Getting a lot of comments on the Sasuke vs Neji portion of the video - I think it’s entirely fair to say Neji wins I just couldn’t go as in depth as I would have liked due to not wanting to make the video solely about it or due to how I’ve talked about it multiple other times. Apologies if you wanted that part to go longer or if I glossed over something. It’s just generally so overdone of a topic I forgot there is rarely common consus
All Fights 💀 (**SPOILER WARNING**) --------------------------------------------------------------- Sasuke Vs Mizuki - Sasuke wins 🌲 - Medium Diff ☑ 🔊 Naruto Vs Dosu - Dosu wins 🔊 - Medium Diff ☑ Naruto Vs Yoroi - Naruto wins - Low to Mid Diff ✅ Sasuke Vs Kiba - Sasuke *Loses* 🙌 - Low Diff ❌ Naruto Vs Gaara - Gaara Wins - Medium Diff ☑ 👏 Sasuke Vs Neji - Sasuke Wins - Medium Diff / CHIDDDDOOORII! 🌩 ☑ 😷 Sasuke Vs Kabuto - Kabuto Wins - Medium to High Diff ☑ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sasuke Vs Deidara 💣 - Sasuke wins - Low Diff (Not even close to deidara fp) ❌ Sasuke Vs Sick Orochimaru 🐍 - Orochimaru wins 🐍 - Low to Medium Diff ☑ Sasuke Vs Kakazu 👾 - Sasuke Wins! - Low to medium Diff ☑ 🦊Naruto Vs Deidara 🤯 - Deidara Wins - Low Diff ❌ 👓Naruto Vs Itachi🐦 - Itachi Wins - LOW Diff ❌ Naruto Vs Killer Bee ⚔🐝 - Killer Bee Wins - Low Diff ❌ 🌬Sasuke Vs 🩹 Pain - 🩹 Pain Wins 🩹 - Low Diff ❌ (HELP ME *not really, or maybe?**) Naruto Vs Raikage/A ⛈ - A Wins - Low to Medium Diff ☑ Naruto vs🌊 Mizukage/Mei 🌊 - Naruto Wins! - Low to High Diff ☑ (Based off circumstance) Naruto Vs 🪨 Tsuchi/Onoki - Onoki Wins - Low to Medium Diff ✅ Naruto Vs Interim Hokage/Danzo 🦾 - Naruto Wins - Medium to High Diff ✔ ...Im tired. Sasuke VS Nine tails Kurama 🦊 - Sasuke Wins If slightly earlier before blindness - High Diff ✔ 🏆Naruto Vs Loser Kabuto 🐉 - Himmuto Wins - Mid Diff ☑ Sasuke Vs Obito 🍥 - Obito Wins - Mid Diff ☑ Sasuke Vs Madara - Madara Wins - Low Diff ✅ Done! Nope...No more emojis
@@ThyDrash sasuke beats neji?? no just no. Naruto literally was like a counter with the nine tails for gentle fist. Naruto said fuck you shutting down my chakra points imma just use the nine tails power to force them back open. way to go kishi making this strong character technique irrelevant.
@@patrickmaloney5818Man that is like the most unique fight hypothetical I've ever heard. I mean if this is One Tail Naruto with CS2, Sasuke *probably* wins, mainly because I think MS amp is way bigger than One Tail and CS2, even combined. Could see it going either way tho.
@@patrickmaloney5818no he means like give sasuke chakra from all of the 9 bijuu, half of hagaromos chakra, kuramas chakra mode, so6p mode Vs Naruto uchiha with 1 rinnegan, 1 ems, and half of hagaromos chakra. For simplicity they’d also be swapping clans. So it’d be Naruto uchiha vs sasuke uzumaki
@@jessicaberry5596 considering he planted a crow inside naruto prior to the fight, he’d probably beat him but make it seems like Naruto escaped. So he could genjutsu his brother later
Neji lost his fight ONLY because Naruto was able to tap into an outside chakra source. Given Sasuke cant do the same, if he doesnt IMMEDIATELY blitz Neji with his best attacks, Neji wins the fight through Juuken style debilitation.
@@melovil9199 obviously not, because when Neji broke through Kimimaro's silk armor he was able to seal his chakra points. Curse Marks seem to enhance a persons existing chakra, not exist as an outside power source disconnected from their own chakra.
Well in the hypothetical case we consider neji having better taijutsu than sasuke, which I believe so since sasuke copied lee who lost to neji. Then neji should be able to use his gentle fists on sasuke and block his chakra points in the first taijutsu clash. Preventing sasuke from gathering chakra for the chidori, unless he pop out the curse mark to fix the blocked points. I think that’s unlikely cause neji wouldn’t have the intention to kill unless your name is hinata. Also the mentality of neji would be different in this fight compared to naruto who he thought was incompetent. He’d try to end sasuke faster because he knows sasuke will be able to analyze his taijutsu eventually.
That is what is missed, ppl think that the gentle fist is just strong taijutsu, but each hit on normal ninja is a massive debuff, neji only needs to touch sasuke a few times. Furthermore chidori doesn’t blitz him, even gaaras sand reacted and tried to stop him. Neji would absolutely see it coming and it’s feasible if he could dodge it - all the moreso if he landed any hits earlier, bc they weaken sasuke It’s not even like naruto is stronger/faster than him here, naruto just hard countered his ability to shut down chakra points with kyuubi. Literally any other ninja there save gaara would have lost after getting hit by 64 palms, naruto got stronger and faster instead. Idk if neji *wins* but it is a lot less certain than discussed in the video
@@RyokoEarth The real question would be if Neji would try to close the tenkatsu on the head or the hands, shutting down Sharingan which does still require chakra would stop Sasuke from tracking him or even using Chidori, since it causes a tunnel effect that would make it difficult to use.
Sharingan hard counters gentle fist. Chakra points are very small and require great precision to be hit so the precognition granted by the sharingan will be really valuable in this case.
I don't think the curse mark would fix the blocked tenketsu. We saw Kidomaru being forced out of curse mark level 2 because of the gentle fist. Extrapolate that any source of chakra could unblock the tenketsu just because it worked for Naruto, and only Naruto with a very specific source of chakra, is far fetched to me.
@@marko1263 that’s also depends on how sasuke and neji use their taijutsu as lee and bee pointed out just cause you can see something doesn’t always means you can react to it. Feints in taijutsu or strategy can still work.
Sasuke vs Pain is laughable. At that point in the story, Sasuke got murdered 3 times in the same fight by Killer Bee. Even Kage summit Sasuke with Susanoo gets trashed by Pain via attrition.
At the end of the day even with Sage Mode Naruto got clowned by Pain too. Dude destroyed the village and went through a gauntlet of every relevant ninja in the village, then fought a buffed Naruto with two clones as chakra reserves alongside toads providing backup and having intel on Pain’s abilities, and even then Naruto had already lost before Kurama started going wild. No wonder Obito said Pain would’ve done better than Sasuke on the summit, Pain was just at a different level than both of them at that point in the story.
Didn't expect you guys to cover Naruto vs Chino, nobody really power scales her. Glad to be pleasently suprised. I think it would be cool if you eventually scaled some more novel/movie only characters or even filler characters at some point. W vid as always.
Naruto would get the same amp. He got that amp in the Kiba fight. He wants to prove to everyone he’s the strongest. So the fight with Gaara would be very similar to that in the forest. And Naruto would never forfeit. He was scared in the forest but felt he had no choice. If Rock Lee would do anything for his dream, I doubt that Naruto wouldn’t. Naruto is winning against Gaara. Proof is he was terrified to fight Orochimaru and saw Sasuke forfeit, and Naruto wasn’t having that. And that was their chance to get away
Dude is hella entertaining don't always agree but bro I like dudes style when it comes to approach and overall love for a series.. it's a passionate refreshing take
Appreciate it my boy 👍🏻 we ain’t bots It’s such a multifaceted series that disagreements will happen, but we deadass just discussing dope topics at the end of the day that’s all it is. It’s only when weird ego is involved does shit become goofy af. Appreciate the comment 🙏🏻
While kcm has better travel speed than sage mode sage mode has better reaction speed due to its sensory ability which is why Naruto’s shadow clone beat the third raikage which was also an edo tensie so it naturally regenerates damage it is fair to say that Naruto even in base is a lot stronger when he enters the 4th war than in the 5 kage summit
EXACTLY!!!!! I was waiting for someone to say that. Plus? Naruto genuinely just has WAY better stats than the Raikage. The only person who was able to hurt the Third Raikage was himself and they realized that. Naruto went toe to toe with him and dodged at the LAST second weaving around to hit him with a Rasengan. People also blatantly forget about the Frog Kata. Naruto is decimating with the Frog Kata especially in a room like that Pain was an above Sannin Level threat and Naruto was able to fuck every single one of them up. He simply has far too many physicals for the Raikage to keep up with and he can make up to 2 more shadow clones that have sage mode as well! There is just legitimately no way that the Raikage is winning that fight. Jugo's blast ain't like Naruto's Rasenshuriken ESPECIALLY not the Sage Art: Rasenshuriken. Raikage is definitely getting his ass whooped.
@@cortezlucious95 didn’t Kcm Naruto’s rasenshuriken rip off 3rd raikage lightning cloak too ? I’m pretty sure being an edo was the only reason the 3rd wasn’t completely incapacitated. If so than Naruto would one shot the fourth raikage in sage mode especially if he catches Ay off guard like assume with chidori
Man i wish Dosu survived, his personality was cool, his sound gauntlet was badass AND his character design was top tier. Probably one of the coolest looking characters ever introduced😊
A little disappointed in the downplaying of Naruto's ability to summon Gamabunta. The fight between this NarutovGaara chuunin finals would be taking place not long after Naruto's earned Gamabunta's respect. If Naruto summons him as a result of Gaara being pushed into transforming, Gamabunta's gonna know that's a tailed beast brewing in there and try to stop it before it becomes a problem that could kill him like the Shukaku itself.
Gambabunta didn’t even give af abt naruto i the gaara fight💀 he only helped naruto bcus he saved his son. If gambabunta is summoned during the chunin exams he ain’t doing shit
@user-hm7tg7mq5q He came off as a grumpy old man initially, thought about it for a moment like he was coming around to saving his henchman, then gamakichi sweetened the pot a little with his inclusion. It wasn't the sole reason he helped Naruto, and him saying get lost as an initial response is something he'd tell even Jiraiya. He cared about em and wasn't gonna leave the kid hanging. Small edit: The guy's in on a full on summoning contract with Naruto with his consented signature and everything. The idea he doesn't care about Naruto to some people in lieu of this fact boggles me.
@@ronersteel659 bro what💀 he literally said he wasn’t gonna do shit for naruto wtf r u on abt😭 if gamakichi wasn’t there gambabunta wouldn’t have done shit and I thought that was made quite clear. Also jiraiya forced bro into making that contract so idk how u can think he actually gave a damn abt naruto at this point
@user-hm7tg7mq5q I'd say reread the chapter, friend because that's just inaccurate. Jiraiya was hiding from Gamabunta that whole time--and Gamabunta was yelling for him too. He was keeping a loose eye on the scene, but only returned when Gamabunta left with the signature next to a sleeping Naruto. Jiraiya definitely didn't force him to do anything. Already mentioned why Gamakichi wasn't the full reason why he helped Naruto so I won't go in circles on it.
@@ronersteel659 ur reasoning is complete head canon tho😭 maybe I do need to reread the chapter but that doesn’t affect that main point abt gambabunta not giving a fuck abt naruto
People don’t realize how big a gap there is between 3tailed version 1 Naruto and 4 tails version 2 Naruto. One cloak in version 2 is already over 8-9 version 1 cloak tails.
Naruto would def beat Gaara. He sees this dude as a threat and even told Kakashi that he should stop the match. Idk why he wouldnt get an "amp" or use his full aresenal to stop Gaara when he does it like an hour later. He saw what he did to Lee, and had that convo with Shikamaru. Sasuke's arsenal just was never enough to stop Gaara to begin with.
Naruto literally isnt any stronger when he fights gaara than when he fights neji, its literaly the same fight, Naruto takes that w, him not beliving he can do it doesnt mean he couldnt, stop the cope. Also i dont think that chidori just automatically punches through rotation and even beyond that nothing stops neji from just slapping saskues wrist away. Neji rolls saskue up like a blunt and smokes him.
Naruto is making explicitly clear to be amped from a need to protect Sakura, it’s actually a common trend with Leaf Nin that later is brought up as the Will of Fire which plays into the narrative of the leaf being the strongest party due to this. Naruto can’t replicate that feat in every fight or isn’t in a position to do so if his comrades lives aren’t at stake, just like with Iruka
@jaseliolis its literally a power boost provided by the strong desire to protect his friends and teammates. He was literally stronger against gaara than when he fought neji.
I feel like people overplay Sasuke's speed in the chunin exam. Neji is said to always beat up Lee who is just as fast (arguably faster) than Sasuke and Sasuke can't hold that top speed for that long so Neji would not be that impressed by Sasuke's speed. The only thing Neji didn't know about Lee was that he could open that many gates and that version of Lee would probably win against Neji but weightless Lee gets bullied all day so basically Sasuke's speed is not enough to give him an edge and if he gets hit even once he is done.
Thank you. I was really sitting here like how did they mention the Lee statement and still say Sasuke’s too fast? Like the Sasuke that’s fighting Gaara is not only fatigued from using the chidori in the stadium but also had a short scuffle with Temari before using another chidori, a jutsu so draining he can only use it 3 times without risking dying from chakra depletion. I didn’t hear any argument for why partial transformation Gaara is faster than gated Lee and why a drained Sasuke reacting to Gaara is better than Neji casually reacting to gated Lee. Or why Sasuke hitting Gaara with the 2nd chidori is a better feat than Neji’s clash with Naruto when we see Gaara’s arm is still made of sand and Sasuke already used the same jutsu to negate the sand armor already. Then only reason Sasuke did as well as he did is because of a type advantage. And to make everything worse for Sasuke; even though we never see him do it until the first part of Shippuden, Neji might already be able to see the chakra points of projectile based Ninjustu like the Fireball Jutsu so long range spam doesn’t help him anymore than fighting up close does. And Neji is normally cautious as hell (he kept his Byakugan active and ready to strike Hinata down even though he knew she was defeated, he still trained in the time before his fight with Naruto even though he thought Naruto was a joke although you might say he was training to fight Lee again but that doesn’t make a lot of sense since Lee still wasn’t able to move) and he’s seen how capable Sasuke is or at least the legacy of the Uchiha and wouldn’t be sandbagging like he did against Naruto
-The fourth Raikage is NOT as durable as the third Raikage and it’s silly to scale his durability to his father. Sage Naruto factually has better close range dexterity than early KCM1. He slams Ai with a Rasenshuriken and beats him. -Onoki only erased 25 Susanoo clones with an amp from Tsunade -Naruto vs Kabuto actually Naruto had just ran out of Kurama chakra and needed to build up more. He was in base to post link KCM1 for 1-2 chapters. If it’s no restrictions Kabuto can just sever his chakra network from Kurama like he did in part 1. He wanted Sasuke alive so he held back, and he won’t be treating a fatigued KCM Naruto like that. -EMS Sasuke wasn’t “very Intimidated” by Tobirama, he didn’t even use his base 3t sharingan.
@@spit-firehe thing is that Naruto is usually hindered by plot, that’s basically it. Against the Deva path ST just counters everything. Against Edo 3rd Raikage he’s an Edo, any damage is healed before it really effects him. Against Obito he had Kamui. It’s the Amaterasu paradox. Ai got pierced by a chidori from 3t 5KS Sasuke, he is not tanking a rasen shuriken and Naruto has 1 to waste and 1 to land if he pulls what he did against the Third off.
@@hobbyhorse5848 the sage mode that naruto used against raikage 3rd was not as restricted as the sage mode naruto used against pain. The sage mode he used against kyubi is way more freely accessible than the sage mode he used against pain as well. Full ninetails was able to tag naruto in a better sage mode than the pain fight, its proven since with the ninetails battle naruto was able to summon what looks like 50+ clones against the ninetails, he obviously could not do that against pain, so naruto was not wrong when he said that hewas stronger than when he fought pain, taking ninetails chakra for his own, locking away the rest of kurama it look like he took 6 tailsworth of the ninetails chakra, if thats true then kcm> sage mode since the only form naruto was consciously remembering was sage mode, after 4 tails came out naruto was gone, 6 tailsdid way better against tendo pain than sage mode did, kcm~ sage naruto definitively, so with that scaling kcm is above sage mode in the pain arc, but the sage mode grew in efficiency when naruto got kcm chakra unlock, again against pain he could use 4 sage mode clones at max, after kcm he can casually use 50+, completely different story from before which mean naruto stating hes stronger than when he fought pain, it is true
@@hobbyhorse5848 another thing ppl seem to forget things lost in translation at times, but naruto literally smack the raikage and send him flying with the rasenshurike while in kcm1, able to create rasenshuriken far more efficiently than he could in sage mode.
Just remembered not only dose 3rd raikage have an insane healing factor he’s also an edo which auto heals on it’s own despite both factors the only reason 3rd raikage was able to continue was because naruto didn’t have any sealing jutsu of his own at the time he had to wait for the sealing unit instead of doing it himself
Fun video, guys. Definitely found this to be more thorough than the last edition. Also, love how you came back and took your video idea from the unmentionable. Very cool.
Sage mode Naruto beat the 3rd RaKage in the war ark, he could dodge him using sage mode because he can sense faster, also the only reason he survived the Rasen Sheriken is cause he was an Edo Tense, so I’m confident he could’ve beat the 4th Rakage (sorry I can’t spell)
No he survived the rasenshuriken with nearly 0 damage on him , taijutsu can tear edo tensei bodies apart , if a near point blank rasenshuriken didn’t stun edo 3rd raikage who was on auto pilot btw to where he had to pause to heal , whereas instead after tanking the rasenshuriken he interrupted the sealing attempt On him 2 seconds after getting hit with said rasenshuriken then he would’ve indeed tanked it .
@@meetthemoo225wdym 0 damage? He was left laying on the floor and they were able to temporarily restrict him. Rasenshuriken doesn't really leave much damage marks since it attacks cells.
@@Shark-hn4mv yea it knocked him off his feet but temporarily restrict ? They couldn’t even finish the 3 second sealing jutsu in time before zombie raikage ripped through their “restriction” like the paper it was . And the cells things adds to my Points because any damage his ego chakra points would’ve suffered would’ve regenerated ( if they were damaged at all and the kinda manga and anime Debunk he takes any damage at all unless it’s self inflicted hence the sage naruto rasengan not not any damage to the raikage eiher but redirected the raikages own attack towards himself )
I have a question. How powerful would Rinnegan users would be if the Deva Path allows the user to have total control of gravity? Let's say the Deva Path can do something similar to C Moon by shifting the gravity or turning things inside out. How strong would they be? And speaking about C Moon, can Made in Heaven solo the entire Naruto cast all at the same time?
if we are removing scales of power nagato/pain/deva would be near unstoppable aside genjutsu. if you are taking scaling into account, hes arguably half of the full ninetails level. while heavily fatigued an having fought 6 tails, pain could basically throw hands with it the entire time. then at 8 tails he has to give himself an aneurysm to hold 8 tails. increasing the variability of the gravity technique doesnt necessarily increase the power. it just gives you more ways to finesse your opponent. so the true answer to your question is it doesnt change much about their total battle prowess except they have a few more moves in their arsenal if they wanna be gruesome to their opponent.
While Made in Heaven doesn't have any direct combat prowess, it's the fact that no one outside of time stop users and most definitely GE:R could do anything against it. Well, that and WR. Basically, to answer your question...yes, Made in Heaven would be able to destroy all of Naruto as they wouldn't be able to do anything against it.
@@matus19971I think it depends how the fight goes. If it starts off like it did in the manga/anime then I think Naruto and cast obliterates him. But if Pucci just decides to instantly restart the universe and accelerate time then I would think he wins.
Sasuke vs Mizuki - In fairness, Mizuki was Sasuke's teacher alongside Iruka for years. He probably has some idea of how skilled Sasuke is, and wouldn't even attempt to fight him and Iruka at the same time. Naruto vs Dosu/Zaku - Naruto can be surprisingly clever at times. If it was just Zaku, or even just Dosu, he could probably win by tricking them (Dosu is pretty damn arrogant unless you show him overwhelming power). However, Dosu is pretty smart and will be hanging back picking his shots while Zaku takes the frontlines, so he is more likely to spot any tricks Naruto tries to set up. It would have to be a really clever trick (like the windmill shuriken trick against Zabuza) for Naruto to trick them both at the same time. Naruto's only realistic win-con is if he drags out the fight enough that Dosu notices Team 10, Sakura and Lee recovering and decides fighting all of them AND Neji and Tenten isn't worth it, so he calls the retreat. Naruto vs Yoroi - Imagine trying to drain Naruto's chakra when you couldn't even fully drain an exhausted Sasuke! Sasuke vs Kiba - Thank you! What few fanfics I see that put this Sasuke against Kiba always have Sasuke pull off some BS win while treating Kiba like fodder! It's nice to see him (and Akamaru) getting acknowledged! Naruto vs Gaara - Naruto's only win-con at this point is getting his clones (or the Kyuubi's chakra) to launch him in the air above Gaara and summoning Gamabunta mid-air to unwittingly squash Gaara to paste. Unfortunately, this is massively OoC for him, on top of him fearing Gaara. Plus, it would probably piss Bunta off.
Hi. Great video as always. Revisiting old topics to see how your opinions and analysis has changed is really fun. Just wanted to throw in my two cents on some fights. I know Sasuke is your guy, but there is a lot of Sasuke bias in the part one section of the video and it left me a little disappointed because I feel like I know part one very well, so it's mainly in regards to that. The Naruto vs Gaara in this video was also interesting, so I have a note on that as well. This is a minor thing, but I actually think Kiba could take the win off of Sasuke even without the plot nerfs. Among the Genin kids, Kiba has some of the best speed, taijutsu skill and straight up AP feats. Naruto is getting ragdolled by Kiba, and Sasuke is primarily a Taijutsu fighter at this point so I don't see why it would be any different for him. Naruto has much better durability showings than Sasuke, and he only managed to get the win through a trick that Sasuke could never replicate. Neji is stated by Lee, who obviously knows his own weightless speed, to be in a completely different league from him. Neji is not even impressed by Lee until he opens the fourth gate. Neji saw Cursed Seal Sasuke in the Forest of Death and didn't even flinch. There's no world where Sasuke can beat him in the Taijutsu match. Sasuke's only chance against Neji is Chidori off rip, which is uncharacteristic of him to use that way. Kaiten is stated to be an even more absolute defense than Gaara's sand and it was hurling dozens of Naruto clones around the arena. Chidori has an enormous telegraph and there's no world where Sasuke gets to connect that through Kaiten because Sasuke will get flung by it. That kind of attack has never been shown to work against Kaiten no matter who was doing it. Sasuke gets beaten by Neji in pure Taijutsu skill and it's a bad match up for him because his only AP feat is negated by Neji. I'm honestly not even sure if Sasuke with CS1 can beat Neji. Sasuke vs Gaara was not even remotely close, and neither was Lee vs Gaara for that matter. Sasuke used Chidori, his trump card that he only gets two shots with, in order to INJURE Gaara. After Sasuke hits Gaara with Chidori, after which he immediately panics and runs away from Gaara. When we continue the fight in the forest, Transformed Gaara gets injured one more time by Sasuke and then destroys him. If you have to use your trump card twice and completely deplete all of your energy to simply INJURE your opponent, then that opponent immediately goes on to have a fight with someone who is significantly stronger than you are, you were not even close to winning that fight. When Naruto gets his mental amp to protect the village from Gaara afterward, Sasuke is dumbfounded and utters the phrase "What kind of fight even is this?" as his ego is irreparably shattered for the rest of part one because of how much stronger Naruto and Gaara are than he is. Gaara is a different animal compared to the other kids. On Naruto vs Gaara, this is a weird one to discuss because of how you could view the circumstances of battle with the rules you presented. If blood must be drawn from Gaara in order to force Shukaku transformation, Naruto stands no chance against the defensive calculating Gaara that Lee and Sasuke had to fight against due to Naruto's lack of AP feats. If Gaara is going to transform anyway due to deteriorating mental state from pressure of the mission, you could argue Naruto would get the same protect the village amp and we already saw that fight. This was one of the more interesting swaps to me because it really depends on how which head space you're in about Gaara's transformation being plot relevant. I personally don't think Gaara transforms like that without the blood drawn, preventing the mental amp which would allow Naruto to get the win, but you could argue either way and it's pretty fair. I also just wanted to say Kimimaro is an absolute freak of nature and his scaling by implication is absurd. Kimimaro is narratively implied to be relative to Haku. Haku is stated to be stronger than Kakashi, and Kakashi is far above CS2 Sasuke. Orochimaru got devastated by Itachi and set out on his life journey to acquire the Sharingan, which he perceived to be the most powerful bloodline. After he met Kimimaro, Orochimaru decided he didn't need the Sharingan anymore until Kimimaro fell ill. Orochimaru thought that if Kimimaro wasn't sick that he would have been able to fight against Hiruzen. Kimimaro survived Gaara's Sand Tsunami Imperial Funeral and immediately stood up for a killshot on Gaara. When he was revived in the War Arc, Kimimaro was effortless demolishing platoons of shinobi and samurai. Haku also had that level of feat during his resurrection in the War Arc, which is consistent with their scaling. Kabuto placed Kimimaro in the same category of ninja as Chiyo and Hanzo. Kimimaro is straight up Kage level.
To be fair about the last point, that Kimimaro was liberated from his terminal illness. It is still straight up insane however that base/barely curse mark 1 healthy Kimimaro took on Mifune and thousands of samurai with a nerfed Chiyo for a whole day (Mifune is sannin level and just a few dozen samurai led by Mifune’s lieutenant actually captured Suigetsu and Jugo and threw them in jail).
Doesn’t I say Sasuke only win 1 fight in part 1 in this video and it’s a commonly debatable topic? I’ve gotten a couple comments on Neji vs Sasuke and have quite literally done videos on the matchup up before, there will just never be any kind of conclusion to it I think Sasuke wins, I think Neji has a way better chance if Sasuke can’t use chidori from a win con aspect and speed which I do allude to in the vid. The Kimimaro used is not the same one in the war arc he can only function via moving his body via his mind and is clearly not the same one fighting a kyuubi Naruto clone, I felt like that one was pretty clear especially since we said he loses. I would legit love for respond to everything you said cause you said a lot of stuff I have opinions on ( I read the entire comment) I just don’t have the ability to type that much and have that much of a back and forth. I’d definitely implore you to hop in when I live stream to discuss this!
@@hobbyhorse5848 Oh sure yeah, War Arc usually isn't very relevant to Part 1 scaling. It just goes to show how consistent the parallel is if Kimimaro = Haku continues to be true that far into the series. I was mainly just trying to detail that Kimimaro is so far above most everyone else in the series at that point that it's a bit silly to suggest that CS2 Sasuke could put pressure on him. Chiyo is also pretty insane through implication. She fought Hanzo multiple times and lived to tell about it, even doing that one time elevated people to legendary status in the world.
Deeper voice guy has a firm Sasuke bias. Wasnt sure at first, but then he started chiming in to add what he thinks would be different, even though the other guy just said the same thing (the chime in on Sasuke vs kimimaro made me laugh)
Hope ya see this love the content and I'm late to this, but you know. Naruto is looking for Danzo due to them switching places at the "exact moment and exact form" Sasuke's goal should apply to goal of this fight too, right? Zetsu exposes his presence at the summit when they were covertly looking for Danzo. He has to know that his main objective is kill Danzo. Take into account that he is not in KCM, he's in sage mode fighting the 3rd Raikage in the War Arc >when he realizes that he should hit the 3rd Raikage with his own spear< He is in sage mode preforming this feat he's also a shadow clone when he does this. Contention/implications aside on the 3rd vs 4th speed scaling let's just say they're relative. Having said that, he has sage mode here. So could he fight the 4th at the max speed, i dont think so. However, he can dodge, and possibly even counter with Frog Kata. And at the very least he can react and not get laid out. And his objective is not fighting, it's finding Danzo so him getting away is the priority, technically a win for him. He could dodge, have 2 clones Rasenshuriken the pillars and do exactly what Sasuke did. You could argue quicker too since he realizes it's best case going to be high diff. Although the Raikage still has his 2nd arm and would probably give immediate chase after the dust settles since he still has both arms. Naruto would probably realize immediately that he is unable to win and had to continue looking for Danzo. Obito is always there to bail him out too in worst case scenario declaring war as he does so. It's unfair to Naruto to bring up KCM vs the 3rd Raikage but then leave out the Sage Mode portion of the fight. So i wanted to throw out my take. What do you think? Edit - I did not realize that putting *to denote something made bold print. changing to >
I actually have a video on this topic discussing my much more recent opinions that being what if KCM & SM swapped fights. It goes into a lot of the same stuff you brought up so I’d highly recommend that! It’s def one of my best videos imo
@@ThunderGodTG It was something i had watched and rewatched a few hours ago, and yeah that's pretty much spittin' some facts. I do wonder if the perception would allow him to preform similar parry-style reactions and turn the 4ths momentum on himself or just have to block/dodge. It's not like the 4th uses a spear it's like actually decking somebody with your arm. Would he just like do similar reaction style counterattack. Instead of just pushing the arm back into his chest, he'd just break his elbow or something. hit the elbow with a rasengan or something while he's using the Lariat and make the Raikage punch himself in the head hahaha
Naruto has a thousand shadow clones and tons of ways to merk Danza till he runs out of izanagi , on top of that if he uses the 9 tails chakra danzos wood style would react to it and Danzo would lose control.. Just with how much Charkra naruto has naruto is more suited for a long drawn out fight with Danzo,Sasuke was struggling and just getting use to the MS powers This is after naruto has beaten pain.. With sage mode Naruto sense everything Danza is doing the izanagis wont even catch naruto by suprize.. Danzo has nothing for naruto Danzo using 100 izanagi wouldnt beat naruto Naruto would probably beat Danzo easier than what sasuke did
Yes this, Danzo would be an easier fight for Naruto than it was for Sasuke. Danzo's izanagi would be exhausted by Naruto infinite chakra pool compared with his sage mode, Danzo has nothing to kill Naruto with.
Weell, In the OG Naruto Games, Chidori vs Neji Rotation was a “jutsu struggle” so anyone could win each other. But I think the way Sharingan was done and how Sasuke was on par with Open Gate 2 or 3 of Rock Lee to surpass Gaara Speed, he could try to win with long distance Fireball Jutsu and positioning. It would be Wild to see Sasuke Copy Neji’s Rotation.
34:19 Deidara lacked both arms. But even then, that Deidara was able to run away from Kakachi, Guy and Neji. Since sensorial abilities of Byakugan are way better than the ones of the Sharingan, that's how well he was hiding. Sasuke wouldn't have found him. The win condition for Deidara is to run away and since there are no jinchuurikis there he doesn't need to bait anyone.
The guy thats not tg reminds me of how when swag does vids with others and its so clear that he has a bias and the other person goes with it even though they dont agree
@@ThunderGodTG I figured it could be each Akatsuki member trying to capture Gaara and how they deal with him and possibly the village or just straight one v one matches.
So I heard Sasuke had an advantage against Gaara that he did not know about at the time being a lightning style user and Gaara being and earth style user much like deidara... Could I argue that Gaaras defense is particular weak to Sasuke's lightning?. Where as nejis rotation would not be weak to Sasuke's chidori like Gaaras "ultimate defense" obviously was
Also Sasuke doesn't start off with chidori so to think he pulls it out before neji stops him from being able to use it at all is ridiculous Every blow neji lands messes up your chakra control and Sasuke does not have massive chakra like Naruto, messing Naruto's already bad chakra control is not as much as messing Sasuke's good control up.. bad reserves/good control - control = bad, very bad Great reserves/bad control - control = you better block all 64 points or it's near meaningless
Dude naruto would roll naruto dude no diff, he’d blitz naruto so hard the entire village would ostracize naruto. And don’t get me on sasuke dude, sasuke would neg diff Sasuke so much he makes his life a living hell cause he doesn’t worth the effort then kill sasuke’s brother just to make sure Sasuke knows he’s alone in the world.
@@vannieuwenbergwilliam7792 wait that’s filler I didn’t even know i didn’t even read that fight when i read the manga because I remembered it was awful
1:05:19 This is not really a physical fight so you may as well count that Sasuke as having a limited version of EMS. So he's not necessarily destroyed by lacking sharingan abilities. Now, you gotta consider the main issue: The win condition is to drain Kurama's chakra. Can Sasuke's body even do that at that point? Naruto is able to do a lot just because he's an Uzumaki. Has amazing quantity of chakra and amazing longevity. Without something replacing that like Hashirama cells and/or a very powerful and versatile sealing jutsu like the rinnegan one I don't think most people would be able to survive that.
Can i make a case for Mei : 1 we know that the clones Naruto use don't have a lot of durability (and Naruto always use them to creat the Rasengan and Rasenchuriken) 2 and with Mei's Acidic Mist Jutsu will which affect the whole area used on (and can progressively desolve a Susano ribs cage a exelent defence) 3 so if Naruto is inside the area of the Mist he can't use Shadows Clones nor his strongests jutsus and he will be limited to Frog Kumite and Summonings
Here's a question for Sasuke vs Neji: can Chidori pierce rotation? If yes, Sasuke wins. If no, Neji wins Neji just needs to hit one Chakra point in Sasuke's dominant arm to win too, basically. It'd be an interesting fight, since Sasuke had Lee speed with a Sharingan, but I'm less confident in Sasuke for that one than you guys, just cause I think Sasuke would have issues pre-chidori. And I don't think Sasuke would go straight into the Chidori, and that risks him getting his Chakra blocked and him unable to burst with new Chakra the way Naruto could with the 9 tails chakra
As far as Neji vs. Sauske goes there a couple of issues I see which make me disagree with the outcome. If Sasuke is base Lee speed, and Lee thinks he needs up to the 5th gate to beat Neji then Neji should be able to keep pace with Sasuke since he constantly spars with base Lee. Further more Neji's rotation is wind style base. Wind is strong against lightning, so the elemental advantage plus the capability for Neji to react to Sasuke's speed I would say puts him above Sasuke. Lastly as far as eyes go, base Byakugan is superior to base Sharingan. Especially when they aren't even 3 tome, like Sasuke's at the time. Overall Neji has superior jutsu, eyes, elemental advantage, intellect, experience and is stronger than Lee who is stronger than Sasuke. I gotta give it to Neji.
rotation is wind style?? i don’t think so, but it’s comparable to rasengan which clashes with chidori, so yeah i don’t think chidori just wins. i’m with you otherwise.
@@exequielbreton4393 it wasn’t with a kunai. it was with the ninetails’ cloak, at least in the manga. and mb i meant rotation is comparable to rasengan as far as properties. they’re both essentially just rotating chakra, but as far as strength, i’m not sure. i can’t think of any reason to say they’re not comparable in strength tho.
What makes me argue that rotation is wind style is based on the fact that Neji, as well as other Hyuga in the series, have shown to be able to use wind style attacks like Air Palm and such. Like, as far as actual jutsu goes, I don't think any Hyuga, other than Buroto, have shown an affinity to use any other nature than wind. So wind seems to be the natural nature affinity that the clan possesses, just like the Uchiha and their affinity for fire nature. Obviously I could be wrong about rotation being wind style, but based on the Neji's jutsu and the clan as a whole it seems that rotation could very easily be a wind style ability.
And also when Pain stabbed Naruto with his SP Rods Naruto was no longer in Sage Mode he was in base. When Naruto fought pain H2H in Sage mode after he reversed summoned a clone Naruto legit shattered pains SP Rods with the palm of his hand. Sage Mode Naruto body is basically indestructible you have to be at a certain power level in order to even damage Naruto while he’s in Sage Mode.
43:04 Gamabunta is actually a decent option. He has ranged water attacks and if Gamabunta hits once and drops him to the floor, Naruto gets a chance to one-shot him with Rasen Shuriken.
Love this video idea. My argument for Naruto vs. Fourth Raikage A: When Naruto encountered the Third Raikage during the war, it wasn’t kcm naruto that dealt with him, it was sage mode. Naruto was able to percieve, respond and counter the Third’s final form in speed with ONLY SENJUTSU AND THIS WAS ONLY A CLONE THAT WAS ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS FEAT. Naruto stands a very good chance against A especially with allies in Karin/Zetsu and Obito. I’d go extreme on the opinion and say theres actually a zero percent chance Naruto loses even with just sage powers.
1:01:53 If Naruto falls in the Izanagi trap and lowers his guard he could lose easily. If Naruto is careful, he doesn't even need sage mode. Just go and send waves of clones until he spends all his eyes.
You guys forget that rasen shuriken has similar effects as gentle fist: it destroys all tenketsu in the body. Its just kishimoto himself forgot about that effect but if Ei would be hot by that one then he may not die but he would be out of fight for sure.
Based off of narutos reaction to just orochimaru inciting the existence of sasuke, I’d say them talking about how they wanna take Sasuke away would make Naruto tweak and whip out 4th tail completely obliterate the sound 4
All I know is that there's no way Naruto beats Diedara. Even if Sasuke's win was BS, everything up that happened before C0 made sense. I don't even think Naruto even makes it to that point bc of how bad of a matchup it is. He probably can do okay vs Danzo bc of his insane chakra reserves but I'm not sure he deduces what's going on as quickly as sasuke does. I don't see him beating Itachi either.
I gotta disagree with the sage naruto vs raikage. In the same way that dependending on the matchup hebi sasuke>taka sasuke I think kcm2>sage mode> kcm1. Not saying sage naruto wins but he definitely isnt getting speed blitzed
You could definitely make a whole separate video on sage naruto pulling up to the 5 kage summit with prep time,intel,ma and pa,summons and intent to kill
On Neji Vs Sasuke, Sasuke’s chidori doesn’t amp his speed, it requires him to simply move at his max speed, and Neji, who can see chakra, would either stop it with rotation, or if he judges that he can’t, would move out of the way because the chidori requires linear movement
Chidori does amplify speed although this is mainly when movements are linear, Chidori does also not require linear movement, there are just times when Sasuke & Kakashi move as such to gain the speed jump. Sasuke can literally hold Naruto up and charge a chidori while standing still.
@@ThunderGodTGwhile one can use a chidori while stationary, it’s max power requires a running start. While it is true that lightning release can amp speed if used in a cloak form, Sasuke doesn’t demonstrated speed amps with it until boruto
Frankly, the only reason Sasuke survived his fight with the Raikage at the Kage summit was his insane defense thanks to Susanoo. Naruto doesn't have that. Sure, Naruto and Sasuke are pretty much equal at this point, though I think that's more of an "on average" thing because Naruto has more chakra to pump into his attacks, making them stronger, while Sasuke has tons of defense thanks to Susanoo, but at the end of the day Sasuke would've been bodied without Susanoo and Naruto would end up just like that against the Raikage. Besides, Naruto needed to gain control over Kurama's chakra to even become relevant to Raikage's speed, which is a huge amp compared to his base and a large amp even compared to his Sage Mode. All in all, Naruto gets bodied here
Nah, if the sound guy with the sound gauntlet that fought curse mark one Sasuke and lost. If that guy fought Naruto and Sakura was in danger like she was in the original fight. Naruto's emotions would kick in and let lose some of his KCM mode it would be either like it was against that huge giant snake or it would be like it was against haku but a little less. Naruto seeing Sakura captured like she was in the original Naruto being held by her hair by the sound ninja. Would Kick in Naruto's emotions. Thus, turning him KCM mode. He would obliterate that sound ninja worse then CM1 Sasuke did. That sound ninja would be done for. Naruto loves Sakura in his mind. So, seeing her be captured would trigger him into KCM mode. He love Sakura so seeing her grabbed by the hair and threatened would not be a good move for the sound four. In the original Naruto Sakura cut her hair to be set free. But, in this Scenario. Naruto would see Sakura the one in his mind he loves. Would see her hurting by being grabbed by the hair and a Kunai held to her. He would then let his emotions go wild and would yell at them and soon turn KCM mode. He would try and yell at them to let her go. They of course would not. Which would make Naruto even more mad. He would turn KCM mode and obliterate the sound 4. Like how he did against haku. Maybe the same as haku. If not a little less. Either way he would turn KCM mode.
I disagree with sasuke vs sick orochimaru. Suigetsu just implies that orochimaru with his arms would beat sasuke, which means hiruzen fight orochimaru would beat sasuke not naruto fight orochimaru would beat sasuke. Plus sasuke had been doing secret training the entire time so sasuke is a decent amount stronger than orochimaru thinks. Sasuke’s lightning release was pretty effective against orochimaru, and he shouldn’t really have an answer for his genjutsu or kirin.
Sasuke admits out loud of his own volition that tenchi bridge Orochimaru> him and that he waited until he was at deaths door to step up. We see Orochimaru easily break out of Hebi Sasuke’s genjutsu on panel, and he can just poison Sasuke to subdue him like we literally see deathbed Orochimaru do.
@@hobbyhorse5848 Sasuke may have say that but he never saw orochimaru at his best, he trained only with a sick orochimaru. Also what orochimaru is gonna do against kirin, it's way too fast for him to even react. When did orochimaru break hebi sasuke genjustu, it's never hapenned he got literally beaten by sasuke genjustu, he was destroyed by 13 years old itachi base genjustu. And we know that hebi sasuke and a stronger itachi are equal in genjustu with the base sharingan, it's a fact we see that in their figth. Even at his best orochimaru can't break hebi sasuke genjustu, the sannin are just overated in the naruto world and mostly in the fandom. Unless you can show me a panel where sick orochimaru break hebi sasuke genjustu, you can't say he's weaker than him. And sasuke didn't say he's weaker, he sayed he beat him when he was sick. You forgot to take contest, he stomped orochimaru without problem but was hurt after figthing deidara who suigestu, karin and even sasuke think is weaker than orochimaru but in reality he'not. Just what he's gonna do against C4 kagura or how can he beat deidara ? Sasuke may have sayed that he's "weaker" than him but his feats and justus put him higher than orochimaru even in hebi.
@@israelmatulimubalama1496Kirin is a nonfactor. Sasuke needs to heat up the entire atmosphere to do it, which against Orochimaru he just wouldn’t be able to do. Orochimaru tanks 4 tailed Naruto attacks, to think Sasuke is anywhere close to that level is delusional
@@tomasbedoya2901 sorry but i don't get why he wouldn't be able to do kirin even if it's requires prep time. Orochimaru tanks 4 tails attacks yes, he's also the same guy who told that three tails naruto is leagues below sasuke so unless you think the 4 tails version is ten times stronger than the three tails, saying that sasuke is around four tails level is not delusional because that's what orochimaru and the story implied . In fact he can do even better than orochimaru because he can supress the chakra of the 4 tails with his sharingan and we literally saw that later in the arc. Orochimaru sayed that if the bijuudama had touch him directly he will die that's why he uses a barrier and i don't say kirin is stronger than a bijuudama but it's definetely strong enough to kill him and it's way faster than the bijuudama for sure. Orochimaru won't be able to react at kirin even if you think somehow he can survive it or sasuke won't be able to use his justu, how orochimaru is gonna break sasuke genjustu because he literally lose to both a 13 years old itachi and hebi sasuke base genjustu sharingan. And with that aspect, it's a fact that a more stronger and experienced itachi was equal to hebi sasuke base sharingan genjustu so even at his best shape he can't break sasuke sharingan genjustu. I don't think i'm unfair to that orochimaru, he was equal to 4 tails naruto but even deidara can beat that 4 tails naruto, we literally see him no diff the entire three tails who should be stronger and more durable than this naruto, and if you won't accept that the entire three tails is stronger, deidara can still beat that 4 tails naruto with c4 kagura and hebi sasuke beats deidara so am i still delusional ? If you look without bias at all what i wrote you'll see that i'm rigth.
@@israelmatulimubalama1496 he cannot use Kirin because it is incredibly circumstantial, he had to trick Itachi into warming the atmosphere himself to use it, Sasuke cannot invoke it by himself in a battle, Kirin is actually a shit jutsu. All that work needed to do it once, and he couldn't even break crippled Itachi's Susanoo with it, let alone KILL four tails Naruto. Orochimaru said base Naruto was much weaker than Sasuke, you cannot extrapolate that comparison to Kyubi Chakra cloak Naruto in any form, and if we use their words as proof, Sasuke said he would lose to an Orochimaru that wasn't literaly in his deathbed. Additionally, hebi Sasuke is not as strong as Itachi, in no way is this implied, to the point that, in the war ark, EMS Sasuke was still being lectured by Itachi in the Kabuto fight. Orochimaru is much stronger than Deidara, and even so, Sasuke, even with the advantage of lightning and script aspull, was sweating at the end of that fight. There's no way Hebi Sasuke scales to 4 tailed Naruto or Orochimaru at that point in time, Orochimaru has jutsu at much greater scale, is much more durable, and is a more experienced fighter.
My understanding is that the gates are chakra generatee by the living body floeing though it. Edos wouldnt have any of their own chakra, theyre just powered by the caster. Like i would doubt a hyuga could shut down the chakra flow of an edo as well.
@@ianmckee4726Year late reply, but the edos definitely aren't powered by the user, considering they'll still be walking around even if the caster dies by Kabuto's own admission.
46:54 Even fully recovered Sasuke can't deal with Pain. It's too troublesome for what he can do. Summon spam will keep him completely busy if he uses Susanoo, shinra tensei can disperse amaterasu and the Preta path can absorb it, Sasuke has no counter to Preta path (while Naruto gets a freebie due to sage mode), and considering the encounter (Itachi and Nagato) in the war arc, I don't think visual genjutsu will be very effective. Not only Sasuke can't win, he doesn't have a chance in hell. Not only he gets outclassed, but it's also a terrible match even for EMS Sasuke (who is way, way more powerful than sage mode Naruto). I think EMS Sasuke has a decent chance but even then I don't think it's a good one. 47:43 It's not a matter of "X is stronger than Y, and Y is stronger than Z so X beats Z". The kind of fighter that Sasuke is has a way higher power requirement to be able to defeat Pain, because Pain has a counter for everything he has. Also he can't convince Nagato to do anything because he doesn't have Talk no jutsu. And all that is, under the assumption that Sasuke starts the fight by destroying the Asura path.
Two things when Naruto lost in the forest of death Kurama would have awoken and beat Zakus ass, and I think Sasuke would def still beat Kiba I think Sasuke curse mark activated because his opponent was a chakra absorber so it was disturbing Sasuke chakara. Kiba would have no such ability so Controlled Sasuke I think could upset Kiba by catching him lacking. Otherwise loved video bro keep them videos coming!!
My comment is hella late but I'd like to argue: Dosu is getting dog walked by Naruto when he sees Sakura is beaten and badly hurt. At this time Naruto has a crush on Sakura, he will get pissed even harder than he did with Sasuke. And said kyuubi naruto scales far beyond sharingan tomoe 2 partial curse mark. Naruto loses to the sound 4. But there is a scenario where he wins, which is he finds out why they are in Konoha and Orochimaru wants Sasuke. This will cause Naruto to tap into Kurama subconsciously or directly which is when i argue Naruto can outright kill some of the sound 4 especially if the cloak comes out. From what we see in the Sasuke vs Naruto fight. Naruto going into cloak was a response to Naruto's life being in danger from Kurama. If the sound 4 are willing to kill Naruto to get to Sasuke the nine tails cloak comes out and that Naruto scales beyond the sound 4 quite comfortably. And even with genjutsu the cloak will act by itself. This is again conditional and obvious but i argue there are scenarios where Naruto taps into Kurama for an amp to protect Sasuke.
not here to argue, video is dope, but Naruto verse Deidara honestly would be more close. like Sasuke got some god tier level plot armor in that fight, summoning the snake manda and crawling into it's mouth to live from an explosion of like 12 nukes. Theres zero chance in hell Sasuke should of actually survived that. I would argue that though Deidara is kicking Naruto's ass almore at the beginning and middle of the fight, by this point Naruto does have the wind style rasengan and getting beating up bad enough would 100% go into at least 3 or 4 tails state, forcing Deidara to using that nuke ability to end the fight and we all know the healing factor of kurama's chakra, letting alone the defensive capablitiy. Naruto probably would of been scuffed up pretty bad by it still, but he's be walkin and ready to fight within a week or less. you don't gotta agree, but you can't say it wasn't a huge ass pull that Sasuke lived from that fight.
Personally I felt that Sasuke wouldve demolished kiba because instead of forcing back the curse mark he wouldve had to have used it when he got backed into a corner. Kiba taunting and running his mouth likely saying something bad about the Uchiha would have set sasukes temper into volcanic mode. Wouldve completely changed the plotline but I dont see Sasuke accepting the L when he has an easy option albeit undesirable.
1:04:03 Danzo cannot place a seal on Naruto if he can't find the right Naruto. Worst case scenario, if Danzo succeeds and Naruto is angry enough he can go 8 tails and destroy Danzo.
57:17 "Sauske was doing alright" he was about to die... bro that's a really dumb thing to say there. His life was literally saved by a third party stealing everyones chakra and giving him a bunch. The Mizukage might be easily the worst kage, but she was boot to murder Sauske.
Ngl, I don’t necessarily disagree with Sasuke beating Toneri but that statement from the last movie novel don’t mean much to me. 1) Naruto by the end of Shippuden is blatantly stronger than Sasuke….by the time of the last, Sasuke no longer has the chakra of the 9 bijuu while Naruto has gained the other half of Kurama and has been training. Like I get Sasuke has been training too and has gotten more used to the rinnegan but it doesn’t make any logical sense as to how that’s an equal amp to A WHOLE OTHER HALF OF KURAMA. If he still had the bijuu chakra that makes sense but he doesn’t. 2) imma get real nasty rq. Sasuke is effectively Kakashi’s only student. Kakashi didn’t teach Sakura squat and he literally pushed Naruto away to teach personally teach Sasuke. Naruto’s teachers were Jiraiya, Bee, and Pa. Yea he came up with a training method for Naruto to master the rasenshuriken and gave him that hint on looking two ways at once, but other than that naruto was basically learning how to do that on his own. mind you, kakashi wouldn’t have even been able to come up with that method if it wasn’t for Yamato. As adults tho it can make sense for them to be relative
I don’t see Chunin Exams Sasuke beating Chunin Exams Neji. The only way that Sasuke could win that is if he pulls out curse mark or he legit instantly falls back from neji and jumps into chidori. And it’s questionable if that chidori can break through rotation. All in all if Sasuke tries to swap hands with neji he would ultimately lose as neji will shit down his chakra points to the point he won’t even be able to pull out a chidori and atp it’s GG for Sasuke unless he relies on Curse Mark. And it’s questionable that neji can legit evade Chidori Sasuke since he’s as fast as Weightless Lee at this point. But I’ll say if Sasuke uses Curse Mark he wins but if he doesn’t He loses this fight to Neji.
Straight up, I don't think Sssuke could beat Neji during the exams. Its not a matter of who is faster, but who is more skilled. Lee's secret tech to try to beat Neji was the gates. Sasuke copied Lee's movements, which I can only imagine is something Neji is accustomed to, and even if not, no blind spot Byakugan, so moving quick behind Neji is not an advantage. Rotation can probably also deflect Chidori. Then theres the whole thing about Gentle Fist.
Getting a lot of comments on the Sasuke vs Neji portion of the video - I think it’s entirely fair to say Neji wins I just couldn’t go as in depth as I would have liked due to not wanting to make the video solely about it or due to how I’ve talked about it multiple other times.
Apologies if you wanted that part to go longer or if I glossed over something. It’s just generally so overdone of a topic I forgot there is rarely common consus
THANK YOU! I can't stress how mucb Neji absolutely DESTROYS in his fight against sasuke. 😭
@@Friendly_G Had he fought Neji, he would have left Konoha way earlier 🤭.
All Fights 💀 (**SPOILER WARNING**)
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Sasuke Vs Mizuki - Sasuke wins 🌲 - Medium Diff ☑
🔊 Naruto Vs Dosu - Dosu wins 🔊 - Medium Diff ☑
Naruto Vs Yoroi - Naruto wins - Low to Mid Diff ✅
Sasuke Vs Kiba - Sasuke *Loses* 🙌 - Low Diff ❌
Naruto Vs Gaara - Gaara Wins - Medium Diff ☑
👏 Sasuke Vs Neji - Sasuke Wins - Medium Diff / CHIDDDDOOORII! 🌩 ☑
😷 Sasuke Vs Kabuto - Kabuto Wins - Medium to High Diff ☑
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Sasuke Vs Deidara 💣 - Sasuke wins - Low Diff (Not even close to deidara fp) ❌
Sasuke Vs Sick Orochimaru 🐍 - Orochimaru wins 🐍 - Low to Medium Diff ☑
Sasuke Vs Kakazu 👾 - Sasuke Wins! - Low to medium Diff ☑
🦊Naruto Vs Deidara 🤯 - Deidara Wins - Low Diff ❌
👓Naruto Vs Itachi🐦 - Itachi Wins - LOW Diff ❌
Naruto Vs Killer Bee ⚔🐝 - Killer Bee Wins - Low Diff ❌
🌬Sasuke Vs 🩹 Pain - 🩹 Pain Wins 🩹 - Low Diff ❌ (HELP ME *not really, or maybe?**)
Naruto Vs Raikage/A ⛈ - A Wins - Low to Medium Diff ☑
Naruto vs🌊 Mizukage/Mei 🌊 - Naruto Wins! - Low to High Diff ☑ (Based off circumstance)
Naruto Vs 🪨 Tsuchi/Onoki - Onoki Wins - Low to Medium Diff ✅
Naruto Vs Interim Hokage/Danzo 🦾 - Naruto Wins - Medium to High Diff ✔
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Sasuke VS Nine tails Kurama 🦊 - Sasuke Wins If slightly earlier before blindness - High Diff ✔
🏆Naruto Vs Loser Kabuto 🐉 - Himmuto Wins - Mid Diff ☑
Sasuke Vs Obito 🍥 - Obito Wins - Mid Diff ☑
Sasuke Vs Madara - Madara Wins - Low Diff ✅
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@@ThyDrash sasuke beats neji?? no just no. Naruto literally was like a counter with the nine tails for gentle fist. Naruto said fuck you shutting down my chakra points imma just use the nine tails power to force them back open. way to go kishi making this strong character technique irrelevant.
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Man Sasuke vs Naruto is gonna be heat
I wonder who would win!
What would be a fair part 1 Final Valley fight? Cursemark Kyuubicloak Naruto vs Jiraya trained MS Sasuke?
@@patrickmaloney5818Man that is like the most unique fight hypothetical I've ever heard. I mean if this is One Tail Naruto with CS2, Sasuke *probably* wins, mainly because I think MS amp is way bigger than One Tail and CS2, even combined. Could see it going either way tho.
@@patrickmaloney5818no he means like give sasuke chakra from all of the 9 bijuu, half of hagaromos chakra, kuramas chakra mode, so6p mode
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Naruto uchiha with 1 rinnegan, 1 ems, and half of hagaromos chakra.
For simplicity they’d also be swapping clans. So it’d be Naruto uchiha vs sasuke uzumaki
No it would be Naruto vs Naruto and Sasuke vs Sasuke because they each swapped opponents
Itachi kills Naruto, pain kills sasuke. Done.
End of series😂
yeah you didn't need a hour and a half long video to arrive to this conclusion either. This video is drawn out and uninteresting
Bro commented anyway adding engagement
Why would Itachi kill Naruto? Itachi may beat Naruto, but based on all we've seen he wouldn't kill one of the Leaf Village's best assets.
@@jessicaberry5596 considering he planted a crow inside naruto prior to the fight, he’d probably beat him but make it seems like Naruto escaped. So he could genjutsu his brother later
Good video guys but, I'm kinda disappointed yall didnt include the final valley fight 😔✊️
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Lol! Substitution no jutsu!
Neji lost his fight ONLY because Naruto was able to tap into an outside chakra source. Given Sasuke cant do the same, if he doesnt IMMEDIATELY blitz Neji with his best attacks, Neji wins the fight through Juuken style debilitation.
Curse mark is not an outside chakra source?
@@melovil9199 obviously not, because when Neji broke through Kimimaro's silk armor he was able to seal his chakra points. Curse Marks seem to enhance a persons existing chakra, not exist as an outside power source disconnected from their own chakra.
@@melovil9199it’s not because Kurama is a being
Not only that but Neji took that hit like a boss and got defeated by Naruto being unpredictable once again
Personally I think sauske speed blitz him easily
Well in the hypothetical case we consider neji having better taijutsu than sasuke, which I believe so since sasuke copied lee who lost to neji. Then neji should be able to use his gentle fists on sasuke and block his chakra points in the first taijutsu clash. Preventing sasuke from gathering chakra for the chidori, unless he pop out the curse mark to fix the blocked points. I think that’s unlikely cause neji wouldn’t have the intention to kill unless your name is hinata. Also the mentality of neji would be different in this fight compared to naruto who he thought was incompetent. He’d try to end sasuke faster because he knows sasuke will be able to analyze his taijutsu eventually.
That is what is missed, ppl think that the gentle fist is just strong taijutsu, but each hit on normal ninja is a massive debuff, neji only needs to touch sasuke a few times. Furthermore chidori doesn’t blitz him, even gaaras sand reacted and tried to stop him. Neji would absolutely see it coming and it’s feasible if he could dodge it - all the moreso if he landed any hits earlier, bc they weaken sasuke
It’s not even like naruto is stronger/faster than him here, naruto just hard countered his ability to shut down chakra points with kyuubi. Literally any other ninja there save gaara would have lost after getting hit by 64 palms, naruto got stronger and faster instead. Idk if neji *wins* but it is a lot less certain than discussed in the video
@@RyokoEarth The real question would be if Neji would try to close the tenkatsu on the head or the hands, shutting down Sharingan which does still require chakra would stop Sasuke from tracking him or even using Chidori, since it causes a tunnel effect that would make it difficult to use.
Sharingan hard counters gentle fist. Chakra points are very small and require great precision to be hit so the precognition granted by the sharingan will be really valuable in this case.
I don't think the curse mark would fix the blocked tenketsu. We saw Kidomaru being forced out of curse mark level 2 because of the gentle fist. Extrapolate that any source of chakra could unblock the tenketsu just because it worked for Naruto, and only Naruto with a very specific source of chakra, is far fetched to me.
@@marko1263 that’s also depends on how sasuke and neji use their taijutsu as lee and bee pointed out just cause you can see something doesn’t always means you can react to it. Feints in taijutsu or strategy can still work.
Itachi would be an impossible fight for Naruto back then, as well as Pain for Sasuke
Sasuke vs Pain is laughable. At that point in the story, Sasuke got murdered 3 times in the same fight by Killer Bee. Even Kage summit Sasuke with Susanoo gets trashed by Pain via attrition.
@@MechAdv i laughed so hard thinking about pain pulling sauske out of his susanno XDDDD
@@MechAdvyeah unless Sasuke has like sage Naruto tier physical stats he loses
At the end of the day even with Sage Mode Naruto got clowned by Pain too. Dude destroyed the village and went through a gauntlet of every relevant ninja in the village, then fought a buffed Naruto with two clones as chakra reserves alongside toads providing backup and having intel on Pain’s abilities, and even then Naruto had already lost before Kurama started going wild. No wonder Obito said Pain would’ve done better than Sasuke on the summit, Pain was just at a different level than both of them at that point in the story.
@@MechAdvonly version of Sasuke that beats pain is war arc Sasuke with rennigan
The rasenshuriken has damaged the third raikage!! The reanimation regen just kicked in too fast. But the lightning shield did absolutely get pierced.
Didn't expect you guys to cover Naruto vs Chino, nobody really power scales her. Glad to be pleasently suprised. I think it would be cool if you eventually scaled some more novel/movie only characters or even filler characters at some point. W vid as always.
I actually have a video ranking the movie villains which I highly recommend it’s a personal favorite of mine
Yoo the Novel villains would be cool since I'm starting to read them
Naruto would get the same amp. He got that amp in the Kiba fight. He wants to prove to everyone he’s the strongest. So the fight with Gaara would be very similar to that in the forest. And Naruto would never forfeit. He was scared in the forest but felt he had no choice. If Rock Lee would do anything for his dream, I doubt that Naruto wouldn’t. Naruto is winning against Gaara. Proof is he was terrified to fight Orochimaru and saw Sasuke forfeit, and Naruto wasn’t having that. And that was their chance to get away
Exactly naruto came in the fight scared of neji too and still fought out witted him l.
Dude is hella entertaining don't always agree but bro I like dudes style when it comes to approach and overall love for a series.. it's a passionate refreshing take
Appreciate it my boy 👍🏻 we ain’t bots It’s such a multifaceted series that disagreements will happen, but we deadass just discussing dope topics at the end of the day that’s all it is. It’s only when weird ego is involved does shit become goofy af. Appreciate the comment 🙏🏻
While kcm has better travel speed than sage mode sage mode has better reaction speed due to its sensory ability which is why Naruto’s shadow clone beat the third raikage which was also an edo tensie so it naturally regenerates damage it is fair to say that Naruto even in base is a lot stronger when he enters the 4th war than in the 5 kage summit
EXACTLY!!!!! I was waiting for someone to say that. Plus? Naruto genuinely just has WAY better stats than the Raikage. The only person who was able to hurt the Third Raikage was himself and they realized that. Naruto went toe to toe with him and dodged at the LAST second weaving around to hit him with a Rasengan. People also blatantly forget about the Frog Kata. Naruto is decimating with the Frog Kata especially in a room like that Pain was an above Sannin Level threat and Naruto was able to fuck every single one of them up. He simply has far too many physicals for the Raikage to keep up with and he can make up to 2 more shadow clones that have sage mode as well! There is just legitimately no way that the Raikage is winning that fight. Jugo's blast ain't like Naruto's Rasenshuriken ESPECIALLY not the Sage Art: Rasenshuriken. Raikage is definitely getting his ass whooped.
@@cortezlucious95 didn’t Kcm Naruto’s rasenshuriken rip off 3rd raikage lightning cloak too ? I’m pretty sure being an edo was the only reason the 3rd wasn’t completely incapacitated. If so than Naruto would one shot the fourth raikage in sage mode especially if he catches Ay off guard like assume with chidori
@@stlegion-px1wo Yep!
TG always coming up with the best topics, idk if you do this full time or not but I hope you make enough money or will make enough money to
Appreciate it bro✊🏻 we’re almost there in all honesty
Once monetized, each 1k views = roughly 5$ (Not including ADS) and so rn he'd be making 10$ - 1200$ (Asura Vid)
I swear this video was a challenge to see how many pause worthy moments you could make😂😂
Man i wish Dosu survived, his personality was cool, his sound gauntlet was badass AND his character design was top tier. Probably one of the coolest looking characters ever introduced😊
0:25 "a certain individual" 😂😂😂😭😈😖
I really enjoy you guys' videos, your vibes are so complimentary hahaha it's funny
A little disappointed in the downplaying of Naruto's ability to summon Gamabunta. The fight between this NarutovGaara chuunin finals would be taking place not long after Naruto's earned Gamabunta's respect. If Naruto summons him as a result of Gaara being pushed into transforming, Gamabunta's gonna know that's a tailed beast brewing in there and try to stop it before it becomes a problem that could kill him like the Shukaku itself.
Gambabunta didn’t even give af abt naruto i the gaara fight💀 he only helped naruto bcus he saved his son. If gambabunta is summoned during the chunin exams he ain’t doing shit
@user-hm7tg7mq5q He came off as a grumpy old man initially, thought about it for a moment like he was coming around to saving his henchman, then gamakichi sweetened the pot a little with his inclusion. It wasn't the sole reason he helped Naruto, and him saying get lost as an initial response is something he'd tell even Jiraiya. He cared about em and wasn't gonna leave the kid hanging.
Small edit: The guy's in on a full on summoning contract with Naruto with his consented signature and everything. The idea he doesn't care about Naruto to some people in lieu of this fact boggles me.
@@ronersteel659 bro what💀 he literally said he wasn’t gonna do shit for naruto wtf r u on abt😭 if gamakichi wasn’t there gambabunta wouldn’t have done shit and I thought that was made quite clear. Also jiraiya forced bro into making that contract so idk how u can think he actually gave a damn abt naruto at this point
@user-hm7tg7mq5q I'd say reread the chapter, friend because that's just inaccurate. Jiraiya was hiding from Gamabunta that whole time--and Gamabunta was yelling for him too. He was keeping a loose eye on the scene, but only returned when Gamabunta left with the signature next to a sleeping Naruto. Jiraiya definitely didn't force him to do anything. Already mentioned why Gamakichi wasn't the full reason why he helped Naruto so I won't go in circles on it.
@@ronersteel659 ur reasoning is complete head canon tho😭 maybe I do need to reread the chapter but that doesn’t affect that main point abt gambabunta not giving a fuck abt naruto
People don’t realize how big a gap there is between 3tailed version 1 Naruto and 4 tails version 2 Naruto. One cloak in version 2 is already over 8-9 version 1 cloak tails.
Naruto would def beat Gaara. He sees this dude as a threat and even told Kakashi that he should stop the match. Idk why he wouldnt get an "amp" or use his full aresenal to stop Gaara when he does it like an hour later. He saw what he did to Lee, and had that convo with Shikamaru. Sasuke's arsenal just was never enough to stop Gaara to begin with.
Naruto literally isnt any stronger when he fights gaara than when he fights neji, its literaly the same fight, Naruto takes that w, him not beliving he can do it doesnt mean he couldnt, stop the cope.
Also i dont think that chidori just automatically punches through rotation and even beyond that nothing stops neji from just slapping saskues wrist away.
Neji rolls saskue up like a blunt and smokes him.
Yes he is. He gets a Shonen protag power of friendship boost. If you don't know the story, stay outta the convo.
Neji loses😭
Naruto is making explicitly clear to be amped from a need to protect Sakura, it’s actually a common trend with Leaf Nin that later is brought up as the Will of Fire which plays into the narrative of the leaf being the strongest party due to this. Naruto can’t replicate that feat in every fight or isn’t in a position to do so if his comrades lives aren’t at stake, just like with Iruka
@@ThunderGodTG Who cares bro? That's like calling his kyuubi chakra vs neji a "hokage dream amp". Where exactly is the line drawn?
@jaseliolis its literally a power boost provided by the strong desire to protect his friends and teammates. He was literally stronger against gaara than when he fought neji.
Can't believe you forgot about the hospital roof fight and Final valley! 😂
Kurama hates Shukaku so much, he simply wouldn't let the tanuki win
I feel like people overplay Sasuke's speed in the chunin exam. Neji is said to always beat up Lee who is just as fast (arguably faster) than Sasuke and Sasuke can't hold that top speed for that long so Neji would not be that impressed by Sasuke's speed. The only thing Neji didn't know about Lee was that he could open that many gates and that version of Lee would probably win against Neji but weightless Lee gets bullied all day so basically Sasuke's speed is not enough to give him an edge and if he gets hit even once he is done.
Thank you. I was really sitting here like how did they mention the Lee statement and still say Sasuke’s too fast?
Like the Sasuke that’s fighting Gaara is not only fatigued from using the chidori in the stadium but also had a short scuffle with Temari before using another chidori, a jutsu so draining he can only use it 3 times without risking dying from chakra depletion.
I didn’t hear any argument for why partial transformation Gaara is faster than gated Lee and why a drained Sasuke reacting to Gaara is better than Neji casually reacting to gated Lee. Or why Sasuke hitting Gaara with the 2nd chidori is a better feat than Neji’s clash with Naruto when we see Gaara’s arm is still made of sand and Sasuke already used the same jutsu to negate the sand armor already. Then only reason Sasuke did as well as he did is because of a type advantage.
And to make everything worse for Sasuke; even though we never see him do it until the first part of Shippuden, Neji might already be able to see the chakra points of projectile based Ninjustu like the Fireball Jutsu so long range spam doesn’t help him anymore than fighting up close does. And Neji is normally cautious as hell (he kept his Byakugan active and ready to strike Hinata down even though he knew she was defeated, he still trained in the time before his fight with Naruto even though he thought Naruto was a joke although you might say he was training to fight Lee again but that doesn’t make a lot of sense since Lee still wasn’t able to move) and he’s seen how capable Sasuke is or at least the legacy of the Uchiha and wouldn’t be sandbagging like he did against Naruto
Fr facts downplayed tf outta neji
-The fourth Raikage is NOT as durable as the third Raikage and it’s silly to scale his durability to his father. Sage Naruto factually has better close range dexterity than early KCM1. He slams Ai with a Rasenshuriken and beats him.
-Onoki only erased 25 Susanoo clones with an amp from Tsunade
-Naruto vs Kabuto actually Naruto had just ran out of Kurama chakra and needed to build up more. He was in base to post link KCM1 for 1-2 chapters. If it’s no restrictions Kabuto can just sever his chakra network from Kurama like he did in part 1. He wanted Sasuke alive so he held back, and he won’t be treating a fatigued KCM Naruto like that.
-EMS Sasuke wasn’t “very Intimidated” by Tobirama, he didn’t even use his base 3t sharingan.
I disagree with a couple things here but, overall pretty decent analysis
A smoke bomb, then Naruto does some lame ass diversion to tag Ay with the rasenshurikin. It hits or it misses, that’s the fight imo
@@spit-firehe thing is that Naruto is usually hindered by plot, that’s basically it. Against the Deva path ST just counters everything. Against Edo 3rd Raikage he’s an Edo, any damage is healed before it really effects him. Against Obito he had Kamui. It’s the Amaterasu paradox. Ai got pierced by a chidori from 3t 5KS Sasuke, he is not tanking a rasen shuriken and Naruto has 1 to waste and 1 to land if he pulls what he did against the Third off.
@@hobbyhorse5848 the sage mode that naruto used against raikage 3rd was not as restricted as the sage mode naruto used against pain. The sage mode he used against kyubi is way more freely accessible than the sage mode he used against pain as well. Full ninetails was able to tag naruto in a better sage mode than the pain fight, its proven since with the ninetails battle naruto was able to summon what looks like 50+ clones against the ninetails, he obviously could not do that against pain, so naruto was not wrong when he said that hewas stronger than when he fought pain, taking ninetails chakra for his own, locking away the rest of kurama it look like he took 6 tailsworth of the ninetails chakra, if thats true then kcm> sage mode since the only form naruto was consciously remembering was sage mode, after 4 tails came out naruto was gone, 6 tailsdid way better against tendo pain than sage mode did, kcm~ sage naruto definitively, so with that scaling kcm is above sage mode in the pain arc, but the sage mode grew in efficiency when naruto got kcm chakra unlock, again against pain he could use 4 sage mode clones at max, after kcm he can casually use 50+, completely different story from before which mean naruto stating hes stronger than when he fought pain, it is true
@@hobbyhorse5848 another thing ppl seem to forget things lost in translation at times, but naruto literally smack the raikage and send him flying with the rasenshurike while in kcm1, able to create rasenshuriken far more efficiently than he could in sage mode.
Sage mode naruto was able to react, and counter the Third raikage's 1st spear which is insanely fast, idk how fast exactly that is tho
Just remembered not only dose 3rd raikage have an insane healing factor he’s also an edo which auto heals on it’s own despite both factors the only reason 3rd raikage was able to continue was because naruto didn’t have any sealing jutsu of his own at the time he had to wait for the sealing unit instead of doing it himself
Fun video, guys. Definitely found this to be more thorough than the last edition. Also, love how you came back and took your video idea from the unmentionable. Very cool.
may i know who that is
Sage mode Naruto beat the 3rd RaKage in the war ark, he could dodge him using sage mode because he can sense faster, also the only reason he survived the Rasen Sheriken is cause he was an Edo Tense, so I’m confident he could’ve beat the 4th Rakage (sorry I can’t spell)
No he survived the rasenshuriken with nearly 0 damage on him , taijutsu can tear edo tensei bodies apart , if a near point blank rasenshuriken didn’t stun edo 3rd raikage who was on auto pilot btw to where he had to pause to heal , whereas instead after tanking the rasenshuriken he interrupted the sealing attempt
On him 2 seconds after getting hit with said rasenshuriken then he would’ve indeed tanked it .
@@meetthemoo225wdym 0 damage? He was left laying on the floor and they were able to temporarily restrict him. Rasenshuriken doesn't really leave much damage marks since it attacks cells.
@@Shark-hn4mv yea it knocked him off his feet but temporarily restrict ? They couldn’t even finish the 3 second sealing jutsu in time before zombie raikage ripped through their “restriction” like the paper it was . And the cells things adds to my
Points because any damage his ego chakra points would’ve suffered would’ve regenerated ( if they were damaged at all and the kinda manga and anime Debunk he takes any damage at all unless it’s self inflicted hence the sage naruto rasengan not not any damage to the raikage eiher but redirected the raikages own attack towards himself )
How Naruto went underground and Neji that literally sees through objects didn't see him is beyond me.
I have a question. How powerful would Rinnegan users would be if the Deva Path allows the user to have total control of gravity? Let's say the Deva Path can do something similar to C Moon by shifting the gravity or turning things inside out. How strong would they be?
And speaking about C Moon, can Made in Heaven solo the entire Naruto cast all at the same time?
if we are removing scales of power nagato/pain/deva would be near unstoppable aside genjutsu.
if you are taking scaling into account, hes arguably half of the full ninetails level.
while heavily fatigued an having fought 6 tails, pain could basically throw hands with it the entire time. then at 8 tails he has to give himself an aneurysm to hold 8 tails.
increasing the variability of the gravity technique doesnt necessarily increase the power. it just gives you more ways to finesse your opponent.
so the true answer to your question is it doesnt change much about their total battle prowess except they have a few more moves in their arsenal if they wanna be gruesome to their opponent.
While Made in Heaven doesn't have any direct combat prowess, it's the fact that no one outside of time stop users and most definitely GE:R could do anything against it. Well, that and WR. Basically, to answer your question...yes, Made in Heaven would be able to destroy all of Naruto as they wouldn't be able to do anything against it.
@@matus19971I think it depends how the fight goes. If it starts off like it did in the manga/anime then I think Naruto and cast obliterates him. But if Pucci just decides to instantly restart the universe and accelerate time then I would think he wins.
@@Artghostwriterhe can't do that. It takes time for his ability to accelerate
@@matus19971why would that be the case. Anyone with adequate stats to keep up with hin would be able to beat him.
Great editing this video
Swagkage's takes are probably the best when it comes to these. But this video is equally entertaining.
Thank you Jasmine
I really like your thumbnails especially the Naruto and Sasuke videos
Thank you! I try to make them sick looking
Sasuke vs Mizuki - In fairness, Mizuki was Sasuke's teacher alongside Iruka for years. He probably has some idea of how skilled Sasuke is, and wouldn't even attempt to fight him and Iruka at the same time.
Naruto vs Dosu/Zaku - Naruto can be surprisingly clever at times. If it was just Zaku, or even just Dosu, he could probably win by tricking them (Dosu is pretty damn arrogant unless you show him overwhelming power).
However, Dosu is pretty smart and will be hanging back picking his shots while Zaku takes the frontlines, so he is more likely to spot any tricks Naruto tries to set up. It would have to be a really clever trick (like the windmill shuriken trick against Zabuza) for Naruto to trick them both at the same time.
Naruto's only realistic win-con is if he drags out the fight enough that Dosu notices Team 10, Sakura and Lee recovering and decides fighting all of them AND Neji and Tenten isn't worth it, so he calls the retreat.
Naruto vs Yoroi - Imagine trying to drain Naruto's chakra when you couldn't even fully drain an exhausted Sasuke!
Sasuke vs Kiba - Thank you! What few fanfics I see that put this Sasuke against Kiba always have Sasuke pull off some BS win while treating Kiba like fodder! It's nice to see him (and Akamaru) getting acknowledged!
Naruto vs Gaara - Naruto's only win-con at this point is getting his clones (or the Kyuubi's chakra) to launch him in the air above Gaara and summoning Gamabunta mid-air to unwittingly squash Gaara to paste. Unfortunately, this is massively OoC for him, on top of him fearing Gaara. Plus, it would probably piss Bunta off.
Hi. Great video as always. Revisiting old topics to see how your opinions and analysis has changed is really fun. Just wanted to throw in my two cents on some fights. I know Sasuke is your guy, but there is a lot of Sasuke bias in the part one section of the video and it left me a little disappointed because I feel like I know part one very well, so it's mainly in regards to that. The Naruto vs Gaara in this video was also interesting, so I have a note on that as well.
This is a minor thing, but I actually think Kiba could take the win off of Sasuke even without the plot nerfs. Among the Genin kids, Kiba has some of the best speed, taijutsu skill and straight up AP feats. Naruto is getting ragdolled by Kiba, and Sasuke is primarily a Taijutsu fighter at this point so I don't see why it would be any different for him. Naruto has much better durability showings than Sasuke, and he only managed to get the win through a trick that Sasuke could never replicate.
Neji is stated by Lee, who obviously knows his own weightless speed, to be in a completely different league from him. Neji is not even impressed by Lee until he opens the fourth gate. Neji saw Cursed Seal Sasuke in the Forest of Death and didn't even flinch. There's no world where Sasuke can beat him in the Taijutsu match. Sasuke's only chance against Neji is Chidori off rip, which is uncharacteristic of him to use that way. Kaiten is stated to be an even more absolute defense than Gaara's sand and it was hurling dozens of Naruto clones around the arena. Chidori has an enormous telegraph and there's no world where Sasuke gets to connect that through Kaiten because Sasuke will get flung by it. That kind of attack has never been shown to work against Kaiten no matter who was doing it. Sasuke gets beaten by Neji in pure Taijutsu skill and it's a bad match up for him because his only AP feat is negated by Neji. I'm honestly not even sure if Sasuke with CS1 can beat Neji.
Sasuke vs Gaara was not even remotely close, and neither was Lee vs Gaara for that matter. Sasuke used Chidori, his trump card that he only gets two shots with, in order to INJURE Gaara. After Sasuke hits Gaara with Chidori, after which he immediately panics and runs away from Gaara. When we continue the fight in the forest, Transformed Gaara gets injured one more time by Sasuke and then destroys him. If you have to use your trump card twice and completely deplete all of your energy to simply INJURE your opponent, then that opponent immediately goes on to have a fight with someone who is significantly stronger than you are, you were not even close to winning that fight. When Naruto gets his mental amp to protect the village from Gaara afterward, Sasuke is dumbfounded and utters the phrase "What kind of fight even is this?" as his ego is irreparably shattered for the rest of part one because of how much stronger Naruto and Gaara are than he is. Gaara is a different animal compared to the other kids.
On Naruto vs Gaara, this is a weird one to discuss because of how you could view the circumstances of battle with the rules you presented. If blood must be drawn from Gaara in order to force Shukaku transformation, Naruto stands no chance against the defensive calculating Gaara that Lee and Sasuke had to fight against due to Naruto's lack of AP feats. If Gaara is going to transform anyway due to deteriorating mental state from pressure of the mission, you could argue Naruto would get the same protect the village amp and we already saw that fight. This was one of the more interesting swaps to me because it really depends on how which head space you're in about Gaara's transformation being plot relevant. I personally don't think Gaara transforms like that without the blood drawn, preventing the mental amp which would allow Naruto to get the win, but you could argue either way and it's pretty fair.
I also just wanted to say Kimimaro is an absolute freak of nature and his scaling by implication is absurd. Kimimaro is narratively implied to be relative to Haku. Haku is stated to be stronger than Kakashi, and Kakashi is far above CS2 Sasuke. Orochimaru got devastated by Itachi and set out on his life journey to acquire the Sharingan, which he perceived to be the most powerful bloodline. After he met Kimimaro, Orochimaru decided he didn't need the Sharingan anymore until Kimimaro fell ill. Orochimaru thought that if Kimimaro wasn't sick that he would have been able to fight against Hiruzen. Kimimaro survived Gaara's Sand Tsunami Imperial Funeral and immediately stood up for a killshot on Gaara. When he was revived in the War Arc, Kimimaro was effortless demolishing platoons of shinobi and samurai. Haku also had that level of feat during his resurrection in the War Arc, which is consistent with their scaling. Kabuto placed Kimimaro in the same category of ninja as Chiyo and Hanzo. Kimimaro is straight up Kage level.
To be fair about the last point, that Kimimaro was liberated from his terminal illness. It is still straight up insane however that base/barely curse mark 1 healthy Kimimaro took on Mifune and thousands of samurai with a nerfed Chiyo for a whole day (Mifune is sannin level and just a few dozen samurai led by Mifune’s lieutenant actually captured Suigetsu and Jugo and threw them in jail).
Doesn’t I say Sasuke only win 1 fight in part 1 in this video and it’s a commonly debatable topic? I’ve gotten a couple comments on Neji vs Sasuke and have quite literally done videos on the matchup up before, there will just never be any kind of conclusion to it I think Sasuke wins, I think Neji has a way better chance if Sasuke can’t use chidori from a win con aspect and speed which I do allude to in the vid.
The Kimimaro used is not the same one in the war arc he can only function via moving his body via his mind and is clearly not the same one fighting a kyuubi Naruto clone, I felt like that one was pretty clear especially since we said he loses.
I would legit love for respond to everything you said cause you said a lot of stuff I have opinions on ( I read the entire comment) I just don’t have the ability to type that much and have that much of a back and forth. I’d definitely implore you to hop in when I live stream to discuss this!
@@hobbyhorse5848 Oh sure yeah, War Arc usually isn't very relevant to Part 1 scaling. It just goes to show how consistent the parallel is if Kimimaro = Haku continues to be true that far into the series. I was mainly just trying to detail that Kimimaro is so far above most everyone else in the series at that point that it's a bit silly to suggest that CS2 Sasuke could put pressure on him. Chiyo is also pretty insane through implication. She fought Hanzo multiple times and lived to tell about it, even doing that one time elevated people to legendary status in the world.
Deeper voice guy has a firm Sasuke bias. Wasnt sure at first, but then he started chiming in to add what he thinks would be different, even though the other guy just said the same thing (the chime in on Sasuke vs kimimaro made me laugh)
Hope ya see this love the content and I'm late to this, but you know. Naruto is looking for Danzo due to them switching places at the "exact moment and exact form" Sasuke's goal should apply to goal of this fight too, right? Zetsu exposes his presence at the summit when they were covertly looking for Danzo. He has to know that his main objective is kill Danzo.
Take into account that he is not in KCM, he's in sage mode fighting the 3rd Raikage in the War Arc >when he realizes that he should hit the 3rd Raikage with his own spear< He is in sage mode preforming this feat he's also a shadow clone when he does this. Contention/implications aside on the 3rd vs 4th speed scaling let's just say they're relative. Having said that, he has sage mode here. So could he fight the 4th at the max speed, i dont think so. However, he can dodge, and possibly even counter with Frog Kata. And at the very least he can react and not get laid out. And his objective is not fighting, it's finding Danzo so him getting away is the priority, technically a win for him.
He could dodge, have 2 clones Rasenshuriken the pillars and do exactly what Sasuke did. You could argue quicker too since he realizes it's best case going to be high diff. Although the Raikage still has his 2nd arm and would probably give immediate chase after the dust settles since he still has both arms. Naruto would probably realize immediately that he is unable to win and had to continue looking for Danzo. Obito is always there to bail him out too in worst case scenario declaring war as he does so.
It's unfair to Naruto to bring up KCM vs the 3rd Raikage but then leave out the Sage Mode portion of the fight. So i wanted to throw out my take. What do you think?
Edit - I did not realize that putting *to denote something made bold print. changing to >
I actually have a video on this topic discussing my much more recent opinions that being what if KCM & SM swapped fights. It goes into a lot of the same stuff you brought up so I’d highly recommend that! It’s def one of my best videos imo
@@ThunderGodTG It was something i had watched and rewatched a few hours ago, and yeah that's pretty much spittin' some facts. I do wonder if the perception would allow him to preform similar parry-style reactions and turn the 4ths momentum on himself or just have to block/dodge. It's not like the 4th uses a spear it's like actually decking somebody with your arm. Would he just like do similar reaction style counterattack. Instead of just pushing the arm back into his chest, he'd just break his elbow or something. hit the elbow with a rasengan or something while he's using the Lariat and make the Raikage punch himself in the head hahaha
36:41 Interesting image, editor
Nah ngl I didn’t know he slid that in there 😂
Naruto ain’t got nothing on Danzo, Sasuke won thanks to his genjutsu and being able to make Danzo use up all his Izanagis quickly
Thank you! Can’t believe not many people understand this 🤦♂️
Naruto has a thousand shadow clones and tons of ways to merk Danza till he runs out of izanagi , on top of that if he uses the 9 tails chakra danzos wood style would react to it and Danzo would lose control..
Just with how much Charkra naruto has naruto is more suited for a long drawn out fight with Danzo,Sasuke was struggling and just getting use to the MS powers
This is after naruto has beaten pain..
With sage mode Naruto sense everything Danza is doing the izanagis wont even catch naruto by suprize..
Danzo has nothing for naruto
Danzo using 100 izanagi wouldnt beat naruto
Naruto would probably beat Danzo easier than what sasuke did
Yes this, Danzo would be an easier fight for Naruto than it was for Sasuke.
Danzo's izanagi would be exhausted by Naruto infinite chakra pool compared with his sage mode, Danzo has nothing to kill Naruto with.
@@86lanzono he definitely wouldn’t but ok
@@86lanzopain literally had naruto beat twice. It was only cuz of nine tails that he didn’t lose. Naruto even admitted that
Weell, In the OG Naruto Games, Chidori vs Neji Rotation was a “jutsu struggle” so anyone could win each other.
But I think the way Sharingan was done and how Sasuke was on par with Open Gate 2 or 3 of Rock Lee to surpass Gaara Speed, he could try to win with long distance Fireball Jutsu and positioning.
It would be Wild to see Sasuke Copy Neji’s Rotation.
Yknow what would’ve been so mean?
“Alright now we got Naruto vs Sasuke, Sakura, Sai and Yamato…….. 💀📠???”
34:19 Deidara lacked both arms. But even then, that Deidara was able to run away from Kakachi, Guy and Neji. Since sensorial abilities of Byakugan are way better than the ones of the Sharingan, that's how well he was hiding. Sasuke wouldn't have found him. The win condition for Deidara is to run away and since there are no jinchuurikis there he doesn't need to bait anyone.
The guy thats not tg reminds me of how when swag does vids with others and its so clear that he has a bias and the other person goes with it even though they dont agree
Which part G
have you ever thought about Gaara vs Different Akatsuki members? like if sasori fought him. or if kakuzu and hidan fought him and so on
This could be a fire video topic
@@ThunderGodTG I figured it could be each Akatsuki member trying to capture Gaara and how they deal with him and possibly the village or just straight one v one matches.
Gaara beats Sasori 1on1. Beats Zombie Team single handily.
@@jms7265 would love to watch the hidan 1v1.
Hidan just charges into a sand tsunami and dies🤣
So I heard Sasuke had an advantage against Gaara that he did not know about at the time being a lightning style user and Gaara being and earth style user much like deidara... Could I argue that Gaaras defense is particular weak to Sasuke's lightning?.
Where as nejis rotation would not be weak to Sasuke's chidori like Gaaras "ultimate defense" obviously was
Also Sasuke doesn't start off with chidori so to think he pulls it out before neji stops him from being able to use it at all is ridiculous
Every blow neji lands messes up your chakra control and Sasuke does not have massive chakra like Naruto, messing Naruto's already bad chakra control is not as much as messing Sasuke's good control up.. bad reserves/good control - control = bad, very bad
Great reserves/bad control - control = you better block all 64 points or it's near meaningless
Can’t believe they forgot to bring up naruto vs naruto and sasuke vs sasuke those would be such contentious fights to be discussed
Dude naruto would roll naruto dude no diff, he’d blitz naruto so hard the entire village would ostracize naruto. And don’t get me on sasuke dude, sasuke would neg diff Sasuke so much he makes his life a living hell cause he doesn’t worth the effort then kill sasuke’s brother just to make sure Sasuke knows he’s alone in the world.
Filler anime Gaara rescue arc style. Maybe Lee, Tenten and Neji would get to do something in that arc then instead of fighting themselves?
@@vannieuwenbergwilliam7792 wait that’s filler I didn’t even know i didn’t even read that fight when i read the manga because I remembered it was awful
@@THAT_GUY119 I think they don't even fight anything when they activate the 4 tags.
1:05:19 This is not really a physical fight so you may as well count that Sasuke as having a limited version of EMS. So he's not necessarily destroyed by lacking sharingan abilities.
Now, you gotta consider the main issue: The win condition is to drain Kurama's chakra. Can Sasuke's body even do that at that point? Naruto is able to do a lot just because he's an Uzumaki. Has amazing quantity of chakra and amazing longevity. Without something replacing that like Hashirama cells and/or a very powerful and versatile sealing jutsu like the rinnegan one I don't think most people would be able to survive that.
Can i make a case for Mei :
1 we know that the clones Naruto use don't have a lot of durability (and Naruto always use them to creat the Rasengan and Rasenchuriken)
2 and with Mei's Acidic Mist Jutsu will which affect the whole area used on
(and can progressively desolve a Susano ribs cage a exelent defence)
3 so if Naruto is inside the area of the Mist he can't use Shadows Clones nor his strongests jutsus and he will be limited to Frog Kumite and Summonings
Here's a question for Sasuke vs Neji: can Chidori pierce rotation? If yes, Sasuke wins. If no, Neji wins Neji just needs to hit one Chakra point in Sasuke's dominant arm to win too, basically. It'd be an interesting fight, since Sasuke had Lee speed with a Sharingan, but I'm less confident in Sasuke for that one than you guys, just cause I think Sasuke would have issues pre-chidori. And I don't think Sasuke would go straight into the Chidori, and that risks him getting his Chakra blocked and him unable to burst with new Chakra the way Naruto could with the 9 tails chakra
If yes double ko
Zesty god with another w vid
Sage mode Naruto reacting to the 3rd raikage speed is ignored ?
As far as Neji vs. Sauske goes there a couple of issues I see which make me disagree with the outcome.
If Sasuke is base Lee speed, and Lee thinks he needs up to the 5th gate to beat Neji then Neji should be able to keep pace with Sasuke since he constantly spars with base Lee.
Further more Neji's rotation is wind style base. Wind is strong against lightning, so the elemental advantage plus the capability for Neji to react to Sasuke's speed I would say puts him above Sasuke.
Lastly as far as eyes go, base Byakugan is superior to base Sharingan. Especially when they aren't even 3 tome, like Sasuke's at the time.
Overall Neji has superior jutsu, eyes, elemental advantage, intellect, experience and is stronger than Lee who is stronger than Sasuke.
I gotta give it to Neji.
rotation is wind style?? i don’t think so, but it’s comparable to rasengan which clashes with chidori, so yeah i don’t think chidori just wins.
i’m with you otherwise.
Neji rotation is raw chakra, not wind style
@@palloaeIt isn't comparable to rasengan. Naruto with a kunai tied with it
@@exequielbreton4393 it wasn’t with a kunai. it was with the ninetails’ cloak, at least in the manga.
and mb i meant rotation is comparable to rasengan as far as properties. they’re both essentially just rotating chakra, but as far as strength, i’m not sure. i can’t think of any reason to say they’re not comparable in strength tho.
What makes me argue that rotation is wind style is based on the fact that Neji, as well as other Hyuga in the series, have shown to be able to use wind style attacks like Air Palm and such. Like, as far as actual jutsu goes, I don't think any Hyuga, other than Buroto, have shown an affinity to use any other nature than wind. So wind seems to be the natural nature affinity that the clan possesses, just like the Uchiha and their affinity for fire nature.
Obviously I could be wrong about rotation being wind style, but based on the Neji's jutsu and the clan as a whole it seems that rotation could very easily be a wind style ability.
And also when Pain stabbed Naruto with his SP Rods Naruto was no longer in Sage Mode he was in base. When Naruto fought pain H2H in Sage mode after he reversed summoned a clone Naruto legit shattered pains SP Rods with the palm of his hand. Sage Mode Naruto body is basically indestructible you have to be at a certain power level in order to even damage Naruto while he’s in Sage Mode.
NEE HORIZONNS YESS
43:04 Gamabunta is actually a decent option. He has ranged water attacks and if Gamabunta hits once and drops him to the floor, Naruto gets a chance to one-shot him with Rasen Shuriken.
Great video! In another note, I never understood why Sasuke never used chakra rods as part of his arsenal.
Love this video idea.
My argument for Naruto vs. Fourth Raikage A:
When Naruto encountered the Third Raikage during the war, it wasn’t kcm naruto that dealt with him, it was sage mode. Naruto was able to percieve, respond and counter the Third’s final form in speed with ONLY SENJUTSU AND THIS WAS ONLY A CLONE THAT WAS ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS FEAT. Naruto stands a very good chance against A especially with allies in Karin/Zetsu and Obito. I’d go extreme on the opinion and say theres actually a zero percent chance Naruto loses even with just sage powers.
42:20 BRO..... Devious XD
1:01:53 If Naruto falls in the Izanagi trap and lowers his guard he could lose easily. If Naruto is careful, he doesn't even need sage mode. Just go and send waves of clones until he spends all his eyes.
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"Naruto dominates Mei" George Takei: Ohhh myyyy
You guys forget that rasen shuriken has similar effects as gentle fist: it destroys all tenketsu in the body. Its just kishimoto himself forgot about that effect but if Ei would be hot by that one then he may not die but he would be out of fight for sure.
Based off of narutos reaction to just orochimaru inciting the existence of sasuke, I’d say them talking about how they wanna take Sasuke away would make Naruto tweak and whip out 4th tail completely obliterate the sound 4
Nice vid bro
All I know is that there's no way Naruto beats Diedara. Even if Sasuke's win was BS, everything up that happened before C0 made sense. I don't even think Naruto even makes it to that point bc of how bad of a matchup it is. He probably can do okay vs Danzo bc of his insane chakra reserves but I'm not sure he deduces what's going on as quickly as sasuke does. I don't see him beating Itachi either.
I gotta disagree with the sage naruto vs raikage. In the same way that dependending on the matchup hebi sasuke>taka sasuke I think kcm2>sage mode> kcm1. Not saying sage naruto wins but he definitely isnt getting speed blitzed
You could definitely make a whole separate video on sage naruto pulling up to the 5 kage summit with prep time,intel,ma and pa,summons and intent to kill
3:49 Zaku* Dosu shitted his pants watching Sasuke beating Zaku
On Neji Vs Sasuke, Sasuke’s chidori doesn’t amp his speed, it requires him to simply move at his max speed, and Neji, who can see chakra, would either stop it with rotation, or if he judges that he can’t, would move out of the way because the chidori requires linear movement
Chidori does amplify speed although this is mainly when movements are linear, Chidori does also not require linear movement, there are just times when Sasuke & Kakashi move as such to gain the speed jump. Sasuke can literally hold Naruto up and charge a chidori while standing still.
@@ThunderGodTGwhile one can use a chidori while stationary, it’s max power requires a running start. While it is true that lightning release can amp speed if used in a cloak form, Sasuke doesn’t demonstrated speed amps with it until boruto
Eyeruka is crazy
Nah you see these strays are just uncalled for
Frankly, the only reason Sasuke survived his fight with the Raikage at the Kage summit was his insane defense thanks to Susanoo. Naruto doesn't have that. Sure, Naruto and Sasuke are pretty much equal at this point, though I think that's more of an "on average" thing because Naruto has more chakra to pump into his attacks, making them stronger, while Sasuke has tons of defense thanks to Susanoo, but at the end of the day Sasuke would've been bodied without Susanoo and Naruto would end up just like that against the Raikage. Besides, Naruto needed to gain control over Kurama's chakra to even become relevant to Raikage's speed, which is a huge amp compared to his base and a large amp even compared to his Sage Mode. All in all, Naruto gets bodied here
Nah, if the sound guy with the sound gauntlet that fought curse mark one Sasuke and lost. If that guy fought Naruto and Sakura was in danger like she was in the original fight. Naruto's emotions would kick in and let lose some of his KCM mode it would be either like it was against that huge giant snake or it would be like it was against haku but a little less. Naruto seeing Sakura captured like she was in the original Naruto being held by her hair by the sound ninja. Would Kick in Naruto's emotions. Thus, turning him KCM mode. He would obliterate that sound ninja worse then CM1 Sasuke did. That sound ninja would be done for. Naruto loves Sakura in his mind. So, seeing her be captured would trigger him into KCM mode. He love Sakura so seeing her grabbed by the hair and threatened would not be a good move for the sound four. In the original Naruto Sakura cut her hair to be set free. But, in this Scenario. Naruto would see Sakura the one in his mind he loves. Would see her hurting by being grabbed by the hair and a Kunai held to her. He would then let his emotions go wild and would yell at them and soon turn KCM mode. He would try and yell at them to let her go. They of course would not. Which would make Naruto even more mad. He would turn KCM mode and obliterate the sound 4. Like how he did against haku. Maybe the same as haku. If not a little less. Either way he would turn KCM mode.
I disagree with sasuke vs sick orochimaru. Suigetsu just implies that orochimaru with his arms would beat sasuke, which means hiruzen fight orochimaru would beat sasuke not naruto fight orochimaru would beat sasuke. Plus sasuke had been doing secret training the entire time so sasuke is a decent amount stronger than orochimaru thinks. Sasuke’s lightning release was pretty effective against orochimaru, and he shouldn’t really have an answer for his genjutsu or kirin.
Sasuke admits out loud of his own volition that tenchi bridge Orochimaru> him and that he waited until he was at deaths door to step up. We see Orochimaru easily break out of Hebi Sasuke’s genjutsu on panel, and he can just poison Sasuke to subdue him like we literally see deathbed Orochimaru do.
@@hobbyhorse5848 Sasuke may have say that but he never saw orochimaru at his best, he trained only with a sick orochimaru. Also what orochimaru is gonna do against kirin, it's way too fast for him to even react. When did orochimaru break hebi sasuke genjustu, it's never hapenned he got literally beaten by sasuke genjustu, he was destroyed by 13 years old itachi base genjustu. And we know that hebi sasuke and a stronger itachi are equal in genjustu with the base sharingan, it's a fact we see that in their figth. Even at his best orochimaru can't break hebi sasuke genjustu, the sannin are just overated in the naruto world and mostly in the fandom. Unless you can show me a panel where sick orochimaru break hebi sasuke genjustu, you can't say he's weaker than him. And sasuke didn't say he's weaker, he sayed he beat him when he was sick. You forgot to take contest, he stomped orochimaru without problem but was hurt after figthing deidara who suigestu, karin and even sasuke think is weaker than orochimaru but in reality he'not. Just what he's gonna do against C4 kagura or how can he beat deidara ? Sasuke may have sayed that he's "weaker" than him but his feats and justus put him higher than orochimaru even in hebi.
@@israelmatulimubalama1496Kirin is a nonfactor. Sasuke needs to heat up the entire atmosphere to do it, which against Orochimaru he just wouldn’t be able to do. Orochimaru tanks 4 tailed Naruto attacks, to think Sasuke is anywhere close to that level is delusional
@@tomasbedoya2901 sorry but i don't get why he wouldn't be able to do kirin even if it's requires prep time. Orochimaru tanks 4 tails attacks yes, he's also the same guy who told that three tails naruto is leagues below sasuke so unless you think the 4 tails version is ten times stronger than the three tails, saying that sasuke is around four tails level is not delusional because that's what orochimaru and the story implied . In fact he can do even better than orochimaru because he can supress the chakra of the 4 tails with his sharingan and we literally saw that later in the arc. Orochimaru sayed that if the bijuudama had touch him directly he will die that's why he uses a barrier and i don't say kirin is stronger than a bijuudama but it's definetely strong enough to kill him and it's way faster than the bijuudama for sure. Orochimaru won't be able to react at kirin even if you think somehow he can survive it or sasuke won't be able to use his justu, how orochimaru is gonna break sasuke genjustu because he literally lose to both a 13 years old itachi and hebi sasuke base genjustu sharingan. And with that aspect, it's a fact that a more stronger and experienced itachi was equal to hebi sasuke base sharingan genjustu so even at his best shape he can't break sasuke sharingan genjustu. I don't think i'm unfair to that orochimaru, he was equal to 4 tails naruto but even deidara can beat that 4 tails naruto, we literally see him no diff the entire three tails who should be stronger and more durable than this naruto, and if you won't accept that the entire three tails is stronger, deidara can still beat that 4 tails naruto with c4 kagura and hebi sasuke beats deidara so am i still delusional ? If you look without bias at all what i wrote you'll see that i'm rigth.
@@israelmatulimubalama1496 he cannot use Kirin because it is incredibly circumstantial, he had to trick Itachi into warming the atmosphere himself to use it, Sasuke cannot invoke it by himself in a battle, Kirin is actually a shit jutsu. All that work needed to do it once, and he couldn't even break crippled Itachi's Susanoo with it, let alone KILL four tails Naruto. Orochimaru said base Naruto was much weaker than Sasuke, you cannot extrapolate that comparison to Kyubi Chakra cloak Naruto in any form, and if we use their words as proof, Sasuke said he would lose to an Orochimaru that wasn't literaly in his deathbed. Additionally, hebi Sasuke is not as strong as Itachi, in no way is this implied, to the point that, in the war ark, EMS Sasuke was still being lectured by Itachi in the Kabuto fight. Orochimaru is much stronger than Deidara, and even so, Sasuke, even with the advantage of lightning and script aspull, was sweating at the end of that fight. There's no way Hebi Sasuke scales to 4 tailed Naruto or Orochimaru at that point in time, Orochimaru has jutsu at much greater scale, is much more durable, and is a more experienced fighter.
U guys should do pain vs 5 Kate summit
You know what would be cool? A what if about naruto sage mode and hebi sasuke teamed up against the akatsuki duos
Can chidori go through, the rotation tho? The rotation is a counter move that does dmg to the attacker .
sasuke gets almighty pushed and evaporated calling it now
Question: As an edo, could an 8 Gates user constantly regen from the toll of the 8th being open?
They’d probably need their free will tho.
My understanding is that the gates are chakra generatee by the living body floeing though it. Edos wouldnt have any of their own chakra, theyre just powered by the caster. Like i would doubt a hyuga could shut down the chakra flow of an edo as well.
@@ianmckee4726Year late reply, but the edos definitely aren't powered by the user, considering they'll still be walking around even if the caster dies by Kabuto's own admission.
Nice vid
If they swapped fights they’d be dead.
46:54 Even fully recovered Sasuke can't deal with Pain. It's too troublesome for what he can do. Summon spam will keep him completely busy if he uses Susanoo, shinra tensei can disperse amaterasu and the Preta path can absorb it, Sasuke has no counter to Preta path (while Naruto gets a freebie due to sage mode), and considering the encounter (Itachi and Nagato) in the war arc, I don't think visual genjutsu will be very effective. Not only Sasuke can't win, he doesn't have a chance in hell. Not only he gets outclassed, but it's also a terrible match even for EMS Sasuke (who is way, way more powerful than sage mode Naruto). I think EMS Sasuke has a decent chance but even then I don't think it's a good one.
47:43 It's not a matter of "X is stronger than Y, and Y is stronger than Z so X beats Z". The kind of fighter that Sasuke is has a way higher power requirement to be able to defeat Pain, because Pain has a counter for everything he has. Also he can't convince Nagato to do anything because he doesn't have Talk no jutsu.
And all that is, under the assumption that Sasuke starts the fight by destroying the Asura path.
Two things when Naruto lost in the forest of death Kurama would have awoken and beat Zakus ass, and I think Sasuke would def still beat Kiba I think Sasuke curse mark activated because his opponent was a chakra absorber so it was disturbing Sasuke chakara. Kiba would have no such ability so Controlled Sasuke I think could upset Kiba by catching him lacking. Otherwise loved video bro keep them videos coming!!
was expecting an obama feature for this video ngl
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My comment is hella late but I'd like to argue: Dosu is getting dog walked by Naruto when he sees Sakura is beaten and badly hurt. At this time Naruto has a crush on Sakura, he will get pissed even harder than he did with Sasuke. And said kyuubi naruto scales far beyond sharingan tomoe 2 partial curse mark.
Naruto loses to the sound 4. But there is a scenario where he wins, which is he finds out why they are in Konoha and Orochimaru wants Sasuke. This will cause Naruto to tap into Kurama subconsciously or directly which is when i argue Naruto can outright kill some of the sound 4 especially if the cloak comes out.
From what we see in the Sasuke vs Naruto fight. Naruto going into cloak was a response to Naruto's life being in danger from Kurama. If the sound 4 are willing to kill Naruto to get to Sasuke the nine tails cloak comes out and that Naruto scales beyond the sound 4 quite comfortably. And even with genjutsu the cloak will act by itself.
This is again conditional and obvious but i argue there are scenarios where Naruto taps into Kurama for an amp to protect Sasuke.
not here to argue, video is dope, but Naruto verse Deidara honestly would be more close. like Sasuke got some god tier level plot armor in that fight, summoning the snake manda and crawling into it's mouth to live from an explosion of like 12 nukes. Theres zero chance in hell Sasuke should of actually survived that. I would argue that though Deidara is kicking Naruto's ass almore at the beginning and middle of the fight, by this point Naruto does have the wind style rasengan and getting beating up bad enough would 100% go into at least 3 or 4 tails state, forcing Deidara to using that nuke ability to end the fight and we all know the healing factor of kurama's chakra, letting alone the defensive capablitiy. Naruto probably would of been scuffed up pretty bad by it still, but he's be walkin and ready to fight within a week or less. you don't gotta agree, but you can't say it wasn't a huge ass pull that Sasuke lived from that fight.
Personally I felt that Sasuke wouldve demolished kiba because instead of forcing back the curse mark he wouldve had to have used it when he got backed into a corner. Kiba taunting and running his mouth likely saying something bad about the Uchiha would have set sasukes temper into volcanic mode.
Wouldve completely changed the plotline but I dont see Sasuke accepting the L when he has an easy option albeit undesirable.
Where the Garra video at bro ?
1:04:03 Danzo cannot place a seal on Naruto if he can't find the right Naruto. Worst case scenario, if Danzo succeeds and Naruto is angry enough he can go 8 tails and destroy Danzo.
37:30 Yeah. If Sasuke won is because Orochimaru was even more sick. His body was completely spent from fighting the four tails Naruto.
Avatar a video said kyuubi transformation in the other beasts, but kurama was reaper death sealed into chakra
Switch Obito and Kakashi next.
Back in time
Won what?
you guys should’ve added the bell test with naruto and sakura and kakashi can kakashi take on Sasuke and sakura at the start of Shippuden 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
57:17 "Sauske was doing alright" he was about to die... bro that's a really dumb thing to say there. His life was literally saved by a third party stealing everyones chakra and giving him a bunch. The Mizukage might be easily the worst kage, but she was boot to murder Sauske.
Ngl, I don’t necessarily disagree with Sasuke beating Toneri but that statement from the last movie novel don’t mean much to me.
1) Naruto by the end of Shippuden is blatantly stronger than Sasuke….by the time of the last, Sasuke no longer has the chakra of the 9 bijuu while Naruto has gained the other half of Kurama and has been training. Like I get Sasuke has been training too and has gotten more used to the rinnegan but it doesn’t make any logical sense as to how that’s an equal amp to A WHOLE OTHER HALF OF KURAMA. If he still had the bijuu chakra that makes sense but he doesn’t.
2) imma get real nasty rq. Sasuke is effectively Kakashi’s only student. Kakashi didn’t teach Sakura squat and he literally pushed Naruto away to teach personally teach Sasuke. Naruto’s teachers were Jiraiya, Bee, and Pa. Yea he came up with a training method for Naruto to master the rasenshuriken and gave him that hint on looking two ways at once, but other than that naruto was basically learning how to do that on his own. mind you, kakashi wouldn’t have even been able to come up with that method if it wasn’t for Yamato.
As adults tho it can make sense for them to be relative
They’re equal bruh
I don’t see Chunin Exams Sasuke beating Chunin Exams Neji. The only way that Sasuke could win that is if he pulls out curse mark or he legit instantly falls back from neji and jumps into chidori. And it’s questionable if that chidori can break through rotation.
All in all if Sasuke tries to swap hands with neji he would ultimately lose as neji will shit down his chakra points to the point he won’t even be able to pull out a chidori and atp it’s GG for Sasuke unless he relies on Curse Mark. And it’s questionable that neji can legit evade Chidori Sasuke since he’s as fast as Weightless Lee at this point. But I’ll say if Sasuke uses Curse Mark he wins but if he doesn’t He loses this fight to Neji.
53:00 that Naruto would be massively weakened because he made dozens of clones and his power was split between them
what about kabutos flute genjutsu??
was it sasukes and itachis sharingan that allowed them to release it… or is it just having two people present?
just realised how naruto deals with genjutsu lol
Sage mode nullifies genjutsu AFAIK
@@vannieuwenbergwilliam7792no it doesn’t. Where does it say that?
Straight up, I don't think Sssuke could beat Neji during the exams. Its not a matter of who is faster, but who is more skilled. Lee's secret tech to try to beat Neji was the gates. Sasuke copied Lee's movements, which I can only imagine is something Neji is accustomed to, and even if not, no blind spot Byakugan, so moving quick behind Neji is not an advantage. Rotation can probably also deflect Chidori. Then theres the whole thing about Gentle Fist.
Wonder what the outcome of the final valley fight would be lol