conjures can make up anywhere between 30-60% of your dps depending on the situation. Also based on the necromancy release art, I think we all know the fourth conjure is a phantom.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 more than 4 seems excessive. I would t mind more variety, like, there’s 8 conjures that all have different effects but can only summon 4 at a time
"spirit damage does not work on dag kings at all, so you're left killing whatever these things are. Apparently, they drop mimic kill tokens. Out of frustration I killed a giant mimic" LOL
Isn’t the point of a necromancer to have heavy damage come from his undead army? Come Monday they will be reduced to hitting about as hard as the undead in the varrock sewers…
except your forgetting a 4th conjure that will make up for some of the damage is most likely going to be released with vorkath. Which is why jagex is doing this now.
@surge_8185 Well, Mod ryan did say on reddit in regard to the nerf that players never consider future design plans. So, this seems bad now, but it's not necessarily permanent.
@@anthony3191 I hope you’re right, but given jagex history, I doubt it will be given a buff again in the future unless very minor. They don’t test anything before jumping the gun on any update lol
I don't think the nerfs will be as bad as people think. Conjuring everything at once will save some time and no adren cost means re-conjuring during combat will be viable. Sure it'll hurt damage on short fights or when we have out-of-combat downtime like Zammy, but we also have that 4th conjure coming to make up for that.
Mod Ryan said this isn’t necessarily the final balance. They wanted to bring the conjures to a more grounded level and re-buff them from there. It’s more damaging to the game to leave them too strong than it is to leave them a little on the weaker end.
@@surge_8185 Lol seriously Zombie was like an 80% net nerf. That's an insane nerf. Almost a complete deletion of an ability lmao. It's embarrassing how Jagex handles nerfs.
My guy zombie was fried. Should look at solak kills with bik arrows where 5 zombies are doing 10k hitsplats every 3 ticks. And idt skeleton is even a big nerf, the change just shifted its damage morentowards rage stacks.
9:05 yes and no. the skele has halberd range and if he is standing in halberd range and not directly infront of the boss, the ice blocks his line onf sight so he wont attack. its been quite a thorn in my side for a while
during my grind to 120 I was never short on ectoplasm, but I developed a no conjures bar for situations where they get stuck and I can't promptly re-summon because in combat or something, swap bars and swap back when I can summon them, or if its for something where I don't need to waste the ectoplasm, Ie. Uri, a guthix/zammy wizard, or turadel skipping. Hellhounds task I have a bar that is no conjures, just soul and scythe for those certian trash slayer tasks. The only time I found my self going full pokemon mode is at Raxxor when it's minions path.
My bet is on the Fourth Conjure being a Tanky, Defensive Skeleton Dog like the Summoning Hellhound which offers 20% Damage reduction which is received by the hellhound familiar. Honestly this would be great and would have even further synergy with SuMmoning!
Sadly, yesterday was my day to learn and kill Solak and Ambassador for the T90 gear before the nerfs, but I ran out of time I knew I should have taken advantage of the early adopter perks that Jagex seems to be fond of later nerfing.
@@whynotp2p honestly don’t even need a yak as long as you have your dps up, you proabbly shouldn’t even need to eat deathskulls and conjures do it all for you
not charging ability sounded like one hell of a buff for conjuring but then i read you dont have to keep a lantern out anymore. just to summon them and its a switch because you can summon them all now and put the shield back. so, i guess every skills getting a major overhaul doing twice as much damage. or necromancy just got over buffed. They could have not made a new skill and just made everything from 99-120 summoning "undead"
Interesting people thought balancing was over after the first month. We knew a 4th conjure was coming when you get to level 106. Maybe still be heavy handed in some ways but was always coming.
I dont know serious the nerf is really cause Im not a spreadsheet warrior I just press buttons@@joelmulligan8213 but with a fourth conjure incoming I'm gonna guess it's gonna be better overall
they're not gonna stay strong for long ... i'm a fairly new player and just when i got my hand on fsoa and was learning how to play with it jagex nerfed it now that i got tier 95 necro and learned it, jagex is nerfing it agian (=__=) i'm just unlucky ... i've learned the boss i wanet to learn the most with necro (zamorak) when there was no zuk guide with necro so i had to figure it out myself and now i have a 300% enrage zamorak record but guess i'm gonna start learning it again with new changes .... :( #sad_rs_player
@@kevintjuhh070 ya'll are ignoring one key word "farily new" == "reletively new" i'm playing for more than 1 year now mate. this game got me addicted hard i'm basically maxed other than 5 skills that are 90+ already and i make money trough grinding mostly herblore or firemaking :)
you can check my zamorak kill guide in my channel i recorded it to show my friend but you can watch it as well hope it helps anyone new gladly my rotation for p7 zamorak doesn't revolve around conjoures :)
I love your videos. I'm subscribed to your channel. I really don't like when content creators like you make videos on how broken stuff is. You and other content make jagex nerf these kind of these. Sometimes people who can't pvm can't enjoy it because the pros just complain how broken things are.
I hate to say this, but this video just demonstrates how op the summons are and why they needed a nerf. That said the video will be irrelevant after tomorrow's nerf which is big sad. But uh, I do wonder how dps looks like with necro summons and main hand t90/92 wands.
It’s too much. If you think biking the zombies damage by 80% is balanced then you’re either an idiot or an elitist who cries that his drops aren’t worth as much anymore
Yeah, he did mention in the previous video that he made this before Jagex announced the changes, so he doesn't really have a choice but to release this asap
you happy fix nerf canjur but awsome mtx thet help me safe time on clue you not happy! you car only abaut your salf and your think you doo good! laik maikry tolking too much then rune away too old school rs!
Can you update the info after the conjure nerf?
I think I would like to have Protoxx as my undead summon to massively increase my DPS.
🤣🤣
PvMers: "why does Jagex keep nerfing everything?!"
Why:
thought it was kind of a funny video topic since it will all be wrong after monday
it'll be wrong, but it will actually be easier to do. @@sixpath
conjures can make up anywhere between 30-60% of your dps depending on the situation.
Also based on the necromancy release art, I think we all know the fourth conjure is a phantom.
Could be a dragon if given at vorkath
@@derais6162no.
Let's just hope it doesn't stop at 4 conjures.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 more than 4 seems excessive. I would t mind more variety, like, there’s 8 conjures that all have different effects but can only summon 4 at a time
@@ducksquidbat8315 That's probably what they would do, I just want more to pick from.
this makes hybriding possible which is what youd expect out of this skill.
Hii Protoxx, im new to RS3 and ur videos are really helping me out , keep it up bro
Welcome to the community!
Good to see new players! Welcome to RS :)
NEW TO RS3! maybe Jagex did something right?!?! Welcome!
It’s not a boulder…..it’s a rock! 🥹
i hope 4th conjure is a golem of sorts
The POINT is that you can Hybrid Sword/Mage/Range and Shield, while still doing massive damage with conjures.
"spirit damage does not work on dag kings at all, so you're left killing whatever these things are. Apparently, they drop mimic kill tokens. Out of frustration I killed a giant mimic"
LOL
Isn’t the point of a necromancer to have heavy damage come from his undead army? Come Monday they will be reduced to hitting about as hard as the undead in the varrock sewers…
Jagex... That's the answer.
except your forgetting a 4th conjure that will make up for some of the damage is most likely going to be released with vorkath. Which is why jagex is doing this now.
@@anthony3191 that’s not confirmed to be the reason.. I’m sure the new conjure will be good and then get nerfed into the ground also.
@surge_8185 Well, Mod ryan did say on reddit in regard to the nerf that players never consider future design plans. So, this seems bad now, but it's not necessarily permanent.
@@anthony3191 I hope you’re right, but given jagex history, I doubt it will be given a buff again in the future unless very minor. They don’t test anything before jumping the gun on any update lol
Happy to have this as we'll be able to compare with the nerfs come tomorrow.
I don't think the nerfs will be as bad as people think. Conjuring everything at once will save some time and no adren cost means re-conjuring during combat will be viable. Sure it'll hurt damage on short fights or when we have out-of-combat downtime like Zammy, but we also have that 4th conjure coming to make up for that.
They went way too heavy handed on the nerfs for conjures. They are supposed to be the core of the skill
Mod Ryan said this isn’t necessarily the final balance. They wanted to bring the conjures to a more grounded level and re-buff them from there. It’s more damaging to the game to leave them too strong than it is to leave them a little on the weaker end.
@@Hirokey123a little on the weaker end? Bruh zombie will be completely useless and the skeleton got a major damage nerf lol
@@surge_8185 Lol seriously Zombie was like an 80% net nerf. That's an insane nerf. Almost a complete deletion of an ability lmao. It's embarrassing how Jagex handles nerfs.
My guy zombie was fried. Should look at solak kills with bik arrows where 5 zombies are doing 10k hitsplats every 3 ticks. And idt skeleton is even a big nerf, the change just shifted its damage morentowards rage stacks.
@@chrisriga47 Skele is a big nerf because the stacking bonus isn't additive anymore. it's multiplicative.
This was very interesting, what a nice discovery!
9:05 yes and no. the skele has halberd range and if he is standing in halberd range and not directly infront of the boss, the ice blocks his line onf sight so he wont attack. its been quite a thorn in my side for a while
What a fantastically done video. Really great stuff sir.
during my grind to 120 I was never short on ectoplasm, but I developed a no conjures bar for situations where they get stuck and I can't promptly re-summon because in combat or something, swap bars and swap back when I can summon them, or if its for something where I don't need to waste the ectoplasm, Ie. Uri, a guthix/zammy wizard, or turadel skipping. Hellhounds task I have a bar that is no conjures, just soul and scythe for those certian trash slayer tasks.
The only time I found my self going full pokemon mode is at Raxxor when it's minions path.
Conjures WERE stronger than you think
So you did release it before Monday. Always good content
Yep! ^^
My bet is on the Fourth Conjure being a Tanky, Defensive Skeleton Dog like the Summoning Hellhound which offers 20% Damage reduction which is received by the hellhound familiar. Honestly this would be great and would have even further synergy with SuMmoning!
Does the zombie's poison damage combo with Evolving Toxin?
The real MVP minion is the pet boulder.
We gonna need a update version on Monday 🤣
Can't wait till I get up that high in Necromancy to know what the heck you're talking about lmao.
So basicly summon conjures with eof and then switch to salve at rasial?
Sadly, yesterday was my day to learn and kill Solak and Ambassador for the T90 gear before the nerfs, but I ran out of time
I knew I should have taken advantage of the early adopter perks that Jagex seems to be fond of later nerfing.
kill telos and have someone dart amby telos 0% is braindead easy
agreed
@@tylers92
@@YFZ450DOUBLEJUMPER i didn’t even have time to learn any mechanics lol telos was just phased too fast
as a shitter, I can agree get a yak, get the tank armour, use darkness spell. You should easily kill him.
@@whynotp2p honestly don’t even need a yak as long as you have your dps up, you proabbly shouldn’t even need to eat deathskulls and conjures do it all for you
not charging ability sounded like one hell of a buff for conjuring but then i read you dont have to keep a lantern out anymore. just to summon them and its a switch because you can summon them all now and put the shield back. so, i guess every skills getting a major overhaul doing twice as much damage. or necromancy just got over buffed. They could have not made a new skill and just made everything from 99-120 summoning "undead"
will that will get nerfs so bad soon sadly cuz its jagex
I think the original intent for being able summon out four things there could have been an option before release to say summom out four warriors or
So why are they changing it?
Interesting people thought balancing was over after the first month. We knew a 4th conjure was coming when you get to level 106. Maybe still be heavy handed in some ways but was always coming.
Jagex literally said there was a part 2 to necromancy coming out around of after Halloween
@@A_Black_Sheep94 ah fr?
@@zeldapro18 Yea back when it originally dropped, maybe a bit before.
Lol that endin
Rasial?
Nerf kinda took all this away 😂
Y'all remember when ripper demon was better than most players? Now conjures are =)
Not after tomorrow
I dont know serious the nerf is really cause Im not a spreadsheet warrior I just press buttons@@joelmulligan8213 but with a fourth conjure incoming I'm gonna guess it's gonna be better overall
wtf did u do araxxor in 4 mins with only minion dmg lol
Have you tried conjure on rasial?
Nope :/
Pet boulder pretty fangs expensive too
Laughed when u went brrrrrt at arch glacor
ayo, remake this video tomorow re-testing stuff
This ain't a build, it's a torn down building
They are about to get nerfed
It's okay now, other styles will be buffed 😅
it sucks the zombie got from 1mn to 42 scs curse you jagex why you always nerft the good stuft, en fin no volvere a jugar rs
Ah shit it's wednesday already?!
Imagine quad-hybriding lol
May have to with the Rex Matriarch achievent Extention Event when the 4th one comes out.
@@zeldapro18that'll probably stick to the original 3 since osseus will be in a completely different part of the arena
@@thatduck8000 It will? Didn't see that.
they're not gonna stay strong for long ... i'm a fairly new player and just when i got my hand on fsoa and was learning how to play with it jagex nerfed it now that i got tier 95 necro and learned it, jagex is nerfing it agian (=__=) i'm just unlucky ... i've learned the boss i wanet to learn the most with necro (zamorak) when there was no zuk guide with necro so i had to figure it out myself and now i have a 300% enrage zamorak record but guess i'm gonna start learning it again with new changes .... :( #sad_rs_player
Damn son, "that is a lot of bonds".
How did you make ur money to get FSAO as a new player?
@@kevintjuhh070 ya'll are ignoring one key word "farily new" == "reletively new" i'm playing for more than 1 year now mate.
this game got me addicted hard i'm basically maxed other than 5 skills that are 90+ already and i make money trough grinding mostly herblore or firemaking :)
you can check my zamorak kill guide in my channel i recorded it to show my friend but you can watch it as well hope it helps anyone new gladly my rotation for p7 zamorak doesn't revolve around conjoures :)
I love your videos. I'm subscribed to your channel. I really don't like when content creators like you make videos on how broken stuff is. You and other content make jagex nerf these kind of these. Sometimes people who can't pvm can't enjoy it because the pros just complain how broken things are.
I hate to say this, but this video just demonstrates how op the summons are and why they needed a nerf. That said the video will be irrelevant after tomorrow's nerf which is big sad. But uh, I do wonder how dps looks like with necro summons and main hand t90/92 wands.
Hey man, is there a marketplace to sell RS accounts that r trustworthy? I'm thinking of selling my 13 year old almost maxed account 🤔
Its risky to sell your account because its against the rules. You might get it banned :l
Ull come back and want it in the future. Keep it
not anymore xD
Nerfed
Super strong
The only conjures i use is the skeleton lol
Why? U csn littersly lre summon them for free dmg and healing
nerf is coming to conjures tho, so this test is already outdated >..
*Were
nerfs and patches incoming after this vid 😅
switchscape so cool but not really
Don't worry tomorrow is the nerf to these guys haha
Nerf comes tomorrow 😂
I luckily sold all my ectoplasm before it crashes😂 selling for 700each now
Why would it crash? Costing double for summoning all at once should make it cost more
Conjures are stronger than you think. BAM! NERF HAMMER! HA HA.
Everyday I find new reasons to quit the game
Why?
Quitting over a needed nerf? Lol
It’s too much. If you think biking the zombies damage by 80% is balanced then you’re either an idiot or an elitist who cries that his drops aren’t worth as much anymore
lol
ffs
People still play this game?
Badly timed video, considering they're all being nerfed tomorrow lol
Yeah, he did mention in the previous video that he made this before Jagex announced the changes, so he doesn't really have a choice but to release this asap
Yep. Thanks for mentioning it 🙏🏻
you happy fix nerf canjur but awsome mtx thet help me safe time on clue you not happy! you car only abaut your salf and your think you doo good! laik maikry tolking too much then rune away too old school rs!
what a broken game lol
Its called necromancy, they should be the bulk of the damage...
Why u here then clown ?
@@kaceyjones7694agreed, some people are just retarded, its like saying a witch doctor in diablo should be dealing most damage from autos lmao......
Broken how so exactly? I don't even... do you want them to bad?
I hate quests. Vault of shadows was such a long “mini quest”, they just be releasing stuff just so they can gatekeep it behind quests…