад

      Thank you and he had KD and they had the lead at the beginning of 3 of the games out of 4. We still won and our defense now is way way better and our offense too.

  • @Watch.Ur_Step
    @Watch.Ur_Step 7 месяцев назад +15

    kyrie hit that shot 8yrs ago and he has only played 143 games over his 4 years with Nets (35avg yr). He completely punked out on the Celtics.... There is a point to his argument. Kyrie has been a headcase since leaving the Cavs. This is his first good season in 6-7yrs and everyone just remembers the 24yr old Kyrie.

    • @acepex033
      @acepex033 7 месяцев назад +2

      It’s because in 2016 he had Lebron and on top of that gsw defense was not and still is not as strong as there offense. Period. They have 1 attribute. That series was purely offense. Who gets the last shot. This series is about defense and teamwork. 5 on 5. Mags playing 3 on 5.

    • @kingkyrie5140
      @kingkyrie5140 7 месяцев назад

      Cooked my idol but it’s true

    • @jaylajones6292
      @jaylajones6292 7 месяцев назад

      That’s true ,but our problem is that he wasn’t saying that before the series started. He was bandwagoning and now he’s trynna jump off

  • @CoCoButta901
    @CoCoButta901 7 месяцев назад +11

    Acho is right on this one. Just because someone is more popular doesn’t make them an overall better player.

  • @sakhilemalinga177
    @sakhilemalinga177 7 месяцев назад +37

    How is Holiday not better than kyrie in the last 4 years ?

    • @bern717
      @bern717 7 месяцев назад +9

      But he's got a "deeper bag" offensively!! And don't forget about the highlights on IG!! Therefore Kyrie >> Jrue. His views on flat earth is undeniable too!

    • @roberttruesdale7062
      @roberttruesdale7062 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@bern717😂😂😂😂

    • @SteloPacino
      @SteloPacino 7 месяцев назад +7

      I’m the biggest Kyrie hater in the world, but Jrue Holiday was just getting cooked by Butler last year

    • @bigmo3692
      @bigmo3692 7 месяцев назад +12

      @@SteloPacino what do you think butler would do against kyrie? Lol

    • @jason10184
      @jason10184 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@bigmo3692 kyrie wouldn't be guarding jimmy genius

  • @blizz1004
    @blizz1004 7 месяцев назад +3

    Hate when football players think football not basketball. Drew holiday is better player at this moment. He can play both sides of the court. DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIP SMH

  • @smoothsinger422
    @smoothsinger422 7 месяцев назад +3

    RIGHT NOW I WOULD take Jrue over Kyrie. He's supposed to be a bucket and he's not doing his job. Jrue is asked to score, assist, AND play defense. And he's coming through on all three accounts

  • @randomupdates4013
    @randomupdates4013 7 месяцев назад +35

    Episode recap: Joy says “nuance” 27 times. Acho calls Shady the greatest to do it, SB’s on benches count. 😊😊😊

    • @leonardobraynen1524
      @leonardobraynen1524 7 месяцев назад +2

      😂

    • @whatisit-d8b
      @whatisit-d8b 7 месяцев назад +3

      wasn't even on the bench for the chief SB ring, He was deactivate for a defensive linemen.

    • @jgard1168
      @jgard1168 7 месяцев назад +1

      He’s done more than you buddy

    • @oldheed515
      @oldheed515 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@jgard1168how do you know that?

    • @jgard1168
      @jgard1168 7 месяцев назад

      @@oldheed515 people anyone successful in life isn’t on RUclips downplaying someone’s accomplishments

  • @TheGMONEY70
    @TheGMONEY70 7 месяцев назад +3

    Imagine being forced to ride with a team because you picked them to win the series but you don’t truly believe they can win. This whole panel really picked Dallas just shows how many ppl don’t use true analysis, they clearly picked with their hearts because Dallas beat Minnesota

  • @j_c_d_b
    @j_c_d_b 7 месяцев назад +20

    Stay on that side shady don’t come cryin when it’s a sweep

    • @topshotta2000
      @topshotta2000 7 месяцев назад

      Match up problems every series is different I said they need to get guy who can shoot n defend

  • @ThirdThinker
    @ThirdThinker 7 месяцев назад +27

    A lot of people looking real dumb for picking the Mavericks. This is what happens when you understand what you are watching.

    • @jamesroby2667
      @jamesroby2667 7 месяцев назад +1

      i mean series ain’t over .. dallas got a chance to win 2 at home

    • @shivnerine1
      @shivnerine1 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@jamesroby2667keep dreaming bud

    • @2Good2BeTrue45
      @2Good2BeTrue45 7 месяцев назад

      You definitely dont understand basketball if you think that. Boston is a deadly road tram. Boston also beat Mavs twice in the regular season, even without Porzingis. The Celtics played the worst game they played all playoffs and they still beat the Mavs @@jamesroby2667

    • @LKS-M9323
      @LKS-M9323 7 месяцев назад +1

      Series don't start til someone steals 1 at home. Everyone know that 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @jaydot4956
      @jaydot4956 7 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@LKS-M9323what does that even mean?

  • @erikthomas2385
    @erikthomas2385 7 месяцев назад +7

    Acho is right, Jrue is a better 2way player. What defense does Kyrie play?

  • @youtubeconnollyfamily
    @youtubeconnollyfamily 7 месяцев назад +3

    I would rather have holiday than Irving, because holiday is a dog when it comes to defense.

  • @Xenferno
    @Xenferno 7 месяцев назад +4

    In the last 4 seasons, Holiday has played 262 games to Irving 147. I would take Holiday for being more reliable throughout more games

  • @IGjusstevv
    @IGjusstevv 7 месяцев назад +7

    Jrue averaged 20, 5, 7 his last year with the Bucks where he was the 2nd/3rd option, mainly 2nd with Middleton being hurt often. He was still making all defensive teams. He’s just a dawg. He wasn’t trying to get more than 20 points, because he was playing in the system.
    Kyrie averaged 26, 5, 5. He doesn’t play good defense. He’s been better in these playoffs, lots of effort but he’s just not built for it.
    Overall as a player, I’m taking Jrue. He’s taller, stronger, he can shoot (43% from 3 this year), he makes plays for others, and he will lock your best player up while doing all that on offense. And he will post your small guards up, can get to the rack, and has more offensive game than he shows because he doesn’t need to score all the time when he has the two teams he’s had these last few years. Plus he’s guarding the other teams best player so he’s conservative, just plays his roll as asked and makes BIG plays on both sides of the ball. Ky struggling on offense, and his defense doesn’t make up for it. That’s all you need to know.
    If I already have a superstar, give me Jrue. If I don’t, I’ll take Kyrie. He’s box office & he will definitely win us games with the right pieces. Can’t go wrong with either. But I like guys that take pride in defense.

  • @jctslice
    @jctslice 7 месяцев назад +9

    I never had faith in him to begin with. What was he in the NBA before, after, and outside of LeBron ? Basically a stat padder. Had amazing stats that didn't impact winning. What's happening to Kyrie is literally strengthening LBJ's GOAT argument without having to take a single dribble

    • @roberttruesdale7062
      @roberttruesdale7062 7 месяцев назад

      Ive been saying this!!! Bron was playing some of the best ball we've ever seen and kyrie benefitted from that, he also let kyrie play to his strengths and ran a lot of sets to get him the rock in his spots

    • @dominiquerobinson8888
      @dominiquerobinson8888 7 месяцев назад +1

      Kyrie the reason Lebron came back to Cleveland, the main excuse lebron fans use for the Cavs losing in 2015, and the one that hit the big time bucket in game 7.

    • @jctslice
      @jctslice 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@dominiquerobinson8888 both Kyrie AND Love were out. Not just Kyrie

    • @dominiquerobinson8888
      @dominiquerobinson8888 7 месяцев назад

      @@jctslice I never said he was the only one gone, I said he was the main reason Cavs fans said they lost to GS. That’s cause they knew Love wasn’t gonna generate the scoring and offense Kyrie lebron needed

  • @roymendes5955
    @roymendes5955 7 месяцев назад +21

    Stick to Football guys lol

  • @dnice4145
    @dnice4145 7 месяцев назад +6

    What happened to all that "most skilled player in history " talk. Lol

  • @JLoveTHEJLove
    @JLoveTHEJLove 7 месяцев назад +13

    I don’t want to switch kyrie with Jrue lol. Celtics would be down 0-2 if that happened

    • @eurojay4847
      @eurojay4847 7 месяцев назад +2

      If Jrue was on the Mavs they wouldn’t be in the finals 😂 you insane

    • @acepex033
      @acepex033 7 месяцев назад

      He ain’t in Boston because he wanna iso look where he was at in New York and now. Ain’t nothing change lmao

  • @Ant_561
    @Ant_561 7 месяцев назад +13

    Acho has the worse recency bias than any analyst on tv other than Nick wright 😂

    • @slimluva69xxx
      @slimluva69xxx 7 месяцев назад

      But it’s the truth 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @jessicaadaora9109
      @jessicaadaora9109 7 месяцев назад +3

      😂😂😂, I agree, but I think he also does it on purpose because it’s his show and he needs to be the antagonist sometimes for there to be topics.

    • @Ant_561
      @Ant_561 7 месяцев назад

      @@jessicaadaora9109 na fr I hate to say it but jrue might be the 4th best player on Boston let alone better than kyrie …and even that’s debatable …JB,JT,KP and you can argue jrue or white on any given night

    • @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
      @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 7 месяцев назад

      @@Ant_561But I don’t need Jrue Holiday to be the best player on the Celtics

  • @StanleyBraxton-c9u
    @StanleyBraxton-c9u 7 месяцев назад +12

    Got to give the players defending him credit.

    • @cvgodd1432
      @cvgodd1432 5 месяцев назад

      Media doesn’t believe in defense

  • @thenewellnetwork
    @thenewellnetwork 7 месяцев назад +10

    NFL players giving NBA takes w/ nobody to check them from the NBA is crazy 😂😂😂

    • @youngton309
      @youngton309 7 месяцев назад +1

      Lol

    • @everydayesteban
      @everydayesteban 7 месяцев назад

      You basically described most ESPN talk shows. Wilbon, Skip, Nick Wright, Shannon, Windhorst, etc…..

    • @thenewellnetwork
      @thenewellnetwork 7 месяцев назад

      @@everydayesteban at least they know basketball

  • @DIXIFREELY
    @DIXIFREELY 7 месяцев назад +8

    I'm with you Acho...I've been saying for years that Jrue Holiday is a lot better than many of the people ahead in him in the popularity contests.

  • @Jaggedcoast2coast
    @Jaggedcoast2coast 7 месяцев назад +26

    Nah where y’all’s take on Dallas winning the series. Yall were so sure…GO CELTICS ☘️☘️☘️✅. How much more yall gotta see before you admit it. Luka had a triple double and it still wasn’t good enough. The defense is too tough for kyrie.
    Jrue is playing better than kyrie point blank.

    • @BaithNa
      @BaithNa 7 месяцев назад

      Luka had a selfish triple double where he hogged the ball and took a ton of shots. That'll never contribute to winning basketball.

    • @Wickwatcher
      @Wickwatcher 7 месяцев назад

      All 5 starters were in double figures, maybe give them more opportunities and they'll surprise you?

    • @christophergraves3113
      @christophergraves3113 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@BaithNajust say you're stupid next time😂

  • @337Captain
    @337Captain 7 месяцев назад +7

    Kylie, haven’t been anywhere since Cleveland

  • @KazzyOfficial
    @KazzyOfficial 7 месяцев назад +1

    Jrue Holiday is absolutely more conducive to winning than Kyrie Irving, and I love Kyrie Irving. Holiday is just a winner, and one of the best perimeter defenders in the NBA of the last decade. He’s a champion, and he’s locking down Kyrie. I actually agree with Acho

  • @Chippa33
    @Chippa33 7 месяцев назад +2

    My god this group is insufferable!! Shady is one of the worst ppl talking sports on TV,

  • @ClutchCity71
    @ClutchCity71 7 месяцев назад +4

    "You're a Justin Herbert guy huh" 😂😂😂

    • @leosaucedo6738
      @leosaucedo6738 7 месяцев назад +1

      Herbert caught a stray real quick lol

    • @kt0880
      @kt0880 7 месяцев назад

      @@leosaucedo6738😂

  • @rpbns
    @rpbns 7 месяцев назад +2

    Acho is right. Last night Jrue was asked to be Brown/Tatum and he stepped up and did that. Jrue is by far outplaying his role and Kyrie while Kyrie is underperforming his role.

  • @Nuke631
    @Nuke631 7 месяцев назад +8

    Jrue put the clamps on kyrie😅😅😅

  • @kemwershabbaka4351
    @kemwershabbaka4351 7 месяцев назад +1

    The real problem is Luka not breaking down the defense and getting that lob game going. Last 2 series Lively and Gafford at times combined for 20 points from center position.

  • @mauricewilliams4150
    @mauricewilliams4150 7 месяцев назад +5

    This the funniest episode 😂😂

  • @jaytee4374
    @jaytee4374 7 месяцев назад +1

    I think people forgot bc of how well he played in the conference finals that he's been quite up and down throughout these entire playoffs

  • @jamesholt6729
    @jamesholt6729 7 месяцев назад +1

    A few facts to chew on since these “analysts” don’t want to bother with them.
    1. Boston has beaten Kyrie’s squads in 13 straight matchups. Kyrie’s stats are largely similar to the first two games of these Finals in that 13 game span. Yes, Boston’s D is that good.
    2. Dallas has lost 7 straight games to Boston including 4 games this season. Every Mavs fan points out how much they changed after the trade deadline. Well, Boston is 3-0 against the current Mavs team since they turned their season around. The average margarine of victory is 12 points per game. This is not an outlier, it’s the most common and likely outcome.
    3. Everyone keeps talking about how Dallas needs to shoot better, but for anyone whose checked their stat sheets, Boston is 2-0 and has yet to shot to their regular season shooting percentage from the field as well as from the 3 point line. Boston has yet to put a full game together, so if Dallas can’t keep up now, why would you expect it to improve? Even if Kyrie outperformed his 13 game averages, Boston is up 2 games and hasn’t even had a “normal or regular” showing yet. 1 quarter in game one is all they’ve really done so far.
    4. There’s been a lot of talk about Kyrie, but has anyone seen Tatum? At sone point Tatum lays a 40 point game in Dallas. Coming in he had hit 32 on average against this theme.

  • @yungnflashytv
    @yungnflashytv 7 месяцев назад +3

    I feel like we should be praising Boston's gameplan

  • @flyofchange
    @flyofchange 7 месяцев назад +1

    A few days ago everybody was like "Who on Boston can guard Kyrie and Luka???!!! Mavs in 5!!!"
    Where are all of y'all now? 😁

  • @OuchthismighthurtTV
    @OuchthismighthurtTV 7 месяцев назад +9

    Jrue Holiday is better than Kyrie Irving is the craziest take I’ve ever heard 😂

    • @charlestillie243
      @charlestillie243 7 месяцев назад +8

      It doesn't matter whether a holiday is better than Irving or not the Celtics lead two games to none

    • @slimluva69xxx
      @slimluva69xxx 7 месяцев назад

      Bro he said jrue playing better than kyrie right not which is true his whole take was facts and im a kyrie fan he has played bad against Boston ever since he stomped on lucky he 0-12 get out da feelings and look at the numbers of course kyrie better than jrue overall but I RIGHT NOW jrue playing better

    • @Cream-2128
      @Cream-2128 7 месяцев назад +6

      Jrue does everything better but score to be honest. Rebound, passing, defense

  • @Desertbiker617
    @Desertbiker617 7 месяцев назад +3

    These 4 predicted Mavs gonna win.🤦

  • @zuhayrakhan
    @zuhayrakhan 7 месяцев назад +2

    What a stupid and stubborn panel! They refuse to admit they were wrong about Boston even now. The Celtics are undefeated on the road, I don't where this faith that the Mavs will pull of miracles is coming from? Kyrie can have a big game, but Mavs will still lose 🤷‍♂

  • @justogmula4627
    @justogmula4627 7 месяцев назад

    Good to see Joy back to normal with good takes 👌🏾

  • @jeremyjohnson1082
    @jeremyjohnson1082 7 месяцев назад

    There go Acho...pullin' an Acho again. He stay Achoin' 😂😂 I was watchin' this ish like James dawg 🤣🤣

  • @jdawg6389
    @jdawg6389 7 месяцев назад +2

    Keep the same energy when Boston go up 3-0

  • @northwestkidmarc
    @northwestkidmarc 7 месяцев назад +2

    I shouldve known the celtics would beat the mavs they just got more firepower with holiday tatum and brown and porzingas and the mavs only got luca nd kyrie but still the mavs should better than this 😂😮‍💨💯 at this point the celtics gon sweep

  • @paulbornastar
    @paulbornastar 7 месяцев назад +1

    Acho actually IS CORRECT!! Jrue is overall the better player. That goes for Kyrie and Luka. And they forgetting that Jrue is a STAR player as well. He's been balling for years on every team he's played with.

    • @jonpetter8921
      @jonpetter8921 7 месяцев назад

      Jrule is not better overall than Luka. And before you come up with the "Luka don t defend", watch the games again. Luka defense is decent in this playoff. Especially in this final. He is smart enough to put his body i front of his opponent, especially vs Tatum i those two games. He had couple of steals vs Tatum, JB, KP. Overall Luka is the better player. Just watch his stats. If Mavs hit their 3 and Kyrie can give 20 points per game, we would have seen different serie.
      Mavs can still win this serie but Kyrie has to show up. And i agree Jrule has been better overall than Kyrie so far in this final.

  • @aaronhampton3141
    @aaronhampton3141 7 месяцев назад

    WTF is Acho Smoking??? I was waiting for him to say he was trolling 😂😂😂

  • @simba0019
    @simba0019 7 месяцев назад +1

    These guys forget that Kylie played with the Celtics? Lmfao

  • @NiteOwlVibes
    @NiteOwlVibes 7 месяцев назад +1

    If defense is 50 percent, why are offensive players seen as better players than 2 way players?

  • @edwinrosario7551
    @edwinrosario7551 7 месяцев назад +1

    These bums don’t know what to talk about

  • @JStieloSoloPhysique1987
    @JStieloSoloPhysique1987 7 месяцев назад +1

    6:46 SPORTS MEDIA HAVD BEEN DOING THSI TO JT AND JB NON STOP THO!!! They play for the same TEAM!!!!!!!

  • @Chef_nh
    @Chef_nh 7 месяцев назад

    I agree with acho on this one

  • @juanbueno9939
    @juanbueno9939 7 месяцев назад +1

    The sports media is full of 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @saelmirasolo245
    @saelmirasolo245 7 месяцев назад +2

    James Jones is the dude who thinks Aaron Rodgers is the Goat.

  • @lorenzofletcher3549
    @lorenzofletcher3549 7 месяцев назад +3

    Where is slick Rick? No hoopers available for finals analysis?

  • @dewayne3709
    @dewayne3709 7 месяцев назад +3

    Ocho making a good point I’d take holiday over Irving kyi just a better scoring guard that don’t play both ends yall be forgetting about defense often

    • @Saviiq
      @Saviiq 7 месяцев назад

      Stop ky can pass & play d & his offense is light years ahead

    • @hakeemevans7778
      @hakeemevans7778 7 месяцев назад

      @@SaviiqKyrie can’t play defense. He’s a decent passer but nothing special. Jrue Holiday is definitely more valuable on both ends.

  • @1RobertSmith
    @1RobertSmith 7 месяцев назад +3

    Aging Kyrie just might be out of gas. 0-8 from the 3pt?

  • @jay_bird83126
    @jay_bird83126 7 месяцев назад +1

    5:43 how ever far ahead offensively you think Kyrie is over Jrue, Jrue is that far ahead, if not farther, of Kyrie on Defense.

    • @Saviiq
      @Saviiq 7 месяцев назад

      Stop

  • @jemeljordan-butler4510
    @jemeljordan-butler4510 7 месяцев назад

    “What you care about, James? Highlights? So, you’re a Justin Herbert guy, huh?”
    Lmao Justin Herbert catching strays

  • @charmainebacot8222
    @charmainebacot8222 7 месяцев назад

    Watching them react to Acho saying Jrue Holiday is a better overall player than Kyrie is pure comedy. Their body language alone is hilarious!🤣 Acho just be talkin out the side of his neck...😂😂😂

  • @randomupdates4013
    @randomupdates4013 7 месяцев назад +11

    Dave makes the show so much better. Should have his permanent seat. They all talk so general right now 🥱

  • @iamshawnwilliam
    @iamshawnwilliam 7 месяцев назад

    Problem with that 2016 take is that was guarding & being guarded by Steph, Klay. Klay was an elite defender but Steph isn’t. Now, Ky is dealing with 3 elite defenders in Jrue, White & Brown while also having to play defense too, sometimes against Porz,
    Boston is a match up nightmare for the Mavs

  • @kevinhuynh4531
    @kevinhuynh4531 7 месяцев назад +1

    Get em Emmanuel. !

  • @keysgeter3916
    @keysgeter3916 7 месяцев назад +8

    Wtf are they watching cause we can't be all watching the same game cause if I had money on the Mavs I will be nervous

  • @roberthilson6327
    @roberthilson6327 7 месяцев назад

    Acho is nuts with some of his takes 😅

  • @jasiribandele5601
    @jasiribandele5601 7 месяцев назад +4

    boul in the glasses is the only smart one

  • @timothybrooklyn3496
    @timothybrooklyn3496 7 месяцев назад

    Holiday a beast 💪 😎 👌

  • @Sl3epingBear
    @Sl3epingBear 7 месяцев назад +1

    Why wasn’t Acho about winning when he was on the eagles ?or the other NFL teams

  • @ThePh4ntomHammer
    @ThePh4ntomHammer 7 месяцев назад +1

    "Clearly jayson tatum because luka is doing everything else" she's literally the worst analyst... tatum is the one almost averaging a triple double brown on a good day gets 5 rebounds and assists tatum averages 10r 6a the whole playoffs jesus christ😊

  • @juanbueno9939
    @juanbueno9939 7 месяцев назад +1

    Kyrie is overrated i felt so happy when he left boston

  • @Sea_Stallion
    @Sea_Stallion 7 месяцев назад

    I waited for the sense they said “it was only one game I’m not worried”

  • @ian1753
    @ian1753 7 месяцев назад

    I'm a huge Kyrie fan and Jrue Holiday has not only outplayed him but has been the MVP of the series so far imo

  • @victormonjaras2134
    @victormonjaras2134 7 месяцев назад

    Joy Taylor being the voice of reason is the only option to listen and witness this show.

  • @gregoryemeagwara5933
    @gregoryemeagwara5933 7 месяцев назад

    Game 3 is a Game 7 for Mavs. Irving needs to come up big especially in the 4th💯

  • @ceerawlins3412
    @ceerawlins3412 7 месяцев назад +1

    Ey yo acho sitting facts!!!!

  • @martinshaw891
    @martinshaw891 7 месяцев назад

    As soon as media and sports commentators starting saying EdWards was the new Michael Jordan he faded. As soon as media and sports commentators said Luka and kyrie were the best back court ever it faded. If folks stop living in the moment you don’t have to walk back stuff. Just let them play.

  • @fixyourteeth4409
    @fixyourteeth4409 7 месяцев назад

    The comments killed them that video too 😂

  • @JamesSardalla
    @JamesSardalla 7 месяцев назад +6

    The worst predictions of all time 😂

  • @akeimmorris4652
    @akeimmorris4652 7 месяцев назад +12

    They need to cancel this show

  • @Common_sense88
    @Common_sense88 7 месяцев назад

    I like Kyrie and I don’t agree with everything Acho says but he was right on this one. It wasn’t even a close debate.

  • @cvgodd1432
    @cvgodd1432 5 месяцев назад

    Finally someone said it… a bunch of players fit in this category. If they don’t make their shots, they provide nothing else!!!

  • @karizie
    @karizie 7 месяцев назад +1

    We saw it in Brooklyn where they got swept by this team. Boston knows how to guard him.

    • @DiabIe37
      @DiabIe37 7 месяцев назад

      Exactly. Brad Stevens knows what makes Kyrie tick and how to throw him off his game better than anyone.

  • @MichiganHendough
    @MichiganHendough 7 месяцев назад

    jrue is a high level role player only thing he`s better at is defense rebounder stop it. lol i picked the celts too.

  • @jameyregier8054
    @jameyregier8054 7 месяцев назад +1

    Kyrie is still looking better than "Mav's in 5"

  • @augustmoon0004
    @augustmoon0004 7 месяцев назад

    The three on the Kyrie tip shows exactly why they can't pick basketball. Defense matters a TON! Acho is 100% correct!!!!