How is acho wrong? Kyrie looked washed vs Boston. Kyrie ain’t washed cuz he had a good regular season but he looked scared and pathetic in the finals this year.
@@fredricksmith8760 it would have been better for his legacy to actually show up. There’s no excuse for how bad he played. The series would have gone to 7 games if he actually contributed 50% of what he did in the regular season
@@user-xv1sr3uy7p still doesn't TAKE AWAY from what he overcame this post season and his past accomplishments. I do wish he put up more of a fight. But if the White media is gonna frame it as LUKAS TEAM, the bulk of the blame should fall on him, just like it would LeBron or Jordan. Luka can't have it both ways, because even if Kyrie performed better ALL the accolades would have went to Luka.
They talked the letdown of Luka and his lack of defensive effort yesterday. Gotta get a lotta spin on every topic and non-issue and non-sense to keep people clicking. Long way to NFL and NBA again. So here we are.
Why? What has he done in his whole career? Outside of the LeBron chip and this season he's been a loser. He's all time fun to watch. Handle goes crazy but he's not a winner. Never has been. He's got a 53% win percentage as a starter and that was boosted by Lebron's 4 years back in Cleveland. Outside of that he's rocking like a 38% record as a starter. He doesn't get it done.
If you look at Kyrie Irving's postseason averages this season, they are very similar to his playoff averages since he left Cleveland in 2017 (22 points and 5 assists per game, 44 FG%, 37 3P%). The problem is people have overvalued Irving since he hit that go-ahead jumper in the 2016 NBA Finals. Since leaving Cleveland, Irving has had 10 playoff games where he scored at least 30 points (and seven came in this postseason) while having 16 games scoring 16 points or less. Although he got a reputation as a clutch player and big-time scorer while playing with LeBron James, Irving has been wildly inconsistent in the playoffs post-2017.
And those 30pt games are fluff. He better had a advantage and still lost in the Conf finals. Or he scored more than 25 in garbage time when the game is already over. I watch the games and his defense is always non existent
@@roderickhclouden5107 Yup. Luka's defense got destroyed in these playoffs, no one said a single thing about Kyrie's defense, which is also horrible. That's what he does. He doesn't carry the burden of leading a team or being at the forefront, always playing Robin to a top 3 player in the NBA. Gets the praise but never the criticism. We saw what happened when he tried to lead a team in Boston.
SAS said he would kick a field goal on 3rd down because if you miss it you'll have another shot on 4th down 😂 SAS is dumb as a bag rocks when it come to sports
These conversations are just for entertainment. They don't mean everything they say. The way to evaluate players is to see what organizations end up doing.
@templr44_ As I stated b4 to many who think it's an indictment on Kyrie, no one denies his importance on the Cavs. Since he left, tho, he has had 0 success (finals), thus his best success, circa 2024, is cuz of LeBron James.
He's been saying Tatum is the best on the Celtics, multiple times. Praising him for being the best overall player on the Celtics, how is he a Tatum hater
But he’s telling the truth. JT doesn’t win without Brown being at least a 1B. If Brown was a 2 or they didn’t have Holliday and even Porzingis’ game 1, Tatum would still be searching. He disappears.
I have followed the Dallas Maverick for about 15 years now and seen nearly every Kyrie game with the Mavericks. Kyrie is still a special player. He was special all year. Unfortunately Luka was injured during the playoffs which changed the dynamics significantly.
We live in a world where you need to win a championship or you're a scrub. We've seen this team make the conference finals with Jalen Brunson and now the finals with kyrie. They made the finals because of the addition of kyrie. And if you're good enough to make the finals, then you're good enough to win it.
That's the thing....when you have two high volume shooters that don't play defense....you can't have any off nights....they are your best two players on the team. Either you build your team around Luka/Kyrie or you trade one and do better!
This is why i don't ever listen to acho about sports simply because not only he over thinks his arguments but it seems as if he want show you how articulate and intellectual he is instead of just using common sense lol?
Name a kyrie lead team that made the playoffs? I’ll wait the first three years in Cleveland the cavs was a lottery team , lebron come back and takes him to four finals other then that what has he done he’s just a good ball handler (pause)
That’s a lame question. He was only a #1 for two years on the Celtics and his first year, he was injured and didn’t play in the playoffs. Very disingenuous question you made
@@BrothaSchwiftythe fact that he was injured his first year in Boston actually works against him because they went further in the playoffs when he wasn’t there.
@@jaydot4956 all that means is they played above expectations. Doesn’t mean that he couldn’t have gotten them further or that they were a better team without him
@@BrothaSchwifty “played above expectations”? Bro from 2017-2019 the Celtics had a record of 26-11 without kyrie, that’s a 70 percent win rate without their supposed best player, they also shot more efficient from the field and from 3 when Kyrie didn’t play. That’s not just a team playing above expectations.
Kyrie was perfect with Lebron because Bron is such a good scorer and playmaker it makes Kyries job much easier and he doesn’t have to playmake or anything else just hoop. Yes Luka is a good playmaker too but there is a difference between Lebron offenses and Luka offense. We have see Luka get fatigued and not to be able to score efficiently and playmake with a team that can switch multiple players on him.
@@jandt3463 the best success of Lebron James career was Wade,Kyrie n AD …best success of KD career was w Steph …Magic Kareem ….Shaq had Kobe n Wade MJ didn’t win without pippen can go on n on Broski name 2 small gaurds outside of Steph with success in last 25 years
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m You can be mad at Luka all you want. Fact remains Luka got the Mavs to 2 of the last 3 WCF and Kyrie was a no-show offensively multiple games but lets be fair a Finals run was pretty magical Celtics are the better team. I say celebrate that and enjoy being good enough to play for a ring
The Kyrie glazing is crazy smmfh the fact that Kyrie and Luka at one point was considered the best backcourt in nba HISTORY shows people dont know basketball smmfh dudes so simple-minded they get jaded by fancy dribble moves 🤦🏿♂️
'22 andrew wiggs locked down Ja morat, Luka doncic , jason tatum & Jalen brown , with averaging 18 pts, 8 reb in finals yeah i will take '22 instead of kai in finals anyday
Acho wasn’t the 52 best player on a championship team & he didn’t win one. Lesean was the 52nd best player on those championships. He was on the bench for them 😂😂
5:25 What is James Jones talking about? "Kyrie only had 1 bad series???????" Dude act like Kyrie been winning champions every other year. Kyrie been getting beat in the playoffs every year for the past 7 or 8 years. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Dude shut up. It is the norm for Kyrie to get beat. It hasn't been the norm for Kyrie to win. There is much more evidence that Kyrie is NOT the guy anymore than evidence he is still the guy.
Luka has played better defense in the second half of the season. These guys need to update their research. To say Luka had no effort? He was playing with a sprained knee and chest contusion. Kwahi would not have been in the stadium and Luka was showing up and getting a 30 point triple double on one leg.
You heard them, Luka gave up on defense. Early in the year, when Luka was healthy, he got smoked too. Luka needs to work on his conditioning ask Michael Finley. 😂
On that buck vs suns series jru holiday wasn't the number 2 at all. Middleton average 20+ in the playoffs with 6 rebounds and 5 assist shooting 50 percent. Jrue was shooting 30 percent in the playoffs and averaged like 15 points. He was only good on defense
@tjr2312 As long as Kyries only success is cuz of LeBron, that will always happen. Like KD and Golden State, Pippen with Jordan. Until proven otherwise, Kyrie peaked being Lebrons sidekick......
It didn’t. It took an nba finals for low IQ casuals like you to think you know how well he defends. Please enlighten me how they made the finals with a horrible defender (Luka) and no all nba defenders out there? Luke was playing on one leg and still held Tatum to atrocious shooting stats.
Boston Fan here. A bad serie doesn't make you a bad player. Kyrie payed amazing all year long. Boston knew how to defend on dallas and Boston was better. Dalllas lost and that's it. It not Kyrie's or Luka's fault. Dallas beat the west, they were the best team of the west. Now Boston vs Dallas, Boston was better in this serie. Just like Golden State was better than Boston back in 2022.
are they forgeting luka has to do everything and carry the ball outside of kyrie? yes he should be more in shape but he needs the energy more for offense when its lacking shot creators
Hopefully that Finals performance from Kyrie will help Kyrie not retire as the most overrated player in NBA history (because he was on that path) and people will finally start to rate him properly and stop swooning over him at every turn because of his playstyle. It was so tiring seeing him put in every conversation imaginable. People saying he's better than Steph and SGA, stuff like that. Ridiculous how much everybody is on his jock. And some people still defend him after those games in Boston where any other superstar would get obliterated. He's not held to the same standard as other superstars. He doesn't carry the burden of leading a team, yet is constantly in conversations against players that do. Like I said, tiring, and hopefully it's over now.
He killed a super team in Boston, Killed a super team in New Jersey, and came up empty in the finals. His championship led by Lebron in Cleveland was a log time ago. Also the Mavs were in a playoff spot when he was traded to them, and then proceeded to miss the playoffs.
The problem is Luka's defense not Kyrie. When Luka finally decided to play defense in game 4 the Mavs got off to a good start. If Luka gets in shape and commits to defense then the Mavs can take a step forward.
The problem was kyrie no showing during the finals. No one on the mavs played great defense, but at least luka was good offensively, unlike kyrie, who was a bum
One MILLION PERCENT BULLSH*T. If they switched places the Mavs would win because Kyrie is too small on switches, Luka is overweight and out of shape and a HORRIBLE defender.
Even more bullsh*t. LUKA on the Celtics would be a hole that other teams could exploit, they will lose. LUKA is overrated, he's not Jordan, Kobe or LeBron at 25. 25 year old Jordan on the Mavs vs Celtics JORDAN WOULD HAVE AVERAGED 40PPG AND LOCKED UP BROWN OR TATUM.
@@SaySpawnbruh, switch Luka with Tatum or Brown and you have one of the best teams ever. You need to put the pipe down and take your meds. Put brown or Tatum on the Mavs and they barely make the playoffs.
@@nazimbelaidi6486 He didn't win. All that matters. 3 finals with Lebron and a title. No Lebron, 1 finals 0 wins. It's not a bad thing cuz alot of players can't win without a certain player. That is the situation with Kyrie for now. No Lebron, no title.
@@davis2k1234 what about Jordan. What did he do without pippen? At least pippen lead a 53 win Chicago team and was one bad call away from reaching the ECF. What do Kyrie do as the primary dude without bron. Bunch of lottery
Acho cooked😂 yall said dont base kyrie off one series but everyone literally hypes him off one finals like acho said since that finals kyrie has had mid af
I agree with your point about acho but it took arguably the greatest player ever to have the greatest comeback ever to get kyrie his only chip… He def ain’t that good for a #2
@templr44_ there’s a reason why kyrie has 0 rings without LeBron dude. Let’s stop actimg like we don’t have a 10+ yr sample size of kyrie without LeBron
What kind of idiotic question is this? Yall were literally anointing this man as the greatest Robin in the history of Robins last week. Kyrie clearly is still shook by Boston. Thats it. Stop the dumb segments
Still haven’t seen a single video from you guys, especially Joy Taylor giving the Boston Celtics credit for winning the championship after you all doubted them the entire season, specifically Joy Taylor. Where is that?
It's all recency bias. 2 weeks ago they were asking Is Luka and Kyrie the best backcourt in basketball. Now they saying Kyrie isn't a good enough enough #2. Pathetic!!
The media is trash. Just a week or so ago y’all was saying he’s one of the best second options, the most skilled backcourt, he can help Luka win because he helped Bron and now this. This is the exact reason why nobody should watch sports media at all.
Bruh just creating takes just to have debate and get clicks …. It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not you can tell he don’t really believe what he’s saying 🙄
You must have 3-players in their role consistently. Even those 6-championship Bulls of old that had Paxon/Armstrong, then Kucok/Rodman with the two dynamic stars.
I think the biggest issue the Mavs have is an inconsistent bench. Like Ric said, there is no clear number 3, and outside of Luka and Ky, none of those guys balled out in the Finals until game 4. I think we can easily say that was mostly due to the lackluster player of the Celtics in that game. If Dallas is going to get back and win next season, they need to build up their bench. Whether that's by hammering in necessary changes in your younger players, or going out and finding people who can fill those 3 and 4 spots.
This is EXACTLY what is wrong with these shows. These analysts go too extreme from one game to the next. The player is the greatest one game and then all washed up the next game.
Anyone defending Kyrie being a 1 dimensional players will hate and throw shade at all top 2 way players. All this time Kyrie hasn't done anything at all. While all the 2 way players continue to see either Conf Finals or Finals.
look at the media tryna rip apart luka and kyrie but slandering kyrie😂 plain and simple the mavs didn’t step up to the plate as a whole offensively. defensively the mavs held the celtics to the lowest point total in a 5 game stretch all year, it’s jus the mavs offence as a team couldn’t elevate
James jones is right. A wk ago kyrie and Luka was the best duo in basketball. Now kyrie is not a good #2 option. Peoples emotions are all over the place🤦🏾♂️
The problem with the Dallas was not the pair of Luka and Kyrie. They played a better team in Boston who had atleast 4 players on the court at any given time that could create their own shot and handle the ball they never faced a team like that in their play off run in the West. Mavs only had Luka and Kyrie all the others needed the ball in specific spots which the Celtics did a good job of taking away
It was easy to take away because the Mavs don't move the ball and their players don't move off the ball. They stand there and watch hoping Luka or Kyrie can collapse the defense to get an open corner 3. Had J Kidd implemented some type of offense other than iso, they could've created easy buckets for the other players even if that can't create their own shot. That's why the Nuggets and Celtics are the recent champs, they involve all their players on offense.
Acho was born to argue about nothing, I swear he'd argue his way out of chicken wings at Wingstop.
Stellar comment😂😂😂😂😂
Facts
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It’s literally his role to play devils advocate if everyone agree what’s to debate
One week ago, he was part of the greatest backcourt in the history of the NBA. And now he’s nothing ? 😂😂😂😂
Exactly 😂😂
media is lol😂
Facts 😂😂😂
It's because they want a scapegoat for Luka's putrid defense and whining to officials. White LeBron James
@@jctslice nahhhh there’s only one lebron James…. You better apologize!
This is why u can’t take acho takes seriously
How is acho wrong? Kyrie looked washed vs Boston. Kyrie ain’t washed cuz he had a good regular season but he looked scared and pathetic in the finals this year.
@@user-xv1sr3uy7pso it would have been better for his legacy to not have MADE IT TO THE FINALS AT ALL??
@@fredricksmith8760 it would have been better for his legacy to actually show up. There’s no excuse for how bad he played. The series would have gone to 7 games if he actually contributed 50% of what he did in the regular season
@@user-xv1sr3uy7p still doesn't TAKE AWAY from what he overcame this post season and his past accomplishments. I do wish he put up more of a fight. But if the White media is gonna frame it as LUKAS TEAM, the bulk of the blame should fall on him, just like it would LeBron or Jordan. Luka can't have it both ways, because even if Kyrie performed better ALL the accolades would have went to Luka.
😆 💯%
Luka’s lack of defense is a bigger issue than Kyrie. I can’t even believe this is a topic.
It's terrible
Y’all say this but Luka been playing this way lol. Nobody was expecting kyrie to play this bad.
Without Luka this team is in the lottery
How do the Mavs replace a 50/40/90 guy???
They talked the letdown of Luka and his lack of defensive effort yesterday.
Gotta get a lotta spin on every topic and non-issue and non-sense to keep people clicking. Long way to NFL and NBA again. So here we are.
Stop with the Kyrie hate.
Facts. Media loved him two weeks ago now they’re back to their old ways.
Fair question
@yahcrack it's been the same way for years with Luka and the mavs. When they lose, it's everybody else's fault but Luka
Why? What has he done in his whole career? Outside of the LeBron chip and this season he's been a loser. He's all time fun to watch. Handle goes crazy but he's not a winner. Never has been. He's got a 53% win percentage as a starter and that was boosted by Lebron's 4 years back in Cleveland. Outside of that he's rocking like a 38% record as a starter. He doesn't get it done.
How quickly they turn on you....SMH!
Acho right 2016 is Kyrie entire career when the media talks about him
He is totally right and he did with lebron
The best success of Kyrie Irving's career is cuz of LeBron James
NAH WE AIN’T DOING THIS. LET’S NOT SCAPEGOAT KYRIE. ANYTHING TO SAVE THE WHITE SAVIOR.
Kyrie is living off his REP.....he's no longer GREAT .... 35yr old guard....in what sport is he your BEST player?
Facts
Did you watch those 3 games in Boston?? Kyrie looked scared and played terrible
If Kyrie didn't disappoint you in the Finals, then you don't have a very high opinion of him to begin with.
@@TommyWest. Exactly lmao
If you look at Kyrie Irving's postseason averages this season, they are very similar to his playoff averages since he left Cleveland in 2017 (22 points and 5 assists per game, 44 FG%, 37 3P%). The problem is people have overvalued Irving since he hit that go-ahead jumper in the 2016 NBA Finals.
Since leaving Cleveland, Irving has had 10 playoff games where he scored at least 30 points (and seven came in this postseason) while having 16 games scoring 16 points or less. Although he got a reputation as a clutch player and big-time scorer while playing with LeBron James, Irving has been wildly inconsistent in the playoffs post-2017.
The best success of Kyrie Irving's career is cuz of LeBron James
@@jandt3463 You guys know ball.
And those 30pt games are fluff. He better had a advantage and still lost in the Conf finals. Or he scored more than 25 in garbage time when the game is already over. I watch the games and his defense is always non existent
@@roderickhclouden5107 Yup. Luka's defense got destroyed in these playoffs, no one said a single thing about Kyrie's defense, which is also horrible. That's what he does. He doesn't carry the burden of leading a team or being at the forefront, always playing Robin to a top 3 player in the NBA. Gets the praise but never the criticism. We saw what happened when he tried to lead a team in Boston.
@@ant4613 Not even a solid no 2 not named Lebron. It's not conjecture, its facts.
If Acho was Mavs GM, his move would be trade Kyrie and get another no.2. Sir you aren’t touching Celtics if your team isn’t deep
I’m here to officially say Ocho is a true Stephen a smith clone.
In the worse way
He did his homework?
acho* and hes better than stephan bay
Is it cuz acho is ya know 😂😂😂😂😂
@@stephonwilliams5232 huh
He is nothing like SAS. SAS is a way better commentary than any of these guys
SAS said he would kick a field goal on 3rd down because if you miss it you'll have another shot on 4th down 😂 SAS is dumb as a bag rocks when it come to sports
Kyrie was just in the FINALS. The same lame who said Jaylen, Brown, and Jason should be broken up. Shut up.
These conversations are just for entertainment. They don't mean everything they say. The way to evaluate players is to see what organizations end up doing.
They asking if he's a great no 2 on a championship squad. The best success of Kyrie Irving's career is cuz of LeBron James......
Kyrie 1-2 in the finals and hasn't won without Lebron
@templr44_ As I stated b4 to many who think it's an indictment on Kyrie, no one denies his importance on the Cavs. Since he left, tho, he has had 0 success (finals), thus his best success, circa 2024, is cuz of LeBron James.
Rick is a certified Tatum hater
He is a celtics hater..just talking stupid
He certified special needs.
He is allergic to winners. He has a thing for exaggerating mediocre.
He's been saying Tatum is the best on the Celtics, multiple times. Praising him for being the best overall player on the Celtics, how is he a Tatum hater
But he’s telling the truth. JT doesn’t win without Brown being at least a 1B. If Brown was a 2 or they didn’t have Holliday and even Porzingis’ game 1, Tatum would still be searching. He disappears.
That "pause" from Shady got me crackin 😂😂😂
You touched on it a lil bit 😭 thought I was the only one heard it
@@itslia9175 I instantly heard it but had to skip back again 😂😂
I had to backup and catch that. I got you now 🤣🤣🤣
He realized how dumb that sounded 😂😂😂
On me 😂
I have followed the Dallas Maverick for about 15 years now and seen nearly every Kyrie game with the Mavericks. Kyrie is still a special player. He was special all year. Unfortunately Luka was injured during the playoffs which changed the dynamics significantly.
We live in a world where you need to win a championship or you're a scrub. We've seen this team make the conference finals with Jalen Brunson and now the finals with kyrie. They made the finals because of the addition of kyrie. And if you're good enough to make the finals, then you're good enough to win it.
A injured luka was twice the player kyrie was during the finals.
No the team is not good enough team that was the problem
Real talk Kyrie didn’t get any blame for not showing up this series
People say anything
Facts Acho is very smart. He purposely says things to make sure there is an argument to be had. Even if he doesn't believe his own words
Archos likes to make noise! Kyrie, as much as I don’t care for, remains another elite no. 2! Next!
Sike
He wasnt that great in the Final. But the Dallas has more issue with the rest of the team and Luka lack of maturity.
@@tigera6Give credit to Jrue Holiday
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Its credit to the whole Boston team, especially their starting 5.
It took the greatest comeback ever to get kyrie a ring at 2 with arguably the greatest player ever 😂
He’s not good enough
Can’t blame Kyrie when Luka had the worse defensive rating ever and I’m a Mav fan…Luka fouling out when there was 5 minutes left in a 3pt game
What does Lukas defense have to do with Kyrie wetting the bed? Lol tf
That's the thing....when you have two high volume shooters that don't play defense....you can't have any off nights....they are your best two players on the team. Either you build your team around Luka/Kyrie or you trade one and do better!
That was the series ender right there. They could've been tied 2-2 when they went back to Boston instead of 3-1.
Kyrie didn’t show up for 4 games
Kyrie shooting was terrible
No we don't make enough about Luka's defense. Luka's fanboys in the media trying to tell us that we didn't see what we saw.
The best success of Kyrie Irving's career is cuz of LeBron James
Haha!!!!.
Luka looked lazy sloppy and slow
Luka basically averaged a triple double the whole playoffs 😂👉🤡
@@JediTiga Having Lebron would've helped him.
This is why i don't ever listen to acho about sports simply because not only he over thinks his arguments but it seems as if he want show you how articulate and intellectual he is instead of just using common sense lol?
Name a kyrie lead team that made the playoffs? I’ll wait the first three years in Cleveland the cavs was a lottery team , lebron come back and takes him to four finals other then that what has he done he’s just a good ball handler (pause)
Who is arguing he is a one
That’s a lame question. He was only a #1 for two years on the Celtics and his first year, he was injured and didn’t play in the playoffs. Very disingenuous question you made
@@BrothaSchwiftythe fact that he was injured his first year in Boston actually works against him because they went further in the playoffs when he wasn’t there.
@@jaydot4956 all that means is they played above expectations. Doesn’t mean that he couldn’t have gotten them further or that they were a better team without him
@@BrothaSchwifty “played above expectations”? Bro from 2017-2019 the Celtics had a record of 26-11 without kyrie, that’s a 70 percent win rate without their supposed best player, they also shot more efficient from the field and from 3 when Kyrie didn’t play. That’s not just a team playing above expectations.
Kyrie was perfect with Lebron because Bron is such a good scorer and playmaker it makes Kyries job much easier and he doesn’t have to playmake or anything else just hoop. Yes Luka is a good playmaker too but there is a difference between Lebron offenses and Luka offense. We have see Luka get fatigued and not to be able to score efficiently and playmake with a team that can switch multiple players on him.
And lebron was a great defender
Or Kyrie was 8 years younger lmao clowns
@@MikkiChavezexcuses I thought this was the best backcourt in nba history? 😂😂
The different gravity measurements on this flat earth messed up his psyche
@@MikkiChavez what did he do in Boston and Brooklyn net? How young was he?
Lmao 😂😂😂😂this man acho is just weird they went from celebrating kyrie to questioning his game for one bad series
acho do whatever the producers say do
The best success of Kyrie Irving's career is cuz of LeBron James.....
@@jandt3463 the best success of Lebron James career was Wade,Kyrie n AD …best success of KD career was w Steph …Magic Kareem ….Shaq had Kobe n Wade MJ didn’t win without pippen can go on n on Broski name 2 small gaurds outside of Steph with success in last 25 years
@@Ant_561 Everyonr needs a team. Kyrie had others but couldn't without Lebron, simple as that.
Its been more than one bad series lol
Khris middleton ‘21 was their main closer for that playoff run
Just a week ago this same show was saying “the best duo ever in the backcourt” to now Kyrie is washed! Why not talk about Luka??
They already did. It's tike for kyrie to take responsibility for being a bum during the finals. Kyrie no showed.
Because Luka didn't have 8 awful games in the playoffs
@@MadMan-vs2mcSo I guess Kyrie was the only one out there on the court?
@@I.am_GrootSo majority of those turnovers weren’t on Luka?
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m You can be mad at Luka all you want. Fact remains Luka got the Mavs to 2 of the last 3 WCF and Kyrie was a no-show offensively multiple games but lets be fair a Finals run was pretty magical Celtics are the better team. I say celebrate that and enjoy being good enough to play for a ring
The Kyrie glazing is crazy smmfh the fact that Kyrie and Luka at one point was considered the best backcourt in nba HISTORY shows people dont know basketball smmfh dudes so simple-minded they get jaded by fancy dribble moves 🤦🏿♂️
Dog nobody actually believed that. They just know they can get paid by yall if they say nonsense 😂
'22 andrew wiggs locked down Ja morat, Luka doncic , jason tatum & Jalen brown , with averaging 18 pts, 8 reb in finals yeah i will take '22 instead of kai in finals anyday
Acho wasn’t the 52 best player on a championship team & he didn’t win one. Lesean was the 52nd best player on those championships. He was on the bench for them 😂😂
Andrew Wiggins over Kyrie is crazy
The best success of Kyrie Irving's career is cuz of LeBron James
2022 Wiggins was a great 2 way player. Shut down Tatum, grab rebounds and made huge plays
Wiggins outplayed Tatum think about it
James Jones is on point. Acho is just hurt about the loss. Luka needed the type of player Kyrie is and vice versa.
Luka needed kyrie to score more than 13 points a game.
@@MadMan-vs2mcand Luka needed to stop getting DEMOLISHED on DEFENSE he was a LIABILITY
The best success of Kyrie Irving's career is cuz of LeBron James
5:25 What is James Jones talking about? "Kyrie only had 1 bad series???????" Dude act like Kyrie been winning champions every other year. Kyrie been getting beat in the playoffs every year for the past 7 or 8 years. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Dude shut up. It is the norm for Kyrie to get beat. It hasn't been the norm for Kyrie to win. There is much more evidence that Kyrie is NOT the guy anymore than evidence he is still the guy.
The best success of Kyrie Irving's career is cuz of LeBron James
And the fact he's had more series similar to this than actual good ones just shows Kyrie is living off of what he did almost a decade ago.
@@jandt3463 Other way around. But Kyrie is not what he once was.
@@edelmantoamendolaHow so? Lebron won without Kyrie, Kyrie hasn't without Lebron.
That lady was right about Acho.
That lady on SHANNON SHARPS SHOW AMANDA something or other 😂
Acho is the dude in the office meeting where he sounds smart but is just saying a bunch of mumbo jumbo lol
I won’t take kyrie over Jamal Murray
Neither...let me have Jrue Holiday over both.
@@ck7cujrue as a number 2 is a gentleman sweep first round 😂
Acho going for that “Bad Take” Crown with all his heart! 😂😂😂
What did acho say wrong ?????
Acho be saying ANYTHING!!! … That pause from Shady says it all!! 🤦🏾♀️
6:22 he's right. Kyrie has been living on that moment for like a decade.
The best success of Kyrie Irving's career is cuz of LeBron James
2 weeks ago. Kyrie was the MOST SKILLED PLAYER OF ALL TIME 😂
Luka has played better defense in the second half of the season. These guys need to update their research.
To say Luka had no effort? He was playing with a sprained knee and chest contusion. Kwahi would not have been in the stadium and Luka was showing up and getting a 30 point triple double on one leg.
You heard them, Luka gave up on defense. Early in the year, when Luka was healthy, he got smoked too. Luka needs to work on his conditioning ask Michael Finley. 😂
Let's be honest. He had a leg injury ever since he came into a league
It would help if Luka actually came into the season in shape…
On that buck vs suns series jru holiday wasn't the number 2 at all. Middleton average 20+ in the playoffs with 6 rebounds and 5 assist shooting 50 percent. Jrue was shooting 30 percent in the playoffs and averaged like 15 points. He was only good on defense
Kyrie went from beloved and best #2 in history to now he can’t be a #2 on a championship team man life comes at you fast
The best success of Kyrie Irving's career is cuz of LeBron James
@@jandt3463 why is lebron being brought up 😭
@tjr2312 As long as Kyries only success is cuz of LeBron, that will always happen. Like KD and Golden State, Pippen with Jordan. Until proven otherwise, Kyrie peaked being Lebrons sidekick......
@@jandt3463where was Lebron this playoffs
@@elislifestyle4605 The same place Kobe and Jordan were when Shaq and Pippen were in the playoffs and when Shaq won in 2006. They were home.
You can tell Shady struggled to say the word diagram 😂😂😂
Why did it take a NBA finals for people to realize Luka defense sucks!? Luka Defense was ALWAYS Horrible 😂
It didn’t. It took an nba finals for low IQ casuals like you to think you know how well he defends. Please enlighten me how they made the finals with a horrible defender (Luka) and no all nba defenders out there? Luke was playing on one leg and still held Tatum to atrocious shooting stats.
Boston Fan here. A bad serie doesn't make you a bad player. Kyrie payed amazing all year long. Boston knew how to defend on dallas and Boston was better. Dalllas lost and that's it. It not Kyrie's or Luka's fault. Dallas beat the west, they were the best team of the west. Now Boston vs Dallas, Boston was better in this serie. Just like Golden State was better than Boston back in 2022.
The best success of Kyrie Irving's career is cuz of LeBron James.
Man tell acho stop talking basketball make that man sit there while everyone else talks
are they forgeting luka has to do everything and carry the ball outside of kyrie? yes he should be more in shape but he needs the energy more for offense when its lacking shot creators
"What do you see?"
Hidden downvotes, but we all sense the ratio
Great take on Kyrie. I've been saying this about him for yeeeeears
Hopefully that Finals performance from Kyrie will help Kyrie not retire as the most overrated player in NBA history (because he was on that path) and people will finally start to rate him properly and stop swooning over him at every turn because of his playstyle. It was so tiring seeing him put in every conversation imaginable. People saying he's better than Steph and SGA, stuff like that. Ridiculous how much everybody is on his jock. And some people still defend him after those games in Boston where any other superstar would get obliterated. He's not held to the same standard as other superstars. He doesn't carry the burden of leading a team, yet is constantly in conversations against players that do. Like I said, tiring, and hopefully it's over now.
Giannis had 26ptsgame 4 but acho thinks 24 sounds better for his point for some reason
He also had 13rbs and 8assist
Achos answer about grabbing the fumble that’s on the ground. Is all you need to hear
Acho we simply looking at overall performance vs individual performances .
Hilarious hearing Acho calling football his 3rd favorite sport. 😂😂😂
Make sense, that's why he lasted a half minute
@@Dusty_Chicken84half a minute 🤣🤣🤣
“They push it to seven…”
*looks around*
…”they push it to six.”
lol 😂
The question is can be Luka the #1 on a championship ? These cats are wrong 90% of the time.
Luka is a superstar. Luka is already 10x the player kyrie ever was. Kyore was a no-show all series long, which cost the mavericks.
Facts he hasn’t shown it yet
I’m not saying luka aint have bad spots I think they just didn’t have the depth and treat to win
He killed a super team in Boston, Killed a super team in New Jersey, and came up empty in the finals. His championship led by Lebron in Cleveland was a log time ago. Also the Mavs were in a playoff spot when he was traded to them, and then proceeded to miss the playoffs.
The problem is Luka's defense not Kyrie. When Luka finally decided to play defense in game 4 the Mavs got off to a good start. If Luka gets in shape and commits to defense then the Mavs can take a step forward.
Been waiting on him to get in shape for years
The problem was kyrie no showing during the finals. No one on the mavs played great defense, but at least luka was good offensively, unlike kyrie, who was a bum
@@MadMan-vs2mc No. Tatum didn't score his normal output yet the Celtics won. It's because of DEFENSE.
Who ever is editing the videos needs to raise the audio levels.
JB and JT dont through enough assists . So Luka and Ky on Celtics would be way better .
Even kyrie bad shooting is as good as Tatum who nearly won finals mvp.
Luka alone on the Celtics would have several rings.
One MILLION PERCENT BULLSH*T. If they switched places the Mavs would win because Kyrie is too small on switches, Luka is overweight and out of shape and a HORRIBLE defender.
Even more bullsh*t. LUKA on the Celtics would be a hole that other teams could exploit, they will lose. LUKA is overrated, he's not Jordan, Kobe or LeBron at 25. 25 year old Jordan on the Mavs vs Celtics JORDAN WOULD HAVE AVERAGED 40PPG AND LOCKED UP BROWN OR TATUM.
@@SaySpawnbruh, switch Luka with Tatum or Brown and you have one of the best teams ever. You need to put the pipe down and take your meds. Put brown or Tatum on the Mavs and they barely make the playoffs.
Joker and Luca are tearing up the league and Acho starts talking athleticism. Larry Bird was not a freak athlete, but he played great defense.
Bro is literally in the finals !! Is he good enough ?? Yal crazy
The mavs are gonna extend his contract. So let these people keep talking
Exactly. You either win it all or you are trash. There is only two extremes. Beat player in league or muh trash player.
The best success of Kyrie Irving's career is cuz of LeBron James
@jandt3463 the dude just made the finals with Luka. What are you talking about?
@@nazimbelaidi6486 He didn't win. All that matters. 3 finals with Lebron and a title. No Lebron, 1 finals 0 wins. It's not a bad thing cuz alot of players can't win without a certain player. That is the situation with Kyrie for now. No Lebron, no title.
I STAND WITH AMERICANS AGAINST FOOTBALL PLAYERS TALKING BASKETBALL!
I enjoy these fellas man haha , at least they are in it stat wise .
The Dallas Mavericks will be back once they get more physical and athletic talent and Luka/ Kyrie tandem.
Kyrie never beating he is not a winner without Lebron James allegation.
I disagree u don’t know basketball
Pippen never made a Finals wo MJ and he was playing on super teams so like what are we talking about? Pippen wasn’t a winner?
He just takes alotnto build a tea. Around him frl. Plus, he is super moddy and injury prone
@@davis2k1234 what about Jordan. What did he do without pippen? At least pippen lead a 53 win Chicago team and was one bad call away from reaching the ECF. What do Kyrie do as the primary dude without bron. Bunch of lottery
U all had Mavs dnt want to hear it 😂😂💯💯💯🔥
Acho cooked😂 yall said dont base kyrie off one series but everyone literally hypes him off one finals like acho said since that finals kyrie has had mid af
"We can't let the way he played in the Finals change the way we look at him" is a ridiculous statement.
Asking this question after he just went to the finals as a #2 option is what’s wrong with sports media
Man Acho really remind me of the black version of Skip. Overly critical and just likes to be a shock jock
I agree with your point about acho but it took arguably the greatest player ever to have the greatest comeback ever to get kyrie his only chip…
He def ain’t that good for a #2
@templr44_ there’s a reason why kyrie has 0 rings without LeBron dude.
Let’s stop actimg like we don’t have a 10+ yr sample size of kyrie without LeBron
Kyrie looked good vs everyone except the Celtics it’s not that serious bro
What kind of idiotic question is this? Yall were literally anointing this man as the greatest Robin in the history of Robins last week. Kyrie clearly is still shook by Boston. Thats it. Stop the dumb segments
Still haven’t seen a single video from you guys, especially Joy Taylor giving the Boston Celtics credit for winning the championship after you all doubted them the entire season, specifically Joy Taylor. Where is that?
Kirie is overrated
It's all recency bias. 2 weeks ago they were asking Is Luka and Kyrie the best backcourt in basketball. Now they saying Kyrie isn't a good enough enough #2. Pathetic!!
And there goes the Underrated Curry vs Kyrie comparison. :)
Acho is the SAS and Keyshawn of SPEAK. There's always that one guy
The media is trash. Just a week or so ago y’all was saying he’s one of the best second options, the most skilled backcourt, he can help Luka win because he helped Bron and now this. This is the exact reason why nobody should watch sports media at all.
Bruh just creating takes just to have debate and get clicks …. It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not you can tell he don’t really believe what he’s saying 🙄
He trying to say you rather pick JB over Kyrie then sit there and paused realizing how stupid that sound 😂😂😂
The media will blame Kyrie, but won’t blame Luka for getting beat on defense every time down the court?
If Kyrie had won the championship, he wouldn't be saying that.
The best success of Kyrie Irving's career is cuz of LeBron James
If kyrie played good he wouldn’t say that thanks for having common sense
@@gideon7652 Exactly
If Kyrie had played well the mavs would have won. This argument is dumb as rocks.
@@JediTiga ngl Mavs would’ve still lost with him playing well
This conversation is absurd… they lost to a better team and the Celtics were just a horrible matchup for Dallas.
Acho is right about the one series with the Lakers... but he dropped Kyrie faster than Puffy did Shine...
Comparing Luka's scoring to Kyrie is a bad comparison. They're 2 totally different type of players and Kyrie's usage is way lower.
People dont understand what Kyrie did with Luka not too many all stars can put up the numbers he pit up this season.
You must have 3-players in their role consistently. Even those 6-championship Bulls of old that had Paxon/Armstrong, then Kucok/Rodman with the two dynamic stars.
He is not judging one series. He is including Defense. Its hilarious watching football people talk basketball and to think they actually get paid.
I think the biggest issue the Mavs have is an inconsistent bench. Like Ric said, there is no clear number 3, and outside of Luka and Ky, none of those guys balled out in the Finals until game 4. I think we can easily say that was mostly due to the lackluster player of the Celtics in that game. If Dallas is going to get back and win next season, they need to build up their bench. Whether that's by hammering in necessary changes in your younger players, or going out and finding people who can fill those 3 and 4 spots.
ACHO STOP MENTIONING BOSTON CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY THE COMMON DENOMINATOR WAS LEBRON then IT WAS KAWAI ACHO PLEASE STOP TALKING BASKETBALL
Mavs choked as a team plain & simple
One week ago, he was part of the greatest backcourt in the history of the NBA. And now he’s nothing ?
Acho is all about getting attention. He’ll just say anything to get clicks. The Celtics made KD look bad a few year ago in a sweep.
Dont watch media outlets. Find good podcasts instead
This is EXACTLY what is wrong with these shows. These analysts go too extreme from one game to the next. The player is the greatest one game and then all washed up the next game.
Anyone defending Kyrie being a 1 dimensional players will hate and throw shade at all top 2 way players. All this time Kyrie hasn't done anything at all. While all the 2 way players continue to see either Conf Finals or Finals.
Did he just compare Luka's defense to LeBrons😂😂😂😂
look at the media tryna rip apart luka and kyrie but slandering kyrie😂 plain and simple the mavs didn’t step up to the plate as a whole offensively. defensively the mavs held the celtics to the lowest point total in a 5 game stretch all year, it’s jus the mavs offence as a team couldn’t elevate
James jones is right. A wk ago kyrie and Luka was the best duo in basketball. Now kyrie is not a good #2 option. Peoples emotions are all over the place🤦🏾♂️
Shady's counter argument was correct; Celtics defense contained Kyrie, Kyrie took Dallas to the Finals. Aedin
Could this Celtics defense contain other top no.2 like AD/Lebron, Murray, Booker?
The problem with the Dallas was not the pair of Luka and Kyrie. They played a better team in Boston who had atleast 4 players on the court at any given time that could create their own shot and handle the ball they never faced a team like that in their play off run in the West. Mavs only had Luka and Kyrie all the others needed the ball in specific spots which the Celtics did a good job of taking away
It was easy to take away because the Mavs don't move the ball and their players don't move off the ball. They stand there and watch hoping Luka or Kyrie can collapse the defense to get an open corner 3. Had J Kidd implemented some type of offense other than iso, they could've created easy buckets for the other players even if that can't create their own shot. That's why the Nuggets and Celtics are the recent champs, they involve all their players on offense.