@@grimreapers Yo Cap! Really hope you like the idea of using AI HAVE GLASS F-16's as Loyal Wingman! Since they are representing smaller aircraft and must maintain low radar cross section they can only carry 2 AIM-120's or 4 Peregrine's plus 2 AIM-9X!
Turns out it might have been a good thing the Lightnings used their Meteors to take out some of those anti-ship missiles. If not there wouldn't have been enough A.A. missiles to save the blues.
On the other hand, those SAMs had already been fired at those incoming missiles when the meteors shot them down… and more meteors could have shot down more anti-ship jets so less missiles would need to be shot down
@@jimmymcgoochie5363Some of thos Metiors missed. So it was good that they did a double tap. I was thinking the same thing. If I was an air to air fighter I would take the cruise missiles out. Without a base to go home to it’s not much good.
UK has: 3 * 48 Aster 30 on Type 45, 144 total 3 * 24 Sea Ceptor on Type 45, 72 total 3 * 48 Sea Ceptor on Type 26, 144 total and 216 total Sea Ceptors 3 * 16 SPEAR 5 in Type 26, 48 total 24 * 8 SPEAR 3 on F-35B, 196 total Russia has: 6 * 24 9M96D on Adm. Gorshkov, 144 total 6 * 32 9M100 on Adm. Gorshkov, 192 total 6 * 16 UKSK on Adm. Gorshkov, 96 total 15 * 4 Kh-35 on Su-33M, 60 total
Yet more top quality content as usual. The idea for the Spear-3 is basically that it is like a very long range Brimstone missile. It will be used far more for long range precision strikes than for anti-ship, although of course they can be used for that. I think that the ability to get 8 in the weapons bay is excellent.
They do seem like a great idea in this scenario though for the exact reason they where useful here. A relitivly cheap way to depleat defence, leaving the door open for bigger missiles to do the real damage.
@@epl803 as shown and stated in the video, they pose enough of a threat that they need to be countered as they can take out vital components, and they can be launched en mass. They're a great way to deplete defences and cripple ships if any get through, leaving the path open for big hitters.
@@MrEsphoenix "cripple ships if any get through" is stretching it for such a small warhead. They are just as likely to spank into the hull as they are to hit a vital system. Depleting air defences is a valid use but that does not make it AShW any more than a MALD is a Deep Strike weapon. Also, this is a gaming video, not an authoritative source on missile system capabilities
@@epl803 Yes, it's a gaming video, thank you for clearing that up Sherlock. You're also commenting under a gaming video. That doesn't make all information given in said video invalid, or prevent it being used as an example. They're precision missiles. Targeting would be soft targets. Radar, the bridge, weapons systems etc. Taking out such things will operationally cripple a ship. Since you like stating the obvious, I shouldn't need to point out that you don't need to completely destroy a target to take it out the fight or reduce its effectiveness.
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Those silly Russians... Meanwhile ignorant of fact that Russians never developed those-invasion weapons and carriers would be dealt with by hypersonic anti-ship missiles from submarines, dedicated to that role only... Something none of you-tradittional-invaders-have...
.. Is it because Russia doesn't need to use it? Its main function is to train crews and pilots for the next generation aircraft carriers and preserve the experience of the carrier group
This is cope. Russia isn't even developing a "next generation of carriers" not was it used "solely for training". They deployed it to the MED in 2018, a quarter of the way through the deployment the decrepit, arresting wires snapped and all of the Russian Navy air strikes were done from land for the rest of the deployment. The ship is so bad it plumed toxic fumes everywhere it went. It broke down twice and had to be tugged by a tug boat. It even caught fire (twice) and is no longer in service in the Russian Navy.
The difference in West and East doctrine is always interesting to me. West doctrine: The guided missile ships defend the aircraft carrier so it can deliver the strike package. East doctrine: The aircraft carrier defends the guided missile ships so they can deliver the strike package.
my GOSH cap you are such a BRILLIANT narrator!! Thoroughly enjoyed that and it's been one of the highlights of my week! Thanks for all the incredible hard work that you guys undertake.
@@chanedmund4252 Because allies are indespensible and theres a good reason why the US works with and maintains such close alliances. I understand what he's trying to say, and its wrong.
Also got to consider, by 2027 it's rumoured the F35B could have the sidekick mod, which will allow them 2 ASRAAMs too. They use those and shoot down more SU33Ms anti ship, and the Brits win with some spare change Also impressed by the SPEAR 3. feel like it should be tested vs a boat swarm, seems perfect with the amount carried. But that and the futuristic SPEAR 5 is a great 1-2 punch
Lockheed Martin themselves have stated the sidekick rack system is for the A&C variants only and say the weapons bays in the B are too small to benefit. What is the basis of this rumor?
Thank you, cap. Any naval battles are my favorite, but I'll watch any of your videos. You explaining things and your genuine excitement is always great.
Life long wargamer here having played WW1 naval with minis and many Fleet series scenarios,,,, thrilling game and exciting commentary. Rounds of Kye for the crews and Pink Gins in the officers mess for the RN.
I always watch the intro to every video. Not only do they give a description of what's going on, but they also give an insight into the amount of thought and planning that Cap and the rest of the GR's have to do for each video. Keep up the good work guys. 👍
That's the thing that irritates me so much about the comment section sometimes, if people just took the time to actually pay attention and listen to the intro and the setup they would have their questions answered
@@kuunoooo7293 Nope. In launch footage and debris from shot down examples in Ukraine it looks basically like an upgrade Oniks. The design used here is based on concept art.
@@nietkees6906 shotdown in ukraine ? Bud this missle isnt even in active service and is tested with the artic and pacific fleet, not the blacksea fleet. Mabye you're refering the the kinzhal and thats its basicly an airlaunched antiship version of the iskander-m
@@kuunoooo7293 No, I am referring to the Zircon. It is in service, and they used it in Ukraine and one was shot down a few months ago. I can’t post links, but you can google it.
I feel like it would be a great idea for the UK to acquire the v-22 and put an awacs radar on top of it to use on their carriers instead of using a helicopter as AWACS because the v-22 can fly higher, faster and has longer loiter time
With EMALS likely to be added to the QE's in the not too distant future, which was planned for when building, maybe they will be able to accommodate conventional AWACS, whether that be Hawkeye or something else. Will have to wait and see.
@@danhodson7187 QE is not getting EMALS. It will likely be the UK EMKIT development....it won't handle anything as large as E-2 or F-35...and thats if the Navy gets funds to do it (doubtful)...
@christhorpejunction8982 There was a few V-22 suggestions for AEW...but none progressed. V-22 height is an issue as it is not pressurised in in effect is restricted in altitude to the same as a helo...range with the aerial array would also be significantly restricted due to drag... Plus we'd now be in a similar situation as the US with a grounded fleet, and CMV-22 not being able to fly over water for extended periods....
There will be multiple versions of Spear evebtually (not Spear 3, thats the MoD requirement name, missile is called MBDA Spear). Spear - 120nm+ mini cruise missile Spear-EW - c300nm Decoy/Jammer (like MALD-J) uses the Leonardo Britecloud tech SpearGlide - c70-80nm Glide munition, same seeker as Spear but no engine, but twice as large warhead (SDBII equivalent) MRUSW - No real name yet, but will likely be SpearGlide without the complex seeker,GPS/INS and perhaps SAL only, penetrating warhead (SDBI equivalent) - low cost
@dogsnads5634 What I mean is that even if it's a "decoy" it should still have an offensive/defensive mission. An example would be having a few submunitions in them with a GPS point to deploy them if they get through. Pinpoint the GPS coordinates for a SAM site then sent the decoy in that direction.
@@timbaskett6299 You could do that...but every kilo of munitions on board reduces the fuel load and endurance of the system...which is its primary role.
@@dogsnads5634 But if they pose no actual threat, then the enemy can ignore them and the bluff collapses. The whole advantage of the SPEAR 3 is that the enemy _has_ to expend air-defense resources on it. Toothless decoys only work as long as the enemy doesn't learn to identify them as decoys. The warhead (and captain-seeking guidance capacity) gives SPEAR 3 more enduring utility - even if the enemy learns to distinguish it from more serious threats, they will still need to shoot it down, or that meager 10kg explosive will get delivered to the room where all the important officers are.
The Russians do not have an active carrier now, nor will they in 2027. Even if they did cobble one together, SU-33 gets derated considerably with anything less that 50kph wind down the deck. Mako is also going to be in service by 2027. SPEAR-3 is a bit undersized for taking on a carrier, but then Russian Carriers can take themselves out pretty well based on empirical evidence
Spear 3 isn't intended to take out a carrier, it's purpose is to just be a metric ton of cheap _stuff_ that you can force your enemy to expend SAMs on, so that the actual antiship-missiles can come in and get through. Which it did an _excellent_ job at in this wargame.
@@subjectc7505 Do you have facts for that statement? as we have 2 and they have both been deployable longer than they have been in for teetering problems (happens with every new ship class, just look at the new yank carriers)
@@WilkyTheFlyingScotsman Look at the White Paper Review and the UK financial issues, the teething excuse isn't gonna pass. They literally mothballed the second one until now and it even couldn't leave drydock because of flooding and losing a propeller also the lack of crew.
Best naval battle yet! So tense! It was a shame the Asters went so crazy at the start rippling out way more than was required and that the early Meteors went for the anti-ships. I think it would've been an easier British win had that not happened. Brilliant Cap, well done! Any word on CH getting us a Type 31 for these battles, would be nice to see that in the UK carrier group as well.
But it was a glorious sight to see 192 SPEAR 3's on their way to the carrier group and Cap was right in that it did preoccupy all the Russian AA for the SPEAR 5's. If anything, I was thinking that the Russian airwing was so dominated by the British airwing, that the Antishippers could've gone out in higher visibility murder spec 16 SPEAR 3's instead and used half as many airframes for it, probably allowing for twice as many AA's.
@@danhodson7187 haha. It sure was glorious and yes, I think you're right. Does the range of the Spear3 out range the S2A capability of the Russians? If so, then yeah you're definitely right. Only thought I had was the stealth characteristic of the F35 allowed it to get closer than it would otherwise.
@@skatman3278 Cap would certainly know more than me. If the F35B can get close enough to launch in murder spec before it is seen, then that could definitely be the way to go. From the video the AA airwing were closer than the SPEAR 3 airwing to the Russian carrier group and were not launched on by the carrier group. So quite possible :) Edit: look at 32:47 as a freeze-frame.
Just one question, why 2027 Russian Fleet will be using Su-33? The last Su-33 was produced back in 1999 and Russia produces no more of it, replacing it with more versatile Mig-29K. All the Su-33s (24 of them), are just gonna serve until they retire with no new one in production. The 2027 Russian Fleet would be more modernized Mig-29K or the naval version of Mig-35.
UK GDP is somewhat larger that Russia. So Russia's losses of 3x UK are devastating. Not to mention that the UK's F-35s would realistically just re-arm and go clean up the rest of the defenceless Russian fleet.
@@Akodo94 true, but GDP does relatively well corellate to the wealth of a nation. Meaning the UK would probably be able to buy much more than Russia could, and invest much more to replace what it lost.
@@regarded9702 all this would take time and raw resources, that you wouldn't have. And after big war began commercial companies will lost a lot in value.
@@Akodo94 my point was that we can buy resources immediately. Production capacity takes time to generate true, even if you can afford to invest massively in it, but we can afford to buy what we lack from our allies until we can produce it ourselves. This is true for all major european countries, even ignoring defence clauses in NATO and the EU. Hence I view all things on a Europe vs Russia scale, as all of europe would be working towards Russia's defeat, even if they were not militarily involved, which they would be. I ignore the US from this as we cannot guarantee it would not be focussed on South East Asia instead. When looking at competition with Russia from a Europe vs Russia basis, Russia has 5 distinct advantages: amoured vehicle production, missile production, shell production, nuclear overmatch and autocracy. Of those only 3 are relevent to this comment: AFV production (IFVs, APCs, tanks, etc) is largely propped up by burning through soviet stockpiles and is a temporary advantage at best. Missile production is an area of geniune concern. Russia is to my knowledge relatively even with europe and seems to be picking up speed. This is easy for europe to fix by just putting in more orders for missiles though, as I am confident most production lines are not running at full capacity. Shell production is a major problem. Russia is currently outproducing not just Europe but the entire west (can't remember if that figure includes RoK). Under current plans, things should even out by 2026 but that relies on Europe actually investing in and building quickly enough new production lines, which it seems to be struggling to do. Anyway, all that is to say, Russia's only real production advantage is in shell production, which it is genuinely winning in and currently by a large degree. But that alone is not enough to claim Europe would be outproduced by Russia generally. This seems to have turned into a rant so sorry about that, but I hope it explained my point.
Yeah right, the mythical S500😂😂 probably an s300 that they repainted and stuck a couple widgets on to it to make it look different. And yet Russia still can't defend its own airspace😂😂😂
Important to point out that the Admiral Kuznetsov has a bunch of VLS cells in its flight deck, which would be a huge liability if it got hit by even a very small warhead like those of the SPEAR-3, which is a weakness not shared by western carriers for obvious reasons.
Sure is nice to live in a country that _doesn't_ have to mine its own CV flight decks to exploit a treaty loophole so they don't end up kneeling before Erdogan as an impotent vassal of the Turks
He said at the start, they usually use Mig-29 as the carrier aircraft but Russian viewers complained they wanted a superior performance carrier capable aircraft.
@@mediador9161 The plan was to retire the 19 remaining Su-33 (of 22 built) in 2015 when they had enough Mig-29K's with 24 ordered for the airwing which started entering service in 2009, but in 2016 after a Su-33 crashed they announced they wouldnt be retired and trsnsferred to Syria instead where they receiving a targeting computer upgrade that year and in 2017 they announced engine refits which started being delivered from 2019 with them to return to the carrier when its refurbishment was complete as the first airwing with the Mig 29K forming the second airwing.
Entertainment at it's finest Cap well done to all involved, I am fairly certain the Type 26 is very similar if not the same as the new Australian warships coming into service "Hunter class"
“When you fight the British, you are fighting fate itself” - Napoleon Bonaparte - (writing from his prison island, where the British placed him in exile, shortly before his death)
Dick head....you hater and clearly got a problem with the UK. Your a TERRORIST SESPECT......C.I.A OR MI5 Need to snach you off the street for a talk. ^^^^*!!
Spear 3 will use a different tachtics - attack from all directions simultaneously. If that works out, even a smaller number will disable the vertical launchers or the radars before any heavy missile arrives. In the end, Brit’s could have fired nsm to finish of the Russian frigates, too
i love these carrier and battle scenarios. What would be cool to better meet the team and understand your guys aka the Humaniods, to do like a best of 3 tournament between all the guys to understand the hierarchy of pilot's skill when looking at these scenarios. Like Simba, Grump, Cannonball, Matrix, Cap yourself, Killer, Strider, Bird, Poosh. I know I am missing some like our German friend and etc. But it would be cool to see who comes out on top in a dogfight 1v1 tournament style. you could maybe do one at 4th gen and another at 5th and let the pilots pick their airframe and missiles. Like 5th gen everyone will pick the Raptor and AIM 260 but 4th Gen I could see F-15 (120D), F-16 (120D), J-15 (PL-15), Su-35 (R-77), & F-18 (120D) all being used. It is also nice cuz you don't need everyone on at once to do it and can just piece it together at the end in one video. You could even do a battle like this then after the scenario run a couple matchups with who is there and wait till next time so hopefully wouldn't add too much time to what awesome work you already do. I've watched many videos and It seems each have their moments of brilliant flying but who is the actual Top Gun!
The Zircon is actually correctly modeled in the game, but not on the thumbnail. It looks really similar to Oniks based on published launch footage and wreckage found in Ukraine. It is also just an upgraded and higher flying Oniks.
It's crazy that 75 nm is short range these days! Without airborne radar, that's double the detection range of surface ships. So any fleet without fighter protection will have no chance to stop the UK's F-35B's. IMO, that makes the UK small ASM a brilliant idea.
Çould the antiship F-35's have carried air to air missiles as well? Is it possible in DCS for tell them to fire antiship missiles and then go air to air?
Long Awaited U.S. Carrier Fleet VS Russian Carrier Fleet 3rd Rematch! Obviously Kuznetsov Carrier. I personally think keep The MIG-29KR's for Air-Air and The SU-33M's for Anti-Ship! MIG-29KR's with R-77M's and SU-33M's with Kinzhal's! 5 Gorshkov Frigates and 1 Slava Cruiser for the Lols! The U.S. Ford Class Carrier, 2 Arleigh Burke's, 2 Constellation Frigates*, and 2 Ticonderoga's! F/A-18F's with AIM-260's and F-35C's* with Mako's!🙏👍
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You need to test drone swarms. Look up Operation Hellscape for Taiwan
ruclips.net/video/KsAR85qK7Xo/видео.html
Nah, by 2027 the Leonidas system would be operational!👍
@@grimreapers Yo Cap! Really hope you like the idea of using AI HAVE GLASS F-16's as Loyal Wingman! Since they are representing smaller aircraft and must maintain low radar cross section they can only carry 2 AIM-120's or 4 Peregrine's plus 2 AIM-9X!
@@grimreapers naval drone ?
Nahhh uhh
I have to say, I enjoy the Naval Battles over the Air Battles!
We survived because of the superiority of Cap as a narrator!
Gawd bless you sir!
Turns out it might have been a good thing the Lightnings used their Meteors to take out some of those anti-ship missiles. If not there wouldn't have been enough A.A. missiles to save the blues.
Yes fair point!
Maybe but also they would have stopped more anti-ship flankers
On the other hand, those SAMs had already been fired at those incoming missiles when the meteors shot them down… and more meteors could have shot down more anti-ship jets so less missiles would need to be shot down
@@jimmymcgoochie5363Some of thos Metiors missed. So it was good that they did a double tap. I was thinking the same thing. If I was an air to air fighter I would take the cruise missiles out. Without a base to go home to it’s not much good.
@jamespaladino2784 Yeah, it seems like a human kind of choice.
Thanks GR for all the years of entertainment! I hope you get well soon cap!
I don't think the Russians will have a carrier in 2027 lol
Fr 😂
Same may apply to UK depending on next election.
Facts
If Russia does it will definitely have a tug in the fleet.
They certainly won’t. It’s likely they won’t have much of a grand force by then.
But hey, if we count T55 they yea. They’re good 😂
This was an epic one, tense right up until the very last missile
Made it into the uk defence journal with this one Cap, well done sir, the carrier battles are the best 👌
UK Defence Journal have just issued a grovelling apology to their readers for treating this vid as if it was a serious simulation! 😂
UK has:
3 * 48 Aster 30 on Type 45, 144 total
3 * 24 Sea Ceptor on Type 45, 72 total
3 * 48 Sea Ceptor on Type 26, 144 total and 216 total Sea Ceptors
3 * 16 SPEAR 5 in Type 26, 48 total
24 * 8 SPEAR 3 on F-35B, 196 total
Russia has:
6 * 24 9M96D on Adm. Gorshkov, 144 total
6 * 32 9M100 on Adm. Gorshkov, 192 total
6 * 16 UKSK on Adm. Gorshkov, 96 total
15 * 4 Kh-35 on Su-33M, 60 total
There's my man!
But some of those ASM Sukhois got gunned by some cheeky Brits! That probably made all the difference!
@@grimreapers You know I typed this out literally one second before I heard you say the thing about counting!
the Type 26 has 16 Spear5 ASMs; 8 of the land attack version (ingame)
@@JB17521or oops, will edit
Yet more top quality content as usual. The idea for the Spear-3 is basically that it is like a very long range Brimstone missile. It will be used far more for long range precision strikes than for anti-ship, although of course they can be used for that. I think that the ability to get 8 in the weapons bay is excellent.
They do seem like a great idea in this scenario though for the exact reason they where useful here. A relitivly cheap way to depleat defence, leaving the door open for bigger missiles to do the real damage.
SPEAR 3 being "AShW" is a bit optimistic. It will be able to target ships but satisfactory effect on target will be by luck than design...
@@epl803 as shown and stated in the video, they pose enough of a threat that they need to be countered as they can take out vital components, and they can be launched en mass. They're a great way to deplete defences and cripple ships if any get through, leaving the path open for big hitters.
@@MrEsphoenix "cripple ships if any get through" is stretching it for such a small warhead. They are just as likely to spank into the hull as they are to hit a vital system. Depleting air defences is a valid use but that does not make it AShW any more than a MALD is a Deep Strike weapon. Also, this is a gaming video, not an authoritative source on missile system capabilities
@@epl803 Yes, it's a gaming video, thank you for clearing that up Sherlock. You're also commenting under a gaming video. That doesn't make all information given in said video invalid, or prevent it being used as an example.
They're precision missiles. Targeting would be soft targets. Radar, the bridge, weapons systems etc. Taking out such things will operationally cripple a ship. Since you like stating the obvious, I shouldn't need to point out that you don't need to completely destroy a target to take it out the fight or reduce its effectiveness.
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Its hilarious that the Russian carrier gets more use when you guys use it in DCS than Russia can actually use it in real life😅
Those silly Russians... Meanwhile ignorant of fact that Russians never developed those-invasion weapons and carriers would be dealt with by hypersonic anti-ship missiles from submarines, dedicated to that role only... Something none of you-tradittional-invaders-have...
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.. Is it because Russia doesn't need to use it? Its main function is to train crews and pilots for the next generation aircraft carriers and preserve the experience of the carrier group
This is cope. Russia isn't even developing a "next generation of carriers" not was it used "solely for training". They deployed it to the MED in 2018, a quarter of the way through the deployment the decrepit, arresting wires snapped and all of the Russian Navy air strikes were done from land for the rest of the deployment. The ship is so bad it plumed toxic fumes everywhere it went. It broke down twice and had to be tugged by a tug boat. It even caught fire (twice) and is no longer in service in the Russian Navy.
@@noco7243 source: trust me bro
The difference in West and East doctrine is always interesting to me.
West doctrine: The guided missile ships defend the aircraft carrier so it can deliver the strike package.
East doctrine: The aircraft carrier defends the guided missile ships so they can deliver the strike package.
Think strategically rather than tactically and you'll get your anwser.
my GOSH cap you are such a BRILLIANT narrator!! Thoroughly enjoyed that and it's been one of the highlights of my week! Thanks for all the incredible hard work that you guys undertake.
Now you gotta do 2027/28 Russia China vs UK US.
That's just US vs China....
So 2027 China VS 2027 US with a circus each to support them?
@@whiteshark450 The US often works with allies to enhance its capabilities. Lookup NATO and multi-national CSGs
@@limitlessLtd how do you not get what he means bro
@@chanedmund4252 Because allies are indespensible and theres a good reason why the US works with and maintains such close alliances. I understand what he's trying to say, and its wrong.
Fleet battles are what got me into this community, always worth the hour to watch, keep on keeping on!
Great Vid Cap.
Also got to consider, by 2027 it's rumoured the F35B could have the sidekick mod, which will allow them 2 ASRAAMs too. They use those and shoot down more SU33Ms anti ship, and the Brits win with some spare change
Also impressed by the SPEAR 3. feel like it should be tested vs a boat swarm, seems perfect with the amount carried. But that and the futuristic SPEAR 5 is a great 1-2 punch
Good idea.
I believe it may have been a design consideration to use it against boat swarms.
Lockheed Martin themselves have stated the sidekick rack system is for the A&C variants only and say the weapons bays in the B are too small to benefit. What is the basis of this rumor?
@@Claudius_Nero I stand corrected then
@@joshuasenior4370 it would make a lot of sense due to the amount carried and how expensive even the cheapest American anti-swam missiles are
Thanks
I wish we could simulate the submarine factor in these naval battles. So much more at play
Agreed, that's when those ASW Type 26's would really come into their own!
I don't think the Moskva would be very effective to be fair
The Moskva is the most powerful submarine to exist
Russia has far more subs and more advanced - so this would have ended badly
@@dexlab7539The Moskva doesn’t count, also I think you’ll find the Astute is more powerful.
Great battle! ButI think the scoreboard got the red losses wrong. Where did the surviving 7 Suchois land?
lol yes.
Some went to Bodo, but I noticed that when the aircraft are stowed into the carrier it isn't caught by the scoreboard
You did such an amazing job with commentating the event. It was non stop and you really worked hard!!! Rest that voice!!
Thank you, cap. Any naval battles are my favorite, but I'll watch any of your videos. You explaining things and your genuine excitement is always great.
I was wondering when you were going to remember the second mushroom farm on the Type 26s - took you long enough!
lol yes
That was a really cool battle, Cap narrating like that had me on the edge of my seat.
No tactical classic British Teatime battle pause? LOL great video and interesting.
I love the energy! You sounded quite like a sports commentator and it made me a lot more enthusiastic about the battle! Enjoy your day very much!
Life long wargamer here having played WW1 naval with minis and many Fleet series scenarios,,,, thrilling game and exciting commentary. Rounds of Kye for the crews and Pink Gins in the officers mess for the RN.
I always watch the intro to every video. Not only do they give a description of what's going on, but they also give an insight into the amount of thought and planning that Cap and the rest of the GR's have to do for each video.
Keep up the good work guys. 👍
That's the thing that irritates me so much about the comment section sometimes, if people just took the time to actually pay attention and listen to the intro and the setup they would have their questions answered
Lovely bit of battle there, our valued Cap is on form today!
Never clicked so fast…
That was awfully exciting, Cap! Thank you.
Just clicked onto this Cap.
Question: Have you put the Kuznetsoz's tug boat into this? 😊
You know it's a good day when GR posts!
Are there any plans for the Type 31 Frigate that is currently being made for the RN and is going to come into service 2027 to be made for DCS?
Yup.
@@grimreapers Yay! Can't wait.
Great battle!! Thanks for all your efforts Cap.
Had Cap not been narrating, we would have all lost interest by the 20min mark. Great to hear you back CAP!!!
Not sure if you know Cap but the 8x Spear-3s are supposed to be able to fit in the F-35 weapon bays alongside 2 meteors/Amraams.
Roger, but there is a weird restriction I have that stops me :(
Would love to see the modernised Kirov class battlecruiser Admiral Nakhimov
Are you sure Russia would have a CV in 2027?
They really dont have one now.
same with white thives , they cant afford carriers
Or the UK
@@subjectc7505 for the all the problems ours have had, they have never had a crane fall on them lol
@@regarded9702 our carrier had mishaps like the Admiral lol.
Wonderfully cap’s voice did not die
Nice to hear cap again! Hope you are doing better my guy!
Off that was tight. Fun battle thx cap
can u please do a 2027 chinese naval vs British 2027 naval
Yup
@@grimreaperswill you be able to use Type 31 in the next UK Naval battle
May be the best one yet. Great job Cap
The Zircon doesn’t look like the one in the thumbnail. It actually looks really similar to Oniks and is basically just an upgraded Oniks.
It does look like thar
@@kuunoooo7293 Nope. In launch footage and debris from shot down examples in Ukraine it looks basically like an upgrade Oniks. The design used here is based on concept art.
@@nietkees6906 shotdown in ukraine ? Bud this missle isnt even in active service and is tested with the artic and pacific fleet, not the blacksea fleet. Mabye you're refering the the kinzhal and thats its basicly an airlaunched antiship version of the iskander-m
@@kuunoooo7293 No, I am referring to the Zircon. It is in service, and they used it in Ukraine and one was shot down a few months ago. I can’t post links, but you can google it.
@@kuunoooo7293 both kinzhal and zircon have been downed in ukraine.
One of the best battles you guys have done!!
I feel like it would be a great idea for the UK to acquire the v-22 and put an awacs radar on top of it to use on their carriers instead of using a helicopter as AWACS because the v-22 can fly higher, faster and has longer loiter time
Is it even possible to get one on top of it given the folding rotors etc?
With EMALS likely to be added to the QE's in the not too distant future, which was planned for when building, maybe they will be able to accommodate conventional AWACS, whether that be Hawkeye or something else. Will have to wait and see.
@@danhodson7187 QE is not getting EMALS. It will likely be the UK EMKIT development....it won't handle anything as large as E-2 or F-35...and thats if the Navy gets funds to do it (doubtful)...
@christhorpejunction8982 There was a few V-22 suggestions for AEW...but none progressed. V-22 height is an issue as it is not pressurised in in effect is restricted in altitude to the same as a helo...range with the aerial array would also be significantly restricted due to drag...
Plus we'd now be in a similar situation as the US with a grounded fleet, and CMV-22 not being able to fly over water for extended periods....
Best battle yet for me, The commentry was epic :)
Those Spear-3s are what a "decoy" should do. Semi-expendable, but with a mission.
There will be multiple versions of Spear evebtually (not Spear 3, thats the MoD requirement name, missile is called MBDA Spear).
Spear - 120nm+ mini cruise missile
Spear-EW - c300nm Decoy/Jammer (like MALD-J) uses the Leonardo Britecloud tech
SpearGlide - c70-80nm Glide munition, same seeker as Spear but no engine, but twice as large warhead (SDBII equivalent)
MRUSW - No real name yet, but will likely be SpearGlide without the complex seeker,GPS/INS and perhaps SAL only, penetrating warhead (SDBI equivalent) - low cost
@dogsnads5634 What I mean is that even if it's a "decoy" it should still have an offensive/defensive mission. An example would be having a few submunitions in them with a GPS point to deploy them if they get through. Pinpoint the GPS coordinates for a SAM site then sent the decoy in that direction.
@@timbaskett6299 You could do that...but every kilo of munitions on board reduces the fuel load and endurance of the system...which is its primary role.
@@dogsnads5634 But if they pose no actual threat, then the enemy can ignore them and the bluff collapses. The whole advantage of the SPEAR 3 is that the enemy _has_ to expend air-defense resources on it.
Toothless decoys only work as long as the enemy doesn't learn to identify them as decoys. The warhead (and captain-seeking guidance capacity) gives SPEAR 3 more enduring utility - even if the enemy learns to distinguish it from more serious threats, they will still need to shoot it down, or that meager 10kg explosive will get delivered to the room where all the important officers are.
Love it when Cap gets possessed by the spirit of Murray Walker 😂 don't forget to pause for breath Cap!
The Russians do not have an active carrier now, nor will they in 2027. Even if they did cobble one together, SU-33 gets derated considerably with anything less that 50kph wind down the deck. Mako is also going to be in service by 2027. SPEAR-3 is a bit undersized for taking on a carrier, but then Russian Carriers can take themselves out pretty well based on empirical evidence
The Su-33s have been retired lol they are no longer in service and will not be, they have been replaced by MIG-29KRs
Spear 3 isn't intended to take out a carrier, it's purpose is to just be a metric ton of cheap _stuff_ that you can force your enemy to expend SAMs on, so that the actual antiship-missiles can come in and get through. Which it did an _excellent_ job at in this wargame.
Nor will the UK due to the inability to upkeep it.
@@subjectc7505 Do you have facts for that statement? as we have 2 and they have both been deployable longer than they have been in for teetering problems (happens with every new ship class, just look at the new yank carriers)
@@WilkyTheFlyingScotsman Look at the White Paper Review and the UK financial issues, the teething excuse isn't gonna pass. They literally mothballed the second one until now and it even couldn't leave drydock because of flooding and losing a propeller also the lack of crew.
Best naval battle yet! So tense! It was a shame the Asters went so crazy at the start rippling out way more than was required and that the early Meteors went for the anti-ships. I think it would've been an easier British win had that not happened. Brilliant Cap, well done! Any word on CH getting us a Type 31 for these battles, would be nice to see that in the UK carrier group as well.
WAY too many ASh F35s lol. Sheer amount of Spear3s at the end was ridiculous hahaha.
More AA F35s would mean no SU-33S to launch those last missiles.
Yeh I know, it's hard to judge until you run everything together.
@@grimreapers for sure. Not a criticism. Just made me chuckle just how many Spear3s were pumped out at the end. 😂
But it was a glorious sight to see 192 SPEAR 3's on their way to the carrier group and Cap was right in that it did preoccupy all the Russian AA for the SPEAR 5's. If anything, I was thinking that the Russian airwing was so dominated by the British airwing, that the Antishippers could've gone out in higher visibility murder spec 16 SPEAR 3's instead and used half as many airframes for it, probably allowing for twice as many AA's.
@@danhodson7187 haha. It sure was glorious and yes, I think you're right. Does the range of the Spear3 out range the S2A capability of the Russians? If so, then yeah you're definitely right. Only thought I had was the stealth characteristic of the F35 allowed it to get closer than it would otherwise.
@@skatman3278 Cap would certainly know more than me. If the F35B can get close enough to launch in murder spec before it is seen, then that could definitely be the way to go. From the video the AA airwing were closer than the SPEAR 3 airwing to the Russian carrier group and were not launched on by the carrier group. So quite possible :) Edit: look at 32:47 as a freeze-frame.
So happy that you're still gabbing Cap!
I love when stuff goes pear shaped 😂. Very entertaining!
Just one question, why 2027 Russian Fleet will be using Su-33? The last Su-33 was produced back in 1999 and Russia produces no more of it, replacing it with more versatile Mig-29K. All the Su-33s (24 of them), are just gonna serve until they retire with no new one in production. The 2027 Russian Fleet would be more modernized Mig-29K or the naval version of Mig-35.
UK GDP is somewhat larger that Russia. So Russia's losses of 3x UK are devastating. Not to mention that the UK's F-35s would realistically just re-arm and go clean up the rest of the defenceless Russian fleet.
GDP meen nothing in case of actual war. Commercial companies with very high GDP would not give you weapons.
@@Akodo94 true, but GDP does relatively well corellate to the wealth of a nation. Meaning the UK would probably be able to buy much more than Russia could, and invest much more to replace what it lost.
they can always ask big daddy China for support and worry about the consequences later.
@@regarded9702 all this would take time and raw resources, that you wouldn't have. And after big war began commercial companies will lost a lot in value.
@@Akodo94 my point was that we can buy resources immediately. Production capacity takes time to generate true, even if you can afford to invest massively in it, but we can afford to buy what we lack from our allies until we can produce it ourselves.
This is true for all major european countries, even ignoring defence clauses in NATO and the EU. Hence I view all things on a Europe vs Russia scale, as all of europe would be working towards Russia's defeat, even if they were not militarily involved, which they would be.
I ignore the US from this as we cannot guarantee it would not be focussed on South East Asia instead.
When looking at competition with Russia from a Europe vs Russia basis, Russia has 5 distinct advantages: amoured vehicle production, missile production, shell production, nuclear overmatch and autocracy.
Of those only 3 are relevent to this comment:
AFV production (IFVs, APCs, tanks, etc) is largely propped up by burning through soviet stockpiles and is a temporary advantage at best.
Missile production is an area of geniune concern. Russia is to my knowledge relatively even with europe and seems to be picking up speed. This is easy for europe to fix by just putting in more orders for missiles though, as I am confident most production lines are not running at full capacity.
Shell production is a major problem. Russia is currently outproducing not just Europe but the entire west (can't remember if that figure includes RoK). Under current plans, things should even out by 2026 but that relies on Europe actually investing in and building quickly enough new production lines, which it seems to be struggling to do.
Anyway, all that is to say, Russia's only real production advantage is in shell production, which it is genuinely winning in and currently by a large degree. But that alone is not enough to claim Europe would be outproduced by Russia generally.
This seems to have turned into a rant so sorry about that, but I hope it explained my point.
best 48 mins of the evening.
"Crap in a hat!" is now my new favorite phrase .
That was a BRILLIANT fight. Well done.
This is highly unrealistic. The AK doesn't go anywhere without a tug boat to bring it home 😂
One of the best fleet battles that you've uploaded!
Will u test Russian S 500, maybe with C.H mods? Great video.
Is that even real? I thought the S400 and S350 were the best
@@christopherchartier3017Yeah it's been awhile since it was introduced, a whole regiment worth of em, son of the S-300V series.
Yeh will do but not priority ATM.
s500 is a pure ABM system and has no real use against aircraft
Yeah right, the mythical S500😂😂 probably an s300 that they repainted and stuck a couple widgets on to it to make it look different. And yet Russia still can't defend its own airspace😂😂😂
Why would the returning Lightnings not help out the other Lightnings engaging the Flankers?
DCS
Oh god yes, thank you!
You mis classified the Admiral Kluznetov as it's a submarine in reality as it lived mostly under water ;-)
Lovely video Cap. But, you forgot to mention how the Russian carrier is essentially sunk prior to the battle hah. ❤
Important to point out that the Admiral Kuznetsov has a bunch of VLS cells in its flight deck, which would be a huge liability if it got hit by even a very small warhead like those of the SPEAR-3, which is a weakness not shared by western carriers for obvious reasons.
Sure is nice to live in a country that _doesn't_ have to mine its own CV flight decks to exploit a treaty loophole so they don't end up kneeling before Erdogan as an impotent vassal of the Turks
You forgot to attach the tugboats pulling the Russian carrier.
1:34 don't let the RAF hear that
Why do you always use the Su-33s if they have been retired?
He said at the start, they usually use Mig-29 as the carrier aircraft but Russian viewers complained they wanted a superior performance carrier capable aircraft.
@@watcherzero5256 not his problem, also not "usually" they were all retired a couple of years ago.
But I understand
@@mediador9161 The plan was to retire the 19 remaining Su-33 (of 22 built) in 2015 when they had enough Mig-29K's with 24 ordered for the airwing which started entering service in 2009, but in 2016 after a Su-33 crashed they announced they wouldnt be retired and trsnsferred to Syria instead where they receiving a targeting computer upgrade that year and in 2017 they announced engine refits which started being delivered from 2019 with them to return to the carrier when its refurbishment was complete as the first airwing with the Mig 29K forming the second airwing.
That was awesome ! thanks
I enjoyed it!
Very enjoyable and have subscribed. In reality though no carrier group would be without subs. 😂
Awesome 👌
Entertainment at it's finest Cap well done to all involved, I am fairly certain the Type 26 is very similar if not the same as the new Australian warships coming into service "Hunter class"
"...survived by pure fluke." which is how Britain usually survives.
Once you've survived multiple times by fluke... is it actually a fluke?
“When you fight the British, you are fighting fate itself”
- Napoleon Bonaparte -
(writing from his prison island, where the British placed him in exile, shortly before his death)
Dick head....you hater and clearly got a problem with the UK. Your a TERRORIST SESPECT......C.I.A OR MI5 Need to snach you off the street for a talk. ^^^^*!!
Spear 3 will use a different tachtics - attack from all directions simultaneously. If that works out, even a smaller number will disable the vertical launchers or the radars before any heavy missile arrives. In the end, Brit’s could have fired nsm to finish of the Russian frigates, too
Russian Carrier on fire and belching black smoke.
Standard operating procedure?
24:45 im just one of 90k but im loving these keep doin whatever your doing🎉
One of the Best :)
And I think the word was "Skin of our teeth".
No Nakhimov battlecruiser with zircons?
i love these carrier and battle scenarios. What would be cool to better meet the team and understand your guys aka the Humaniods, to do like a best of 3 tournament between all the guys to understand the hierarchy of pilot's skill when looking at these scenarios. Like Simba, Grump, Cannonball, Matrix, Cap yourself, Killer, Strider, Bird, Poosh. I know I am missing some like our German friend and etc. But it would be cool to see who comes out on top in a dogfight 1v1 tournament style. you could maybe do one at 4th gen and another at 5th and let the pilots pick their airframe and missiles. Like 5th gen everyone will pick the Raptor and AIM 260 but 4th Gen I could see F-15 (120D), F-16 (120D), J-15 (PL-15), Su-35 (R-77), & F-18 (120D) all being used. It is also nice cuz you don't need everyone on at once to do it and can just piece it together at the end in one video. You could even do a battle like this then after the scenario run a couple matchups with who is there and wait till next time so hopefully wouldn't add too much time to what awesome work you already do.
I've watched many videos and It seems each have their moments of brilliant flying but who is the actual Top Gun!
God I love these naval fights. Just out of curiosity, did any of the RUS destroyers get hit at the end?
No, for whatever reason the SPEARS all went for carrier.
The SU-33M is a very interesting concept. It gives the Russian navy F-14 like capability when equipped with the R-77M. Very cool.
Nah, a navalized MiG-31 would fit the F-14 bill a little better, this is more like a naval F-15N
What will they launch off, the backs of giant inflatable ducks?
@@totalNERD-eo7wx my sick brain wants that navalised MiG-31
The Su-33 has been retired so it is no longer worth thinking about improvements
@@andyo8141 Does it make me a bad wooington that I now want to see a battle with giant inflatable ducks?
Best one yet, great work by all involved.
Thanks!
Great video. Love the play by play. Keep them coming.
The Zircon is actually correctly modeled in the game, but not on the thumbnail. It looks really similar to Oniks based on published launch footage and wreckage found in Ukraine. It is also just an upgraded and higher flying Oniks.
It's crazy that 75 nm is short range these days! Without airborne radar, that's double the detection range of surface ships. So any fleet without fighter protection will have no chance to stop the UK's F-35B's. IMO, that makes the UK small ASM a brilliant idea.
Best telly watch not on the telly
Çould the antiship F-35's have carried air to air missiles as well? Is it possible in DCS for tell them to fire antiship missiles and then go air to air?
Super unrealistic...the Russian boats need tugs to move anywhere hahaha
The spear 3 is a jab, the spear 5 is a right hook. Very smart thinking.
Long Awaited U.S. Carrier Fleet VS Russian Carrier Fleet 3rd Rematch! Obviously Kuznetsov Carrier. I personally think keep The MIG-29KR's for Air-Air and The SU-33M's for Anti-Ship! MIG-29KR's with R-77M's and SU-33M's with Kinzhal's! 5 Gorshkov Frigates and 1 Slava Cruiser for the Lols! The U.S. Ford Class Carrier, 2 Arleigh Burke's, 2 Constellation Frigates*, and 2 Ticonderoga's! F/A-18F's with AIM-260's and F-35C's* with Mako's!🙏👍
Someone wants Cap to make a YT shorts 😂😂
Super exciting mission!! DCS with AI v AI is so much fun.
Dragon fire?
10:55 there is a picture of an intercepted one but idk if that's enough to make a 3d model of
Could the anti shippers not turned in to use their guns after launching? I wonder if that would have made things easier for thr brits