It seems unfair to make the Chinese carry land attack missiles which they can't use in the battle while the other carrier groups carry exclusively anti-ship and anti-air weapons.
he openly said all the battle was set up to cripped red team one way or another > make sure blue alway win . because he get more money donate every time blue team win
I just want to reiterate THIS IS A VIDEO GAME, it does not replicate all the intricacies found in a real world battle, it does not replicate the weapons capabilities in real life, and therefor it does not have any bearing on real life. I think some people forget that.
Not only is this a game, this is DCS, the worst game to simulate a naval battle in. That's why I watch cap's videos with a huge bag of salt lol. His videos are fun, but in no way it simulates or represents what would have happened if the USN and PLAN clashed in the sea.
@@superbudegu if fictional doesn't matter then the quote "pens are mightier than swords" will not able to exist . constantly bombarment unfamiliar , naive viewer with misinformation , lies , fictional , bias confict/war scenario long enough then people will believe everything you said are truth . that is "how to win information/propagranda warfare 101" . why do you think there are so many channel with 500k , 1m+ sub praise US/NATO ability will crush china/russia everytime working 24/7 exist ? the inforgraphic show , the military show , politico , Sandboxx , task and purpose .v.v.v can't even remember how many of them there
@@kimjonglongdong3158 DCS is not made for modern naval warfare simulation, only something like Command: Modern Operations can do something like this and even CMO is not realistic enough. the naval battles you see on this channel are not real and this is not how they would nplay out in real life. Most of the weapons used have their real capabilities classified, the ranges of the naval battles are not real, the missiles and AI are dumb af, there is no EW involved, etc. Naval warfare is very complex for a game like DCS to emulate properly, not even CMO is capable of that.
@@superbudegu Ah so its more that DCS is better suited to older tech battles, plus lack of info on modern systems? The battles are still pretty fun though
RUclips/Google continually choose to work with the CCP defense companies over American companies, and you wonder why a video that ever shows criticism toward the Chinese is demonetized? Bro, there are intelligence groups made of tens of thousands of analysts telling RUclips what to censor/demonetize/suppress/blacklist.
Why is this a complaint? They only have 8 Type 055 and 25 Type 052. The US has 73 Arleigh Burks, and 13 Ticonderoga. IF people want to put all the freaking Chinese cruisers 055 in one carrier group then the US should be allowed 9 Ticonderoga's. Each hosting 75% of their Cruizer fleet in one carrier group which is stupid. Really the 2 055 and 4 052 vs 2 TC & 4 AB should really look like... The US having 12 Arleigh Burks and 3 Ticonderoga's and 2-3 Carriers vs 1 Chinese Carrier 2 055 and 4 052.
@@WindowsXP-SP3 its more or so their missile capacity that makes them relevant, they have around 122 VLS cells vs the Burke's 96 VLS cells. and Datalinking is a thing so even if the Tico's have older radars the Burkes can make up for that and guide the missiles the Tico fires along with the E-2 hawkeye towards the targets.
In 2023 alone, China built 43.22 million tons of ships while America only 0.6 million. Just imagine if China puts that massive ship building capacity into military purpose. It can make American navy look like a small baby in no time.
The problem is with the conversion rate (seen 30:1 from some study) and restricted supply of crucial parts. But I highly doubt the scenario as the building time of modern warships are that long and the supply chain so vulnerable. The side that is slightly disadvantaged in the first few days will have their shipbuilding asset wiped out. And to consider that the US has two ocean fronts and its operation base lined up all the way toward China's door step, basically it can afford to lose many battles but keep gaming while China is one defeat from game over.
@@TimothyFreadman-n7l chinese type 055 is far more advanced/powerful than American small floating coffins like Arleigh burke built with 1980s technology
The SM-3 is an exo-atmospheric interceptor for medium and long-range ballistic missiles. It lofts a small kill vehicle into near-space along the trajectory of the BM, and then the kill vehicle jets itself into the sub-orbital BM. The kill vehicle on the SM-3 isn't even explosive, it is entirely kinetic. The YJ-21 and YJ-18 are based on short-range BM's that don't leave the atmosphere. The US Navy carries SM-3s in their VLS because these interceptors need to be used over the Pacific near the Russian/Chinese coasts, or over the Atlantic near the European coast. If used near the US coasts, the warheads would likely already be entering the atmosphere and could not be intercepted with an SM-3.
@@jimwsh1 Hi, well he is english so make sense , you could do your channel and make he red win ,,, Or just do not watch . End of the day just a game , fortunately
@@FreeRojava2025 True let the troll fall for their on delusion . I like looking at those video from the houthis PR they are such nonsense , yet people like them the guy is a total caricature of Sash Baron Cohen ... so hilarious .
CAP, can you please model the SEARAM for the arleigh burke flight III's. It is similar to the HQ-10 from the chinese. I know you have the RIM 116, but they seem under modeled compared to the HQ-10
This game is 16 years old? So a 2008 engine but with 2024 tech. I love when you redo old battles because of the history lessons. I enjoy these as well though.
Nice fleet combat videos! Please add random submarine influence to make more realistic as subs might be deciding factor in many scenarios. Keep up good work.
YJ-21 is probably a great missile, but obviously a destroyer group with no carrier would NEVER get into range to fire. This is why carriers are still vital to naval operations.
Yup 100% with you. Cap's correct that mix of realism & entertainment is the way to go. Who would watch if there was zero drama and zero uncertainty from a continually one-sided fight? And you certainly wouldn't watch if the game crashed over and over from the US using multiple carrier groups! Simulations will improve over time, of course! That said, I personally get huge value from the occasional exploration of a reality-centric video like this one. Well done!
@@Doodelz02 "Who would watch if there was zero drama and zero uncertainty from a continually one-sided fight?" are you blind or just pretent to not see nearly all of his battle video between blue vs red team alway end up with blue team won in a turkey shot 2+/1 k/d ratio with alot of love bias toward blue ? more aircraft , mass equip 5th gen , smaller rcs , human pilot , more missile cap/aircraft , US anti air missile god-like accuracy , full of non-existen future weapon ?
@HoangNgocThanh-qy8cq I'm sure that's well intended feedback. (I'm not, but trying to be polite). Feel free to invest the time and energy to make your own in an effort to support your family and entertain folks around the world. I'll happily watch ... one.
It would be awesome, but he said he's waiting for people to create the models for those other navies. I think it will take a while... There are also tricky things to model for them, like the STRALES system used by Italy.
I don't know anything about DCS so i've no idea if it can even be done. But I would like to see a PvP battle with evenly matched fleets where each side has a player acting as the admiral. That would really give some insight into what a real battle would be like.
What do I do after you Vids? Go to make coffee and then sit down to work (I work on a UK University Student Management system all the way down here in NZ)
RUclips keeps deleting my comments with suggestions so I guess I'll just give up and say that the U.S. Naval doctrine (centered around AEGIS) cannot be accurately modeled in DCS.
Would love to see zumwalt eventually, both versions the current one and its future refit to give it the Long Range Hypersonic Weapon (LRHW), it might be able to counter the 055 class of ships.
Given how long Cap has been doing this I'm surprised that any complains about something. I'd like to complain about a few things but the game has it rules and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Maybe if someone make DCS2.....
@grimreapers You're infographic for the Type 055 is wrong. In the sim the Type 055 fired 480 HHQ9Bs but the infographic you posted shows them with 72 a piece for 432 in total. So it looks like in game they have 80 HHQ-9Bs
Just an observation - The type 055 is larger than its counterparts; 6 of these would equate to 7 Burke class in terms of displacement, which in turn provides and equivalent number of VLS cells between the two sides. I wonder if a strike group would add the 7th destroyer if such a fight were anticipated. Another aspect that troubles me about these fights - the aircraft take off after the fight has already started. Wouldn't it make more sense to have at least some of the aircraft in the air at the start of the engagement (if not all of them)?
Yep at the very least the Carrier should have a flight of 2-4 in the air on patrol to help buy time to launch the next flight and if the carrier group are the ones initiating the fight they should already have at least a full squadron in the air before the fight starts.
Cap great video as always…. One consideration I keep thinking about during this series is the anti ship planes once launched anti ship weapons they should engage other planes with short range
No it does not because it's not a naval simulator. It's a digital air combat simulator that has Naval assets. You're going to have to find a naval simulator to realistically do this kind of simulation. As he said this is just for fun
Already addressed this on a different video, They would like to do other navy"s like france & italy for example, but the assets aren't available yet, They will do the other navy"s as they become possible..
Compare carier with destroyer is like compare truck with infsntry tactical vehicle dude, those are destroyer mean to destroy everything they have ability to eliminate whole navy f-18 fleet at once.
I’m new to this but would these destroyers ever get within firing range of their anti ship missles? Seems like the advantage of an aircraft carrier is like having aircraft that can out range a ship
@@IetsgoBrandon I actually wrote Mongolian Navy first instead of Paraguayan, but it was too much of an insult to DCS, plus technically the "Mongolian Navy" wasn't really a military/armed branch even though it was at one point a government owned service.
The modeling of YJ18 should be improved. It is a subsonic and supersonic anti-ship missile.This missile will discard the subsonic tail at the end, and the supersonic warhead at the front will sprint at a speed exceeding Mach 3.
And to think that they're doing stuff like this on more powerful equipment, and getting paid a lot of money to do this, at the Pentagon, Whitehall and the MoD in Beijing.
So in reality the Us would have the carrier along with destroyers, cruisers, and attack subs and the last 3 ships mentioned all would have anti ship missiles. The ships also have anti aircraft/ missile defense. But as you properly did the us would also include ally ships in operations in certain type of operations. However our aircraft carriers have the F35s so the air wing would definitely launched to also counter the 055 type destroyers causing the Chinese to either loose their ships or turn and break off!
If real war started, and going with nukes wont be used, how long could any country expect to keep affording, monetarily, too replace destroyed top of the line equipment? Planes, tanks, ships...all of it..at what point would a country be forced to go back a generation or 2 of a given piece of equipment? Let's say its the 3rd year of a back and fourth hard fought war, both sides are having medium to heavy losses. With the cost of the top equipment being so much money, I feel like at some point the top equipment would no longer be an option for replacement. F35 back to F15 type of situation. US VS Russia/China... how long could each country keep replacing top of the line with top of the line?
That was nonsense. Sorry to hear that, Cap. I thought it an interesting fly-by of earth terrain I'll never otherwise get to see. (plus enormous fun with your team, of course!)
Yeah that video is ridiculous. You want to prove how dangerous they are and basically set them against a force that disposes of basically 5 times the firepower....
Could we please see an all asian carrier battle? Izuma and Kaga vs Liaoning, Shandong. Maybe South Korea supports the Japanese with two Sejong The Great destroyers attached to their groups (similar vla to Ticonderoga). Thanks
@spencer7404 Yes, I know history pretty well, actually. And seeing how you are not aware of the JAROKUS pact it is my pleasure to be the one to inform you that both countries signed a security pact in 2023 and have already participated in war games together and will do so again in 2024. They are both proud democracies with shared rivals. I am glad to be the one who got to tell you.
@@joed1015 I know about that. It's just a show for the US. It means nothing. Those two have zero trust in each other. In fact, they will both enjoy sitting and watching the other one die. Let's wait and see how Yun Seok-yeol ends up with first. Then you may talk about the so-called pact, as a joke. The Koreans don't like his decision so much. And cut the ideology naive BS. The world doesn't work that way. It's about money and power. And if you know Asian history, as you claim, most of the time, Korea, China, and Japan got along with each other pretty well. As for rivals, Japan's gonna bite the US sooner or later. This country knows when to kneel. And China is a partner of Korea. They need each other more than you think. Watch less fake brainwashing news.
Overmodeled Chinese Destroyers they get their full propaganda stats even though the Chinese have no experience in modern warfare (especially naval warfare) to prove their capabilities. The carrier groups also have no planes in the air until the fight has already started.
This is so dumb. The whole point of a US carrier group is FORCE PROJECTION. The Chinese destroyers would never get in missile range before the carrier launched all its strike-capable aircraft to attack them. Plus, while the strike aircraft are executing their mission, the US carrier group would be steaming in the opposite direction of the Chinese task force to keep them out of their missile range.
Hey gents are CHs assets working again for the common man, or are you still having to fix them. Sorry for asking but CH dosent answer his trouble tickets. Thanks
I know it’s got to be a cast iron bitch to A come up with ideas for entertaining videos B try and please all sides in the viewership and C do it every other day. I personally am neutral on these carriers battles because they don’t really take into consideration all the things that would happen in reality. It’s basically leakage of anti ship missiles. Whichever side prevents the most leakage wins. I much prefer the historical recreations and re-enactments. With the maps we have now in DCS there are tons of historical and interesting topics. Just the Sinai map alone is enough for a month’s worth of videos. Any way, that’s my 2 cents for what it’s worth
Anyone who thinks the battles using modern or near future tech are going to be realistic are idiots. It's fun to watch, like a sports match, but pretending that the made up numbers are reflections of reality is madness. Or how you end up with F-15s lol
A loyal dog of the United States. In the Middle East, American aircraft carriers can't even defeat guerrillas.😅A loyal dog of the United States. In the Middle East, American aircraft carriers can't even defeat guerrillas, but in your video, they can challenge Chinese fleets.😅😅
@@假的自由言论 Are mice DESIGNED to have heavyweight torpedoes that can do this ruclips.net/video/5DuJaGFkCmg/видео.html to ships? Your entire analogy is false. Nuclear submarines are purpose built ship-killers (and killers of other subs). By contrast, destroyers are primarily designed for AAW and ASW is secondary.
Stupid simulation, A Carrier Group has that many Cruisers and Destroyers among other support ships and you add a UK Carrier Group. If it was the Prince of Wales it wouldn't make if far from port!
This is assuming that the Chinese have a functional carrier, or even a blue-water navy that can actually meet the U.S. at parity, neither of which they actually have in reality.
@@SandersBernie-dl6in Blue water navy means being able to support entire battle groups out in Blue water operations during a war not that a single vessel can be supported anywhere during peace time if that was the qualification criteria every European Navy would be classified as Blue Water capable as well.
Unrealistic... The Chinese destroyers would each catch fire or have some kind of failure (engine failure, missile launch failure, missile guidance failure, etc.) before arriving at the battle area. 😏😏
hmmm yes that is interesting. I would expect DF-26 to be about the same speed as YJ-21. My suspicion is that the problem is that the YJ-21 is now traveling a lot lower than it used to. It may be causing problems for the interceptors?
It seems unfair to make the Chinese carry land attack missiles which they can't use in the battle while the other carrier groups carry exclusively anti-ship and anti-air weapons.
he openly said all the battle was set up to cripped red team one way or another > make sure blue alway win . because he get more money donate every time blue team win
I feel like someone want to cheating to win for he has still feel good. 😁@@HoangNgocThanh-qy8cq
尽管如此，蓝方依然不开心😂
the britz also had land atack missiles
没办法，有些人喜欢看这样的游戏结果，博主当然为了观众做他们喜欢看的东西
I just want to reiterate THIS IS A VIDEO GAME, it does not replicate all the intricacies found in a real world battle, it does not replicate the weapons capabilities in real life, and therefor it does not have any bearing on real life. I think some people forget that.
Not only is this a game, this is DCS, the worst game to simulate a naval battle in. That's why I watch cap's videos with a huge bag of salt lol. His videos are fun, but in no way it simulates or represents what would have happened if the USN and PLAN clashed in the sea.
@@superbudegu if fictional doesn't matter then the quote "pens are mightier than swords" will not able to exist . constantly bombarment unfamiliar , naive viewer with misinformation , lies , fictional , bias confict/war scenario long enough then people will believe everything you said are truth . that is "how to win information/propagranda warfare 101" . why do you think there are so many channel with 500k , 1m+ sub praise US/NATO ability will crush china/russia everytime working 24/7 exist ? the inforgraphic show , the military show , politico , Sandboxx , task and purpose .v.v.v can't even remember how many of them there
@@superbudegu can I ask why DCS is the WORST game to simulate a naval battle in? Is it highly inaccurate compared to other games?
@@kimjonglongdong3158 DCS is not made for modern naval warfare simulation, only something like Command: Modern Operations can do something like this and even CMO is not realistic enough. the naval battles you see on this channel are not real and this is not how they would nplay out in real life. Most of the weapons used have their real capabilities classified, the ranges of the naval battles are not real, the missiles and AI are dumb af, there is no EW involved, etc. Naval warfare is very complex for a game like DCS to emulate properly, not even CMO is capable of that.
@@superbudegu Ah so its more that DCS is better suited to older tech battles, plus lack of info on modern systems? The battles are still pretty fun though
Imagine demonetizing just for showing Afghanistan
We must have said something that YT didn't like, but not sure what.
@@grimreapers "China too powerful so..."
@@gregbrown3764 It wasnt this video which got demonitized
RUclips/Google continually choose to work with the CCP defense companies over American companies, and you wonder why a video that ever shows criticism toward the Chinese is demonetized? Bro, there are intelligence groups made of tens of thousands of analysts telling RUclips what to censor/demonetize/suppress/blacklist.
Secret service's stern warning to YT caused it?
Why is this a complaint? They only have 8 Type 055 and 25 Type 052. The US has 73 Arleigh Burks, and 13 Ticonderoga. IF people want to put all the freaking Chinese cruisers 055 in one carrier group then the US should be allowed 9 Ticonderoga's. Each hosting 75% of their Cruizer fleet in one carrier group which is stupid. Really the 2 055 and 4 052 vs 2 TC & 4 AB should really look like... The US having 12 Arleigh Burks and 3 Ticonderoga's and 2-3 Carriers vs 1 Chinese Carrier 2 055 and 4 052.
Not to mention the sub escorts. But chinas got a lot
Of subs now too, and that puts a whole other crazy dynamic to the sim
Is Ticoderoga really better than Arleigh Burks? I thought most of them will retire soon.
@@WindowsXP-SP3 Tico has more VLS. While Burke Flight III has better radars.
@@WindowsXP-SP3 its more or so their missile capacity that makes them relevant, they have around 122 VLS cells vs the Burke's 96 VLS cells. and Datalinking is a thing so even if the Tico's have older radars the Burkes can make up for that and guide the missiles the Tico fires along with the E-2 hawkeye towards the targets.
The 055 is a destroyer not a cruiser.
I like that you showed the 3 minute version. Gives us a proper frame of reference.
In the GR Bingo game, "Cap apologizing for his voice" is the free square.
I'm scared of these things too. Thanks for the sim Cap!
In 2023 alone, China built 43.22 million tons of ships while America only 0.6 million. Just imagine if China puts that massive ship building capacity into military purpose. It can make American navy look like a small baby in no time.
The problem is with the conversion rate (seen 30:1 from some study) and restricted supply of crucial parts. But I highly doubt the scenario as the building time of modern warships are that long and the supply chain so vulnerable. The side that is slightly disadvantaged in the first few days will have their shipbuilding asset wiped out. And to consider that the US has two ocean fronts and its operation base lined up all the way toward China's door step, basically it can afford to lose many battles but keep gaming while China is one defeat from game over.
The difference is quality vs quantity. Chinese boats are floating aluminum cans, US boats are heavily armored
@@TimothyFreadman-n7l chinese type 055 is far more powerful than any American obsolete craps like Arleigh burke built with 1970s technology
@@TimothyFreadman-n7l chinese type 055 is far more pwerful than American obsolete junks like Arleigh burke built with 1970s technology.
@@TimothyFreadman-n7l chinese type 055 is far more advanced/powerful than American small floating coffins like Arleigh burke built with 1980s technology
Cant people just watch and enjoy?....great work Cap...thanks for the Birthday present CAP..45 I turn today...👉🏻.
Happy birthday 🎂🎂
Can't people add value to the discussion? jeeez...
Happy Birthday!
So they took ad money for the Afghan map video but then de-monetised it?? Cannot stand this platform anymore ripping off creators..
Yup
i noticed that the US didn´t fire any sm3 why is that? and would that have made a big enough difference?
The SM-3 is an exo-atmospheric interceptor for medium and long-range ballistic missiles. It lofts a small kill vehicle into near-space along the trajectory of the BM, and then the kill vehicle jets itself into the sub-orbital BM. The kill vehicle on the SM-3 isn't even explosive, it is entirely kinetic. The YJ-21 and YJ-18 are based on short-range BM's that don't leave the atmosphere. The US Navy carries SM-3s in their VLS because these interceptors need to be used over the Pacific near the Russian/Chinese coasts, or over the Atlantic near the European coast. If used near the US coasts, the warheads would likely already be entering the atmosphere and could not be intercepted with an SM-3.
Your Afghan map video getting demonetized is completely ridiculous. Must have angered somebody with city pronunciations… somehow?
Biden team trying to forget about Afghanistan 😂😂😂
@@david7384 For real 😅😂
lol, love ur vids too
@@NoTBeta-bo4nc Great to see you lol
Maybe the Taliban complained to YT, because they thought your Afghanistan video was bad for tourism.
Fair comment.
US aircraft carriers can be hit by Houthi missiles, but in the game, they can successfully shoot down YJ-21
Source ? BS
蓝队必胜，不然这个频道就要被网暴了
@@jimwsh1 Hi, well he is english so make sense , you could do your channel and make he red win ,,, Or just do not watch . End of the day just a game , fortunately
Except an American carrier ha never been hit with a Houthis missile…
@@FreeRojava2025 True let the troll fall for their on delusion . I like looking at those video from the houthis PR they are such nonsense , yet people like them the guy is a total caricature of Sash Baron Cohen ... so hilarious .
CAP, can you please model the SEARAM for the arleigh burke flight III's. It is similar to the HQ-10 from the chinese. I know you have the RIM 116, but they seem under modeled compared to the HQ-10
yeah SeaRAM is better than CIWS in all sorts of testing. but in DCS it doesn't work for some reason
@@xpk0228 Are you sure? Didn't CH get it working on the Constellation Class?
This game is 16 years old? So a 2008 engine but with 2024 tech. I love when you redo old battles because of the history lessons. I enjoy these as well though.
DCS literally came out 16 years ago but it is continuously updated. Also remember it is a air combat simulator not a naval simulator
Nice fleet combat videos! Please add random submarine influence to make more realistic as subs might be deciding factor in many scenarios.
Keep up good work.
You forget their jamming ability of the Type 055s
YJ-21 is probably a great missile, but obviously a destroyer group with no carrier would NEVER get into range to fire. This is why carriers are still vital to naval operations.
You should model the Zumwalt class destroyers.
They would add a lot of power to the US Carrier strike group.
they are only making 8 of them AT THE SAME TIME. But already 8 are in duty since 2017. and future plan is up to 24
Why add the British aircraft carrier? It is a mobile museum.
So you're saying protecting your culture against the British History Museum isn't a relevant defense goal?
Interesting video Cap!
Spectacular video, good work Cap :)
A rapid dragon or hypersonic revolver would be a nice addition to fleet Warfare videos!
Yay!! A GR vid!
Not a bot, just love this series!
Yup 100% with you.
Cap's correct that mix of realism & entertainment is the way to go. Who would watch if there was zero drama and zero uncertainty from a continually one-sided fight? And you certainly wouldn't watch if the game crashed over and over from the US using multiple carrier groups! Simulations will improve over time, of course!
That said, I personally get huge value from the occasional exploration of a reality-centric video like this one. Well done!
@@Doodelz02 "Who would watch if there was zero drama and zero uncertainty from a continually one-sided fight?" are you blind or just pretent to not see nearly all of his battle video between blue vs red team alway end up with blue team won in a turkey shot 2+/1 k/d ratio with alot of love bias toward blue ? more aircraft , mass equip 5th gen , smaller rcs , human pilot , more missile cap/aircraft , US anti air missile god-like accuracy , full of non-existen future weapon ?
@HoangNgocThanh-qy8cq I'm sure that's well intended feedback. (I'm not, but trying to be polite). Feel free to invest the time and energy to make your own in an effort to support your family and entertain folks around the world. I'll happily watch ... one.
Thank you Cap! Did you do this cos I asked nice?
Allied carrier groups need to operate together to maximise mutual protection.
Could you do US vs Britain and France and maybe also Spanish and Italian harriers
It would be awesome, but he said he's waiting for people to create the models for those other navies.
I think it will take a while...
There are also tricky things to model for them, like the STRALES system used by Italy.
I don't know anything about DCS so i've no idea if it can even be done.
But I would like to see a PvP battle with evenly matched fleets where each side has a player acting as the admiral. That would really give some insight into what a real battle would be like.
you should do an air force one escort and see if it could defend it self
Because I know the Ford supercarrier class it has sm3 and sm6 launchers and out defensive system such as Harpoons also attack systems also
Just curious, what kind of computer does it take to run a simulation like this?
This is a amazing. The UK has two crippled never-eady toys that they call carriers. Such a serious topic to kick off the joke.
Well not really, they are the most modern aircraft carriers with a lot of sailing hours already…
Oh no, you've find a configuration where the US is not wiping the floor with !
What do I do after you Vids? Go to make coffee and then sit down to work (I work on a UK University Student Management system all the way down here in NZ)
RUclips keeps deleting my comments with suggestions so I guess I'll just give up and say that the U.S. Naval doctrine (centered around AEGIS) cannot be accurately modeled in DCS.
Same
Would love to see zumwalt eventually, both versions the current one and its future refit to give it the Long Range Hypersonic Weapon (LRHW), it might be able to counter the 055 class of ships.
Great vid Cap!
As an American, GG
Given how long Cap has been doing this I'm surprised that any complains about something.
I'd like to complain about a few things but the game has it rules and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
Maybe if someone make DCS2.....
Hey cap just gotta ask why didn’t us use sm-3? I think they could have won in the beginning by them selves with it
好吧，很有趣，感谢制作，只是这样的场景不会在现实中发生。
@grimreapers You're infographic for the Type 055 is wrong. In the sim the Type 055 fired 480 HHQ9Bs but the infographic you posted shows them with 72 a piece for 432 in total. So it looks like in game they have 80 HHQ-9Bs
Just an observation - The type 055 is larger than its counterparts; 6 of these would equate to 7 Burke class in terms of displacement, which in turn provides and equivalent number of VLS cells between the two sides. I wonder if a strike group would add the 7th destroyer if such a fight were anticipated.
Another aspect that troubles me about these fights - the aircraft take off after the fight has already started. Wouldn't it make more sense to have at least some of the aircraft in the air at the start of the engagement (if not all of them)?
Yep at the very least the Carrier should have a flight of 2-4 in the air on patrol to help buy time to launch the next flight and if the carrier group are the ones initiating the fight they should already have at least a full squadron in the air before the fight starts.
If only i had the money for this sim
Also in the first test scenario were the YJ21s actually attempting terminal maneuvers? cause if they were that'd be a new feature CH snuck in.
I don't think it's on purpose, it's changes to core game that make it behave differently I think. May be wrong.
How about 6 ticos? I know they're getting retired but, go out with a bang ig
Day 5 of asking cap to bring humans back to carrier battles
The most powerful yj21, in your video, feels like a useless thing, obviously weakened.
Cap great video as always…. One consideration I keep thinking about during this series is the anti ship planes once launched anti ship weapons they should engage other planes with short range
It’s a dcs limit. AS units cannot engage enemy air unless it’s self defence
do you use ship countermeasures ie chaff, flares nulka decoys?
No it does not because it's not a naval simulator. It's a digital air combat simulator that has Naval assets. You're going to have to find a naval simulator to realistically do this kind of simulation. As he said this is just for fun
@@Wyomingchief i was just curious, thanks for clarifying
I know this is DCS which is avaliable on steam but i always thought it was just fighter jets that were allowed. how are you using naval assets?
Can you do a French vs British carrier strike group video
Already addressed this on a different video, They would like to do other navy"s like france & italy for example, but the assets aren't available yet, They will do the other navy"s as they become possible..
did you model the yj21 with mach6 or mach10 and terminal maneuver?
Compare carier with destroyer is like compare truck with infsntry tactical vehicle dude, those are destroyer mean to destroy everything they have ability to eliminate whole navy f-18 fleet at once.
Great video.
I’m new to this but would these destroyers ever get within firing range of their anti ship missles? Seems like the advantage of an aircraft carrier is like having aircraft that can out range a ship
correction china is launching its 10th type 055 so... GG WP
can you do a whole navy vs whole navy or is that too much?
they would need a NASA PC for that 😂
way too much
Depends on the navies in question. Swiss Navy vs Paraguayan Navy is totally doable(technically both of those nations have naval contingents...sorta).
@@colbunkmust Mongolian Navy is surely doable, lol
@@IetsgoBrandon I actually wrote Mongolian Navy first instead of Paraguayan, but it was too much of an insult to DCS, plus technically the "Mongolian Navy" wasn't really a military/armed branch even though it was at one point a government owned service.
Question: Is it possible to create a stealth missile?
Even absurd than battlefield man
The modeling of YJ18 should be improved. It is a subsonic and supersonic anti-ship missile.This missile will discard the subsonic tail at the end, and the supersonic warhead at the front will sprint at a speed exceeding Mach 3.
And to think that they're doing stuff like this on more powerful equipment, and getting paid a lot of money to do this, at the Pentagon, Whitehall and the MoD in Beijing.
RAF akrotiri could be vital soon for the west IRL
You gave the US and China their most powerful escorts but only gave the UK 2 T45s instead of 6.....not right.
Cap can u add zumwalt with their special hypersonic missle
Isn't SM6 capable of anti-shipping now?
Yup.
6*055 DDG vs 6*B-1B w/LRASM
So in reality the Us would have the carrier along with destroyers, cruisers, and attack subs and the last 3 ships mentioned all would have anti ship missiles. The ships also have anti aircraft/ missile defense. But as you properly did the us would also include ally ships in operations in certain type of operations. However our aircraft carriers have the F35s so the air wing would definitely launched to also counter the 055 type destroyers causing the Chinese to either loose their ships or turn and break off!
😂first day interested in military？
in reality, YJ21 is just too OP, u can tell just by looking at this made up video
Can you do a video without the limit speed of an object? ( I mean in Navy War game)
If real war started, and going with nukes wont be used, how long could any country expect to keep affording, monetarily, too replace destroyed top of the line equipment? Planes, tanks, ships...all of it..at what point would a country be forced to go back a generation or 2 of a given piece of equipment? Let's say its the 3rd year of a back and fourth hard fought war, both sides are having medium to heavy losses. With the cost of the top equipment being so much money, I feel like at some point the top equipment would no longer be an option for replacement. F35 back to F15 type of situation. US VS Russia/China... how long could each country keep replacing top of the line with top of the line?
Afghanistan demonetized?
That was nonsense. Sorry to hear that, Cap. I thought it an interesting fly-by of earth terrain I'll never otherwise get to see. (plus enormous fun with your team, of course!)
Yeh that was just weird and annoying of them.
Yeah that video is ridiculous. You want to prove how dangerous they are and basically set them against a force that disposes of basically 5 times the firepower....
Could we please see an all asian carrier battle? Izuma and Kaga vs Liaoning, Shandong. Maybe South Korea supports the Japanese with two Sejong The Great destroyers attached to their groups (similar vla to Ticonderoga).
Thanks
Dude, do you know any Asian history at all? Korea and Japan will never be really on the same side.
@spencer7404 Yes, I know history pretty well, actually. And seeing how you are not aware of the JAROKUS pact it is my pleasure to be the one to inform you that both countries signed a security pact in 2023 and have already participated in war games together and will do so again in 2024. They are both proud democracies with shared rivals. I am glad to be the one who got to tell you.
@@joed1015 I know about that. It's just a show for the US. It means nothing. Those two have zero trust in each other. In fact, they will both enjoy sitting and watching the other one die. Let's wait and see how Yun Seok-yeol ends up with first. Then you may talk about the so-called pact, as a joke. The Koreans don't like his decision so much. And cut the ideology naive BS. The world doesn't work that way. It's about money and power.
And if you know Asian history, as you claim, most of the time, Korea, China, and Japan got along with each other pretty well. As for rivals, Japan's gonna bite the US sooner or later. This country knows when to kneel. And China is a partner of Korea. They need each other more than you think. Watch less fake brainwashing news.
YJ-21 is ballistic antiship missile😅
DCS just an outdated cold war simulator
8 type 055? your old info needs some update
Laser weapons not in 2030?
What game is this?
2 carrier groups vs 6 destroyers?
Overmodeled Chinese Destroyers they get their full propaganda stats even though the Chinese have no experience in modern warfare (especially naval warfare) to prove their capabilities.
The carrier groups also have no planes in the air until the fight has already started.
Since when can the US or UK defend against hypersonic missiles? The carrier groups are sitting ducks…
Well they did in Ukraine via Patriot and i suppose the German Iris-T.
The 055s are modeled so they have 80 hhq 9b-s each not 72 because they had 480 of them and 480/6=80
This is so dumb. The whole point of a US carrier group is FORCE PROJECTION. The Chinese destroyers would never get in missile range before the carrier launched all its strike-capable aircraft to attack them. Plus, while the strike aircraft are executing their mission, the US carrier group would be steaming in the opposite direction of the Chinese task force to keep them out of their missile range.
If US carrier get to the opposite position, where will these planes land? The bases around China but also covered by their ballistic missiles?
chinese sponcers?
Nope. If anything US sponsors
Hey gents are CHs assets working again for the common man, or are you still having to fix them. Sorry for asking but CH dosent answer his trouble tickets. Thanks
I know it’s got to be a cast iron bitch to A come up with ideas for entertaining videos B try and please all sides in the viewership and C do it every other day. I personally am neutral on these carriers battles because they don’t really take into consideration all the things that would happen in reality. It’s basically leakage of anti ship missiles. Whichever side prevents the most leakage wins. I much prefer the historical recreations and re-enactments. With the maps we have now in DCS there are tons of historical and interesting topics. Just the Sinai map alone is enough for a month’s worth of videos. Any way, that’s my 2 cents for what it’s worth
Anyone who thinks the battles using modern or near future tech are going to be realistic are idiots. It's fun to watch, like a sports match, but pretending that the made up numbers are reflections of reality is madness. Or how you end up with F-15s lol
A loyal dog of the United States. In the Middle East, American aircraft carriers can't even defeat guerrillas.😅A loyal dog of the United States. In the Middle East, American aircraft carriers can't even defeat guerrillas, but in your video, they can challenge Chinese fleets.😅😅
What does it take to beat 6x Type 055 destroyers? How about 1x Astute/Virginia/Seawolf class submarine?
My money would be on the sub.
知道什么叫驱逐舰吗
叫老鼠攻击猫愚蠢程度让人难以置信
@@假的自由言论 Are mice DESIGNED to have heavyweight torpedoes that can do this ruclips.net/video/5DuJaGFkCmg/видео.html to ships?
Your entire analogy is false. Nuclear submarines are purpose built ship-killers (and killers of other subs).
By contrast, destroyers are primarily designed for AAW and ASW is secondary.
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你是想让潜艇来送人头吗
Stupid simulation, A Carrier Group has that many Cruisers and Destroyers among other support ships and you add a UK Carrier Group. If it was the Prince of Wales it wouldn't make if far from port!
This is assuming that the Chinese have a functional carrier, or even a blue-water navy that can actually meet the U.S. at parity, neither of which they actually have in reality.
Right... so the 055 in alaska was just a figment of everyone's imagination. LOL Cope harder
@@SandersBernie-dl6in
Blue water navy means being able to support entire battle groups out in Blue water operations during a war not that a single vessel can be supported anywhere during peace time if that was the qualification criteria every European Navy would be classified as Blue Water capable as well.
W vid
It's been up for 4 minutes
Unrealistic... The Chinese destroyers would each catch fire or have some kind of failure (engine failure, missile launch failure, missile guidance failure, etc.) before arriving at the battle area. 😏😏
The Chinese cannot defeat an army of soldiers with two mothers
Where are Russia ship?
type 055aura
West Taiwan is taking notes.
DCS is not real as in real life
@@Mr.Su-35Flanker-E thanks, captain obvious.
@@Mr.Su-35Flanker-Etrue, in real life, China has thousands of ground based anti ship missiles 🙄
Is there no wind in DCS?
You can set wind in DCS
You can add it in.
So the YJ 21 have 100% PK? Is that how CH modeled them to be?
Maybe
They don't, I remember CH saying something like 70% PK.
No they don't have a 100 percent pk.
Cap in this video ruclips.net/video/yl-zchkhrYI/видео.html you showed America could defend against 50 DF26s....Are the YJ21s faster than the DF26?
hmmm yes that is interesting. I would expect DF-26 to be about the same speed as YJ-21. My suspicion is that the problem is that the YJ-21 is now traveling a lot lower than it used to. It may be causing problems for the interceptors?
pointless