'You're old' and 'I'd sleep with you': Amanda Abbington on her 'toxic' Strictly ordeal with Giovanni
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- Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024
- Amanda Abbington has revealed her Strictly nightmare with Giovanni Pernice got so bad she was actually relieved when a cancer scare meant she could quit the show.
The BBC apologised to the actress last week after a five-month inquiry into bullying claims in the last series. Today, Amanda reveals her stint was “morbid and toxic".
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Its amazing how so many people think it is ok to disrespect someone with emotionally abusive comments and not forget the psychological abuse. Ignoring her experience and worse mocking and denying it has a psychological impact on a victim and you become part of that cycle by enabling and supporting that abuse. Ive been there I get her. Im so glad not to be void of empathy and understanding. I support Amanda 😊
@@jc-246 me too hun. I experience the lack of women defending 2 males in my life and I know how and why it happens. So much so I have a qualification in psychology and am a huge reader of this subject. Could literally write a book on why abuse thrives.
Both were in work environments...and very hard to prove. But prove them both I did!!
I recorded things secretly and it shut the lot of them up !!!
Don't make it public fodder then!!! She has money, it's called a lawyer!!!
@@ackley2803 idiotic comment
@ackley2803 Why not?.isn't that what we hope victims of abuse do.
I disagree we brush such behaviour under the carpet.
@helenatkinson7422 there seems to be a blindness about psychological and emotional abuse. I've experienced it full force and the psychological abuse was so much more harmful because you can interpret most of it but it's catastrophic and I think it's harmful seeing the lack of public support but worse the public attack on her as a victim is truly abhorrent and shamefully coming from an older generation who must not be educated enough or perhaps it is just mainly a bunch of narcissistic type personalities responded and enjoy the goading of a victim. It's disturbing and nothing short of toxic. It's one thing ignoring it and hoping it may all quiten down because no details came out such as footage etc BUT to personally attack and shame a person's experience is vile. I really feel for her and it's simply why we as a nation say nowt, put up whatever you want to call it. It's so sad but I can at least say I'm glad I do not have that lack of understanding or empathy for a person.
I wish you luck with your studies and career, and I hope you help many others suffering at the hands of abuse.
Why did the BBC not do something about it while it was happening?
Because....
The
BBC are renowned for being vile
They've employed more Peodoes then you could even imagine. they are corrupted
Cos its been the norm forever. I worked in tv and theatre all my life. Retired now. Just the way it is. Wrong but fact.
She is describing EXACTLY how a narcissist behaves. The ‘walking on eggshells’ i.e. she didn’t know how he was going to react from one minute to the next, the devaluing behaviour, the passive aggressive comments. He was getting away with it for a long time. She is telling the truth and I’m glad she spoke out. People don’t see what goes on behind closed doors. Even though there were people writing things down, they felt unable to write down EVERYTHING that he was saying in case they got into trouble, this is definitely believable. This ‘enabling behaviour’ happens far too often i.e. when employees working in an organisation feel powerless to say anything in case they lose their job or rock the boat.
Took the words right out of my mouth.. exactly sounds like a narcissist, they switch up their mood and treatment and then gaslight when you are confused with the personality change. He sounds truly vile.
I guess you never read her twitter.
@@smallperson7522 She is doing what all Narcissists do, turn the spotlight on someone else. Have you never heard of victim mentality? She has always done this, there may be a tiny element of truth in it all , there often is but she is using it for all she is worth.
@@smallperson7522 She knows all these things because this is exactly how SHE behaves.
@@smallperson7522 This is all an enormous stretch to prove your point. Everyone involved in a conspiracy, it doesn’t look believable
I feel like the truth is probably somewhere in the middle
A bully narcissist love it when people cry.
I just feel so desperately sorry for you. I’m so sorry- why don’t these people commenting realise you’re a real fucking person?!
Clash of personalities doesnt have to mean abuse.
Why are people ready to give nasty comments just cause giotto is good looking and friendly doesn't mean she's lying no wonder women don't say anything when there been abused because there been abused again and again on line shame on you people
He is narcissistic, he loves himself
And I do not get why women find him attractive 😅
No but the fact the bbc only upheld 6 of her 17 complaints and even then none of the really nasty and vile things she said he’d done, merely swearing and calling names!! That does mean shes lying whether you like it or not, you all said wait for the facts those are the facts she lied she lost
@@eleanorcook2342they still sacked him and still not revealed all the facts.
@@erictaylor2831 they didnt sack him he left big difference, and he left with the bbc giving a glowing reference to italian strictly come dancing which he’s doing now and where he could be with his family !!
Something doesn't sit right with her.
Her brain.
npd
Menopause, Im thinking. AND I have gone through it as have most of my friends. It does some crazy crap to some womens thinking. I think thats why she just doesn’t stop. Its been addressed. Time to stop…….
@@HeyokaAquarius1980
Y no
@@zoezwar9911.......just menopause makes you lot mental,.. ,...riiight😂😂
Johnny Depp is an actor, yet he was a victim of domestic violence. And many people didn’t believe him, the Sun and other newspapers labelled him as a ‘wife beater’ he lost film roles, Disney dropped him, and he lost two court cases, when in fact his wife at the time was the one who was physically and emotionally abusive to him, so badly that he lost a finger, had black eyes, and he had to flee from one room to another to get away from her rage. Depp didn’t give up, and I had the opportunity to watch his trial live (went on for weeks!)… and justice prevailed. Was never about the money for him, was about the truth, clearing his name for himself and his family, and to also tell the world (as Amber would mock him) ‘tell the world, I, Johnny Depp, am a victim of domestic violence’.
@@Beautycomesoutofashes exactly !!
@@Beautycomesoutofashes 🙌🏻🙌🏻
@@Beautycomesoutofashes this!! Xx
What has this got to do with j depp
@@michelles2299 Nada!
She ALMOST said that he said ‘you are useless’ and switched to ‘this is useless’ also known as he was critical of her ability to learn a dance rather than her physically….this is honesty.NOT abuse
@@morganmurray6889 another expert on abuse. You where there wasn’t you 🥴
Let's not forget that she's a novice.
@@Liverpoolboy01 By her admission, a lot of people WERE there and evidently from her comments, none of the sympathisers present told Pernice to back off or shut the F up?
Had he tried insulting her using the F word, I'd have told him to shut the F up. Why didn't any of them ever act on the constant abuse? This one man was so intimidating that entire BBC production outfits would decline to say shut the F up?
@@Liverpoolboy01you weren’t either..
@@wewhoflyHe's in a position of power, of course it will be difficult. Lord, the ignorance of the "just tell them to eff off brigade".
She's really milking it now. Not to mention there are real victims of abuse in the work place who do have PTSD, and will now be less likely to be believed thanks to this person attention seeking behaviour
Maybe because the media aren’t believing her and are siding with him. I hope you never have to feel gaslit by a nation or have your feelings invalidated because a stranger doesn’t think it was ‘bad enough’ for you to have a breakdown, there are many things that go into that happening to someone over a lifetime, or could of been a catalyst. As a therapist, this reaction is part of the problem many women don’t ever speak out.
It's people like you that make that difficult, not the victim brave enough to put a bullseye on their back for you people to bully and abuse further.
@@seraphim9333 Excuse me, but you don't me or anything about my life. I actually did suffer from sex.ual harassment at work. As a matter of fact I had to leave that job because of how bad it got. I'm also a survivor of childhood neglect and abuse. So, no, I don't think what Amanda has gone through at SCD is anywhere near that bad. And yes, I think she is milking the situation. She now wants compensation from the beeb. Beeb is financed through TV licence which we all pay to watch telly. So asking for money doesn't endear her to the audience who is paying (literally) to watch the show. It's my opinion. I have one, you have yours.
@@Danceswithfishes then with all you have experienced maybe you should show others the same compassion and grace that I’m glad you show yourself. As you said no one knows what you have been through in your life and you don’t know her life story either. Who are we to judge what is ‘bad enough’ to break someone emotionally? Maybe it triggered a worst past experience for her, maybe she doesn’t have the tools or resilience you do? Either way maybe we should ask why we are so triggered by others experiences that impact them?
I tell you if they find cancer!! You’re not worried about, Gio words 😂😂
How many more interviews is she doing??She got the apology..
she wants money
@@reginacorrigan5324 money
I would hate to be stuck in a lift with her 😮😂😂
Leave her alone! She was verbally abused by a bully who thought he could get away with it. Thanks to her they’ve cleaned up the mess that is ‘Strictly’. Good luck to her.👍🏻❤️
😂😂@@tonyukkola5341
Cancer is a healthier option than being in the room with Giovanni, that is quite an insult and she should have just left sooner then.
She did leave.
@@Nushka23after she made sure she was there for enough time to claim her fee.
@@JodieCollins-e6m and rightly so.
@@Nushka23 lol, if the “abuse” was that bad, she would had left & made her complaint straight away. Wake up & stop defending a bitter fantasist liar. She doesn’t care at all about REAL victims that go through actual bullying & abuse. This was all about attention & financial gain for herself
@@JodieCollins-e6m She did complain right away! And even if she didn't, abuse is a pattern of behaviour that takes time to recognise.
I would like to hear from the person who said I'm sorry you had to go through this Amanda
Why so you can shut them down. I imagine you get pleasure from thinking you are such a superior being. Lacking empathy and stmpatht for a victim of abuse is not a good quality.
Sorry, I phrased my comment wrong, I meant it could help Amanda if this person could speak up in Amanda's defence. I was fully behind Amanda from the beginning that hasn't changed with me .
Good grief. Is this woman obsessing about her experience becuae shes unstable or because shes fishing for compensation? Debbie MGee had a wonderful experience with Gio, as have many others. Why is she intent on trying to destroy him?. Quite chilling when she laughs manically here about someone saying they wanted to kill Gio. He called her a vegetable, maybe he tried to use banter to try to motivate a lazy dance partner. But the serious allegations were held to be false. Enough!
@@lanaevans6695 I knew she would do this, having lived with Narcissists you get to know the type. She is accusing him of what she is guilty of. She is clearly unstable
Just listening to this which shows the degree of her mental health problems which should have been seen at the original interview, she shouldn’t have been accepted on the show in the first place. It was unfair on her and very unfair on Giovanni having to try to teach someone to dance at the pace which he had to each week. Just watching this she loves talking about herself and I really think she is so me, me, me. I am sorry Giovanni has had to leave because of her.
I don't believe one single word. Malevolent individual.
All the other people she is trying to involve. She is insane. Weirdo. Horrid woman.
@@maidmarion2976exactly
The bottom line to all of this is 1. The BBC have the video taped evidence for proof. 2. The BBC have given a public apology to her. 3. Most of his previous partners have come forward to say that it also happened to them.They have also been interviewed by the top BBC executives . 4. He has NOT been hired back!! If the BBC didn't have REAL PROOF to substantiate what she and others before her were saying ,trust me, they would not want a huge lawsuit from his side and they would have him back in a heartbeat ! If you don't believe this then you continue to wear blinders . We see people on tv ,smiling ,speaking and "acting "enthusiastically ,showing affection ,acting positive and being at the top of their game. This is tv ,when the camera is on sometimes it's a persona you are seeing and hearing and not the real person . Of course they're showing their best side. Amanda Abbington , whether you like her or not, has a good career as an actor , do you actually think she went on Strictly for this to happen? This has brought a lot of cruel and vile attention her way ,do you think she's enjoying it? This entire thing is unfortunately going to cost her in the longrun and I'm sure she knows that. She's telling her story because she's trying to protect other woman from having to go through this. This kind of bullying and misogynistic behaviour goes on every day in all walks of life. If you aren't brave enough to speak up ,you are allowing the problem to continue and passing it off to the next woman. You can be part of the problem or part of the solution!
100%
I am not a fan of G but I read her hatefull twiter on and off for years and she was never kind.
Well said. Thankyou. The vile comments she is receiving is disgusting. Just listen to her, no one could be making all that up. She truly looks broken by the experience.
@@jacquelineosullivan3076 Yes,I agree. Most of us women have been there in one aspect or another . We know the feeling of blaming ourselves . Did we instigate it,did we do something wrong,did we dress to provocative, did we say something ?? We go over it and over it in our head. We either choose to bury it or call it out. When there are plenty of women saying the same thing it's hard to come to any other conclusion. He got away with it for too long ,he felt powerful , untouchable and brave. The treatment probably escalated with each new "victim".
@@jacquelineosullivan3076oh cop on she should never have applied for the show as she is super sensitive yet all she had to do was tell him to F... off and it would have stopped it's not as if he abused her it is typical Italian attitude
No harm was meant at all
She was probably to sensitive for the tough job on strictly
You should include the questions from the interviewer.
Why can't I believe she's genuine? Something doesn't feel right...
@@elisabethwatt7874 because you have no discrimination!
According to her wiki page she filed for bankruptcy and victimhood is monetisable.
What I don’t understand is that Amanda made 17 complaints 6 were upheld and 11 were not, she has never been questioned about these during any of her interviews, was she lying about those or was she exaggerating them ?
Why is she getting airtime
@@paulettefelix6648 because she's telling how bullied she was by the dancer
The vile comments are deplorable, especially the ones from horrible women.
Women who recognise a bad actress and a forever victim? Sure, horrible.
Oh get a grip the comments weren't vile at all I have been reared with five brothers
And believe me that's normal banter
She is a complete drama queen
@@LouLou-tl1gv American?
For someone who didn’t want to make waves, its bizarre how she continues to go on and on and on about it. She says that the training was not a healthy situation but surely reliving it incessantly can't be healthy either. Exhausting!
Are you insane get a grip
She's probably doing that because it's helping her to talk about the bullying
What really doesn't ring true to me is the suggestion that so many people contacted her within minutes of the partnership being announced to commiserate - for all sorts of practical and legal reasons and why they would contact a complete stranger to slag off a Strictly pro.
@@Missfrankiecat why is that hard to belive? U dont want to believe her thats why. People make their mind up first and then build a case around that
@@Missfrankiecat as you are doing...its absolutely plausible
That’s not what she said.
She didn’t say it was within two minutes. But if they contacted her early, it was to WARN her, which is perfectly plausible.
I understand she went through a situation of toxic workplace bullying - but the level of victimhood seems insufferable, and I'm struggling with why I am reacting this way whenever I see her interviews pop up! Like, I am on her side! I believe her! It's clear she is indeed telling the truth. It just feels like she has taken this all so deeeeeeeply personally, when it's just a case of this being an a-hole, behaving like an a-hole. We can call it a culture clash - but no, he behaved like an a-hole. But it's as though she has a lot of insecurity this has uncovered, and so it's really been blown out of all proportion. I mean, to have the courage to do all of this, open up emotionally in a public broadcast, but NOT to say 'HEY!' or 'NO!' or speak with management, or to simply to walk away at the time, is what seems off. I'm lacking empathy for her and am really not sure why!!!!!! :(
I think you’re lacking empathy for her because she’s quite frankly being ridiculous. To say “good” when she found the lumps in her breast is not normal.
Glad you believe her! She is obviously telling the truth. She she shout a bit louder and go and tell the world more ! She's being mild in my opinion. And so she should take it deeply, it's terrible! Why your annoyed at her ? You should ask yourself why . He's been revealed as a bully and she's a victim and you dislike her for it .. odd
I’m finding it hard not to say anything especially considering what poor Amy was going through last year.
Enough is enough
And what did she call Giovanni. The only people rolling their eyes are the general public. She certainly chose the right profession, even though she's not very good at that either.
She shouldn't of gone on the show ,she must of known it would be grueling!!
Gruelling ???
Did you hear how she was treated?
Wake up !
@beegalli1158 oh wow he called her a couple of names he was cleared of any wrong doing. This liar accused him of physical harm and shock nothing was found
Why stay?
Why didn't she just leave ,
Don't get it
Contracts
She did!
Money
But she did, yet she was still criticised.
That's for the lying...@@adwoamk8918
The inquiry has delivered its findings. She has had an apology from the BBC and Gio has been told about his wrong doings.
Amanda now needs to stop milking the situation and get on with her career, if she still has one. She’s known as being trouble by some people in the business.
So Amanda, keep your head down and try to save your career.
Also good luck to Gio in his new ventures. Well done for dusting yourself out and starting all over again Gio.
This!!
She doesn’t have to accept the report though and her lawyer seems to think there is more to unravel here from the BBC. Why would she pursue this if not true when it’s hurting her so much if she’d not been treated abysmally? Makes no sense for her to as it’s more trouble to her family and that is what makes me sure she’s right. The lawyer will get to the bottom if this and we will see who has not been truthful.
My god a women who big ups an abuser. Well done Julie!🥴
if thats what wrecks her life gives her PTSD hen she has a problem in herself
@@dianecameron137 you are so nice 🥴
[sarcasm] I love how she is now accusing Giovanni of being Misogynistic. [/sarcasm] The BBC report stated that Giovanni was not cruel, he was not aggressive and he certainly was not Misogynistic. Did you know that one incident of what the BBC deemed as bullying was Giovanni saying "You're so talented but you're wasting it" - I can hear gritted teeth of frustration permeating that sentence, but anger? Bullying? Please, give me a break. Giovanni's Lawyers have stated that what Amanda Abbington is saying in public now are lies and that she must stop saying them. I honestly believe that if she continues saying what she is saying in this interview and adding more garbage to it with each telling, she could find herself in court for slander and libel - so all the money she's earning from these interviews will be blown on having to pay Giovanni for her slander
Have you seen how Amanda Abbington behaves? She swears like a sailor, uses foul swear words and suggestive tones etc, so she creates an environment of her not seeming to care about whether or not someone in her company uses the same language or behaves in the same way as her. I believe it was this kind of environment she created while she was on Strictly - and then fabricated most of what Giovanni's supposed behaviour was towards her for publicity, not caring one iota that by doing so she would be attempting to ruin someone's else's career, reputation and public/private image.
I'll finish on this. Amanada Abbington let something slip. @4:41 she begins the story about how she found two lumps on her breast the morning of the day she left Strictly. The MOMENT she told Giovanni why she was having problems with the dance they were doing (the lumps on her breast) and how she couldn't concentrate because of them, Giovanni was immediately supportive of her; Amanda states "He (Giovanni) was great and he said 'let me know how it goes' - but shes not happy. It's like she's blaming Giovanni for not being supportive of her dilemma from the moment she arrived for Training, that he was only supportive when she told him. So did she expect him to be a mind reader, that he should have known without her having to tell him?
Thanks for your diatribe 🥴
So you’re ok with him saying she’s a 51 year old menopausal woman and he’d still f*ck her?? Is that ok behaviour in your opinion? I see it as arrogant and abusive behaviour, and I support Amanda for calling it out.
Very good points.
The BBC reported.omg do you hear yourself?.That bastion of truth and virtue,what,that BBC.?
@@Liverpoolboy01🤡
I think Amanda is too sensitive. With Her anxiety issues, she should never have done something so strenuous. Too soft because I would have yelled at Gio to F off.
Maybe with her perspective watching the show through the years, she never expected how toxic and bleak it is behind the scenes.
FFS give it a rest 🙄
It can't have been nice but talk about milking the fuck out of it. Acting like he tried to kill her or something
Bulllyingg someone mentally is dangerous, it can k!!ll people
I always defend women in these situations and really want to!! But something feels disingenuous. I cant put my finger on what it is. 😢
You know what it is. She's blatantly lying and making the whole thing up.
She's an actress!!+
Makes you part of the problem.....
I'd never defend a woman off her say so, there masters at playing the victim for attention. There very devious.
Good grief woman, get a grip, you didn’t get on and you found it much harder than you thought so want to heap the blame elsewhere. Sorry for any health woes but stop milking this narrative, being melodramatic isn’t a good look.
I’ve tried to keep an open mind about this whole situation, but I have to say that when she said “good” after finding two lumps in her breast, that just did it for me. What a vile thing to say. Being put down by someone’s words is genuinely hurtful, but wouldn’t anyone rather be called a vegetable than possibly have breast cancer? There’s something not right with her, that is very clear to me now.
Don’t continue to victimise the victim.
@@InExcelsisDeo24 …this professional “victim” felt glad at the thought of having breast cancer. Real victims are those having to go through chemo, and worse, actually dying from cancer.
@@MoonSpinners Can you not imagine being so traumatised that anything can feel like an escape route? This is not an unusual experience. And cancer patients have vastly different reactions to diagnosis and treatment. You are projecting your own stuff onto her. Her honesty is very real. We often have thoughts in our heads that we wouldn’t reveal to others for fear of judgement.
@@InExcelsisDeo24 …I don’t agree that I’m projecting any of my stuff onto her, because as someone who has been emotionally abused most of my life, I would immediately take her side. But that being said, I do agree with you that she truly feels what she feels, but I can’t help but think that what she’s feeling is suppressed trauma from something in her past. Whatshisface may well have been a bully, but if the worst was being called a vegetable, well, come on, that doesn’t justify wishing you had cancer. I think she’s overblown a situation but I wasn’t there to witness it, I’m only going by my gut reaction. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong.
@@MoonSpinners u misunderstood that entirely!!
U have deliberately misunderstood or cant work the nuance out around what she was implying?
Get over it,we are all sick of this
Hope you’re never sexually harassed in this way
@@juliehemingway8180she wishes!! She was obviously rebuffed by him and this is her revenge
She's right to try to make money now because her career was never going to be great and no one will touch her after this in case she tries to exploit them
How is she making money from this. Do you really think abuse victims think like you. She is I forming us of her experience and the shocking psychological and emotional impact and you are denying that on her behalf. God forbid you have someone close to you experiencing such a thing they'd obviously not be getting the understanding and empathy they would need.
@@grai she doesnt need money you fool. She is an acclaimed actress
I'm wondering how many people defend him because they have done similar or mayne their son or husband has and friends ahd they would defend any male ...if he was rich and good looking or they benefit from defending him. Isnt it sickening..cant see the truth staring st them and live in denial
She’ll get a trial for slander soon if she keeps doing this….
@@helenatkinson7422 🤣🤣🤣🤣
For goodness sake get over it think of others. You decided to do the show for money and it did not work out
Get a life
really ? 🤔. so you don't mind anyone talking to you like shit do you .. or putting you down every day .. sounds to me you had a very bad childhood. mind you , you can get over it can't you . just like she can ..
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Amanda's really milking it! Move on, woman.
Nasty
You are a grown up deal with it in a grown up way you shouldn't have signed up for the show
This comes from giving everyone a medal just for taking part nowadays at school. Everyone grows up without facing criticism, and entitled to have everything their own way. She needs to get a grip
Very true no one can be criticised or told they have made a mistake and as you say nobody can lose everyone gets a medal and are told they are an amazing fabulous winner
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I am beyond sick of this woman's whining. She was PAID to be there. She was not being held in bondage. She seems like someone who would gladly give someone hell. If she thought babbling on about this would help her, it has done the opposite. She is milking playing the victim to the extreme. I used to like her as an actress, but won't watch anything she is in going forward.
Women power you fail, miserably!
He didn't abuse you...only 6 of your 17 complaints upheld and none of them of were of a serious nature. Wow still playing the victim...
Six is A LOT. He should have done NONE.
Six is six more than what it should be because he shouldn’t have done ANY to her. He was abusive.
You trust the bbc!
If she’s so offended, abused, insulted etc etc etc…. She should ask the BBC to remove all footage from social media, BBC platforms, RUclips etc etc etc….. I thought she danced quite well and showed no signs of hating her time with Gio…. In my opinion, Gio should be back on Strictly next year… he’s certainly one of the very best dancers ever.
And good looking and charming too ,no doubt, another Gio fangirl eh.
@nannynobnobs8312 what's wrong with that......
Just be quiet. Stop all these unfounded allegations. Give it a rest.
We are always attacked if we dare to speak out. Speak out anyway. Well done.
FFS it's over and done with. Get over it woman. 🙄
It isn’t over and done with
@@juliehemingway8180 🤣🤣🤣 OK then 🤣🤣🤣
You're a grown woman. You were the celebrity. You should have said in no uncertain terms, do not ever speak to me like that again, not even in jest.
Why should it even happen in the first place, though, to anyone? It is easy for someone that wasn't in that room to say that.
@@dee2022uk I don't believe it did.
@telbel4979 OK.
Why? Because things happen and adults deal with them. Not desperate luvvies, adults! @@dee2022uk
@@telbel4979 👈🥴 talk about delusional.
Am I the only one that’s a little bit like “Read the room?”
There are kids dying in Gaza and you’re crying because some knob called you a vegetable.
Why didn’t you just insist on a new partner if you had been given warnings from 15 to 20 people about his demeanour.
Not everyone is nice to us and sometimes we’ve just got to suck it up, move on all or confront it head on there and then.
Trust me, there much worse things going on in the world at the moment.
I’m sure she’s aware that there are people suffering across the planet, but that doesn’t mean she should feel ‘lucky’ she’s only being verbally abused. Give it a rest and behave yourself!
Everything matters. How we behave to one another matters. Just because it seems small to you. Stop minimising it by saying it could be worse.
Gaza declared war on Israel and now people in Gaza are dying
That's what happens in war
If hamas didn't want a war they shouldn't have declared one
@@grai Well said!!!
Interesting you've picked out gaza. There are one or two other places in the world where children and adults are dying because of the behaviour of islamist regimes/militia ... Do you know what happened to babies, children and adults on October 7th 2023? No mention of that horrific trauma (on-going) from you, swinburnejames.
No l feel she is now lying,embellishing all the time
Absolutely, how did all those who messaged her within minutes of hearing who her partner was have her contact details as they didn't know her? She's adding more & more to all of this which is bizarre as most people who suffer with PTSD find it extremely difficult to talk about their experiences.
Ive read a lot of comments and it seems to me that theres a lot of people ( who have just sat and listened and heard this woman tell everyone how she was treated and how she was spoken to. She put up with bullying, insults and cruelty, did i mention bullying? Oh yes i did. She was absolutely spoken to with low level disrespect - as a human being, and as a woman.....all under the umbrella ofhim being a passionate artist and teacher...who speaks to women as being pointless and diffucult. Imagine going somewhere to enjoy yourself and learn to dance and celebrate dancing and performing and you are subjected to by insults and talked down to) and here there are lots of women blaming the poor woman, criticizing her and not supporting and believing her. Imagine if it was your sister or your daughter. I tell you what, theres something wrong with you. I know the world is getting worse and theres so many supporting negatives and ppl siding with narcisists and bullies, with lack of awareness or compassion or without any intuition or discrimination of what and who and which behaviour is right or wrong. But this is shocking how so many have written here. You must be a part of a collective fall in humanity tio go on at this wonan who clearly was not treated well. When someone doesnt fight back...like she should have done in the beginning and nipped him in the bud, then she should now have ppl, women and men fighting along side her, or for her. Its well known that ppl fight the weak, the tolerant, the nervous ones, the ones that dont speak up but put up, with..That's basically why he bullied her, Instead of sympathising with her, there's such nastiness continuing. Yes, thats what she seems to attract, poor woman. And you dont even know youre doing it to her , too. Youre just highlighting a big problem in society . Sad. Plus, if she was a young inoffensive girl or your daughter, youd stand up for her. But because shes older and appears capable, youre calling her a moaner and a liar. Youre just as abusive. Sooo sad. It seriously makes me wonder if the ones against her here are comfortable being treated the way she was and dont think theres anything wrong with it. You should have more respect for yourself.
And of course you were in the room.
@@beegalli1158 Yes, the comments are filled with misogyny including internalised misogony. And the sadly typical victim gaslighting that has seemingly become acceptable. And people wonder why victims don’t report abuse
@@beegalli1158 no-one is going to believe what another person says without question - there has to be proof. A young girl may be too afraid to say something. A grown woman, in these days, should and would immediately say something and not endure such treatment IF it happens..........she was not forced to go on for weeks and months if her experience was so bad - she could and should have spoken to bosses immediately and/or taken a chaperone with her.
However jonemof us were there so we do not know what the truth is.
Internalised misogyny
I believe it of him. He is smug in his interview and met his sort before...very charming men.
People side with the men who provide something for them. Amanda doesnt offer u anything as a woman...but he does.
Also slsgging off a professional intelligent female interviewing him. Why should she be nice to him? She knows she prob witnessed it on set and will know his reputation and the smirking is he knows she knows!! But she is limited in what she can say . Read between the lines.
It's so obvious.
Wimen fancy him....that's obvious ....and therefore he gets away with it.
It's happened the world over ..the woman is tis and that and Oh he is so lovely.
He is when he wants to be.
The most charming men are often the ones that u r shocked whst they r like at home.
The traits he possesses are very in keeping with a person who presents a fake persona in public.
@@helenatkinson7422 we are all entitled to our opinions but unless we were there then we do no nknow what the truth is and can only speculate.
The more she speaks the more i disbelieve her.
Because you may be suffering from some form of narcissism? Perhaps some self-examination is in order...
Enough. Gio, is a hard taskmaster. Simply chart his consistent successful throughout the contest. I have a sense Amanda struggled with the rigors of his approach tbh . Lets draw a line and move on.
You move on!
Thanks for speaking out Amanda. There are so many children, men & women who suffer abuse quietly. People dont speak out due to fear of backlash, being unbelieved, losing thier homes, jobs or feeling embarrased...and thats why abuse continues. You are a strong woman!
Apparently she us lying that Giovanni started recording the session. I wonder who's lying
Amanda if you don’t want horrible comments withdraw from social media and concentrate on your friends and family for support. You made your point and and complaints and I’m sure you went through a tough time but NOW silence replaces a thousand words.
She has a very negative energy .... And comes over poorly. She should have just left the show earlier
Well when it starts out with "he called me a vegetable! Do you know how offensive that is?!" I'm not really buying that it was that bad.
Absolutely. My Avocado is writing an official complaint.
@@HouseholdDog Avocado is a fruit.
@PatriciaBrown1711 Do you know how offensive that word is to the gay community?
Lots of toxic people on here too!
The comments on here show how common misogyny is in the U.K. it’s not ok to treat someone like this. I’m sorry Amanda. It’s awful how he treated you.
@@moirahyde750 it’s called truth. You can call it what you like but women are not falling for it. It undermines all the women who really suffer
Why are people so quick to defend him because they dislike her/love the show, I'm not saying to straight up believe claims of abuse but there were witnesses and also past contestants that went through very similar with him. Are people ignoring all that because they want to believe him and call her a liar.
@@isabelculleton7740 There are ways of doing things. If this actually happened the way she portrayed it then behave appropriately. She has been using every manipulative tactic available.
@@maidmarion2976 Have you ever had to deal with bullying in your work place? How did you deal with it? It's good to hear the peoples' strategies.
@@maidmarion2976well said !
Again … tone of voice. He is Italian! Italians sound harsh. There’s also such a thing as sarcasm
Italians are not like that at all. Have you ever been to Italy or lived there? They are on the whole incredibly warm people.
Why doesn’t she just go to his face and call him a Cnut… it’s over
The world has far bigger fish to fry right now at this rate she will come off far worse in the long term.
That usually does not work in a professional setting.
@ ie it sounds far from a professional setting
Well, you know what they say...... there are always 3 versions of the truth, 1 version on either side, and then what actually happened. Without seeing the evidence, no one will ever know the actual truth.
Think they should have carried out some sort of physiological evaluation on these non entities before they join strictly 🤷🏽♂️
What’s her physiology got to do with this?
I wish these outlets would stop giving her the airtime. These luvvies can't deal with someone who's not in their circle of yes men.
Never watch the show, never watch BBC, to be honest only have it so I can watch the live football on Sky, Anyway, I think she is emotional due to the health scare, I think she has the wrong people advising her, in her own words she said the guy totally supported her after she told him she found 2 lumps, hope she gets well soon.
You didn’t get on, get over it.
Sick
And sad
It wasn't that simple
You are an actress. Taught to act with watery eyes but not to produce a tear as it ruins a scene. I’ve not seen one tear yet
He back in italy dancing with the stars😊
The woman is deranged he did not abuse her and was cleared all he did was rant at her and shook his hands l think she did more ranting just look at her woman is nuts
Rolling of eyes, tutting, calling you a vegetable. Sweet Mary mother of god call the press we all must know about this heinous criminality
Her husband is completely paralyzed. I think that's why she got so upset about the vegetable remaek
But he didn’t mean vegetable in that way.
@@distancebetweenstars8047 This is real, distance between stars. It's not a drama mate its real. Real people. Real feelings. Real meaness. Real woman, really hurt.. you know, ....real feelings. She's telling ppl she suffered. Where is your heart????
@@beegalli1158 Feelings should be considered of course. But this is a world of high level competition (even if it is a dismal entertainment programme).
We absolutely cannot go through the world constantly adjusting to people's feelings. It's a direct race to the bottom. People who lack robust characters shouldn't automatically be able to dictate terms so that everyone else has to accommodate them. It's a very real problem. People who get neurotic about not being able to control the world around them often try to control other peoples behaviour instead.
It's dressed up as empathy but much of it is nothing of the sort. It's just a strategy for controlling people we don't particularly happen to like on a personal level. Thats not acceptable. Worse still, it's a strategy that-taken to the nth degree-means we're left with no functioning adults in the room. Everyone has to constantly tread on eggshells so as not to upset anyone else. A culture of professional victimhood.
No thank you.
I didn’t like her even before Strictly. I know I don’t know her but there was just something about her that seems off. I think she’s trouble
To all the haters in the comments, maybe Amanda can’t ’shut up’ about it because it was an overwhelmingly traumatic experience for her and talking about it is what she needs to do because she’s still so affected by it? Only her and Giovanni know what went on and no one else so not sure what gives y’all the right to be so judgemental towards her alone.
She's doing it because she's been paid
I agree
The misuse of the word "haters" by people who lack the context of the true meaning is annoying. Nobody is hating on her. That would imply envy. Perpetual victim syndrome is not a good look. The "ya'll" trying to sound American was also cringe.
Why didn’t you just tell him to shut up !!
Thats exactly how abusers work - they have the capacity to be nice and CHOSE not to exactly as you say. You paint the perfect picture. I’m so sorry you had to go through this, thank you for speaking out despite the horrendous comments and shaming you have received. Sending love ❤️
@@maddiedawes94 how are so many people on so many sites ignorant of this fact???
@@maddiedawes94 inhope she knows that the internet doesnt represent the whole of the audience...many peoplenwont speak out or up but they agree with what happened...mminenabd mynhusnads family that about 50 people in total.. have all discussed this and they dont use online...2 of them do but would never comment.. so please know thse arenjust obsessive Gb fans and have not experienced abuse and many are and csnt even see that!! Its a huge denial and women often not facing up to it ....I mean fgs there are women that know their husbands are abusive to their kids or their kids they deny the reality of that. The Netflix doc of the brothers whose dad sexually abused them...she knee all along ..she chose to prioritise her lifestyle with him and therefore they raged at her too ...they loved her but cudnt get past the betrayal. People emotions and how we csn delude ourselves is a huge issue. These people often seek refuge in alcohol or other things and will live their who lives in denial. I've seen it in my own life with people I've met. As a society we have a huge problem of not believing women and also not believing kids ..how can anyone speak up when they are shamed. U wonder why kids wont speak up ? This right here
@@maddiedawes94 thank you for putting that so eloquently.
I do believe her.
So over this now
I really don’t know what to make of her. If what she says is all true, it’s awful. But what if it isn’t. Gio has come out and said the complete opposite. Is he lying? Is she lying? Was there misinterpretation on both sides? I just don’t get it.
I think this is a very difficult and neuanced problem as someone who is very over emotional like Amanda I can completley see why she was so hurt and upset. There is also the fact that she is an actor not a dancer so the focus is different. I think he was in the wrong and should have admitted in part at least. But she really needs to stop talking about it now. She is taking unfair criticisim for keep talking.
*nuanced
Go away now
Living up to your name.
How come everyone is being so HORRIBLE towards her???? Giovanni sounds absolutely hideous. Until you walk in someone’s shoes, you don’t know. It’s like when people say ‘why didn’t they leave?’ To battered women. It’s a very complicated, mind controlling situation. So easy to type something and join the crowd…..
There's this pathetic thing called "celebrity worship". Sheeples watch these celebs and think they are perfect; put them on imaginary pedestals and then can't believe they can do anything wrong. It's much more common that you think. As you can see from all these comments. There's also a lot of sexism/misogyny towards women going on here from other women. It's ingrained in society unfortunately that women just have to grin and bear it.
@@Heinz57ishenabling them and wost of all denying a victim of their experience and being supportive of the perpetrator shows just how emotionally unintelligent and abusive people are today in society. It's a great shame.
@@jc-246 I'm afraid I agree
@@Heinz57ish so true ..I'm relieved other women are aware and alert to the fact ..doesn't give much hope for our daughters but then the internet is full of people who only have the ability to consider one side of a story!
@@jc-246 it's a disgrace to women the way they will back a sexy guy up and yes he is sext but so what...that afford him the cover he needs doesnt it. Nobody wud bother if he was ugly I'm telling u ...they'd say oh he looks like an abuser. As they say ..they love among is and hide in plain sight
For god sake he called her names shes so self absorbed…. she lost the vast majority of her complaints and shes still going on such luvvie and an actress give it a bloody rest you lost!!! You lied most of your complaints werent upheld why give her more publicity, you keep saying you have all this evidence other people saw it etc etc, well clearly not or your complaints your serious complaints would of been upheld if it was that obvious but it was looked into and you were found to have lied ie not upheld so stop touting yourself round as if you won you didnt you lost… pathetic and the sun dont give her anymore publicity thats what a narcissist wants and of the two whose the one who wanted attention!! as a narcissist its been her not him
@@eleanorcook2342 well said
yes she iost
Well perhaps you weren't good enough
Give your fee back if so horrendous
She looking a fool now
@@HazelMott-l1c she's suing the BBC for more money
Who are these people saying sorry? Name em and lets hear from them. Her words against his ! End of day he probably is knob head and has been a competitive dancer all his life and Amanda maybe just thought it was a bit of a boogie and not serious
@@glenngarner7610 Fucking good, BBC is full of Nonces
Don’t believe her and then to say she’s got PTSD is disgraceful
And breast cancer. That was because Amy Dowden had it in my opinion. You don't suddenly find two lumps and all is fine. I know I went through two operations and treatment last year.
Absolutely. Habitual liar.
@@angelabaker1992She is an actress, a bad one, but has learned her lines. All lies. She is a dangerous woman
@@angelabaker1992So did I 3 years ago. I never liked this woman and I don’t trust what she says.
@@angelabaker1992 People do find lumps in their breasts that turn out to be benign
Boring
@@CoolHandLuke-q1e says the expert on boring 🥴
Next! You’re just not a very nice person, end.
Pot, kettle.
Is it just me or does all this sound like a pack of lies? Hard to remain impartial when a very articulate grown-up woman is so obviously playing such a dangerous game. Wonder what he really did, or didn't do, to upset her so much...
Awful woman. Remember she went bankrupt for not paying her taxes, to such an extent we would consider it a lottery win.
Despicable type. And the pity party 😂😂😂 what she has done to that young man is nothing short of despicable.
What he said to her as she said in a job capacity was that not enough to react if it was you ? Duh
I didn't get a pay out the first time I moaned.
lets try again.😢😢
dancing is one of the hardest things. not for the faint hearted, and wasn't in the days of fred and ginger. amanda should never have taken part. she can't possibly have been that clueless. its a 'show me the money' situation now. she'll be starring, with a straight face, in a documentary about toxic behaviour by christmas. mark my words.
So sad to see all the comments against her ... have some heart UK, no wonder women choose to keep abuse hidden , like this poor woman they know they wont be believed.
For god's sake it's not abuse
Leave the man alone
she wasn't good enough
Well said, @ABS-oh8jt. ♀
There's genuine victims that She's mocking here by comparing her experience to theirs.
Abuse? Not getting on with someone is not abuse.
she has set women back with her lies and she should be ashamed of her sorry nepo ass.
I would believe any woman but something feels off. She’s not very articulate and stumbles over everything normally a trait of trying to make something sound so much worse or lying.
I think she started something and just ran away with it. I hope she finds peace I really do
That's what abusive and manipulative people they - make the victims look like loons
@@ria2159exactly so many armchair experts assessing Amanda’s behaviour too blind to realise that someone still struggling with a traumatic experience is not necessarily going to be the best version of themselves right now - and if she was what the OP thinks more ‘believable’ as in more articulate and less teary then she’d be accused of being cold and calculating and accused of being too polished I’m sure. So basically there’s a certain hateful segment that just wants to be nasty regardless. I mean I don’t know either whether Amanda is telling the truth or not but obviously she’s upset somethings happened so my natural instinct isn’t to cancel Giovanni but neither is to mock her either 🙄
Give it a rest 🥱🥱🥱🥱
Why didn't she complain the first time it happened
Are you kidding?
Exactly
SHE DID
Well done Amanda for speaking out .
She hasn't got the right personality to be on Strictly in the first place. Obviously there was no magic between them. She is over dramatic. Go into private therapy and stop broadcasting the events to the world.
Should have left as soon as the bullying started & should have reported him immediately… should not have felt she needed to tolerate such abhorrent behaviour… no matter how successful someone wants to be in anything. Hope you are stronger now & glad you are sharing this to empower others ❤
Agreed but why let someone else ruin something you really want to do.
Agree with you but feel he needed reporting and exposed. She could have asked to change dance partner maybe? Awful situation. He’s been on tv trying to explain his behaviour, I couldn’t look at him 🫤
First off, was she really serious about progressing in the comp and getting to a standard that isn't all that far off the pros level?
If so, didn't she know that it's guaranteed that no pro dancer EVER made it to the top without being shouted at and insulted.
I think what we have here is a pampered 'luvvie-darling', who has never heard the words NO or YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG, in her entire, cotton-wool lined adult life.
100%
Shes just a drama queen and I’m so sick of hearing about this now! If he was so bad as she’s describing why in the hell wouldn’t you walk out earlier, no one was forcing her to be there.
Have U ever worked under an chauvinistic Italian man?
You dont understand the topic or abuse at all otherwise why make such a stipid statement as that 😮
@@davidbosquette4798oh god. Here comes the Amanda simps 😂
Wet lettuce @@davidbosquette4798
Came here to say the same.
This is getting boring now.
"getting".…?