UPDATE : Folks tell me that here in the UK (and other parts of the world) Ethanol is more usually called Methylated Spirits. Now that is good news for us UK dwellers as Meths IS cheaper than IPA, giving Bluecast X One another advantage over other resins 😁
I had the same problem in reverse. :D I kept hearing people talk about methylated spirits in videos and didn't know what that is in Germany since we just call it "burning spirit" (directly translated) I guess people get all mythological about booze. :D Probably from standing too close to the still and inhaling the fumes.
Just be careful the mix of Meths as it can cause adverse effects. This is why Ethanol 99.9% is preferred but most resins can be cleaned in meths/ipa/ethanol
My favorite resin! I use it a lot for large and complex sports rings with heavy lettering and areas for enameling. Couple suggestions: You put a glass bottle into your sonic cleaner. Glass will reduce the sonic action because it is thick and hard. Find yourself a thin plastic container to use in the sonic bath. I use red solo cups and don't worry about the lid. Cleaning is much more complete and faster. Next, do a pre-sonic dip in some ethanol before going into the sonic. This will get the bulk of the uncured resin off. So you will basically have a "dirty" container and a "cleaner" container. The one that goes in the sonic cleaner can be reused multiple times. For supports, you are making too big a deal of it. I use lychee medium almost 100% with the exception of a few thin or heavy's as needed. I have NO issues. This leads me to believe your exposure time is too low. Try bumping it up a little. I'm happy to send you some pictures if you like with some very tiny areas with very tiny supports.
That's exactly how I clean my prints. Initial dunk into a "dirty" pre-rinse, then into some cleaner stuff in a plastic container in the sonic. When the sonic alcohol gets dirty, it goes into the pre-rinse container. When it finally gets full, or I run out of clean alcohol, I deal with the dirty stuff. It really saves on the alcohol since the bulk of the uncured resin gets rinsed off in the pre-rinse, making the second wash alcohol last longer before getting too "dirty".
Hello Friend,Alright ? So from these 3 resins which do you prefer for details and casting. I use for jewelry. bluecast x-one Resinworks wax 200 Siraya Tech
Going to have to check this out for my sister's jewelry casting. 🤔 I like the color-change aspect; An indication of post-processing 'doneness' is a great idea, especially when the change is so dramatic. I feel like it's a concept that could stand to see more use.
The reason you struggle to find denatured alcohol in the UK is that it's called methylated spirits here and it has purple dye in it. Other than the purple colour it's the same stuff.
Haha! Great video Geoff! Denatured alcohol is called Methylated Spirits here in Oz and it's as cheap as chips! Far easier to get in bulk and much cheaper than IPA. I think the colour change when it's ready and the final hue (white) is fantastic. So it looks like you've found my casting resin! Thanks Geoff!
Can you do a video on more engineering/functional casting with resin 3D prints? Maybe with aluminium, and things like gears or testing of tolerances of holes and features in the final castings. So we can consider if it is viable to 3D print and cast engineering parts on a hobby level rather than CNC machining it on a hobby CNC machine.
Also very interested in casting engineering parts, i'm going to try it with lost PLA casting with my ender3 v2 but I'm thinking to also buy a resin 3d printer, mainly to cast things
is there any percentage specific for this alcohol or I can use a 70% gallon that I have already and why the official site says that you can also use IPA?
My prints are not turning white completely after curing in IPA (Ultrasonic cleaner) and air blowing, is it only suggested to be cleaned in ethanol? Awaiting kind response.
Without a doubt, X1 is far superior to X10. X1 was designed with home grade printers in mind whereas X10 was an industrial product sold on to home users.
hi everyone I am just start working with x one and a question is about supports on model,when and how the best way take it off supports from model,before cleaning or after cleaning,just breaking them or gently trying to cut thems. thanks
You'll get different answer from different folks 😁 Personally I clip away supports. When you tear away, there's a high probability of damaging the print. Even though the damage is small, it can show through in the finished casting. I prefer to clip, leaving a tiny nub behind. This I then gently sand away with very fine sand paper before casting.
I do both. I wash after it comes off the plate, remove the supports, then wash again to remove all the resin that was stuck behind the supports. It works well. Just no more than a minute or two 😁
No, nothing special for this resin. It likes to be warm, around 25C. Filter it, clean everything down, level your plate. Then check your settings with those on the Bluecast website. It's a nice easy resin to work with 😁
Wow on the ethanol! here in Australia its called methylated spirits and 4lt cost $15aud, ipa for us or me anyways on the other hand cost us between $10 and $20 a lt! i use methylated spirits in my wash and cure and so far it seems to work well.
Hi sorry it's me again, i have a question about the burnout cycles. its a totall of 11 hours of run time per burnout which is a long time to have such a power hungry piece of equipment running. Do you know much it costs in electricity per burnout?
@@vogman hahah is your electricity bill high by any chance? 😂 Im in the process of setting up a casting shop and have a large 14" by 14" burnout furnace coming, gonna be interesting to see what the leccy meter does 😂
I've never heard anyone say, "Electricity is sooooo cheap." It costs, but so do gas bottles or charcoal, etc. The convenience of electricity wins for me, so I genuinely don't want to start fretting about the costs. That's why I make my wife pay the bill 😁😁😁
I have no idea why I can't print and cast, when I tried x one I got bad texture and all the type on the design was filled with sterling. I did exactly as the manufacturer instructed.
@@vogman The detectorists. Great brit comedy drama about a group of metal detectorists near Essex. They find a few of those Roman coins. Highly recommended.
@@vogman worth just testing first (in case it does damage) but as far as I understand, meths (in the UK) is the same alcohol; just with additives to make it purple, and make it unpleasant to drink. The purple colouring doesn't affect shellac (even blonde flakes) so I assume it'll probably be OK.
Just out of curiosity, how come you aren't using flex plates on the printer? I know it doesn't affect the quality and the scratches probably help with adhesion, just found it interesting
@@vogman 😄 true, if you are keeping the resin in the printer though, it's quicker to clean and snap back in, nah was just curious, i use lots of the Esun Tough and that can break anything you pry it off with if it doesn't let go immediately, that's why i got my flex plate for the Mono X
You can get denatured ethanol quite cheaply, search for bioethanol or methylated spirits (the solution you have there is spiked with methanol to stop numpties drinking it).
Thanks for the review! It'd be interesting to hear your thoughts on this resin vs. Siraya Tech Cast, given that Cast is considerably cheaper and, from what I've seen, casts and prints just as well.
This is an excellent resin that has only two drawbacks when comparing with ST (which I haven't). One, as you say, is cost... ST is cheaper. Two, it's more fiddly to print with. Thick supports are a must for X1 and that means a lot more clean up of the print / cast. But ST is happy with thin supports. The only other factor is printing quality and those I haven't compared yet 😁
you don't need a bunch of heavy supports. if you exposure time is good, mediums (lychee) are fine. it's expensive as hell. thats the drawback. but if you have a part that nothing else will cast, x-one will. its a fantastic tool to have in your arsenal. it's all about the right resin for the job at hand. no one resin will do everything.
Cocoa's happy today as Rezin's at the vets, so he's not harassing her and she's getting all the treats and attention to herself. We've been a little worried about Rezin as he's lazy with his back legs, waddling a bit. So he was having Xrays on his hips. Thankfully we've just had a call to say he's absolutely fine with no dysplasia, etc, so it's just normal clumsy legs as he's still only 9 months old.
For just ordinary printing, it would be too expensive to use this. I agree it prints very nicely, but it's expensive because it's used for metal casting. Two resins that print great are Phrozen 4K Aqua and Siraya Tech Fast. Those are much cheaper options for good old, ordinary printing 😁 Actually I used ST Fast in last weeks video... ruclips.net/video/ozMv-i0xxXY/видео.html
@@vogman Is there anything on the resin front. I know DLP is a thing. DLP resin seems like a scan when you reviewed it. Is there any chemists that is actually improving resin for upcoming products?
I didnt know you could do such a thing with resin printing! Now it makes more sense when people say they use resin printers to make jewelry 😂 I always thought they were just leaving the final product as a resin
Dunno what your drinkable alcohol situation is in the UK, but ethanol is what is in your beer and wine and spirits. So just find something that's 180proof+. Round the US That's usually something like Everclear.
So what you're suggesting is that I do a world tour testing drinkable alcoholic beverages. Well that sounds like a tough job, but I'd be willing to give it a go 😁
@@vogman I think that's mostly because pure ethanol can be used to make alcoholic beverages. Methylated spirits have stuff added to make them taste so bad you could never drink it. Then taxes etc. don't apply and make it cheaper.
I love how this prints, but I also love my thin supports. Genuinely in my tiny venture into X One printing, I've had more failed prints than I've had collectively with Cast. This shows you how careful you need to be with supports.
Yes, it's a real drawback and a common issue with Bluecasts resins. CR3A is the same. This really is a pity. Bluecast has worked hard here and I applaud their efforts... but it's just a little short of perfect for me.
I know Stuart is expanding his empire and doing even more exciting things, as well as selling Bluecast it seems. You can find him at pro3dshop.com these days. 😁😁😁
I don't think this resin exists any longer. 😞 I'm trying to find something similar for higher detail jewelry. I like that this is non toxic, and doesn't have a ridiculous clean up process with veg oil. Can you or anyone recommend something similar?
@@vogman I am dumb, I searched for the wrong thing. I ended up finding it! I have some designs with extremely fine details, would the x-one resin be acceptable, or should I spend the extra money for the more expensive resins? I'm having a hard time deciding on which resin to get for casting with my Photon Mono 4k
woah, that intro was a bit..harsh...also how does this not have any comments yet? lol at the " I do love that blueccast is toxic...pause...and carcinoegenic free"
Harsh? Really? I never intended to be. I've always admired the way Bluecast responded well to criticism. I think that says a lot about them. Companies that listen keep their customers 😁
UPDATE : Folks tell me that here in the UK (and other parts of the world) Ethanol is more usually called Methylated Spirits. Now that is good news for us UK dwellers as Meths IS cheaper than IPA, giving Bluecast X One another advantage over other resins 😁
I had the same problem in reverse. :D I kept hearing people talk about methylated spirits in videos and didn't know what that is in Germany since we just call it "burning spirit" (directly translated) I guess people get all mythological about booze. :D Probably from standing too close to the still and inhaling the fumes.
Hahaha phrasing.
Just be careful the mix of Meths as it can cause adverse effects. This is why Ethanol 99.9% is preferred but most resins can be cleaned in meths/ipa/ethanol
Thanks for another interesting video.
You might want to think about pinning this update about Methylated Spirits.
My favorite resin! I use it a lot for large and complex sports rings with heavy lettering and areas for enameling. Couple suggestions: You put a glass bottle into your sonic cleaner. Glass will reduce the sonic action because it is thick and hard. Find yourself a thin plastic container to use in the sonic bath. I use red solo cups and don't worry about the lid. Cleaning is much more complete and faster. Next, do a pre-sonic dip in some ethanol before going into the sonic. This will get the bulk of the uncured resin off. So you will basically have a "dirty" container and a "cleaner" container. The one that goes in the sonic cleaner can be reused multiple times. For supports, you are making too big a deal of it. I use lychee medium almost 100% with the exception of a few thin or heavy's as needed. I have NO issues. This leads me to believe your exposure time is too low. Try bumping it up a little. I'm happy to send you some pictures if you like with some very tiny areas with very tiny supports.
That's exactly how I clean my prints. Initial dunk into a "dirty" pre-rinse, then into some cleaner stuff in a plastic container in the sonic. When the sonic alcohol gets dirty, it goes into the pre-rinse container. When it finally gets full, or I run out of clean alcohol, I deal with the dirty stuff. It really saves on the alcohol since the bulk of the uncured resin gets rinsed off in the pre-rinse, making the second wash alcohol last longer before getting too "dirty".
Hello Friend,Alright ?
So from these 3 resins which do you prefer for details and casting. I use for jewelry.
bluecast x-one
Resinworks wax 200
Siraya Tech
Going to have to check this out for my sister's jewelry casting. 🤔 I like the color-change aspect; An indication of post-processing 'doneness' is a great idea, especially when the change is so dramatic. I feel like it's a concept that could stand to see more use.
Yes, two colour changes is cool. 😁😁😁
The reason you struggle to find denatured alcohol in the UK is that it's called methylated spirits here and it has purple dye in it. Other than the purple colour it's the same stuff.
Yes, my ignorance strikes again. Thanks for putting me right - and helping others find the product more cheaply 😁😁😁👍👍👍
I can use methylated spirits? I have a load of that stuff….Yay!
Thanks a lot for the accurate review. Really helpful for all the customers.
It's an excellent product, my favourite Bluecast so far. I thoroughly enjoyed using it 😁
Haha! Great video Geoff! Denatured alcohol is called Methylated Spirits here in Oz and it's as cheap as chips! Far easier to get in bulk and much cheaper than IPA. I think the colour change when it's ready and the final hue (white) is fantastic. So it looks like you've found my casting resin! Thanks Geoff!
You caught me just adding an update about that. I've got bottles of the purple stuff knocking around. I'll have to try it.
Take care buddy 😁
Can you do a video on more engineering/functional casting with resin 3D prints? Maybe with aluminium, and things like gears or testing of tolerances of holes and features in the final castings. So we can consider if it is viable to 3D print and cast engineering parts on a hobby level rather than CNC machining it on a hobby CNC machine.
I'd be interested in this as well.
Also very interested in casting engineering parts, i'm going to try it with lost PLA casting with my ender3 v2 but I'm thinking to also buy a resin 3d printer, mainly to cast things
is there any percentage specific for this alcohol or I can use a 70% gallon that I have already and why the official site says that you can also use IPA?
My prints are not turning white completely after curing in IPA (Ultrasonic cleaner) and air blowing, is it only suggested to be cleaned in ethanol?
Awaiting kind response.
I believe the quality of the ethanol is important, with a minimum of 91%. The purer the better I think.
Thanks for the review. I'm still in the market to over time start printing my own castable items and this review does really help!
Glad it was helpful!
@vogman did you have the chance to test X-ONE v2?
What do you think of bluecast xone v2
Which investment did you use? Plasticast?
hello, please tell me what settings to print in the asiga printer
Sorry, you need to talk to Bluecast for that 😁
Hi, do you still have the "ultra"? I d like to see comparisons made on "the machine of the future".
I'll be doing lots more printing on the Ultra 😁
@@vogman lovely
What will happen if I use IPA to clean them ?
Not sure if it's available in the UK but look for the grain ethanol "Everclear"
Though it might be easier to find a 95%+ Vodka
Is this much better than the x10 with the sharpenizer? Thank you for your time and the Review!!
Without a doubt, X1 is far superior to X10. X1 was designed with home grade printers in mind whereas X10 was an industrial product sold on to home users.
hi everyone I am just start working with x one and a question is about supports on model,when and how the best way take it off supports from model,before cleaning or after cleaning,just breaking them or gently trying to cut thems. thanks
You'll get different answer from different folks 😁
Personally I clip away supports. When you tear away, there's a high probability of damaging the print. Even though the damage is small, it can show through in the finished casting. I prefer to clip, leaving a tiny nub behind. This I then gently sand away with very fine sand paper before casting.
Thank you very much for answer. just one more thing,you take them off before washing or after?
I do both. I wash after it comes off the plate, remove the supports, then wash again to remove all the resin that was stuck behind the supports. It works well. Just no more than a minute or two 😁
Great,thank you very much
I'd like to place stones into my 3d prints and cast the stones in place. Can you recommend a printable wax or resin that can be used for this?
What printer do you use to produce beautiful products?
To clean up some of the support issues, could resin be used and a uv flashlight?
Probably, yes, though I like using a spot of wax as this can be overfilled and then scraped back 😁
do I need special preparation and resin before use? I tried to print and I didn't succeed, the resin had some lumps
No, nothing special for this resin. It likes to be warm, around 25C. Filter it, clean everything down, level your plate. Then check your settings with those on the Bluecast website. It's a nice easy resin to work with 😁
X-one is the best resin i ever used, i only hoped that you make your review with the Photon Ultra DLP.
There's still time. I may well do just that 😁
Would like this one too
Wow on the ethanol! here in Australia its called methylated spirits and 4lt cost $15aud, ipa for us or me anyways on the other hand cost us between $10 and $20 a lt! i use methylated spirits in my wash and cure and so far it seems to work well.
Ah... you may have taught me something there... I didn't realise Meths and ethanol were one in the same. In that case, it's cheaper here too...
What selling would you use if using a Elegoo Mars 3?
*Settings* Excuse me.
These videos really make me want to try out casting.
It's a great hobby. Very practical and fun. You can also earn a little money from it too, if that floats your boat 😁
Another great video! Thanks for sharing!!
Thanks for watching!
Hi sorry it's me again, i have a question about the burnout cycles. its a totall of 11 hours of run time per burnout which is a long time to have such a power hungry piece of equipment running. Do you know much it costs in electricity per burnout?
No... I never look 😁
@@vogman hahah is your electricity bill high by any chance? 😂 Im in the process of setting up a casting shop and have a large 14" by 14" burnout furnace coming, gonna be interesting to see what the leccy meter does 😂
I've never heard anyone say, "Electricity is sooooo cheap."
It costs, but so do gas bottles or charcoal, etc.
The convenience of electricity wins for me, so I genuinely don't want to start fretting about the costs. That's why I make my wife pay the bill 😁😁😁
@@vogman yeah I'm in a different situation as im running a business so cost is important.
Hi,
Did you use the Mars printer for this resin, I have the 1st mars printer. Will it work with that?
This reason will work fine in the Mars. Bluecast has settings available for Elegoo printers 😁
I have no idea why I can't print and cast, when I tried x one I got bad texture and all the type on the design was filled with sterling. I did exactly as the manufacturer instructed.
Great work as always, VOG. Lance and Andy would surely do a little dance if they detectorated that Roman coin.
You've lost me with Lance and Andy... sorry 😁
@@vogman The detectorists. Great brit comedy drama about a group of metal detectorists near Essex. They find a few of those Roman coins. Highly recommended.
I must look out for it 😁
Great review as usual, interested to see how it compares to siraya tech cast also, as i like to use light supports myself especially for casting
Well... I like thin supports too, so I think you'll be seeing plenty of purple in my future 😁
In the UK, isn't methylated spirits the same as denatured alcohol? Certainly from the point of view of mixing shellac it's fine.
Yes, denaturing is a catch-all term for making ethanol undrinkable, this includes methylated spirits
I didn't know this. That makes a massive difference. Meths is cheaper than IPA - yippee!!! 😁😁😁
@@vogman worth just testing first (in case it does damage) but as far as I understand, meths (in the UK) is the same alcohol; just with additives to make it purple, and make it unpleasant to drink. The purple colouring doesn't affect shellac (even blonde flakes) so I assume it'll probably be OK.
At this point I'm sticking with Siriya tech got a heap of that left to use
Hope it's still working well for you 😁
@@vogman it may or may not have shelf life issues but I'm still determining that
Do you like this one more then the seratek castable resin?
I prefer the colour of Bluecast, but I like thin supports, and Siraya Tech gives me those.
What do you do with the resin after it has melted out of the mold?
there's nothing left. during the 3rd stage of the burnout, the wax or resins are vaporized.
Just out of curiosity, how come you aren't using flex plates on the printer? I know it doesn't affect the quality and the scratches probably help with adhesion, just found it interesting
For me, flex plates are just one more thing to clean 😁
@@vogman 😄 true, if you are keeping the resin in the printer though, it's quicker to clean and snap back in, nah was just curious, i use lots of the Esun Tough and that can break anything you pry it off with if it doesn't let go immediately, that's why i got my flex plate for the Mono X
You can get denatured ethanol quite cheaply, search for bioethanol or methylated spirits (the solution you have there is spiked with methanol to stop numpties drinking it).
A couple of others have pointed this out. I'm pleased to learn something new, and it is cheaper than IPA so that's great 😁
Thanks for the review! It'd be interesting to hear your thoughts on this resin vs. Siraya Tech Cast, given that Cast is considerably cheaper and, from what I've seen, casts and prints just as well.
This is an excellent resin that has only two drawbacks when comparing with ST (which I haven't). One, as you say, is cost... ST is cheaper. Two, it's more fiddly to print with. Thick supports are a must for X1 and that means a lot more clean up of the print / cast. But ST is happy with thin supports. The only other factor is printing quality and those I haven't compared yet 😁
you don't need a bunch of heavy supports. if you exposure time is good, mediums (lychee) are fine. it's expensive as hell. thats the drawback. but if you have a part that nothing else will cast, x-one will. its a fantastic tool to have in your arsenal. it's all about the right resin for the job at hand. no one resin will do everything.
Thanks for Sharing!
Thanks Craig 😁
4:34 - Love me some ALDI.
It's got to be Aldi 😁
Great Review as always!! How are CoCo and Rezin doing? 👍😁
Cocoa's happy today as Rezin's at the vets, so he's not harassing her and she's getting all the treats and attention to herself. We've been a little worried about Rezin as he's lazy with his back legs, waddling a bit. So he was having Xrays on his hips. Thankfully we've just had a call to say he's absolutely fine with no dysplasia, etc, so it's just normal clumsy legs as he's still only 9 months old.
I hope you compare it to the 4k resin. It looks the best at least from someone who never 3d printed and watched pictures.
For just ordinary printing, it would be too expensive to use this. I agree it prints very nicely, but it's expensive because it's used for metal casting. Two resins that print great are Phrozen 4K Aqua and Siraya Tech Fast. Those are much cheaper options for good old, ordinary printing 😁
Actually I used ST Fast in last weeks video... ruclips.net/video/ozMv-i0xxXY/видео.html
@@vogman Is there anything on the resin front. I know DLP is a thing. DLP resin seems like a scan when you reviewed it. Is there any chemists that is actually improving resin for upcoming products?
I didnt know you could do such a thing with resin printing! Now it makes more sense when people say they use resin printers to make jewelry 😂 I always thought they were just leaving the final product as a resin
Dunno what your drinkable alcohol situation is in the UK, but ethanol is what is in your beer and wine and spirits. So just find something that's 180proof+. Round the US That's usually something like Everclear.
So what you're suggesting is that I do a world tour testing drinkable alcoholic beverages. Well that sounds like a tough job, but I'd be willing to give it a go 😁
I think in the UK it's called Methylated Spirits? :D That should be available more easily.
I didn't know this. That makes a massive difference. Meths is cheaper than IPA - yippee!!! 😁😁😁
@@vogman I think that's mostly because pure ethanol can be used to make alcoholic beverages. Methylated spirits have stuff added to make them taste so bad you could never drink it. Then taxes etc. don't apply and make it cheaper.
Hmmm, but will this be your new go to resin? or are we sticking with purple stuff?
I love how this prints, but I also love my thin supports. Genuinely in my tiny venture into X One printing, I've had more failed prints than I've had collectively with Cast. This shows you how careful you need to be with supports.
that contact point requirement is a killer for me, that would ruin many of my prints even with careful orientation :(
Yes, it's a real drawback and a common issue with Bluecasts resins. CR3A is the same. This really is a pity. Bluecast has worked hard here and I applaud their efforts... but it's just a little short of perfect for me.
@@vogman so what's a better choice?
I haven't tested side by side, but my initial thoughts would be ST is easier to print with, costs less and casts well.
Is bluecast jewellery in the uk no longer trading? Their website seems to say so. Do you know where to get this in the UK now?
I know Stuart is expanding his empire and doing even more exciting things, as well as selling Bluecast it seems. You can find him at pro3dshop.com these days. 😁😁😁
I don't think this resin exists any longer. 😞 I'm trying to find something similar for higher detail jewelry. I like that this is non toxic, and doesn't have a ridiculous clean up process with veg oil.
Can you or anyone recommend something similar?
I'm not aware of X1 going out of production. But another excellent, easy use castable resin is Easycast 200 ruclips.net/video/CeBn__K_XNA/видео.html
@@vogman I am dumb, I searched for the wrong thing. I ended up finding it!
I have some designs with extremely fine details, would the x-one resin be acceptable, or should I spend the extra money for the more expensive resins?
I'm having a hard time deciding on which resin to get for casting with my Photon Mono 4k
Cool
Many thanks 😁
woah, that intro was a bit..harsh...also how does this not have any comments yet? lol at the " I do love that blueccast is toxic...pause...and carcinoegenic free"
Harsh? Really? I never intended to be. I've always admired the way Bluecast responded well to criticism. I think that says a lot about them. Companies that listen keep their customers 😁
@@vogman there was a rather severe audio popin on my side.
Really? I'm not hearing it, though I do use headphones...
First comment ever. Yay! Pity the video wont open.
Try now. It should be working for you 😁
First comment is mine!
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*less viscous
Did I say more more viscous? Dear, dear, dear... 😁😁😁
A donkey. Lions balls. A microwave. Lol.
Sounds like an average weekend in my house 😁😁😁
First... huehue.
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