Songbird: Selfish and will do anything she can do in order to survive, even betraying her own friends. Reed: A man true to his words, but sadly just another loyal lapdog to a corrupt government. These characters really makes you question whether is it really worth it to be a "good guy" in Cyberpunk...
More like . . . Songbird: a victim of manipulation and abuse from the NUSA, Myers, Reed, and Hansen, who just wants to be free. Rees: a dead man walking who gave up on everything he believes in and will never be free from the leash wrapped around his neck. Saving So Mi over helping Reed was the easiest choice I ever made in this game.
The fact so many people have different opinions on how you should handle this shows that these are the types of decisions we wanted from the very start in the base game. This dlc was amazing and if the rest of the game was like this it might be CD project reds best game. Either way what an amazing dlc
i still loved the base game and think its as good as last of us, but then again i loved destiny 1 base campaign so i have a very strange taste in story-telling.
I've beaten this game so many times, gotten every possible ending out there. For the DLC, my V decided he was tired of running and tired of living. Saving Songbird was the one thing he knew he could get right. I let her take the cure and go to the moon. I killed Reed, and stormed Arasaka tower right through the front door, all by myself just to prove once and for all who's the baddest mother fucker in night city. When all was said and done I let Johnny walk away with the body, and that felt like a good way to say goodbye to Cyberpunk 2077. "Haven't forgotten a thing. Never will." Until next time, CDPR. Thanks for making this once-in-a-generation. game.
@@Brandon_Y. Johnny is your only real friend. If you live without implants everyone ditches you, Jonny is a ride or die. Let him have a second chance to redeem himself
@@ivo96 nobody ditches you, you ditch them. Literally you ghost for 2 years all of a sudden. Judy is willing to have you back as a friend, but she doesn't live anywhere in NC. Victor is the goat as always. Misty still the goat too. Panam could have literally died looking for you, we don't know, but if she just ghosted you that is totally understandable after 2 years. Kerry basically acts like you were never gone, he's ready to have you back immediately.
@@SkimoStories Bro you were put into a coma lmao all it takes is "yea i went through life saving surgery and was comatose for 2 years" and that's all the justification you need, they have no right to throw you to the side like that especially after everything you did for them, they 100% ditched you.
I chose to shoot reed like 5 times and every time I couldn't shoot so I came here to see if it was possible. Then I remembered I ran out of handgun ammo during the mission, so my pistol had no ammo to shoot lol warning to anyone like me, if you want that ending make sure you have ammo to do it.
@@sh-kq4roI killed Songbird. The NUS president was so cold and unwelcoming I was genuinely curious so I went back and got the alive ending. The ending killed me. V lost everyone.
@@desertdude8274 I wanted my ending to be the one where i helped her get to the moon, so i went with Reed's plan first and get the cure for myself, and holy fuck that ending is depressing as fuck!
If you betray reed, you save Alex at Hansen's club. If you then choose to shoot Reed, you save him from being a pawn to an organization that ruined his life. Then youre able to fulfill your initial promise to Songbird by sending her to the moon. V may not get a cure out of this ending, but its the best one. "You can't run from your past, you cant hide from your fate."
@@tigrispanthera5496 I feel like this was literally his opportunity to change all of that. He was brought out to do this job, and sided with Myers in the end anyway. As V says, he will even up in a coffin with a flag draped over it either way. May as well be the one to do it for him. He had a chance right here to change, yet still chose not to.
Lmao killing someone is not the same as saving someone. You spared him from being a corporate lapdog, but you didn't save him in any way. You ended him, plain and simple, no sugarcoating it.
I honestly got way more attached to Songbird than Reed. He’s cool and charismatic in his own way, but his adherence to the FIA despite his personal beliefs made him (in my eyes at least) basically indistinguishable from all the goons I killed beforehand
@@DjBattlemaster2022 with Songbird when you're at Hansen's lab. When you're on the train to the orbital launch pad, make sure to choose the option of carrying Songbird out of it. Do NOT call Reed. Reed will confront you in the port, choose the option to pull your gun out, then bam.
I got this ending and it feels like Song didn't survive but even if she didn't survive its whats best for Song and probably Reed too. Reed, even tho he is a good guy he is still a blind fuckign dog same as Goro. I been checking the alternative endings out and its not something I would want for Song. Everyone is gonna have different opinions on Song but to me Song is still the same young girl tho broke into Militech HQ and nearly got herself killed. A stupid little girl who just wants to fly but istend got her wings clipped by Myers and Reed. Even tho Reed had good intentions he failed her because he blindly follows Myers and FIA.
I was just thinking the same thing Johnny is that best friend everyone needs that tells you the stuff you gotta hear even when you know you did someome or something wrong
Chose to go with Songbird when we were in Hansen's lab. Motherfucker betrayed me on that damn train, telling me only one dose exists. Handed her over to Reed but didn't make a deal to cure V. Also declined Reed's text message. Can trust Reed but can't trust the NUSA after all, especially Myers. Not bout to go down the bad corpo ending again. tl;dr Made some choices, now Johnny boy and I are back to square one.
@@aurelnpounengnong3720 Man have principles, respectable B) First time playing I just refused saving Songbird - finishing main quest line right at that moment, at the very beginning.
I did the same with male v. I didn't take the cure out of principles. And it seems in character with my Streetkid V. At least that's how I see it. And plus, Johnny seems to like the choice that I've made saying that I'm not a sellout. That's a high praise coming from him.
@@trvpmusic25691) If you side with Reed, Alex gets killed and you fight Hansen. 2) If you side with Songbird, Alex kills Hansen then quickly leaves after seeing you side with her. So Alex lives.
@@Saiyentarble thats what johnny says when you give her over to reed - its a bible reference from the part when judas betrayed jesus It basicly means like: what did you get by betraying someone... (sorry if my english isnt that good - its not my first language)
@@aristonaragao3171 It is true, btw. Literally when you arrive to Dogtown, there's a tarrot symbol, which descrives a person, whom act on impulse and emotion, and cannot be trusted(I wonder who lol). Plus, during the jumping maze section,when Song and V talk, there is a lot of foreshadowing via dialogue. This DLC is honestly the best story DLC I've ever played
Soon as So Mi told me there was only one cure available, I immediately sold her out. Couldn't stand to get backstabbed like that, shame on her to fall asleep, cause I had the last laugh. Until I went through the full ending at Langley, that is. Then I wasn't laughing as much.
Yeah at first when I played the DLC I was angry with her and was tempted to just betray her at the very end but I said fuck it might as well commit to my decision but shooting Reed was really hard on me because a) Reeds a nice guy but is so fucking obligated to honor and the loyalty to NUSA and b) It’s FUCKING IDRIS ELBA. Needless to say after me contemplating about my choice after the DLC was over I still felt conflicted for shooting Reed so I loaded the save to see what would happen if I turn Songbird in and in my personal opinion V getting cured is a depressing ending but no matter how you spin it the endings are sad and depressing all around as it should because there rarely is happy ending in cyberpunk stories.
I have issues with emotions and expressing them. Phantom Liberty had me crying internally one of the few media pieces where i was questioning everything. There is no good or bad ending. We simply live with the consequences. Possibly the best expansion ive ever experienced.
If you know the other ending and how is Neural Matrix working on V... i'm deadly worried about Songbird in this one, and how is she after using that device bc most of Songbird's body are implants...
That might be a limitation of the NUSA doctors, those in space are said to be the best of the best, it is where most of the rich and powerful live after all.
I wouldn't discount the possibility that the negative effects V endures in the new ending were done to V on purpose, removes her as a threat forever and Myers and the NUSA don't give a whit about anyone but Myers and the NUSA
@@ecrulis6954 Might be the case, but it's more likely that the relic caused the damage to V's body. If you look into it, the relic already took over V's entire body, removing the relic would make the implants useless because it only responds to the relic now. When V was killed, the nano machines inside the relic took over to repair the body, which would make the body have to depend on those nano machines to keep it alive and well.
@@NXDf7 So the surgery was legit and the deal did came through huh. V lost everything and everyone but the future within the NUSA (deskjob with Reed and the likes). Ironic that for all the talk of betrayal and whatever the only one who came through for V in this ending is the gorvernment.
@@schmushschroom3873 Reed mentions that they first tried the neural matrix on Songbird but haven't succeeded, so they decided to use it on V. Even the government wanted to fuck V over.
Definitely happy with saving Songbird and killing Reed. Even if she betrayed V, at least she earns some kind of freedom from the nusa. Reed, even if good natured, just proved to be lapdog of Myers and the Nusa.
She can get her own help then. Not v’s problem some hoe who cant go a day without betraying the people who love her, needs help. She can be a grown up and get it done herself like v does. Shes pathetic
@@joshuamaldonado250 hmm, like v lies to others on their gigs and quests? did you end up helping takemura all the way through despite him saving you? how many 'innocents' did you kill and harm in your playthrough? reed and alex killed the redhead twins in cold blood. let's stop pretending that if v was in songbird's shoes, things would have been anymore different.
Ultimately I choose Songbird over Reed. What did it for me is that Reed doesn't even stick to his own ideals yet claimed that is what he lives by. The way he reacted (or lack thereof) to Myers orders on killing Song just made me hate him. Songbird doesn't have a clean slate at all, but she's basically backed herself into a similar corner that V has. That alone is enough to swing V's opinion heavily in Songbird's favor. No way in hell I'd let someone go through the same shit as V especially if I have the power to change that fate. Even with Song backstabbing me, I feel like V would've done the same given the same cards as Songbird.
I would've shot Sol with a pistol with non-lethal mod but somehow he still bled. I wouldn't shoot him in the head but shoot his leg, arm or non-critical areas and maybe he'll lands in a hospital recovering and lives. Songbird would be happy on the moon being free. That's how I would like to imagine how it should have ended. PS: I would like for V to send flowers to Sol in a hospital and she'll apologize to him about shooting him with no conflicts. Still, she won't get the cure.
I agree that shooting him fells bad since if he lives he becomes a good friend, but even with lethal shots he almost brings his gun up in time to fire back. anything less than lethal and you die.
@@jamescoles2067 In my game I tried to shoot him and got bug message "Action blocked" and he shot me so after checkpoint I spammed mouse button and accidentally double tapped him.
I gotta say, sending So Mi to the Moon is the best possible ending for thematic reasons. Even everything Reed said about consequences came true, but just not in the way he would have wanted. Myers couldn't fathom anything less than total control over anything she deemed as valuable. Because of her iron grip, she lost her most loyal agents, and her most powerful weapon. Alex always believed her next mission would be her last. But even in Monte Carlo, she's still bound to her FIA overlords. Reed chose duty, orders, and his nation before himself and his friends, but he never really had a choice. He could never see what he was truly fight for, what he really wanted, and it killed him. Songbird finally gets the opportunity to leave her cage, spread her wings, and fly free. But now she carries the weight that came with the life she sacrificed so much to keep. You had to choose to give up your shot at a cure that doesn't have an Arasaka Logo slapped on it somewhere, for someone who never had any intentions on actually saving you. But you got to *choose* . No "Greater Good", No Duty, No Loyalty. You fought for a choice. You fought for *_You_* . That's the one thing anyone can really strive for in a world that sees you as a tool.
When playing the DLC I knew that V wouldn't be cured because the DLC takes place in the middle of the story. Wasnt too shocked when Song betrayed V, its unfortunately her nature. She just wanted to be free and so I killed Reed and sent her to the moon. Plus I don't think the dose would've lasted long anyways, the relic is too unpredictable. But then again, I guess we will never know. Once again CDPR writes another masterpiece. Can't wait for future games from them.
Such an incredibly tough set of choices in this beautiful game. Holy hell. I sided with Reed and went down his path initially, and overall I think it is much more rewarding (in terms of items, gameplay, and the NUSA-surgeon ending).
Not all choices here but giving up Song was the ending that left the highest amount of secondary characters with an "ok" ending and no deaths, so worth it. But I'll favor the ones that arent here, where you dont give her up nor kill Reeds. That's by far the best ending of this DLC if you forget about Alex.
Johnny could have really used V back then, things would have been different with her around. She is such a good influence on him cause I think that V changed Johnny more than he did her.
Bro I swear Reed said and did two things that were one was kinda subtle the second was outright a “remember who’s in charge” by this point I felt so unsure if I was making a good decision went from what’s in it for me to ok these guys are cool but so mi is legit a puppy from a bad home with a bad attitude I kept pausing here fr deciding on wether or not I should negotiate and it went on for like twenty minutes. Best game I’ve played ever I’ll rent is the way I remember Minecraft or black ops 1 and 2 serious memories to be made
I knew that So-Mi was bullshitting from the start and I knew that she was just a big a psychopath as anyone in NC but I still chose to save her from Reed purely because Reed and Alex killed Aurore
I think she'd want you to give her up in the end . The whole train ride she was crying about Reed and how she'd betray everyone . I think finding out she has to kill you and him to make it out might be too much .
Anyone know what the OST of this is? It’s a slower version of Gate K9 but I don’t know if it has a specific name. Also Cherami Leigh is a God-Tier actress!
I chose to betray and shoot Reed. I made my decision not to trust him after the scene where he and Alex killed the two netrunners. I get why they did it, but the fact that they didn't tell me prior made me realize I should not trust them, and after they used me, would do the same to me. So there was no question in my mind that I had to kill him or else.
Best outcome in my opinion is to save So Mi, give her an escape and stick to the best ending, which I believe to be leaving NC with Panam, Judy and the Nomads. Make Night City your bitch and then ride off into the sunset. Solomon was just a tool and he had it coming. A true puppet.
Nah So Mi was playing you and straight up uses you. I say best ending is side with Reed and then kill Songbird. Then don't fear the reaper to become a true legend.
This is just a terrible take. Reed is no saint sure but at least he is true to his word. Songbird actively fucks over anyone she can just so she can live. She literally tells V that she is wants to blow up a stadium full of innocent people as a distraction and tells V "their deaths are so that we can live" (which of course as we know she just means herself). Oh yeah and the fact that she waits until the last possible minute to tell you that there was only one cure all along and its reserved for herself only? Pretty much telling you "yeah you helped me thanks I guess have fun being an enemy of the NUSA and FIA while im in space getting the cure I promised you." The game tried to paint her as a mirror to V but she's really just V if they were selfish. She doesn't deserve a happy end.
@@asheru8271exactly, reed’s flawed but he cares about his partners and stays true to his word. Everything Songbird promised V was a lie. When I decided to side with Reed initially and she killed Alex and all those people at the stadium I lost any respect I had for her.
@@oxymrn7038 I think our V would've done the same. My V would've, s'why she sympathised. So Mi is not a bad person, just a jaded woman trapped in a corner with one way out.
I wanted to save Songbird untill Reed stood right in front of me. Even after the betrayal I wasn't going to call Reed and would let her be free even if it left some sour taste in my mouth. But I couldn't bring myself to kill Reed.
This was NOT handled well. I literally quick hack everyone with overheat and they are still alive but this one time I can't and just whip out a gun. It was one of the let downs albiet only one of very few in this amazing DLC. Thankfully I sided with Idris because how in the hell is going to not side with Idris Elba? Also, Songbird was a narcissistic, manipulative moron who didn't care how many people died as long as she survived. Absolutely no qualms about ending her life and denying Meyers her trophy.
I think it is incedible with what kinda detail they worked, you shoot him in the chest and he puts his hand on the wound. I shoot him in the head and he just fell dead. Sry reed had to do it...
I wish I could have just crippled the guy, I really liked his character, and though his loyalties where screwed in this, he was still a good guy… CDproject red made this game almost completely depressing and their lack of faith in humanity shows like a pair of sullied britches when these scenes are playing. Its as if the studios can’t believe in hope and good, that they try to punish you if you try to be upstanding, its one of my very few gripes about this great game.
You expect miracles to happen every time like in movies ? The game may not be realistic but the choices and the characters are very much real my friend and there's no miracles and good hope happening all around the world if it was we wouldn't be in the state we're in now ....Hope is a dream, Facts and reality makes progress
Actually there should be another option to help songbird and save reed but it was cut from the final game. Well the entire ending was cut... it was much better and happier in the leaked version
@@C1umsyJester it lacks character development now, everyone is shallow including reed and so mi. There was much more about everything, from the fact that so mi saved reed life to arasaka taking a part in all of this.
@@Micholex In which way does the story not show character development. Certain characters in any show have core fundamentals they do not shift from, but you see how small parts about their characters change, which you do see in the story
@@C1umsyJester Reed's backstory is incomplete, songbird is shown in the game now as a "traitor" of Reed, even tho it was Myers all along and So mi actually saved Reed by calling in a Trauma team, it opens a new dialogues that help us change Reed point of view and join our cause, it also shows that songbird has much more deeper backstorry than we think. She betrays V as well in current version of the game by finally revealing that it's impossible to save them both, in older leaks V was able to receive help from songbird's chip by choosing arasaka ending and then making a small little twist before the operation on the space clinic. Overall we got much worse version of the expansion ending and there was a lot of cut contet here as well so that's why i am a bit dissapointed.
@@Micholex The thing is there is no convincing Reed to let her go. Myer's said it at the beginning he is a man of true principle. He was betrayed by the NUS yet still answers when called on. He cannot break his princables no matter what; he even aknowleges this is his flaw an he has come to terms with it. Songbird betrayed the NUS and she has to accept the consequences, it kills Reed to do so but he follow through because he cannot break his prinables. Tbh there is no ending where reed would let her go to the moon. This isnt about her betraying him he never felt that way, Reed cannot turn on his principles as they are the only thing he has to cope with all the damage he has done. Neither of them are villains they are both victims caught in someone else's game
I always gave Songbird to reed the amount of times she betrayed her friends and lied to V just got to be I liked the idea of giving her a false escape only to trap her again she deserved it
I prefer shooting reed. He didn't really care for her. In the game just as in real life. You see what actually happened is that he was jelous of her power, and wanted her contained. The lady - V - who was saving her could tell he was bad for her; just after she put her down, as she was standing back up, she drew her gun and shot him in the chest. Then carried So Mi, to the plane; then they left together.
I killed Reed, headshot. After using up all the dialogue. I tried it both ways and this is one that felt right. So Mi was used and abused by Myers, as was Reed, and sending her back to that just felt wrong. The real Reed died in 2070, as was alluded to by Alex, and the one that came back was a hollow shell who couldn't find another purpose. Putting him to rest didn't feel wrong to me in exchange for So Mi. Also Johnny very much prefers you to not be a "sell out". So much fun to play in the spaceport, great music and ambiance. Amazing expansion.
Hand over Songbird is just like make a Pact with a another Devil Sure she's live But she will live under Myers gets used to scratch the blackwall for her own Benefit That's why when you betray her She will ask to ended her Makes her live just throw her to the fate worse than death
@@ZorenGamer2 its okay tho Since Im willing give my body to Johnny V become one with RogueAI behind the Blackwall The cure is busted anyway Making V life more miserable
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Songbird: Selfish and will do anything she can do in order to survive, even betraying her own friends.
Reed: A man true to his words, but sadly just another loyal lapdog to a corrupt government.
These characters really makes you question whether is it really worth it to be a "good guy" in Cyberpunk...
I saved songbird simply because she is right we are just tools for them the nusa and myers
@@frebb9270 And you were just a tool to So Mi. How are you different from Reed? Because you wanted to be a tool and help her anyway? Please.
@@Flopdoodle cause i simply hate myers and the nusa?
@@Flopdoodle cause i simply hate myers and the nusa?
More like . . .
Songbird: a victim of manipulation and abuse from the NUSA, Myers, Reed, and Hansen, who just wants to be free.
Rees: a dead man walking who gave up on everything he believes in and will never be free from the leash wrapped around his neck.
Saving So Mi over helping Reed was the easiest choice I ever made in this game.
The fact so many people have different opinions on how you should handle this shows that these are the types of decisions we wanted from the very start in the base game. This dlc was amazing and if the rest of the game was like this it might be CD project reds best game. Either way what an amazing dlc
i still loved the base game and think its as good as last of us, but then again i loved destiny 1 base campaign so i have a very strange taste in story-telling.
@@zZzSneak I love base game. The story is fantastic. But giving us branching paths like they promised would’ve added like 2-3x the replay value
Personally I helped reed but killed songbird when she asked for it, seemed like the best decision.
@@d.chrissMakes sense. That Blackwall stuff did a _number_ on her, after all
@@williammoutchia9292 yes, would have helped somgbird from the start but she wanted to sacrifice innocent people for her own gain which stopped me.
I've beaten this game so many times, gotten every possible ending out there. For the DLC, my V decided he was tired of running and tired of living. Saving Songbird was the one thing he knew he could get right.
I let her take the cure and go to the moon. I killed Reed, and stormed Arasaka tower right through the front door, all by myself just to prove once and for all who's the baddest mother fucker in night city. When all was said and done I let Johnny walk away with the body, and that felt like a good way to say goodbye to Cyberpunk 2077. "Haven't forgotten a thing. Never will."
Until next time, CDPR. Thanks for making this once-in-a-generation. game.
best ending possible. double sacrifice, one for songbird the other for silver hand.
@@ivo96 You hurt your friends by letting Johnny take V's body. this isn't a good ending.
@@Brandon_Y. Johnny is your only real friend. If you live without implants everyone ditches you, Jonny is a ride or die. Let him have a second chance to redeem himself
@@ivo96 nobody ditches you, you ditch them. Literally you ghost for 2 years all of a sudden. Judy is willing to have you back as a friend, but she doesn't live anywhere in NC. Victor is the goat as always. Misty still the goat too. Panam could have literally died looking for you, we don't know, but if she just ghosted you that is totally understandable after 2 years. Kerry basically acts like you were never gone, he's ready to have you back immediately.
@@SkimoStories Bro you were put into a coma lmao all it takes is "yea i went through life saving surgery and was comatose for 2 years" and that's all the justification you need, they have no right to throw you to the side like that especially after everything you did for them, they 100% ditched you.
I chose to shoot reed like 5 times and every time I couldn't shoot so I came here to see if it was possible. Then I remembered I ran out of handgun ammo during the mission, so my pistol had no ammo to shoot lol warning to anyone like me, if you want that ending make sure you have ammo to do it.
Damn that’s super unlucky I hope it didn’t ruin the experience XD
Good thing I was doing melee
Shooting him turns out to be better for him and Songbird.
Johnny literally saying that is the Best ending in dialogue, im so happy that was my first ending after all
I wanted my man Reed to live, but he’d still be indentured to Myers and the NUSA. As much as it hurt me, I freed him from that.
@@sh-kq4roI killed Songbird. The NUS president was so cold and unwelcoming I was genuinely curious so I went back and got the alive ending. The ending killed me. V lost everyone.
@@desertdude8274 right, V even sees how Vik had to sell to corpos, but worse is that V lost him/herself in this ending
@@desertdude8274 I wanted my ending to be the one where i helped her get to the moon, so i went with Reed's plan first and get the cure for myself, and holy fuck that ending is depressing as fuck!
If you betray reed, you save Alex at Hansen's club. If you then choose to shoot Reed, you save him from being a pawn to an organization that ruined his life. Then youre able to fulfill your initial promise to Songbird by sending her to the moon. V may not get a cure out of this ending, but its the best one.
"You can't run from your past, you cant hide from your fate."
i can’t bring myself to kill him. i have hope for him… he can bring himself outta the darkness… he can 😢 right? we can all change
@Garland846 NO don’t remind me of goro 😩😞 he can change too… pls
@@tigrispanthera5496 I feel like this was literally his opportunity to change all of that. He was brought out to do this job, and sided with Myers in the end anyway. As V says, he will even up in a coffin with a flag draped over it either way. May as well be the one to do it for him. He had a chance right here to change, yet still chose not to.
Lmao killing someone is not the same as saving someone. You spared him from being a corporate lapdog, but you didn't save him in any way. You ended him, plain and simple, no sugarcoating it.
@@Flopdoodle !!!!!
Man I put Sol down it absolutely broke me but I couldn’t let another person go through what V was going through 😭
I honestly got way more attached to Songbird than Reed. He’s cool and charismatic in his own way, but his adherence to the FIA despite his personal beliefs made him (in my eyes at least) basically indistinguishable from all the goons I killed beforehand
i shot him too
because i didn't want Myers to have a walking WMD LOL
how do i get to this part ?
@@DjBattlemaster2022 with Songbird when you're at Hansen's lab. When you're on the train to the orbital launch pad, make sure to choose the option of carrying Songbird out of it. Do NOT call Reed. Reed will confront you in the port, choose the option to pull your gun out, then bam.
I got this ending and it feels like Song didn't survive but even if she didn't survive its whats best for Song and probably Reed too. Reed, even tho he is a good guy he is still a blind fuckign dog same as Goro. I been checking the alternative endings out and its not something I would want for Song. Everyone is gonna have different opinions on Song but to me Song is still the same young girl tho broke into Militech HQ and nearly got herself killed. A stupid little girl who just wants to fly but istend got her wings clipped by Myers and Reed. Even tho Reed had good intentions he failed her because he blindly follows Myers and FIA.
That Judas line from Johnny is cold
Yeah that cut deep
That was deep
I was just thinking the same thing Johnny is that best friend everyone needs that tells you the stuff you gotta hear even when you know you did someome or something wrong
At this point, honor doesn't really count in Cyberpunk lol
true that
When has it ever
Chose to go with Songbird when we were in Hansen's lab. Motherfucker betrayed me on that damn train, telling me only one dose exists. Handed her over to Reed but didn't make a deal to cure V. Also declined Reed's text message. Can trust Reed but can't trust the NUSA after all, especially Myers. Not bout to go down the bad corpo ending again.
tl;dr Made some choices, now Johnny boy and I are back to square one.
damn, I mean then you literally went through the whole DLC and got nothing out of it lol at least take the damn cure XD
@@aurelnpounengnong3720 Man have principles, respectable B) First time playing I just refused saving Songbird - finishing main quest line right at that moment, at the very beginning.
@@aurelnpounengnong3720 I will say this taking the cure is not the best choice, that's all am willing to say.
@@aurelnpounengnong3720 Yeah no.
I did the same with male v. I didn't take the cure out of principles. And it seems in character with my Streetkid V. At least that's how I see it. And plus, Johnny seems to like the choice that I've made saying that I'm not a sellout. That's a high praise coming from him.
I like turning on Reed then turning on Songbird so that Alex can live 👍
I respect your opinion.
What??? 😂
@@trvpmusic25691) If you side with Reed, Alex gets killed and you fight Hansen.
2) If you side with Songbird, Alex kills Hansen then quickly leaves after seeing you side with her. So Alex lives.
Songbird was lying from the start. The Neural Matrix can only be used to save her, and not V.
oh it works on v though i doubt you would like the cost of using it
@@the.dandy.man2yeah a absolutely ahahaha
theres a drastically different ending that i got where you do use the neural matrix to save V
Okay and? LOL
@@UndyingHatred_ didn’t pay attention huh?
Just couldn't trust reed and myers after what they did to our roommates at the start of the dlc
Yeah, RIP Jacob and Taylor.
I handed her over to reed better than giving her up to the FIA...i cant kill my boy Reed and that was a great ending for me
"thought about how ya gonna spend your thirty pieces of silver?"
Thats what i did
@sionix5569 what do u mean by that haah
@@Saiyentarble thats what johnny says when you give her over to reed - its a bible reference from the part when judas betrayed jesus
It basicly means like: what did you get by betraying someone...
(sorry if my english isnt that good - its not my first language)
I can’t get over the fact song betrays V regarding the cure. I was with her up until then.
Yeah that sucks
doesn't suck, its who she is, there were signs
@@aristonaragao3171 It is true, btw. Literally when you arrive to Dogtown, there's a tarrot symbol, which descrives a person, whom act on impulse and emotion, and cannot be trusted(I wonder who lol). Plus, during the jumping maze section,when Song and V talk, there is a lot of foreshadowing via dialogue. This DLC is honestly the best story DLC I've ever played
I saved two lives. SoMi and Alex. Reed was almost literally a relic from the past. A ghost who sold out for a corrupt president.
Soon as So Mi told me there was only one cure available, I immediately sold her out. Couldn't stand to get backstabbed like that, shame on her to fall asleep, cause I had the last laugh.
Until I went through the full ending at Langley, that is. Then I wasn't laughing as much.
What happened
Yeah at first when I played the DLC I was angry with her and was tempted to just betray her at the very end but I said fuck it might as well commit to my decision but shooting Reed was really hard on me because a) Reeds a nice guy but is so fucking obligated to honor and the loyalty to NUSA and b) It’s FUCKING IDRIS ELBA.
Needless to say after me contemplating about my choice after the DLC was over I still felt conflicted for shooting Reed so I loaded the save to see what would happen if I turn Songbird in and in my personal opinion V getting cured is a depressing ending but no matter how you spin it the endings are sad and depressing all around as it should because there rarely is happy ending in cyberpunk stories.
@@Me-ut7vg yea there are no happy endings in night city kinda life real life it’s pretty sad
I didn’t go through all that with Al and rogue to not get revenge. I’m have to kill Adam Smasher and avenge Johnny
I have issues with emotions and expressing them.
Phantom Liberty had me crying internally one of the few media pieces where i was questioning everything.
There is no good or bad ending. We simply live with the consequences.
Possibly the best expansion ive ever experienced.
If you know the other ending and how is Neural Matrix working on V... i'm deadly worried about Songbird in this one, and how is she after using that device bc most of Songbird's body are implants...
That might be a limitation of the NUSA doctors, those in space are said to be the best of the best, it is where most of the rich and powerful live after all.
I wouldn't discount the possibility that the negative effects V endures in the new ending were done to V on purpose, removes her as a threat forever and Myers and the NUSA don't give a whit about anyone but Myers and the NUSA
@@ecrulis6954 Might be the case, but it's more likely that the relic caused the damage to V's body. If you look into it, the relic already took over V's entire body, removing the relic would make the implants useless because it only responds to the relic now. When V was killed, the nano machines inside the relic took over to repair the body, which would make the body have to depend on those nano machines to keep it alive and well.
@@NXDf7 So the surgery was legit and the deal did came through huh. V lost everything and everyone but the future within the NUSA (deskjob with Reed and the likes). Ironic that for all the talk of betrayal and whatever the only one who came through for V in this ending is the gorvernment.
@@schmushschroom3873 Reed mentions that they first tried the neural matrix on Songbird but haven't succeeded, so they decided to use it on V. Even the government wanted to fuck V over.
Definitely happy with saving Songbird and killing Reed. Even if she betrayed V, at least she earns some kind of freedom from the nusa. Reed, even if good natured, just proved to be lapdog of Myers and the Nusa.
She can get her own help then. Not v’s problem some hoe who cant go a day without betraying the people who love her, needs help. She can be a grown up and get it done herself like v does. Shes pathetic
By killing Reed for nothing we are nothing but a lapdog of Songbird finally
@@raikomimura7537we killed him to help somebody who needed it. somebody whose situation mirrors V's very much.
@@soulslasher7890 that person who needed it betrayed v and killed innocents lol
@@joshuamaldonado250 hmm, like v lies to others on their gigs and quests? did you end up helping takemura all the way through despite him saving you?
how many 'innocents' did you kill and harm in your playthrough? reed and alex killed the redhead twins in cold blood.
let's stop pretending that if v was in songbird's shoes, things would have been anymore different.
The one time I actually wished Johnny would shut up, some times silence speaks volumes. To me it looks like Reed let V shoot him lol
Nah - when I did it, I didn't know we were gonna draw and he shot me immediately lol
You are right. So Mi was right too. He died seven years ago. He states it plain and simple: "Too damn late, kid."
@@aarjo8258😂 I swear that man didn’t hesitate
Shooting Reed is the best option over all, but like Johnny said earlier, “They’re both right, that’s what makes this difficult.”
The best ending is the one where you have a long conversation with SilverHand, where you philosophize about death and the afterlife.
It hurt so much betraying Songbird for me. I just betrayed her because I wanted to see the new ending.
“The hardest choices require the strongest wills”
Ultimately I choose Songbird over Reed. What did it for me is that Reed doesn't even stick to his own ideals yet claimed that is what he lives by. The way he reacted (or lack thereof) to Myers orders on killing Song just made me hate him.
Songbird doesn't have a clean slate at all, but she's basically backed herself into a similar corner that V has. That alone is enough to swing V's opinion heavily in Songbird's favor. No way in hell I'd let someone go through the same shit as V especially if I have the power to change that fate. Even with Song backstabbing me, I feel like V would've done the same given the same cards as Songbird.
I would've shot Sol with a pistol with non-lethal mod but somehow he still bled. I wouldn't shoot him in the head but shoot his leg, arm or non-critical areas and maybe he'll lands in a hospital recovering and lives. Songbird would be happy on the moon being free. That's how I would like to imagine how it should have ended.
PS: I would like for V to send flowers to Sol in a hospital and she'll apologize to him about shooting him with no conflicts. Still, she won't get the cure.
I agree that shooting him fells bad since if he lives he becomes a good friend, but even with lethal shots he almost brings his gun up in time to fire back. anything less than lethal and you die.
@@jamescoles2067 In my game I tried to shoot him and got bug message "Action blocked" and he shot me so after checkpoint I spammed mouse button and accidentally double tapped him.
I gotta say, sending So Mi to the Moon is the best possible ending for thematic reasons. Even everything Reed said about consequences came true, but just not in the way he would have wanted.
Myers couldn't fathom anything less than total control over anything she deemed as valuable.
Because of her iron grip, she lost her most loyal agents, and her most powerful weapon.
Alex always believed her next mission would be her last.
But even in Monte Carlo, she's still bound to her FIA overlords.
Reed chose duty, orders, and his nation before himself and his friends, but he never really had a choice.
He could never see what he was truly fight for, what he really wanted, and it killed him.
Songbird finally gets the opportunity to leave her cage, spread her wings, and fly free.
But now she carries the weight that came with the life she sacrificed so much to keep.
You had to choose to give up your shot at a cure that doesn't have an Arasaka Logo slapped on it somewhere, for someone who never had any intentions on actually saving you.
But you got to *choose* . No "Greater Good", No Duty, No Loyalty. You fought for a choice. You fought for *_You_* .
That's the one thing anyone can really strive for in a world that sees you as a tool.
I shot reed and I cried for the first to a piece of media😔
okay rdr2
I found male V saying "Fuck, fuck, fuck," after shooting Reed to be a bit more impactful than the female version.
When playing the DLC I knew that V wouldn't be cured because the DLC takes place in the middle of the story. Wasnt too shocked when Song betrayed V, its unfortunately her nature. She just wanted to be free and so I killed Reed and sent her to the moon. Plus I don't think the dose would've lasted long anyways, the relic is too unpredictable. But then again, I guess we will never know. Once again CDPR writes another masterpiece. Can't wait for future games from them.
Songbird: "I betrayed you V sorry"
3 minutes later when you give her to Reed:
Songbird: "promise though"
me: f*ck off LOL
Such an incredibly tough set of choices in this beautiful game. Holy hell.
I sided with Reed and went down his path initially, and overall I think it is much more rewarding (in terms of items, gameplay, and the NUSA-surgeon ending).
I'd always go for fucking songbird over if it means saving myself. Realistically.
Choosing to give up Songbird gets V his cure, but it puts him in a Coma and costs him damn near every friend he has. Cost me Panam too.
Not all choices here but giving up Song was the ending that left the highest amount of secondary characters with an "ok" ending and no deaths, so worth it. But I'll favor the ones that arent here, where you dont give her up nor kill Reeds.
That's by far the best ending of this DLC if you forget about Alex.
That’s the thing man, I can’t forget about Alex 😭 I consider her a choom just like Song and Reed, I can’t just let her die like that
How and what ending did you get?
Johnny could have really used V back then, things would have been different with her around. She is such a good influence on him cause I think that V changed Johnny more than he did her.
Bro I swear Reed said and did two things that were one was kinda subtle the second was outright a “remember who’s in charge” by this point I felt so unsure if I was making a good decision went from what’s in it for me to ok these guys are cool but so mi is legit a puppy from a bad home with a bad attitude I kept pausing here fr deciding on wether or not I should negotiate and it went on for like twenty minutes. Best game I’ve played ever I’ll rent is the way I remember Minecraft or black ops 1 and 2 serious memories to be made
I knew that So-Mi was bullshitting from the start and I knew that she was just a big a psychopath as anyone in NC but I still chose to save her from Reed purely because Reed and Alex killed Aurore
Damn that background score....so fricking awesome
Songbird betrays everyone: “Now that’s determination”
V betrays Songbird: “Enjoy your silver Judas *spits on V’s shoes”
For real, was not vibing with Johnny this scene
I think she'd want you to give her up in the end . The whole train ride she was crying about Reed and how she'd betray everyone . I think finding out she has to kill you and him to make it out might be too much .
You actually get a different variation of the ending where you shoot reed if you shoot him in the head where he doesn’t say anything and just drops
Anyone know what the OST of this is? It’s a slower version of Gate K9 but I don’t know if it has a specific name.
Also Cherami Leigh is a God-Tier actress!
Test of Loyalty or Never Looking Back one of those two
but i think its the second one
I chose to betray and shoot Reed. I made my decision not to trust him after the scene where he and Alex killed the two netrunners. I get why they did it, but the fact that they didn't tell me prior made me realize I should not trust them, and after they used me, would do the same to me. So there was no question in my mind that I had to kill him or else.
I picked the option where I tried to plea with him damn shame tho cdpr hurt me
on my 2nd playthrough i noticed so-mi always dodging questions and lying, she's a manipulator and will always be one. I just couldn't shoot reed
Best outcome in my opinion is to save So Mi, give her an escape and stick to the best ending, which I believe to be leaving NC with Panam, Judy and the Nomads. Make Night City your bitch and then ride off into the sunset. Solomon was just a tool and he had it coming. A true puppet.
Nah So Mi was playing you and straight up uses you. I say best ending is side with Reed and then kill Songbird. Then don't fear the reaper to become a true legend.
This is just a terrible take. Reed is no saint sure but at least he is true to his word. Songbird actively fucks over anyone she can just so she can live. She literally tells V that she is wants to blow up a stadium full of innocent people as a distraction and tells V "their deaths are so that we can live" (which of course as we know she just means herself).
Oh yeah and the fact that she waits until the last possible minute to tell you that there was only one cure all along and its reserved for herself only? Pretty much telling you "yeah you helped me thanks I guess have fun being an enemy of the NUSA and FIA while im in space getting the cure I promised you." The game tried to paint her as a mirror to V but she's really just V if they were selfish. She doesn't deserve a happy end.
@@asheru8271exactly, reed’s flawed but he cares about his partners and stays true to his word. Everything Songbird promised V was a lie. When I decided to side with Reed initially and she killed Alex and all those people at the stadium I lost any respect I had for her.
@@oxymrn7038 I think our V would've done the same. My V would've, s'why she sympathised. So Mi is not a bad person, just a jaded woman trapped in a corner with one way out.
I wanted to save Songbird untill Reed stood right in front of me. Even after the betrayal I wasn't going to call Reed and would let her be free even if it left some sour taste in my mouth. But I couldn't bring myself to kill Reed.
This was NOT handled well. I literally quick hack everyone with overheat and they are still alive but this one time I can't and just whip out a gun. It was one of the let downs albiet only one of very few in this amazing DLC.
Thankfully I sided with Idris because how in the hell is going to not side with Idris Elba? Also, Songbird was a narcissistic, manipulative moron who didn't care how many people died as long as she survived. Absolutely no qualms about ending her life and denying Meyers her trophy.
so what happens to Alex if you give give songbird to reed (if you chose to betray reed at the kurt hansen base)
What happens on the credits when you give songbird to Reed? Or he ain't talk to you there?
All of you are bamboozled by saving Songbird, sheesh brainwashed
I’m brainwashed for having empathy?
@@SteelSpursby killing Reed and knowingly let the civilians in the stadium die?
@@KhoaLe-uc2ny Reed gave us no choice and the civilians weren’t our problem.
@@SteelSpursyou always have a choice
@@killmonger5097 Don’t do that. I wanted to save Songbird, he wouldn’t let me.
Well that was an emotional rollercoaster
I think it is incedible with what kinda detail they worked, you shoot him in the chest and he puts his hand on the wound. I shoot him in the head and he just fell dead. Sry reed had to do it...
did anyone tried to shoot the gun? instead of reed
it kills Reed
damn its dramatic as hell if you soot him in the chest he dropped instantly for me cuz i shot him in the head
I wish I could have just crippled the guy, I really liked his character, and though his loyalties where screwed in this, he was still a good guy… CDproject red made this game almost completely depressing and their lack of faith in humanity shows like a pair of sullied britches when these scenes are playing. Its as if the studios can’t believe in hope and good, that they try to punish you if you try to be upstanding, its one of my very few gripes about this great game.
You expect miracles to happen every time like in movies ? The game may not be realistic but the choices and the characters are very much real my friend and there's no miracles and good hope happening all around the world if it was we wouldn't be in the state we're in now ....Hope is a dream, Facts and reality makes progress
If songbird was a guy nobody would be siding with her shm
Reed also dies differntly like you see in the video and if you shoot him in the head i falls over immediately onto his back
Wuuuut you can kill him?? What ta he kills me instantly when I try to shoot him lol
Bro that has to be a blade runner reference when you shoot reed
I wonder why he says to late after you shoot him
you are so awesome man
BabyZone❤❤❤
Also kinda a throwback to balderunner’s ending
sorry reed im a gun collection
V shoot first!
Actually there should be another option to help songbird and save reed but it was cut from the final game. Well the entire ending was cut... it was much better and happier in the leaked version
I’m kinda glad they cut it. It makes the decision feel so much more impactful than yay happy ending for everyone
@@C1umsyJester it lacks character development now, everyone is shallow including reed and so mi. There was much more about everything, from the fact that so mi saved reed life to arasaka taking a part in all of this.
@@Micholex In which way does the story not show character development. Certain characters in any show have core fundamentals they do not shift from, but you see how small parts about their characters change, which you do see in the story
@@C1umsyJester Reed's backstory is incomplete, songbird is shown in the game now as a "traitor" of Reed, even tho it was Myers all along and So mi actually saved Reed by calling in a Trauma team, it opens a new dialogues that help us change Reed point of view and join our cause, it also shows that songbird has much more deeper backstorry than we think.
She betrays V as well in current version of the game by finally revealing that it's impossible to save them both, in older leaks V was able to receive help from songbird's chip by choosing arasaka ending and then making a small little twist before the operation on the space clinic. Overall we got much worse version of the expansion ending and there was a lot of cut contet here as well so that's why i am a bit dissapointed.
@@Micholex The thing is there is no convincing Reed to let her go. Myer's said it at the beginning he is a man of true principle. He was betrayed by the NUS yet still answers when called on. He cannot break his princables no matter what; he even aknowleges this is his flaw an he has come to terms with it. Songbird betrayed the NUS and she has to accept the consequences, it kills Reed to do so but he follow through because he cannot break his prinables. Tbh there is no ending where reed would let her go to the moon. This isnt about her betraying him he never felt that way, Reed cannot turn on his principles as they are the only thing he has to cope with all the damage he has done. Neither of them are villains they are both victims caught in someone else's game
I DON'T REMEMBER THIS ENDING HOW DID YOU GET IT.
You need to help Songbird escape Hansen's base instead of trying to betray her.
How do i get to this point ?
In Hansen's lab, choose to side with Songbird.
I always gave Songbird to reed the amount of times she betrayed her friends and lied to V just got to be I liked the idea of giving her a false escape only to trap her again she deserved it
I prefer shooting reed. He didn't really care for her. In the game just as in real life. You see what actually happened is that he was jelous of her power, and wanted her contained. The lady - V - who was saving her could tell he was bad for her; just after she put her down, as she was standing back up, she drew her gun and shot him in the chest. Then carried So Mi, to the plane; then they left together.
I killed Reed, headshot. After using up all the dialogue. I tried it both ways and this is one that felt right. So Mi was used and abused by Myers, as was Reed, and sending her back to that just felt wrong. The real Reed died in 2070, as was alluded to by Alex, and the one that came back was a hollow shell who couldn't find another purpose. Putting him to rest didn't feel wrong to me in exchange for So Mi. Also Johnny very much prefers you to not be a "sell out". So much fun to play in the spaceport, great music and ambiance. Amazing expansion.
Seems like you mess the timestamp in another video.
Hand over Songbird is just like make a Pact with a another Devil
Sure she's live
But she will live under Myers gets used to scratch the blackwall for her own Benefit
That's why when you betray her
She will ask to ended her
Makes her live just throw her to the fate worse than death
Yeah but the problem is that if you were to kill her then most likely there would be no deal for V to take from reed so V would also die
@@ZorenGamer2that’s why I sayin let’s be realistic I’m getting that cute she threw me under the bus first 🤷🏾♂️
Who cares what happens. As long as the cure is mine.
@@ZorenGamer2 its okay tho
Since Im willing give my body to Johnny
V become one with RogueAI behind the Blackwall
The cure is busted anyway
Making V life more miserable
I still think that Songbird was supposed to be Lucy from anime so if the song mi was lucy I bet most of people would shoot Reed.
U would have to tweak the story a lot to have lucy in songbird's situation including the ending of the anime
"thought about how you're going to spend your thirty pieces of silver?"
I THINK that's a Witcher 3 reference to selling Ciri to Nilfgaard
Bible reference choom, when Judas sold Jesus.
@@Antiprincipl3 eh fair enough, never cared much for religion
@@NiskaMagnusson ah I see, fair enough.
This is a dumb question: Have you tried shooting Reed in the legs? xD
🤔
If you shoot him in the legs, it automatically registers as the bullet hitting the chest.
Went for the head by reflex lol
No Alex Mason situation. Ok ;p@@aarjo8258
did songbird survive on the moon?
You get a gift from her after she gets there so most likely
@@pretzelboi64 yea already saw it, but thx