You got your desk! Nice! Got a Klark. it was brocken on arrival! Never sound good and wasn't repairable! Changed to the WA76 from Warm Audio and never regret it!
I own the WA76.. it's a good surprise. Much colored sound, instantly sounding good, even with excessive tweak (you can't be excessive that much with plugins for instance)
@MixbusTV thanks for the Great Video - i personaly use as hardware WES Audio Beta 76 2x and 1 WES Audio Timbre - all you Need and dope . for Plugins i habe a softube console one and the UA Comps.One questions what is this lights u have on ur black monitors? Looks awesome. Greetings and all the best
Opto 500 series? It would be this one from Stam stamaudio.com/shop/500-series/stam-audio-3a-5-opto-compressor/ but it's in back order. Acme 500 series is cool if you want a ton of color, Chandler limited still color but more versatile, Buzz Essence for very versatile and clean-ish but don't overlook the Wes Rhea, it's a MU but man it's amazing
Great studio, I love your videos! I'm wondering about one thing about using specific gear/plugins in the mix/mastering. How many compressor /eq's do you actually really need? Especially in the stem processing - you use it in a rather subtle way. There' s no way you can tell the difference in a blind test, what kind of compressor was used on the particular stem if it's just touching the mix within 1dB range of gain reduction in 1:1.5 ratio. So does it really matter what kind of VCA compressor you use? Seems like you could go away with just classic SSL G comp on every track. Or am I wrong and pro mixing engineers can really tell the difference?
Yes we can tell the difference, that's why you see so many things in my desk :D The classic G comp especially doesn't even have a sc so that alone would make it very hard to put on every bass heavy material, but also, not exactly a first choice on vocals or other things. Regardless, maybe you use it so lightly but that's not always the case nor the norm in a professional mix. Remember things change dramatically if you're only mixing your own stuff or if you're a mix engineer mixing for clients. If you mix your stuff, you just need what you need for your stuff, can be 1 or 2 I don't know, but even in that scenario, wouldn't you want your music to sound the best it can? Otherwise why doing it (unless you make money out of it but in that case, one more reason for wanting the best or hiring an engineer) But, with that said, nobody can tell what compressor anyone used on anything (aside few very recognizable sounds and behavior, mostly extreme) so it's not that a mix engineer can pick up what someone used in a mix, it can tell if that mix could have sounded better.
Hi David Ive been thinking about buying the Fatso to use on my drum bus to replace the pair of DBX 560A's. Would you say its more of a tape saturator than a compressor? I haven't seen you bring it up on any of your compressor vids. I already have a pair of 542's on my mixbus. The 560's to me are more transparent/clean and I want to add more color and grit to my drums. Or what would be other options other than the Fatso? Thanks for the info!!!
I love the fatso, I came close to get one so many times. It's a killer unit on drums, and yes and no, I wouldn't say it's more of a saturator, is a compressor at the core, with fixed settings, but it definitely has many options for color/saturation. Having 4 distressors tho' and the Drawmer 1976 multiband saturator, it would be redundant for me but it's a great unit. UAD plugin tho' gets scary close
Most fet are based on the 1176 design which doesn't have a threshold, we could consider that the exceptions and not the norm, but it's so popular that yeah, kind of became the norm in a way. 1176 and 73 are such different design, 76 is designed to change the sound as you drive the input while increasing compression, 73 simply uses threshold and being a multiband you definitely want individual control over the three bands and not mess with the gain staging of a signal going in.
I got the Klark Teknik 76-kt, there are several different Versions out there. I really like mine, but I did some mods to it. Like it alot on heavy Vocals with a good amount of compression
Out of the clones, which one you like splice or mimas when it comes to sound (excluding the digital). Do you say either is a good vocal tracking compressor?
thing is since upgrading to my prism titan ad da which killed my old rme ufx etc, i feel even a good cheap hardware unit now after sending and returning to the mix will beat any plugin out due to the high quality signal path of da to ad, will try it, but the prism is so focused david and solid
This channel would triple in size with a $300 DSLR, 24fps, color correction, and some basic video editing skills. Can someone in LA hook David up with a recent art-school grad / video production intern?
8:30 A workwhore compressor! Jokes aside, just wanted to write my opinion after trying the Behringer ("Klark teknik") 1176. It's a very watered down form of 1176, it has not much character in its sound and no authority in the behaviour. Better to save for one of the other compressors mentioned in this video
Its all about you got to have more than just one love, I love making music/mixing/mastering/and geek'n out, but I also love going to the gym. But you are right about fat engineers I was 144kg at my heaviest. ;)
I hope you'll do a '2020 Recording studio tour' video.
Thanks!
Thank you @ralphjamesmaier !!
@@mixbustv Cheers!
Love these vids -- what a great resource. Thanks for doing all these videos David !
which is better on drums
Drawmer 1978 or Daking fet？
You got your desk! Nice! Got a Klark. it was brocken on arrival! Never sound good and wasn't repairable! Changed to the WA76 from Warm Audio and never regret it!
Awesome Desk. Where is it from?
Modson
I recently fell in love with the purple mc77 - that piece in parallel on drums is just UMMPF
Ahh welcome back! Sorry to hear that you got hacked.
Great series of compressors. Hace you tríes Warm Audio 1176 clone?
I was just going to ask about this one.
I own the WA76.. it's a good surprise. Much colored sound, instantly sounding good, even with excessive tweak (you can't be excessive that much with plugins for instance)
Never tried it
I had one and sold it...Harsh, noisy and poor built, unfortunately. Better save for UA.
Great Review!!!!! Thanks for sharing all this info!!!
Hack over back to geek'n out and drooling immensely lol
@MixbusTV thanks for the Great Video - i personaly use as hardware WES Audio Beta 76 2x and 1 WES Audio Timbre - all you Need and dope . for Plugins i habe a softube console one and the UA Comps.One questions what is this lights u have on ur black monitors? Looks awesome. Greetings and all the best
how does the Drawer compare to the Alesis sidechain compressor?
Black Lion makes the "Bluey", I believe. ;)
What about the IGS 576??? been looking at that one...
1176 in 500 series is the Wes Mimas, hands down, can't be beaten
@@mixbustv do you need their chassis or will it work in my API?
@@franklinembrymusic it'll work unless you API is the very very first version like 8 years old or something
@@mixbustv thanks bro 🙏🏻🙏🏻
I read in review igs 576 is not fully discrete
thanks the ongoing amazing vids! I ordered the Mimas thanks to this vid. Do you have any other suggestions on an opto to pair with this for vocals?
Opto 500 series? It would be this one from Stam stamaudio.com/shop/500-series/stam-audio-3a-5-opto-compressor/
but it's in back order. Acme 500 series is cool if you want a ton of color, Chandler limited still color but more versatile, Buzz Essence for very versatile and clean-ish but don't overlook the Wes Rhea, it's a MU but man it's amazing
Great studio, I love your videos! I'm wondering about one thing about using specific gear/plugins in the mix/mastering. How many compressor /eq's do you actually really need? Especially in the stem processing - you use it in a rather subtle way. There' s no way you can tell the difference in a blind test, what kind of compressor was used on the particular stem if it's just touching the mix within 1dB range of gain reduction in 1:1.5 ratio. So does it really matter what kind of VCA compressor you use? Seems like you could go away with just classic SSL G comp on every track. Or am I wrong and pro mixing engineers can really tell the difference?
Yes we can tell the difference, that's why you see so many things in my desk :D The classic G comp especially doesn't even have a sc so that alone would make it very hard to put on every bass heavy material, but also, not exactly a first choice on vocals or other things. Regardless, maybe you use it so lightly but that's not always the case nor the norm in a professional mix. Remember things change dramatically if you're only mixing your own stuff or if you're a mix engineer mixing for clients.
If you mix your stuff, you just need what you need for your stuff, can be 1 or 2 I don't know, but even in that scenario, wouldn't you want your music to sound the best it can? Otherwise why doing it (unless you make money out of it but in that case, one more reason for wanting the best or hiring an engineer)
But, with that said, nobody can tell what compressor anyone used on anything (aside few very recognizable sounds and behavior, mostly extreme) so it's not that a mix engineer can pick up what someone used in a mix, it can tell if that mix could have sounded better.
Hi David Ive been thinking about buying the Fatso to use on my drum bus to replace the pair of DBX 560A's. Would you say its more of a tape saturator than a compressor? I haven't seen you bring it up on any of your compressor vids. I already have a pair of 542's on my mixbus. The 560's to me are more transparent/clean and I want to add more color and grit to my drums. Or what would be other options other than the Fatso? Thanks for the info!!!
I love the fatso, I came close to get one so many times. It's a killer unit on drums, and yes and no, I wouldn't say it's more of a saturator, is a compressor at the core, with fixed settings, but it definitely has many options for color/saturation. Having 4 distressors tho' and the Drawmer 1976 multiband saturator, it would be redundant for me but it's a great unit. UAD plugin tho' gets scary close
What version Pro Tools do you use?
Great video again! I´m kinda interrested in the Fredenstein artistic FET compressor... Has anyone tried it yet?
Never personally, I have a couple of subscribers who didn't like it
Hello David! Could you tell why Drawmer 1973 doesn't have input gain knob as most Fet compressors do?
(Even 1973 plugin has the input knob) Thank you
Most fet are based on the 1176 design which doesn't have a threshold, we could consider that the exceptions and not the norm, but it's so popular that yeah, kind of became the norm in a way. 1176 and 73 are such different design, 76 is designed to change the sound as you drive the input while increasing compression, 73 simply uses threshold and being a multiband you definitely want individual control over the three bands and not mess with the gain staging of a signal going in.
@@mixbustv Thanks! Make sense!
I got the Klark Teknik 76-kt, there are several different Versions out there. I really like mine, but I did some mods to it. Like it alot on heavy Vocals with a good amount of compression
Softube have the Drawmer 1973 plugin on offer July 22nd - 24th. I am counting the days! 😎
So for rock vocals what 500 series compressor? under 1k
Out of the clones, which one you like splice or mimas when it comes to sound (excluding the digital). Do you say either is a good vocal tracking compressor?
Mimas is a great tracking compressor
@@mixbustv have you compared with original in how it sounds
Been looking at the Lindell Audio 77x 500 series, but too familiar with Lindell any thoughts?
You get what you pay for. Many also reported discrepancies between units and that they didn't last that long
@@mixbustv thanks David!
overloud released v2 of there 1176 plugin, but you probably know that already....i did the demo...my drums seem to like it very much
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yo david glad desk is sorted the lab looks swish man, yes yes yes
thing is since upgrading to my prism titan ad da which killed my old rme ufx etc, i feel even a good cheap hardware unit now after sending and returning to the mix will beat any plugin out due to the high quality signal path of da to ad, will try it, but the prism is so focused david and solid
You've mixed Mc Solaar's vocals or is it just me misunderstanding here !?
Yes I mixed the whole album, Geopolitique
❤you’re show David
Did you get your account back? P.S. your frame rate issues are still distracting, the video is so choppy
This channel would triple in size with a $300 DSLR, 24fps, color correction, and some basic video editing skills. Can someone in LA hook David up with a recent art-school grad / video production intern?
I wish someone would make a clone of the UREI 1176 but in a single rack space. As you say, theres very little inside.
Get a Stam ADG, 3 revisions of the Urei in 2U with original components
@@mixbustv id love that- but id definitely want a pair LOL. Thanks for the recommendation!
8:30 A workwhore compressor! Jokes aside, just wanted to write my opinion after trying the Behringer ("Klark teknik") 1176. It's a very watered down form of 1176, it has not much character in its sound and no authority in the behaviour. Better to save for one of the other compressors mentioned in this video
I agree..
ART trans y fett compressor by far sounds like compressors costing four times as much.
They're not cheap at all.
If you think these aren't cheap analog is not a game you want to get in
Great info
Would like to swap a couple of my 160x's for something more suitable for my 5 dollar voice
I’d go with a RNC for that or a Golden Age Comp 2A
Golden Age 2A is freaking awesome
Everyone knows that audio engineers are fat. How can you be an audio engineer and be ripped? Something's wrong here.
Its all about you got to have more than just one love, I love making music/mixing/mastering/and geek'n out, but I also love going to the gym. But you are right about fat engineers I was 144kg at my heaviest. ;)
All the best engineers are fat old white guys. That's what we're all aiming to be one day.
😁 I'd be in jail if I didn't lift