1:24 How can you mention Huawei and still after months not even mention Mate XT 3 Ultimate? But OpenHarmony, has huge potential and there is eruopean companies developing for that, you can investigate it if you want very interesting stuff happening! BTW even MKBHD showed the Huawei Mate XT 3.
*"Their technology is like four generations behind" ...like WTH are you smoking their speed is like last year's SnapDragon by AnTuTu using technics like software and hardware optimization ...This is the exact reason I stopped watching this channel*
I'd love to get Huawei's OS in central Europe. As a developer, I rage quit Android just a few weeks ago, after years of work put into it, switched to iOS 18, but there's paywalls and lockdowns everywhere, "get a macbook, get a developer subscription, enroll/subscribe/pay/etc, sell your soul, and MAYBE we'll let you develop something". I just want to develop cool stuff for myself. If Huawei has a better dev experience, I'm willing to buy and ship it from China, and even learn Chinese.
Huawei, back in the days with no ban, was the best phone manufacturer for me. I still have a functioning P9 and a P20 pro, no service involved, no battery swaped, no screen replacement. In his prime P20 pro had one of the best battery usage (in the same time being one of the thinest phone on the market) , one of the best camera , best and smoothest android interface of the world. Too bad gready americans imposed the ban on them, otherwise Huawei would have been the best in the world these days.
@@jameschalkwig787 Android is not banned on Huaweis, they still use android in Europe and you can install GMS services through microG project :) google it
Their focus is not on the video games but AI and for that they don't need most performant chips. Their prefer more to have control over their chips than having highest benchmark scores. Also their Pixel phones with Tensor chips provide highest security on Android OS.
Hello, pixel 4a 5g user here. Phone has serious frame drop issues, hiccups and is not smooth in various areas. My father has an iPhone 11, which is half a year older in use and the release of the phone was about a year earlier. The smoothness is just insane. In fact, it is smoother than newer a series pixels. We pixel users should stop giving Google a pass. Btw, instead of saying "our new phone will get 7 years of updates", they should have said our seven year old phone will also get the latest update.
@@El.Duder-inoI stopped caring about games when my Pixel 6 (more powerful than my older OP7) demonstrated an inability to play anything because of incredible overheating and absurd thermal throttling. It still sometimes destroys itself because it randomly gets too hot. I have access to 2 Pixel 6, 4 Pixel 6a, 2 Pixel 7a and a Pixel 8 Pro. They all share the randomly overheating problem. It's a Google cannot design phones that cool properly problem together with a Samsung Foundries sucks ass.
But all their chip are still using the 7nm architecture from 2022 while the west have leaped two full generation to 2nm. They come out with cool features and all but their performance is kind of capped at this point at 2022 level.
@@Drifter18903 try check Harmony OS's device optimization. Look at video comparison between Huawei Mate 60 pro vs ip 16 pro max. Even with chip 7nm , they are inevitable .
I hope that you are not just saying it. I have a Huawei nova 9 and some of the apps that I want to use completely sucks, like the Jlab app. Or where APKPure has taken away the ability to listen to the bible on the bible app but the play button is still there.
Obviously many people don't know Huawei's HarmonyOS Next (Harmony OS 5) is based off OpenHarmony OS, which is donated by Huawei to open source society.
The only way for Harmony OS to work is for Oppo, Xiaomi etc. to be forced to use Harmony OS. Initially in China, later wordwide. But I am not sure they would want, Huawei is their direct competitor.
Don’t worry, as long as Huawei's HarmonyOS maintains its technological edge and iOS and Android don’t redesign their architectures in the short term, When HarmonyOS demonstrates its advantages in the era of the Internet of Everything, more developers will naturally switch to HarmonyOS in the future. For now, focusing on the Chinese market is enough.
It's matter of time, the US is going to keep imposing embargo against China to try to stop their development, and China has enough people living there to use their own OS.
@@oluwatayo.x I'm rocking a Pixel 8a(had a 6a before giving it to a family member who still uses it), & for daily usage the Tensor series processors are honestly not that noticeable in a performance hit unless you're outside all day in the heat taking lots of photos with full screen brightness, and it gets hot, my biggest gripe is the lack of an SD card, as I would love to load my phone up with my music collection, and games for emulation when I have time to kill traveling, but having a close to near stock Android UI, and years of updates does make it worth the trade offs though vs. other phones I've owned from companies like Motorola, and Nokia(HDM) in the past at similar price points.
@@oluwatayo.xDo you really need the most powerful chip in your phone though? if it integrates well with Android And is really power efficient, I think that's what most people they get a pixel want
Got the Beta of HarmonyOS Next (5) on my Mate 60 Pro and can confirm way more fluid system, battery life and camera performance. This OS is a true uograde in many ways. Just the app support for the west is lacking completely for now
Western countries that have resisted strong-arming by the US to ban Huawei will initially find themselves unable or unwilling to use Chinese apps in the Huawei ecosystem. However, Harmony OS will receive widespread adoption in China. Once that happens, app makers from the West will clamor to get in on the big, new market. It'll be a new gold rush. They'll port their apps to sell to this market.
I hope HarmonyOS becomes IoT OS, at least for industrial application. If it just mimics what Android is, then not much hope for future. Imagine we can connect cars, house, phone... into one unique ecosystem...
The verge of death? Are you serious? You underestimate the Huawei size. They're not just a smartphone manufacturer. A completely different level compared to Nokia, Ericsson or even Apple. Huawei owns networking equipment manufacturing, they make solutions on mining infrastructure, ship docking infrastructure, forestry infrastructure, autodriving car software and hardware, wearable, IoTs, smarthomes, even few medical softwares, and more. I will not surprised a one day, unexpectedly, just randomly out of nowhere Huawei just make a chip making branch directly competing with SMIC or even TSMC. Huawei is too big, even that famous China's government can't fully contain them. No one can expect their move. Yesterday they make a mobile cellular phone's infrastructure and today they're in an automobil industry and cargo shipping industry, you'll be blown away if suddenly tomorrow you just woke up, reading the tech news and out of nowhere Huawei make their own nuclear reactor on the moon.
They're Samsung of China with how many industries they got their hands in, I wish Nokia+Microsoft never gave up on their smartphones and windows phone or symbian/meego that was ahead of time..
They are nothing in phone devices. They stay relevant because CCP forces government employees and other under its influence to buy their crap. Don't get me wrong, Chinese individuals and small companies are making exceptional innovative products, but not CCP's shell companies.
Death from the smartphone market, and possibly high-end retail electronics as whole. Much like how IBM is still very much around, but consumers aren’t buying IBM branded gadgets anymore.
In fact, Harmony OS has an open source system called Open Harmony, which all developers can develop on their own, just like the relationship between AOSP and Android.
I agree with the NFL player. Even if I was disposed to pay exorbitant prices to get the stream (which also has ads btw), it would be much easier and faster to get a pirated version which could also be higher quality
that e-ink after fold made me think, "Why don't Samsung put e-ink display on the front while using AMOLED on the big screen?" I can see that it is a big way to increase its battery life and taking advantage of e-ink under the sun.
that would be cool but the problem is foldables are already so niche. imagine how much further niche it would be... You would be ordering such a small amount of parts. That's the problem. you would have very little benefit of economies of scale because it's not like you're going to be able to actively use the front e ink screens for much else. But maybe someday foldable's ever command a higher percentage of the market share
Huawei releasing an entire os is a very bold move against Google and Android, but having to use another langage for the apps and not use the Linux kernel maybe goes a little bit too far.
At least take the linux kernel and modify it to suite your needs. I've got no idea why they thought it would be cool for developers to re-program their app just for them. Well, it might work, but personally I think it'll be hard to push many developers into doing that.
most mobile app are based on java, flutter, swift, or web based. as long the source code can be compiled to the new OS (except swift probably), that would be fine.
@@YSKWatch those apps either rely on android apis or only expect android and ios apis, which means that devs would have to put in serious work into supporting this niche os that is not available outside of china
@@lukej7856Used to be, the GPUs are still kinda mediocre. The CPUs have gotten very good. The point is, why would Google bother developing their own CPU cores when they could license better cores from ARM for less money than developing their own (that they still have to pay a license to ARM for).
Yh like billions is crazy lol and also even if that was the case ,most apps are not apps that people download anyway ,there are so many shit apps that people don’t actually download,the number of apps that people download are probably not even a million.
I look it up and the one that ever got released in playstore is around 10m. But because not all apps is on playstore, and its impossible to count the one that not on there. I'll say it might be around 11m to 15m(take this with grain of salt) unique functional apps ever made out there.
@Klatchan Google knows nothing about video games that's why they screwed up Stadia. Should have made a gaming PC or gaming laptop with chromebook hardware or a handheld console with the tensor chips from the pixel phones inside
Most people don't really need a lot of apps. What is more critical is to have a few good useful apps rather than millions or billions of apps which most people won't install on their phones anyway.
Most apps are country based on android and IOS like India may have apps that are meant for the country that other countries can't access that doesn't Mean the app is not useful, also school apps and the rest harmony os is far far behind and I don't like the naming either
@@JCSY1 Not the point. Not everyone in every country uses the same apps. That's why you need a bigger selection of apps. Frankly speaking nobody cares about what apps you use, they care about the apps THEY use. If what you said was true Windows phone wouldn't have flopped. But it did
This is a BS take. Nobody needs that many apps, just like 10 or 20. But only about 5 of those 10 or 20 are mostly the same across all users, the other 5 or 15 are totally different for everybody. For example, I need D&D Beyond to play D&D with friends and it just got borked on my Huawei tablet. I still have it on my Google Pixel, and the site works fine from my PCs both on my Windows desktop and on my Linux laptop, but I do really need it on the tablet because it's the most convenient way of using it while at the table. Do I need 1 billion apps? No. Do I need some pretty specific apps? Yes. Does anybody need 1 billion apps? No. Does the average user need some overly specific niche app? Yes. Not to mention Banks, Public Administration, Museums, Universities all require apps nowadays, and while some of them might add a Huawei version of the app I don't see all of them do it. Are you going to choose your bank based on which OS they support or are you going to choose which phone you don't get based on which OS your fundamental unavoidable application supports?
@@Xi_Pooh_Shill Your ignorance seems has no limit. Never heard about OpenHarmony project in China and Oniro project in EU? They're shares HarmonyOS codes. Many vendors already makes their own OpenHarmony distros.
They've done their operating system, they are using their chips, they are achieving performance on that to match today's google and ios... and we still question them.... They'll blow others out of the water very soon... WIth cars, and hardware...and the rest...
I think people tend to forget that Windows phone died mostly because Microsoft didn't push for it hard enough. They like to pretend that Microsoft literally did everything but still failed ( as a point of reference, Microsoft spent less than 15 billion dollars on Windows phone. While they spent 75 billion to buy Activision). I would be able really interested to know why they didn't have faith in their own product.
@@amirmohamad2270microsoft was competing with apple and Google and the US operational costs are just expensive. Harmony is not facing as stiff competition and cost in China are cheap
nope, harmony next is still using arkts (a modified version of Typescript) as its main application layer developing language, Cangjie language is another story, it would be used to replace C++ in framework layer development, it's still in developing, and it still need at least two years to work.
you are right. I misheard the "arkts" as "argts" and searched for a thing that's doesn't exists. I also heard "native" what made me think "Android NDK" and that Cangjie is C++ replacement.
@@mtxn You are welcome, I've developed applications for Harmony next since sept of 2023, under the beta testing program, started from api9 then api11 and now api12, currently arkts and arkui framework has been quite workable, enough for developing any kind of applications at least, only the native part still has many problem. And I join cangjie inner testing program in two monthes ago, but honestly it is still not stable, need at least two years I guess.Currently, the arkui framework is still programmed by C++, and huawei is planning to push community developers to remake it by cangjie.
First the US bans Chinese companies in using Android with Google Play Services forcing them to create their own OS and now Russian Linux maintainers were removed. Hopefully we can get an alternative desktop OS that is free from all the political BS.
Harmony is here to stay ❤❤nothing can ever stop huawei not even the USA I heard many people saying nokia tried it, but they failed. What you guys need to understand is that the country behind huawei is different from the country behind nokia, and you can never compare China to Finland, China is called the Asian tiger, the sleeping dragon has finally awakened, it's just a matter of time and you will see harmony Os crush both android and IOS. There's nothing the Chinese can't do. ❤❤
I remember when the initial US sanctions basically removed Huawei's ability to use good services, i genuinely thought they were dead and any chance at a Huawei OS was a silly pipedream. And now here we are! Insane! Dont think id actually get one of theor devices at least for a few years, but its super impressive.
7:32 I actually owned one of these ring watches maybe 20 years ago. I forget if Timex made it, but I legitimately liked it lol. Surprised it hasn't shrunk down at all though... that one looks exactly like what I had, except mine was gold.
I’m rooting for Huawei. Their devices are really good and If I was in China I’d definitely have one of their phones instead of an iPhone. I have one of their tablet and is well put together.
@larsradtke4097 Most Huawei users who switched did so due to lack of GPS and an uncertainty about the company's future in the early days of the ban. Very little to do with "privacy invading stuff" .
hate to give the bad news, its not an android competitor. its legitimately just an inferior version of android with a bunch of functionality removed. from what i been reading into, harmony OS is an absolute joke. its still just basic android, with a shiny new skin and almost everything stripped out of it. meaning you cant even install 3rd party apps, as they remove the apk installing functionality. only thing you can install is what they provide on there very limited store, and thats going to be even more limited considering that there removing the play store and everything to do with google. idk why people are so hype for this. its not what you think it is.
Okay, but unless other manufacturers adapts HarmonyOS or started creating their own OSes, that is when we call it a real threat to Android. But as for now, only Huawei uses HarmonyOS. If every manufacturers start to create their own OSes, that will be a real headache to developers and most probably they will just stick with developing apps for Android and iOS.
TSMC's latest node is not longer a proper node shrink, don't forget. 3n is not nanometer anymore - Huawei doesn't need newer than 2 generations because software optimizations will yield greater benefit than tinier hardware can.
hate to give the bad news, its not an android competitor. its legitimately just an inferior version of android with a bunch of functionality removed. from what i been reading into, harmony OS is an absolute joke. its still just basic android, with a shiny new skin and almost everything stripped out of it. meaning you cant even install 3rd party apps, as they remove the apk installing functionality. only thing you can install is what they provide on there very limited store, and thats going to be even more limited considering that there removing the play store and everything to do with google. idk why people are so hype for this. its not what you think it is.
@@birkneoi own huawei papermatte, and everything you said here is just straight up false. You can download apks and the system is actually fluid and fast, the tablets is just 300$ with the keyboard and pen and it is a straight competitor to my ipad (which is around 1500$ with keyboard and pen)
I actually did a survey for the Snapdragon naming scheme which had me rate names like Max, Elite or Pro. Companies really don't know what they're doing.
Hey, just a hands up. There's a weird chime noise in the background of this video. You've messed something up with the audio. Try listening on some high quality headphones, it's mainly in the left ear. It's not present in any other vids.
I can't really see Huawei pulling this off, except maybe within China. The lack of support for APK files is a major dealbreaker, and I have serious doubts about their ability to keep up with maintaining an OS like this, if at all. Watch it will be released, be buggy and have no apps.
There are many countries sanctioned by the US who share the same ambitions with China, to be free of any US-controlled software and hardware, like Iran, Syria and others. I think those countries will be big market for HarmonyOS Next.
well huawei said 99.9% of consumer apps for daily needs in china are already developed. and more apps are on the way. i feel like its gonna take like two years for it to release in global market. they are looking to gain more recognition outside china in the meantime. the partially android version of harmony os has already reached 1 billion devices so i think they can pull it off
@@leonard8766 I reckon that it won’t. Sure, Android and iOS have long dominated the market, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t room for a third operating system. Harmony OS is also considered as a tool that represents technological power in politics, and to show the world how capable China really is. Not to mention China has the largest economy in the world. Huawei, a Chinese-based company will absolutely dominate this market, and will definitely continue expand to overseas.
It is predicted that European and American countries will not use Huawei phones in the future, but more and more people in BRICS countries will use Huawei phones. The biggest obstacle for Huawei to become a super giant is time.
It will. Nobody developed for WP, because Android and iOS had bigger market. Now imagine all these people suddenly developing for an OS that has market only in china xd
@@xx_peace_xx5300 I reckon that it won’t flop. Sure, Android and iOS have long dominated the market, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t room for a third operating system. Harmony OS is also considered as a tool that represents technological power in politics, and to show the world how capable China really is. Not to mention China has the largest economy in the world. Huawei, a Chinese-based company will absolutely dominate this market, and will definitely continue expand to overseas
@@enryhen6859There is no room for an OS that is only available in China. That only happens if the Chinese government forces the Chinese to use apps only available on Harmony OS
It won't flop. They have around 900 millions active users right now. No sane developers in China will ignore those huge chunk of users by any means. Hoyoverse already confirmed that Genshin Impact will be available natively on Harmony Nxt already...
What I meant was, them copying the certain fruit company. Creating a sense of uniqueness, like the fruit company being the fruit company, and Google being Google
I've been a huawei user for the last 5 years. It's TIRING to update apps manually from apk websites; life without Google is possible but so annoying. I don't recommend Huawei to anybody, expecially for gaming
@@real_rsaNoob13It's not the same feeling as a phone with factory Google Services, over that you will get worse performance in games. Yeah, it's close to having the factory Google Services but it's still missing something
Americans 😂 Do you know that a part from Smart phones EU companies still makes business with Huawei unlike in the US? And this follows the same organisation as Android. OpenHarmony is the base Open Source OS and HarmonyOS contains some closed source apps and services by Huawei. Right now it is still a domestic launch but they are preparing for International launch (EU and Asia) by 2025
@@afuyan Why is India being brought into this conversation? Just because I’m from India doesn’t make that a valid comeback. It’s widely recognized that technology from China faces trust issues globally, and that’s the real point here. Whether India is developed or developing isn’t relevant to this discussion.”
I am not American I am not American, but I still wouldn’t trust a mobile OS from China. Let the EU do what it wants; it’s already a satellite state of the US, and if it chooses to become one for China now, so be it. I also have my doubts about the US and wish my country had its own OS, but I would still never trust China over the US.
Why does Xiaomi keeps going thrown under the bar?....You mentioned it....but you didn't even show any thing about it despite them for me being the most professional android operating system par with Samsung...tech reviewers keep underrating this phone
Huawei hasn’t done anything. We have to see before we can take it for granted. This company once said that they developed a new OS from the ground up and it just ended up being Android but without any reference to Android. They also claimed they developed a 7nm chip that ended up being like a 14nm chip, so I wouldn’t take anything they say for granted
You don't. Their 7nm chip has already been analysed indepth and confirmed it is, by TechInsight , an authoritative information and analysis platform for the semiconductor industry, based in Ottawa Canada. You can also wait for their Mate 70 series to be released in November, to see what's inside.
The latest version of HarmonyOS NEXT has completely dropped android kernel. It was a transitioning period for app developers to port their app to non-android environment.
ive done a deep dive into harmony os, its not an android competitor. its legitimately just an inferior version of android with a bunch of functionality removed. from what i been reading into, harmony OS is an absolute joke. its still just basic android, with a shiny new skin and almost everything usefull stripped out of it. meaning you cant even install 3rd party apps, as they remove the apk installing functionality. only thing you can install is what they provide on there very limited store, and thats going to be even more limited considering that there removing the play store and everything to do with google. idk why people are so hype for this. its not what you think it is.
True, what they call it Censorship is considered to Spying for others.. reading and even modifing the content of your things is not acceptable outside China..
@@FusionHyperion AOSP is entirely open-source and free of Google services. It's different from the Android flavors shipped in smartphones from manufacturers. Also, you can disable and remove the trackers on most Android smartphones without loss of functionality.
Looks at these westerners. They can’t even get the abbreviation right. Looks like Americans are not born with much brain cells. They follow the same western narrative.
C'est déjà le cas, une fois que son marché intérieur aura opté pour ce système, les constructeurs comme xiaomi, honor, oppo, vivo, oneplus qui représentent aumoins 70% de fabricants mondiaux mais qui sont chinois, proposeront aussi leurs systèmes sur Openharmony de Huawei et les sanctions américaines vont pleuvoir comme un torrent sur ces entreprises et ça sera le début de la fin du monopole USA
Huawei is most likely pursuing the Apple strategy of having a locked OS. And I bet they will succeed because they are collaborating with Shenzhen local government to build apps that are native to the OS. They only need to invest billions (which they have) to create apps that are essential to the normal functioning of the phone. As time goes on, more developers will get on their bus.
@@betterlife7609 then i see a problems around the world stealing everything everywhere while US tech like Meta, X, Google protecting us from these evils (Specially Meta and Google)
HarmonyOS' limited amount of apps compared to Android or iOS poses a challenge, but most normal people (i.e. non-tech nerds) don't even understand what an operating system is. They wouldn't notice if an app on their phone is native, sideloaded, emulated, a web app, etc. Huawei can just make it look like everything on their store is an app, but quietly plug the gaps with emulation or web apps.
@@phrmko Exactly. Windows Phone had the same problem. If Microsoft had that problem Huawei definitely will. My former bank in the UK didn't even have Google Pay support until 2020, only Apple Pay. And most banks still have no Samsung Pay support. Huawei won't get banking apps outside of China if they expand to Europe.
*"Their technology is like four generations behind" ...like WTH are you smoking their speed is like last year's SnapDragon by AnTuTu using technics like software and hardware optimization ...This is the exact reason I stopped watching this channel*
2:30 Huawei is one of the biggest phone brands here in South Africa, and southern Africa is projected to have about 1 billion people by 2050 so in the long run Huawei will really become a global power house I'm sure
If you think having South Africa as region is going propel Huawei to global power house, then you're clueless about economics. It's not about how many people a region has, it is about the overall purchasing power of that region. Even with 1 Billion people, it means nothing if majority of those people are living in poverty. Look at India. They are the most populous country in the WORLD. But yet, capturing the Indian market means very little to a business because majority of that country is living in poverty.
0:41 "And it doesn't run Android apps either, developers will need to build Harmony OS apps on their platform" sorry bud but that's most definitely not going to be an Android competitor..... ESPECIALLY when Android is open source and who knows what spyware is in this Chinese shit...... Big NO
They provide a project converter which converts your android project files and source codes to Harmony OS code. It may not be 100% accurate and need some manual changes to the code but at least 90% of the jobs have been done automatically.
I had heard that Qualcomm (QCOM) was ditching ARM (ARM) and making their newest chips using their own architecture. If that's true, then it looks like Qualcomm will do better without ARM, and ARM is just mad and saying "You can't quit because I'm going to fire you!" Wait a minute! Are there actually companies in this world still using floppy disks? I remember them, faintly in the distant past. I think I last used floppy disks back when I was in my 20's which was back in the Victorian Era. I mean, we haven't even used CDs in computers in the past decade. Oh, wait, I work at USPS and the computers there are very outdated.
I had 2 pixel 7s. Pixels overheat a lot. First one overheated so much that the batter got swollen, I got a replacement as it was under warranty same with the replacement. I bought a s24 it's much better. Pixels never again
i believe it when i see it. every huawei media preview has really cool features and look amazing but then the product comes to market and its full of issues and falls apart after a year .
Using the P40 Pro + and the Pura 70 ultra in EU and it has been a great experience so far especially with the Pura 70U. Will wait NEXT to come to my phone but I'll probably wait or keep EMUI for bank apps
@@kxhu looks like you don't get it: solving the same problem usually resulting the same solution. imagine someone create document editor because doesn't want to be the same as others, the text is from top to bottom instead of left to right or right to left.
I'd like to see how HarmonyOS would look different in terms of software design and UI. People won't care what OS your phone is running, they'll just say it's Android because it still looks Android.
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1:24 How can you mention Huawei and still after months not even mention Mate XT 3 Ultimate?
But OpenHarmony, has huge potential and there is eruopean companies developing for that, you can investigate it if you want very interesting stuff happening!
BTW even MKBHD showed the Huawei Mate XT 3.
This is the same as Germany criticizing China for its cars but omitting that Israel is committing genocide.
*You meant IOS Competitor*
*"Their technology is like four generations behind" ...like WTH are you smoking their speed is like last year's SnapDragon by AnTuTu using technics like software and hardware optimization ...This is the exact reason I stopped watching this channel*
@TheFridayCheckout please fix the chapters. Thank you!
0:22 Huawei harmony OS
2:33 Google tensor changes
3:47 Qualcomm's big week
5:57 Release monitor
7:40 Brief
thanks man
thanks buddy, you deserve a medal
@@apidas bro thought this is reddit😂do you mean a heart?
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Honestly, I'm surprised Samsung hasn't created their own OS, given how big and popular they are among Android phones.
They have Tizen OS
@@marflage that OS is for samsung TVs
@@nathonix7072Samsung tried Tizen for phones ages ago, but it never took off.
@@nathonix7072they had a version running on phones in Russia long ago.
they had ....
I'd love to get Huawei's OS in central Europe. As a developer, I rage quit Android just a few weeks ago, after years of work put into it, switched to iOS 18, but there's paywalls and lockdowns everywhere, "get a macbook, get a developer subscription, enroll/subscribe/pay/etc, sell your soul, and MAYBE we'll let you develop something". I just want to develop cool stuff for myself. If Huawei has a better dev experience, I'm willing to buy and ship it from China, and even learn Chinese.
Good luck with that lol
Linux mobile app development is also an option!
Why did you rage quit?
its not worth learning chinese over a phone os
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Maths : Find X
Oppo : Find X8
X=8
Student: X = 10. So, take 10+8, you get 18 or XVIII.
@@ykd0011 Snapdragon: 8 Elite / X Elite
Hence proved X=8
let ∑(xi) from i= 1 to (n∈Z+) = [n(n+1)(2n+1)] / 6. *Find x8*
Oppo / 8 = FInd * X
Huawei, back in the days with no ban, was the best phone manufacturer for me. I still have a functioning P9 and a P20 pro, no service involved, no battery swaped, no screen replacement. In his prime P20 pro had one of the best battery usage (in the same time being one of the thinest phone on the market) , one of the best camera , best and smoothest android interface of the world. Too bad gready americans imposed the ban on them, otherwise Huawei would have been the best in the world these days.
it still is :) used p30 pro, p50 pro, p60 pro now
Unfortunately it's a spy company. I prefer Xiaomi but it's also now a spyware .
Huawei is overpriced.
Xiaomi is best. And not banned
I'm still using it as a backup phone
@@jameschalkwig787 Android is not banned on Huaweis, they still use android in Europe and you can install GMS services through microG project :) google it
Chinese apps and OS are total disaster.
Google is a extremely unserious company in terms of hardware.
Their focus is not on the video games but AI and for that they don't need most performant chips. Their prefer more to have control over their chips than having highest benchmark scores. Also their Pixel phones with Tensor chips provide highest security on Android OS.
Hello, pixel 4a 5g user here. Phone has serious frame drop issues, hiccups and is not smooth in various areas. My father has an iPhone 11, which is half a year older in use and the release of the phone was about a year earlier. The smoothness is just insane. In fact, it is smoother than newer a series pixels.
We pixel users should stop giving Google a pass.
Btw, instead of saying "our new phone will get 7 years of updates", they should have said our seven year old phone will also get the latest update.
@@El.Duder-ino Dude. Give it a rest.
@@El.Duder-inoI stopped caring about games when my Pixel 6 (more powerful than my older OP7) demonstrated an inability to play anything because of incredible overheating and absurd thermal throttling. It still sometimes destroys itself because it randomly gets too hot.
I have access to 2 Pixel 6, 4 Pixel 6a, 2 Pixel 7a and a Pixel 8 Pro. They all share the randomly overheating problem. It's a Google cannot design phones that cool properly problem together with a Samsung Foundries sucks ass.
@@91Canjokyou mean all you 5 pixel users in the whole world 🌏?
Huawei's making a comeback in Malaysia, in terms of global presence for their phone business
Im Malaysian , im craving for Pura 70 series hahahah. But the money tho. But nvm , im still using old Huawei Phone
@@anpanmlbb I purchased two unwrapped Huawei Mate 60 Pro China Edition in Thailand and the price was ridiculously high compared to domestic China
ok wumao
But all their chip are still using the 7nm architecture from 2022 while the west have leaped two full generation to 2nm. They come out with cool features and all but their performance is kind of capped at this point at 2022 level.
@@Drifter18903 try check Harmony OS's device optimization. Look at video comparison between Huawei Mate 60 pro vs ip 16 pro max. Even with chip 7nm , they are inevitable .
Huawei is making a big comeback here in South Africa 🇿🇦
I hope that you are not just saying it. I have a Huawei nova 9 and some of the apps that I want to use completely sucks, like the Jlab app. Or where APKPure has taken away the ability to listen to the bible on the bible app but the play button is still there.
Once upon a time in south Africa,, Huawei was a number 1 brand in south Africa,,
Obviously many people don't know Huawei's HarmonyOS Next (Harmony OS 5) is based off OpenHarmony OS, which is donated by Huawei to open source society.
Interesting
And many brands can sell HarmonyOS devices soon
@@testerbot7439 HarmonyOS-equipped appliances are already on sale in China, and as for mobile phones, only Huawei's own units for the time being
wow cool, does that mean its a linux system and that you can use the open source version of that on the huawei devices by any chance??
@michatroschka this isn't linux kernel, HUAWEI made their own kernel called microkernel
The only way for Harmony OS to work is for Oppo, Xiaomi etc. to be forced to use Harmony OS. Initially in China, later wordwide. But I am not sure they would want, Huawei is their direct competitor.
I thought all Chinese 🇨🇳 brands were pooling together to create a unified OS? Those were the headlines last year or earlier
@@alice_agogothere were proposals made for a china wide OS but it didn't go beyond that
Don’t worry, as long as Huawei's HarmonyOS maintains its technological edge and iOS and Android don’t redesign their architectures in the short term, When HarmonyOS demonstrates its advantages in the era of the Internet of Everything, more developers will naturally switch to HarmonyOS in the future. For now, focusing on the Chinese market is enough.
It's matter of time, the US is going to keep imposing embargo against China to try to stop their development, and China has enough people living there to use their own OS.
@@龙腾洞观 What is that technological edge? We haven't seen anything until now and from what they showed, it is nothing the others don't already have.
Tensor g5 is a big let down. Wtf is Google thinking
man it’s so annoying, i really want to move back to android but i don’t like OneUI so google is my only option, but they keep doing this.
@@oluwatayo.x I'm rocking a Pixel 8a(had a 6a before giving it to a family member who still uses it), & for daily usage the Tensor series processors are honestly not that noticeable in a performance hit unless you're outside all day in the heat taking lots of photos with full screen brightness, and it gets hot, my biggest gripe is the lack of an SD card, as I would love to load my phone up with my music collection, and games for emulation when I have time to kill traveling, but having a close to near stock Android UI, and years of updates does make it worth the trade offs though vs. other phones I've owned from companies like Motorola, and Nokia(HDM) in the past at similar price points.
@@oluwatayo.xDo you really need the most powerful chip in your phone though? if it integrates well with Android And is really power efficient, I think that's what most people they get a pixel want
I think most people including me don't really care what UI, as long as I can use it without any hard to use feature, I'm fine.
Tech Odyssey already thinking of a way to justify Google's decision to use annoyingly underpowered chips.😂
Got the Beta of HarmonyOS Next (5) on my Mate 60 Pro and can confirm way more fluid system, battery life and camera performance.
This OS is a true uograde in many ways. Just the app support for the west is lacking completely for now
What web browser they use? Can you check useragent (also engine)?
I wonder if Oniro project is working or not. Since it's shares the OpenHarmony codes, it supposedly to kind of work with HarmonyOS.
Western countries that have resisted strong-arming by the US to ban Huawei will initially find themselves unable or unwilling to use Chinese apps in the Huawei ecosystem. However, Harmony OS will receive widespread adoption in China. Once that happens, app makers from the West will clamor to get in on the big, new market. It'll be a new gold rush. They'll port their apps to sell to this market.
I saw some sort of AI assistant in the video. What's that about?
I hope HarmonyOS becomes IoT OS, at least for industrial application. If it just mimics what Android is, then not much hope for future. Imagine we can connect cars, house, phone... into one unique ecosystem...
The verge of death? Are you serious? You underestimate the Huawei size. They're not just a smartphone manufacturer. A completely different level compared to Nokia, Ericsson or even Apple. Huawei owns networking equipment manufacturing, they make solutions on mining infrastructure, ship docking infrastructure, forestry infrastructure, autodriving car software and hardware, wearable, IoTs, smarthomes, even few medical softwares, and more. I will not surprised a one day, unexpectedly, just randomly out of nowhere Huawei just make a chip making branch directly competing with SMIC or even TSMC. Huawei is too big, even that famous China's government can't fully contain them. No one can expect their move. Yesterday they make a mobile cellular phone's infrastructure and today they're in an automobil industry and cargo shipping industry, you'll be blown away if suddenly tomorrow you just woke up, reading the tech news and out of nowhere Huawei make their own nuclear reactor on the moon.
They're Samsung of China with how many industries they got their hands in, I wish Nokia+Microsoft never gave up on their smartphones and windows phone or symbian/meego that was ahead of time..
They are nothing in phone devices. They stay relevant because CCP forces government employees and other under its influence to buy their crap. Don't get me wrong, Chinese individuals and small companies are making exceptional innovative products, but not CCP's shell companies.
Death from the smartphone market, and possibly high-end retail electronics as whole. Much like how IBM is still very much around, but consumers aren’t buying IBM branded gadgets anymore.
@@Raderade1-pt3om That's what focusing on short term ROI makes you do and why the US is condemned to fall to China
Huawei is owned by the CCP
In fact, Harmony OS has an open source system called Open Harmony, which all developers can develop on their own, just like the relationship between AOSP and Android.
I agree with the NFL player. Even if I was disposed to pay exorbitant prices to get the stream (which also has ads btw), it would be much easier and faster to get a pirated version which could also be higher quality
that e-ink after fold made me think, "Why don't Samsung put e-ink display on the front while using AMOLED on the big screen?"
I can see that it is a big way to increase its battery life and taking advantage of e-ink under the sun.
Honestly, a tri-fold e-ink display would be pretty awesome. You can fit a full paper-size display in your pocket for comfortable reading.
e-ink is slow, it physically flip the flat dot from one side (black) to another (white). general user will never buy e-ink phone.
@@YSKWatch I don't think people would buy eink for a primary phone, but it could be good as a pocket tablet.
that would be cool but the problem is foldables are already so niche. imagine how much further niche it would be... You would be ordering such a small amount of parts. That's the problem. you would have very little benefit of economies of scale because it's not like you're going to be able to actively use the front e ink screens for much else. But maybe someday foldable's ever command a higher percentage of the market share
Huawei releasing an entire os is a very bold move against Google and Android, but having to use another langage for the apps and not use the Linux kernel maybe goes a little bit too far.
At least take the linux kernel and modify it to suite your needs. I've got no idea why they thought it would be cool for developers to re-program their app just for them. Well, it might work, but personally I think it'll be hard to push many developers into doing that.
most mobile app are based on java, flutter, swift, or web based. as long the source code can be compiled to the new OS (except swift probably), that would be fine.
Seeing how the linux foundation is banning developers left and right for geopolitical reasons lately
I'd say the made the right choice
@@YSKWatchCan't these 🧠 ⚰️ devs program on more efficient.C or event C ++?
@@YSKWatch those apps either rely on android apis or only expect android and ios apis, which means that devs would have to put in serious work into supporting this niche os that is not available outside of china
Arm's TCS has better design and configuration than what Google does for their in-house chips.
Is Arm TCS bad? Their copy and paste CPUs and GPUs seem very popular
@@lukej7856Used to be, the GPUs are still kinda mediocre. The CPUs have gotten very good. The point is, why would Google bother developing their own CPU cores when they could license better cores from ARM for less money than developing their own (that they still have to pay a license to ARM for).
1:48, iOS and Android have millions of native apps, but definitely not billions!!
Tbh, I wouldn't be surprised
As Gemini said: The number of app downloads or installs can be in the billions, but the actual number of unique apps available is significantly lower.
Yh like billions is crazy lol and also even if that was the case ,most apps are not apps that people download anyway ,there are so many shit apps that people don’t actually download,the number of apps that people download are probably not even a million.
I look it up and the one that ever got released in playstore is around 10m. But because not all apps is on playstore, and its impossible to count the one that not on there. I'll say it might be around 11m to 15m(take this with grain of salt) unique functional apps ever made out there.
And 99% of those apps are genuinely trash 😂
Laguna is an interesting codename... They used to use Final Fantasy characters for Chromebook hardware.
Laguna is also a place.
@Klatchan Google knows nothing about video games that's why they screwed up Stadia. Should have made a gaming PC or gaming laptop with chromebook hardware or a handheld console with the tensor chips from the pixel phones inside
@@cryptocsguy9282that makes no sense.
@bandito241 what makes no sense ?
how laguna compared to cortana?
They made a OS from scratch and still chose to copy Apple's design language 🤦
In order to make new users get started better
Man i am a long term huawei user and even when its under sanction, and i can confirm that huawei is capable of this promises
Players not being able to directly access their own records games is wild
Most people don't really need a lot of apps. What is more critical is to have a few good useful apps rather than millions or billions of apps which most people won't install on their phones anyway.
Not everyone has the same use cases. Not everyone would be happy with less but better apps.
A lot of people use many niche apps.
Most apps are country based on android and IOS like India may have apps that are meant for the country that other countries can't access that doesn't Mean the app is not useful, also school apps and the rest harmony os is far far behind and I don't like the naming either
@@JCSY1 Not the point. Not everyone in every country uses the same apps. That's why you need a bigger selection of apps. Frankly speaking nobody cares about what apps you use, they care about the apps THEY use. If what you said was true Windows phone wouldn't have flopped. But it did
This is a BS take. Nobody needs that many apps, just like 10 or 20. But only about 5 of those 10 or 20 are mostly the same across all users, the other 5 or 15 are totally different for everybody.
For example, I need D&D Beyond to play D&D with friends and it just got borked on my Huawei tablet. I still have it on my Google Pixel, and the site works fine from my PCs both on my Windows desktop and on my Linux laptop, but I do really need it on the tablet because it's the most convenient way of using it while at the table.
Do I need 1 billion apps? No. Do I need some pretty specific apps? Yes. Does anybody need 1 billion apps? No. Does the average user need some overly specific niche app? Yes.
Not to mention Banks, Public Administration, Museums, Universities all require apps nowadays, and while some of them might add a Huawei version of the app I don't see all of them do it. Are you going to choose your bank based on which OS they support or are you going to choose which phone you don't get based on which OS your fundamental unavoidable application supports?
The rush to develop new chips in smartphones is completely useless. Huawei just show us that.
If HarmonyOS is open source like Android, I would love to see what community versions could come about similar to custom Android ROMs like Lineage
Good luck with it being open source. They can't even make their AOSP-Harmony open source.
They not going to open source it
@@elivelive HarmonyOS is based on OpenHarmony that is open source
HarmonyOS 5 (Next) = OpenHarmoney (open source) with Harmony core (use to replace Linux core ) + HMS
@@Xi_Pooh_Shill Your ignorance seems has no limit. Never heard about OpenHarmony project in China and Oniro project in EU? They're shares HarmonyOS codes. Many vendors already makes their own OpenHarmony distros.
Hey just a heads up! The description is a mess..
I don't know if they've edited it, but it's still a mess. I don't know why they don't use periods or semicolons.
They've done their operating system, they are using their chips, they are achieving performance on that to match today's google and ios... and we still question them.... They'll blow others out of the water very soon... WIth cars, and hardware...and the rest...
Yeah, the CCP-controlled industries would blow everyone else out of the water... when their ships explode.
Harmony os success is proof that microsoft should've kept trying with windows phone
I think people tend to forget that Windows phone died mostly because Microsoft didn't push for it hard enough. They like to pretend that Microsoft literally did everything but still failed ( as a point of reference, Microsoft spent less than 15 billion dollars on Windows phone. While they spent 75 billion to buy Activision).
I would be able really interested to know why they didn't have faith in their own product.
@@amirmohamad2270microsoft was competing with apple and Google and the US operational costs are just expensive. Harmony is not facing as stiff competition and cost in China are cheap
MS had their own design language. HMOS looks exactly like android
@@dand337 *based in openharmony
Harmony os is the proof that you need to copy paste Android os to be successful 😆✅
0:45 the language is named "Cangjie"
nope, harmony next is still using arkts (a modified version of Typescript) as its main application layer developing language, Cangjie language is another story, it would be used to replace C++ in framework layer development, it's still in developing, and it still need at least two years to work.
you are right. I misheard the "arkts" as "argts" and searched for a thing that's doesn't exists. I also heard "native" what made me think "Android NDK" and that Cangjie is C++ replacement.
@@mtxn You are welcome, I've developed applications for Harmony next since sept of 2023, under the beta testing program, started from api9 then api11 and now api12, currently arkts and arkui framework has been quite workable, enough for developing any kind of applications at least, only the native part still has many problem. And I join cangjie inner testing program in two monthes ago, but honestly it is still not stable, need at least two years I guess.Currently, the arkui framework is still programmed by C++, and huawei is planning to push community developers to remake it by cangjie.
Google's flagships does not worth the price tags they shall be $500-800 phones
Should be lower like $300
Good grammar 😂😂😂
@@sixthousandblankets thanks
Kinda reminds me of all the other promising competitors that eventually lost to Apple and google. Blackberry 10, Palm OS, Windows Mobile etc..
the old loosing to the new.
First the US bans Chinese companies in using Android with Google Play Services forcing them to create their own OS and now Russian Linux maintainers were removed. Hopefully we can get an alternative desktop OS that is free from all the political BS.
It's only going to get worse especially with AI. China didn't even want to be a part of the the treaty meeting about AI.
Fair man this is all bullshit,
This is so funny, I was reading the floppy disk story on my phone as you started talking about it
4:58 wtf was that
This smartphone I am watching on right now, is a 4 year old Huawei P30 Lite. I cannot wait for Harmony OS to come to my device. 😊
They being like apple now, good 4 them to hv their own closed source system.
Nothing can beat my weekly The Friday checkout headlines.
I'm genuinely curious about HarmonyOS Next on Notebook and Desktop computers and see how they can be used for real productivity.
you missed that harmonyOS appears to be based on openHarmony, which is actually open source
But I cannot install it on my Laptop.
Harmony is here to stay ❤❤nothing can ever stop huawei not even the USA
I heard many people saying nokia tried it, but they failed.
What you guys need to understand is that the country behind huawei is different from the country behind nokia, and you can never compare China to Finland,
China is called the Asian tiger, the sleeping dragon has finally awakened, it's just a matter of time and you will see harmony Os crush both android and IOS. There's nothing the Chinese can't do. ❤❤
Made In China. LOL😂 No one trust made by China Temu😂
I remember when the initial US sanctions basically removed Huawei's ability to use good services, i genuinely thought they were dead and any chance at a Huawei OS was a silly pipedream.
And now here we are! Insane! Dont think id actually get one of theor devices at least for a few years, but its super impressive.
It's always funny to me that people talk about google leaks on a google platform lol
Good, maybe Google will the videos and change their ways...or not.
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7:32 I actually owned one of these ring watches maybe 20 years ago. I forget if Timex made it, but I legitimately liked it lol. Surprised it hasn't shrunk down at all though... that one looks exactly like what I had, except mine was gold.
I’m rooting for Huawei. Their devices are really good and If I was in China I’d definitely have one of their phones instead of an iPhone. I have one of their tablet and is well put together.
No, Huawei phones are more restrictive than iOS now and we all switch away for the other privacy invading stuff.
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@larsradtke4097 Most Huawei users who switched did so due to lack of GPS and an uncertainty about the company's future in the early days of the ban. Very little to do with "privacy invading stuff" .
hate to give the bad news, its not an android competitor. its legitimately just an inferior version of android with a bunch of functionality removed. from what i been reading into, harmony OS is an absolute joke. its still just basic android, with a shiny new skin and almost everything stripped out of it. meaning you cant even install 3rd party apps, as they remove the apk installing functionality. only thing you can install is what they provide on there very limited store, and thats going to be even more limited considering that there removing the play store and everything to do with google. idk why people are so hype for this. its not what you think it is.
@@birkneo the game has just begun, pls donot worry.
Okay, but unless other manufacturers adapts HarmonyOS or started creating their own OSes, that is when we call it a real threat to Android. But as for now, only Huawei uses HarmonyOS. If every manufacturers start to create their own OSes, that will be a real headache to developers and most probably they will just stick with developing apps for Android and iOS.
For your note, west is not "the world" but a part of the world.
I hope one day India will also move away from western tech for domestic ones 🇮🇳
3:36 That chip has the IMG BXM-8-256 GPU, not the DXT-48-1536.
I can't be the only one who is bewildered by all the chat of chips.
Slow news day
Chips 🍟 are interesting but I'm biased judging by my profile picture 😂😂😂
TSMC's latest node is not longer a proper node shrink, don't forget. 3n is not nanometer anymore - Huawei doesn't need newer than 2 generations because software optimizations will yield greater benefit than tinier hardware can.
Given how toxic play store and App Store have become to the developers, I welcome these new overlords. Hopefully these guys will be benevolent.
hate to give the bad news, its not an android competitor. its legitimately just an inferior version of android with a bunch of functionality removed. from what i been reading into, harmony OS is an absolute joke. its still just basic android, with a shiny new skin and almost everything stripped out of it. meaning you cant even install 3rd party apps, as they remove the apk installing functionality. only thing you can install is what they provide on there very limited store, and thats going to be even more limited considering that there removing the play store and everything to do with google. idk why people are so hype for this. its not what you think it is.
@@birkneo well it's a China company so I don't feel like defending them. You win.
@@birkneo ummmm, openharmony?
Benevolent??? From a company under the iron-fisted control of the CCP???? Doubtful.
@@birkneoi own huawei papermatte, and everything you said here is just straight up false.
You can download apks and the system is actually fluid and fast, the tablets is just 300$ with the keyboard and pen and it is a straight competitor to my ipad (which is around 1500$ with keyboard and pen)
I actually did a survey for the Snapdragon naming scheme which had me rate names like Max, Elite or Pro.
Companies really don't know what they're doing.
Hey, just a hands up. There's a weird chime noise in the background of this video. You've messed something up with the audio. Try listening on some high quality headphones, it's mainly in the left ear. It's not present in any other vids.
I strongly doubt that Arm will be granted an injunction against Qualcomm selling their chips.
I can't really see Huawei pulling this off, except maybe within China. The lack of support for APK files is a major dealbreaker, and I have serious doubts about their ability to keep up with maintaining an OS like this, if at all.
Watch it will be released, be buggy and have no apps.
That's why they are not pushing the phone outside china. Gaining Chinese market is enough for Huawei to stay top
I wonder how other chinese phone companies react to this ..@@ultrasrifat1495
There are many countries sanctioned by the US who share the same ambitions with China, to be free of any US-controlled software and hardware, like Iran, Syria and others. I think those countries will be big market for HarmonyOS Next.
well huawei said 99.9% of consumer apps for daily needs in china are already developed. and more apps are on the way. i feel like its gonna take like two years for it to release in global market. they are looking to gain more recognition outside china in the meantime. the partially android version of harmony os has already reached 1 billion devices so i think they can pull it off
@@leonard8766 I reckon that it won’t. Sure, Android and iOS have long dominated the market, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t room for a third operating system. Harmony OS is also considered as a tool that represents technological power in politics, and to show the world how capable China really is. Not to mention China has the largest economy in the world. Huawei, a Chinese-based company will absolutely dominate this market, and will definitely continue expand to overseas.
Huawei really did a good job. I hope in the future they'll become a legit 3rd player in the os world breaking the Androis ios duopoly.
It is predicted that European and American countries will not use Huawei phones in the future, but more and more people in BRICS countries will use Huawei phones. The biggest obstacle for Huawei to become a super giant is time.
C'mon Huawei y'all need to break the Android-iOS software duopoly.
I'm really excited about Harmony OS Next. Finally, we have a competitor to Android and iOS. Let's hope it doesn't flop like Nokia Lumia.
It will. Nobody developed for WP, because Android and iOS had bigger market. Now imagine all these people suddenly developing for an OS that has market only in china xd
@@xx_peace_xx5300 I reckon that it won’t flop. Sure, Android and iOS have long dominated the market, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t room for a third operating system. Harmony OS is also considered as a tool that represents technological power in politics, and to show the world how capable China really is. Not to mention China has the largest economy in the world. Huawei, a Chinese-based company will absolutely dominate this market, and will definitely continue expand to overseas
@@enryhen6859There is no room for an OS that is only available in China. That only happens if the Chinese government forces the Chinese to use apps only available on Harmony OS
It won't flop. They have around 900 millions active users right now. No sane developers in China will ignore those huge chunk of users by any means.
Hoyoverse already confirmed that Genshin Impact will be available natively on Harmony Nxt already...
@enryhen6859 why are you posting this everywhere?
google ditching samsung fabs is one of the best decisions they have made in a while
2:22 What a massive opportunity not to be like a certain fruit company with some of the knock off features
Great joke I though the fruit company was the innovator
-every apple fan ever😂
What I meant was, them copying the certain fruit company. Creating a sense of uniqueness, like the fruit company being the fruit company, and Google being Google
looks like utter shite, the war will always be android vs ios
I've been a huawei user for the last 5 years. It's TIRING to update apps manually from apk websites; life without Google is possible but so annoying. I don't recommend Huawei to anybody, expecially for gaming
Which Huawei, the ones that run Emui 14.2 can have MicroG(GMS) installed
@@real_rsaNoob13It's not the same feeling as a phone with factory Google Services, over that you will get worse performance in games. Yeah, it's close to having the factory Google Services but it's still missing something
Not until most of the well-known professional software (MatLab, Mathematica, Solid Work, etc.) can run on a Harmony OS based Huawei computer.
this has more problem as countries outside china would not trust it even more
Americans 😂 Do you know that a part from Smart phones EU companies still makes business with Huawei unlike in the US? And this follows the same organisation as Android. OpenHarmony is the base Open Source OS and HarmonyOS contains some closed source apps and services by Huawei. Right now it is still a domestic launch but they are preparing for International launch (EU and Asia) by 2025
What a proper smartphone and mobile OS India have been made?
@@afuyan Why is India being brought into this conversation? Just because I’m from India doesn’t make that a valid comeback. It’s widely recognized that technology from China faces trust issues globally, and that’s the real point here. Whether India is developed or developing isn’t relevant to this discussion.”
I am not American I am not American, but I still wouldn’t trust a mobile OS from China. Let the EU do what it wants; it’s already a satellite state of the US, and if it chooses to become one for China now, so be it. I also have my doubts about the US and wish my country had its own OS, but I would still never trust China over the US.
@@afuyan China has not either, the Harmony OS is a clone of a Android.
Why does Xiaomi keeps going thrown under the bar?....You mentioned it....but you didn't even show any thing about it despite them for me being the most professional android operating system par with Samsung...tech reviewers keep underrating this phone
Huawei hasn’t done anything. We have to see before we can take it for granted.
This company once said that they developed a new OS from the ground up and it just ended up being Android but without any reference to Android.
They also claimed they developed a 7nm chip that ended up being like a 14nm chip, so I wouldn’t take anything they say for granted
You don't. Their 7nm chip has already been analysed indepth and confirmed it is, by TechInsight , an authoritative information and analysis platform for the semiconductor industry, based in Ottawa Canada. You can also wait for their Mate 70 series to be released in November, to see what's inside.
The latest version of HarmonyOS NEXT has completely dropped android kernel. It was a transitioning period for app developers to port their app to non-android environment.
I even belived you untill your 7 nm chip bs argument that has been confirmed. Good try Jimmy but try better next time.
ive done a deep dive into harmony os, its not an android competitor. its legitimately just an inferior version of android with a bunch of functionality removed. from what i been reading into, harmony OS is an absolute joke. its still just basic android, with a shiny new skin and almost everything usefull stripped out of it. meaning you cant even install 3rd party apps, as they remove the apk installing functionality. only thing you can install is what they provide on there very limited store, and thats going to be even more limited considering that there removing the play store and everything to do with google. idk why people are so hype for this. its not what you think it is.
@@birkneois copy and pasting the same thing all over the comments nesesarry? It does make you look like you're really butthurt about this news.
I hope it can arrange photos in folders. Android just can't arrange the photos
It would only be a competition if it was developed by anyone, not from china.
True, what they call it Censorship is considered to Spying for others.. reading and even modifing the content of your things is not acceptable outside China..
They are not trying to complete in west , instead trying to capture they domestic market
What do you even mean
They are not competing with the west bro😂
There are a lot of countries outside US dummy
They basically made iOS without their problem
Another govt backdoored OS... Yeah I'll pass.
I'll stick to AOSP and Linux thank you.
You know aosp is still implementing Google trackers right ?
@@FusionHyperion there are forks... like graphene os...
@@FusionHyperion AOSP is entirely open-source and free of Google services. It's different from the Android flavors shipped in smartphones from manufacturers. Also, you can disable and remove the trackers on most Android smartphones without loss of functionality.
Sure, then use OpenHarmony, which is likely open source in the future if isn’t already
tbh the harmonyos next kernel is probably open source
Imagine the privacy nightmare that Huawei OS would represent.
Yes, an OS with a CCP backdoor must be better that Google's og Apple's...
better than a cia backdoor if you don't live in china
depend on which side you prefer to have your data.
Looks at these westerners. They can’t even get the abbreviation right. Looks like Americans are not born with much brain cells. They follow the same western narrative.
What can CCP do with your data? And what can US do with your data? Think carefully, who's nearer to you, who can actually harm you with your data.
That ring watch was upside down.
US and China have all these giants and in the EU we have shit. We don't even have Only Fans anymore, they left with the UK.
EU is shit. We are falling and we will fall rly hard
@@b1onic98EU can't compete at all in anything.
when I learned CE, few good books are by European professor. after that no more IT related come from Europe.
I bought a year subscription to Nebula but I can't find enough content to watch like I can on RUclips, that is the biggest problem.
JT is ur biggest problem
@@agabaire What does that have to do with this.
My dream is someday Huawei make this opensource and it kills googles monopoly over AOSP that every other vendors migrating into HOSP
C'est déjà le cas, une fois que son marché intérieur aura opté pour ce système, les constructeurs comme xiaomi, honor, oppo, vivo, oneplus qui représentent aumoins 70% de fabricants mondiaux mais qui sont chinois, proposeront aussi leurs systèmes sur Openharmony de Huawei et les sanctions américaines vont pleuvoir comme un torrent sur ces entreprises et ça sera le début de la fin du monopole USA
Already the case
@@antimotivation10only a 🧠 ⚰️ person would buy 🇺🇲 brands Apple 🍎 Tesla Starbucks Google Microsoft Ford 🤮
Huawei is most likely pursuing the Apple strategy of having a locked OS. And I bet they will succeed because they are collaborating with Shenzhen local government to build apps that are native to the OS. They only need to invest billions (which they have) to create apps that are essential to the normal functioning of the phone. As time goes on, more developers will get on their bus.
@@betterlife7609 then i see a problems around the world stealing everything everywhere while US tech like Meta, X, Google protecting us from these evils (Specially Meta and Google)
We need more HUAWEI HarmonyOS news
HarmonyOS' limited amount of apps compared to Android or iOS poses a challenge, but most normal people (i.e. non-tech nerds) don't even understand what an operating system is. They wouldn't notice if an app on their phone is native, sideloaded, emulated, a web app, etc. Huawei can just make it look like everything on their store is an app, but quietly plug the gaps with emulation or web apps.
Banking apps is the barrier they will not jump over
@@phrmko they just need alipay and WeChat to work and most people in china won't even notice
@@phrmko Exactly. Windows Phone had the same problem. If Microsoft had that problem Huawei definitely will. My former bank in the UK didn't even have Google Pay support until 2020, only Apple Pay. And most banks still have no Samsung Pay support. Huawei won't get banking apps outside of China if they expand to Europe.
@@franklingoodwinaux usa et Europe. En asie, Amérique latine et Afrique ils auront les applications bancaires
@@franklingoodwin In the EU we use Curve, its run by the same company behind Samsung Pay but for huawei, dunno about the UK
Serious information, thanks mate for running down all the latest tech releases 🙏Keep up the good work!
Props to Huawei. Its hard to develop an os in 2024. I Still have low expectations but if anyone can and has the resources to do so its them
Developers: great another platform to support :)
Right now IOS and Android is unbeatable, im pretty sure no one is going to use that os😂
already have 900 million user.
@@YSKWatch basically thats China's population
@@fixme.96 sigh, the population is 1.4k million.
@@YSKWatch lmao 1.4 billion dummy
@@fixme.96 I know, but somehow my comment gone if I wrote b...
Nuvia was created exactly with this in mind.
To create a "design" and be resealed to a big manufacturer/vendor .
I am not sure who cannot see this.
The fact that you call the FTC's new regulations a law puts a lot more power in the hands of those telcos than you might want to.
I think they're aiming those OS to compliment on their 32bit Kirin devices which they're secretly releasing.
*"Their technology is like four generations behind" ...like WTH are you smoking their speed is like last year's SnapDragon by AnTuTu using technics like software and hardware optimization ...This is the exact reason I stopped watching this channel*
This guy is clearly a hater and propagandist, that's why i don't watch his videos.
2:30 Huawei is one of the biggest phone brands here in South Africa, and southern Africa is projected to have about 1 billion people by 2050 so in the long run Huawei will really become a global power house I'm sure
If you think having South Africa as region is going propel Huawei to global power house, then you're clueless about economics. It's not about how many people a region has, it is about the overall purchasing power of that region. Even with 1 Billion people, it means nothing if majority of those people are living in poverty. Look at India. They are the most populous country in the WORLD. But yet, capturing the Indian market means very little to a business because majority of that country is living in poverty.
0:41 "And it doesn't run Android apps either, developers will need to build Harmony OS apps on their platform" sorry bud but that's most definitely not going to be an Android competitor..... ESPECIALLY when Android is open source and who knows what spyware is in this Chinese shit...... Big NO
Harmony OS is based on OpenHarmony which is also an open source project, donated by Huawei.
They provide a project converter which converts your android project files and source codes to Harmony OS code. It may not be 100% accurate and need some manual changes to the code but at least 90% of the jobs have been done automatically.
I had heard that Qualcomm (QCOM) was ditching ARM (ARM) and making their newest chips using their own architecture. If that's true, then it looks like Qualcomm will do better without ARM, and ARM is just mad and saying "You can't quit because I'm going to fire you!"
Wait a minute! Are there actually companies in this world still using floppy disks? I remember them, faintly in the distant past. I think I last used floppy disks back when I was in my 20's which was back in the Victorian Era. I mean, we haven't even used CDs in computers in the past decade. Oh, wait, I work at USPS and the computers there are very outdated.
I had 2 pixel 7s. Pixels overheat a lot. First one overheated so much that the batter got swollen, I got a replacement as it was under warranty same with the replacement. I bought a s24 it's much better. Pixels never again
i believe it when i see it. every huawei media preview has really cool features and look amazing but then the product comes to market and its full of issues and falls apart after a year .
Using the P40 Pro + and the Pura 70 ultra in EU and it has been a great experience so far especially with the Pura 70U.
Will wait NEXT to come to my phone but I'll probably wait or keep EMUI for bank apps
Google needs to either use flagship chips or adjust their prices
China bots hard at work in the comments.
You sounds like CIA bot tho.
Your words are more of a bot. Try to write better in your own language than a bot.
more competition is always welcome, especially from a non-US company.
oh god they're copying xiaomi who copies apple..
What? It's in versa, Xiaomi always copying Huawei.
you are too simplistic. like saying this car must be copying that car because it have 4 wheels.
@@YSKWatch the new next's swipe down looks oddly similar to hyperos's which looks oddly similar to ios's
@@kxhu looks like you don't get it: solving the same problem usually resulting the same solution. imagine someone create document editor because doesn't want to be the same as others, the text is from top to bottom instead of left to right or right to left.
I'd like to see how HarmonyOS would look different in terms of software design and UI. People won't care what OS your phone is running, they'll just say it's Android because it still looks Android.
As a Chinese, live in Hong Kong SAR, i want to say that HarmonyOS are for mankind, it safe than other OS.