Sorry for the low-res upload, I have waited 2.5 hours for it to process and tried re-uploading as well, but it just doesn't move, so I published like this. Maybe RUclips engineers should have taken a few classes over at Brilliant :P brilliant.org/TFC/
They are living up to their name, showing and saying nothing in the event. Still curious to see what they put out, and trying out a new launcher is always cool
@@hakeem9034 That's true, I bought the Oneplus 6 just for software, still have it and think it's better than many others, and now I refuse to update to Android 11 because I hate the direction they've taken. I'm very curious to see what Nothing put out.
If and only if it is a flagship phone. Also, only since LG V60 which did have a headphone jack on a flagship. Furthermore, only if it has a quad-DAC for the headphone jack, as the V60. That would be innovative...
I've always been skeptical of the Nothing brand. They are making these huge promises but with such little info they're giving, whether or not they deliver remains to be seen. Less talking, more showing pls. Don't get me wrong, I would love the Android smartphone market to be innovative again, but at this point Samsung and Xiaomi are so far ahead and so deep in the market that it'll be severely difficult for a new brand to find some traction to survive. I would love to be proven wrong though. If Nothing succeeds, then we're all better for it. If it doesn't, then that's unfortunate but mostly to be expected.
Talk is cheap. Karl Pei is genius at marketing but marketing can only get you so far. Pretending that you will be Apple's opposite end with nothing products and services thus far and shitting on other Android OEMs is ridiculous.
I agree. Nothing is starting with their FIRST PHONE and making incredibly lofty claims about a huge industry. If they live up to the claims then I'll be extremely happy, but if not, which is the more likely option, they'll have embarrassed themselves. Their marketing just infuriated me from the start, with their focus on artificially built hype being so irritating and their claims not matching what they give.
What amazes me is that there isn't even an icon pack, just custom widgets. It looks like the Pixel launcher but with some fancy custom KWGT widgets and the dotted font for the lock and homescreen. If that's the extent of their customization it'll be so sad, because a phone based around their glossy, translucent, industrial style could actually be really cool. I'll be interested to see if the phone itself has a transparent glossy back that exposes the ACTUAL internals, like the buds. That would be standout. But I'm not holding my breath.
Please more rants in the future, this was hilarious while i agreed with all your points. And it wasn't just a random rant but one from someone who has actually worked for a smartphone company
IMO, a brand naming themselves "nothing" sounds transparently like just a huge joke. Like they'll eventually go: "What did you expect from us? We're offering Nothing and will be delivering Nothing"
That's not a good thing about Xiaomi, it's a good thing about the community, they step in because Xiaomi gives little long-term support, specially in terms of Android updates to low-end and mid-range devices.
i think the nothing brand is trying to revive the "tech eunthusiast" smartphone market gap left by oneplus but i think many of those enthusiasts have already moved on to either iphone or samsung galaxy
@@ChristianYoga I don't think so, Xiaomi and Realme are absolutely ruthless when it comes to pricing their, so I don't see Nothing competing with them anytime soon.
Yes. I bought the Oneplus X due to the design and the size. But Jesus Christ, this one went to shit so f fast. They didn’t update it after a while and the battery died faster than any other tech product I have ever used. Then went to Samsung for 4 phones (all also had the exact same problem + stutter) so I switched to the iPhone XS. Never been happier with a phone. Like I am tech savvy, I would wish Apple wouldn’t be so fucking closed with your data, but everything I want from phone: fluidity, updates, fast experience, long battery life etc is done pristinely by Apple. Hands fucking down
I don't think so. While it has come a very long way it's still pretty rough around the edges. The reasons are that their products work almost as well with other devices as well as Samsung ones and that there are multiple options to do one thing. For example, if I want to transfer a video from a Galaxy Phone to a Galaxy Tab I can do it through quick share, nearby share, or Samsung Flow and all of that leads to confusion, so it's not as effortless as Apple's.
It's just so ridiculous that Nothing claims to bring Innovation to the table yet all they were able to show was literally a wallpaper and some widgets 🤦🏻♂️ I'm 100% sure that their first phone will once again just be another rebranded phone - probably from Oppo - with TINY tweaks on the camera bump design and that's it. There won't be any innovations at all.
the Oneplus phones were rebranded Oppo phones because Oneplus was a brand under the BBK group. Which means Oneplus and Oppo were owned by a single parent company from the very beginning of oneplus' existence, nothing cant do the same thing as they're an independent brand now. but still their phone wont be as good as they're hyping it up to be imo.
The investors of nothing is CEO from American companies so I doubt it could be having influence of Chinese companies.. Carl had clear vision to sell phone at marginal price with no advertising etc. I have been following oneplus since oneplus 1 and own 3t and currently using 7t which was last flagship killer. From oneplus 8, oneplus started increasing price and giving old tech and that's when Carl left oneplus.. I don't think there is going to be any innovation with nothing phone but what I think is it would be atleast launched at budget price. If it's going to launch at 1000 usd price then sure it's going to fail.
Coming out of the gate and announcing that Apple is the only competition for them. They saw the possibility during the launch of Nothing ear 1 in that how it was so heavily compared with Airpods and now maybe have decided to capitalise and control the narrative. Total PR move. lets see how it pans out.
Nope, Carl Pei (the CEO) has always been obsessed with Apple. He keeps seeing whatever he makes constantly as the "next Apple". And because of that he never will become "the next Apple". Here is a great example, but why do you think the in-between models of OnePlus (when he used to work there) are called T models (like the 7T and 8T). Because it's one plus letter after the S...... Because Apple uses the letter S for their in-between models. Seriously that's how uncreative his background is. Instead of innovating something completely new, like Apple did with the iPhone or Motorola did with the DynaTAC (first cellphone). He just looks at Apple and thinks "How can we be the Apple for the Android market?" and then miserably fails at that. I have a OnePlus and they can't even get the basic software right, how does he think that he can ever create an Apple competitor if all they do is just jam the fastest hardware into a phone, without ever caring about the software.... Let alone comparing himself to Apple, he shouldn't even mention it AT ALL. Not even Samsung. Because most of his competition at least bothers to put something as basic as a step counter that doesn't in their smartphone.
@@onee marketing something effectively doesn't mean being able to make an effective product. He is a marketer first and foremost. You have failed to see that he isn't trying to emulate apple. He is trying to create the atmosphere that there aren't any other android competitors. Setting his own marketing stage.
@@onee This is a reach if I've ever heard one. If your gonna nuthug the the Blood Cult that is Apple, just say so dude lol. Carl Pei hitting Forbes 30 under 30 and 40 under 40 in less than 5 years discredits every single part of your garbage opinion. HOW ABOUT WE LET THE BRAVE INNOVATORS INNOVATE ? AND MAYBE SHUT TF UP BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO IT ? EHHHH?!
@@VardhanShrivastava I've noticed a lot of people in these and other video comments that almost everyone is missing his point by saying that he wants to take on apple or theirs no other real innovative smart phone companies, anyone with a double digit IQ should know that theirs absolutely no chance in hell that the “nothing phone “ will ever make a dent in apple’s market share and yet that’s what these people in the comments section are choosing to believe,😂🤣,what the hell?!
I'm actually super excited for the chipmakers to make their chiplet standards and I hope it does lead to a high quality, more diverse smartphone market
I just hope the back of the phone is clear like the headphones. Because the 90s kid in me really wants a 2022 version of that see through VTech cordless. Translucent. Whatever.
This isn't an apple replacement. This is a more innovative affordable option. World bought the hype. I honestly don't see the hate nothing is receiving. Let's face it, this is their first year unlike other established brands and they did good. Like literally if these exact same features were given by iPhone, people would blindly pay 1000s of dollars and call it a masterpiece. Just because it's something new and from a place of unfamiliarity, you can't hate on it. Or you can. Who am I to judge... Wish there were more insights
Problem with the Nothing-Apple analogy is that the quality of the former’s products don’t match that of the latter. I had ear(1)s for two months and they were a dreadful buggy mess; most times I used them the noise transparency/cancelling and gestures just didn’t work, despite all the software updates. Sent them back and bought AirPods Pro instead which were both way more reliable and much superior in sound quality. The nothing brand seems at this point to be a frustrating amalgamation of sophistry and artificial marketing hype - living up to their name, I guess.
I think Nothing has a really good industrial design that is going under the radar. But that's all, apart from their design, they shouldn't set the expectations so high.
Aforementioned design isn't even theirs. It's a brainchild of a company called Teenage Engineering who in my opinion are incredibly well versed in industrial design. Even the Android skin shown in their keynote has UI design principles seen in Teenage Engineering products. Nothing on the other hand are talented in hyping things up.
@@BecauseBinge wow that's interesting. Didn't know that. I agree, they're good at hyping up and that's just it. We'll see what they'll become in the future.
5:25 Yeah it is. Sometimes I like their ads and presentations but some of their videos are so bad that I almost can't believe that it's actually from xiaomi.
If this dude thinks that there has been no innovations since the first iPhone then maybe he should try using the first iPhone as his daily driver and see how it works out. Even modern iPhones are so much different than the first iPhone! What he probably meant was there hasn’t been a breakthrough smartphone since the first iPhone and that’s because things improve over time. Very rarely is there a revolutionary improvement that changes everything.
Danish MP Ida Auken already predicted what Carl Pei was up to when he presented his 2016 essay to the World Economic Forum and stated that "You'll Own Nothing and Be Happy"! ;-)
i liked your rant, especially, because it's how I always felt during announcements... really any announcements. But making a phone announcement and not showing it, is really something.
Karl Pei was the core of marketing and design development team in OnePlus. Since he left, I can see how unstable the company got. According to me Karl Pei is one of the best founders and CEO. How is everyone forgetting OnePlus. At first, they were also an exclusive brand, providing phones to certain users with passes, they didn't reveal their products , etc
'Nothing' try to steal Apple customer, but they forget that Apple products is about social status as well, in short 'bragging'. But if 'Nothing' customer want to brag, they'll just looks like being humble. Like if someone admire your phone and asking what phone do you use, the answer will be "oh it's Nothing" LoL
Carl: "There's no innovation in phones anymore!" Also Carl: *makes a phone that literally looks like a cheap iPhone knockoff* This is going to be another Essential Phone, mark my words.
Let's be honest what do we do with phones? Go on social media, eBay mobile banking, take pictures of our food and call and text. This phone will do all of that. For the money it does all it needs to 🤷♂️
Dude, Carl Pei (CEO of Nothing) has always been obsessed with the iPhone. He still talks about Apple and the iPhone.... Seriously, is he ever going to get over it. Or will he just continue creating copy cat phones. He was even spotted tweeting from an iPhone when he left OnePlus. And while working at OnePlus he was so obsessed with Apple that they decided to name their in-between models T models (like the 7T or 8T). Because it is one letter after the S that Apple uses. This is the definition of being cringe while trying to look cool. He started his presentation as if he was about to announce something as revolutionary as the iPhone. He instead ended up announcing just another "boring" phone. The exact things he criticized seconds ago.
in 2014 the smartphone market was a maturing market, now its already a mature market i am pessimistic of the ability of a new company without any aces on its sleeves to gain market share
Carl did create OnePlus in order to make powerful devices not as expensive as the high-end brands (Apple, Samsung). So when OnePlus started to make shit, he left, because his brand wasn't matching his philosophy anymore. When he's talking about innovations, it's not only about hardware. Folding phones were nothing but useless and expensive. It was innovation, indeed, but if people can't buy it, why is it useful for ? I agree Carl didn't tell us lots of things about their phone, but it's not a reason to just spit on their ambition. Using the same reasoning, what brand always talked about innovations ? Apple, which, surprisingly, brings nothing but new emojis these days. Their hardware is late on every other brand and their software didn't change since 2012.
No what's funny is he says Apple's ecosystem can't be matched and yet Apple's ecosystem is definitely matched in fact nothing is going to make their phone based on Google's ecosystem which most definitely matches Apple's ecosystem if not it goes further in some cases!
I think xiaomi home devices are well designed, most people that i know that have iphones and have xiaomi home devices love the design and how good it is for the money
@@joaolucio3274 Yes that is true Xiaomi products don’t look cheap. but the reason that Apple users buy Xiaomi products like vacuum cleaners and other home products is that they use the same design language as apple
@@lesleyhaan116 yes and then they like how not cheap they actually work. You can make an apple clone product but making it cheap and good it's another story. Xiaomi ecosystem is really good, their phones are just getting not so good and very expensive
Comparing their products with other companies probably the wrose thing they could do, they should just launch their product and let the people be the judge. Why compare?? 🤔
The only reason I think nothing makes a bit of a sense is that Xiaomi or most other Chinese phones have crap software. Stock Android is good but it doesn't have the individuality and branding that miui or one UI have. The problem is from what they have shown their doesn't seem to be anything particularly different except the dot design. If it looks this bland in their presentation I wonder how it looks irl. Pixels have much better branding and individuality in terms of hardware and software design.
xiaomi only has software issues on budget phones. If you look at all other brands with budget socs like samsung m series they are in the same category of bad
Come on, am I not the only one who thinks those are obviously just marketing videos? These reviews and comments are suspiciously have no negative comments and most importantly disagreeable. Feels like these guys were forced to review this product and shut their mouth about how boring this phone is.
**I was optimistic about Nothing Phone 1 and when I saw this title I thought it will be senseless rant but evey point U put ade comeplete sense to me.* Hats off to u for this video.
That keynote was just a 17 minute investment pitch. Lots of big claims just to get more money sooner. Saw Carl tweet about the keynote on Twitter and he immediately tweeted a link to invest straight after.
Regardless, it is good to have some more competition in the mix, Android world is not that crowded as it once was..big brands like Htc, LG, Huawei doesn't exist anymore, Sonys presence in the market was practically non existent... and at their peak they were very promising, So I feel like there is a vaccume create in the market and and nothing has to chip in and deliver.
the phones actually pretty damn good for the most part, been using it since launch. The hardware is good value but It's all about that sexy design really, it's like an Apple form over function thing, only with android functionality and at a reasonable price
There is a reason as to why Apple has a great ecosystem. 1: they have money to develop. 2: They focus on THEIR ecosystem, and do not really try to push their services to other platforms. Yes, I know that iTunes is on windows but that is not all of their services. Apple really likes to control what is able to work with their ecosystem too. IMO Apple is an over-glorified ecosystem. But I do like them because their ecosystem works pretty much flawlessly. They also gave us the first multi touch smart phone by hiring the two founders of FingerWorks I believe. Mr. Jobs obviously did not mention them which is pretty rude and claimed Apple developed it... which is technically true... I think Nothing will flop like.. what was it again?... it was another adjective... Oh, right Essential. I think Nothing may also gain popularity. As their event was literally NOTHING important. As TechAlter said their claims on other brands not being innovating, and I somewhat agree with NOTHING on that. just hang with me here... While Royole FlexPai made the first smartphone to fold, Samsung was able to push their phone to the U.S., what did adding a folding screen do? Sure, you can watch videos on a bigger screen (with massive black letterboxing depending on which folding phone you get). But I don't really watch videos on my phone... and I wouldn't want too either. It hurts my eyes and strains them. I don't write scripts on them and I don't really use my phone that much... I should really just get a flip phone.... get it? because it folds... either way, Folding phones are novelty like most smartphones are. As for other things that folding phones do, it drains your pocket. They're way expensive (and I am not saying that because I can’t get one. I could, but I won’t because again... I don’t use my phone in the way I guess a folding phone should be used. It would just drain my pocket), also they are way too fragile in my eyes. They may use Poled for their screens but that also means they are super prone to scratches. You can’t have hardness and flexibility. Once again, these phones are novelty, and I don’t mean to sound rude. I think these folding phones are super cool, and I wanted one when they first came out. But again, I looked at the cost and I know how much I use my phone, so to justify getting one would have been irresponsible on my part. But “vis ta vie” to those who still got them. To conclude, folding phones are innovative in a design sense and not really in a “This makes life better for me” sense. If you want a bigger screen, I would suggest getting a tablet? Samsung's Tab S series is super nice and I may get one. Just so when I am on break at work, I have a nice bright screen to read my comics on and watch some videos on, and then at home I don’t have to use my computer to watch shows on, I can just use my Tablet. The cameras are a good example, I use my camera on my phone a lot, and I know that may sound contradictory to what i said earlier “I don't really use my phone that much.” But I do use the camera a lot. I just don’t use my phone to watch a lot of media hence why the folding phone may not just be for me. But Oppo was the first to unveil a phone with periscope cameras, Huawei's P30 Pro was the first phone to be shipped with it. If a phone company wanted to make a true photography phone that would be awesome and very innovative in the photography sense and tailored to those who want an amazing photography camera. I find Google’s phones from the Pixel 1 to the Pixel 3 to be the coolest as they were able to innovate software to do what hardware already did. They didn’t need hardware to compete, they used software for 3 full generations to compete with others like Huawei, Samsung and Apple. That is fantastic! This is amazing. That is the power of innovation, and I am a fan of Google's power to use software to compete with hardware. However, they did bring in some hardware on the Pixel 4 to compete. By the way Google also was the first to make a phone do night mode the best and also astrophotography the best, through software, not hardware. Big companies like Apple, Samsung and whoever else did stop innovating in massive ways. Apple didn’t make multi touch displays, they just bought the people who did make it. They aren’t coming out with a phone that has a separate graphics card, but also it seems like Nvidia is on that. We are innovating in a small sense, but that is only because we are working with a computer that fits in our hands. It's kind of hard to innovate and break beyond our limits. We have to just wait and see what comes next and see what tickles our fancy. I told you that I am more interested in photography and I would also like a phone with a separate graphics card. Would put those foldable phones to better use and make a dope ass tablet. But this is the end… I made my rant in a RUclips comment because no one will see it. To top it off. I think Nothing will just be another Essential bust… haha see what I did there? They may become big for whatever reason. But if NOTHING wants to become big, they should focus on transparency and knowing their limits on what they can deliver. But who am I kidding? They will probably just be as shady and non-transparent as every other cell phone company. As that is the norm, and it is scary to break the norm even though being transparent shouldn’t be scary.
Aerospace engineer here: Regarding your Quiz Answer 2 is wrong, there are magnetorquers used in Low Earth Orbit that use the Earths magnetic field for attitude control
I'm utterly just surprised at how much people in the comments of the Nothing event video are praising it. It's exactly what it said it would be: nothing. For all the shit Apple gets at least they present physical stuff at their events which Nothing so desperately wants to emulate.
I think it will be normal android experience not even like pixel... Considering he told it has minimal animations and stuff... So basically maybe good ram management , performance and some nothing themed apps + google stock apps that's it. I know NOTHING about the camera tho 🤣 I hope something good like iPhone comes in android world someday... Absolutely done with samsung so crappy Exynos and Snapdragon overheating poor performance phones and videography is terrible.
The good RAM management is nearly impossible with Android, they have deep dependency with Java, blame the Java for the differences between iOS and Android, you need to run that as like a Virtual Machine, or like an Emulator, draining your RAM and your performance too.
Carl said in an interview that they bought essential, so probably they will build on top of the vision that Andy Rubin wanted to achieve with the company.
I really don't care for Nothing at this point. It is all hype, their products thus far have been meh, and their design language doesn't appeal to me in the slightest. It is very techy, with transparent parts showing off internals and fonts and graphics that look like they were printed on a dot matrix printer. These are not things I would think would appeal to regular folks, let alone the high end clientele that Apple attracts with their clean, modern design language.
I predict the innovation will come in the form of you buy the phone, and the box will arrive empty, hence the name Nothing Phone. Oh wait the No Phone already did that and it was hella cheap!
Hey, any chance you can upload the videos few hours earlier like before? It was great relief to her your ‘hey happy Friday’ on Friday evenings here in India
He and the recent CEO of OnePlus are geniuses at marketing but yeah that's about it. They hyped the OnePlus Nord so much to the point people were waiting to see the back of the phone and they were talking like they've made something like nothing before. They even made episodes documentary about it before it's launch. All for a.. mid-range phone. The phone itself was not bad. But their hyping led to a dead silence afterwards. People forgot about it. That's why if the hype doesn't match the delivery it's bad. I just hope he's not doing this again but it seems so. He's hyping it but we need to see the delivery. I'll keep my expectations low because of his history with hype.
Sorry for the low-res upload, I have waited 2.5 hours for it to process and tried re-uploading as well, but it just doesn't move, so I published like this.
Maybe RUclips engineers should have taken a few classes over at Brilliant :P brilliant.org/TFC/
Seen your complain on tweet
Never seen you this excited about declarations from a company ("Nothing") :)
1080p isn't low-res. Anything below 720 is.
Just to reassure you, it's 4K as I speak.
I see 1080p so success!
They are living up to their name, showing and saying nothing in the event. Still curious to see what they put out, and trying out a new launcher is always cool
doubt they will create a selling point with the UI only... most ppl prefer to stick to the well known brands samsung apple xiaomi etc.....
@@mortuus4601 that what he did with the oneplus brand long time ago. The software of oxygen os was one of the main selling point
@@hakeem9034 And it worked until they tried making a flagship.
And also isn't it just OnePlus. I mean aren't they owned by the same company.
@@hakeem9034 That's true, I bought the Oneplus 6 just for software, still have it and think it's better than many others, and now I refuse to update to Android 11 because I hate the direction they've taken.
I'm very curious to see what Nothing put out.
If Nothing puts a headphone jack on their phone, that'll be innovation
If and only if it is a flagship phone. Also, only since LG V60 which did have a headphone jack on a flagship. Furthermore, only if it has a quad-DAC for the headphone jack, as the V60. That would be innovative...
I doubt it since they're selling wireless earbuds
@@v3xman They claim to build an open ecosystem, what's open about it if it doesn't give user the choice to use either wired solution or wireless one?
Oh just remembered, Sony's Xperia lineup of flagships all have headphone jacks
@@CerealforProtein And they are amazing. But unfortunately they're a lil overpriced. If only they had more competetive prices...
"this week I have a rant about nothing" that's an amazing start :)
10/10 comedy xD
I've always been skeptical of the Nothing brand. They are making these huge promises but with such little info they're giving, whether or not they deliver remains to be seen. Less talking, more showing pls. Don't get me wrong, I would love the Android smartphone market to be innovative again, but at this point Samsung and Xiaomi are so far ahead and so deep in the market that it'll be severely difficult for a new brand to find some traction to survive. I would love to be proven wrong though. If Nothing succeeds, then we're all better for it. If it doesn't, then that's unfortunate but mostly to be expected.
Talk is cheap. Karl Pei is genius at marketing but marketing can only get you so far. Pretending that you will be Apple's opposite end with nothing products and services thus far and shitting on other Android OEMs is ridiculous.
@@panathatube Well-said.
I agree. Nothing is starting with their FIRST PHONE and making incredibly lofty claims about a huge industry. If they live up to the claims then I'll be extremely happy, but if not, which is the more likely option, they'll have embarrassed themselves. Their marketing just infuriated me from the start, with their focus on artificially built hype being so irritating and their claims not matching what they give.
@@panathatube I think this comment is cheap.
@@debraj-kayal Who cares what you think
A company slapping an icon pack and widgets over "uninnovative" stock android skin. Yeah very innovative.
It literally looks like Pixel Android with custom widgets 😂
What amazes me is that there isn't even an icon pack, just custom widgets. It looks like the Pixel launcher but with some fancy custom KWGT widgets and the dotted font for the lock and homescreen. If that's the extent of their customization it'll be so sad, because a phone based around their glossy, translucent, industrial style could actually be really cool.
I'll be interested to see if the phone itself has a transparent glossy back that exposes the ACTUAL internals, like the buds. That would be standout. But I'm not holding my breath.
Please more rants in the future, this was hilarious while i agreed with all your points. And it wasn't just a random rant but one from someone who has actually worked for a smartphone company
IMO, a brand naming themselves "nothing" sounds transparently like just a huge joke. Like they'll eventually go: "What did you expect from us? We're offering Nothing and will be delivering Nothing"
Lmao what's this comment
Indeed what it looks like. Can't expect much with what they are presenting.
My guess is that it's the FBI baiting narcos to try to invest on it
what i love about xiaomi is that there is a huge independent developer community that make awesome software for those who are willing to tinkle
*tinker. Tinkle means... something else.
@@nateayidefinitely made me chuckle reading the comment above
are you trolling
Tinkle is urinating.
That's not a good thing about Xiaomi, it's a good thing about the community, they step in because Xiaomi gives little long-term support, specially in terms of Android updates to low-end and mid-range devices.
"Nothing" got 2 things right: The amount of interest I have and the amount of money I'll spend with them.
Absolutely!
Totally
i think the nothing brand is trying to revive the "tech eunthusiast" smartphone market gap left by oneplus but i think many of those enthusiasts have already moved on to either iphone or samsung galaxy
Tech enthusiast market in South Asia or SEA region still filled with only Xiaomi. So they definitely have a chance.
I think Sony fills that niche better than OnePlus
@@ChristianYoga I don't think so, Xiaomi and Realme are absolutely ruthless when it comes to pricing their, so I don't see Nothing competing with them anytime soon.
Yes. I bought the Oneplus X due to the design and the size. But Jesus Christ, this one went to shit so f fast. They didn’t update it after a while and the battery died faster than any other tech product I have ever used. Then went to Samsung for 4 phones (all also had the exact same problem + stutter) so I switched to the iPhone XS. Never been happier with a phone. Like I am tech savvy, I would wish Apple wouldn’t be so fucking closed with your data, but everything I want from phone: fluidity, updates, fast experience, long battery life etc is done pristinely by Apple. Hands fucking down
A real "tech enthusiast" will never move to iPhone.
Samsung definitely has an Ecosystem That is very close to being as good as apple's offering
Tru, galaxy laptops work pretty well with samsung phones
I don't think so. While it has come a very long way it's still pretty rough around the edges. The reasons are that their products work almost as well with other devices as well as Samsung ones and that there are multiple options to do one thing. For example, if I want to transfer a video from a Galaxy Phone to a Galaxy Tab I can do it through quick share, nearby share, or Samsung Flow and all of that leads to confusion, so it's not as effortless as Apple's.
Not even close. Long time Samsung user here.
LoL 🤣 No
@@alext2664 many generations of Samsung devices used, all forgettable
It's just so ridiculous that Nothing claims to bring Innovation to the table yet all they were able to show was literally a wallpaper and some widgets 🤦🏻♂️
I'm 100% sure that their first phone will once again just be another rebranded phone - probably from Oppo - with TINY tweaks on the camera bump design and that's it. There won't be any innovations at all.
the Oneplus phones were rebranded Oppo phones because Oneplus was a brand under the BBK group.
Which means Oneplus and Oppo were owned by a single parent company from the very beginning of oneplus' existence, nothing cant do the same thing as they're an independent brand now. but still their phone wont be as good as they're hyping it up to be imo.
The investors of nothing is CEO from American companies so I doubt it could be having influence of Chinese companies.. Carl had clear vision to sell phone at marginal price with no advertising etc. I have been following oneplus since oneplus 1 and own 3t and currently using 7t which was last flagship killer. From oneplus 8, oneplus started increasing price and giving old tech and that's when Carl left oneplus..
I don't think there is going to be any innovation with nothing phone but what I think is it would be atleast launched at budget price. If it's going to launch at 1000 usd price then sure it's going to fail.
Just wait ffs, it's a new company
Coming out of the gate and announcing that Apple is the only competition for them. They saw the possibility during the launch of Nothing ear 1 in that how it was so heavily compared with Airpods and now maybe have decided to capitalise and control the narrative. Total PR move. lets see how it pans out.
Nope, Carl Pei (the CEO) has always been obsessed with Apple. He keeps seeing whatever he makes constantly as the "next Apple". And because of that he never will become "the next Apple".
Here is a great example, but why do you think the in-between models of OnePlus (when he used to work there) are called T models (like the 7T and 8T). Because it's one plus letter after the S...... Because Apple uses the letter S for their in-between models. Seriously that's how uncreative his background is. Instead of innovating something completely new, like Apple did with the iPhone or Motorola did with the DynaTAC (first cellphone). He just looks at Apple and thinks "How can we be the Apple for the Android market?" and then miserably fails at that. I have a OnePlus and they can't even get the basic software right, how does he think that he can ever create an Apple competitor if all they do is just jam the fastest hardware into a phone, without ever caring about the software.... Let alone comparing himself to Apple, he shouldn't even mention it AT ALL. Not even Samsung. Because most of his competition at least bothers to put something as basic as a step counter that doesn't in their smartphone.
@@onee marketing something effectively doesn't mean being able to make an effective product. He is a marketer first and foremost. You have failed to see that he isn't trying to emulate apple. He is trying to create the atmosphere that there aren't any other android competitors. Setting his own marketing stage.
@@onee This is a reach if I've ever heard one. If your gonna nuthug the the Blood Cult that is Apple, just say so dude lol. Carl Pei hitting Forbes 30 under 30 and 40 under 40 in less than 5 years discredits every single part of your garbage opinion. HOW ABOUT WE LET THE BRAVE INNOVATORS INNOVATE ? AND MAYBE SHUT TF UP BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO IT ? EHHHH?!
@@VardhanShrivastava I've noticed a lot of people in these and other video comments that almost everyone is missing his point by saying that he wants to take on apple or theirs no other real innovative smart phone companies, anyone with a double digit IQ should know that theirs absolutely no chance in hell that the “nothing phone “ will ever make a dent in apple’s market share and yet that’s what these people in the comments section are choosing to believe,😂🤣,what the hell?!
Nothing is so fucking pretentious it hurts. They release one mediocre pair of earphones and think they can bring down apple...
I'm actually super excited for the chipmakers to make their chiplet standards and I hope it does lead to a high quality, more diverse smartphone market
Nothing's "innovation", so far: an earphone with a clear case.... aaaand *nothing* else.
I just hope the back of the phone is clear like the headphones. Because the 90s kid in me really wants a 2022 version of that see through VTech cordless. Translucent. Whatever.
I remember the translucent GameBoy Clear. It was beautiful
Basically the Nothing event was a investor's pitch rather than an actual product announcement. All flash and no substance.
u kidding? your rants are awesome, your techaltar video about curved screens was awesome and that was basically one giant rant
This isn't an apple replacement. This is a more innovative affordable option. World bought the hype. I honestly don't see the hate nothing is receiving. Let's face it, this is their first year unlike other established brands and they did good. Like literally if these exact same features were given by iPhone, people would blindly pay 1000s of dollars and call it a masterpiece. Just because it's something new and from a place of unfamiliarity, you can't hate on it. Or you can. Who am I to judge... Wish there were more insights
Problem with the Nothing-Apple analogy is that the quality of the former’s products don’t match that of the latter. I had ear(1)s for two months and they were a dreadful buggy mess; most times I used them the noise transparency/cancelling and gestures just didn’t work, despite all the software updates. Sent them back and bought AirPods Pro instead which were both way more reliable and much superior in sound quality. The nothing brand seems at this point to be a frustrating amalgamation of sophistry and artificial marketing hype - living up to their name, I guess.
The price diff tho?
I think Nothing has a really good industrial design that is going under the radar. But that's all, apart from their design, they shouldn't set the expectations so high.
Aforementioned design isn't even theirs. It's a brainchild of a company called Teenage Engineering who in my opinion are incredibly well versed in industrial design. Even the Android skin shown in their keynote has UI design principles seen in Teenage Engineering products. Nothing on the other hand are talented in hyping things up.
@@BecauseBinge wow that's interesting. Didn't know that. I agree, they're good at hyping up and that's just it. We'll see what they'll become in the future.
5:25 Yeah it is. Sometimes I like their ads and presentations but some of their videos are so bad that I almost can't believe that it's actually from xiaomi.
If this dude thinks that there has been no innovations since the first iPhone then maybe he should try using the first iPhone as his daily driver and see how it works out. Even modern iPhones are so much different than the first iPhone! What he probably meant was there hasn’t been a breakthrough smartphone since the first iPhone and that’s because things improve over time. Very rarely is there a revolutionary improvement that changes everything.
If Carl Pei can do with nothing like he wanted with OnePlus, than I have faith.
AGREED!
Faith is a great indicator of investing trustworthiness!
We are Nothing. Therefore, it is only safe to assume that we will give you nothing and deliver nothing. -Nothing, probably
Danish MP Ida Auken already predicted what Carl Pei was up to when he presented his 2016 essay to the World Economic Forum and stated that "You'll Own Nothing and Be Happy"! ;-)
Can you elaborate more on that please? What did the MP said about him
i liked your rant, especially, because it's how I always felt during announcements... really any announcements. But making a phone announcement and not showing it, is really something.
Karl Pei was the core of marketing and design development team in OnePlus. Since he left, I can see how unstable the company got. According to me Karl Pei is one of the best founders and CEO. How is everyone forgetting OnePlus. At first, they were also an exclusive brand, providing phones to certain users with passes, they didn't reveal their products , etc
Great work on the weekly videos, you best tech round up on the platform!
'Nothing' try to steal Apple customer, but they forget that Apple products is about social status as well, in short 'bragging'.
But if 'Nothing' customer want to brag, they'll just looks like being humble.
Like if someone admire your phone and asking what phone do you use, the answer will be "oh it's Nothing" LoL
Lmao I'm dyingg 🤣🤣🤣
That rant is actually what everyone thinks about Nothing right now and was satisfying to hear you saying all those words
Carl: "There's no innovation in phones anymore!"
Also Carl: *makes a phone that literally looks like a cheap iPhone knockoff*
This is going to be another Essential Phone, mark my words.
Let's be honest what do we do with phones? Go on social media, eBay mobile banking, take pictures of our food and call and text. This phone will do all of that. For the money it does all it needs to 🤷♂️
Dude, Carl Pei (CEO of Nothing) has always been obsessed with the iPhone. He still talks about Apple and the iPhone.... Seriously, is he ever going to get over it. Or will he just continue creating copy cat phones. He was even spotted tweeting from an iPhone when he left OnePlus. And while working at OnePlus he was so obsessed with Apple that they decided to name their in-between models T models (like the 7T or 8T). Because it is one letter after the S that Apple uses. This is the definition of being cringe while trying to look cool.
He started his presentation as if he was about to announce something as revolutionary as the iPhone. He instead ended up announcing just another "boring" phone. The exact things he criticized seconds ago.
in 2014 the smartphone market was a maturing market, now its already a mature market i am pessimistic of the ability of a new company without any aces on its sleeves to gain market share
„This week I had a rant about nothing”
Audio this week is great! No hissing or glitches.
Ngl but I like these types of actually insightful rants lmao good one 👏🏼💯
Carl did create OnePlus in order to make powerful devices not as expensive as the high-end brands (Apple, Samsung). So when OnePlus started to make shit, he left, because his brand wasn't matching his philosophy anymore.
When he's talking about innovations, it's not only about hardware. Folding phones were nothing but useless and expensive. It was innovation, indeed, but if people can't buy it, why is it useful for ? I agree Carl didn't tell us lots of things about their phone, but it's not a reason to just spit on their ambition.
Using the same reasoning, what brand always talked about innovations ? Apple, which, surprisingly, brings nothing but new emojis these days. Their hardware is late on every other brand and their software didn't change since 2012.
No what's funny is he says Apple's ecosystem can't be matched and yet Apple's ecosystem is definitely matched in fact nothing is going to make their phone based on Google's ecosystem which most definitely matches Apple's ecosystem if not it goes further in some cases!
Did you watch the NFT video from the lefty aswell?
Waiting for Carl to fake the benchmarks again. Not gonna wait for them to innovate Nothing.
when you unbox nothing phones you should say "wow, nothing"
I just hope they keep their design choice consistent. I love transparent tech and want some transparent phones.
Nothing is nothing but a April fools joke
"I promise you, no more rants"
Why? Please do keep ranting, loving it 😂
I think xiaomi home devices are well designed, most people that i know that have iphones and have xiaomi home devices love the design and how good it is for the money
they love the design because Xiaomi copy apples design language
@@lesleyhaan116 so you are agreeing with me lol never said they didn't. I was saying that the design was not seeing as cheap as he said in the video
@@joaolucio3274 Yes that is true Xiaomi products don’t look cheap. but the reason that Apple users buy Xiaomi products like vacuum cleaners and other home products is that they use the same design language as apple
@@lesleyhaan116 yes and then they like how not cheap they actually work. You can make an apple clone product but making it cheap and good it's another story. Xiaomi ecosystem is really good, their phones are just getting not so good and very expensive
Comparing their products with other companies probably the wrose thing they could do, they should just launch their product and let the people be the judge. Why compare?? 🤔
Unless Carl is planning to bring a new gadget to market , he don't have any right to complain that their is no innovative
The only reason I think nothing makes a bit of a sense is that Xiaomi or most other Chinese phones have crap software. Stock Android is good but it doesn't have the individuality and branding that miui or one UI have.
The problem is from what they have shown their doesn't seem to be anything particularly different except the dot design. If it looks this bland in their presentation I wonder how it looks irl. Pixels have much better branding and individuality in terms of hardware and software design.
xiaomi only has software issues on budget phones. If you look at all other brands with budget socs like samsung m series they are in the same category of bad
Nothing launcher closing app animations are already broken like poco launcher. Lol
If the pretentious over-use of the word 'Aesthetic' was a company this would be it.
Hello Martin, I really like the weekly format of TFA. Very compact in under 10 minutes. Btw, what brand are your glasses?
Come on, am I not the only one who thinks those are obviously just marketing videos? These reviews and comments are suspiciously have no negative comments and most importantly disagreeable. Feels like these guys were forced to review this product and shut their mouth about how boring this phone is.
So Nothing is vanilla but acting like it's chocolate. Reminds me of a story of an emporer and his new clothes
**I was optimistic about Nothing Phone 1 and when I saw this title I thought it will be senseless rant but evey point U put ade comeplete sense to me.* Hats off to u for this video.
Now I know who was behind those esoteric OnePlus reveals.
That keynote was just a 17 minute investment pitch. Lots of big claims just to get more money sooner. Saw Carl tweet about the keynote on Twitter and he immediately tweeted a link to invest straight after.
The quiz gets stuck on the Skylon question on my iPhone 13 Pro Max (using Safari).
Regardless, it is good to have some more competition in the mix, Android world is not that crowded as it once was..big brands like Htc, LG, Huawei doesn't exist anymore, Sonys presence in the market was practically non existent... and at their peak they were very promising, So I feel like there is a vaccume create in the market and and nothing has to chip in and deliver.
After few years he might quit nothing like he did with the 1+and might create a brand called everything
you are 100% correct. This is july and their phone released to the youtubers. There's nothing new except some gimmick light show.
Annoying how every company does marketing for Apple more than they market their own stuff
the phones actually pretty damn good for the most part, been using it since launch. The hardware is good value but It's all about that sexy design really, it's like an Apple form over function thing, only with android functionality and at a reasonable price
I bet you never used their earbuds as a daily driver and yet here you are making this.
A measured response? Okay.
Hold on a sec. Doesn't Spotify already has its own billing? Or I'm I the only person not using Google for my Spotify premium subscription?
it does, if you pay through the spotify website. I believe this is referring to those that subscribe through the app?
I don't even use spotify hehea
How is the recently launched space telescope named after? How? How ?
1st guy :i have samsung
2nd guy : i have iPhone
Me : i have nothing
The two guys walk away
Another weekend tonic. Thanks for the video brother
Nothing is very pretentious like they think they're Apple, but fail to remember that Apple did not start like that at all
There is a reason as to why Apple has a great ecosystem. 1: they have money to develop. 2: They focus on THEIR ecosystem, and do not really try to push their services to other platforms. Yes, I know that iTunes is on windows but that is not all of their services. Apple really likes to control what is able to work with their ecosystem too. IMO Apple is an over-glorified ecosystem. But I do like them because their ecosystem works pretty much flawlessly. They also gave us the first multi touch smart phone by hiring the two founders of FingerWorks I believe. Mr. Jobs obviously did not mention them which is pretty rude and claimed Apple developed it... which is technically true...
I think Nothing will flop like.. what was it again?... it was another adjective... Oh, right Essential. I think Nothing may also gain popularity. As their event was literally NOTHING important. As TechAlter said their claims on other brands not being innovating, and I somewhat agree with NOTHING on that. just hang with me here... While Royole FlexPai made the first smartphone to fold, Samsung was able to push their phone to the U.S., what did adding a folding screen do? Sure, you can watch videos on a bigger screen (with massive black letterboxing depending on which folding phone you get). But I don't really watch videos on my phone... and I wouldn't want too either. It hurts my eyes and strains them. I don't write scripts on them and I don't really use my phone that much... I should really just get a flip phone.... get it? because it folds... either way, Folding phones are novelty like most smartphones are. As for other things that folding phones do, it drains your pocket. They're way expensive (and I am not saying that because I can’t get one. I could, but I won’t because again... I don’t use my phone in the way I guess a folding phone should be used. It would just drain my pocket), also they are way too fragile in my eyes. They may use Poled for their screens but that also means they are super prone to scratches. You can’t have hardness and flexibility. Once again, these phones are novelty, and I don’t mean to sound rude. I think these folding phones are super cool, and I wanted one when they first came out. But again, I looked at the cost and I know how much I use my phone, so to justify getting one would have been irresponsible on my part. But “vis ta vie” to those who still got them. To conclude, folding phones are innovative in a design sense and not really in a “This makes life better for me” sense. If you want a bigger screen, I would suggest getting a tablet? Samsung's Tab S series is super nice and I may get one. Just so when I am on break at work, I have a nice bright screen to read my comics on and watch some videos on, and then at home I don’t have to use my computer to watch shows on, I can just use my Tablet.
The cameras are a good example, I use my camera on my phone a lot, and I know that may sound contradictory to what i said earlier “I don't really use my phone that much.” But I do use the camera a lot. I just don’t use my phone to watch a lot of media hence why the folding phone may not just be for me. But Oppo was the first to unveil a phone with periscope cameras, Huawei's P30 Pro was the first phone to be shipped with it. If a phone company wanted to make a true photography phone that would be awesome and very innovative in the photography sense and tailored to those who want an amazing photography camera. I find Google’s phones from the Pixel 1 to the Pixel 3 to be the coolest as they were able to innovate software to do what hardware already did. They didn’t need hardware to compete, they used software for 3 full generations to compete with others like Huawei, Samsung and Apple. That is fantastic! This is amazing. That is the power of innovation, and I am a fan of Google's power to use software to compete with hardware. However, they did bring in some hardware on the Pixel 4 to compete. By the way Google also was the first to make a phone do night mode the best and also astrophotography the best, through software, not hardware.
Big companies like Apple, Samsung and whoever else did stop innovating in massive ways. Apple didn’t make multi touch displays, they just bought the people who did make it. They aren’t coming out with a phone that has a separate graphics card, but also it seems like Nvidia is on that. We are innovating in a small sense, but that is only because we are working with a computer that fits in our hands. It's kind of hard to innovate and break beyond our limits. We have to just wait and see what comes next and see what tickles our fancy. I told you that I am more interested in photography and I would also like a phone with a separate graphics card. Would put those foldable phones to better use and make a dope ass tablet.
But this is the end… I made my rant in a RUclips comment because no one will see it. To top it off. I think Nothing will just be another Essential bust… haha see what I did there? They may become big for whatever reason. But if NOTHING wants to become big, they should focus on transparency and knowing their limits on what they can deliver. But who am I kidding? They will probably just be as shady and non-transparent as every other cell phone company. As that is the norm, and it is scary to break the norm even though being transparent shouldn’t be scary.
Aerospace engineer here: Regarding your Quiz Answer 2 is wrong, there are magnetorquers used in Low Earth Orbit that use the Earths magnetic field for attitude control
Oh wow, thanks, we missed that, haha
@@TheFridayCheckout it's pretty new i guess haha
The fact that this video exist proves that their marketing worked.
You were right, it was just some lights on the back😭🤣🤣
Ooooh, I love how the nothing phone rant is about 2/3rds of the video length
I thought Grace Hopper was a pun with "grasshopper".
I hope Carl Pei shows true innovative spirit and bring Nokia brickphone back..
nothing's earphones were also terrible
Let’s be honest, zero fucks given to Nothing (Brand)
I'm utterly just surprised at how much people in the comments of the Nothing event video are praising it. It's exactly what it said it would be: nothing. For all the shit Apple gets at least they present physical stuff at their events which Nothing so desperately wants to emulate.
Nothing looks like iPhone 4. Nothing is Android base and the ringtone function already played for many years. So, Nothing is "Nothing", nice name.
I think it will be normal android experience not even like pixel... Considering he told it has minimal animations and stuff... So basically maybe good ram management , performance and some nothing themed apps + google stock apps that's it. I know NOTHING about the camera tho 🤣 I hope something good like iPhone comes in android world someday... Absolutely done with samsung so crappy Exynos and Snapdragon overheating poor performance phones and videography is terrible.
The good RAM management is nearly impossible with Android, they have deep dependency with Java, blame the Java for the differences between iOS and Android, you need to run that as like a Virtual Machine, or like an Emulator, draining your RAM and your performance too.
Carl said in an interview that they bought essential, so probably they will build on top of the vision that Andy Rubin wanted to achieve with the company.
Best rant I've seen in years, man. Thanks for that! Hahahahaha
Superb video! Finally someone who has talked about nothings hype.
I really don't care for Nothing at this point. It is all hype, their products thus far have been meh, and their design language doesn't appeal to me in the slightest. It is very techy, with transparent parts showing off internals and fonts and graphics that look like they were printed on a dot matrix printer. These are not things I would think would appeal to regular folks, let alone the high end clientele that Apple attracts with their clean, modern design language.
the weather widget is so blunt 😄
I predict the innovation will come in the form of you buy the phone, and the box will arrive empty, hence the name Nothing Phone. Oh wait the No Phone already did that and it was hella cheap!
dropped subscrptions to most tech channels. this one is all i need ❤
Nothing already has two fans and they both disliked this video.
Hey, any chance you can upload the videos few hours earlier like before? It was great relief to her your ‘hey happy Friday’ on Friday evenings here in India
He and the recent CEO of OnePlus are geniuses at marketing but yeah that's about it. They hyped the OnePlus Nord so much to the point people were waiting to see the back of the phone and they were talking like they've made something like nothing before. They even made episodes documentary about it before it's launch. All for a.. mid-range phone. The phone itself was not bad. But their hyping led to a dead silence afterwards. People forgot about it. That's why if the hype doesn't match the delivery it's bad. I just hope he's not doing this again but it seems so. He's hyping it but we need to see the delivery. I'll keep my expectations low because of his history with hype.
Nothing presenting the True Smartphone on TrueMedia Social-Media.
"summer" aka a few weeks after summer ends
NOTHING is such an irritatingly tech hipster company, I am very fed up with this marketing approach by them.
I hope nothing bring back the flagship killer smartphone
I didn't even knew there was another google news app with a similar design to google books