Hey Angels! Enjoy today's video and buckle up because we've got several other zoom calls coming soon because there's a little "online" training event being organized!
@@bellezanegra0206 I totally think it’s because numbers are down. There’s like 6 zoom calls of “major training” coming up and they’re getting as many people on it reviewing stuff. I think they’re doing everything they can rn 😂
@@bellezanegra0206 Training is a great chance for thr leaders to get their ego stroked & brag about themselves by telling their stories! It's also a wonderful time to spout meaningless cliches masquerading as business tools & preach self development whilst telling the down lines they just need to manifest!
I love when they talk about taking time off when they're sick but they're always on these calls like, "Sorry I sound like this. I just worked 95 hours with pneumonia." Really living the dream!
It feels like every single call is a damage control call. "Everything is okay" "we are growing" "don't look other way". Who are you trying to convince? The team or yourself? So sad 😔
it's amazing that they just use buzzwords when they make no sense. being a nurse is generally considered to be "a dream" that you fulfill. working as a nurse at a hospital or clinic or school isnt fulfilling someone elses dream, it's fulfilling an important societal service. i just
that whole argument of "selling something everyone needs" - people won't stop washing their hair but they *will* stop buying expensive shampoo because there are a lot cheaper out there...
Also as someone who *does* occasionally splurge on high end hair care - I'll choose a brand that DOESN'T burn my scalp and make my hair fall out, thank you.
@@deltasaves They are the same people that say if you have no money for bills & are struggling financially the solution is to spend a minimum of $200 for the opportunity to join the 95+% who lose money!
Medical also. People will always get sick and need a doctor and will always need a dentist. This beauty stuff tanks so often. I’m glad I have the stability of knowing if I had to move or lost my job I have a degree to find one elsewhere and back me up.
In my family, no one really knew what an MLM was, but we were told to avoid “shady” companies. That’s how my grandma described Avon, Amway, etc. - “shady.” Even though there was no real dialogue surrounding these companies back in the day, a lot of folks knew to avoid them. They knew intuitively that something wasn’t right.
They're trying to play both sides of the fence when they talk about their "fame" as a brand. Both "The number one hair care company in the world, celebrities use it, OMG it's so well known!" and "People haven't heard of Monat yet, there are still so many people you can recruit, it's a ground floor opportunity!" UGH.
Same with the "free time" thing "I'm a business owner so I control my hours, this lets me have free time and raise my kids" but also "you have to WORK there are no excuses I worked with my newborn baby 18 hours a day strapped to my chest uphill both ways trekking through snow barefoot!"
Everyone keep your eye out for an mlm horror story video about a server who was harassed by her boss's girlfriend when she was just trying to do her job 🙄🙄🙄🙄
They are either delusional or just plain lying (I think we all know which one it is) when they constantly say that even in a recession where no one can afford anything, barely even being able to buy food, Monat won’t be affected because shampoo is a necessity to everyone. When people start struggling financially the FIRST thing that goes is extremely expensive products that aren’t necessary when you can get something from Walmart for $5 instead.. Sure people will still need to wash their hair but they will go to an affordable option instead 🙄
there actually was a phenomenon during the 2008 recession where high-end cosmetics was one of the few industries to remain relatively stable, but those were real reputable brands that actually produce a higher-quality product, not some basic overpriced mlm garbage. bc let’s be real, just bc their shampoo is $84 a bottle or whatever doesn’t mean it’s actually worth that! it’s an average product at best and harmful to users at worst.
on top of that, many people chase after (for example) shampoo that aids their specific hair type. i have to use special specific shampoos because my hair gets greasy/oily quickly, and i have natural curls/wavy hair, AND my hair gets dried out easily. and yet i can find a good shampoo at walmart that helps my hair more than a $75 bottle of shampoo💀
I literally had a conversation this weekend with some friends about MLMs. None of them had herd of them, yet turns out one had a sister in beach body. They just thought their sister was annoying and always dieting.
When I was a kid I did not know either!! Back then Tupperware and Avon where popular. My mom tried selling Tupperware, I remember the home parties. They were good containers back then!! My aunt was in Avon for a time.
@@anij80 Yes, my mom still has some Tupperware today from the early '80s!! Unfortunately they just don't make them like they used to and they're not good anymore. My mom uses those old Tupperware for junk now as she has evolved to the KonMari method and transformed her kitchen into everything minimal, glass and bamboo. She's going plastic free. 🤙🏾
When people don't have money for food, they for sure wont go for overpriced product! They will go for the cheapest possible option and for sure there is plenty.
I can’t stand the “recession proof” argument specifically with Monat. Sure, people are probably still going to wash their hair. But, a) NOT with $$$ shampoo, and b) not purchase in the volume needed for their allure of financial “freedom”.
She really said “let’s focus on the bigger picture” …. She’s the only one that gets paid on those numbers???? Not those people on that call It’s so sad that none of them see that. I’m an ex monat girly and getting bitched at on these calls is what woke me up, when I realized the SEDs are the ones living lavishly off of everyone else working their ass off and still feeling like they’re failing
I used to work with monat and it was awful. I actually liked the skin care but the hair care is SO heavy. I can happily say I seen the red flags and left months ago. wish I would have seen the red flags before getting involved but oh well I guess🤣
This young, healthy attractive lady thinks it is a flex to say “working a 12 hour shift” was humbling to her? There’s this saying ~ there are 2 types of people in the world, those who are humble and those who are about to be humbled
The whole Upline/downline thing is bizarre. There's literally none of that in a corporate job. These team calls are damage control because they know they aren't doing enough to keep the people in their team.
Jo and Bianca are the definition of mean girls. Almost three years ago I was a many down lines under them (I was only in monat actively for 3 months and stopped after until my membership ran out). These calls were always required to attend and if you didn’t attend you’d get talked down to. They are full of shit and rude af
i’ve never tried to start my own business but watching my ex struggle and stay broke i’ll say that “i can’t work for someone else” is NOT a sign that you should work for yourself (or pretend to in an mlm). how tf are you gonna expect employees to perform well if you don’t even know what that looks like for yourself?
@@FelixMateoThatsFelix lol it was months ago a few anti MLM creators did videos on it but the only one that comes to mind is “Mack attack” his video about it was hilarious 🤣🤣
Thank you for calling out the constant disparagement of those who choose to not start or own their own business and still enjoy the work they do. That's millions of people they are insulting.
“When you think you’re going through your worst times or your worst days, someone is literally in the glow up, living their best life, THEIR BUSINESS IS EXPLODING… everything is thriving, so it’s just perspective.” Yes, the uplines businesses are “exploding” from the financial and labor exploitation of those below. That’s the “persepctive,” pyramid down view.
That is not a flex having a baby and still working the entire time!! Also your analysis of the setup of their call was spot on!!! Very insightful it was amazing
Have you seen the women literally working in the hosp a few hours after giving birth? If that isnt bad enough the video of someone on their laptop while in labour?
I wonder what these people think will happen if we all quit and join them? Who’s stocking the food shelves / teaching / caring , looking after them on their trips ? It makes no sense at all
Have these women never been poor? I grew up poor, and still washed my hair, but with the cheapest option watered down to last longer. I'm fortunate to not be there as an adult, but you never forget that. And while I splurge a bit on my hair, I will absolutely return to those roots if needed.
When she said that people won't stop washing their hair because of the recession my only though was "yeah, but who's going to buy overpriced meh shampoo"?
Basically what they are saying is if you work for someone else you OBVIOUSLY aren’t working hard and trying your best like you would be if you were an entrepreneur (AKA working for YOURSELF). This way of thinking shows me everything I need to know about them as a person..
godddd every time i see super hard working huns like this i want to tell them about digital marketing, virtual assistants etc. They’re all remote, not a 9-5 and would pay them well!
I have been in the beauty industry 12+ years. I say that to say what products people use comes up OFTEN both personally and professionally and when I tell you I do not know a SINGLE soul that uses Monat and doesn't sell it. 💀... So I am definitely side eyeing that "70% ...." statistic
They are so confused. On one hand they talk about having all the time to spend with their families then in the next breath it is all about working and working and working. At least I get the nights and weekends off in my 9-5.
Is that poor girl confused? How did she make it through nursing school and get a job and not realize that being a nurse means you are working for other people????
Jessie Lee Ward on a Zoom said she checks her peoples accounts and if they have money they need to spend it on training because it makes them hungier to work harder...😢😅
I was in a MLM called LOB all i will say is that i ended up in debt, i was ridiculed for getting annoyed when nobody was supporting me back, i had a team leader tell me to kms for speaking out about her being nasty about other team leaders to me and honestly they were so rude when they made the mistake of putting my payments details in wrong. I realised when i saw how i was being treated because i was always honest
Is she kidding? People pivot all the time? Nokia was NOT a phone company at first. Lego did not sell bricks from the word go. Sony sold rice cookers! Realising that something is failing and making a change is smart. Staying when something is failing is dumb as hell.
I don’t understand how these down lines continue to sit on these calls where the same information and “success stories” are constantly regurgitated, like multiple times a week….
Ugh! I hate when they say I was unhappy/miserable at my job. I get it. But, like you say soooo many times, most people can’t work a full time side hustle, while working full time/taking care of kids. I am the main provider for my family since my husband has some health issues and had to quit his job several years ago. He does work from home now but doesn’t make nearly as much as he used too. I have a son who’s in school and there is absolutely no way I could even find 30 minutes a day to do this. I have a few health issues myself and any extra time I have I sleep lol. I know they would call me “lazy” and I don’t care. I laugh because I work far less than they do at my 8-5 and when I get off work I’m done. I love your videos!!! I have been binge watching them all!
It’s sooo embarrassing that these leaders think they own a business. The only thing they do once they get a huge down line is hoping on calls and pretending to be motivational speakers. Omg it’s infuriating how they reel vulnerable people in.
Let's pretend that 70% of Monat's sales are to legit customers (even though that's probably inflated due to ghost accounts). That means that 30% of sales are to distributors. Can you imagine if Target counted on its employees to spend 3 out of every 10 dollars it brings in? They don't understand how insane that business model is. But then, those at the top don't really care where the money comes from, do they?
YESSSS!!!! This is an INCREDIBLE way to visualise how insane MLMs are structured!!!! Especially considering they don’t even own the business 😅 it’s basically like they’ve brainwashed people into becoming active shareholders that take on 99% of the risk 😅😂 But yes little sheep, ‘own your own business and be your own boss!’
How interesting that she is on the topic of self love and making it a priority and then says you should compare your self, day, and habits of someone else. But true self healing and supportive resources reiterate over and over how toxic that is. It’s okay to have goals but the pressure of it and the way they twist it is so cringy.
my favorite is when she was like “oh my god, I forgot what it was like to work 12 hours and have a 30 minute break” you mean the type of jobs that a lot of people do?
I love your point on how no one knows Monat. I laughed when she kept saying “No one knew who IIII was” like girl… I’m sorry, I didn’t catch your name, who tf are you? I don’t want to be a hater but if they don’t know Monat, of course they won’t know who you are?? Why would they?
The privilege of these girls has to say that during a recession their products are still going to be useful… If someone is missing out on income chances are they’re going to reduce the products they put in their hair or cheap out on some of the expensive products and switch them for more affordable ones until they’re able to get back up and running financially
I'm going to be fully honest and I say that I hate the term "9 to 5" because it makes it sound like the nightmare MLMers portray it to be. I just call it a "regular job."
I’m actually shocked they never followed with the other large teams to either igenius or Q-Sciences! More so now, my personal opinion is that with the several mass exodus Monat has seen in the past several months, it’s going to be HARDER (thank god) to recruit, so I’m sure we’ll continue to see that downward trend (with a steeper slope, a term I’m certain no one in igenius is familiar with 😂) as we saw from the exposed conference with the top leaders a few months back.
"How many times have you stopped doing what you want because of the people you love?" Do you mean like the times when I gave up my relaxing time at home to travel over an hour and a half to visit my sick mum? Or when I gave up my comfy bed to stay with my Aunty whose house had been broken in to, and we were all scared that they might come back?
Well yes I still wash my hair but in a recession I'm not buying their expensive crap. That makes hair fall out & causes sores, rashes, etc.....allegedly...IMO... Umm...no.
An “older” woman!! I am 51 years old, and carry my age very well….this Monet REP is a JOKE! If she only knew how she is representing herself! Oh Isabelle we need to connect! I have some deep dives for you with a few MLM companies.
Oh my god, they've expanded into Spain :( I was hoping it wouldn't come out here but it (unfortunately) makes sense since the unemployment is BAD here, especially with the younger crowd
What is "winning"? I need to define winning because I KNOW that we have a different definition from them. Also if your dream is to provide for your family, which is DAMN NEAR impossible in Monat, then wouldn't leaving be "winning"?
Never heard of these people. They’re selling to each other & buying their own products. There’s a way: I used to buy the fundraiser candy I was supposed to sell. I spent $95 & received a $250 check, for being the Top Seller.
It’s so sad to see veronicas live today and how Jo her sister isn’t talking to her since she switched MLMs. That’s how you KNOW Monat is toxic. Like sis that’s your baby freaking sister. Your the bigger sister and you won’t talk to your little sister because she stepped away from something that didn’t make her happy? (obvi to another MLM which is wack) Where’s your integrity? Speaking as a Hispanic like literally that’s your hermana, so upsetting you let something you both succeeded in tear you apart. Familia first. Business second. Period. Monat destroying families out here 🤦🏻🙃 idk there family behind the scenes but attitudes switched like night and day. SMH
I think a lot of people are needing to cut things like ridiculously expensive hair products from their budget right now and this has to be impacting their sales.
As someone who lives in Spain, I remember how Monat came to our market. I saw them everywhere trying to recruit. Now I barely see them really :) also…. This girl’s English is so amazing! Such a rare case for Spain (I’ve been working as an english teacher here since I moved here in 2012 and I’ve only met a bunch of people with that level of English).
Or she’s picking up catering jobs from her boyfriend since her paycheck is taking such a huge hit from her downlines leaving, and someone tagged her in a picture working it and she wanted to make sure she’s framing it in a way that it doesn’t look like she needs a second job to make a living wage…
“It’s go at your own pace” “It’s not hard” See also: *I work my ass off nearly to death til I cry at 2am* It’s a mindfuck that she’s using the idea that it’s an “easy” “at your own pace” business that you own to justify trying to basically turn her downlines into glorified MLM slaves…….
25:07 : it looks like she is praying or affirming, trying to brainwash herself.. and downlines HAVE to attend these ridiculous calls where they learn nothing, just hearing girls trying to brainwash them praying and making noise for nothing! I feel so bad for them..😢 Years ago, I was pitched an mlm, and considered the idea for 30 minutes because the woman was talking about trainings.. I just wanted to learn how to make my own business, rather than sell their crap. But if that is the training, then I am really blessed to have said no.
And yes it does sound like they’re getting desperate…the higher car payments are the latest, along with VIP enrollments with zero order obligations and the double rank up bonuses.
@33:37 - since the majority of MLM huns seem to be Evangelicals/Christians that were religiously manipulated into their MLMs - I wonder if there is any correlation between those Evangelicals/Christians that believe in Salvation by Works and this toxic never stop working "business" mind set. It is the exact same attitude people who believe in Salvation by Works have - they must do everything good and perfect: tithe all their money, volunteer for every role at church, participate in all the ministries, talk only about God, never show a "negative" emotion and on and on and on... From a Biblical standpoint it is completely mistaken - the only way you can have Salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ. But most people forget about that. Anyways, since a lot of times it feels to me that these Huns proselytize for their MLM far more than they ever have for their God, I wonder if they are also shifting that toxic "Salvation by Works" mindset to the MLM also. It breaks my heart for them.
I’ve never had a job worth having that had to BEG me to work there. All the positions that are coveted are hard to get, if the “business opportunity” was so great they would have a waiting list and not need to these brainwashing sessions.
Hey Angels! Enjoy today's video and buckle up because we've got several other zoom calls coming soon because there's a little "online" training event being organized!
I wonder why? Is it something they normally do or do you think they are scrambling because numbers are down?
@@bellezanegra0206 I totally think it’s because numbers are down. There’s like 6 zoom calls of “major training” coming up and they’re getting as many people on it reviewing stuff. I think they’re doing everything they can rn 😂
@@IsabellaLanter wth?! That’s not time freedom. Why do they need so much training if the products sell themselves? Lol
@@bellezanegra0206 Training is a great chance for thr leaders to get their ego stroked & brag about themselves by telling their stories!
It's also a wonderful time to spout meaningless cliches masquerading as business tools & preach self development whilst telling the down lines they just need to manifest!
I love when they talk about taking time off when they're sick but they're always on these calls like, "Sorry I sound like this. I just worked 95 hours with pneumonia." Really living the dream!
Exactly! 😄
Yeah, but “working” to the people on the top is just yelling at their team and posting selfies.
It feels like every single call is a damage control call. "Everything is okay" "we are growing" "don't look other way". Who are you trying to convince? The team or yourself? So sad 😔
it's amazing that they just use buzzwords when they make no sense. being a nurse is generally considered to be "a dream" that you fulfill. working as a nurse at a hospital or clinic or school isnt fulfilling someone elses dream, it's fulfilling an important societal service. i just
that whole argument of "selling something everyone needs" - people won't stop washing their hair but they *will* stop buying expensive shampoo because there are a lot cheaper out there...
Exactly! $35 for an 8oz bottle of Monat shampoo, or $5 for a 28oz bottle of Suave. Hmmm, if I'm broke, I wonder what I'll choose.
Cheaper and better!
Also as someone who *does* occasionally splurge on high end hair care - I'll choose a brand that DOESN'T burn my scalp and make my hair fall out, thank you.
@@deltasaves They are the same people that say if you have no money for bills & are struggling financially the solution is to spend a minimum of $200 for the opportunity to join the 95+% who lose money!
Medical also. People will always get sick and need a doctor and will always need a dentist. This beauty stuff tanks so often. I’m glad I have the stability of knowing if
I had to move or lost my job I have a degree to find one elsewhere and back me up.
In my family, no one really knew what an MLM was, but we were told to avoid “shady” companies. That’s how my grandma described Avon, Amway, etc. - “shady.” Even though there was no real dialogue surrounding these companies back in the day, a lot of folks knew to avoid them. They knew intuitively that something wasn’t right.
If she lost her entire team.....it kinda suggests she was pretty terrible as a leader
And she didn't gain a single one back or new in an ENTIRE year!
They're trying to play both sides of the fence when they talk about their "fame" as a brand. Both "The number one hair care company in the world, celebrities use it, OMG it's so well known!" and "People haven't heard of Monat yet, there are still so many people you can recruit, it's a ground floor opportunity!"
UGH.
Same with the "free time" thing
"I'm a business owner so I control my hours, this lets me have free time and raise my kids" but also "you have to WORK there are no excuses I worked with my newborn baby 18 hours a day strapped to my chest uphill both ways trekking through snow barefoot!"
Everyone keep your eye out for an mlm horror story video about a server who was harassed by her boss's girlfriend when she was just trying to do her job 🙄🙄🙄🙄
They are either delusional or just plain lying (I think we all know which one it is) when they constantly say that even in a recession where no one can afford anything, barely even being able to buy food, Monat won’t be affected because shampoo is a necessity to everyone. When people start struggling financially the FIRST thing that goes is extremely expensive products that aren’t necessary when you can get something from Walmart for $5 instead.. Sure people will still need to wash their hair but they will go to an affordable option instead 🙄
Then they’ll probably stick with the cheaper option bc it’s likely as good or better than Monat
there actually was a phenomenon during the 2008 recession where high-end cosmetics was one of the few industries to remain relatively stable, but those were real reputable brands that actually produce a higher-quality product, not some basic overpriced mlm garbage.
bc let’s be real, just bc their shampoo is $84 a bottle or whatever doesn’t mean it’s actually worth that! it’s an average product at best and harmful to users at worst.
on top of that, many people chase after (for example) shampoo that aids their specific hair type. i have to use special specific shampoos because my hair gets greasy/oily quickly, and i have natural curls/wavy hair, AND my hair gets dried out easily. and yet i can find a good shampoo at walmart that helps my hair more than a $75 bottle of shampoo💀
I literally had a conversation this weekend with some friends about MLMs. None of them had herd of them, yet turns out one had a sister in beach body. They just thought their sister was annoying and always dieting.
That’s because none of them are willing to admit they are in MLMs. They keep calling it new names.
@@bellezanegra0206 yeah, I said show me her Instagram. It took two seconds and I said, oh she's in Beach Body and that's an MlM...
So glad there's a class action lawsuit in the works against Beachbody for being a MLM.
When I was a kid I did not know either!! Back then Tupperware and Avon where popular. My mom tried selling Tupperware, I remember the home parties. They were good containers back then!! My aunt was in Avon for a time.
@@anij80 Yes, my mom still has some Tupperware today from the early '80s!! Unfortunately they just don't make them like they used to and they're not good anymore. My mom uses those old Tupperware for junk now as she has evolved to the KonMari method and transformed her kitchen into everything minimal, glass and bamboo. She's going plastic free. 🤙🏾
When people don't have money for food, they for sure wont go for overpriced product! They will go for the cheapest possible option and for sure there is plenty.
I can’t stand the “recession proof” argument specifically with Monat. Sure, people are probably still going to wash their hair. But, a) NOT with $$$ shampoo, and b) not purchase in the volume needed for their allure of financial “freedom”.
"what sets monat apart from everything else?"
the hair loss! :3
😂
no, no! not hair loss… “detox” 🤣
🤣🤣
Lmaoooo
She really said “let’s focus on the bigger picture” …. She’s the only one that gets paid on those numbers???? Not those people on that call
It’s so sad that none of them see that.
I’m an ex monat girly and getting bitched at on these calls is what woke me up, when I realized the SEDs are the ones living lavishly off of everyone else working their ass off and still feeling like they’re failing
when she said "...think of the real scheme of things" 🤣🤣 yes ma'am ,.. I am definitely thinking of the scheme of this..
I used to work with monat and it was awful. I actually liked the skin care but the hair care is SO heavy. I can happily say I seen the red flags and left months ago. wish I would have seen the red flags before getting involved but oh well I guess🤣
How long were you in Monat? Did you get far up in the ranks?
Hindsight is 20/20. Happens to the best of us ❤️
heyyy better late than never ;)
I find it funny how she says the reps are not the only customers. At least she’s admitting their customers
True!
I’ve heard that Monat lost about 100k reps this year. Of course that they are desperate.
This young, healthy attractive lady thinks it is a flex to say “working a 12 hour shift” was humbling to her?
There’s this saying ~ there are 2 types of people in the world, those who are humble and those who are about to be humbled
The whole Upline/downline thing is bizarre. There's literally none of that in a corporate job. These team calls are damage control because they know they aren't doing enough to keep the people in their team.
Jo and Bianca are the definition of mean girls. Almost three years ago I was a many down lines under them (I was only in monat actively for 3 months and stopped after until my membership ran out). These calls were always required to attend and if you didn’t attend you’d get talked down to. They are full of shit and rude af
i’ve never tried to start my own business but watching my ex struggle and stay broke i’ll say that “i can’t work for someone else” is NOT a sign that you should work for yourself (or pretend to in an mlm). how tf are you gonna expect employees to perform well if you don’t even know what that looks like for yourself?
Whenever I see Bianca I think of the leaked text thread of her scamming the system🤣🤣 “forget the oil I want the rank” #neverforget 😩🤣🤣
Omggggg I need to see this LOL
@@FelixMateoThatsFelix lol it was months ago a few anti MLM creators did videos on it but the only one that comes to mind is “Mack attack” his video about it was hilarious 🤣🤣
Yep…the internet is forever 😂
An open mouth is an open business? I spit out my drink when I heard that. Had me laughing so hard ...
Thank you for calling out the constant disparagement of those who choose to not start or own their own business and still enjoy the work they do. That's millions of people they are insulting.
“When you think you’re going through your worst times or your worst days, someone is literally in the glow up, living their best life, THEIR BUSINESS IS EXPLODING… everything is thriving, so it’s just perspective.”
Yes, the uplines businesses are “exploding” from the financial and labor exploitation of those below. That’s the “persepctive,” pyramid down view.
That is not a flex having a baby and still working the entire time!! Also your analysis of the setup of their call was spot on!!! Very insightful it was amazing
Absolutely they will make statements like that, and then rave about all of the “time freedom”.
Have you seen the women literally working in the hosp a few hours after giving birth? If that isnt bad enough the video of someone on their laptop while in labour?
I wonder what these people think will happen if we all quit and join them? Who’s stocking the food shelves / teaching / caring , looking after them on their trips ? It makes no sense at all
Have these women never been poor? I grew up poor, and still washed my hair, but with the cheapest option watered down to last longer. I'm fortunate to not be there as an adult, but you never forget that. And while I splurge a bit on my hair, I will absolutely return to those roots if needed.
@RGB 18 Lol.
When she said that people won't stop washing their hair because of the recession my only though was "yeah, but who's going to buy overpriced meh shampoo"?
Yeah it’s 45 dollars a bottle I can get two large tea tree oil bottles from the salon for that price.
Basically what they are saying is if you work for someone else you OBVIOUSLY aren’t working hard and trying your best like you would be if you were an entrepreneur (AKA working for YOURSELF). This way of thinking shows me everything I need to know about them as a person..
True
godddd every time i see super hard working huns like this i want to tell them about digital marketing, virtual assistants etc. They’re all remote, not a 9-5 and would pay them well!
How do you get started in those fields? I’d love a wfh job. 💕
I have been in the beauty industry 12+ years. I say that to say what products people use comes up OFTEN both personally and professionally and when I tell you I do not know a SINGLE soul that uses Monat and doesn't sell it. 💀... So I am definitely side eyeing that "70% ...." statistic
Between the teams leaving and all this damage control going on, I guarantee there’s corporate fuckery that went down we haven’t heard about yet.
You know what's funny about bartending and mlm? You get GUARANTEED money for your time. With mlm, you don't.
They are so confused. On one hand they talk about having all the time to spend with their families then in the next breath it is all about working and working and working. At least I get the nights and weekends off in my 9-5.
Is that poor girl confused? How did she make it through nursing school and get a job and not realize that being a nurse means you are working for other people????
Jessie Lee Ward on a Zoom said she checks her peoples accounts and if they have money they need to spend it on training because it makes them hungier to work harder...😢😅
Works one shift and is “overworked” okay girly 😂
I was in a MLM called LOB all i will say is that i ended up in debt, i was ridiculed for getting annoyed when nobody was supporting me back, i had a team leader tell me to kms for speaking out about her being nasty about other team leaders to me and honestly they were so rude when they made the mistake of putting my payments details in wrong. I realised when i saw how i was being treated because i was always honest
Her whole first story was giving the “aww so cute, she thinks I’m poor like her” vibes 🥴 yucky
Just throwing it out there but… 50 is not “old woman”. Just in case she somehow sees this
THANK YOU!
Is she kidding? People pivot all the time?
Nokia was NOT a phone company at first. Lego did not sell bricks from the word go. Sony sold rice cookers!
Realising that something is failing and making a change is smart. Staying when something is failing is dumb as hell.
I don’t understand how these down lines continue to sit on these calls where the same information and “success stories” are constantly regurgitated, like multiple times a week….
"50's" is not "old lady"! It's middle aged lady for sure, but it's not old lady or elderly.
Exactly what I thought when I heard that. I'm like "excuse me?" 😂
That's what the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s are for🎉
Always feel compelled to like when someone gets called a 'goofy' 😂😂😂😂
That’s so true that most people have never even heard of these companies. I cannot believe these people think they’re famous
I find it very interesting that she did not talk about how much she made for that 12 hr shift. Probably more than a lot of her downlines.
I think they consider the “employee mindset” as having boundaries and making guaranteed money 🙄
Correct!
Ugh! I hate when they say I was unhappy/miserable at my job. I get it. But, like you say soooo many times, most people can’t work a full time side hustle, while working full time/taking care of kids. I am the main provider for my family since my husband has some health issues and had to quit his job several years ago. He does work from home now but doesn’t make nearly as much as he used too. I have a son who’s in school and there is absolutely no way I could even find 30 minutes a day to do this. I have a few health issues myself and any extra time I have I sleep lol. I know they would call me “lazy” and I don’t care. I laugh because I work far less than they do at my 8-5 and when I get off work I’m done. I love your videos!!! I have been binge watching them all!
It’s sooo embarrassing that these leaders think they own a business. The only thing they do once they get a huge down line is hoping on calls and pretending to be motivational speakers. Omg it’s infuriating how they reel vulnerable people in.
Let's pretend that 70% of Monat's sales are to legit customers (even though that's probably inflated due to ghost accounts). That means that 30% of sales are to distributors. Can you imagine if Target counted on its employees to spend 3 out of every 10 dollars it brings in? They don't understand how insane that business model is. But then, those at the top don't really care where the money comes from, do they?
YESSSS!!!! This is an INCREDIBLE way to visualise how insane MLMs are structured!!!!
Especially considering they don’t even own the business 😅 it’s basically like they’ve brainwashed people into becoming active shareholders that take on 99% of the risk 😅😂
But yes little sheep, ‘own your own business and be your own boss!’
Thank u for all your hard work to bring us great content! I appreciate u!!
How interesting that she is on the topic of self love and making it a priority and then says you should compare your self, day, and habits of someone else. But true self healing and supportive resources reiterate over and over how toxic that is. It’s okay to have goals but the pressure of it and the way they twist it is so cringy.
I had no idea about Monat before watching your show.
Hey Isabella, I would love to see you do a drinking reaction video again. Those are so fun :)
Thank you Isabella. Your videos are doing so much good. You are amazing.
I have never seen or heard of monet outside the anti mlm community.
I was waiting for you to do a video on these two!
Today has been the best WFH day! New vids from you AND Chelsea 💎🎉🎉
my favorite is when she was like “oh my god, I forgot what it was like to work 12 hours and have a 30 minute break” you mean the type of jobs that a lot of people do?
She just sounds like an idiot.
I love your point on how no one knows Monat. I laughed when she kept saying “No one knew who IIII was” like girl… I’m sorry, I didn’t catch your name, who tf are you? I don’t want to be a hater but if they don’t know Monat, of course they won’t know who you are?? Why would they?
The privilege of these girls has to say that during a recession their products are still going to be useful… If someone is missing out on income chances are they’re going to reduce the products they put in their hair or cheap out on some of the expensive products and switch them for more affordable ones until they’re able to get back up and running financially
I'm going to be fully honest and I say that I hate the term "9 to 5" because it makes it sound like the nightmare MLMers portray it to be. I just call it a "regular job."
Lol what a nightmare that you get paid for your work, omg no way!!! Lol
Or just “guaranteed paying job”
@@anij80 Even Mr. Krabs isn't that stingy
Eh I just call it a job lol
I’m actually shocked they never followed with the other large teams to either igenius or Q-Sciences! More so now, my personal opinion is that with the several mass exodus Monat has seen in the past several months, it’s going to be HARDER (thank god) to recruit, so I’m sure we’ll continue to see that downward trend (with a steeper slope, a term I’m certain no one in igenius is familiar with 😂) as we saw from the exposed conference with the top leaders a few months back.
One reason could be the buy in cost for igenius is around 2k I believe. Plus higher monthly fees.
"How many times have you stopped doing what you want because of the people you love?" Do you mean like the times when I gave up my relaxing time at home to travel over an hour and a half to visit my sick mum? Or when I gave up my comfy bed to stay with my Aunty whose house had been broken in to, and we were all scared that they might come back?
Well yes I still wash my hair but in a recession I'm not buying their expensive crap. That makes hair fall out & causes sores, rashes, etc.....allegedly...IMO...
Umm...no.
I really want to know the entire story behind how the one girl “lost her team”. Because I have questions.
Me to
An “older” woman!! I am 51 years old, and carry my age very well….this Monet REP is a JOKE! If she only knew how she is representing herself!
Oh Isabelle we need to connect! I have some deep dives for you with a few MLM companies.
I'm 54 and I am not old! She sounds like an uneducated idiot.
yes! this upload just made my day
Damn I didn't realize that not being able to pay my rent was just a mindset. I'll go ahead and tell my landlord that.
Entrepreneurs are the exact opposite of working FOR a company.
Me, watching the huns talk*
omg say "my/the business" one more time...🤨😒 lol
Oh my god, they've expanded into Spain :( I was hoping it wouldn't come out here but it (unfortunately) makes sense since the unemployment is BAD here, especially with the younger crowd
What is "winning"? I need to define winning because I KNOW that we have a different definition from them. Also if your dream is to provide for your family, which is DAMN NEAR impossible in Monat, then wouldn't leaving be "winning"?
Never heard of these people. They’re selling to each other & buying their own products. There’s a way: I used to buy the fundraiser candy I was supposed to sell. I spent $95 & received a $250 check, for being the Top Seller.
It’s so sad to see veronicas live today and how Jo her sister isn’t talking to her since she switched MLMs. That’s how you KNOW Monat is toxic. Like sis that’s your baby freaking sister. Your the bigger sister and you won’t talk to your little sister because she stepped away from something that didn’t make her happy? (obvi to another MLM which is wack) Where’s your integrity? Speaking as a Hispanic like literally that’s your hermana, so upsetting you let something you both succeeded in tear you apart. Familia first. Business second. Period. Monat destroying families out here 🤦🏻🙃 idk there family behind the scenes but attitudes switched like night and day. SMH
Yeah, she’s pissed she lost her sister as her downline. It was a HUGE hit to her wallet
@@purplhaze5464 SMHHH
In her defence, Veronica is very unpleasant. They both suck tbh.
4:18 GREAT POINT ISABELA!!!
“Older lady in her 50’s” 🤦♀️
“God is parting the sea.”
You sell shampoo and recruit your competition. It’s not that serious
I think a lot of people are needing to cut things like ridiculously expensive hair products from their budget right now and this has to be impacting their sales.
As someone who lives in Spain, I remember how Monat came to our market. I saw them everywhere trying to recruit. Now I barely see them really :) also…. This girl’s English is so amazing! Such a rare case for Spain (I’ve been working as an english teacher here since I moved here in 2012 and I’ve only met a bunch of people with that level of English).
Or she’s picking up catering jobs from her boyfriend since her paycheck is taking such a huge hit from her downlines leaving, and someone tagged her in a picture working it and she wanted to make sure she’s framing it in a way that it doesn’t look like she needs a second job to make a living wage…
They definitely overly exaggerate the number of customers.
I sat next to her in biology in sixth grade!! Lmaooo
I wonder if they count customers who returned the products?
Some great commentary Isabella. Just a tinge of sadness about this call.
"Open mouth, open business" does not make me think about selling shampoo. It makes me think of.... nvm... this is a family channel
🤣 same
Wow she’s sooo brave to work one bartending shift. That proves everything
“It’s go at your own pace”
“It’s not hard”
See also: *I work my ass off nearly to death til I cry at 2am*
It’s a mindfuck that she’s using the idea that it’s an “easy” “at your own pace” business that you own to justify trying to basically turn her downlines into glorified MLM slaves…….
25:07 : it looks like she is praying or affirming, trying to brainwash herself.. and downlines HAVE to attend these ridiculous calls where they learn nothing, just hearing girls trying to brainwash them praying and making noise for nothing! I feel so bad for them..😢
Years ago, I was pitched an mlm, and considered the idea for 30 minutes because the woman was talking about trainings.. I just wanted to learn how to make my own business, rather than sell their crap. But if that is the training, then I am really blessed to have said no.
"What's special about us is the product" Oh, you mean the "discontinued" product that was "brought back" but was actually expired? That product?
And yes it does sound like they’re getting desperate…the higher car payments are the latest, along with VIP enrollments with zero order obligations and the double rank up bonuses.
Dude when I had my son I wasn’t worried about work, all I could think about was my happy sweet boy.
13:30 “you are agreeing to become a business owner” this is a strait up lie and should be reported
Got my sandwich and my iced tea...I'm here for this!!
@33:37 - since the majority of MLM huns seem to be Evangelicals/Christians that were religiously manipulated into their MLMs - I wonder if there is any correlation between those Evangelicals/Christians that believe in Salvation by Works and this toxic never stop working "business" mind set. It is the exact same attitude people who believe in Salvation by Works have - they must do everything good and perfect: tithe all their money, volunteer for every role at church, participate in all the ministries, talk only about God, never show a "negative" emotion and on and on and on... From a Biblical standpoint it is completely mistaken - the only way you can have Salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ. But most people forget about that. Anyways, since a lot of times it feels to me that these Huns proselytize for their MLM far more than they ever have for their God, I wonder if they are also shifting that toxic "Salvation by Works" mindset to the MLM also. It breaks my heart for them.
I’ve never had a job worth having that had to BEG me to work there. All the positions that are coveted are hard to get, if the “business opportunity” was so great they would have a waiting list and not need to these brainwashing sessions.
I mean Jo’s actual sister left Monat and that didnt go well, so pretty sure shes especially desperate.