We Made the Perfect CPU Cooler | Intel vs. AMD Curvature & Coldplate Engineering
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2024
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This video attempts to make the best CPU cooler coldplate for Intel LGA1700 (such as 14th Gen) and the best CPU cooler for AMD AM4 and AMD AM5. We're focusing our efforts entirely on coldplate shape today to isolate variables -- maybe we can bin heatpipes in the future. This uses a 3D laser scanner to evaluate the surface curvature of an Intel and AMD IHS (Integrated Heat Spreader) when clamped under the ILM (Independent Loading Mechanism) force for the CPU socket. It's an engineering experiment for fun with some science mixed in, but maybe this can help guide CPU cooler design in the future. For this testing, we're using the Scythe FUMA 3 air coolers (successor to the famous FUMA 2). We were originally inspired to do this at Computex last year, where we met with Scythe to discuss the possibilities of a better coldplate. Arctic's Liquid Freezer III this year brought the topic up again, and now it's back. Related viewing material below!
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Creating the Golden Sample CPU Cooler
02:23 - The CPU Heatspreader Problem
07:08 - An Ideal Setup
08:31 - 3D Scanning the Coolers
09:54 - Limitations of Testing
10:40 - The Perfect Cooler
11:56 - Thermals: Intel LGA1700
12:48 - Thermals: AMD AM4
13:51 - Thermals: AMD AM5
14:40 - More Testing Limitations
15:14 - Pressure: AMD AM4
15:45 - Pressure: Intel LGA1700
16:26 - Precision Engineering Square
16:58 - Conclusion
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ok , now try simple good old school lapping on the cooler and cpu heatspreader
I still wonder why those heatpipes aren't connected on the begin and end point. Effectively creating a loop.
Seems to me that this has never been tried before. This could benefit cooling since the liquid flows naturally as a loop without a pump.
@@frozenflame8319 Exactly ! This ! I want to see how far this can go. As flat as possible and see how good those temperatures are going to be.
People are saying that Scythe is really cool for doing this, but I'm just here thinking that if i were them, I'd be stoked if a third party were to rigorously test and validate the products I was designing. I feel like this is a huge opportunity for them as well as GN to improve this industry and technology. Super cool work!
@GamersNexus Hey Steve! Why havent you tested the amd 3950x cpu that was lapped that you bought from the swede penrowe? ruclips.net/video/sQw20rHvpRw/видео.html
I have been waiting forever for you to test it and see if it is possible to cool the cpu without paste (copper against copper) using the vacuum from the 2 surfaces. Anyway, have a good one
I think a big shout out needs to go to Scythe for being on board with this. They could have simply been like we know what we are doing and stuck their head in the sand but they was willing to make the coolers and be open to see if there are better ways so credit to them.
Can't wait to meet up with them this month and see what we can do next!
@@GamersNexus IMO Flat Plate FUMA 3 on Intel LGA1700 is the best way to compare Thermal Pastes heat conductivity - Do you Agree? (it's like doing X100 magnification :-) )
Scythe, to me, has been absolutely amazing as a company. Right up there with noctua with post-warrenty support: sent me not one but two compatibility brackets for my mugen 2 cooler to allow it to be used for motherboards the original bracket didnt support. For free.
Performance for the price combined with aftermarket support like this is absolutely unheard of in my opinion.
Have a couple gentle typhoons that have been putting in work for well over a decade now, should be about 12 years, migrated from build to build and they still work quietly and seem to perform as well as the day I got them.
If scythe has a product that is anywhere near the performance of a competitor at a somewhat comparable price level its a no brainer to me.
Obviously N=1 but hey I feel like they deserve some public loving after this video.
Seriously! @GamersNexus I hope you can encourage Scythe to read reviews, because their willingness to do this makes me more likely to purchase from them in the future! I'd love to see Noctua get involved, too!
@@m.m.x.4244Scythe noctua and arctic cooling are definitely my top 3 for performance and customer service. Still mad at myself for not buying extra gentle typhoons back in the day.
Gamers Nexus is at the top of their game.
Thank you! And lateralus is a great song.
@@GamersNexus Cannot go wrong with 10,000 Days or anything by Tool.
@@iLegionaire3755Tool played a club I cooked at back in '94. I made their fruit and veggie platters. They stood 15 feet from me in the kitchen before taking the stage. Paul was still on bass, and Danny was tall af... towering over everybody, even the bouncers. And Maynard still had hair. When No Quarter started, a wave of energy flowed from my toes to my scalp, and every freaking hair on my body stood on end. Now every time I hear it again, I get that same rush, bringing me right back to that night. Freaking electric! 😎
at the top of the industry game. No other channel is on this level.
With epic hair like that, Steve will ALWAYS be unstoppable.
Scythe are absolute legends for doing this with you. Great job GN, this was so interesting to see!
The contact frame: some of your points seems like they actually prove that as being a better solution. For example it makes the cpu common rather than trying to adapt to many cpus. This helped me make more sense out of that.
Interestingly it also seemed to show that even with a contact frame a perfectly flat cooler still wouldn't be the way to go. Given the number of man hours people put into lapping their CPU's and cold plates I find that a rather surprising result. I wonder whether it changes significance with different pastes/thermal sheets ?
Kudos for the 3D animations, makes everything easier to understand
There's so much spatial movement in this one that we really needed it!
@@GamersNexus also want to thank you for the animations. My brother isn't very much a computer person tho he has slight interest. The animations was able to help him understand the topic way more then data sheets with in depth explanation. He now loves watching your videos with me as he don't feel as lost while we talk about computers.
@@GamersNexus THIS WOULD ONLY MATTER IF NO THERMAL PASTE WAS USED MOST USELESS VIDEO EVER.
@@mattwill63 It's always been my understanding the paste fills in the micro pits all across the surface, not any general curvature.
I’m 100% on board for an official GN/Scythe cooler collab 👀 Scythe really is a great company making great products. Seeing them play ball with GN really says it all.
Oh my, black text on dark background on mobile RUclips. What even is going on here.
@@cybercat1531 Oh my, 100 other people see it just fine. Turn your dark mode extension off.
Would be too much conflict of interest to make a true product! We wouldn't be able to participate. But for science and research, always happy to publicly publish information!
Okay this is really cool. An almost 3° difference just from having a slightly different shaped coldplate is ACRUALLY measurable. I was thinking maybe .1 or .2 of a degree, but whole numbers change? That's incredible.
You could lap the "Golden Sample" to get it flat and retest to confirm it's not just this specific cooler is better. Like you mentioned there is some manufacturing variance with heatpipe performance or with how heatpipes are contacting the fins.
Not a bad idea. We'd have to lap it and then nickel plate it again - not sure how hard that'd be. But good thought! Will ask around.
@@GamersNexus Nickle plating would not be difficult. You just have a nickle solution to electroplate it yourself with a car battery, and some fishing string can be wrapped around the pipes to prop it up, but you might end up accidentally bending the fins. Using the mounting hardware that comes with the cooler for propping it up might work better. Just lower the cooler enough to cover what's exposed and electrify.
i'd imagine scythe made sure those custom coolers are same mounting height? lapping one would bring it out of line.
@@bluephreakr I have done nickel plating with a self cooked solution. If I was GN I'd probably order a solution rather than play around. Also it doesn't come out the same since self made solution lacks brightening. I have added saccharine to mine to try to achieve brightening but I don't thing it has done much.
My first mistake when making the solution was to use a little too much salt. Second was to use vinegar, I found citric acid much less obnoxious.
What I'll say though is that for the area the car battery is guaranteed too much voltage. Just use any lab PSU and trim it until it no longer bubbles, or use a recommended current density formula.
Electrode placement night be a bit of an issue, you want it below the cold plate if you're lowering the cooler down. But it also needs to evacuate gas so I don't know.
Curiously I have done cooler lapping as well, and the one I lapped was a Scythe, but I haven't nickel plated it again.
@@bluephreakr if you're wondering why too much voltage is bad, is that you get a foamy plating that just falls off if you look at it, not adhered at all.
8:51 That UX is making my brain bleed.
hahaha. It is THE most painful software to use in the office! But also classic for highly specialized machinery with a lower amount of users.
As a programmer I can attest that UX is really hard and I'd totally make something that looks like that, lol
@@ivangerginov5648 simple fix in this case really. rotate if middle mouse button is pressed, move if it isn't.
@@dmitrybayer Depends.
If it in any way shape or form interacts in one of a few specific ways with the kernel of the software package it may skew results so needs to be certified and thoroughly tested.
Same issue with SolidEdge not being multithreaded in any meaningful way (of course some parts can only use 1 process) apart from a few specific parts of the program (and SoldiWorks and Catia etc).
My first thought when I saw that UX was "Oh God, Why?" At least use Alt or Ctrl instead of check boxes. Then again, I know nothing about software development, so I have no idea how hard or easy it would be to make a better UX.
Most likely, the manufacturer couldn't justify creating a new position just for UX development, so they did the best they could with what they had.
G'day Steve,
MASSIVE THANKS to Scythe & their Engineers for being apart of this doing the Custom Engineering of the Coolers.
WOW! this content idea was so much Cooler than a Custom Contact Patch, GN team your dedication to not only Reporting + Teaching Us Tech Advancements but actually having ideas to inspire Engineers in the Industry is 🙃👎.
Also Andrew & Mike the 3D Animations + Colour Scan Images were AMAZING, as always so helpful to see the Machinations + fine detail.
Props to who worked on this video, especially whoever did the animation showing the surface degradation of the cpu socketed and the corresponding cold plate that would be used for it.
Holy crap. GN’a dedication to testing PC parts is unmatched!!
Yep. Something Linus Shill Tips cannot do.
@@kickazzdrummer666 LTT was never designed go that in depth for such products, its more of entertaining content while still share enough technical knowledge. i myself i have to say its way easier to watch LTT than GN videos. GN is great to have an in depth look but in reality prob "making mountain out of a molehill". yet still doing mistakes too. (*cough Arctic LF3 pump noise problem - which wasnt a problem (or better: it didnt had one) according to GN but 80% of the ppl that bought it said otherwise) - i like Steve & his in depth engineering videos but sometimes its kinda unnecessary, nobody of the consumer gonna make use of (obv just my opinion)
@@Vss077 Thing is though, that this is not only about consumers. Making consumers aware and shedding light on the technical challenges manufacturers face improves the industry overall. People (and by extension companies) learn from each other and this kind of knowledge and insight wont go unnoticed by cooler manufacturers.
A third party testing in this depth what you are designing and making, is the greatest gift to any manufacturer seeking to improve their technology.
@@marijnvandongen4835 this might be true and I agree to shine some light about the difficulties however the customer usually doesn't care how complex even simple things like CPU coolers are. we know how manufacturers think and they still rather do their own testing, since mostly all of them have their own equipment. and on top of it they won't listen, watch or take advice from a RUclipsr. (it's not all companies but 90% of them). they only take some sort of advice or agree their own mistakes when they are actually wrong months later.
@@Vss077I absolutely agree. The amount of data on a GN video is similar to the amount of entertainment in an LTT video. 2 entirely different approaches and generally 2 different types of content as well. Infotainment on PC parts vs obsessive engineers perspective on PC parts.
All these cooling, but intel still in hot water.😂
Intel is just out there trying to make space heaters and no one appreciates it
@@GamersNexus
AMD: We need to focus on making a product that will be able to compete against intel
Intel: Longer bar = better
@@GamersNexus I have appreciated it ever since my downstairs neighbor upgraded and chose intel.
@@GamersNexus sponsored overclockers do (probably less than a 1000 ppl in the world)
I mean, yeah. But that AM5 plate is SHITE
Gamers Nexus is officially killing it. The only thing better than purchasing 20 pieces of hightech equipment, 50 new people to learn how to use them...... is to simply (AND MOST IMPORTANTLY) show actual focus by introducing 1 or 2 new Technologies at a time, WITH ACTUAL RESULTS rather than future promises of what is to come. Steve and Crew are Winning.... like Tiger Blood Levels of WINNING at this point. Congrats GN. You deserve your success.
I love the fact you mention that you needed to use the scientific method for this.
I just wish people would try using the same method for comparing picture quality for all these upscaling software out there right now along with the different AA techniques.
Every time steve says "super cool" i keep waiting for the joke related to cooling.
It only feels like a few years ago Steve was in his bedroom and now he has an anechoic chamber and a office and making custom coldplates.
Helluva glow up. Hopefully the real content never changes.
In an anechoic chamber...
Nobody can hear you scream.
@@SianaGearz *Nobody can hear an echo of your scream, aside from your own body's echo/resonance.
i love how linus threw an order of magnitude more money at his Lab than GN, and yet... the value for consumers we got from GN to date will prolly 10x wtvr LMG does in couple of years if not more.
The laser scanner is probably more valuable in actual practice than whatever Linus got in total.
Ah, the classic tale of Tech David vs. Goliath! Linus might be throwing cash like he’s trying to fix a paper jam with dollar bills, but GN is out here turning pocket lint into processors. At this rate, GN will be giving us flying cars while LMG will still be figuring out how to make a PC that doesn’t need a power button. 😄
You can really tell who is in it for the science, vs who is having too much fun with out of the world ideas that most of us could only dream of in our most inebriated state.
Still want to see him route those heatpipes under the parking lot and what results that has come winter. Petabytes of storage... /damn/.
One does content, the other journalism.
soi vs tech Jesus. no contest
I fully respect this deep dives, engineering tests, engineering talks, this channel has such cool content and jam packed information very well presented, I love it
This is fantastic. This is actually my favorite GN video in a long time! I love this and hope to see it make a difference for future coolers!
Wow! Thanks. You might like the cross-flow fan video also! Planning more of these in the future!
Yall need to be making scientific journal tier articles, lab coats and all. Puts into perspective how much contact frames could change things up in the future.
Seconded, although it takes fucking forever. Plus, reputable journals tend to have their own specific formatting, peer review, etc.
I think GN could split the difference by putting these sorts of vids up on their website with the results and discussions, but that way they wouldn't have to worry about the bureaucracy of actually submitting to a journal.
It's not quite up to the rigors of a journal, but we will be converting this to an article on the website soon! That at least gets a more searchable written version out there for people!
@@Reckless150681Disregard journals. Forever.
@@GamersNexusYeah seriously, you could easily make this into a proper research paper, maybe partner up with a university and research group interested in this to get the funding and/or team to get the necessary rigor for it. You could easily make another one or two videos about that too. Pretty impressive honestly
@walkinmn GN likely could find corporate sponsors for this kind of rigorous research and papers, corporate/VC sponsorships are quite common in the EE/CE fields.
great work and Kudo's to Schyth for working with you on this project. Lot's of helpful info came from this for even people who dont understand pc's to well.. great work GN
Man that modmat is so high quality. I was extremely impressed how great it looks and feels. Love it!
GN Cooler in the store soon ??
And of course, it would have the best OUT OF THE BOX THERMALS.
Thanks Steve !
GN has stated they will never do co-branding with or sell products of any company that makes products they review, for ethics and impartiality reasons
This cooler would cost several thousand dollars.
@squelchedotter when you have great product and staple demand you make PRODUCT, this is how business work.
Why did I think you were talking about coolers like you'd see at a cookout, and can coozies. I need some sleep or something lmfao
I know you love cats, Steve. Why only black shirts, Steve?
ha! Fair point! Clearly we need some colors that hide cat fur!
My cat is black, so clearly the shirts are custom made for me.
Thanks Steve!
In my experience, textured grey hides cat hair the best, assuming the cat hair is any color except bright orange and jet black @@GamersNexus
Cat fur is a real thing 🐈
@@GamersNexus Just use black cats. Problem solved.
Amazing work as always, this has to be the most interesting video about CPU's outside of quantum computing ive seen in forever.
Love the animations. Love that Scythe was interested in working with your team. Really cool to see experiments like this, keep up the great work!
Using the contact frames in addition for LGA 1700 and AM5 would have been interesting on how the IHS reacts to a different distribution of pressure.
Artic already includes one for Intel 1700 (and upcoming 1851) with alll Liquid Freezer III AiOs so...
@@ShowXTech Although they include it, he did not test it in this video as far as I can recall. Further more, he did a seperate video a while ago about Arctic's own contact frame and it performed differently opposed to the contact frame from Thermal Grizzly and Thermalright
20 seconds in and this is already SO cool
Lasers are amazing!
Don't you mean Super Cool or were you bored of hearing it!!??
Awesome co-op! Really good to see that there are more and more companies who trust you with all kinds of things. I only follow since 3 years and in that time alone GN has grown its team, the field of operation and the professionalism due to equipment. Can't say thank you often enough. Thank you!
Good work Steve very informative was cool you guys were right on with the Intel the Am4 was a bit of a surprise performancewise
I've wanted to see something like this since you started showing the pressure maps, this is awesome
I've been loving the animations in recent videos
Really cool video! I'd love to see more concept tests like this in the future!
This video is crazy, I never see anything like this, go deep down to level average person even don’t think off.
Thank you very much.
This is honestly very cool, wouldn't have expected a 2+°C degree difference just from this. It kind of means that it could be worthwhile for some enthusiasts to lap their coolers to get an ideal curve, not sure how difficult that would be (honestly it does sounds more difficult than lapping a cpu)but it could be worthwhile
Loving the level of tech in these videos nowadays
Great content, keep it coming, you guys are killing it! My only beef is that I think the charts would be more readable and comparable if you did not re-sort the coolers by lowest temp each time. Please keep them in the same spot/order for each chart.
This is so awesome! I don't think weve seen you make something before. That makes my subscription even better!!! Can't wait for what's next!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is another level. Holy cow!
Currently studying engineering, and I feel these videos really give me an advantage when it comes to having industry knowledge. Thank you GN for the effort you put into these videos. I've come a long way from when I first started watching!
Trade shows can be good as well. If you can get in for free through your university or college, maybe ask a professor or their assistant. If you're lucky to catch any actual engineers, they'll be super happy to spill the beans and have someone listen.
Videos like these are one of the main reasons i subscribed to this channel. Keep up the amazing work!
Neat! Great to see that enthusiasm from doing something you found deeply interesting, and it should prove meaningful to builders, too!
ok , now try simple good old school lapping on the cooler and cpu heatspreader
Would be cool for a really flat cooler to come with a contact frame in the box
Quality content right here. Great job guys! And I can't wait to see my two favorite Steves hanging out at Computex
I truly appreciate your scientific process. I saw a video back in the day where you were testing videocard power distribution and ac noise/ripple and you had some very special equipment to measure it. I know how special because I've used them before and they're not cheap.
Keep it up :)
You cant use this as data. Too small scale when there could be differenses between coolers in other areas.
Right. So you're saying we need a kit containing a plain "dummy" socket soldered onto a PCB and a piece of sandpaper. Clamp the CPU in the dummy socket, sand it, transfer over to a real motherboard. Sanding the cooler contact plate is more difficult though...
i wonder how much these values would change after 2-3y when the thermal paste starts drying out
You guys are so awesome! Keep doing this sweet science, and I'll keep supporting the channel. :D
it's really cool to see the team so exited about testing PC parts, thanks. THhugh i wonder if it was really necessay to BUY the scanner. seems like a rare use. maybe a rent would have been bettter but hey it's your company, your call.
I guess it was only a matter of time having to take things into your own hands.
Steve starting to look less like Jesus and more like Hagrid.
Didn't think I would be interested in this video, but it turned out to be quite fascinating. Nice job!
It would be interesting to see a test where both are lapped prior to install, then after install the chip clamp is released (to remove the bend induced by it) just leaving the cooler clamping the CPU in.
The interesting results would be
1) Can get a more even distribution of contact or would the cooler mount cause distortion of one side only
2) Would this make up for the loss of extra pressure over the die on the curved plate.
The reason this could be interesting is that the home modders could do this themselves by lapping on glass, but trying to create a curved plate to match the CPU is a lot more difficult for the DIY guys
So GN selling coolers when?
Id love to see some lapped IHS' as well, I feel like that'd be really interesting.
have to lap in the board though or atleast an old board
@@timcooper1841 that's true due to the bowing of the retention mechanism.
This was a really cool experiment and fascinating results. Thanks! I've often wondered just how malleable coolers are across different platforms.
This was awesome! I've wondered about socket-specific coolers like this. This is a really fascinating exploration and explanation of it.
Andrew is killing it with the animations. They are really great looking!
You should make another poster. I'd buy it. I already have the exploded GN logo and the (retired) X570 metro map. But my walls need more PC-themed decoration. 💚
would call it "steve's cooling balls"
and after it went through marketing it would prolly be named: "st4v4's gaming ballz super XT ultra RGB"
When RUclipsrs make better thermal solutions than the major companies, that’s a big sign things need to change up at these mega corporations.
custom vs cost
No, it's expensive, also custom frames for intel weren't tested, maybe it's just worth to buy these
Megacorp try to max. profit, not perf or quality.
horrible conclusion from this video
7:08
Big corp is aware of all this. It's about the profit margin and continuous scheduled growth to capture growing market shares (yes this part is partially made up since it could be a brand new product with 0 shares in the market). Please also learn what it cost to do such projects and how long it too for such machine to be made. How many years of research and developement was needed to get to where we are today?
The only sign I see here is you need more education on things work in this world. More questions needs to be asked. Strongly advise you to reword statements into questions to help along that journey.
Why are youtubers making better thermal solutions than the major companies? How much pressure is applied? How much pressuer should be applied? Are there better material to use? What are the cost of production? What is the cost of sourcing materials? How much does the Machine to make AIO cost? What is the maintance schedule? What if this broke, how can it be fixed? Can it be fixed?
So with that Gamer Nexus asks all these questions and DEMANDS a true answer and not from a PR staff from a Corporation to tell him some BS. Why? Back to corporations are just for profit and doesn't matter how. Then you also have to remember if the company is traded on the stock market, their only loyalty is to share holders, so back to profits.
Pilar of excellence meticulously thought out and excecuted probably the most comprehensive technical video I have seen.
Man.. Good stuff. You're putting so much effort into all this
I've always seen GN as the go to for accurate information regarding to computer stuff and recently it's gotten even better! I love what GN is doing recently and they've definitely upped their game, it's super interesting and also they've made it very easy to digest. Keep it going I love what you're doing!
This is why GN is the gold standard. Really interesting stuff and glad you presented it still even though it didn't make like a 5 degree difference or something huge. Thank you!
I just recall my first PC build back in 2000's (still am2) I used a sandpaper to smooth the surface of the plate contact. Back then, not sure if today, but the plates were machine finished so they were not that smooth. I think I may have improved one or another degree... this is a really great work proving how contact is important.
This was a super interesting watch. Looking forward to the video about the follow-up with Scythe.
The 3D animations are killer. Thanks, guys. Also explanation is awesome, I didn't even know I wanted to know until I knew it!
I'm sure a lot of this was very tedious but I can't help but imagine this must have been so fun and satisfying to perform and see come to fruition. excellent work!
This was such and interesting video and I really enjoyed it quit a bit. I am glad you keep making informative videos like this from time to time. I even learned a little something from it too.
Being in my last years of mechanical engineering, - heat transfer being part of it. The detail in these series of videos but more specifically this one today made me immediately think '' this is so much thesis/journal grade'' yet presented very nicely and for everyone to understand on youtube :).
Kudos to all of the team, also to Scythe for being in it.
I think having a company like Scythe on board speaks volumes of your work.
How did I miss this one!
This test is pure geek heaven, thanks!
Thanks for doing all these really cool and informative videos Steve and GN!
Dude, this last GN videos have been absolute gold. Props to the whole team, you can really feel the dedication of evidence based journalism.
You guys are crazy, but in a really awesome way! Such an amazing piece of information and very interesting how such a little change can actually do quite a lot to its performance. Really impressive
Further testing with a cpu mounting frame replacing the OEM ILM.
Great work
I never knew about the cpu bend in general installation and how it effects the contact with the cooler. Super cool video and learned something interesting. I hope Sythe does some cool stuff with this info. People count out air coolers because of AIO's and liquid cooling in general but air coolers always seem to come back with a new trick to stay near the top in performance!
Something I have always wondered about, GN you all rock!
You guys have really stepped up to a new level. Amazing stuff. Also, while for manufacturers, keeping most of their production to a single standard makes sense, I'm also convinced there's something to be done on the very high end market, because as you said, 2°C is quite significant for a cooler. I can totally see the guys with custom liquid cooling loops and heavy overclockers paying the premium for a CPU specific plate. Maybe that's a niche for a smaller company though.
great concept for a video and a fun watch. I would love to see more scientific experiments.
Great in-depth Steve and team. Love the deep look.
Now this needs run on the CPUs using socket contact frames vs. the ILM/SAM. Very interesting video.
Steve CV just got upgraded: investigation journalism and university materials reasearcher
this channel keeps growing in quality!!! good job!!
This is really cool. Outstanding work collecting all the data, and even getting to work with a company like Scythe. Great work all around. Much praise to Scythe for accepting to collaborate.
This channel is so amazing. I love the in-depth, science driven content.
Hi Steve, your tests were very informative. I've taken many notes when viewing your videos, so I know how good they are. I've enrolled in your class concerning CPU air cooling. I would like to tell my fellow commenters that I passed CPU Cooling 103 with flying colors. Thanks to your videos, my CPU now runs 1.5 degrees cooler, and my FPS has increased by three. Wow! I'm now enrolled in your AIO Cooling class.
I expected these kinds of results but it's really cool to see someone try it out and validate it.
Someone's been playing with new camera gear in this video… Moving around, zooms, etc. Really love that GN is upping its testing game so much! Since the whole Artesian fiasco y'all have just been going harder and harder to be more than just some talking heads who kinda know a little about computer hardware and games. It's been really cool to watch.
This is peak quality youtube content, thank you for all the work, it's really interesting.
I want to see more testing on this, such seeing how a contact frame changes the results of the golden sample and/or milling down the outside of the coldplate to focus pressure on the chip itself and not get pressure spikes on the edge of the ihs
This was really cool video to watch! Always wondered about this subject.
It seems like an easier way of making a CPU and cooler mate perfectly together would be to perform lapping between the CPU and cooler themselves. Clamp them in and grind them against each other with an abrasive until they have perfect contact.
Something that would've been interesting to see because you specifically mentioned the chiplets on AM4 was testing the AM4 cpus that are monolithic like the ones with the integrated graphics to see how the golden sample and flat sample would've fared there. That being said it was still a very interesting and well done look into this sorta thing!
Thanks Steve!
Very in-depth and appreciated.
Peaceful Skies.
Was watching some of your original videosand its fun to see how far youve come. And how far your hair has come ahah
I loved every minute of this video. Fantastic work Steve and co.
Thanks guys, this a pretty good and entertaining subject. Scythe being the MVP for supplying this samples. As a brand they are giving me more confidence to recommend their products for any future PC build commissions to me.
Excellent! It is great when you go deep in the subject
I love the piece, I hope they create a GN-edition cooler.
Also small complaint, this might just be me but there were a couple of sections where I found the music to be distracting.