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Can you PLEASE help? My dog is now 3 years old. I live alone and I hardly ever go out. My dog howls when I leave. I’ve been doing training for years now and tried two types of medication and nothing has worked. I’m lost now how to proceed. The frida protocol I’ve been unable to fully follow yet as have too many questions and stuck at the relaxation part. Please help😢
We've started doing this at home with our extremely separation anxious dog that we rescued 5 months ago. Rescued at age 8 from a hoarding situation in Texas with 30 doggie siblings no people... He has never been alone in his life and we couldn't leave the house at all because of his anxiety. He is a super calm dog otherwise (can sleep and relax ANYWHERE!) but the second we leave...it's madness. We started doing the treats when he relaxes in his special room, and recently bought a remote feeder. He LOVES being alone in his room now -- and will often leave our side even as we eat dinner to go hang out in the room. We haven't tried with the closed door yet, but this is truly the first hope we've had in MONTHS. He actually LIKES being alone now. Thank you, this is giving us our life back.
We're so happy to read this, so glad you're moving forward with the protocol and that it's making your lives easier ❤️❤️❤️ Keep up that awesome work you're doing, thank you for sharing 🐾
@@DogsThat This has been a total miracle for us! You have no idea! Just left him alone for over an hour and we've truly been only doing it for 2 weeks!
Because we love our dogs deeply, we want to do as much to help them. Only through deep love, we feel convicted to do more for our dogs. Otherwise the work becomes chores.
my dog doesn't respond to cookies, kibble, etc, so snuffle mats, kongs and remote feeders do no good. He has great nutrition, gets plenty of exercise and knows how to relax completely as long as he knows where I am. I hit a dead end every time training involves food rewards of any kind
It depends on many factors, some dogs are simply not food driven enough. However, the question is why? Many people leave the food dayround for the dog for free and even if not then from the first day on this planet the dog has free food - in these cases the food will forever have very low value to the dog. Imagine as a human you'd get a monthly allowance of money from the day you're born till the day you die, and it would increase as you age and according to your needs, would you in your complacency would go and put effort and work for more money? Most people probably won't. In the highly unlikely case that the food drive is simply low because of some inherent temperament - you'll have to develop a drive for play in the dog, and in medium and below energy dogs this is going to be waaaay harder than increasing their food drive.
It may be helpful to try higher value treats to start out with. Try cut up beef jerky, freeze dried liver or hearts (cut to appropriate size), soft training bites. Train before feeding, when they are hungry and the treats gain even more value. If your dog is very stressed by you leaving, then they may be past their threshold and not eating due to that. If that is the case then you may need to proceed in smaller steps. Good luck!
Try giving a Good breakfast in the morning. Make it the biggest and best of the day. Last meal late evening. If you you try this food will be more appealing. Ive had a super separation anxiety dog i know what its like, i had to take him EVERYWHERE all of the time it was a pain but i was in a position where I was able to do this. Obviously this isnt a option for everyone so the best advice i can give for what its worth is be calm before you're about to leave him. take it out of your head because they are ultra perceptive. You are their everything for a dog like this so try and be totally calm and when you leave do all you can to make him feel better. I think a lot of it is about training yourself in order for it to filter to your dog. Best of luck and im sure you WILL make this work. 🤞
My dog doesn’t care much about those things either. The only food related item that she responds to is dried cow trachea/ ear/ hoof/ snout ect. She LOVES it (but it’s kinda stinky). I think because it’s not something that she’ll just eat, she has to lick and chew it, so it’s really entertaining. Worth giving it a try :)
This will be my salvation! My daughter has a dog with extreme separation anxiety. I have a three month old rescue that I was determined not to let that happen and failed miserably. I feel trapped at home because I want to train her to be happy alone without me. I had to leave for an hour put her in her crate and now she’s afraid of the crate.
Iv seen sooooo many videos even experts i love. But you amased me how spot on this is!! Thank you and i hope more people finds this video! Its truly amazing tips and ideas!
I live in a one bedroom small apartment. All of 760 square ft. My husky mix is fine as long as I don’t go through the apartment door. He often follows me around the apartment, but not always. I work from home and keep my bedroom door closed during the day. Was an issue for a day or so and then he’s fine all day. I’ve got cameras to keep an eye out in case it gets into mischief. I can even leave during the day and it’s not a big deal. Evening and night though. Within seconds of me shutting the front door he’s howling or whining. Now I’m just three weeks into our relationship. He’s a rescued. 14 months old or so. He paces. He whines. He barks. He looks out the window. Lays by the door. Very stressed. When I’m here at night he’s chill and relaxed. He’s not into toys. Food toys he likes but ignored when I leave the apartment. I’m looking for ideas on how to utilize the partial barrier. All I can think is a baby gate on the front door and a way to keep that door open. Open to ideas. We walk over 2 miles a day. Free running not an option.
separation anxiety takes time to change. you are only 3 weeks in. it took us 6 months of consistent work, training using the subthreshold method and frida method. i would say, keep doing door desensitization exercises for months. this means, going to the door, touching the door, opening the door, grabbing your things, but never leaving. then when your dog acts normal when you do all this stuff, you leave for 1 second. yup. u start at 1 second. then 2 second. then 15 seconds. build it up to a minute, then 15 mins, 50 mins . this needs to happen VERY SLOWLY. take. your. time. be patient. watch their body cues on your camera feed. its a hard problem to fix and medication helps so much, but you still need to address the root cause. the root cause is because the dog is afraid its being abandoned, so the way to address that is showing the dog you always come back before they need to worry.
So we started this about a month ago with our 3 year old shepard malinois mix rescue. He was in kennels for all of his life with no family so he has a lot of issues to work through. Mostly with reactivity and fence guarding. Before watching this video we were putting him on his bed and then walking outside and incrementally getting out the door for longer periods but the progress was so slow. Even though we didnt follow the steps exactly, as our treat dispenser could be a bit slow at times, we just left the house today for 2 and a half hours and he calmed down and slept for most of it. He didnt seem bothered by the treats we left out for him and he was ocassionally checking the door for us but other than that it was so much better than when we left him a few months ago. We were scared we wouldnt be able to leave him again for a long time so really pleased to have found this video and used some of the methods combined with some relaxation protocol. 😊 Much appreciated from the UK
As someone who gets panic attacks, I've always hated the advice for dealing with separation anxiety in dogs, and now that I have one with that issue, I dislike it even more. I see in him the exact issues humans go through--too big of a trigger and they lose all their progress. I really like the idea of this protocol and hope me and my puppy can manage this!
Three months ago my husband and I purchased an almost 3 year old (born March 2020 = "covid puppy") not knowing she suffered terriby from SA. She attached primarily to me. She does kind of okay if home alone with my husband but he pretty much has to keep her busy. I rarely leave and if we both have to leave I make arrangements to take her to one of 3 or 4 friends who are willing to have her visit. It's been tough on us all. We spent $250 on a consultation with a positiver reinforcement trainer, who want another $500 for 4 sessions. We couldn't afford that so we developed our own plan. Your video is such an encougement because it validates our decision to purchase and begin using Treat and Train. We've only had it two days and now we know better how to implement the relaxation protocol and how to eventually phase it out. Thank you so very much for giving us a plan. But, since we're not there yet I am putting in my two cents to show my support for Nadine and Simone's program in English. I bet it won't cost as much as a professional trainer (i.e. $750)!
I would be interested in any separation anxiety support and hope Nadine and Simone can do a program in English. I have seen several approves and not sure which one would be best for my dog
@ I wish I could tell you the rest of the story but the people we got this sweet dog from contacted us a short time later because their youngest daughter really missed her. Long story short, they willingly took her back. We will never know the rest of her story.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ My heart was so warmed by this training for separation anxiety! So refreshing to see the doggos treated by the trainers in such a patient and humane manner. You’re right! This is such a different approach! It makes so much sense to teach and begin the process by training them how to relax. Excellent advice and coaching … Thank You. I will keep this in mind as I shape my puppy in different experiences by using these techniques, even if he doesn’t have severe anxiety… it’s just a nice way to leave your dog. Handy for when we dog sit as well! Cant wait for tonight! 🎉
Brilliant......sounds very similar to Presence doesn't mean Access, that Absolute Dogs (England)have been doing for a while. I think it's fabulous that these young, knowledgeable trainers, vet's, and behaviourists are coming up with excellent new ways of teaching dogs. We're on the cusp of a tsunami, in kind ways of teaching animals and I'm excited to be a part of it. Thanks to all of you for helping Dogs live their best lives ❤️
I think they use similar tools, but the program is absolutely nothing the same Marie. I have never heard of any other dog trainer or behaviors. Take this type of approach to separation anxiety.
Oh goodness, please don't misconstrued my comment as being a slight on these 2 innovative young women. I was merely sighting other trainers who do similar training/coaching to show gratitude for all those training with kindness and showing dogs to be the marvellous creatures they are. Obviously, these two women have a unique approach as they have designed it. Please forgive me, I really didn't mean any disrespect 🙏 I'm just trying to soak up all this amazing knowledge. Oh, and Happy International Women's Day.❤️ see you later on your live whoop whoop
I love that you said.. "If you are anything like me, one will do but 30 or 40 will be amazing!" I'm on my 7th bed for two dogs!... and will buy more. It was 5 beds for one dog.
SHEW. ..I wish I had help like this a few years back...adopted a German haired pointed from a shelter...it was SO BAD for everyone. ..me the other dogs and the poor poor pointer.....I'm crying a I say this but I eventually let him go over the rainbow bridge. ..THANK YOU for this podcast...granny owned by a cattle dog.
I just rescued a terrier corgi mix and she is glued to my hip. Thank you so much, shes good at just hanging out in whatever room and chilling but when i remove myself from any situation shes on 100. Definitely going to try this more positive approach.
We'll love to hear about how the training is going! If you'd like to learn more about Susan's game based training, join us in the free series we're hosting this week: doggyflix.com/yt/season-of-nuance
Hi Jenny, suggestion noted, thank you! In the meantime, Susan shares a bit about nutrition and other important elements for longevity in this podcast: ruclips.net/video/YZaL_vRTXu4/видео.html
I really like the partial barrier!! I feel like that's a part where dogs get stuck a lot, as soon as that barrier is closed the stress comes out. I work in a daycare, I am going to try this with some of our dog friends who find barriers challenging!
Absolutely brilliant Epic Episode 200. I don't have a dog with SA but I can totally see how these well thought out steps can work. Wow, way to showcase new talent, Susan! And congrats on 200 brilliant, enlightening, entertaining and humorous episodes. Gems, all. ❤️🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪
I’ve taught my dog to stay calm and be independent. But I also wanna recommend calming dog music from RUclips. My dog likes piano. That was a true game changer.
Video game music is another great option, as it is literally *designed* to be background noise AND to elicit specific moods. Added bonus is you can stream loops of your chosen song or playlist for free on most smart TVs. I put on the same 10hr video of Skyrim music every time I leave the house, and the dogs have acclimated to it so well that as soon as it starts playing they all go to their favorite spots on the couch and pass out before I even have my shoes on. :P
I have a new puppy with severe SA as well. In fact I've been in contact with Recaller's support staff and working with a behaviorist. But we are still having strong problems, I haven't left the house in 7 weeks? without her or having someone at home bc I hate to have her go over threshold that badly for a longer length of time. We are using a lot of these techniques but not in this order, so willing to give anything a try to help this sweet baby. Otherwise this is an outgoing, happy girl, it's simply heartbreaking to have her this anxious. Signed up for the protocol in English already!
Hello, are you working with a CSAT (Certified Separation Anxiety Trainer)? I don't think there is a better program available then the ones CSAT's offer. It is worth noting, though, that separation anxiety behaviors can take months to resolve. Nice work having someone with your puppy to prevent going over-threshold!
My dog had really bad SA when he came to me. I couldn't go to the bathroom alone without him barking. Julie Niasmith and her subthreshold training helped, returning before he went over his anxiety threshold. As well as not allowing him to follow me to the door, building routine, and the treat throwing Furbo camera.
this sounds good bc what you described at the beginning is my dog, extreme anxiety. but it wasn't always like this. he had to be hospitalized for 3 days in September and came home this way. He isn't even the same dog. He loses his mind everytime I'm separated from him now and before he was always very independent. I do have a few hiccups id like some advice on before getting started with this method . hes a senior and isn't interested in toys or running anymore. he just wants to sleep, and does unless I leave then he will bark for hours and hours. that includes just leaving the room, its extreme. second, I have a 2 story home and he can't get up the stairs. he doesn't sleep in my room so I'm not sure how the step of leaving him outside the room would work...unless I try it with my office during the day. hes currently on medication to manage this but I want him healed, not medicated.
@yeshuaismyking894 thank you so much about doing everything you can to help your boy 💙 Use where you can both access and are comfortable. You don't mention your boy's age but the sudden presentation of anxiety to this extent would be worth talking to your vet about. We're grateful your dog has you to help him.
@DogsThat hes around 15 or 16 actually. I don't know what his early life was like because he was a rescue but I feel like his overnight stay at the vet could have triggered something possibly thank you
I’d so love to hear more. I’ve been literally training my dog almost every day for two years and still no joy. I’ve put her on medication and this still hasn’t worked. I’ve been a prisoner in my own own as I live alone. If I could solve this even to just go to the gym for an hour I’d be forever grateful. Susan - I love your podcasts. They all make so much sense and you are funny and entertaining at the same time. I think you are one of the best trainers there are so to introduce these trainers on separation anxiety I believe can be the solution. How I would love for you to help my dog when others have told me to rehome her.
Hi Susan!! My puppy Hudson (chihauhua spaniel mix) is 5 months old and we are dealing with heavy separation anxiety! He howls non stop whenever I leave (in his crate, in a penned area, or free roaming). Last week he howled for 3 hours straight till I got home. I’ll admit it’s my fault, I didn’t leave him alone nearly close to enough from the day I brought him home!! He is very well behaved, nondestructive and great at asking to go outside to use the bathroom which is why I let him roam free in the house since day 1. I am now trying to curb this anxiety by getting him a penned off area in the living room and plan to cut away his free roaming capabilities. My thinking is this will help him be more comfortable when I leave since he will be in there for hours at a time when I am home as well! Would love any feedback or correction/alternatives to this plan!
I have a 6 year old Cavalier who was rescued from a puppy mill who has terrible separation anxiety. I'm so glad I found your channel and this protocol. I would love to have the FRIDA online program in English. For now, we are following your instructions from this video. Thank you for sharing this program!!
I rescued a husky a year ago, and she definitely suffers from seperation anxiety. She is very calm and relaxed, but only with me. When leaving her in the car for example, if I get more than a few feet away she starts doing the husky howls and yaps. If i leave a window down too far she leaps out of my truck. I have tried everything, even calming chews. I had been giving her rawhide bones or special treats to distract her, but she soon became wise to that and watches me to make sure im not going anywhere, and ignores toys, food and treats. I'll have to try these methods and see if they work, but huskies are not so easily persuaded Im finding out, lol Ive trained all of the dogs ive owned and she is by far the hardest to train. Shes a very affectionately pup. She will wake up from a nap and if im in bed she will crawl up into bed with me and lay against me.
I am going to attempt this, my challenge is that I’ve been moving around for over a year so having a space for the dog like you suggest is a challenge…
We just brought home a rescue who would benefit from this. I am starting with baby step since I'm not ready to get a remote feeder and am reinforcing when he lays around relaxed. I have noticed though since he is only about 4 days in with us he is never fully relaxed even when in positions that usually mean "i'm so relaxed", he is always ready to hop up as soon as anyone in the room moves and regularly goes looking for my fiance who he took an instant liking to.
@ciannacoleman5125 You're doing great! Just keep up with that gentle reinforcement and allow him time to acclimate. Keep in mind that the FRIDA technique will be even more helpful in the long run! (Julie - DogsThat Team)
This is brilliant. I cannot wait to try this out. Our dog has the worst separation anxiety I’ve ever seen. So I’m hoping this will help. Thank you so much for this video!
@@DogsThatmy 4 month old Miniature American Shepherd has attached himself to me big time. He won’t listen to my husband hardly at all! I have had my husband take him out, feed him, play with him, all to no avail. If I leave the room/house and he is in his pen or crate, he carries on like no bodies business. I don’t have the remote feeder yet, but do have many treat toys which I put in with him and once they are empty, he starts going crazy barking.
Your video showed up in my suggstions at the perfect time. You are describing my little Luna to a T. She really needs to gain some independence. It breaks my heart that she feels like she can't be apart from me when I leave the room much less leave the house. In truth we had considered rehoming her because I can't leave her alone ever and we've had her since November. I have had to put her on medication to help with her anxiety but when we try to couple that with conventional treatments it just doesn't work. I am typing this as I work from home and she is in her crate right now whining because I am not making eye contact with her. She is literally less than five feet from me but her crate is turned in the other direction so she can't see me only hear me. It's maddening at times because I feel like I'm being held hostage by an adorable furry being that doesn't get that I need to work to pay for her meds and her puppy food and toys.
Hi Nikki, thank you for sharing your challenge with us, we're sorry you and little Luna are going through this. Please, give the protocol a go and let us know how it works for you! 💕
I’m sitting a 14 year old dog for the next three weeks. SA to the max. Day 3 I’ve tried Rescue Remedy drop on food , not that successful. Did essential oil, frankincense, lavender and balance, massaged the oil over his coat several times throughout the day, diffuser with lavender, started to work. But, the best was using the dog bed and just keep directing back to the bed with treat. Sound asleep🎉🎉
Great episode, congrats on 200!! So much great info you've put out into the world for everyone for free, thank you so much!! This protocol makes so much sense.
Thank you, thank you! You have given me hope that I might one day have my life back and my beautiful, sweet boy might one day be ok being apart from me. ❤️❤️❤️
Hi! I'm from Germany! And Simon and Nadine are so fantastic. Unfortunately, we have so much else to learn right now. Therefore we could not book the German program now. I hope to do another course this year.
Hi Frida, just learning about your techniques, so exciting.. I get extreme anxiety and the most explosive reactions when we are in the car and I attempt to stop car and get out. I get this even if my dog knows I am walking around to let him out, or if I am stopping to go into the gas station. its the action of stopping car, (anxious bark) putting into park, turning off engine (frantic bark, clawing) and opening my door (full blown panic) How/where do I start or adapt your program to the car? (I dont get the separation anxiety if Im home and leave) although we get SOME if I leave him in house and I am in backyard, OR if someone (my husband attempts to take him on leash away from me)
We have been working on functional relaxation with our 8 month old beagle pup. Everything was going well, until he decided that eating his blankets/bedding is more rewarding than relaxing on or near them. We give him plenty of options to shred and destroy appropriate things, and lots of exercise. Any tips?
thanks for this video Susan!! we’re planning our next puppy and i want to train this one to relax right off the hop. this protocol is exactly what i was looking for.
Another great episode, thank you! ❤SA is a difficult problem for the owners. I 'm curious that in the whole process - which can take weeks of course - can the dog be left alone in the house? Most of the protocols insist on, understandably, not to, which is quite difficult to the owner. What is your suggestion?
I'm in a country where the remote feeder is not easily accessible and a Wi-Fi camera would cost a lot of money... but we can always adapt. Thank you for this video for some different techniques hopefully it will help my street dog who has some sever separation anxiety
If you have a older smartphone laying around, you can install Skype and create an account for your dog (I did that for mine). Activate the automatic call answering in the settings and you're good to go (literally). Doesn't help with the remote feeder, but makes an easy, affordable (Skype is for free) WiFi camera.
There is also a phone app called "Alfred Camera". You install it on an older smartphone not in use and your phone. The older phone becomes a camera you can set up with a tripod or something to watch your dog. Alfred is a free app.
Thank you for this episode! Excited to try some of these things! One question, does this mean that I should abandon the hope of getting my anxious dog to love her crate?
Thank you so much for sharing this, Susan. My dog is very attached to me and much less so to my partner. We have done protocols for relaxation that have helped him so when I am gone for a work day, he does well. But if I go away, for the weekend for example, he cries and paces at night and is very stressed even though my partner is here. I am wondering how to do the protocol so he is more relaxed with my partner when I am gone for more than just a day.
Hi I enjoyed your video, my dog is 15 months old, he chewed his stuffed toys, he ripped his snuffle mat up, he relaxes all the time I’m with him the minute I move he’s up, he would walk away from a feeder after a while as he would be bored, I’ve crate trained him but he goes so nuts he jumps in the crate and moves it while he’s barking…….do you have any other tips I can’t leave the house.
If you are struggling (like I was!) to implement this type of SA training on your own - Jenn Gavin may be able to help you. She developed her own SA training method using a remote feeder. Jenn was recommended to me by a veterinary behaviorist that had just spent a week at Jenn’s facility (A Pleasant Dog, Grand Rapids, Michigan). It’s early days (a month in, 3 Zoom sessions so far), but we’re already light years ahead (20 min monitored alone time already!) of the standard SA training with a qualified SA trainer that we tried and failed at (multiple regressions) for over a year. Jenn also wrote a handbook (Pleasantly Independent) that is very detailed and easy to follow. But if you’ve tried the standard SA approach, I highly recommend scheduling sessions with Jenn to maximize chances of success - she’s amazing.
My dog does not suffer SA but I would love to see Nadine and Simone more often. Thank you so much for the nutrition tips. I will increase good oil (Krill or hempseed) and low carb boiled vegetable and decrease protein a bit. Hard to find the good balance.
My puppy husky has have his ups and downs in crate training and separation anxiety. But at least we’ve gone from him not even allowing me to take a shower in peace with all the crying and howling, from being able to do that. But it’s still a struggle to leave the house. I had some questions. -Regarding the diet, he’s eating a cooked low carb diet (I buy a barf brand, but he doesn’t like to eat it raw). Is it okay to add more veggies? I’m concerned about the proper diet for a dog, since they come from carnivorous ancestors. -We’ve been training the functional calmness exercises, but my issue is that he will focus on me with firm attention, which normally would be a good thing, but he won’t relax. He’s waiting for me to give him the rewards, but my objective is for him to be calm instead of inquisitive about when the reward may come. This is reflected on how he will be in a down position, and then just sit, and then start barking, which is him being excited and impatient. Even if I build duration, I’m building duration of this state of being eager for treats, rather than calm. -Also, my pups instead of sniffing and the snuffle mat, he’ll just shake it and drop all the treats 😅. One could think it’s quite the genius move, since he doesn’t have to sniff and find the treats, but it defeats the purpose!
I have the furbo camera that works as a treat dispenser, would you say that it would be detrimental if the treat dispenser is a bit further away from the dog? In the sense that when she is calm she would have to stand and maybe walk to pick up the treat?
This has been my struggle too. I haven't been able to get my puppy to not stand up to eat the treat. I'm trying to reward him for being calm and relaxed.
I really enjoyed this episode thank-you. I don't have a dog with separation anxiety but I do have one who struggles to stay calm when the delivery people turn up. I've done the Karen Overall relaxtion protocol and had some success . Still more to do though. I'm sure this protocol could be adapted for delivery drivers! .
So, my dog , Clay would ignore the toy, chew-up the Snuffle Mat and dog bed, jump over the barrier, could care less about the food and he gets a ton of exercise on my 2 1/3 acres. His attention span on training is about 3 minutes. Ugh. He does have pretty good nutrition, but I could step that up. He does like a good foot massage, but his relaxation could improve.
I’ve a 7 month pup he has serious separation anxiety from me..I’m disabled so have problems sometimes reaching to him..he is a cross Yorkshire terrier/ chihuahua I have been trying to crate train him..he’s pretty good when I’m at home but extremely bad when I leave him
How would you adjust this if you need to leave your dog in a crate instead? Just moving an open crate around instead of the 3 sided barrier? What is you have a puppy that can’t be left with a bed/ topple or kong? My puppy loves to chew and shred so I can’t leave enrichment in her crate with her.
This is great - thank you. My working cocker spaniel is fine if I leave the house, but he can’t bear it if I leave a room. Will be using these steps. Would this still be SA though, or FOMO. He also can’t even handle it if he’s on a boundary and I’m on the sofa or letting the other dog out for the toilet. Other Podcast suggestions welcome. Thanks
Hi Susan, my husband and I are trying this protocol on our super separation-anxious pittie girl.... gradually, she's chillaxing in the other room with her remote pet feeder friend and we're watching her on the wifi-cam... this is great progress for her. One question: is it a bad idea to keep rewarding through pet feeder once they're basically asleep? It might be counter-productive to wake them up for a treat... just a bit unsure.
After watching this, I finally have some hope for my 3-year-old red nose pit, Zachary 🥹🥹 I think he’s doing much better with the work I’ve personally done, but this is where I’m struggling and need some help. THANK YOU!! I guess my first concern before I even start, how do you think it’ll work for me if I have to leave him at certain times throughout the day? When I go to the gym, or grocery shopping, even to work? Like I know I can’t just put that stuff on hold so I can help Zachary out…like I’m just worried about self-sabotage so to speak, if that makes sense.
@iknowyouwanttofly The FRIDA protocol is not quite ready in English, but you can reach out to Nadine and Simone via their website with your questions as they have coached many people with similar challenges. Here is the website contact details for you (both Nadine and Simone are very fluent in English): www.lebenmithunden.eu/pages/kontakt The email address is - info@lebenmithunden.eu (Julie - DogsThat Team)
What a great topic for episode 200! Thanks for this podcast, it is as brilliant as all the others. I have a dog that has separation anxiety and I will definitely try this approach. I am German, but live in the States now, so either way would be fantastic. I have a question though, my dog is crate trained and he loves his crate. He goes in there on his own when he is tired. I want to let him roam free eventually, but before I can trust him making good choices without us, I would rather have him in his crate when we leave him alone. Does FRIDA also works with a crate as a barrier instead of the XPEN?
no. FRIDA protocol should be used , without a crate. Room or gate barriers work well. The point of FRIDA is to give your dog choices to relax & have more freedom without being attached to you
I have a question! This is super wonderful and I'm super excited to begin the protocol with my dog BUT while still in the process of my dog learning the protocol, should I just do what I'm currently doing when I have to leave him and leave it separate from the protocol for now (since this will take some time)?
Hello! If you leave a dog with separation anxiety for more than he can handle, it will sensitize him to alone-time, making the behavior worse (rather than desensitize). If you think of it like you're gradually building trust, working on only leaving for amounts of time he can comfortably handle, then you leave him to a point he panics, it will destroy not only your progress but your dog's trust in the training process.
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Can you PLEASE help? My dog is now 3 years old. I live alone and I hardly ever go out. My dog howls when I leave. I’ve been doing training for years now and tried two types of medication and nothing has worked. I’m lost now how to proceed. The frida protocol I’ve been unable to fully follow yet as have too many questions and stuck at the relaxation part. Please help😢
@@elaineconnor-ti1vb I would go to the website and use their contact information
We've started doing this at home with our extremely separation anxious dog that we rescued 5 months ago. Rescued at age 8 from a hoarding situation in Texas with 30 doggie siblings no people... He has never been alone in his life and we couldn't leave the house at all because of his anxiety. He is a super calm dog otherwise (can sleep and relax ANYWHERE!) but the second we leave...it's madness. We started doing the treats when he relaxes in his special room, and recently bought a remote feeder. He LOVES being alone in his room now -- and will often leave our side even as we eat dinner to go hang out in the room. We haven't tried with the closed door yet, but this is truly the first hope we've had in MONTHS. He actually LIKES being alone now. Thank you, this is giving us our life back.
We're so happy to read this, so glad you're moving forward with the protocol and that it's making your lives easier ❤️❤️❤️
Keep up that awesome work you're doing, thank you for sharing 🐾
@@DogsThat This has been a total miracle for us! You have no idea! Just left him alone for over an hour and we've truly been only doing it for 2 weeks!
Because we love our dogs deeply, we want to do as much to help them. Only through deep love, we feel convicted to do more for our dogs. Otherwise the work becomes chores.
my dog doesn't respond to cookies, kibble, etc, so snuffle mats, kongs and remote feeders do no good. He has great nutrition, gets plenty of exercise and knows how to relax completely as long as he knows where I am. I hit a dead end every time training involves food rewards of any kind
Maybe swap the food dispenser for a ball dispenser
It depends on many factors, some dogs are simply not food driven enough. However, the question is why? Many people leave the food dayround for the dog for free and even if not then from the first day on this planet the dog has free food - in these cases the food will forever have very low value to the dog.
Imagine as a human you'd get a monthly allowance of money from the day you're born till the day you die, and it would increase as you age and according to your needs, would you in your complacency would go and put effort and work for more money? Most people probably won't.
In the highly unlikely case that the food drive is simply low because of some inherent temperament - you'll have to develop a drive for play in the dog, and in medium and below energy dogs this is going to be waaaay harder than increasing their food drive.
It may be helpful to try higher value treats to start out with. Try cut up beef jerky, freeze dried liver or hearts (cut to appropriate size), soft training bites.
Train before feeding, when they are hungry and the treats gain even more value.
If your dog is very stressed by you leaving, then they may be past their threshold and not eating due to that. If that is the case then you may need to proceed in smaller steps. Good luck!
Try giving a Good breakfast in the morning. Make it the biggest and best of the day.
Last meal late evening. If you you try this food will be more appealing. Ive had a super separation anxiety dog i know what its like, i had to take him EVERYWHERE all of the time it was a pain but i was in a position where I was able to do this.
Obviously this isnt a option for everyone so the best advice i can give for what its worth is be calm before you're about to leave him. take it out of your head because they are ultra perceptive. You are their everything for a dog like this so try and be totally calm and when you leave do all you can to make him feel better.
I think a lot of it is about training yourself in order for it to filter to your dog.
Best of luck and im sure you WILL make this work. 🤞
My dog doesn’t care much about those things either. The only food related item that she responds to is dried cow trachea/ ear/ hoof/ snout ect. She LOVES it (but it’s kinda stinky). I think because it’s not something that she’ll just eat, she has to lick and chew it, so it’s really entertaining. Worth giving it a try :)
This will be my salvation! My daughter has a dog with extreme separation anxiety. I have a three month old rescue that I was determined not to let that happen and failed miserably. I feel trapped at home because I want to train her to be happy alone without me. I had to leave for an hour put her in her crate and now she’s afraid of the crate.
You can totally do this, Annette! Please, try the protocol and let us know how you go ❤
How did it go?
Iv seen sooooo many videos even experts i love. But you amased me how spot on this is!! Thank you and i hope more people finds this video! Its truly amazing tips and ideas!
Thanks so much, hope you give the training a try and let us know how you do with it 💓
I live in a one bedroom small apartment. All of 760 square ft. My husky mix is fine as long as I don’t go through the apartment door. He often follows me around the apartment, but not always. I work from home and keep my bedroom door closed during the day. Was an issue for a day or so and then he’s fine all day. I’ve got cameras to keep an eye out in case it gets into mischief.
I can even leave during the day and it’s not a big deal. Evening and night though. Within seconds of me shutting the front door he’s howling or whining.
Now I’m just three weeks into our relationship. He’s a rescued. 14 months old or so. He paces. He whines. He barks. He looks out the window. Lays by the door. Very stressed.
When I’m here at night he’s chill and relaxed. He’s not into toys. Food toys he likes but ignored when I leave the apartment.
I’m looking for ideas on how to utilize the partial barrier. All I can think is a baby gate on the front door and a way to keep that door open.
Open to ideas. We walk over 2 miles a day. Free running not an option.
Same here. Our dog does great up until we leave the house.
I left today for work......Alaskan Husky rescue. My front room is absolutely trashed .....window blinds and all.
Unbelievable 😮 I had no idea
separation anxiety takes time to change. you are only 3 weeks in. it took us 6 months of consistent work, training using the subthreshold method and frida method.
i would say, keep doing door desensitization exercises for months. this means, going to the door, touching the door, opening the door, grabbing your things, but never leaving.
then when your dog acts normal when you do all this stuff, you leave for 1 second. yup. u start at 1 second.
then 2 second. then 15 seconds. build it up to a minute, then 15 mins, 50 mins . this needs to happen VERY SLOWLY. take. your. time. be patient. watch their body cues on your camera feed.
its a hard problem to fix and medication helps so much, but you still need to address the root cause. the root cause is because the dog is afraid its being abandoned, so the way to address that is showing the dog you always come back before they need to worry.
This was so great to watch, sadly the shelters are full of these poor sad dogs who need this info.
So we started this about a month ago with our 3 year old shepard malinois mix rescue. He was in kennels for all of his life with no family so he has a lot of issues to work through. Mostly with reactivity and fence guarding. Before watching this video we were putting him on his bed and then walking outside and incrementally getting out the door for longer periods but the progress was so slow. Even though we didnt follow the steps exactly, as our treat dispenser could be a bit slow at times, we just left the house today for 2 and a half hours and he calmed down and slept for most of it. He didnt seem bothered by the treats we left out for him and he was ocassionally checking the door for us but other than that it was so much better than when we left him a few months ago. We were scared we wouldnt be able to leave him again for a long time so really pleased to have found this video and used some of the methods combined with some relaxation protocol. 😊 Much appreciated from the UK
As someone who gets panic attacks, I've always hated the advice for dealing with separation anxiety in dogs, and now that I have one with that issue, I dislike it even more. I see in him the exact issues humans go through--too big of a trigger and they lose all their progress. I really like the idea of this protocol and hope me and my puppy can manage this!
Hi, please give the protocol a try and come back to share how it's going! ❤️
Three months ago my husband and I purchased an almost 3 year old (born March 2020 = "covid puppy") not knowing she suffered terriby from SA. She attached primarily to me. She does kind of okay if home alone with my husband but he pretty much has to keep her busy. I rarely leave and if we both have to leave I make arrangements to take her to one of 3 or 4 friends who are willing to have her visit. It's been tough on us all.
We spent $250 on a consultation with a positiver reinforcement trainer, who want another $500 for 4 sessions. We couldn't afford that so we developed our own plan. Your video is such an encougement because it validates our decision to purchase and begin using Treat and Train. We've only had it two days and now we know better how to implement the relaxation protocol and how to eventually phase it out. Thank you so very much for giving us a plan.
But, since we're not there yet I am putting in my two cents to show my support for Nadine and Simone's program in English. I bet it won't cost as much as a professional trainer (i.e. $750)!
I would be interested in any separation anxiety support and hope Nadine and Simone can do a program in English. I have seen several approves and not sure which one would be best for my dog
Hi, I experienced truly same process. Could you over it? Is it still continuing?
@ I wish I could tell you the rest of the story but the people we got this sweet dog from contacted us a short time later because their youngest daughter really missed her. Long story short, they willingly took her back. We will never know the rest of her story.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ My heart was so warmed by this training for separation anxiety! So refreshing to see the doggos treated by the trainers in such a patient and humane manner. You’re right! This is such a different approach! It makes so much sense to teach and begin the process by training them how to relax. Excellent advice and coaching … Thank You.
I will keep this in mind as I shape my puppy in different experiences by using these techniques, even if he doesn’t have severe anxiety… it’s just a nice way to leave your dog. Handy for when we dog sit as well! Cant wait for tonight! 🎉
You’ve given the best advice that I’ve seen, thank you!
Thank you! We'll love to hear how the training is working for you and your dog! ❤️
This is THE BEST YT upload I've seen on this topic. Thank you for sharing your infinite wisdom!!!!
Brilliant......sounds very similar to Presence doesn't mean Access, that Absolute Dogs (England)have been doing for a while. I think it's fabulous that these young, knowledgeable trainers, vet's, and behaviourists are coming up with excellent new ways of teaching dogs. We're on the cusp of a tsunami, in kind ways of teaching animals and I'm excited to be a part of it. Thanks to all of you for helping Dogs live their best lives ❤️
I think they use similar tools, but the program is absolutely nothing the same Marie. I have never heard of any other dog trainer or behaviors. Take this type of approach to separation anxiety.
Marie, I agree as an AD geek that they are similar but I will definitely combine them both. Thank you Susan.
Oh goodness, please don't misconstrued my comment as being a slight on these 2 innovative young women. I was merely sighting other trainers who do similar training/coaching to show gratitude for all those training with kindness and showing dogs to be the marvellous creatures they are. Obviously, these two women have a unique approach as they have designed it. Please forgive me, I really didn't mean any disrespect 🙏 I'm just trying to soak up all this amazing knowledge. Oh, and Happy International Women's Day.❤️ see you later on your live whoop whoop
@@mariebutler6619 Sometimes leaving simple comments can be like walking a tightrope, no? 🥰Love and light to you!💕💞🐕💞💕
this is one of the most useful and interesting tutorials about seperation anxiety i have ever seen. thank you
Thank you, Mona, hope your results with it are great! ❤️
I love that you said.. "If you are anything like me, one will do but 30 or 40 will be amazing!" I'm on my 7th bed for two dogs!... and will buy more. It was 5 beds for one dog.
Thank you for sharing this, as I don't speak or read German.
SHEW. ..I wish I had help like this a few years back...adopted a German haired pointed from a shelter...it was SO BAD for everyone. ..me the other dogs and the poor poor pointer.....I'm crying a I say this but I eventually let him go over the rainbow bridge. ..THANK YOU for this podcast...granny owned by a cattle dog.
So sorry you had to go through this, Kerry, but thank you for sharing ❤
Hopefully, the FRIDA protocol helps others going through the same 🐕
I just rescued a terrier corgi mix and she is glued to my hip. Thank you so much, shes good at just hanging out in whatever room and chilling but when i remove myself from any situation shes on 100. Definitely going to try this more positive approach.
We'll love to hear about how the training is going! If you'd like to learn more about Susan's game based training, join us in the free series we're hosting this week: doggyflix.com/yt/season-of-nuance
My girl slobbers when she is in her. Crate
I would love a whole podcast on nutrition.
Hi Jenny, suggestion noted, thank you! In the meantime, Susan shares a bit about nutrition and other important elements for longevity in this podcast: ruclips.net/video/YZaL_vRTXu4/видео.html
I really like the partial barrier!! I feel like that's a part where dogs get stuck a lot, as soon as that barrier is closed the stress comes out. I work in a daycare, I am going to try this with some of our dog friends who find barriers challenging!
Great idea, Emma, please let us know how that goes!
Absolutely brilliant Epic Episode 200. I don't have a dog with SA but I can totally see how these well thought out steps can work. Wow, way to showcase new talent, Susan! And congrats on 200 brilliant, enlightening, entertaining and humorous episodes. Gems, all. ❤️🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪
Congratulations on 200 podcasts. They are all amazing ❤🎉
My dog just takes those snuffle mats and chucks it in the air watching all the food fly!!!
Smart dog. What does the dog do with a towel rolled ut as a burito with treats i and then tied as lise a knot on the middle, works for my smart dog.
@@iknowyouwanttofly my dog will eat the towel
Same
I’ve taught my dog to stay calm and be independent. But I also wanna recommend calming dog music from RUclips. My dog likes piano. That was a true game changer.
Absolute game changer - works in minutes. Works on my dad too
Video game music is another great option, as it is literally *designed* to be background noise AND to elicit specific moods. Added bonus is you can stream loops of your chosen song or playlist for free on most smart TVs. I put on the same 10hr video of Skyrim music every time I leave the house, and the dogs have acclimated to it so well that as soon as it starts playing they all go to their favorite spots on the couch and pass out before I even have my shoes on. :P
@@eviciousthetalon8608 What a great idea! I'm going to try the Skyrim music too! Thank you for the suggestion!
I have a new puppy with severe SA as well. In fact I've been in contact with Recaller's support staff and working with a behaviorist. But we are still having strong problems, I haven't left the house in 7 weeks? without her or having someone at home bc I hate to have her go over threshold that badly for a longer length of time. We are using a lot of these techniques but not in this order, so willing to give anything a try to help this sweet baby. Otherwise this is an outgoing, happy girl, it's simply heartbreaking to have her this anxious. Signed up for the protocol in English already!
Hello, are you working with a CSAT (Certified Separation Anxiety Trainer)? I don't think there is a better program available then the ones CSAT's offer. It is worth noting, though, that separation anxiety behaviors can take months to resolve. Nice work having someone with your puppy to prevent going over-threshold!
@@dogtrainingplus i concur, i did a workshop with a CSAT trainer...what a difference it made! we are a success story!
@@ecupcakes2735 I'm so glad to hear that!
My dog had really bad SA when he came to me. I couldn't go to the bathroom alone without him barking. Julie Niasmith and her subthreshold training helped, returning before he went over his anxiety threshold. As well as not allowing him to follow me to the door, building routine, and the treat throwing Furbo camera.
May I ask, how long did it take for you to manage the SA?
What I wouldn’t give to be mentored by you!!
this sounds good bc what you described at the beginning is my dog, extreme anxiety. but it wasn't always like this. he had to be hospitalized for 3 days in September and came home this way. He isn't even the same dog. He loses his mind everytime I'm separated from him now and before he was always very independent. I do have a few hiccups id like some advice on before getting started with this method .
hes a senior and isn't interested in toys or running anymore. he just wants to sleep, and does unless I leave then he will bark for hours and hours. that includes just leaving the room, its extreme. second, I have a 2 story home and he can't get up the stairs. he doesn't sleep in my room so I'm not sure how the step of leaving him outside the room would work...unless I try it with my office during the day. hes currently on medication to manage this but I want him healed, not medicated.
@yeshuaismyking894 thank you so much about doing everything you can to help your boy 💙 Use where you can both access and are comfortable. You don't mention your boy's age but the sudden presentation of anxiety to this extent would be worth talking to your vet about. We're grateful your dog has you to help him.
@DogsThat hes around 15 or 16 actually. I don't know what his early life was like because he was a rescue but I feel like his overnight stay at the vet could have triggered something possibly
thank you
I’d so love to hear more. I’ve been literally training my dog almost every day for two years and still no joy.
I’ve put her on medication and this still hasn’t worked. I’ve been a prisoner in my own own as I live alone. If I could solve this even to just go to the gym for an hour I’d be forever grateful.
Susan - I love your podcasts. They all make so much sense and you are funny and entertaining at the same time. I think you are one of the best trainers there are so to introduce these trainers on separation anxiety I believe can be the solution. How I would love for you to help my dog when others have told me to rehome her.
Hello! Has your dog's behavior improved? There are positive reinforcement training methods that work to resolve separation anxiety.
WOO-HOO episode #200 !!!! Thank you Susan for all the direction, guidance and encouragement !!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Hi Susan!! My puppy Hudson (chihauhua spaniel mix) is 5 months old and we are dealing with heavy separation anxiety! He howls non stop whenever I leave (in his crate, in a penned area, or free roaming). Last week he howled for 3 hours straight till I got home.
I’ll admit it’s my fault, I didn’t leave him alone nearly close to enough from the day I brought him home!! He is very well behaved, nondestructive and great at asking to go outside to use the bathroom which is why I let him roam free in the house since day 1.
I am now trying to curb this anxiety by getting him a penned off area in the living room and plan to cut away his free roaming capabilities. My thinking is this will help him be more comfortable when I leave since he will be in there for hours at a time when I am home as well!
Would love any feedback or correction/alternatives to this plan!
I have a 6 year old Cavalier who was rescued from a puppy mill who has terrible separation anxiety. I'm so glad I found your channel and this protocol. I would love to have the FRIDA online program in English. For now, we are following your instructions from this video. Thank you for sharing this program!!
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I rescued a husky a year ago, and she definitely suffers from seperation anxiety. She is very calm and relaxed, but only with me. When leaving her in the car for example, if I get more than a few feet away she starts doing the husky howls and yaps. If i leave a window down too far she leaps out of my truck. I have tried everything, even calming chews. I had been giving her rawhide bones or special treats to distract her, but she soon became wise to that and watches me to make sure im not going anywhere, and ignores toys, food and treats. I'll have to try these methods and see if they work, but huskies are not so easily persuaded Im finding out, lol
Ive trained all of the dogs ive owned and she is by far the hardest to train. Shes a very affectionately pup. She will wake up from a nap and if im in bed she will crawl up into bed with me and lay against me.
Hi did you solve your problem with your husky? Just checking ; same like us
I am going to attempt this, my challenge is that I’ve been moving around for over a year so having a space for the dog like you suggest is a challenge…
Thank you so much. We are gonna give it a try bc the leave them method isn't working. She is just so upset to be alone.
We just brought home a rescue who would benefit from this. I am starting with baby step since I'm not ready to get a remote feeder and am reinforcing when he lays around relaxed. I have noticed though since he is only about 4 days in with us he is never fully relaxed even when in positions that usually mean "i'm so relaxed", he is always ready to hop up as soon as anyone in the room moves and regularly goes looking for my fiance who he took an instant liking to.
@ciannacoleman5125 You're doing great! Just keep up with that gentle reinforcement and allow him time to acclimate. Keep in mind that the FRIDA technique will be even more helpful in the long run! (Julie - DogsThat Team)
This really makes sense! I do not have a dog with separation anxiety but I am going to make sure I don’t with this!
Brilliant! So easy. Thanks, Frida and Susan.
This is brilliant. I cannot wait to try this out. Our dog has the worst separation anxiety I’ve ever seen. So I’m hoping this will help. Thank you so much for this video!
Thank you, please try the protocol and let us know how you and your dog us doing 💖
@@DogsThatmy 4 month old Miniature American Shepherd has attached himself to me big time. He won’t listen to my husband hardly at all! I have had my husband take him out, feed him, play with him, all to no avail. If I leave the room/house and he is in his pen or crate, he carries on like no bodies business. I don’t have the remote feeder yet, but do have many treat toys which I put in with him and once they are empty, he starts going crazy barking.
Absolutely love it!
I thank you ❤
You’re one of a kind - generous 🤗
Thank you, Dorte 💕 we're so grateful to have you in our community!
Your video showed up in my suggstions at the perfect time. You are describing my little Luna to a T. She really needs to gain some independence. It breaks my heart that she feels like she can't be apart from me when I leave the room much less leave the house. In truth we had considered rehoming her because I can't leave her alone ever and we've had her since November. I have had to put her on medication to help with her anxiety but when we try to couple that with conventional treatments it just doesn't work. I am typing this as I work from home and she is in her crate right now whining because I am not making eye contact with her. She is literally less than five feet from me but her crate is turned in the other direction so she can't see me only hear me. It's maddening at times because I feel like I'm being held hostage by an adorable furry being that doesn't get that I need to work to pay for her meds and her puppy food and toys.
Hi Nikki, thank you for sharing your challenge with us, we're sorry you and little Luna are going through this. Please, give the protocol a go and let us know how it works for you! 💕
I’m sitting a 14 year old dog for the next three weeks. SA to the max. Day 3 I’ve tried Rescue Remedy drop on food , not that successful. Did essential oil, frankincense, lavender and balance, massaged the oil over his coat several times throughout the day, diffuser with lavender, started to work. But, the best was using the dog bed and just keep directing back to the bed with treat. Sound asleep🎉🎉
This is the first time I've had to check out this podcast. Well done! Great information, thank you.❤️
Thank you for watching!! We are so glad you found us
Great episode, congrats on 200!! So much great info you've put out into the world for everyone for free, thank you so much!! This protocol makes so much sense.
amazing video❤
Thank you, thank you! You have given me hope that I might one day have my life back and my beautiful, sweet boy might one day be ok being apart from me. ❤️❤️❤️
You got this, Janeen! Try the protocol and let us know how it goes! ❤
Thank you SO MUCH for this episode, Susan! I will be starting this protocol ASAP, for SA in the house and my dog's fear of riding in the car. ❤
Hi Susan, this is so simple and so great. Thank you for doing this. This is going to be a huge help to so many dogs
Brilliant! LOVE THIS
My chi has such severe SA that she destroyed the feeding puzzles I got due to SA. She destroys everything if she's left alone.
Hi! I'm from Germany! And Simon and Nadine are so fantastic. Unfortunately, we have so much else to learn right now. Therefore we could not book the German program now. I hope to do another course this year.
Hi Frida, just learning about your techniques, so exciting.. I get extreme anxiety and the most explosive reactions when we are in the car and I attempt to stop car and get out. I get this even if my dog knows I am walking around to let him out, or if I am stopping to go into the gas station. its the action of stopping car, (anxious bark) putting into park, turning off engine (frantic bark, clawing) and opening my door (full blown panic)
How/where do I start or adapt your program to the car? (I dont get the separation anxiety if Im home and leave) although we get SOME if I leave him in house and I am in backyard, OR if someone (my husband attempts to take him on leash away from me)
We have been working on functional relaxation with our 8 month old beagle pup. Everything was going well, until he decided that eating his blankets/bedding is more rewarding than relaxing on or near them. We give him plenty of options to shred and destroy appropriate things, and lots of exercise. Any tips?
Hey did you have any success?
thanks for this video Susan!! we’re planning our next puppy and i want to train this one to relax right off the hop. this protocol is exactly what i was looking for.
Beautiful Contant. I am from Germany and I understand both, smile. I also call my little dog shreddie 😛
Another great episode, thank you! ❤SA is a difficult problem for the owners. I 'm curious that in the whole process - which can take weeks of course - can the dog be left alone in the house? Most of the protocols insist on, understandably, not to, which is quite difficult to the owner. What is your suggestion?
Glad I found your RUclips channel. Thank you
I'm in a country where the remote feeder is not easily accessible and a Wi-Fi camera would cost a lot of money... but we can always adapt. Thank you for this video for some different techniques hopefully it will help my street dog who has some sever separation anxiety
Thank you, we're so glad it's helpful, even if you have to adapt it to your situation ❤ Please, come back to share how it goes!
If you have a older smartphone laying around, you can install Skype and create an account for your dog (I did that for mine). Activate the automatic call answering in the settings and you're good to go (literally). Doesn't help with the remote feeder, but makes an easy, affordable (Skype is for free) WiFi camera.
There is also a phone app called "Alfred Camera". You install it on an older smartphone not in use and your phone. The older phone becomes a camera you can set up with a tripod or something to watch your dog. Alfred is a free app.
Thank you for this episode! Excited to try some of these things! One question, does this mean that I should abandon the hope of getting my anxious dog to love her crate?
I have the same question.
Woinderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! love it
Would love to see Frida Protocol in English please !!!
Thank you so much for sharing this, Susan. My dog is very attached to me and much less so to my partner. We have done protocols for relaxation that have helped him so when I am gone for a work day, he does well. But if I go away, for the weekend for example, he cries and paces at night and is very stressed even though my partner is here. I am wondering how to do the protocol so he is more relaxed with my partner when I am gone for more than just a day.
Hi I enjoyed your video, my dog is 15 months old, he chewed his stuffed toys, he ripped his snuffle mat up, he relaxes all the time I’m with him the minute I move he’s up, he would walk away from a feeder after a while as he would be bored, I’ve crate trained him but he goes so nuts he jumps in the crate and moves it while he’s barking…….do you have any other tips I can’t leave the house.
Awesome teaching!
Thank you, Heather! ❤️🐾
Thank you for your help!
If you are struggling (like I was!) to implement this type of SA training on your own - Jenn Gavin may be able to help you. She developed her own SA training method using a remote feeder. Jenn was recommended to me by a veterinary behaviorist that had just spent a week at Jenn’s facility (A Pleasant Dog, Grand Rapids, Michigan). It’s early days (a month in, 3 Zoom sessions so far), but we’re already light years ahead (20 min monitored alone time already!) of the standard SA training with a qualified SA trainer that we tried and failed at (multiple regressions) for over a year. Jenn also wrote a handbook (Pleasantly Independent) that is very detailed and easy to follow. But if you’ve tried the standard SA approach, I highly recommend scheduling sessions with Jenn to maximize chances of success - she’s amazing.
My dog does not suffer SA but I would love to see Nadine and Simone more often. Thank you so much for the nutrition tips. I will increase good oil (Krill or hempseed) and low carb boiled vegetable and decrease protein a bit. Hard to find the good balance.
Awesomeness! Thank you, I loved this!!
You are so welcome, Jane! We're grateful for having you in our community 💕
Love it love it love it! So many great inspiration for puppies as well 🥰
My puppy husky has have his ups and downs in crate training and separation anxiety. But at least we’ve gone from him not even allowing me to take a shower in peace with all the crying and howling, from being able to do that. But it’s still a struggle to leave the house. I had some questions.
-Regarding the diet, he’s eating a cooked low carb diet (I buy a barf brand, but he doesn’t like to eat it raw). Is it okay to add more veggies? I’m concerned about the proper diet for a dog, since they come from carnivorous ancestors.
-We’ve been training the functional calmness exercises, but my issue is that he will focus on me with firm attention, which normally would be a good thing, but he won’t relax. He’s waiting for me to give him the rewards, but my objective is for him to be calm instead of inquisitive about when the reward may come. This is reflected on how he will be in a down position, and then just sit, and then start barking, which is him being excited and impatient. Even if I build duration, I’m building duration of this state of being eager for treats, rather than calm.
-Also, my pups instead of sniffing and the snuffle mat, he’ll just shake it and drop all the treats 😅. One could think it’s quite the genius move, since he doesn’t have to sniff and find the treats, but it defeats the purpose!
Really enjoyed, thanks.
Can this be done x2? I'm training 2 rescues at the same time as a pack. I was setting up almost this exact thing other than the snuffle mat.
So much fabulous information!!!!! I would love to have Frida protocol in English to add to my tool box❣️
fabulous advice, what would you do if you have 3 dogs together?
I have the furbo camera that works as a treat dispenser, would you say that it would be detrimental if the treat dispenser is a bit further away from the dog? In the sense that when she is calm she would have to stand and maybe walk to pick up the treat?
This has been my struggle too. I haven't been able to get my puppy to not stand up to eat the treat. I'm trying to reward him for being calm and relaxed.
Fascinating! I want to try this with Annie. She hates the car, for example.
Thank you, Rebecca 💕 We're looking forward to hearing how Annie does with the protocol
When working this process and you are on step 1, how do you work with the dog when you have to say leave the house?
I’m interested in the program in English.
Do you have any videos on sibling issues who steel each others food!
Hi, we have a playlist on resource guarding prevention and help: ruclips.net/video/11bkaaX7LXY/видео.html&pp=gAQBiAQB
I really enjoyed this episode thank-you. I don't have a dog with separation anxiety but I do have one who struggles to stay calm when the delivery people turn up. I've done the Karen Overall relaxtion protocol and had some success . Still more to do though. I'm sure this protocol could be adapted for delivery drivers! .
So, my dog , Clay would ignore the toy, chew-up the Snuffle Mat and dog bed, jump over the barrier, could care less about the food and he gets a ton of exercise on my 2 1/3 acres. His attention span on training is about 3 minutes. Ugh. He does have pretty good nutrition, but I could step that up. He does like a good foot massage, but his relaxation could improve.
Can the mat be their crate?
Awesome video!
I’ve a 7 month pup he has serious separation anxiety from me..I’m disabled so have problems sometimes reaching to him..he is a cross Yorkshire terrier/ chihuahua I have been trying to crate train him..he’s pretty good when I’m at home but extremely bad when I leave him
How would you adjust this if you need to leave your dog in a crate instead? Just moving an open crate around instead of the 3 sided barrier?
What is you have a puppy that can’t be left with a bed/ topple or kong? My puppy loves to chew and shred so I can’t leave enrichment in her crate with her.
What did they feed Frida, exactly? Was it raw protein with fruits and veggies as you mentioned?
Nice work
This is great - thank you. My working cocker spaniel is fine if I leave the house, but he can’t bear it if I leave a room. Will be using these steps. Would this still be SA though, or FOMO. He also can’t even handle it if he’s on a boundary and I’m on the sofa or letting the other dog out for the toilet. Other Podcast suggestions welcome. Thanks
Hi Susan, my husband and I are trying this protocol on our super separation-anxious pittie girl.... gradually, she's chillaxing in the other room with her remote pet feeder friend and we're watching her on the wifi-cam... this is great progress for her.
One question: is it a bad idea to keep rewarding through pet feeder once they're basically asleep? It might be counter-productive to wake them up for a treat... just a bit unsure.
Thanks for the video. My dog as separation anxiety according to the overnight kennel. How can the protocol work at the kennel?
After watching this, I finally have some hope for my 3-year-old red nose pit, Zachary 🥹🥹 I think he’s doing much better with the work I’ve personally done, but this is where I’m struggling and need some help. THANK YOU!!
I guess my first concern before I even start, how do you think it’ll work for me if I have to leave him at certain times throughout the day? When I go to the gym, or grocery shopping, even to work? Like I know I can’t just put that stuff on hold so I can help Zachary out…like I’m just worried about self-sabotage so to speak, if that makes sense.
How is the progress going with haveing this avalible in english?
@iknowyouwanttofly The FRIDA protocol is not quite ready in English, but you can reach out to Nadine and Simone via their website with your questions as they have coached many people with similar challenges.
Here is the website contact details for you (both Nadine and Simone are very fluent in English):
www.lebenmithunden.eu/pages/kontakt
The email address is - info@lebenmithunden.eu
(Julie - DogsThat Team)
What a great topic for episode 200! Thanks for this podcast, it is as brilliant as all the others. I have a dog that has separation anxiety and I will definitely try this approach. I am German, but live in the States now, so either way would be fantastic. I have a question though, my dog is crate trained and he loves his crate. He goes in there on his own when he is tired. I want to let him roam free eventually, but before I can trust him making good choices without us, I would rather have him in his crate when we leave him alone. Does FRIDA also works with a crate as a barrier instead of the XPEN?
no. FRIDA protocol should be used , without a crate. Room or gate barriers work well. The point of FRIDA is to give your dog choices to relax & have more freedom without being attached to you
“If one will do then 30 or 40 are amazing!” Oh yeah! I am just like you! Lol!
How do we keep the dog from climbing to get to the remote feeder?
I have a question!
This is super wonderful and I'm super excited to begin the protocol with my dog BUT while still in the process of my dog learning the protocol, should I just do what I'm currently doing when I have to leave him and leave it separate from the protocol for now (since this will take some time)?
That’s a great question! I was wondering this as well, even though I don’t have an anxious dog, I want to know.
Hello! If you leave a dog with separation anxiety for more than he can handle, it will sensitize him to alone-time, making the behavior worse (rather than desensitize). If you think of it like you're gradually building trust, working on only leaving for amounts of time he can comfortably handle, then you leave him to a point he panics, it will destroy not only your progress but your dog's trust in the training process.
Furbo dog camera also allows you to ejects treats from the app!