@@jaregon12 honestly my therapist almost said it as well, when he saw me switch once too. i was diagnosed a few years ago, from childhood trauma. having a little, a trauma holder, and a protector ,is very common.
I think it was implied that the daughter was more than just ''moody''. Of course she was wrong, she need to take her daughter to a therapist because you know what else is wrong? Not treating mental disorder, not giving someone medicine they need (it's MEDICINE, not ''substance'', you're saying as if it were some drugs ffs).
It was so frustrating hearing the mom get angry at her daughter because she believed she was lying, when she was literally drugging her daughter and lying to her about it!
@McLoed22 Exactly. What would have happened if she kept doing it for years and suddenly couldn’t get her prescription anymore or any other reason the daughter would have to go cold Turkey off of benzodiazepines? She could have died. Alcohol and benzodiazepines are pretty much the only drugs you can die from if you stop taking them without tapering off. But of course, this is only a scripted show. Unfortunately, it is a reality for some people out there though I’m sure.
@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 I don’t understand what you mean by saying that OP is wrong for calling it a controlled substance. That’s legitimately, technically what it is. Also, people do use it as a drug to get high on. People can abuse morphine, but it’s also a medication- a controlled substance that is highly addictive. Right? I’m just trying to figure out what was offensive or wrong about the other person’s statement.
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 Her "moods" were caused by her alters. And, depending how long she had been on them, she might be going through withdrawals, too.
“I didn’t want you to reach out for actual, real support and diagnosis, so I’ve just been drugging you and making you worse!” Mother of the mfking year.
@@threedragonstalk2123 it's a controlled substance so either she gave her kid someone else's prescription- or she failed to give the Dr all of her child's medical records. 😢 somethin ain't right
The image of an eight-ball and strawberries both triggered flashbacks that she experienced as allergic reactions. It's an extreme version of what all our brains are doing everyday. We most often notice it as a certain tastes or smells bringing us back to a moment in our childhood, but every mundane thing we ever do is experienced in the context of a million random rememberings and weird associations in an interconnected web our brain's been building all our lives.
I was a little relieved to learn the father hadn't sexually molested her; the cause of her DID was just unbearable guilt. Watching a parent die in front of you is more than enough to fracture a child's psyche. Adding incestual assault to the mix isn't just unnecessary, it's evil.
I just assumed she actually had a boyfriend. Either she has another persona, as discussed in the scene, who is the girlfriend of such, or she’s just a girl who’s too ashamed to admit. Either way makes sense. Then again, I’ve never watched this show. 🤷🏼♂️
@@bloodysweetzombiegirl DID involves this kind of abuse done to children. As far as I know, there are not registered cases of DID caused solely by other types of trauma. Guess the show didn't want to risk by going that far.
@@Dan_ChironIt's believed something like physical violence can cause DID, but I don't know what the exact data is. I do know that the trauma has to be in young childhood, (9 appears to be the cutoff, but most takes place previously. And it has to be severe and repetitive, so one traumatic incident would not cause DID.
Shocking how mom became furious when her daughter wasn’t being too honest, yet mommy was giving her daughter diazepam and that was ok? Telling her child it was vitamin c pills! Funny how as parents we react to the best interest of our children yet become arrogant when the child(ren) react similarly towards us (parents)!
Huh. This is normally what I try to convey to every adult that I meet when I told/tell them they are wrong about something back when I was a kid. And SOMEHOW IM FREAKING WRONG EVEN WHEN I DID REAEARCH FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS ON THE BLOODY SUBJECT!!? And it's because I'm YOINGER (Grits teeth) Than em.
Whater you people talking about? She's the mother, and thats her daughter, she's entitled to do whatever she wants. Doesn't have to explain herself to anyone. Authorities are entitled to use guile and subterfuge in order to control the situation, case closed, end of story!
Don't you just love, that parents who get mad at there children for hiding stuff. But once they are hiding something the kids should just forgive them ??
My fiancé is a therapist who specializes in DID. I went to a DID conference with him. Most people at the conference who had it had it due to long term repeated trauma rather than just 1 event but I do agree watching your dad die is incredibly traumatizing.
Considering how her mom reacts to her "being moody", there's probably a lot more subtle things going on than someone dying or any beatings. Your parents are supposed to be some of the people who support what you do and who you are the most, so your mom treating your emotions like they're something to hit with pills (even if she didn't know about the drugs until now) is some long term damage if I've heard of it. Also add on her visceral reaction to the other things the alters caused and you can imagine how their relationship works.
True, but I imagine daily thinking you were the direct cause for your fathers death and not being able to talk to anyone about it would put quite a mental strain on someone
@@capnfungi7875 Oh absolutely, but that's not the only thing she had to deal with; girl had massive issues that are perfect grounds for alters to show up, whether you mean DID (the creation of entirely new personalities) or OSDD (the separation of self/memories related to the incident that you can't bear to have, which become personalities of that point of yourself).
Perhaps you mean watching one's father die violently is potentially traumatizing. I watched my father die last year and had my hands on him as he slipped away. I felt his pulse stop. Yes, it was very upsetting, but as he'd been sick for a long time, after years of taking care of him, it was also a relief. At long last he wasn't suffering anymore.
@@sunniecaffey7907the mother was giving her them under the guise of vitamin C tablets it’s pretty safe to say she was planning on continuing to drug her for the foreseeable future
You can medicate teenage mood swings, but if you do, how do you expect the poor teen to learn to regulate her emotions? A skill which is absolutely essential in the adult world because we have to deal with other stupid humans and difficult life circumstances waaayyy too much to be able to handle life without self control.
Also, being moody is the right of any teenager. We were all moody, and now it is our payback time. Medicating your own teen daughter without even telling her is a breach of trust that may never recover.
Happens more often than you think, I have liver damage because of it. Kids trust what adults tell them so they have no real reason to question it unfortunately
Madison Davenport is an amazing actor. In one of her other roles her character got possessed at the end of one season. At the start of the next season I kept wondering if it was the same actor because she did so good at playing the other role. They did change her makeup/styling but it was really the way she changed everything from her voice to her mannerisms that made her so unrecognizable.
How strange, I watched my mother kill my father when I was 5. That the beginning. The year was 1956. The traumas continue to build. Physical & psychological abuse continued. I'd had enough from "family" & joined the Army at 17. It was 1969. The 1st year was great, and it was the best time of my life. For the 1st time I had all the food I wanted to eat. I was given fine weapons and taught to kill 50 different ways with them. I felt "safe" for the 1st time too. I learned well & was given more rank. I learned to do a speacilized job. Was given more rank. I felt important. Then, I was sent overseas to defend my country in a front line unit. I did good. The stress was bad. Then, I got hit and was badly hurt. Major operations took place. I was sent home. I was 19. I found myself being retired out of the Army on a disability. I wasn't fully aware of the facts at the time. But I had severe Ptsd & I was addicted to painkillers. As the years rolled by, things got pretty crazy. I had run-ins with various LEOs & did some time in prison. I got older. The VA spent 40 years drugging me & giving me higher disability ratings. You would not believe what a freaky long trip that was. Lots of drs who had no clue but they started labeling me from the DSM‐3, 4, 5,etc. I finally started going to talk with some very good civilian therapists & drs. They gave me more test, but these were not like the ones the VA had given me. Some very interesting things were uncovered. I went to see some other therapist. More exams & questions. But these were very different. I was amazed to learn that I was not the only personality I thought I was in my mind. Turned out, there were 5 of us. I can't tell you how strange it all was. It all made sense once it was all brought out. Now, I'm in my 70s. It's been a very hard & weird life, but I know what happened now. Complex Ptsd is all the rage these days. Lol The human mind is amazing. We all agree on that.
Thank you for sharing your story and for your military service. I'm amazed by your strength. You have my prayers. You're not just a survivor - you're a warrior.
VERY interesting. I went through a very traumatic experience last year after dealing with cptsd in childhood, and while it is very unlikely to be DID, I split into 5 other personalities, one of which was literally myself separate from external me as the host. We don’t really understand what happened, but we think my psyche shattered from betrayal, grief and heartbreak. For a while they would all speak to each other, sometimes they would take over, they fought, and my strongest personality (my intuition/survival instinct) didn’t even get along with external me or my representation inside my head. Each was a part of me, but they had different personalities, voices, interests, hopes and even hair colour/style/bodies. They kind of were reabsorbed earlier this year after a lot of therapy but the strongest one is still around and takes over without permission if I’m threatened or if I talk too much about my ex (which she perceives as a threat). It’s one of the strangest things I’ve ever heard of, and it made me fall even more in love with the brain than before (I’m a premed). Sorry for the super long description but because you said there were 5 of you and all of that, I related and wanted to share my experience. If you don’t mind talking about it, was your experience similar in any way?
What is it like, having other personalities "take over"? Since people apparently have to discover this is a thing they have, I'm guessing you aren't aware - but in that case, how do you experience the time during which another personality is driving? Do you lose time? How is information shared? If personality A makes a dentist appointment, does personality B know about it?
I love how Taub and Park were little Houses in that first scene. Park questioning Chase trying to figure out why he was lying; Taub with the "feel free to jump in at any time" the same line I think he used on Masters when she did her first diagnosis.
@@RaptorFromWeegee in a normal hospital setting yes. But everyone on the house team always was incessant about prying into each other's personal lives and analyzing each other both the men and the women, did you not watch the show?
@@The_Evening_Sun To be honest, no. I've only ever watched youtube clips of it. But I get your explanation and grudgingly agree. You gotta deviate from real world cause&effect in order to tell a better story.
@@RaptorFromWeegee ah I see. It kinda stems from how House to some degree is based on Sherlock Holmes. The original Sherlock from the novels being someone who could obsessively dig into a person's life and scenarios just by looking at different cues lick the way their hair is brushed and such, but at the same time possessed little to no care for social tact to the point of being offensive.
"I was drugging my daughter with anxiolytics behind her back, that's perfectly normal, but lying to me... EVIL!" All children deserve parents but many parents don't deserve children.
that bothered me too. She was the only one with the trust issues. But it's overwhelming to be a single parent. Some of your worst fears come true, plus new fear of not being able to pay that mortgage, put food on the table, have that emotional and financial security that if you have an issue in life, an illness, a big unexpected expense etc nobody will be there for you and if you fall your kid ends up in fostercare. You feel inadequate, maybe even that you're failing your kid, you don't always have someone there to help you, so i can see some people doing their best to control absolutely everything they can. So i'm not saying that what she did was right, i'm saying they both need a bit of help and understanding
I don’t know about that. My father lost custody due to conditions beyond his control. Later in life all of his kids blamed him for it but me. I was the only one in his life and I was the only one at his bedside when he died from cancer. He left me as is sole heir. He didn’t have anything of value to hand down to me. I think it was more of a statement. Its hard to agree that my siblings deserved him.
@@seth7745 they were not born with those vices, by default, what I said is true. But their choices as adults change that for them, and only then. Not before, or for other people. they were not children when they chose hatred. it is their fault at that point.
Giving someone, anyone, mood altering drugs without letting them know is basically gaslighting them. How are they supposed to work through their emotions if they can’t figure out why sometimes they are relaxed and sometimes they are unable to control themselves.
Ahh, so the "boyfriend" is a prosecutor/misguided protector. He was trying to get her to leave the hospital for their own safety, and resorted to physical violence. As someone with DID, I really dont know how to feel about this episode. Definitely some of the most accurate representation I've seen for DID on any television media, but still got some things wrong. It takes multiple/recurring traumatic experiences to develop DID. Generally its developed between ages 5-8. The switching of alters was a bit unrealistic at times, like Iris' vision going blurry and yet able to tell the doctors something happening instead of being froze up. The instantaneous switching was very good though, the method House used to get "boyfriend" switched in was brilliant! I realized what was going on as soon as "boyfriend" switched in, that was a super cool moment to see that I didn't expect! Definitely think they should've included some moments of Iris disassociating though, as it tends to happen quite frequently in people with DID. Every DID system is different though. I also don't quite understand the pregnancy thing. Did a different alter have sex and Iris wasn't aware of it? Or are they saying that one alter is pregnant and having related symptoms but the body itself is not pregnant? Thats possible, but I don't know why the test would pop positive unless that specific alter was fronting during the test, resulting in the brain releasing pregnancy hormones because in that alter's perspective, they are pregnant. Usually hypnosis isn't a good idea for DID patients as a consistent treatment, because digging too deep into locked away memories can have very negative results (like additional splitting of alters). In a situation like this though I could definitely see it being beneficial. It's not a completely accurate representation, but it is definitely the most accurate and the least myth-perpetuating representation I've seen in just about any fictional work so far. To the team who worked on this episode, amazing job and thank you! It feels really nice to be seen!
It's really impressive. Especially since this came out in 2011. Like, 12 years ago and it got that much rather well when so many other shows since then had been much much much worse.
I was diagnosed with DID due to being sex trafficked as a child and just wanted to add a bit of clarity. DID only forms from severe repeated trauma that you experience when your brain is still developing (as a young child). It’s incredibly hard to diagnose because the whole point of having DID is to shield your brain from trauma, so you’re not aware that anything is wrong with you. I’m 24 now and got diagnosed when I was 21 in a residential treatment facility Edit: I forgot this comment existed, but I wanted to add a bit more context for the people in the comments saying DID can form without trauma. That’s not true. Complex trauma is required to receive a DID diagnosis, but there are tons of other dissociative disorders. There’s something called OSDD which can present itself the same as DID, however, can be present without trauma. They’re very similar, but can develop under different circumstances. If you think you could potentially have a dissociative disorder, please reach out to a professional and know that you’re not alone. ♥️ Thanks everyone for the support and likes!!
Take care! Also know that you can eventually integrate them into fewer or even one personality. It just takes a lot of time and effort (and therapy, of course!). Having fewer personalities to handle improves the life quality significantly.
@@Kiss_My_Aspergers I have a friend with DID, and she's made me well aware that alters are not just parts of someone's brain, but also their own people who have as much desires and worries as anyone else, including their own life. To try and effectively kill those other people through integration is always a terrible idea, and treating it as a way to "cure someone" does way more harm than having the alters ever could. Treat the other people inside you as people, work with them to operate through life, and you'll make it through together.
I felt I was lied too at a very young age by my father. my mother made him see sense they never told me she did that Nearly a decade of my life I had a grudge which was unwarranted. (I think? [English is 3 languages in a trenchcoat])
"Being normal is very important to Iris!" *Proceeds to have violent/traumatized multiple personalities and bleed/bruise everywhere.* I spat out my coffee. Damn, Kate Fuller cannot catch a break in any reality.
I'd just like to clarify something, they say in the episode that it is something "too dificult to accept", that is a bit missleading, It is something "too difficult to handle". Also its not that the alters dont have to accept it. The alters are created to shield the host from the events and memories that they can not handle, where the Alters are able to handle and protect the host from further trauma. Its a defensive mechanism in the brain. - From someone with DID.
Man they got the little to come out. As someone who’s met someone with DID, coaxing the littles out is so hard sometimes they’re so scared of everything
Probably managed that because at the end of the day they want to protect well. The body for the most part in this case. And without talking to them all of them would be in danger
I can't imagine any doctor prescribing benzos to a child without directly evaluating them just because the mother asked for it to give them. That's insane. She could have gotten the diagnosis sooner if her mother weren't so selfish. Heaven forbid she have to put in the work of helping her daughter get to the root cause of her "moodiness", a lot more convenient to just drug her instead. Absolutely despicable
A lot of stuff in the media about multiples personalities, such as one of them being a serial killer, is nonsense. But having a very young personality is real. I saw one come out in a friend of mine. Later, she totally refused to believe it when three witnesses told her about it. I believe that she had a self harming one, as well. Her BF said that she often accidentally gets pins on her bed and then rolls over onto them, which does not make a lot of sense. She was seriously abused as a child by her older brother, who seems to have been a sociopath. They were both adopted.
Some people are adversely affected by diazepam. Memory loss, moodiness, sleep walking, ect. Side effects must be monitored, and without the child being informed, mom's putting her in danger.
2:09 the moment she said she was giving her daughter diazepam for “moodiness”, without her child’s consent…he should’ve gotten police involved. Even if some awful doctor prescribed it to the daughter without the daughter’s knowledge at the mother’s request, that’s so wrong and illegal. Informed consent is vital!
@@HolySpicoli Children can give medical consent. Your comment actually victimizes children, by basically saying they have zero say in what happens to them medically.. Children SHOULD be involved in medical decisions. Focus, i know this might be a bit hard for you to understand..but... Children can’t give consent when it comes to sex. But when it comes to medical needs.. CHILDREN SHOULD BE CONSULTED and allowed to consent or refuse treatments. You’re not advocating for kids, you’re HARMING THEM.
Resolution for PTSD. Is correct about the diagnosis and immature use of mislabeling vitamin c inappropriately as an adult parent. I could never lie to my child. That’s trust. Unconditional love and support, PRN.
Not worth getting too hung up on semantics. They change the psychological terminology constantly. I'm old enough to remember when DID/MPD was called "split personality". Its the thing Sybil had. Schizophrenia was call "Dementia Praecox", Anti-social personality disorder was called, "Moral Insanity", and so on and so on.
DID is more precise, since it's less about personality and more about identity, and it's a dissociative disorder which kind of categorizes it together with other similar ones.
This girl portrayed Ethel. The 13 year old girl that Kevin and Veronica adopted until she ran away in the show called Shameless. She was rescued from a cult where she had been married to an old man. This girl is a very good actress👌
This is almost a possible case but the details are pretty unlikely (and definitely incomplete). Alters can hallucinate other alters as separate people that they think they interact with in the real world, or false memories of such interactions can exist, often as a way of covering memory gaps. There are a few things that bother me. First, this is a covert DID system that just becomes overt and highly communicative with doctors (and thus visible to the oblivious host) on day one. This kind of progress often takes about 10 years of failed psychotherapy before the patient happens to be seen by a trained professional who spots the difference between DID and disorders like borderline personality did and PTSD. Second, if one alter has a relationship with another it’s usually the case that they both know that they are alters, or something like it. In that context even romantic relationships have happened. I just never heard of this specific dynamic of an oblivious host in a romance with an alter they hallucinate or have a false memory of them being a separate person in the world. as being. It also typically takes the reality or perception of inescapable prolonged trauma to cause DID, and this must occur within the first 9 years of childhood, if not earlier. You are not going to develop DID without dissociating regularly and pretty severely, and you usually dissociate to that extent when you feel like you can’t escape the trauma by fawning, fleeing, or fighting. You also won’t develop it as a tween or teen if it was not present before. Dissociation is not only s trauma response. Young children dissociate almost constantly, and they are most susceptible if the prolonged trauma starts or continues through the ages of about 4-9. Usually DID also involves moral trauma involving disorganized attachment. Moral trauma is trauma involving an element of guilt or shame. Disorganized attachment is having a social attachment to a caregiver which is punctuated by abuse, severe neglect, or abandonment, especially repeated abuse or severe neglect, such as an abusive mother who is moderately affectionate some of the time and highly abusive or highly neglectful at other times, often beginning in early childhood but continuing until at least age 4. Neurodivergence (including autism) or physical illness and injury involving prolonged pain are often factors, and the kind of trauma most associated with DID is caregiver s*xual abuse, torture, or child trafficking. Often most and the worst traumatic memories are hidden to the most frequently conscious alters.
well said. My understanding is that dissociation is normal in young children, and the disorder (whether DID or others such as OSDD 1A/2A/B (formerly DD-NOS), is a failure to integrate b/c of sustained trauma exactly as you described. In a sense, it is a completely normal response to an abnormal environment,.
We have to remember the detail that her life is in danger and the alters likely understand full well that if 1 goes they all go on some fundamental level. So that explains the time and appearance issue since some alters can reveal themselves in time or without a choice. For the dynamic one. The patient is the original. She is not an alter specifically. Her "boyfriend" is. And they likely mentally ahem. As her mind expected then the alter fronted and handled the rest. While we don't know her entire situation. The mother was willing to do diazeapam unprescribed due to moodiness. That's not a good sign for the houses health. Add in the car accident so young and the innate guilt it would form one. And from there more could form over time.
you were right about most things. however DID isnt just caused by prolonged trauma but also large trauma. she lost her dad and her mind couldnt process it, so it produced the boyfriend to help her cope through it. however the worse she felt about her dad the more her boyfriend would be there. trauma is defined as "a deeply distressing or disturbing experience" bullying can be trauma, even if just verbal and emotional bullying. abuse, even verbal, can be trauma. or having something bad happen that the brain may struggle to process such as an accident, or someone dying. for me, my trauma was being bullied, being attacked by dogs and almost dying. those 3 things plus a life of undiagnosed autism means I may have BPD. and whilst thats not DID it is also a trauma response and people with BPD can think they have DID or just have both. but you get my drift
That moodiness as a child was probably caused by trauma from the accident. The mom made the worst mistake putting her kid on pills to make the problem just "go away" so she wouldn't have to deal with it
Just the one season. She's super cute, the character is good with a good arc in the first two episodes. Later she has short arc with chase that's really engaging.
In their defense, he had some hypnosis training (a "rotation in Melbourne"), although in medical hypnosis not psychiatric. Assuming there's a difference.
It's sad and dangerous when parents don't understand that they are not a doctor and that a medicine that needs to be prescribed cannot be given to a someone just like that. Antianxiolitics are not aspirins, even a very small fractured dose should not be given without being prescribed by a real doctor after real tests. My mother did this. She didn't do it behind my back, she gave me half of one of her Alprazolam and scolded me to swallow it. I was having severe anxiety attacks, severe and long somatization and she thought it was the only way to get me out of bed. After taking half a pill, I was completely drugged and had difficulty talking. I had to concentrate on putting one foot in front of the other. I fell asleep in the toilet, I thought I had fainted when I woke up on the floor, face against the door. She still doesn't admit to having pressured me at a time when I was vulnerable to take a medication that I didn't want to take because I knew that medications that affect the brain are dangerous. Especially with my epilepsy. She still says "it's okay, it was only a very small dose, I take much stronger ones". The difference is that this medication was prescribed to her, with an appropriate dosage in relation to her weight (around 20 kg heavier than me), also taking into account that the dose was inflated because her body was resistant to medication. Alprazolam is known to be very strong and addictive. Given the state I was in with half a pill, I can easily believe it. Parents, you are not a doctor. If your child is so bad that you think medication is necessary, see the doctor.
Can't brain damage cause DID? I realize that receiving brain damage is usually traumatic, but it is nominally possible to get it absent any conscious experience.
@@jakepullman4914 DID only manifests when you experience trauma severe enough for your subconscious/unconscious to be convinced you wouldn't survive resulting in a level of dissociation so high it prevents the natural integration of one's person. Experiencing a car crash ad a child is pretty universally traumatic, so I really don't get your opposing stance here
@@tminusboom2140 Haven't heared from that yet. Personality changes from damage definitely yes, but early disrupted personality integration coupled with extreme levels of dissociation is a thing of conscience by today's knowledge. It wouldn't surprise me if literal damage can do it too, but I have yet to encounter a consensus stating so
@@Daffodillon Not sure how you read that as an opposing stance. Do you just assume anyone who says something different from you is opposition? I was just saying that the child could have been traumatized in ways the mother isn't aware of, because trauma isn't always obvious from a bystander's point of view. Because it's not an objective thing.
From a diagnosed D.I.D. System, A little upset that they said DID is also known as MPD, which isn't exactly true. It was called that way back in the day and it is slightly easier to understand. But docs are trying to separate that term from DID because they are totally different identity as a whole, people can have different personalities. But other than that I'm amazed on how accurate this is to D.I.D. How some alters remember curtain truama, thats kinda the point. And the little reference of how some alters date one another. This is my favorite House clip to date.
As a system myself I was also pretty surprised at the accuracy of the condition! I do agree MPD and DID are different but I think it's probably so they don't have to explain to viewers what the concept of DID is
@@RippingStars Same here Some people don't know what D.I.D is and they only understand it once you use what else it's called which is multiple personality disorder then it clicks
Where have u seen it? This video wasn't a perfect representation of DID, but it was one of the better and still acurate ones. That's why i wonder how/where u've seen it.
Maybe the mother understated her daughter moodiness . Her daughter clearly has issue from childhood trauma but deeply suppressed so no one could have guessed there were so widely differing personalities in her. Both as a doctor and as a child with issues I say give the mother a break , she did what she could while trying not to hurt the self worth of a teenager.
But seriously diazepam?! You do not give it unless it is a prescription from doctor..If she was giving it to her daughter without it she is guilty of poisoning a child. Where was "trying not to hurt" part.
@@lubystkaolamonola529 Obviously the show is known to skip somethings and overdramatise others , that's why anyone who have ever worked in healthcare know how stupid most of these solves are. Top notch drama though. For ex. In this scene , daughter clearly have anxiety disorders and panic attacks and for the sake of drama a subtle enough DID that escapes everyone except House who's never even seen the patient till then , benzodiazepines are a good medicine for her symptoms (though ssri works better if you discount the till that time unknown dissociation identity disorder ) and she might be put back on them alongside chemo but they didn't show that in show. Thing is diazepam is not an OTC and require a priscription. The mother in the episode doesn't seem to show any irresponsible behaviour , is attentive to her daughter , understand teenage troubles, doesn't blame her and is conscious of her daughter situation, so I assume it's unlikely she would just start giving her daughter a priscription medicine just on her own. Most likely she asked a psychiatrist to assess her daughter in friendly non clinical environment as some personal favour. It's not unheard of. But if that were the case there would be doctor's note in her health file. Such inconsistency though are replete in the show usually for some dramatic effects. Thing is most doctors are not Sherlock Holmes to know that a patient's spouse is cheating by seeing their skin tan ( though a particular orange person comes to mind at that) , But most House episodes have so convoluted sequence and reasoning that most doctors would reach the diagnosis in less number of steps and less near-dead patients. But yes , I too categorise my diagnosis as either its Lupus! or not Lupus!
@@drewpott Just because someone is moody, it's not worth it to drug someone, especially without a medical license. All teenagers are moody at some point in their life. It is illegal to impersonate emergency services and use drugs that you need a license to use
Right??? Me too! I fucking can´t remember and i don´t know why.....watched the whole series too and not just one time....watched it at least 10 times and still can´t remember 😮😮😮😮
S8 ep7, you don't remember because it wasn't the main part of the episode , there were 3 stories going on and the last part of the episode wasn't about this
"Boys, do a home search. Girls, do a lab test. Pretty sure that's not sexist." Hmm. Considering some men wouldn't even consider women running the lab test, I don't think so.
we've been diagnosed with C-DID (Complex Dissociative Identity Disorder) a little over a year ago, DID comes from repeated childhood trauma during the time a child personality forms, (usually between the ages of 2-9 years old, 12 at the latest)
@@nimamehranfar8310To those who have suffered the traumas that induce DID, they aren't "imaginary"... The alters surface at times when the person is emotionally overwhelmed as a means of protecting them from further trauma. It is akin to what some might refer to as a fractured personality; I think of it more like the facets of a diamond... Each facet, or side, reflects a bit differently and yet each of them is necessary to see (and appreciate) the gem as a whole.
Well it's specifically just for helping someone get into a certain state of mind so that the alters come out and speak. It's not hypnosis in the "I can control you" way
This series touched so ma y conditions that enlightened so many. They also tackled tough sociological and mental conditions that case not discussed. Miss House and all their participants.
Gonna comment before watching the rest of the video. She says she 'takes vitamin C sometimes". Uh, no follow-up questions? Like how much, and when is sometimes? Well, hitting play and seeing if that is where this goes. lol
Well, the vitamin narrative did have a use but not what I thought unless she owned up to taking the vitamins a lot more often than suggested in a later part of the show.
This show knocks it out of the park once again with it's medical inaccuracies. No wonder so many kids on TikTok think they have DID if this is what TV says it is.
@@John-Doe-Yo Just, DID results from severe, sustained trauma in early childhood causing a disruption in the formation of a cohesive personality as a psychological defense mechanism. Not saying a one-off traumatic incident isn't traumatic, or that it can't provoke dissociation, but it doesn't DID make. Also that it's a cryptic illness, secrecy and hiding the condition is part of the condition. Also also that diagnosis isn't usually made until your 30's, often because of how cryptic the illness is. And I agree, Split can join the rest of Hollywood's villianised version of a mental health illness in the sensationlisation dumpster fire.
At the end when she's bleeding, what is that from? If she's pregnant like they discuss, I'd imagine it's a miscarriage. If she's not actually pregnant. And that was a psychological symptom. Is it her period or body basically starting full force due to finally overcoming the mental block she had about what had happened with the car and her father?
This case is briefly discussed further within the "4 Year Old Boy Exhumed to Find Out the Cause of his Death" clip that was posted 8 days afterwards. (They're both from the same episode.) But there wasn't much left about this one... maybe a minute or two worth of details.
It's not hard to believe that living in a home where your mother denied that you have experienced trauma and was the kind of person that freaked out whenever you were the slightest bit anxious or sad. Perhaps living in a home with a mother that had no shoulder for HER to cry on so she took it out on her daughter. DID comes from long term and persistent trauma, and considering the quality of life you live at, something as simple as going a month without internet could be traumatic. Humans used to have kids almost once a year because most of them would die before they reached adulthood, think about having siblings around you dying and your parents having seemingly no empathy as they go at it again and again and compare it to the life you live now and realize that "trauma" as we try to define it medically has no basis for how our bodies experience it.
Anyone who’s had a head MRI knows it’s not like that. There’s a big contraption like a plastic cage clamp kinda thing that holds the head in place. It’s stuffed with padding pieces… the head is snug in there.
Find out the final diagnosis today at 18:00 (BST) !👀🩺
Yesss 15 minutes!
what season and episode is this ?
I don’t know but this is definitely a interesting episode
@@DyreElsker78 Season 8 but I forget the episode #.
@@DyreElsker78 the description says it
House's smirk when the "boyfriend" confronts him, is just priceless.
I half expected house to say "cool" after doing it.
@@jaregon12 honestly my therapist almost said it as well, when he saw me switch once too.
i was diagnosed a few years ago, from childhood trauma.
having a little, a trauma holder, and a protector ,is very common.
Mpd baby
@@jaregon12 I did say cool and was expecting him to as well lol.
I didn't notice a smirk from him.
She gave her teenage daughter a highly addictive, controlled substance because she thought she was "moody"? I think we know where the crime is here.
I think it was implied that the daughter was more than just ''moody''. Of course she was wrong, she need to take her daughter to a therapist because you know what else is wrong? Not treating mental disorder, not giving someone medicine they need (it's MEDICINE, not ''substance'', you're saying as if it were some drugs ffs).
It was so frustrating hearing the mom get angry at her daughter because she believed she was lying, when she was literally drugging her daughter and lying to her about it!
@McLoed22
Exactly. What would have happened if she kept doing it for years and suddenly couldn’t get her prescription anymore or any other reason the daughter would have to go cold Turkey off of benzodiazepines? She could have died. Alcohol and benzodiazepines are pretty much the only drugs you can die from if you stop taking them without tapering off. But of course, this is only a scripted show. Unfortunately, it is a reality for some people out there though I’m sure.
@yevgeniyaleshchenko849
I don’t understand what you mean by saying that OP is wrong for calling it a controlled substance. That’s legitimately, technically what it is. Also, people do use it as a drug to get high on.
People can abuse morphine, but it’s also a medication- a controlled substance that is highly addictive. Right? I’m just trying to figure out what was offensive or wrong about the other person’s statement.
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 Her "moods" were caused by her alters. And, depending how long she had been on them, she might be going through withdrawals, too.
“I didn’t want you to reach out for actual, real support and diagnosis, so I’ve just been drugging you and making you worse!” Mother of the mfking year.
Actually, ironically the drug WAS helping, the problem was that by helping it was masking the symptoms making it harder for her to get diagnosed.
So masking symptoms isn't actually helping
@@threedragonstalk2123 it's a controlled substance so either she gave her kid someone else's prescription- or she failed to give the Dr all of her child's medical records. 😢 somethin ain't right
Yes mother, yell at your child to tell you the problems shes having, thatll work like a charm
right I was like yeah that's gonna make her trust you and want to tell you things.
Exactly. Psychologist here. Everything that mother does creates the opposite effect than what she thinks. Unfortunately it's not really that uncommon.
Worked on me and I’m a dude . I now hate my mother .
Can confirm 😂
This never worked unless the preferred outcome was to make me a better liar, hider, and sneak.
The image of an eight-ball and strawberries both triggered flashbacks that she experienced as allergic reactions. It's an extreme version of what all our brains are doing everyday. We most often notice it as a certain tastes or smells bringing us back to a moment in our childhood, but every mundane thing we ever do is experienced in the context of a million random rememberings and weird associations in an interconnected web our brain's been building all our lives.
right
And her arms are not able to move because in the memory of her two year old self, her arms are strapped down and she can’t freely move them.
I was a little relieved to learn the father hadn't sexually molested her; the cause of her DID was just unbearable guilt. Watching a parent die in front of you is more than enough to fracture a child's psyche. Adding incestual assault to the mix isn't just unnecessary, it's evil.
I just assumed she actually had a boyfriend. Either she has another persona, as discussed in the scene, who is the girlfriend of such, or she’s just a girl who’s too ashamed to admit. Either way makes sense. Then again, I’ve never watched this show. 🤷🏼♂️
Why would it be added to the mix when it didn’t take place???
@@bloodysweetzombiegirl You misunderstand me. I'm saying I'm relieved that it didn't take place at all.
@@bloodysweetzombiegirl DID involves this kind of abuse done to children. As far as I know, there are not registered cases of DID caused solely by other types of trauma. Guess the show didn't want to risk by going that far.
@@Dan_ChironIt's believed something like physical violence can cause DID, but I don't know what the exact data is. I do know that the trauma has to be in young childhood, (9 appears to be the cutoff, but most takes place previously. And it has to be severe and repetitive, so one traumatic incident would not cause DID.
Shocking how mom became furious when her daughter wasn’t being too honest, yet mommy was giving her daughter diazepam and that was ok? Telling her child it was vitamin c pills! Funny how as parents we react to the best interest of our children yet become arrogant when the child(ren) react similarly towards us (parents)!
Getting a minor hooked on benzodiazepines is child abuse.
Parenting fail.
Think I'm gonna need a nap.
Huh.
This is normally what I try to convey to every adult that I meet when I told/tell them they are wrong about something back when I was a kid. And SOMEHOW IM FREAKING WRONG EVEN WHEN I DID REAEARCH FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS ON THE BLOODY SUBJECT!!? And it's because I'm YOINGER
(Grits teeth) Than em.
Whater you people talking about? She's the mother, and thats her daughter, she's entitled to do whatever she wants. Doesn't have to explain herself to anyone. Authorities are entitled to use guile and subterfuge in order to control the situation, case closed, end of story!
Don't you just love, that parents who get mad at there children for hiding stuff. But once they are hiding something the kids should just forgive them ??
My fiancé is a therapist who specializes in DID. I went to a DID conference with him. Most people at the conference who had it had it due to long term repeated trauma rather than just 1 event but I do agree watching your dad die is incredibly traumatizing.
Considering how her mom reacts to her "being moody", there's probably a lot more subtle things going on than someone dying or any beatings. Your parents are supposed to be some of the people who support what you do and who you are the most, so your mom treating your emotions like they're something to hit with pills (even if she didn't know about the drugs until now) is some long term damage if I've heard of it. Also add on her visceral reaction to the other things the alters caused and you can imagine how their relationship works.
True, but I imagine daily thinking you were the direct cause for your fathers death and not being able to talk to anyone about it would put quite a mental strain on someone
@@capnfungi7875 Oh absolutely, but that's not the only thing she had to deal with; girl had massive issues that are perfect grounds for alters to show up, whether you mean DID (the creation of entirely new personalities) or OSDD (the separation of self/memories related to the incident that you can't bear to have, which become personalities of that point of yourself).
What about someone with DID who has never had any trauma? Where do these conferences take place? How can one join?
Perhaps you mean watching one's father die violently is potentially traumatizing. I watched my father die last year and had my hands on him as he slipped away. I felt his pulse stop. Yes, it was very upsetting, but as he'd been sick for a long time, after years of taking care of him, it was also a relief. At long last he wasn't suffering anymore.
Mother that secretly drugs her daughter: "wHaT eLsE dOn'T i kNoW aBoUt?"
you got a manicure🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And a benzo nonetheless. That kind of wothdrawl can literally kill.
Ikr
@zacharytaylor190 you would have to be be taking a strong dose daily for an extended amount of time
@@sunniecaffey7907the mother was giving her them under the guise of vitamin C tablets it’s pretty safe to say she was planning on continuing to drug her for the foreseeable future
Momma been drugging her daughter with Valium and she wants to call the cops on her daughter for hitting herself.
She didn’t know it was herself, she thought some guy knocked her up then abused her
@@Aegon1 Check this out. Have you heard of this thing called sarcasm? Some people are gifted with it.
@Lol-es7ok you're a dumb dumb.
@AK Lemon cant use sarcasm as an excuse for being wrong.
@Lol And they read into it badly. Case in point *jesters around the comments*
So mom resorts to secretly drugging her child so she doesn't have to actually parent. And people say this show is unrealistic.
Clearly this mother doesn't remember being a teenage girl. Moodiness kind of is part of the whole puberty thing.
? That's not what she said.
Her mom probably drugged her up too at that point
@@nikkimcdonald4562 But she put her child on meds.
Ya think! Teen Valium Vitamins hmmm interesting concept lol
You can medicate teenage mood swings, but if you do, how do you expect the poor teen to learn to regulate her emotions? A skill which is absolutely essential in the adult world because we have to deal with other stupid humans and difficult life circumstances waaayyy too much to be able to handle life without self control.
Also, being moody is the right of any teenager. We were all moody, and now it is our payback time.
Medicating your own teen daughter without even telling her is a breach of trust that may never recover.
Your pay back time? Then we'll respond with a vengeance.
@@TheUnseenPath Our Vengeance will be greater than yours.
@@TheUnseenPath That vengeance will never take place. Cause in real life that mother will be sticking to a prison cell for child abuse :)
What's with all the parents in this show drugging their kids and calling it "vitamins"?
Vitamin chill
@@NoHomerS 😂😂😂
Happens more often than you think, I have liver damage because of it. Kids trust what adults tell them so they have no real reason to question it unfortunately
It's a soft take off of Gypsy Rose's story.
I just got orange tic tacs & was told they were "pills to help me concentrate!" 😂😂😂
Jeez that "baby it's going to be ok" got me tearing up.. so sad 😢
Well and then watching him nod off because of the head trauma... That was scary
I felt sick. What a band-aid
She’s such a good little actor did is hard to convey accurately
Madison Davenport is an amazing actor. In one of her other roles her character got possessed at the end of one season. At the start of the next season I kept wondering if it was the same actor because she did so good at playing the other role. They did change her makeup/styling but it was really the way she changed everything from her voice to her mannerisms that made her so unrecognizable.
@@feelingReckless13 "Are you staring at me? ...I didn't think so."
How strange, I watched my mother kill my father when I was 5. That the beginning. The year was 1956. The traumas continue to build. Physical & psychological abuse continued. I'd had enough from "family" & joined the Army at 17. It was 1969. The 1st year was great, and it was the best time of my life. For the 1st time I had all the food I wanted to eat. I was given fine weapons and taught to kill 50 different ways with them.
I felt "safe" for the 1st time too.
I learned well & was given more rank. I learned to do a speacilized job. Was given more rank. I felt important. Then, I was sent overseas to defend my country in a front line unit. I did good. The stress was bad. Then, I got hit and was badly hurt. Major operations took place. I was sent home. I was 19. I found myself being retired out of the Army on a disability. I wasn't fully aware of the facts at the time. But I had severe Ptsd & I was addicted to painkillers. As the years rolled by, things got pretty crazy. I had run-ins with various LEOs & did some time in prison. I got older.
The VA spent 40 years drugging me & giving me higher disability ratings. You would not believe what a freaky long trip that was.
Lots of drs who had no clue but they started labeling me from the DSM‐3, 4, 5,etc. I finally started going to talk with some very good civilian therapists & drs. They gave me more test, but these were not like the ones the VA had given me. Some very interesting things were uncovered. I went to see some other therapist. More exams & questions. But these were very different. I was amazed to learn that I was not the only personality I thought I was in my mind. Turned out, there were 5 of us. I can't tell you how strange it all was. It all made sense once it was all brought out. Now, I'm in my 70s. It's been a very hard & weird life, but I know what happened now.
Complex Ptsd is all the rage these days. Lol The human mind is amazing. We all agree on that.
Thank you for sharing your story and for your military service. I'm amazed by your strength. You have my prayers. You're not just a survivor - you're a warrior.
@valjoriesheppard8084 If you Google my name "Glenn Brymer" you can see my stories.
I can only hope my generation has the strength you have, sir
VERY interesting. I went through a very traumatic experience last year after dealing with cptsd in childhood, and while it is very unlikely to be DID, I split into 5 other personalities, one of which was literally myself separate from external me as the host. We don’t really understand what happened, but we think my psyche shattered from betrayal, grief and heartbreak. For a while they would all speak to each other, sometimes they would take over, they fought, and my strongest personality (my intuition/survival instinct) didn’t even get along with external me or my representation inside my head. Each was a part of me, but they had different personalities, voices, interests, hopes and even hair colour/style/bodies. They kind of were reabsorbed earlier this year after a lot of therapy but the strongest one is still around and takes over without permission if I’m threatened or if I talk too much about my ex (which she perceives as a threat). It’s one of the strangest things I’ve ever heard of, and it made me fall even more in love with the brain than before (I’m a premed). Sorry for the super long description but because you said there were 5 of you and all of that, I related and wanted to share my experience. If you don’t mind talking about it, was your experience similar in any way?
What is it like, having other personalities "take over"? Since people apparently have to discover this is a thing they have, I'm guessing you aren't aware - but in that case, how do you experience the time during which another personality is driving? Do you lose time? How is information shared? If personality A makes a dentist appointment, does personality B know about it?
I love how Taub and Park were little Houses in that first scene. Park questioning Chase trying to figure out why he was lying; Taub with the "feel free to jump in at any time" the same line I think he used on Masters when she did her first diagnosis.
I agree, why is it any of Parks damned business how Chase choses to groom himself. If the positions were reversed Chase would be fired for sexism.
Taub with everybody lies
@@RaptorFromWeegee in a normal hospital setting yes. But everyone on the house team always was incessant about prying into each other's personal lives and analyzing each other both the men and the women, did you not watch the show?
@@The_Evening_Sun To be honest, no. I've only ever watched youtube clips of it. But I get your explanation and grudgingly agree. You gotta deviate from real world cause&effect in order to tell a better story.
@@RaptorFromWeegee ah I see. It kinda stems from how House to some degree is based on Sherlock Holmes. The original Sherlock from the novels being someone who could obsessively dig into a person's life and scenarios just by looking at different cues lick the way their hair is brushed and such, but at the same time possessed little to no care for social tact to the point of being offensive.
"I was drugging my daughter with anxiolytics behind her back, that's perfectly normal, but lying to me... EVIL!"
All children deserve parents but many parents don't deserve children.
that bothered me too. She was the only one with the trust issues. But it's overwhelming to be a single parent. Some of your worst fears come true, plus new fear of not being able to pay that mortgage, put food on the table, have that emotional and financial security that if you have an issue in life, an illness, a big unexpected expense etc nobody will be there for you and if you fall your kid ends up in fostercare. You feel inadequate, maybe even that you're failing your kid, you don't always have someone there to help you, so i can see some people doing their best to control absolutely everything they can. So i'm not saying that what she did was right, i'm saying they both need a bit of help and understanding
Hypocrisy.
I don’t know about that. My father lost custody due to conditions beyond his control. Later in life all of his kids blamed him for it but me. I was the only one in his life and I was the only one at his bedside when he died from cancer. He left me as is sole heir. He didn’t have anything of value to hand down to me. I think it was more of a statement. Its hard to agree that my siblings deserved him.
@@seth7745 they were not born with those vices, by default, what I said is true. But their choices as adults change that for them, and only then. Not before, or for other people. they were not children when they chose hatred. it is their fault at that point.
Getting a minor hooked on benzodiazepines is child abuse.
Giving someone, anyone, mood altering drugs without letting them know is basically gaslighting them. How are they supposed to work through their emotions if they can’t figure out why sometimes they are relaxed and sometimes they are unable to control themselves.
...and physically abusing them as well
Ahh, so the "boyfriend" is a prosecutor/misguided protector. He was trying to get her to leave the hospital for their own safety, and resorted to physical violence. As someone with DID, I really dont know how to feel about this episode. Definitely some of the most accurate representation I've seen for DID on any television media, but still got some things wrong.
It takes multiple/recurring traumatic experiences to develop DID. Generally its developed between ages 5-8. The switching of alters was a bit unrealistic at times, like Iris' vision going blurry and yet able to tell the doctors something happening instead of being froze up. The instantaneous switching was very good though, the method House used to get "boyfriend" switched in was brilliant! I realized what was going on as soon as "boyfriend" switched in, that was a super cool moment to see that I didn't expect! Definitely think they should've included some moments of Iris disassociating though, as it tends to happen quite frequently in people with DID. Every DID system is different though.
I also don't quite understand the pregnancy thing. Did a different alter have sex and Iris wasn't aware of it? Or are they saying that one alter is pregnant and having related symptoms but the body itself is not pregnant? Thats possible, but I don't know why the test would pop positive unless that specific alter was fronting during the test, resulting in the brain releasing pregnancy hormones because in that alter's perspective, they are pregnant.
Usually hypnosis isn't a good idea for DID patients as a consistent treatment, because digging too deep into locked away memories can have very negative results (like additional splitting of alters). In a situation like this though I could definitely see it being beneficial.
It's not a completely accurate representation, but it is definitely the most accurate and the least myth-perpetuating representation I've seen in just about any fictional work so far. To the team who worked on this episode, amazing job and thank you! It feels really nice to be seen!
It's really impressive. Especially since this came out in 2011. Like, 12 years ago and it got that much rather well when so many other shows since then had been much much much worse.
@@slimek20 it really is, a good example for future media projects
Someone with DID might also be prone to false pregnancy syndrome.
they were saying one of her alters had sex and she was not aware of it.
@@mariahdibben4066 Gotcha, thanks for the clarification!
I was diagnosed with DID due to being sex trafficked as a child and just wanted to add a bit of clarity. DID only forms from severe repeated trauma that you experience when your brain is still developing (as a young child). It’s incredibly hard to diagnose because the whole point of having DID is to shield your brain from trauma, so you’re not aware that anything is wrong with you. I’m 24 now and got diagnosed when I was 21 in a residential treatment facility
Edit: I forgot this comment existed, but I wanted to add a bit more context for the people in the comments saying DID can form without trauma. That’s not true. Complex trauma is required to receive a DID diagnosis, but there are tons of other dissociative disorders. There’s something called OSDD which can present itself the same as DID, however, can be present without trauma. They’re very similar, but can develop under different circumstances. If you think you could potentially have a dissociative disorder, please reach out to a professional and know that you’re not alone. ♥️ Thanks everyone for the support and likes!!
Take care! Also know that you can eventually integrate them into fewer or even one personality. It just takes a lot of time and effort (and therapy, of course!). Having fewer personalities to handle improves the life quality significantly.
Wouldn’t say only repeated trauma, but severe trauma. Nevertheless, God bless you and I hope you’re able to have a relatively normal and healthy life.
ok
@gb1reinwald Integration is not always the goal. Please update your understanding of Systems. Thank you.
@@Kiss_My_Aspergers I have a friend with DID, and she's made me well aware that alters are not just parts of someone's brain, but also their own people who have as much desires and worries as anyone else, including their own life. To try and effectively kill those other people through integration is always a terrible idea, and treating it as a way to "cure someone" does way more harm than having the alters ever could. Treat the other people inside you as people, work with them to operate through life, and you'll make it through together.
withholding information from your kid is one thing, lying to them is another. Lying to your kid destroys trust.
I felt I was lied too at a very young age by my father.
my mother made him see sense they never told me she did that
Nearly a decade of my life I had a grudge which was unwarranted.
(I think? [English is 3 languages in a trenchcoat])
Ms. Madison Davenport showing her awesome range as always. She's so talented!
"Being normal is very important to Iris!" *Proceeds to have violent/traumatized multiple personalities and bleed/bruise everywhere.* I spat out my coffee. Damn, Kate Fuller cannot catch a break in any reality.
@@idy3176 she did on Black Mirror!
Love her as materia in final fantasy dissidia
@@mary-janereallynotsarah684Which episode of Black Mirror? I don't recognize her. 🤔
@@mary-janereallynotsarah684
Nevermind! I figured it out. 😊
I'd just like to clarify something, they say in the episode that it is something "too dificult to accept", that is a bit missleading, It is something "too difficult to handle". Also its not that the alters dont have to accept it. The alters are created to shield the host from the events and memories that they can not handle, where the Alters are able to handle and protect the host from further trauma. Its a defensive mechanism in the brain. - From someone with DID.
Man they got the little to come out. As someone who’s met someone with DID, coaxing the littles out is so hard sometimes they’re so scared of everything
And the older personalities only want to protect the little
Probably managed that because at the end of the day they want to protect well. The body for the most part in this case. And without talking to them all of them would be in danger
What’s the little??
@@torakunoichi"littles" are alters that are very small in terms of age (around 0-6 years).
As someone watching through this channel that is the WORST cliffhanger possible.
I can't imagine any doctor prescribing benzos to a child without directly evaluating them just because the mother asked for it to give them. That's insane. She could have gotten the diagnosis sooner if her mother weren't so selfish. Heaven forbid she have to put in the work of helping her daughter get to the root cause of her "moodiness", a lot more convenient to just drug her instead. Absolutely despicable
Maybe they weren't prescribed to the daughter? Possibly mom was getting a prescription for herself and "sharing" some of them.
@@jakepullman4914
Not seeing it
A lot of stuff in the media about multiples personalities, such as one of them being a serial killer, is nonsense. But having a very young personality is real. I saw one come out in a friend of mine. Later, she totally refused to believe it when three witnesses told her about it.
I believe that she had a self harming one, as well. Her BF said that she often accidentally gets pins on her bed and then rolls over onto them, which does not make a lot of sense.
She was seriously abused as a child by her older brother, who seems to have been a sociopath. They were both adopted.
This actress is AMAZING! She deserves more credit!
the girls boyfriend is herself poor girl is just lonely she needs your love🤣
Mom calling her a liar is beyond rich
Some people are adversely affected by diazepam. Memory loss, moodiness, sleep walking, ect. Side effects must be monitored, and without the child being informed, mom's putting her in danger.
Getting a minor hooked on benzodiazepines is child abuse.
Spoilers***
It was cancer. She wasn't pregnant.
Thank you. I was wondering why she was bleeding at the end
@@zelorig8887 ovarian cancer
Thanks! I'd been wondering too
2:09 the moment she said she was giving her daughter diazepam for “moodiness”, without her child’s consent…he should’ve gotten police involved. Even if some awful doctor prescribed it to the daughter without the daughter’s knowledge at the mother’s request, that’s so wrong and illegal. Informed consent is vital!
A child cannot give consent
@@HolySpicoli Children can give medical consent. Your comment actually victimizes children, by basically saying they have zero say in what happens to them medically.. Children SHOULD be involved in medical decisions. Focus, i know this might be a bit hard for you to understand..but... Children can’t give consent when it comes to sex. But when it comes to medical needs.. CHILDREN SHOULD BE CONSULTED and allowed to consent or refuse treatments. You’re not advocating for kids, you’re HARMING THEM.
@@BMarie774 sorry i'm not sure which word i used was too complicated for you to understand
Park: *prying Chase for answers*
Chase: Did House give you homework?
Park: …
i wondered why i recognised her then remembered she plays ethel on shameless
Resolution for PTSD. Is correct about the diagnosis and immature use of mislabeling vitamin c inappropriately as an adult parent.
I could never lie to my child. That’s trust. Unconditional love and support, PRN.
Not worth getting too hung up on semantics. They change the psychological terminology constantly. I'm old enough to remember when DID/MPD was called "split personality". Its the thing Sybil had. Schizophrenia was call "Dementia Praecox", Anti-social personality disorder was called, "Moral Insanity", and so on and so on.
DID is more precise, since it's less about personality and more about identity, and it's a dissociative disorder which kind of categorizes it together with other similar ones.
Sorry that the APA strives through research to more finely tune their diagnostic criteria, boomer.
@@tmm6884 i dont think he was complaining
Love that the projections fly, and the insults come out as first weapon. It truly is diagnostic to see what triggers that response.
Who was getting hung up on semantics?
This girl portrayed Ethel. The 13 year old girl that Kevin and Veronica adopted until she ran away in the show called Shameless. She was rescued from a cult where she had been married to an old man. This girl is a very good actress👌
3:39 I cant express how much I love that piano playing
This is almost a possible case but the details are pretty unlikely (and definitely incomplete). Alters can hallucinate other alters as separate people that they think they interact with in the real world, or false memories of such interactions can exist, often as a way of covering memory gaps.
There are a few things that bother me. First, this is a covert DID system that just becomes overt and highly communicative with doctors (and thus visible to the oblivious host) on day one. This kind of progress often takes about 10 years of failed psychotherapy before the patient happens to be seen by a trained professional who spots the difference between DID and disorders like borderline personality did and PTSD.
Second, if one alter has a relationship with another it’s usually the case that they both know that they are alters, or something like it. In that context even romantic relationships have happened. I just never heard of this specific dynamic of an oblivious host in a romance with an alter they hallucinate or have a false memory of them being a separate person in the world. as being.
It also typically takes the reality or perception of inescapable prolonged trauma to cause DID, and this must occur within the first 9 years of childhood, if not earlier. You are not going to develop DID without dissociating regularly and pretty severely, and you usually dissociate to that extent when you feel like you can’t escape the trauma by fawning, fleeing, or fighting. You also won’t develop it as a tween or teen if it was not present before. Dissociation is not only s trauma response. Young children dissociate almost constantly, and they are most susceptible if the prolonged trauma starts or continues through the ages of about 4-9.
Usually DID also involves moral trauma involving disorganized attachment. Moral trauma is trauma involving an element of guilt or shame. Disorganized attachment is having a social attachment to a caregiver which is punctuated by abuse, severe neglect, or abandonment, especially repeated abuse or severe neglect, such as an abusive mother who is moderately affectionate some of the time and highly abusive or highly neglectful at other times, often beginning in early childhood but continuing until at least age 4. Neurodivergence (including autism) or physical illness and injury involving prolonged pain are often factors, and the kind of trauma most associated with DID is caregiver s*xual abuse, torture, or child trafficking. Often most and the worst traumatic memories are hidden to the most frequently conscious alters.
well said. My understanding is that dissociation is normal in young children, and the disorder (whether DID or others such as OSDD 1A/2A/B (formerly DD-NOS), is a failure to integrate b/c of sustained trauma exactly as you described. In a sense, it is a completely normal response to an abnormal environment,.
DID isn’t even real lmao, plenty of therapists don’t recognize it as a real diagnosis. Even the popular cases were a lie.
We have to remember the detail that her life is in danger and the alters likely understand full well that if 1 goes they all go on some fundamental level. So that explains the time and appearance issue since some alters can reveal themselves in time or without a choice.
For the dynamic one. The patient is the original. She is not an alter specifically. Her "boyfriend" is. And they likely mentally ahem. As her mind expected then the alter fronted and handled the rest. While we don't know her entire situation. The mother was willing to do diazeapam unprescribed due to moodiness. That's not a good sign for the houses health. Add in the car accident so young and the innate guilt it would form one. And from there more could form over time.
you were right about most things. however DID isnt just caused by prolonged trauma but also large trauma. she lost her dad and her mind couldnt process it, so it produced the boyfriend to help her cope through it. however the worse she felt about her dad the more her boyfriend would be there. trauma is defined as "a deeply distressing or disturbing experience"
bullying can be trauma, even if just verbal and emotional bullying. abuse, even verbal, can be trauma. or having something bad happen that the brain may struggle to process such as an accident, or someone dying. for me, my trauma was being bullied, being attacked by dogs and almost dying. those 3 things plus a life of undiagnosed autism means I may have BPD. and whilst thats not DID it is also a trauma response and people with BPD can think they have DID or just have both. but you get my drift
Yess I agree I had undiagnosed autism that led to severe dissociation as a child and I developed alters.
My favorite thing about this is, in the end her being her own boyfriend who is into animal abuse, has nothing to do with anything and she has cancer 😂
This mother made me angry she literally drugged her. and she’s made at her bruh
Isn't that how toxic and dysfunctional people work?
5:55 Mental wounds not healing, life's a bitter shame.....
…I’ve grown up with this song and I didn’t know those were the words. 😅
@@ToqTheWise It's Ozzy Osborne. What do you expect? But I'm pleased people are getting the reference.
I'm going off the rails on a crazy tra-ain.
I was like “a car crash wouldn’t cause DID- oh…yep, that’ll do it!”
The mom giving her child diazepam should have been reported to child services. In fact being doctors they HAD to report her.
The girls’ face after the doctor told her mom that they should run a pregnancy test lol 2:40
The BEST KDrama I have ever seen (Kill Me, Heal Me) is about a guy with DID … I was really well done.
Being a Teenager is One of the biggest Life Cycles We All Experi-
ences. People need ro aknowledge it more often. ❤
What got to me all she went though all do an old car accident and she saw her daddy die that young that brually too so sad all around
I am now watching this show. Thank you. This is why they should be allowed to post more free stuff
now Chase is trained in hypnosis🤣🤣🤣
I mean he did train hypnosis indeed. He did it in the latest episodes of season 4 as well.
That man can hypnosis me any day!!
That moodiness as a child was probably caused by trauma from the accident. The mom made the worst mistake putting her kid on pills to make the problem just "go away" so she wouldn't have to deal with it
Charlene Yi was on House? I love her! I may have to go back and watch her seasons now.
Her entire performance is flat, wooden and generally not enjoyable. In most of the fandom's generalized agreement. Just an fyi :0
I know right?? I didn't know she was the voice actress for Steven Universe until I recognized her voice. Pretty cool!!
She sucks the life out of every scene she's in. She was bad enough in Knocked Up with 45 seconds of screen time. How can you like her?
@@azazellon I agree. The whole noobie cast was extremely boring imo
Just the one season. She's super cute, the character is good with a good arc in the first two episodes. Later she has short arc with chase that's really engaging.
Wow. If they ever needed someone to play a young Natalie Dormer in flashback sequences .... 😃😃
How did they not see the bruises earlier! Someone should report these doctors
Bruises showed up that night when the alter boyfriend took control. She best herself up
Stop hitting yourself, no seriously.
Hypnosis is being done by Chase and not a professional psychiatrist?! Oh, please....
In their defense, he had some hypnosis training (a "rotation in Melbourne"), although in medical hypnosis not psychiatric. Assuming there's a difference.
@@MaxwellsDemon9 Hypnosis is a very complicated process and nobody but a professional should be allowed to conduct that
It's just a television show. It isn't even a reality show. No need to overthink or take it so seriously. Just enjoy it for what it is.
@@ladennayoung2939 I know that it's a television show, duh. A small accuracy won't hurt though.
@@raizahasmath5580I'm not complaining about that compared to some of the CPR they've done 😂
It's sad and dangerous when parents don't understand that they are not a doctor and that a medicine that needs to be prescribed cannot be given to a someone just like that. Antianxiolitics are not aspirins, even a very small fractured dose should not be given without being prescribed by a real doctor after real tests. My mother did this. She didn't do it behind my back, she gave me half of one of her Alprazolam and scolded me to swallow it. I was having severe anxiety attacks, severe and long somatization and she thought it was the only way to get me out of bed. After taking half a pill, I was completely drugged and had difficulty talking. I had to concentrate on putting one foot in front of the other. I fell asleep in the toilet, I thought I had fainted when I woke up on the floor, face against the door. She still doesn't admit to having pressured me at a time when I was vulnerable to take a medication that I didn't want to take because I knew that medications that affect the brain are dangerous. Especially with my epilepsy. She still says "it's okay, it was only a very small dose, I take much stronger ones". The difference is that this medication was prescribed to her, with an appropriate dosage in relation to her weight (around 20 kg heavier than me), also taking into account that the dose was inflated because her body was resistant to medication. Alprazolam is known to be very strong and addictive. Given the state I was in with half a pill, I can easily believe it. Parents, you are not a doctor. If your child is so bad that you think medication is necessary, see the doctor.
child: has severe illness literally only caused by trauma
mother: child didn't experience any trauma
......
Can't brain damage cause DID? I realize that receiving brain damage is usually traumatic, but it is nominally possible to get it absent any conscious experience.
Trauma's pretty subjective. Some people's minds have extreme reactions to things that others cope fine with.
@@jakepullman4914 DID only manifests when you experience trauma severe enough for your subconscious/unconscious to be convinced you wouldn't survive resulting in a level of dissociation so high it prevents the natural integration of one's person. Experiencing a car crash ad a child is pretty universally traumatic, so I really don't get your opposing stance here
@@tminusboom2140 Haven't heared from that yet. Personality changes from damage definitely yes, but early disrupted personality integration coupled with extreme levels of dissociation is a thing of conscience by today's knowledge. It wouldn't surprise me if literal damage can do it too, but I have yet to encounter a consensus stating so
@@Daffodillon Not sure how you read that as an opposing stance. Do you just assume anyone who says something different from you is opposition? I was just saying that the child could have been traumatized in ways the mother isn't aware of, because trauma isn't always obvious from a bystander's point of view. Because it's not an objective thing.
From a diagnosed D.I.D. System,
A little upset that they said DID is also known as MPD, which isn't exactly true. It was called that way back in the day and it is slightly easier to understand. But docs are trying to separate that term from DID because they are totally different identity as a whole, people can have different personalities.
But other than that I'm amazed on how accurate this is to D.I.D. How some alters remember curtain truama, thats kinda the point. And the little reference of how some alters date one another. This is my favorite House clip to date.
As a system myself I was also pretty surprised at the accuracy of the condition! I do agree MPD and DID are different but I think it's probably so they don't have to explain to viewers what the concept of DID is
@@RippingStars Same here
Some people don't know what D.I.D is and they only understand it once you use what else it's called which is multiple personality disorder then it clicks
System?
Why did she start hemorrhaging??
@@ilexevergreen5405 System is the word we use to describe all the people in our head! An alter is a single person
Ive never seen disasociative identity disorder like this!😮
Where have u seen it?
This video wasn't a perfect representation of DID, but it was one of the better and still acurate ones. That's why i wonder how/where u've seen it.
This is pretty accurate tho
Maybe the mother understated her daughter moodiness . Her daughter clearly has issue from childhood trauma but deeply suppressed so no one could have guessed there were so widely differing personalities in her.
Both as a doctor and as a child with issues I say give the mother a break , she did what she could while trying not to hurt the self worth of a teenager.
But seriously diazepam?! You do not give it unless it is a prescription from doctor..If she was giving it to her daughter without it she is guilty of poisoning a child. Where was "trying not to hurt" part.
Yeah cut her some slack, she just drugged her cause she was "moody"
I hope you’re not a doctor
@@lubystkaolamonola529 Obviously the show is known to skip somethings and overdramatise others , that's why anyone who have ever worked in healthcare know how stupid most of these solves are. Top notch drama though.
For ex. In this scene , daughter clearly have anxiety disorders and panic attacks and for the sake of drama a subtle enough DID that escapes everyone except House who's never even seen the patient till then , benzodiazepines are a good medicine for her symptoms (though ssri works better if you discount the till that time unknown dissociation identity disorder ) and she might be put back on them alongside chemo but they didn't show that in show.
Thing is diazepam is not an OTC and require a priscription. The mother in the episode doesn't seem to show any irresponsible behaviour , is attentive to her daughter , understand teenage troubles, doesn't blame her and is conscious of her daughter situation, so I assume it's unlikely she would just start giving her daughter a priscription medicine just on her own.
Most likely she asked a psychiatrist to assess her daughter in friendly non clinical environment as some personal favour. It's not unheard of. But if that were the case there would be doctor's note in her health file. Such inconsistency though are replete in the show usually for some dramatic effects.
Thing is most doctors are not Sherlock Holmes to know that a patient's spouse is cheating by seeing their skin tan ( though a particular orange person comes to mind at that) ,
But most House episodes have so convoluted sequence and reasoning that most doctors would reach the diagnosis in less number of steps and less near-dead patients.
But yes , I too categorise my diagnosis as either its Lupus! or not Lupus!
@@drewpott Just because someone is moody, it's not worth it to drug someone, especially without a medical license. All teenagers are moody at some point in their life. It is illegal to impersonate emergency services and use drugs that you need a license to use
Wait, why didn't I remember this episode? I watched the whole series...😳😳
Right??? Me too! I fucking can´t remember and i don´t know why.....watched the whole series too and not just one time....watched it at least 10 times and still can´t remember 😮😮😮😮
S8 ep7, you don't remember because it wasn't the main part of the episode , there were 3 stories going on and the last part of the episode wasn't about this
You have multiple personalities disorder, wake up
@open ur eyes there was 2 stories not 3
@@UmbreonDarkness69 There were*
love the flirty back and forth between Chase and Park.
drugging a child without their knowledge is child abuse and those doctors were required to report the mom
Lots of kids are on medication and don't know what they take. Are you going to arrest all those parents?
@@SR-iy4gg YES....
"Boys, do a home search. Girls, do a lab test. Pretty sure that's not sexist."
Hmm. Considering some men wouldn't even consider women running the lab test, I don't think so.
The mom is mad at the daughter for keeping stuff to herself while she was drugging her
Anyone else think that this actress has the same look and mannerisms as Jena Malone (the daughter in Stepmom)?
Well THAT took a turn.
we've been diagnosed with C-DID (Complex Dissociative Identity Disorder) a little over a year ago, DID comes from repeated childhood trauma during the time a child personality forms, (usually between the ages of 2-9 years old, 12 at the latest)
No you haven't lol
@@oiltycoonbillionaireoh, omniscience. Fun
We? are you counting yourself and your imaginary alters?
@@nimamehranfar8310 cause of alters , they refers to all
@@nimamehranfar8310To those who have suffered the traumas that induce DID, they aren't "imaginary"... The alters surface at times when the person is emotionally overwhelmed as a means of protecting them from further trauma. It is akin to what some might refer to as a fractured personality; I think of it more like the facets of a diamond... Each facet, or side, reflects a bit differently and yet each of them is necessary to see (and appreciate) the gem as a whole.
To be honest I thought the girl was being assaulted while she’s asleep, that’s why she didn’t know why she was pregnant.
How did she became pregnant? Did the second personality have sex with someone while the girl is unconscious?
@@Violence4Breakfastyes
@@Violence4Breakfast She had cancer but it appeared to be pregnancy because similar enzymes or something.
Poor girl. Mental illness is tough. I can't imagine going through that though.
almost all cases initially have very minor diseases but once they admit. they starts having other problems. 🤔
Young teenage girl who doesn't use drugs knows what an "8-ball" is? Yeah she does something.
Cutting edge medical drama tackles rare diseases with the most up to date knowledge and equipment..... let's use hypnosis! 😂
ah yes lets expect a series filmed in 2004-2012 to be able to predict the medical future! Because the "new" medical shows are so accurate and reliable
Well it's specifically just for helping someone get into a certain state of mind so that the alters come out and speak. It's not hypnosis in the "I can control you" way
@@thisisaperson660 hypnotism is pseudo science, even when it aired.
This is why I’ll never buy the inalienable rights of parents as a law of the land. It’s a ludicrous and naive proposition.
GREAT ! now this surgeon is also a Hypnosys expert.
He did this in the episode before the Season 4 finale.
@@Sal_Sal27 yeah and there was also an episode where house becomes a VETERINARIAN.
he uses hypnosys two or three times, and once on House even
nah arrests this woman fast
This scene was AWESOME
I have an incredibly visceral reaction to the mother. It’s absolutely horrible to drug a child without their knowledge.
And people say my GF is imaginary 😒
at least her boyfriend had a physical body
@@thisisaperson660 😂
Lmao I was actually tearing up about her blaming herself for the accident and then I saw your comment and my eyes were like tears?
This series touched so ma y conditions that enlightened so many. They also tackled tough sociological and mental conditions that case not discussed. Miss House and all their participants.
0:58 I was just thinking she sounds like house rn
Any other mother will be arrested for giving her kids not prescribed drugs
The girl played it better than some RUclipsrs
Gonna comment before watching the rest of the video. She says she 'takes vitamin C sometimes". Uh, no follow-up questions? Like how much, and when is sometimes? Well, hitting play and seeing if that is where this goes. lol
Well, the vitamin narrative did have a use but not what I thought unless she owned up to taking the vitamins a lot more often than suggested in a later part of the show.
This show knocks it out of the park once again with it's medical inaccuracies. No wonder so many kids on TikTok think they have DID if this is what TV says it is.
What’s inaccurate? I remember after the movie split came out there was an uptick in people claiming to have DID but this doesn’t seem too outlandish.
@@John-Doe-Yo Just, DID results from severe, sustained trauma in early childhood causing a disruption in the formation of a cohesive personality as a psychological defense mechanism.
Not saying a one-off traumatic incident isn't traumatic, or that it can't provoke dissociation, but it doesn't DID make.
Also that it's a cryptic illness, secrecy and hiding the condition is part of the condition.
Also also that diagnosis isn't usually made until your 30's, often because of how cryptic the illness is.
And I agree, Split can join the rest of Hollywood's villianised version of a mental health illness in the sensationlisation dumpster fire.
@@barbedwirekitty Ah okay thanks for the explanation. Cheers.
At the end when she's bleeding, what is that from? If she's pregnant like they discuss, I'd imagine it's a miscarriage. If she's not actually pregnant. And that was a psychological symptom. Is it her period or body basically starting full force due to finally overcoming the mental block she had about what had happened with the car and her father?
I liked Chase better with long hair
don't do a doctor's job when you aren't a doctor
Maybe there's some secret abuse that she doesn't remember that could cause the DID.
The girl kid patient was also in Shameless. I love her.
Is there a part 2 for this video 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
This case is briefly discussed further within the "4 Year Old Boy Exhumed to Find Out the Cause of his Death" clip that was posted 8 days afterwards. (They're both from the same episode.)
But there wasn't much left about this one... maybe a minute or two worth of details.
Who is the Genius who thought to put Dr. House on RUclips. This rabbit hole is going to be great!!!!!!!!
you don't get DID from that. It's a little more complicated.
It's not hard to believe that living in a home where your mother denied that you have experienced trauma and was the kind of person that freaked out whenever you were the slightest bit anxious or sad. Perhaps living in a home with a mother that had no shoulder for HER to cry on so she took it out on her daughter. DID comes from long term and persistent trauma, and considering the quality of life you live at, something as simple as going a month without internet could be traumatic. Humans used to have kids almost once a year because most of them would die before they reached adulthood, think about having siblings around you dying and your parents having seemingly no empathy as they go at it again and again and compare it to the life you live now and realize that "trauma" as we try to define it medically has no basis for how our bodies experience it.
Anyone who’s had a head MRI knows it’s not like that. There’s a big contraption like a plastic cage clamp kinda thing that holds the head in place. It’s stuffed with padding pieces… the head is snug in there.
Shes Played a season on shamless as ESTER