PC Fan Engineering, Noise, & GPU Coil Whine | Engineering Discussion ft. NVIDIA

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus  7 месяцев назад +283

    Our next installment in our engineering interview series we've been doing this year! These have been crazy educational - can't wait to do more! I have no idea how this video will perform since it's tough to title with all the topics, but it's such a great technical discussion that we're hoping people see it. If this interests you, you'd definitely like our engineering interview with Noctua previously! ruclips.net/video/82LZkglNiQ0/видео.html
    We self-fund all our travel for these events to retain full control over the reporting process! To help support our next engineering interviews, grab a GN Modmat, Soldering Mat, or shirt here! store.gamersnexus.net/
    Or watch our video cutting the RTX 4090 cooler in half previously, also ft. Malcolm! ruclips.net/video/g4lHgSMBf80/видео.html

    • @ericb7937
      @ericb7937 7 месяцев назад +2

      Does temperature effect acoustic properties/performance of the fan ? This is so interesting. Thank you so much!

    • @henrythegreatamerican8136
      @henrythegreatamerican8136 7 месяцев назад

      Do we really need engineering knowledge to understand a fan sucks in the warm air from the computer and blows it outward?

    • @MaesterAnon
      @MaesterAnon 7 месяцев назад +2

      You need to get an EU store / HQ / Warehouse , so people are paying 100$ for a 50$ product as an example, import fees from American stores are huge.
      And before anyone comments, BUT murica, yes you're a small country compared to all of Europe where we match Murica by 2½ times the population and have way more spending capital, so any american company that wants to super thrive needs to have a EU warehouse.

    • @ShadySKWASHA
      @ShadySKWASHA 7 месяцев назад

      These are awesome! Makes me glad to help out on Patreon and buying shirts! I've learned a lot and I wish as a recent mechanical engineering grad whos into thermal related stuff, that I could get a job as cool as Malcolm

    • @blackrifle6736
      @blackrifle6736 7 месяцев назад

      @@MaesterAnon *Agreed. I hope Steve sees this and seriously considers your suggestion.*

  • @jenrosejenrose7417
    @jenrosejenrose7417 7 месяцев назад +332

    I really like the "find nerd, get them to infodump" format. Especially helpful that you've found people who can really articulate what's going on at a level us mere plebs can understand.

    • @Nostalgia_Realm
      @Nostalgia_Realm 7 месяцев назад +11

      They should really call this series: Nerd Infodumps 🤓

    • @PanderingSlats
      @PanderingSlats 7 месяцев назад +8

      I think you made a great observation- like they said in the preamble, he did not dumb it down, but with technical discussions there are ways to explain complex topics more eloquently/easy to digest than others, and GN has a really good eye for experts who know how to tow that line.

    • @grievesy83
      @grievesy83 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@PanderingSlats It's considered a demonstration of how well someone understands the topic - the better you understand a thing, the easier it is to explain to someone with no understanding. Malcolm does this very, very well.

    • @RepChris
      @RepChris 7 месяцев назад

      @@grievesy83 the only exception is monads, as soon as you understand them you loose all ability to explain them to anybody else, to paraphrase douglas crockford.
      -
      There are two types of ways people usually try to explain it, something along the lines of saying its like a burrito (which is entirely useless beyond saying it "wraps" something), or the classic "a monad is a monoid in the category of endofunctors" (which is only useful if you know what each of those words means, at which point you already know what a monad is. imho the classic "a tensor is something that transforms like a tensor" is more helpful than that for a person unfamiliar with the topic)

  • @cipherbenchmarks
    @cipherbenchmarks 7 месяцев назад +521

    He seems really passionate about his work which is always nice to see.

    • @trickm0nkey
      @trickm0nkey 7 месяцев назад +20

      His passion really helps me learn. Sounds silly but somehow he makes me excited about fan pressure comparisons

    • @metallurgico
      @metallurgico 7 месяцев назад +1

      everyone is passionate about getting paid

    • @stauntssantana
      @stauntssantana 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@metallurgicoThere's an obvious difference between someone genuinely passionate and someone who does it only for money. Please contain your autism.

    • @ChrispyNut
      @ChrispyNut 7 месяцев назад +4

      This isn't his work though. He said it at the end, I really enjoy talking about this stuff.
      I would expect his actual work to be really quite tedious and boring. I'm sure he doesn't mind that too much, because it's within a field he is interested in and passionate about engineering, whilst also having times that are great.
      Am I being pedantic, sure, but I think the distinction is important.
      He has the makings of a great university professor though, passionate when speaking about stuff, probably enjoys teaching and has potential to be a great communicator.

    • @ZinoAmare
      @ZinoAmare 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@metallurgico There are a lot of people hating their work though, he is full of energy just to talk about this.

  • @sidlives2672
    @sidlives2672 7 месяцев назад +413

    These deep technical discussions are the best type of content.

  • @SalemTechsperts
    @SalemTechsperts 7 месяцев назад +118

    Man, Gamers Nexus is quite literally The Greatest Tech Channel That's Ever Lived. I can't imagine the effort involved in these deep-dives, and I truly appreciate what Steve and crew do for this community. Seriously admirable.

    • @TigonIII
      @TigonIII 7 месяцев назад +6

      I would have liked to know more about how swamp gooch affects fan performance and noise. 😉😂

    • @klauserwin9860
      @klauserwin9860 7 месяцев назад

      Those are some truly honorable words from the Greatest Technician That's Ever Lived!

  • @mc88dx
    @mc88dx 7 месяцев назад +805

    We appreciate the deep dives in engineering education. Even Greg.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  7 месяцев назад +113

      Ah, yes. Classic Greg comment on the CPUs. Immortalized.

    • @50shadesofmycow
      @50shadesofmycow 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@GamersNexuswait what, could someone please clue me in? 😂

    • @kuronosan
      @kuronosan 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@50shadesofmycow Greg likes to make bets

    • @FirestormX9
      @FirestormX9 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@50shadesofmycowGreg is the most powerful CPU ever.

    • @mc88dx
      @mc88dx 7 месяцев назад

      @@50shadesofmycow Watch this GN video and Greg is mentioned in the 1st minute. ""NOT ENOUGH SAMPLES" - Benchmark of CPU Sample Size ft. 68 CPUs, HUB, & Der8auer"

  • @somewhatofaprofessional7940
    @somewhatofaprofessional7940 7 месяцев назад +294

    You know you're talking to the right guy, when they are ear-to-ear grinning the entire time with excitement.
    Shout out to Malcolm, dude. I understand the individual references he's making when explaining things, but I know that what he's saying has 3-8 deeper layers internally. And that just makes me enjoy this entire thing even more.
    Malcolm is "That" dude.

    • @mastermind6000
      @mastermind6000 7 месяцев назад +21

      when you hyper-nerd about something and you get a chance to tell someone else ALL the shit you know it's a rare opportunity!

  • @v3xx3r
    @v3xx3r 7 месяцев назад +363

    i appreciate the "not dumbing it down" more that you know. thanks.

    • @gopnikolai7483
      @gopnikolai7483 7 месяцев назад +48

      @@bufordmustang302 Everyone bow down before the Big Shot himself.
      Guy typed a single typo and you scramble to get on your high horse lmao

    • @v3xx3r
      @v3xx3r 7 месяцев назад

      @@bufordmustang302 you got me I'm never gonna recover from this.

    • @MegaUltraMario
      @MegaUltraMario 7 месяцев назад +17

      @@bufordmustang302 Your Reddit gold, good sir

    • @JourneysADRIFT
      @JourneysADRIFT 7 месяцев назад

      ​​@@bufordmustang302😂🤓🤡

    • @Dude30977
      @Dude30977 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@gopnikolai7483they’re just poking fun at them lol. Unless you’re also poking fun. Then apologies

  • @jeffreypaul9428
    @jeffreypaul9428 7 месяцев назад +275

    Steve once again educating us through the power of science and friendship.

    • @stefanschuchardt5734
      @stefanschuchardt5734 7 месяцев назад +6

      ...and love ❤ and beauty 🧚‍♀️and kittens 🐈and bunny's 🐇

    • @alexk.7250
      @alexk.7250 7 месяцев назад +8

      What about the doggie? I mean the acoustic highly specialized technician

    • @HanSolo__
      @HanSolo__ 7 месяцев назад +1

      This entire team works on making cards cheaper to manufacture with as little loss in standards as possible. Its not about making things better.

    • @Humanaut.
      @Humanaut. 7 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@HanSolo__making things cheaper without loss of quality IS making things better.
      Effectively that means you can get better cards at your price point.

  • @user-dx5tu6yz7t
    @user-dx5tu6yz7t 7 месяцев назад +81

    more videos/series like this PLEASE

  • @JinsooJinsoo
    @JinsooJinsoo 7 месяцев назад +377

    Damn the thermal engineer is so good on camera

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  7 месяцев назад +269

      It's been great that these companies are finally trusting their engineers to do camera-facing interviews!

    • @brucepreston3927
      @brucepreston3927 7 месяцев назад

      I have been very suprised by how much the engineers from several of the big companies have been able to go on camera lately! It really is great to see...​@@GamersNexus

    • @AidanNaut0
      @AidanNaut0 7 месяцев назад +17

      that little bit of soft-skills and media training can go a long way

    • @TheChzoronzon
      @TheChzoronzon 7 месяцев назад +1

      Nice chap, but I think he assumes to much knowledge on the viewer, Steve had to slow down him a bunch of times... the nerd curse

    • @brucepreston3927
      @brucepreston3927 7 месяцев назад +7

      @@TheChzoronzon I think he did a pretty good job considering the amount of time he had, but I may feel that way because I already had some cursory knowledge on the topic...

  • @CindersTV
    @CindersTV 7 месяцев назад +14

    So interesting. If you roll down only one window in a car, you can hear the modulation caused from the backflow of pressure, which can be painful when driving at high speeds. If you roll down another window, it creates a pass through, which reduces the backflow of pressure and the modulation.

    • @Wootguy238
      @Wootguy238 7 месяцев назад

      I do be hurting my ear holes

  • @watercannonscollaboration2281
    @watercannonscollaboration2281 7 месяцев назад +67

    Malcolm’s back, not trying to discount the other peeps, but as a SDE I it’s great to see a more rank-and-file engineer instead of the principals

  • @LeoDavidson
    @LeoDavidson 7 месяцев назад +27

    Thank you for raising the tone, quality and audience respect on RUclips when so many channels head in the opposite direction.

  • @Vizyouall
    @Vizyouall 7 месяцев назад +64

    He sounds very knowledgeable with zero arrogance. He knows how to speak.

  • @AusSkiller
    @AusSkiller 7 месяцев назад +54

    I love that the industry is becoming more open to the media like this. It certainly makes me more inclined to buy products from companies that allow content like this to be made.

    • @Frigobar_Ranamelonico
      @Frigobar_Ranamelonico 7 месяцев назад +15

      Agreed, that's the marketing I want.
      Also, like in most of the products we buy, it helps to realise how much work and complexity are behind them

  • @fitztech
    @fitztech 7 месяцев назад +17

    This guy is clearly extremely knowledgeable in his field and appears to be quite young. Hopefully nvidia realizes how valuable someone like this is to have on their team. Good job Malcolm.

  • @ZykopathOfficial
    @ZykopathOfficial 7 месяцев назад +77

    My younger self wouldn't have imagined my future self being so interested in a 38-minute video about fan noise, I guess I'm officially a nerd now!

  • @cppctek
    @cppctek 7 месяцев назад +33

    As an audiophile and someone who obsesses over finding the perfect thermal solutions for every device I’ve put my hands on, this was truly one of if not the most fascinating and entertaining video I’ve seen in a long time. That guys an INCREDIBLE speaker and teacher. I was hooked in the entire time. All of it was so informative and easy to understand. This guy broke down everything perfectly! Thanks for covering this and sharing it. You guys are absolute legends ❤

    • @torbesen
      @torbesen 22 дня назад

      which setup are you using? im audiophile aswell ... dont know which card i should choose

  • @arthurcuesta6041
    @arthurcuesta6041 7 месяцев назад +72

    Good that Gamers Nexus is becoming so prominent. Most techtubers are as deep as a puddle, so seeing you guys succeed makes me happy.
    Btw: the special technician is adorable. Does it hate coil whine too?

    • @hossosplitternacken7819
      @hossosplitternacken7819 7 месяцев назад +11

      Most people don't know, coil whine is actually the screaming of poor souls straight out of the pits of hell, which Nvidia swallowed with its 4000 and 3000 series of overpriced trashscam graphics cards

    • @alphacentaurivenus8037
      @alphacentaurivenus8037 7 месяцев назад

      @@hossosplitternacken7819 3070 and 4090 both used them, they don't have coil whine

  • @davidg5898
    @davidg5898 7 месяцев назад +16

    Malcolm is awesome. He's got a great combination of knowledge and enthusiasm. The perfect combination for explaining/teaching.

  • @MattTrevett
    @MattTrevett 7 месяцев назад +6

    Do we remember this engineer? We LOVE this guy. Malcolm is absolutely intelligent and a joy to hear speak.

  • @techwandoUS
    @techwandoUS 7 месяцев назад +91

    Malcolm is back... with lazers & puppies 😊 im in...

  • @Nearest_Neighbor
    @Nearest_Neighbor 7 месяцев назад +32

    I love when the sound engineer says "you can SEE, it's a lot less echo in here."

    • @fabrb26
      @fabrb26 7 месяцев назад +13

      Here we say, open your eyes and listen how good it smell

    • @SnakebitSTI
      @SnakebitSTI 7 месяцев назад +10

      "See" can mean "observe", "infer", and several other things not specific to sight. Language is weird like that.

    • @martinkrauser4029
      @martinkrauser4029 7 месяцев назад +2

      hah. Good one. I hear what you are saying.

    • @wertyuiopasd6281
      @wertyuiopasd6281 6 месяцев назад

      Senses function with each other, no brainer language would "show" this as well.

  • @mapperize
    @mapperize 7 месяцев назад +3

    got recommended this and i love learning from videos such as these :) the actual psycho-acoustics for human perception of sound is so interesting to hear in situations such as these where there needs to be optimizations for everything

  • @PXAbstraction
    @PXAbstraction 7 месяцев назад +4

    Few things I enjoy more than someone who is clearly passionate about what they do excitedly sharing their knowledge.

  • @tarfeef_4268
    @tarfeef_4268 7 месяцев назад +1

    Feels so weird seeing your friends/former coworkers on a RUclips channel you watch.
    Glad to see you having fun Malcolm!

  • @kiplinght
    @kiplinght 7 месяцев назад +12

    Awesome stuff, you don't see deep dives like this on many other tech channels. Malcolm is a great presenter too

  • @Mom19
    @Mom19 7 месяцев назад +5

    I love listening to these guys talk
    We need more tech talk with engineers
    Thanks Steve (and everyone involved)

  • @Daemione
    @Daemione 7 месяцев назад +4

    So refreshing to see content like this - Malcolm is clearly very happy to talk with someone as interested as he is in his craft.

  • @BigMan7o0
    @BigMan7o0 7 месяцев назад +108

    I may not like Nvidia as a company, but the actual engineers behind it like Malcom and the rest of the team who actually DO the work the CEOs take credit for are awesome, I always love to hear from them instead of PR and shit

    • @Robbie-mw5uu
      @Robbie-mw5uu 7 месяцев назад +2

      Every company has people like him.

    • @elgonzo7239
      @elgonzo7239 7 месяцев назад +6

      Ah yeah, i fondly remember all them CEOs getting on stage, holding up the company's product(s) and proudly claim "I did this! I am the genius who did this!" Man, do i love RUclips's comment section, it's never lacking in infantile BS potshots, lmao...

    • @BigMan7o0
      @BigMan7o0 7 месяцев назад

      @@elgonzo7239 Imagine having a boot so far down your throat you take issue with someone stating a fact about CEOs lmfao

    • @crazylego98
      @crazylego98 7 месяцев назад +1

      Wait you don't like rich people with fat egos??

    • @BigMan7o0
      @BigMan7o0 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@elgonzo7239 A rich mega corp CEO isn't going to come swoop you off your feet and take you away to a life of luxury, why defend the indefensible

  • @LedNe0nDevil
    @LedNe0nDevil 7 месяцев назад +6

    AMAZING KNOWLEDGE ACHIEVEMENT ACQUIRED.
    Thanks Malcolm and GN.

  • @sumikomei
    @sumikomei 7 месяцев назад +3

    I love this sort of engineering technical deep dive, and Malcolm's explanations of it all are wonderful. If I could like this video a thousand times, I would.
    Also really love the parallels with aircraft wings and stall characteristics, that's definitely a part of this that I'm personally very familiar with.

  • @LelandPD
    @LelandPD 7 месяцев назад +1

    I just know that this interview is a major highlight for Malcolm. Look at how happy he is to talk about this stuff that he is entrenched in, and clearly passionate about. I think it was as good for him as it was for us 😂

  • @AgentBirdnest
    @AgentBirdnest 7 месяцев назад +9

    Malcolm! Great to see you on GN again! The information you provide, combined with your passion for your work, is a real joy to watch. 💚 (Also - I love your smile!)
    This was really interesting to me - especially the stuff about fan blades. It's awesome to learn how my video card is cooled, and why it is so quiet. But to be honest, I'm gonna have to watch that Stall Region segment again, because it kinda went over my head. Haha...
    And to GN: I love this type of content! More more more, please! :-D You manage to get really awesome guests. Malcom, TAP, Bill, and Amit are starting too feel like members of the GN family at this point.

  • @Laundry_Hamper
    @Laundry_Hamper 7 месяцев назад +6

    (Hannibal from A-Team voice) I love it when a plan converges in a confluence

  • @lHawkel
    @lHawkel 3 месяца назад

    Man, 70% of the information went right over my head, but it's such a joy to listen to someone who's so passionate about their work.

  • @burretploof
    @burretploof 7 месяцев назад +2

    These videos are really cool. Learning about how these products are built is awesome. And I love that the actual engineers from these companies come out to talk about their work. Really appreciate that.

  • @tuskybarn
    @tuskybarn 7 месяцев назад +1

    As someone who just put together a new computer and is trying to make it as acoustically pleasant as possible, this is a really cool and well timed video. Thanks Steve!!

  • @frantiseksram9741
    @frantiseksram9741 7 месяцев назад +2

    This has got to be the best kind of content for the PC and Engineer nerds. More please

  • @RealTrueBeast
    @RealTrueBeast 7 месяцев назад +1

    Genuinely love seeing someone know a lot about their field of work, I can really appreciate a person like that

  • @mohammedisaa9952
    @mohammedisaa9952 Месяц назад +1

    Dear Steve....
    Please have MORE of Malcom, we like his presentation and enthusiasm 🙂🙏
    Thanks so much for this......

  • @omgitsbenhayes
    @omgitsbenhayes 7 месяцев назад +1

    These engineering discussions are masterclasses of content. Educational, entertaining, and must watches for me.

  • @Condor_
    @Condor_ 7 месяцев назад +1

    This is what gets me excited about technology. Videos like this are a special commodity. Thanks to Steve and the team for content like this and especially to Malcolm for not holding back! His knowledge and enthusiasm for his work is always a delight.

  • @spinnie0
    @spinnie0 7 месяцев назад +1

    I'm really impressed by the range of topics this guy can talk about in detail off the top of his head! So many areas of engineering involved in this discussion.

    • @StuPhee
      @StuPhee 7 месяцев назад

      Thermodynamics is basically how you hear but with fuck loads of mathematics.

  • @u9Nails
    @u9Nails 7 месяцев назад +31

    "Does it hurt you when someone manually adjusts their fan RPM?" @26:53
    HAHAHA!! I loved that question Steve! It made me laugh too!
    Given all the years of education, engineered design, lab tests, iterations on product, and the goal to provide an optimal experience. Then, the end user just wipes their butt with that and goes full throttle because I'm uber uber leet and I need the fan noise picked up on my mic to tell everyone that I got mad skillz!

    • @RunedGolem1
      @RunedGolem1 7 месяцев назад +3

      As far as his response goes, he mentioned the stock curve being the best for the user listening experience. But, if sound isn't a factor for you (let's say if you have your computer in a different room than where you game) then you can just crank the fans up to max. Yes, you'd use slightly more power and probably decrease your fans' life span but you'd get better cooling.

    • @Wootguy238
      @Wootguy238 7 месяцев назад

      What are you on about?

  • @brucepreston3927
    @brucepreston3927 7 месяцев назад +3

    I really like Malcolm, he seems very happy and competent at his job...This was a very intersting video! I have been loving these types of videos on the channel and I can't wait to see what's next!

  • @MTBScotland
    @MTBScotland 7 месяцев назад +2

    really enjoyed the explanation of the fan blades and malcolm's excitement. Really cool to see the physics employed in fan design.

  • @BudgetGamer92
    @BudgetGamer92 7 месяцев назад +1

    Damn Malcolm is a smart cookie! It's refreshing to see someone so young being passionate about something as complex as this. Good for him on achieving such a good career path and working for such a prominent company, I'm sure it wasn't easy, but well worth it in the long run! We welcome Malcolm back anytime!

  • @bits2646
    @bits2646 7 месяцев назад +1

    Dude, your pick of engineers from all 3 "teams/camps" was stunning, loved that guy and his enthusiasm and subsequently deep knowledge, as well as AMD guys, I pretty much felt at home with those videos, and even I'm more of a hardware guy, especially OC/cooling, I also really loved the "Intel dude" and his contribution about arc arch and hw/driver/pipelining topics, love that actual usefull knowledge and not just stats rambling so that punchy title can be used and video heavily monetized...

  • @jtland4842
    @jtland4842 7 месяцев назад +6

    This is so incredibly interesting and informative! The last video you did actually changed what type of engineering I am looking to go into. I could watch Malcolm talk for hours about this stuff. These kinds of videos makes me glad to have bought the GN coasters when they came out.

  • @alexanderpopov3587
    @alexanderpopov3587 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this interview. It is awesome to hear two excited engineers talking about complex stuff and somehow make it understandable and very interesting!

  • @Taorakis
    @Taorakis 6 месяцев назад +1

    I love how much fun he has explaining all this, this is a guy who enjoys what he's doing!

  • @tomppeli.
    @tomppeli. 7 месяцев назад +1

    While talking about aerofoils, the width from the leading edge to the trailing edge of a wing is called chord.
    Talking about things with their given terms usually eliminates confusion that some might experience.

  • @crabapple1974
    @crabapple1974 7 месяцев назад +2

    Really enjoyed this discussion. Made me understand the intricacies of fans a lot more. I like these videos that are on a level that don’t lose too much information by beeing simplified.

    • @Wootguy238
      @Wootguy238 7 месяцев назад

      Losing*

    • @crabapple1974
      @crabapple1974 7 месяцев назад

      @@Wootguy238 You are correct! :D Changing the eyesore.

  • @WayStedYou
    @WayStedYou 7 месяцев назад +8

    This seems like a good place to use "venjent - laser grave" as a backing track

  • @Warma99
    @Warma99 7 месяцев назад

    Excellent video. Really loved hearing everything in so much detail without being dumbed down. It's a pleasure to watch when your guest is as knowledgeable as Malcolm.
    I hope to see more of this type of content regularly.
    Maybe with a RAM manufacturer like Corsair, Gskill etc and what they do with the memory chips after and before assembly.

  • @Cortexjr
    @Cortexjr 7 месяцев назад +1

    I love these kinds of unconventional tests that I can't do in the workshop. really cool❤

  • @WorkThrowaway
    @WorkThrowaway 7 месяцев назад

    I appreciate how nice the audio is in this video, at least in the chamber. It's like podcast status.

  • @aaronnakano7754
    @aaronnakano7754 7 месяцев назад

    I work in an ENT office (and also have a bachelor's degree in psychology from a different time in my life) and deal with some of these topics on a routine basis. Can confirm much of what was said by the engineer, and i love the people (including malcom) and the content of this video! Great work as always GN!

  • @_ryju_
    @_ryju_ 7 месяцев назад +1

    I liked Steve's question about how the two different types of flow would look like!

  • @MidnightBerry03
    @MidnightBerry03 7 месяцев назад

    i love it when someone talks about their profession with such passion. you dont see that anymore

  • @Petch85
    @Petch85 7 месяцев назад +3

    As a mechanical engineer I love these videos. More whiteboard please, it just feels like home. 🥰

  • @ElectricEvan
    @ElectricEvan 7 месяцев назад +14

    Everything else about the ear was very insightful and approximately correct. However around 32:22 the inner ear doesn't act as an amplifier. There is only one active device in the ear and it's a muscle in the middle ear to act as an automatic gain control/mute for when the system is exposed to excessive sound pressure levels. It has the ability to add attenuation. - Signed Evan Foss engineer with +15 years in hearing research & electronics design.

    • @martinkrauser4029
      @martinkrauser4029 7 месяцев назад +1

      ok hot shot but tell us. have you ever stretched out a cochlea

    • @ElectricEvan
      @ElectricEvan 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@martinkrauser4029 no because you can't. The walls are not something you can separate like that. However I have helped people section them in a machine called a microtome. I was also the designer of an electronics package that let scientists measure sound pressure levels in the cochlea using fiber optics. The design for this is visible on GitHub if you doubt me.

    • @ElectricEvan
      @ElectricEvan 7 месяцев назад +1

      The primary function of the middle ear is to match the impedance from air to water. In fish there is no middle ear, their hair cells are exposed in a structure called the latteral line on the sides of the animals body.

    • @garethjones787
      @garethjones787 5 месяцев назад

      The inner ear certainly does act as an amplifier, and an exceptionally good one at that. The active energy feedback from the outer hair cells in the cochlea is what makes mammalian hearing so sensitive (down to displacements of 0.3 nm) and frequency selective (0.3% of an octave) across a huge dynamic range (120 dB).
      We still don't fully understand the mechanics of how a salty blob of various gelatinous membranes is as effective as it is, but the "cochlear amplifier" is critical. For anyone interested in learning more search for "The remarkable cochlear amplifier" in Google scholar for a good starting point.

  • @gasracing5000
    @gasracing5000 7 месяцев назад +13

    0:30
    I asked for a freaking shark with a lazer strapped to its head... and this is what you brought me?
    Is the animal vicious at least? Is his owner evil?

  • @Reckless150681
    @Reckless150681 7 месяцев назад

    Love this one. I'm an aerospace engineer, was great to hear him get really into the nitty-gritty with the fans.

  • @MarcsSpark
    @MarcsSpark 7 месяцев назад +1

    I'd love to get a patreon video of what was left out of the video. I'd imagine you spent hours talking with Malcolm and this is a really interesting topic that i would love to learn more about. Once again, an amazing engineering discussion video. Great job GN team!

  • @SHINYREDBULLETS
    @SHINYREDBULLETS 7 месяцев назад +1

    You can tell that Malcolm knows his shit and loves his job. Really love seeing passionate people explain stuff that's way, way over my head ;D

  • @TheAmazingCowpig
    @TheAmazingCowpig 7 месяцев назад +1

    Oh yeah, tech deep dives with actual engineering. So glad GN has found an unfilled niche of content to blow wide open.
    First 1/3 of the video was basically fluid dynamics and I am totally here for it!

  • @Dan-Simms
    @Dan-Simms 7 месяцев назад

    Love Malcom's enthusiasm, you can tell he loves his job and is good at it.

  • @homermorisson9135
    @homermorisson9135 7 месяцев назад

    This is what truly sets GN apart from any other Tech Channel... this degree of access to highly skilled active members of the industry, getting first hand expert knowledge and sharing it with all of us, just damn amazing!
    Now if only GN would make the switch to Nebula so we'd also get fully uncensored vids without any need to worry about monetization.... that'd make the experience perfect.

  • @soapstone420
    @soapstone420 7 месяцев назад

    this was the quickest 40mins I've experienced in a while 😁 thanks for the deep-dive, Steve!

  • @E_Sunbro
    @E_Sunbro 7 месяцев назад +1

    Malcolm is wicked smart for such a young man. Amazing.

  • @Chris_Grossman
    @Chris_Grossman 7 месяцев назад +1

    Videos like this are why I subscribe to this channel.

  • @bazyt1
    @bazyt1 7 месяцев назад +2

    Malcolm is amazing. That is all -thanks for the upload!

  • @kornydad14
    @kornydad14 7 месяцев назад

    Fascinating talk. As an Aerospace engineer how also focuses on fan and cooling product design it was a very interesting conversation and Malcom explained everything very well.

  • @napstericious
    @napstericious 7 месяцев назад

    Malcolm's knowledge and passion is inspiring to say the least.

  • @JJFX-
    @JJFX- 7 месяцев назад

    Awesome interview! I'd love to get Jakob and Malcolm together at some point to talk shop. Thanks for all the b-roll Vitalii, these opportunities don't come around often so it's great to see as much as possible.
    I am slightly disappointed we didn't actually get to see any "coil whine" testing.

  • @Simte
    @Simte 7 месяцев назад +2

    Absolute gold mine for engineering education. Kuddos team.

  • @joeyverliesharen
    @joeyverliesharen 7 месяцев назад +1

    This lesson is going to greatly help participants of the Fan Showdown.

  • @paxvesania2008
    @paxvesania2008 7 месяцев назад

    I love seeing and hearing the tech guy explaining their crafts. This dude and the AMD overclock guy are truly at the peak of their game.

  • @ZeRO65432
    @ZeRO65432 7 месяцев назад +1

    I'm so nerding out at this video, thanks GN & Nvidia for dropping it! Big like.

  • @JaykeBlayde
    @JaykeBlayde 7 месяцев назад

    Coil whine is exactly what I've been wishing ya'll would include when doing reviews on GPUs, PSUs, and mobos

  • @moliii8809
    @moliii8809 7 месяцев назад

    Fascinating educational discussion - thanks for keeping science and intelligence relevant and accessible. So inspiring to see Malcolm/Steve's passion for their work.

  • @jfniv
    @jfniv 7 месяцев назад

    Engineers getting to talk about the engineering which they are passionate about is a great reminder to us that there are a LOT more folks involved in the creation of a product than just the "business facade" we're so often presented with

  • @CannedMan
    @CannedMan 7 месяцев назад

    30:30 It might interest you to know that that modulation you mentioned, is what (we) organists use to tune an organ to the reference principal pipe (which are tuned more rarely, exclusively by pros; the organist takes care of tuning the other pipes around 4-8 times a year): By drawing two stops, a principal and for example a flute or trumpet, we force the resonance and then tune our way out of modulation until they sound as one.

  • @Tekno560
    @Tekno560 7 месяцев назад

    I assume these videos get relatively few views compared to reviews and the like, so just wanted to say as a current "engineer" in school I really appreciate these types of videos.
    Hell, even if I wasn't going into engineering I'd still love these deep dives.

  • @jfruelas1
    @jfruelas1 7 месяцев назад

    Super cool video. This needs way more views. Keep up the great journalism.

  • @DayXP
    @DayXP 7 месяцев назад

    morning coffee and getting the optimal operation point of a fan explained, with the maximum coefficient of lift after stall, is my personal week highlight. thanks for that

  • @kartikkaushik9811
    @kartikkaushik9811 7 месяцев назад

    As an engineering student in university, I absolutely love these, thank you GN.

  • @harrkev
    @harrkev 7 месяцев назад

    One thing that I have always wondered. The automobile industry figured this out decades ago. Tires have grooves in them, and they could easily hum at a certain frequency. However, somebody figured out that you can alter the spacing of the grooves so that there is not one dominant frequency. The same thing for fans. Check out a really old car with a fan blade attached directly to the engine (no electric motor). The blades are not symmetrical. It seems that if you arrange the fan blades so that they didn't have perfect radial symmetry, you could reduce the frequency spike.

  • @cs_mns
    @cs_mns 7 месяцев назад

    Amazing how much consideration and science goes into this process

  • @Ijnekono
    @Ijnekono 7 месяцев назад

    Malcolm is a gem~! Love to see someone so passionate doing what they love~!

  • @444chroma
    @444chroma 7 месяцев назад +1

    Very cool you got to pick his brain about the testing room. good job Malcolm

  • @garethjones787
    @garethjones787 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you for sharing such an interesting and detailed video. Looking forward to more in the future!
    There’s one small wording mistake, which I mention only because it opens an opportunity to expand on the importance of psychophysics. At around 32:30 Malcolm mentions that the cochlea “perceives” different frequencies. The cochlear is a sensory organ and technically senses sound, whereas the brain perceives sound. The key thing is that what the brain consciously perceives is related to, but not the same thing as, the physical properties of the world. Specifically for hearing, frequency is a physical property (and sensed by the inner hair cells of the cochlea), whereas pitch does not physically exist - it is created in your brain! Steve is spot on when he says “it’s not just the levels, it’s the perception of the levels”. A similar thing happens with all senses and Psychophysics is essential for understanding why subjective experiences, both between contexts and people, can vary so wildly.

  • @ShanesGettingHandy
    @ShanesGettingHandy 7 месяцев назад +2

    From the depths of my core, Thank You. I love this type of stuff.

  • @mhnoni
    @mhnoni 5 месяцев назад

    Can't believe this is free to watch. what a time to be alive.

  • @ctrlaltdel02
    @ctrlaltdel02 7 месяцев назад

    One of a shortest 40 minutes in my life. Amazing interview!

  • @user-yv2cz8oj1k
    @user-yv2cz8oj1k 7 месяцев назад

    Well yes, a friend at school did a project for his physics exam that used the reflected energy of a non visible laser on a window to pick up sound, it was very impressive and that was 1988.

  • @MickeyMishra
    @MickeyMishra 7 месяцев назад

    Man, this was amazing! Love how both of you took such a deep dive in acoustics. I thought I was going to design speakers one day. If I had known back then what a N.V.H. Engineer was? I would have jumped on that from the get go out of Highschool.
    The relation to how the ear hears is also equally as amazing, as frequency and its perceived loudness does not equate apple to apples from one frequency to another.
    This kind of data is what Speaker / Transducer engineers salivate for when doing Driver testing.
    TLDR; this Nvidia interview hit it out of the park! 👍