olden days where ancilot was a thing (ancile energy shield with tarans), a magnum rhino can literally just destroy one of the lancelot's front phyical shield. once that's done, the rhino drops the shields and mag dumps the lancelot with tarans. during this skirmish, the rhino shield can survive a full mag of tarans
@@wrleonardo oh man yesss. Dude was hella fast when it used its ability (in old wwr standards). The energy shield it had was only strong enough just so stray physical shots wouldn't deplete its hp, long enough for carnage to be in knifefight range of its target. And high chance that target is toast no matter how high its hp was at knifefight range. I even bought the tiger skin for carnage, cause I literally played like a predator. Just lurking behind the scenes, and at the moment they least expect, jumps out of hiding and rushes in. But at the same time it can't survive out in the open, so, like a tiger, needs tall grass to avoid being seen and destroyed.
@@MinhQuangNguyen-og4mz Mmh, well I see the Shell only good as a counter to energy weapons. Curies are so popular nowadays, and their turrets deal kinetic damage, destroying the shields very fast.
I really wish people would talk about hellburner more, and as a hellburner user i agree with the rank and reason, it needs the light to be a medium but its a really good beacon runner and damage dealer.
@@wrleonardo that’s the thing, you should lvl hell burner up, and give it an ecu and ancile, Max all that and you have yourself the ultimate enemy line breaker, just use the ability for damage will keeping yourself alive with the ancile+ecu!!!
I think (before you continue, yes. There's some bias as I play Typhon) Typhon deserves either Low B or High C, maybe even mid B. I use him all the time and boy, is he good. His ability shuts down opponents from almost everything (besides shooting). His Aegis shield also aids him in disposing of enemies quickly. He excels when he's paired with full auto weapons for faster dps. (I use Punisher-T, the base weapon, and he is still good.) You can almost win every 1v1 with him as he can go toe-to-toe with any bot (not titans though) with this combo: Blackout 2.0 Go all in This works as you won't need to worry much about your health because of your Aegis shield and full auto weapon. The faster you kill them, the less damage you recieve. Pair him up with a good pilot and you got yourself a powerhouse. That's just my opinion though.
You proven to be mistaken just the moment you put the invader in D class, 750k durability and 100% suppression is no joke, you can't kill it when the amps are charged up + it can easily destroy most of that other upper class bots
It's not 100% suppression, nothing has that. 750k is a lot but Invader has no defense points, unlike the Fenrir who can easily, even way before mk3 reach 900k effective hp even without counting in the healing, overall invader is decent but it lacks firepower
Man my favourites where mars,angler and seraph at that time they were at peak but now them i still miss that meta where seraph could kill like 5 people with only like 15 sec 😢😢
Yeah, I might want to make a tier list of titans. It's going to be much faster, so it won't take two weeks to make like this one did 😅 I'll actually make a poll rq
Not gonna Erebus is more like artillery rather then sniper 3 heavy weapons and a rocket launcher that shoots missiles that gives emp, root, suppression and blackout is like a support when your team is in a tough fight And can be useful when a enemy os coming towards You and hit em a Homing Blackout and then there left vulnerable when you shoot from afar
Yes but no. If anything it sabotages your teammates. Picture this: a teammate Typhon is fighting an enemy leech. They haven't seen eachother yet. Now you emp the leech thinking you're helpful. Well then the effect wears out, and when the typhon attacks the leech, the leech gets to use its ability since typhon can't blackout him because he has immunity for it. In that case if you wouldn't have fired off the rocket, the typhon would've been able to blackout the leech and destroy it before it can use its ability.
Very Old news, but I’ll never forgive them for what they’ve done to angler. That was the first bot that I dumped money into immediately after buying it, and it’s been nerfed to hell. One day I just logged in loaded up a game and wondered: why is he running so slow when the ability is active, then I went to RUclips and saw the news 💀
I’ve been playing Fenir. I don’t get all the hype. It is easily countered by pretty much everything, has a very weak shield that most pilots remove anyway, the speed boost is almost unnoticeable, and overall, it is just bad. I have been playing the game for over 2 years, I know what I am doing. I would slap Fenir into D tier. Also, Shenlou is leagues ahead of Scorpion. Shenlou can do three times quickly what Scorpion can only do once. The only added bonus Scorpion has over Shenlou is its built in weapon that hardly does anything anyway. And then, Ratana, another terrible fan favorite. Its main ability is a two charge phase shift that can literally be applied to EVERY SINGLE ROBOT IN THE GAME, so there is no additional tactical use for Ravana. The entire S tier burned the kitchen down with your cooking.
First things first, did you read the criteria? I see you skipped that part and came here crying that the tier list isn't about the strongest bots, and that's because OF COURSE IT'S NOT! Every new robot would be an instant S tier in performance, period. That would be boring, huh? This tier list is about robot value. New bots are strong but they WILL be nerfed, old but gold bots like ravana or scorpion won't. Also yes Fenrir is easy to counter with subduers and what not, but I made this tier list like half a year ago where they didn't exist.
Seeing this, most of what it is is understandable, but I gotta be honest, Ochokochi doesnt deserve higher than a C because its often used unfairly. And you said it, its 'overpowered.' I also use most of the poorly ranked robots quite commonly and have gotten some great moments with them, in this case being Hover and Invader. But i like the opinions on all of them! Thanks for this.
You really seem to understand my point here which I absolutely do respect! I've gotten hundreds of comments about like "Shenlou should've been S because it's so powerful, same as ocho and curie"
I think the Typhon deserves an A tier,it has a really good fire power ,a decent aegis shield and it can emp,lockdown and supress enemies with a decent cooldown time,with the legendary pilot it gets a 25% damage boost for 5 seconds after the ability,wich makes it a very strong robot
@@wrleonardoIt is in a good level then the health is decent,my mk2 lvl 1 typhon as more than 200k durability,lasting a decent amount of time in the battlefield
Hawk was the coolest thing on release and yeah i can agree 100% the damage is so insignificant i find myself dying with it quickly Ao jun as well is fun but weak damage you just die so fast in games now war robots was in its prime in id say 2018-2021 but i still play it its still fun when people arent trying to have an absolutely unkillable robot
Personally I'd rate scorpion B tier. While yes, it can do great surprise attacks especially with witheout drone, it's also very vulnerable and it's getting harder for scorpion to keep up with doing enough dmg without meta weapons because avg hp level's are getting higher. It's very tricky robot heavily dependant on equipped weapons, whereas tyohon for example, can make good use of basically any weapon since it's very versatile
That is true, and because of power-creep, new stronger weapons are coming all the time. Like the Leiming and the other one idk the name, would be perfect for scorpion.
Only robot that can counter scorpion is prob lynx due to its stealth and Execution ability it also brings meta weapons in my opinion I think good weapons like stakes are pretty good on it ❤
@@Codmcontent-b9z you can counter scorpion's attack no matter the robot you use. You could attack back in time even in cossack or destrier. If you survive or not is matter of hp you have left and if your robot is capable of defending itself instead of tanking dmg (form of defence being aegis 2.0, regenerative abilities etc)
Good tierlist man, appreciate it a lot. I love how the rank B for tier 4 robots just isnt there untill the end. My favourit robot is fafnir, i personally think that he is way stronger than fenrir, oh and demeter is f*cking hard to play but fun 👍
Appreciate the efforts! I really like when ppl play non-meta bots just for fun, it brings me hope! A tip for demeter: spawn late and protect titans with it
I won't bother with every single robot on the list but BRUH! You did a lot of them dirty. After the recent updates to reflect shield harpy has become a very dangerous target. If you fire at it while airborne you have a good chance of death by reflect shield. The angler has definitely stood the test of time and still has the power to takedown weaker titans thanks to its blinding skill. The lynx is the work horse of the game. They may be easier to kill now but they can still take a lot of hit and dish out a lot of close combat fatalities. Have you even met a curie on the battle field? I did! If armed with a subduer not even the titans can handle it. I once went head to head with one in my shell (the one you ranked F) and in the 2 minute long skirmish it kept healing 2/3 of its durability instantly every time. In the end I only managed to kill it because of an orbital strike I hit it with and because it did not have subduers. I have also seen curie get attacked by 2 rooks, 1 minos, 1 aether and my kid.... AT THE SAME TIME. it survived direct fire for a minute straight. How on earth do you figure that monster is anything less then S tier? Finally the shenlou is literally a cheat robot compared to a scorpion. While scorpion can only teleport once and it appears so close to the target that the target can notice it, shenlou literally appears on a camera blind spot by design so you won't even realize it is there until you hear the familiar cracking sound of a leiming frying your durability instantly, but then it just teleport to the next target while it's skill is still active. It can take down up to 3 targets per skill use when equipped with leiming weapons and titans are not safe from devastating damage from those weapons either. At this point scorpion has been sidelined not by merging but by this cheat bot pixonic created with improved assassination ability. If anything scorpion is B tier because it is easier to spot when teleporting which makes it easily targeted and dispatched due to low health. Shenlou is S tier not because it is not killable but because pixonic made it physically impossible to counter with the existing controller design of WR. The robot appears in a players blind spot on camera (slightly out of range off camera) it can teleport longer distances then scorpion and it can be made very durable thanks to leiming weapons that can instakill without attack boosts.
First off, what a damn paragraph, I appreciate the effort! Secondly the few bots you mentioned aren't relevant in Champions League. Thirdly, the tier list was made to show a robot's value, not absolute power. Every new bot is powerful so it'd be a boring tier list. Fourthly Shenlou lost points because it's difficult to get and it's too powerful, meaning it likely gets nerfed soon, bringing it lower than scorpion, and by the time you've already maxed out your scorpion when Shenlou gets nerfed to the ground. Fiftly you won't get killed by Harpy's reflector if you aren't low hp already, and at that point the harpy is focusing you anyways. Sixthly the angler is absolute dogshit because it's so slow even titans can outrun it. Many use the anti-jamming support to counter the blind effect, and even if you do get blinded the angler usually won't have enough firepower to kill you so you can just wait for the blind to go and then get him. If you're dying to anglers and harpies, then you have a massive skill issue.
@@wrleonardo ok if you are taking long term value into account then you still scored lynx very low. I am in master 1 league so I play champion league players more then I want to (champion league has way too many cheaters). And guess what I deal with all the robots I mentioned on a daily bases. You would be surprised how often I encounter an angler in the champion league players hanger compared to a fenrir. And I do not agree with your assessment that angler is sh*t because it's ability can change the tide of a battle when attacking in a group. It is a very tenacious robot lasting a long time and can only be dealt by ranged attacks but anyone close to it is already target practice for the enemy. And then you talk about harpy as only killing players low on health I can't agree with that either because I tested that with my kid titan and my crisis. Harpy were never as strong as they are now due to reflect shield update. Before the update it barely scratched the paint on my crisis. But now when I attacked an airborne harpy at full durability with 4 heavy ranged weapons and it barely took more then a third in damage but my crisis was toast due to reflection damage. The fully upgraded kid fared no better. I shot the airborne harpy with a veyron and I lost a third of my durability with very little damage to the harpy. Unless they nerf reflect shields for all robots again harpy is sitting at a higher tier. I am not so weak as to be called out on it buddy. Even though I don't have a hanger full of p2w monsters I still managed to get to master 1 league and already half way to champion. I agree with some of your list but not all of it because I have been playing against champion league everyday. While champion league players are more often playing master league and expert league players compared to their own league.
Oh so you aren't champion yet? Well that explains everything, since champion league has like 20 levels, and the closer to champion 1 we get, the stronger the opponents get. So facing a champion league player in master means he's probably champion 18-19. I want to 1v1 your angler if you think it's really that strong (dm me on discord: loikkaleo) and let's schedule the meeting. The harpy reflector does send back damage but everyone has their own defense systems that reduce the damage dealt by reflector. So in total they end up dealing more damage to the harpy than to themselves. Also ever heard of reaper? They're everywhere in champs
@@wrleonardo first thing: you would have to lend me an angler before the fight. I have only been on the receiving end of those annoying robots. My hanger also lacks any robots with reflect shield. I have been in this game for a little more then 6 month f2p. Scorpion was my first tier 4 robot so my hanger is built for support and assassinate. I only have a lynx to battle the heavily armored robots and I think lynx has done a great job for me through the masters league.
Yea those robots seriously are easy to outplay, I've played this game for years upon years. Not only that but I've learnt some tricks to outplay others from Counter-Strike 2 where all players can have the exact same equipment, so the only thing that matters is skill. In war robots, skill doesn't really even matter anymore, and there isn't anyone who's videos you can watch and be mind blown by their skill. Manni is skilled, but War Robots is not a game where you could show off with your skills. So, patience, brother ✌️
I think it's somewhat what I also think specially on the tier 3 and tier 4 robots. Good thing I have the Ravanna and Scorpion to troll meta bots sometimes haha
@@wrleonardo Btw other channel with much larger audience did almost the exact same thing you did but less explanatory and all mixed up. I linked your content there since yours was the first time I saw a ranking with that table etc. I respect the other channel much, and I hope they recognize your originality and maybe do a commentary on yours rewarding the content you did and mentioning yours.
@@wrleonardoMy first comment with the link to this channel was deleted inmediately... I recreated the post without the link but mentioning the creation 3-4 days before. I hope he does it right by you.
Thanks! You should make one too, you can share your opinion. If you're just planning now, prepare for a lot of work. 84 robots took me 2 weeks to process
I personally love using the Mace and Hammer, since they offer great dpm, and the Blastcharge ignores defense, which is highly effective against tanks. So generally any good dpm weapon, and depending on your budget it could be punisher thunder, taran redeemer, hazard decay, mace hammer, shatter brisant, or even havoc devastator works.
@@JasonLynn-dm9ej I have one as well and I'd say it's one of the most valuable general use bots. Many weapons work well with it, and it's good supporter.
i put mercury in A. i'm biased, ran it since 2018 and still have it in champs. oh my god is it fun to use if you have an ultimate glory and paralysis drone.
It's ok, I thought I spoke really fast so I decided to put the subtitles in just in case. This is by far my most successful video! Thanks for subbing 💙
Generally, what playstyle suits you the best. I recommend picking one from the following: Fenrir, Ravana, Scorpion, Skyros, Khepri. All of them are viable options to play with. I recommend trying them all out in the next test server session, since you can try them for free.
Yes, but when you consider the league where you use it, with destrier your only option is cossack, but when gepard becomes an option, the Gl. Patton just comes past the gepard in terms of firepower and durability.
I don't know man my nightingale has been smashing everyone in masters beacons... especially now with the legendary pilot.. I think at least a B with legendary pilot, 50% is a HUGE improvement of the built in weapons rate of fire... It's meant to be played support and max DPS when it lands i like sonic weapons and a Showdown drone on mine... u shud try it. .
Yea but keep in mind the biw is weak and it's not meant to deal damage. In air it's helpless since it can't use the weapons, and because many use quantum radar, it gets shot down easily. The firepower isn't anything mind-blowing, it's the same as scorpion. But nightingale is kind of slow when walking so it can't really utilise the weapons too well. Also nowadays everyone has their own ways of repairing, so nightingale isn't really needed to keep someone in game.
My opinion behemoth is as it can fit any role which barely any robots can do because they can fit the support it can fit brawler and it can fit sniper so it is an S tier
Appreciate your opinion but behemoth doesn't belong anywhere near brawling range. It's too slow and defenseless to be a brawler. Sniper is only good option. S tier bots are good at anything, including running beacons. Behemoth could never
You have to put Wayland higher. You can’t forget about the intense resistance it has while it’s in its ability. That’s what makes it somewhat useable. And nightingale. Hear me out ok.its very long stealth and fast movement can make it flee combat when needed and hide better. It deserves higher
I appreciate your perspective here! In my opinion, the Weyland's resistance isn't very strong, and the nightingale yeah it can work but it also sucks how you can't shoot while falling down.
@@randomchannel1682 Your opinion really is based off of truths. However, the nightingale is kinda unagile and fragile, and all it takes is quantum radar. He cannot fight back
@@wrleonardo true. But atleast put the shell higher. That one kinda hurt too see go into f 😭 it’s still usable and you can knock people off beacons. Especially when they jump at you and you use the ability to fling them away. And it has ok durability and decent firepower. And its shields are great since everyone uses stake spike and needle. And when upgraded and with the kestrel drone it can be really fast
Yeah, I know it can work if you really dedicate that much effort for it, however if you'd dedicate the effort for for example, Ravana, you'd get much better results. Yes, you can knock people off of beacons, but they'll just walk right back. Ocho is for keeping them off. The shields are good but only for a short time, and flamethrowers make short work out of all shields.
I agree with the weak force field thing. Same with Nether’s. They nerfed Nether’s only source of protection into the dirt. Now if any sniper or a Dagon locks onto it, it is as good as dead.
ain't no way. Boa is one of the best robots in the game. it's like 2nd highest hp under leo, and was fast, and has one of the fastest turn rates. As a boa player, you don't stand in place, you kite around the target, outrunning the target's turn speed. Weapons today are all targetting pixelpoint accuracy now so turn speeds don't matter. wtf Natasha was one of the worst bots back then lol. It was a placeholder to get enough gold to buy fury for the sniper role. natasha had shit hp in knifefights. edit: I quit the game when Ravana came out, and Tanky shotgun phantoms was ruling the matches. I thought to myself, If I bought Ravana, I would for sure suffer power creep again on the next Robot release. My favorite bots were Mender, Fenrir, Loki,Traditionalist Falcon,Bulwark, and Leech. Had I known that 2 out of the robots I liked plus Ravana would remain relevant today, I would've maybe stuck around. But I bet pilots, drones and whatnot also plays a part to why they are still great.
I also remember considering to quit the game when Ravana came, it was so stupid back then. There was literally nothing we could do to them, since they just had infinite phase shifts.
True. It really depends on meta season. Also the ability cooldown is long and lt sucks how you can accidentally teleport on the wrong ally and also there's a little delay before teleporting during which the ally might get killed
I actually have I think all S-tier robots a video made of, but most a tier bots are the current meta bots and that's why I will never get those. Not gonna spend a dime on this game.
nice tier list however i think demeter should be A or S imo, it has ok durability, ok fire power, and is the only surviving support healing robot, with a absorber shield, it can save titans, all robots in a matter of time, which is something mender cannot do.
True, but because the only counter to Dagon is shieldbreaker, many have that module and it works for Demeter too. Also his ability cooldown is quite long, and he cannot teleport back.
I feel like this tier list is more specified for tdm. Scorpion is b tier at max, due to it being fragile, low firepower, and generally cant capture or hold a lot of beacons. u mentioned it urself, saying shenlou is a better version of scorpion, and thats true. Shenlou completely outclasses it, but u decided to put it under scorpion which makes 0 sense to me. Ochokochi is far better than scorpion and on the same level as ravana, with the same firepower but an insane amount of hp and agility, making it great for capturing beacons and holding beacons, which is crucial in beacon rush or domination. in tdm i can see how scorpion outclasses these bots, however if this was a tdm based tier list, fenrir should not be that high. from what ive heard, curie is pretty much meta atm but i dont have a lot to say about this. however i feel it should be at s mainly from how frequent i see it being problems. calling dagon "almost balanced" is an understatement. with the right build you could probably 5 shot a titan ophion is meta rn, arguably the best bot in the game atm. putting this in c tier, the same tier as harpy and hades is crazy
And as you probably saw, I clearly mentioned in the very beginning that balance has an effect in the rating. So overpowered robots will be nerfed in the future, making them less valuable over time.
I stopped watching watching when you’ve put Harpy at C! That is one of the most annoying yet one of the best support robots in the game to this day man! You have shield breaker incorporated from the Pilot and you can equip quantum radar and that’s a really deadly combination that not many robots can have equipped on!
@@wrleonardo you can outsmart Crisis/Reapers, and that’s one of the reasons I’ve mentioned quantum radar, I did that many times, you wait for them to shoot at someone else and empty their clip and boom, you use your ability and they’re gone, other times don’t so yeah, fair enough! I was a bit dramatic however ahah, but anyway, I think Harpy should be ranked a little higher still! Regardless, props to you for making this type of “sensitive” content as many people have certain robots to their heart and depending on were you place them it will trigger a certain reaction, like mine in this case lol! Again, props to you and I will subscribe to you if that helps with your goal, whatever that may be! Have a good one! 🙂
Thanks for the kind words! I really tried to make the ranking as objective as possible, and I have played the harpy a lot. I have indeed countered a few crisis' with that, but only when they shoot first some other target. If they don't, well I can't do much from 700m away and reaper bullets on the way. I do still like the robot a lot, and he's in active use on both of my accounts.
Hey guys i just want to get some tips i have 3 other ochokochin in my inventory and my hanggar for this time is khepri ochokochi mk2,lynx,dagon and lynk again i also have crisis in my inventory and the things i want to ask you guys is is there any robot or something i need to change with my hanggar
I really disagree with Orochi I have an orochi viper setup and even with the nerf it’s amazing it has decent health it’s fast and that dot effect plus the dot on the vipers helps bring kills extremely quick and easy
I Think blitz deserves at least a D. I think most t4s in general (COUGH COUGH EXCEPT JAEGER COUGH COUGH) are decent. I still see a few extremely high level player, like top of champion league occasionally running a blitz. I might be biased here, seeing as blitz is my favorite robot, but i still dont believe its THAT flimsy. i can survive for a long time in-battle with it.
I was about to say great tierlist exept the scorpion cuz its clearly a D tier and then u f* up ur tierlist saying scorpion and fenrir are better than ocho curie and shenlou also the ophion was killed but its still a strong robot (after 9.8 it'll sucks) but appart from the T4 tierlist its a decent tierlist u made
If you didn't skip the beginning, I literally said "The robot's balance has an effect in the ranking" meaning if the balance is screwed up, like with ocho the case is, it's not good. And what comes to Ophion, well it's just the dampers that make it strong, not the robot itself being really good, because after the dampers get fully killed, nobody will use the Ophion anymore because not even the built-in weapon deals a lot of damage. My most viral video is exactly about the scorpion countering all meta bots, including ophions and ochos, and like I said, there's no better counter than attacking when the enemy has just used their ability.
It's not, angler is easily countered by all of the tier S bots. Ravana uses his ability to avoid blind, Fenrir runs away, Scorpion teleports back. Angler has been nerfed so much, that you need all the speed skills and Kestrel to be quick enough to actually hunt enemies. It's just bad after all the nerfs.
@@MrBananas Fenrir isn't very slow, and it can get closer to 1m effective hp, and Ravana can phase shift to counter angler, and scorpion can teleport back. Anglers are weak anyways. They're slow asf and ability damage is crap as well as the whole bot
bro whats that one big yellow robot that has (ithink a tempest or a gray minigun) behind his back has alot of hp can switch weapons from his back? I keep dying to it and i cant recognize it in this video sorry
Do you remember if it flies? Since Fafnir would match your description, since it has four medium weapons, and its ability disables two of them, activates a purple shield, activates an energy weapon, and starts flying.
Thanks for the good question! Fujin and Raijin aren't really good long term, but if you really want to use them, tarans for fujin and zeus for raijin are good options. For Fenrir, Tarans and Redeemer work wonders even in higher leagues, so that's my ultimate recommendation. For ophion you'd want some midrange sharpshooting weapons, my idea is either tarans again (tarans are the best friend for f2p) ot punisher t's. Punishers are tier 1 weapons, so you should take advantage of that and upgrade those to mk2. It's really cheap do do so.
I do, since we all know shenlou will get a nerf and be then worse than scorpion. Also scorpion can teleport back at any given moment, shenlou has to wait 30 s
Scorpion is not s, main B or last A and kepri is C, Ravana is A Lynx should be A and shell at least B bcs during lynx meta shell was the best counter by far and a must in meta squads
Appreciate your perspective! My thoughts were with the scorpion, that he's the counter to meta no matter the season. Ravana can still outwait abilities, and basically do the same as scorpion. Khepri is kinda something between b and c, but c was so full already that I decided to balance things a bit. Lynx lacks lots of hp, and the forcefield is honestly weak. Shell is just sorry to say but straight up trash. After the shields are gone, it's a free kill, it's not fast without tons of speed skills and all, the ability isn't too damaging, firepower is weak, and the lynx meta is dead.
Tier 1 is great i agree with it but the s tier on it i think A tier Tier 2 great nothing wrong with it Tier 3 some robots i think should be higher or lower but great but Tier 4 everything is messed up i dont agree with it but i like the video tho
Did you read literally the first slide where I explained the ranking criteria? Don't worry, you aren't the first one to say about this. TL; DR: being overpowered means they will get nefed eventually, so not good long term. That's why it reduces points. Also new meta stuff are practically impossible to get f2p, so it also reduces points. It'd be taken for granted that all new stuff are the strongest in raw performance, and that'd make a boring list.
Man this list is rough, mostly looking at the T4 bot list. How is curie not in S tier when you can literally run it with no weapons and kill titans? And ophion in C tier, whattt? Is this post test server nerf? Even then I think its too low...
As I said (which quite few including you missed) in the beginning of the video, "Balance has an effect in the rating". We know Curie is kind of bugged, and the bugs just make him much stronger than he should be. So, overpowered will cost the S-tier place, because they will be nerfed in the future, and thus be a waste of resources. Valuable robots like Fenrir etc, are not overpowered, so they're not getting nerfed. Meaning you aren't wasting any resources upgrading them instead.
@@wrleonardo I have never heard of a list that reduced the tier of items that are overpowered, I saw the beginning of the video but I didn't know that's what you meant by that... it's a pretty weird way to do a list but oh well. I have other disagreements with the list though, not just the OP bots in low tiers: - Nightingale, Blitz, Shell, Ares, Revenant, Leech, Harpy, Siren, Demeter, Typhon, Behemoth, Lynx, Crisis, and Skryos are all a tier or two too low - Kephri, Hades, Mars, Orochi, and Phantom are a tier or two too high Just my opinion tho
@Adazahi Great to hear your opinions! I decided to make it this way, because literally everyone knows that ocho would be s tier and that stuff, so I decided to make it more interesting like this.
@@wrleonardo I see what you mean. Perhaps it would be better to do two tier lists, one for how balanced things are (too weak, too strong, just right) and then one just for pure power. Also would like to see a list for drones and titans, I find those to be most interesting
@Adazahi Titans at least is on my bucket list, and having just what's the best in terms of power would be just boring, everyone knows the most up to date stuff are powerful
Can't like this, as you offended his highness the FENRIR HUNTER aka MERCURY! Jk here's a like for all the work put into this..juat wish the tier screens were a bit longer. I love my Mercury, still the best bot in my Champion League hangar
Hehe glad you liked it 😊 With tier screens, do you mean the screen of all bots in them or the screens for every robot? Btw, believe me or not, but I've never touched mercury 🤫
@wrleonardo ah it's just a minor nitpick..maybe a second more for the final screens with all the robots. Btw I agree with the tier almost completely, best one I've seen yet. And reserving a special tier for OP bots. Love the content
Yo, I am a noob to the gills, level 24 running lancelot,raven,mercury and natasha. Any recommendations for probably anything would help. I really like mercury but he gets best on, hard and often.
I recommend getting a tank like Ravana or Fenrir, or some assasin like Scorpion next. It kinda depends on what weapons and pilots you have and what is your playstyle. I recommend first going into the test server and trying out some build you'd like, and going for it.
@@MaxVerstappen.aWorldchampion.Thank you! I'm trying to first hit 500 subscribers to get to the Creator program, so I can host giveaways. I'll keep going after that too!
I wanna ask u a question I have 1600 plantinuma and a kid with tonas and gratantula should I buy athur with 2 laser weapon or should I buy Minos or should I buy luchador
Whaaat? You put shell the lowest? Oh man, if you could just see my gameplay in champion league, I made video but it was taken down because of music in it. It's strong bot, you have to try my setup. And play ot tew time ms to get used to it, you'll see the power of shell. It should be at least B or or A, also angler is weak and slow but mine setup gives it speed and hp. But requires different play style than before. Wish could show you 😊
Lol I own an Mk3 fenrir with maxed out modules (the right ones ofc), pilot and weapons…im currently and have been in champions league for quite a while. Sorry to tell you bud but the fenrir gets decimated by absolutely everything now and not even worth healing and wasting power cells. I’d say it’s still a B tier tho.
@@wrleonardo yeah and literally in every single match I play there’s always 2-3 guys using them and there’s really no point in playing fenrir currently. It’s slow and without healing it’s weak
@@wrleonardo Good. However you don’t see many WR RUclipsrs using the fenrir or these older bots unless they have the broken drones that make them op. Try being a F2P and using a fenrir with a nebula😂
I can take an erebus any day, their shields are strong but with crisis' shieldbreaker, you don't stand a chance against prismas that drop you in one second.
@@wrleonardo yea it is a weak robot at the hp department but ijust tink it can assist youre team in pikking fights end doing some damige im also just in diamont
@@wrleonardo yes it gets kild real quik it's a real probline when you start in diamand but untul diamiand its a accetebol robod i think dont undurstand but i need legendleg in diamond 3 very balencend
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Hi. I miss the good old days where people hide behind the fuji. And people using natasha with the zenith and morter
I remember 🥲 Zenit butch was one of my favourite builds since you could constantly spam zenits on enemies!
Really miss that time man..
So nice when Fuji instead became a shield tower instead of a movable solo shield, good ol’ days
There's no way Rhino is better than Lancelot
Good point, I think its speed had a little too high impact here this time
olden days where ancilot was a thing (ancile energy shield with tarans), a magnum rhino can literally just destroy one of the lancelot's front phyical shield. once that's done, the rhino drops the shields and mag dumps the lancelot with tarans. during this skirmish, the rhino shield can survive a full mag of tarans
@@gabbylikeskicks And remember how good ambusher the thunder carnage was?
@@wrleonardo oh man yesss. Dude was hella fast when it used its ability (in old wwr standards). The energy shield it had was only strong enough just so stray physical shots wouldn't deplete its hp, long enough for carnage to be in knifefight range of its target. And high chance that target is toast no matter how high its hp was at knifefight range. I even bought the tiger skin for carnage, cause I literally played like a predator. Just lurking behind the scenes, and at the moment they least expect, jumps out of hiding and rushes in. But at the same time it can't survive out in the open, so, like a tiger, needs tall grass to avoid being seen and destroyed.
@@wrleonardo why did they nerf the speed boost and duration so much, it kinda ruined carnage, used to be so good with the thunders yeah!
Me after spending a month to get a shell:sad human noises
I see some like it, and have criticized me of the placement, so yeah I guess it can still work
Shell is powerful but it’s nothing compared to the new bots
@@MinhQuangNguyen-og4mz Mmh, well I see the Shell only good as a counter to energy weapons. Curies are so popular nowadays, and their turrets deal kinetic damage, destroying the shields very fast.
@@MinhQuangNguyen-og4mz true
still useful for extermination mode
I really wish people would talk about hellburner more, and as a hellburner user i agree with the rank and reason, it needs the light to be a medium but its a really good beacon runner and damage dealer.
Yep, it just doesn't have enough defense. It's a fun bot ngl
@@wrleonardo that’s the thing, you should lvl hell burner up, and give it an ecu and ancile, Max all that and you have yourself the ultimate enemy line breaker, just use the ability for damage will keeping yourself alive with the ancile+ecu!!!
@@HjalmarNy Magnetar Dagon: Imma end this man's whole career
Cossack and Schütze is in S tier as well they are the 🐐
I have them both mk3 😭
I think (before you continue, yes. There's some bias as I play Typhon) Typhon deserves either Low B or High C, maybe even mid B. I use him all the time and boy, is he good. His ability shuts down opponents from almost everything (besides shooting). His Aegis shield also aids him in disposing of enemies quickly. He excels when he's paired with full auto weapons for faster dps. (I use Punisher-T, the base weapon, and he is still good.)
You can almost win every 1v1 with him as he can go toe-to-toe with any bot (not titans though) with this combo:
Blackout 2.0
Go all in
This works as you won't need to worry much about your health because of your Aegis shield and full auto weapon. The faster you kill them, the less damage you recieve.
Pair him up with a good pilot and you got yourself a powerhouse.
That's just my opinion though.
I can relate to this, since I also use the Typhon. However, the main weakness is having a 2v1, because the Typhon is only really good in 1v1.
typhon deserves A tier, despite the low hitpoints. It has one of the highest firepower and an ability that helps alot, aegis is also an add on
That's a valid point, but it's also so vulnerable to snipers, like it's completely left drfenseless if one tries to snipe them
Putting invader at d is crazy
Well what do you expect? It is so slow, and barely has any hardpoints to mount weapons to. Also legenrady pilots are trash.
@@wrleonardotrue
You proven to be mistaken just the moment you put the invader in D class, 750k durability and 100% suppression is no joke, you can't kill it when the amps are charged up + it can easily destroy most of that other upper class bots
It's not 100% suppression, nothing has that. 750k is a lot but Invader has no defense points, unlike the Fenrir who can easily, even way before mk3 reach 900k effective hp even without counting in the healing, overall invader is decent but it lacks firepower
@@wrleonardo100% suppression💀💀💀
@@HjalmarNy yea imagine
Amzing tier list, thanks for putting up all the work! And i gotta agree with the fenrir.
Glad you enjoyed! I'm making one for titans too!
Man my favourites where mars,angler and seraph at that time they were at peak but now them i still miss that meta where seraph could kill like 5 people with only like 15 sec 😢😢
Yep and it was incredibly fast too!
@@wrleonardoya😢
No because it was broken, the nerf was necessary
@@HjalmarNy You're right, the nerf knew its place. But it was fun while it lasted!
very useful, can only find top 5's nowadays. I'd love to see this style with titans aswell, but maybe put all of them in a single tier list(?)
Yeah, I might want to make a tier list of titans. It's going to be much faster, so it won't take two weeks to make like this one did 😅 I'll actually make a poll rq
Not gonna
Erebus is more like artillery rather then sniper
3 heavy weapons and a rocket launcher that shoots missiles that gives emp, root, suppression and blackout is like a support when your team is in a tough fight
And can be useful when a enemy os coming towards You and hit em a Homing Blackout and then there left vulnerable when you shoot from afar
Yes but no. If anything it sabotages your teammates. Picture this: a teammate Typhon is fighting an enemy leech. They haven't seen eachother yet. Now you emp the leech thinking you're helpful. Well then the effect wears out, and when the typhon attacks the leech, the leech gets to use its ability since typhon can't blackout him because he has immunity for it. In that case if you wouldn't have fired off the rocket, the typhon would've been able to blackout the leech and destroy it before it can use its ability.
Very Old news, but I’ll never forgive them for what they’ve done to angler. That was the first bot that I dumped money into immediately after buying it, and it’s been nerfed to hell. One day I just logged in loaded up a game and wondered: why is he running so slow when the ability is active, then I went to RUclips and saw the news 💀
I get it, it was probably quite devastating news
Angler got like 11 nerfs, probably the worst bot to spend money on🤣
@@Rikka_V1 11 exactly, you can't tell it beforehand.
The nemesis is hard to master, but it can figth even titans tanks to the shield, i main it since it came out, and its my fav bot of all time
It really is a great robot, but next update is going to be rough since the unstable conduit is going to give 45 seconds of shieldbreaker
@@wrleonardo oh hell na, am ded lol
Same I Always Loved The Nemesis, Very Unpopular But Very Nice To Run.
I’ve been playing Fenir. I don’t get all the hype. It is easily countered by pretty much everything, has a very weak shield that most pilots remove anyway, the speed boost is almost unnoticeable, and overall, it is just bad. I have been playing the game for over 2 years, I know what I am doing. I would slap Fenir into D tier. Also, Shenlou is leagues ahead of Scorpion. Shenlou can do three times quickly what Scorpion can only do once. The only added bonus Scorpion has over Shenlou is its built in weapon that hardly does anything anyway. And then, Ratana, another terrible fan favorite. Its main ability is a two charge phase shift that can literally be applied to EVERY SINGLE ROBOT IN THE GAME, so there is no additional tactical use for Ravana. The entire S tier burned the kitchen down with your cooking.
First things first, did you read the criteria? I see you skipped that part and came here crying that the tier list isn't about the strongest bots, and that's because OF COURSE IT'S NOT! Every new robot would be an instant S tier in performance, period. That would be boring, huh? This tier list is about robot value. New bots are strong but they WILL be nerfed, old but gold bots like ravana or scorpion won't. Also yes Fenrir is easy to counter with subduers and what not, but I made this tier list like half a year ago where they didn't exist.
Seeing this, most of what it is is understandable, but I gotta be honest, Ochokochi doesnt deserve higher than a C because its often used unfairly. And you said it, its 'overpowered.' I also use most of the poorly ranked robots quite commonly and have gotten some great moments with them, in this case being Hover and Invader. But i like the opinions on all of them! Thanks for this.
You really seem to understand my point here which I absolutely do respect! I've gotten hundreds of comments about like "Shenlou should've been S because it's so powerful, same as ocho and curie"
I get it most definitely! And I respect everyone's opinion as well. Thanks for the response+
@@briangaming5233 No worries and happy to have you here ✌
I think the Typhon deserves an A tier,it has a really good fire power ,a decent aegis shield and it can emp,lockdown and supress enemies with a decent cooldown time,with the legendary pilot it gets a 25% damage boost for 5 seconds after the ability,wich makes it a very strong robot
It does, but still, the health isn't very good in my opinion.
@@wrleonardoIt is in a good level then the health is decent,my mk2 lvl 1 typhon as more than 200k durability,lasting a decent amount of time in the battlefield
Yes, but most mk2 bots have about 300k, typhon is glass cannon, and it works well like so
I was playing Carnage Thunder 7 years ago and it was a lot of fun
The invincible , the OG , the king , the boss , the COSSACK !
Hawk was the coolest thing on release and yeah i can agree 100% the damage is so insignificant i find myself dying with it quickly Ao jun as well is fun but weak damage you just die so fast in games now war robots was in its prime in id say 2018-2021 but i still play it its still fun when people arent trying to have an absolutely unkillable robot
Ikr and the Hawk actually has a very unique ability to direct the power of equipped weapons into the built-in weapon!
Personally I'd rate scorpion B tier.
While yes, it can do great surprise attacks especially with witheout drone, it's also very vulnerable and it's getting harder for scorpion to keep up with doing enough dmg without meta weapons because avg hp level's are getting higher. It's very tricky robot heavily dependant on equipped weapons, whereas tyohon for example, can make good use of basically any weapon since it's very versatile
That is true, and because of power-creep, new stronger weapons are coming all the time. Like the Leiming and the other one idk the name, would be perfect for scorpion.
Only robot that can counter scorpion is prob lynx due to its stealth and Execution ability it also brings meta weapons in my opinion I think good weapons like stakes are pretty good on it ❤
@@Codmcontent-b9z you can counter scorpion's attack no matter the robot you use. You could attack back in time even in cossack or destrier. If you survive or not is matter of hp you have left and if your robot is capable of defending itself instead of tanking dmg (form of defence being aegis 2.0, regenerative abilities etc)
Good tierlist man, appreciate it a lot. I love how the rank B for tier 4 robots just isnt there untill the end. My favourit robot is fafnir, i personally think that he is way stronger than fenrir, oh and demeter is f*cking hard to play but fun 👍
Appreciate the efforts! I really like when ppl play non-meta bots just for fun, it brings me hope! A tip for demeter: spawn late and protect titans with it
I won't bother with every single robot on the list but BRUH! You did a lot of them dirty. After the recent updates to reflect shield harpy has become a very dangerous target. If you fire at it while airborne you have a good chance of death by reflect shield. The angler has definitely stood the test of time and still has the power to takedown weaker titans thanks to its blinding skill. The lynx is the work horse of the game. They may be easier to kill now but they can still take a lot of hit and dish out a lot of close combat fatalities. Have you even met a curie on the battle field? I did! If armed with a subduer not even the titans can handle it. I once went head to head with one in my shell (the one you ranked F) and in the 2 minute long skirmish it kept healing 2/3 of its durability instantly every time. In the end I only managed to kill it because of an orbital strike I hit it with and because it did not have subduers. I have also seen curie get attacked by 2 rooks, 1 minos, 1 aether and my kid.... AT THE SAME TIME. it survived direct fire for a minute straight. How on earth do you figure that monster is anything less then S tier? Finally the shenlou is literally a cheat robot compared to a scorpion. While scorpion can only teleport once and it appears so close to the target that the target can notice it, shenlou literally appears on a camera blind spot by design so you won't even realize it is there until you hear the familiar cracking sound of a leiming frying your durability instantly, but then it just teleport to the next target while it's skill is still active. It can take down up to 3 targets per skill use when equipped with leiming weapons and titans are not safe from devastating damage from those weapons either. At this point scorpion has been sidelined not by merging but by this cheat bot pixonic created with improved assassination ability. If anything scorpion is B tier because it is easier to spot when teleporting which makes it easily targeted and dispatched due to low health. Shenlou is S tier not because it is not killable but because pixonic made it physically impossible to counter with the existing controller design of WR. The robot appears in a players blind spot on camera (slightly out of range off camera) it can teleport longer distances then scorpion and it can be made very durable thanks to leiming weapons that can instakill without attack boosts.
First off, what a damn paragraph, I appreciate the effort! Secondly the few bots you mentioned aren't relevant in Champions League. Thirdly, the tier list was made to show a robot's value, not absolute power. Every new bot is powerful so it'd be a boring tier list. Fourthly Shenlou lost points because it's difficult to get and it's too powerful, meaning it likely gets nerfed soon, bringing it lower than scorpion, and by the time you've already maxed out your scorpion when Shenlou gets nerfed to the ground. Fiftly you won't get killed by Harpy's reflector if you aren't low hp already, and at that point the harpy is focusing you anyways. Sixthly the angler is absolute dogshit because it's so slow even titans can outrun it. Many use the anti-jamming support to counter the blind effect, and even if you do get blinded the angler usually won't have enough firepower to kill you so you can just wait for the blind to go and then get him. If you're dying to anglers and harpies, then you have a massive skill issue.
@@wrleonardo ok if you are taking long term value into account then you still scored lynx very low. I am in master 1 league so I play champion league players more then I want to (champion league has way too many cheaters). And guess what I deal with all the robots I mentioned on a daily bases. You would be surprised how often I encounter an angler in the champion league players hanger compared to a fenrir. And I do not agree with your assessment that angler is sh*t because it's ability can change the tide of a battle when attacking in a group. It is a very tenacious robot lasting a long time and can only be dealt by ranged attacks but anyone close to it is already target practice for the enemy. And then you talk about harpy as only killing players low on health I can't agree with that either because I tested that with my kid titan and my crisis. Harpy were never as strong as they are now due to reflect shield update. Before the update it barely scratched the paint on my crisis. But now when I attacked an airborne harpy at full durability with 4 heavy ranged weapons and it barely took more then a third in damage but my crisis was toast due to reflection damage. The fully upgraded kid fared no better. I shot the airborne harpy with a veyron and I lost a third of my durability with very little damage to the harpy. Unless they nerf reflect shields for all robots again harpy is sitting at a higher tier. I am not so weak as to be called out on it buddy. Even though I don't have a hanger full of p2w monsters I still managed to get to master 1 league and already half way to champion. I agree with some of your list but not all of it because I have been playing against champion league everyday. While champion league players are more often playing master league and expert league players compared to their own league.
Oh so you aren't champion yet? Well that explains everything, since champion league has like 20 levels, and the closer to champion 1 we get, the stronger the opponents get. So facing a champion league player in master means he's probably champion 18-19. I want to 1v1 your angler if you think it's really that strong (dm me on discord: loikkaleo) and let's schedule the meeting. The harpy reflector does send back damage but everyone has their own defense systems that reduce the damage dealt by reflector. So in total they end up dealing more damage to the harpy than to themselves. Also ever heard of reaper? They're everywhere in champs
@@wrleonardo first thing: you would have to lend me an angler before the fight. I have only been on the receiving end of those annoying robots. My hanger also lacks any robots with reflect shield. I have been in this game for a little more then 6 month f2p. Scorpion was my first tier 4 robot so my hanger is built for support and assassinate. I only have a lynx to battle the heavily armored robots and I think lynx has done a great job for me through the masters league.
Yea those robots seriously are easy to outplay, I've played this game for years upon years. Not only that but I've learnt some tricks to outplay others from Counter-Strike 2 where all players can have the exact same equipment, so the only thing that matters is skill. In war robots, skill doesn't really even matter anymore, and there isn't anyone who's videos you can watch and be mind blown by their skill. Manni is skilled, but War Robots is not a game where you could show off with your skills. So, patience, brother ✌️
i would put angler higher because just like ravana both of their abilities can change a 1v1 scenario makes them think twice before attacking
Yep, but the Angler is too slow for the ability to be useful
I think it's somewhat what I also think specially on the tier 3 and tier 4 robots. Good thing I have the Ravanna and Scorpion to troll meta bots sometimes haha
Those really are strong despite them being old! That's exactly why they're both S-tier! 😁
@@wrleonardo Btw other channel with much larger audience did almost the exact same thing you did but less explanatory and all mixed up. I linked your content there since yours was the first time I saw a ranking with that table etc. I respect the other channel much, and I hope they recognize your originality and maybe do a commentary on yours rewarding the content you did and mentioning yours.
@@wrleonardoMy first comment with the link to this channel was deleted inmediately... I recreated the post without the link but mentioning the creation 3-4 days before. I hope he does it right by you.
@@ruymanbr May I ask which channel it was? I'd like to see their list too
Damn remember when blitz was meta before the ares even came out that was sooo long ago😳
Ikr it was such a simple game back then 🥲
The raven definitely deserves the S tier
Ikr! It's so much fun even in champs!
Mann I was bout to make vid bout this, small world huh. Good vid tho ❤
Thanks! You should make one too, you can share your opinion. If you're just planning now, prepare for a lot of work. 84 robots took me 2 weeks to process
Very helpful. Thank you!
No problem!
Hi, I think this is the best wr video. Question, which weapons do you suggest on Fenrir?
I personally love using the Mace and Hammer, since they offer great dpm, and the Blastcharge ignores defense, which is highly effective against tanks. So generally any good dpm weapon, and depending on your budget it could be punisher thunder, taran redeemer, hazard decay, mace hammer, shatter brisant, or even havoc devastator works.
Thanks, you are the best
@@wrleonardo thanks for the reply. I am actually a noob, recently got a khepri. What's your opinion on khepri?
@@JasonLynn-dm9ej I have one as well and I'd say it's one of the most valuable general use bots. Many weapons work well with it, and it's good supporter.
You put mender in S..
Mendy approves
It's one of the best, if not the best t3 bot
i put mercury in A. i'm biased, ran it since 2018 and still have it in champs. oh my god is it fun to use if you have an ultimate glory and paralysis drone.
Yk Luchador has that thruster that boosts it in the direction of jumping. Id Mercury had that too, it'd get A
@@wrleonardo that would be nice. maybe as a legendary pilot someday, or with the addition of an ultimate mercury
Bro i feel like ocho is s teir its realy good with the speed ability you can damage and then you can run away if you want
First off it's nerfed so it's quite easy to beat, also it's nowhere near easy to get
Easy to beat? Say it to my enemies i killed
@@GRIM_R34PER That is if you know what you're doing. War robots is a very casual game.
I didn’t need subtitles, good video, also I’m subbed now
It's ok, I thought I spoke really fast so I decided to put the subtitles in just in case. This is by far my most successful video! Thanks for subbing 💙
@@wrleonardo your welcome
@@wrleonardo though maybe one or two were off they are not enough to throw off the whole video
What are your opinions of which ones went wrong and why? I'm open for feedback
@@wrleonardo like the angler and a few others but I can’t say there names
Hi, I am a beginner. What robot should I make in the workshop?
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Generally, what playstyle suits you the best. I recommend picking one from the following: Fenrir, Ravana, Scorpion, Skyros, Khepri. All of them are viable options to play with. I recommend trying them all out in the next test server session, since you can try them for free.
How is the Geopard less than a destrier? Isn't it just a destrier but with another weapon slot?
Yes, but when you consider the league where you use it, with destrier your only option is cossack, but when gepard becomes an option, the Gl. Patton just comes past the gepard in terms of firepower and durability.
I’ve always loved Ravana and have had it for YEARS now! Glad to see it’s still a meta robot even today
And even more meta thanks to the bug fix (now can remove rust with ability)
i miss old war robots man, i dont know this robots, i only know my natasha with zenits, and griffith with orkan,pinata/magnum taran
I know right, the golden good days...
I don't know man my nightingale has been smashing everyone in masters beacons... especially now with the legendary pilot.. I think at least a B with legendary pilot, 50% is a HUGE improvement of the built in weapons rate of fire... It's meant to be played support and max DPS when it lands i like sonic weapons and a Showdown drone on mine... u shud try it. .
Yea but keep in mind the biw is weak and it's not meant to deal damage. In air it's helpless since it can't use the weapons, and because many use quantum radar, it gets shot down easily. The firepower isn't anything mind-blowing, it's the same as scorpion. But nightingale is kind of slow when walking so it can't really utilise the weapons too well. Also nowadays everyone has their own ways of repairing, so nightingale isn't really needed to keep someone in game.
Hell burner deserves S bro I ain’t even lying, it’s extremely good🔥
Yea it's good but not quite s-tier worthy, the main weakness is firepower, and another is health.
Nice tier list
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
I disagree with nightingale. It’s a vey good support and excluding the pilots, is better than mender
Kinda but supporting is nowadays useless and it can't fight whel flying. Qr also counters it so hard
My opinion behemoth is as it can fit any role which barely any robots can do because they can fit the support it can fit brawler and it can fit sniper so it is an S tier
Appreciate your opinion but behemoth doesn't belong anywhere near brawling range. It's too slow and defenseless to be a brawler. Sniper is only good option. S tier bots are good at anything, including running beacons. Behemoth could never
You have to put Wayland higher. You can’t forget about the intense resistance it has while it’s in its ability. That’s what makes it somewhat useable. And nightingale. Hear me out ok.its very long stealth and fast movement can make it flee combat when needed and hide better. It deserves higher
I appreciate your perspective here! In my opinion, the Weyland's resistance isn't very strong, and the nightingale yeah it can work but it also sucks how you can't shoot while falling down.
@@wrleonardo true and true. I usually do some funny trick shots in the hawk when I’m falling. But still I think the nightingale deserves higher
@@randomchannel1682 Your opinion really is based off of truths. However, the nightingale is kinda unagile and fragile, and all it takes is quantum radar. He cannot fight back
@@wrleonardo true. But atleast put the shell higher. That one kinda hurt too see go into f 😭 it’s still usable and you can knock people off beacons. Especially when they jump at you and you use the ability to fling them away. And it has ok durability and decent firepower. And its shields are great since everyone uses stake spike and needle. And when upgraded and with the kestrel drone it can be really fast
Yeah, I know it can work if you really dedicate that much effort for it, however if you'd dedicate the effort for for example, Ravana, you'd get much better results. Yes, you can knock people off of beacons, but they'll just walk right back. Ocho is for keeping them off. The shields are good but only for a short time, and flamethrowers make short work out of all shields.
Bro how is ophion c tier??? I always get 9+ kills with it and I’m in diamond tier
In diamond it's ok but in champs everyone has shieldbreaker so it's practically defenceless.
khepri is my favourite bot cause i like supporting titans
It's fun but supporting role is nowadays useless since everyone has healing modules
i have a ravana and i use havocs on it and its strong, its to close range to be a good weapon, good for my scorpion tho
Great robot to own nowadays! Do you have the regular or the Ivory ravana?
@@wrleonardo ivory ravana
I have 3 Shells and kick butt with that; must be how you are using it..
Yea, bit lower league and more dedication can take shell to usable level
Brooo seraph can destroy your career he will S it's best rating for him ❤❤❤
Welp seraph forcefield is ridiculously weak
I agree with the weak force field thing. Same with Nether’s. They nerfed Nether’s only source of protection into the dirt. Now if any sniper or a Dagon locks onto it, it is as good as dead.
ain't no way. Boa is one of the best robots in the game. it's like 2nd highest hp under leo, and was fast, and has one of the fastest turn rates. As a boa player, you don't stand in place, you kite around the target, outrunning the target's turn speed. Weapons today are all targetting pixelpoint accuracy now so turn speeds don't matter.
wtf Natasha was one of the worst bots back then lol. It was a placeholder to get enough gold to buy fury for the sniper role. natasha had shit hp in knifefights.
edit: I quit the game when Ravana came out, and Tanky shotgun phantoms was ruling the matches. I thought to myself, If I bought Ravana, I would for sure suffer power creep again on the next Robot release.
My favorite bots were Mender, Fenrir, Loki,Traditionalist Falcon,Bulwark, and Leech. Had I known that 2 out of the robots I liked plus Ravana would remain relevant today, I would've maybe stuck around. But I bet pilots, drones and whatnot also plays a part to why they are still great.
I also remember considering to quit the game when Ravana came, it was so stupid back then. There was literally nothing we could do to them, since they just had infinite phase shifts.
In my honest opinion Demeter is A tier the only thing that holds it back is just and shield breaker but other then that it's a decent option
True. It really depends on meta season. Also the ability cooldown is long and lt sucks how you can accidentally teleport on the wrong ally and also there's a little delay before teleporting during which the ally might get killed
@@wrleonardo yeah the cooldown needs to be slightly reduced like a 8 seconds cooldown would make it better
8 would be too little, I'm thinking 15-16 would be nice. 20 is too rough.
Can you make a video of gameplay of all the s and a tier robots?
I actually have I think all S-tier robots a video made of, but most a tier bots are the current meta bots and that's why I will never get those. Not gonna spend a dime on this game.
nice tier list however i think demeter should be A or S imo, it has ok durability, ok fire power, and is the only surviving support healing robot, with a absorber shield, it can save titans, all robots in a matter of time, which is something mender cannot do.
True, but because the only counter to Dagon is shieldbreaker, many have that module and it works for Demeter too. Also his ability cooldown is quite long, and he cannot teleport back.
@@wrleonardo yea good point
I feel like this tier list is more specified for tdm.
Scorpion is b tier at max, due to it being fragile, low firepower, and generally cant capture or hold a lot of beacons. u mentioned it urself, saying shenlou is a better version of scorpion, and thats true. Shenlou completely outclasses it, but u decided to put it under scorpion which makes 0 sense to me.
Ochokochi is far better than scorpion and on the same level as ravana, with the same firepower but an insane amount of hp and agility, making it great for capturing beacons and holding beacons, which is crucial in beacon rush or domination. in tdm i can see how scorpion outclasses these bots, however if this was a tdm based tier list, fenrir should not be that high.
from what ive heard, curie is pretty much meta atm but i dont have a lot to say about this. however i feel it should be at s mainly from how frequent i see it being problems.
calling dagon "almost balanced" is an understatement. with the right build you could probably 5 shot a titan
ophion is meta rn, arguably the best bot in the game atm. putting this in c tier, the same tier as harpy and hades is crazy
And as you probably saw, I clearly mentioned in the very beginning that balance has an effect in the rating. So overpowered robots will be nerfed in the future, making them less valuable over time.
I stopped watching watching when you’ve put Harpy at C! That is one of the most annoying yet one of the best support robots in the game to this day man! You have shield breaker incorporated from the Pilot and you can equip quantum radar and that’s a really deadly combination that not many robots can have equipped on!
Remember reaper exists
@@wrleonardo you can outsmart Crisis/Reapers, and that’s one of the reasons I’ve mentioned quantum radar, I did that many times, you wait for them to shoot at someone else and empty their clip and boom, you use your ability and they’re gone, other times don’t so yeah, fair enough! I was a bit dramatic however ahah, but anyway, I think Harpy should be ranked a little higher still! Regardless, props to you for making this type of “sensitive” content as many people have certain robots to their heart and depending on were you place them it will trigger a certain reaction, like mine in this case lol! Again, props to you and I will subscribe to you if that helps with your goal, whatever that may be! Have a good one! 🙂
Thanks for the kind words! I really tried to make the ranking as objective as possible, and I have played the harpy a lot. I have indeed countered a few crisis' with that, but only when they shoot first some other target. If they don't, well I can't do much from 700m away and reaper bullets on the way. I do still like the robot a lot, and he's in active use on both of my accounts.
Hey guys i just want to get some tips i have 3 other ochokochin in my inventory and my hanggar for this time is khepri ochokochi mk2,lynx,dagon and lynk again i also have crisis in my inventory and the things i want to ask you guys is is there any robot or something i need to change with my hanggar
You have a lot of fighters so consider a sniper. The crisis could work for that
@@wrleonardo thx bro
You really have to update your list
I see, but making new video after every update is a lot of work
I really disagree with Orochi I have an orochi viper setup and even with the nerf it’s amazing it has decent health it’s fast and that dot effect plus the dot on the vipers helps bring kills extremely quick and easy
I do like the orochi as well, but it's as simple to deal with as quantum radar. In champs the orochi can't stand for too long
I don’t understand how Cossack is actually in S tier
It's so iconic, it's such a community-bot. In game tho it's not that good
I think it has something to do with the fact that it can jump again as soon as it touches the ground.
Na it's a meme in the community that's why
I Think blitz deserves at least a D. I think most t4s in general (COUGH COUGH EXCEPT JAEGER COUGH COUGH) are decent. I still see a few extremely high level player, like top of champion league occasionally running a blitz.
I might be biased here, seeing as blitz is my favorite robot, but i still dont believe its THAT flimsy. i can survive for a long time in-battle with it.
Surely, it can be very strong robot but really it requires the same amount of equipment that'd make e.g. Ravana an actual monster
I was about to say great tierlist exept the scorpion cuz its clearly a D tier and then u f* up ur tierlist saying scorpion and fenrir are better than ocho curie and shenlou also the ophion was killed but its still a strong robot (after 9.8 it'll sucks) but appart from the T4 tierlist its a decent tierlist u made
If you didn't skip the beginning, I literally said "The robot's balance has an effect in the ranking" meaning if the balance is screwed up, like with ocho the case is, it's not good. And what comes to Ophion, well it's just the dampers that make it strong, not the robot itself being really good, because after the dampers get fully killed, nobody will use the Ophion anymore because not even the built-in weapon deals a lot of damage. My most viral video is exactly about the scorpion countering all meta bots, including ophions and ochos, and like I said, there's no better counter than attacking when the enemy has just used their ability.
Bad tier list how is angler D tier but scorpion, fenrir, and ravana are s? Angler is way better than all three of those bots
It's not, angler is easily countered by all of the tier S bots. Ravana uses his ability to avoid blind, Fenrir runs away, Scorpion teleports back. Angler has been nerfed so much, that you need all the speed skills and Kestrel to be quick enough to actually hunt enemies. It's just bad after all the nerfs.
@@wrleonardo Fenrir is slow, Ravana and scorpion are too squishy to fight with Angler
@@MrBananas Fenrir isn't very slow, and it can get closer to 1m effective hp, and Ravana can phase shift to counter angler, and scorpion can teleport back. Anglers are weak anyways. They're slow asf and ability damage is crap as well as the whole bot
bro whats that one big yellow robot that has (ithink a tempest or a gray minigun) behind his back has alot of hp can switch weapons from his back? I keep dying to it and i cant recognize it in this video sorry
Do you remember if it flies? Since Fafnir would match your description, since it has four medium weapons, and its ability disables two of them, activates a purple shield, activates an energy weapon, and starts flying.
@@wrleonardo its huge compared to normal trobots and it has like 2 punishers as arms and a minigun above its head. It cant fly
@@laffy42069 Oh now I know! It's the Kid titan!
@@wrleonardo ohhh ok tysm
@@laffy42069 You'll also get one when you reach level 25 I believe
I have been playing for a 2 weeks, and I have opinion, fenrir , Fujin, ranjin, what weapons should I have? I’m also f2p
Thanks for the good question! Fujin and Raijin aren't really good long term, but if you really want to use them, tarans for fujin and zeus for raijin are good options. For Fenrir, Tarans and Redeemer work wonders even in higher leagues, so that's my ultimate recommendation. For ophion you'd want some midrange sharpshooting weapons, my idea is either tarans again (tarans are the best friend for f2p) ot punisher t's. Punishers are tier 1 weapons, so you should take advantage of that and upgrade those to mk2. It's really cheap do do so.
Scorpion is decent but seeing Shenlou, nobody will use scorpion anymore.
I do, since we all know shenlou will get a nerf and be then worse than scorpion. Also scorpion can teleport back at any given moment, shenlou has to wait 30 s
Seeing all my good robots get either outclassed or nerfed into the ground hurts
I know 😔 Also the powercreep is killing old bots, they were good and I still miss them
Scorpion is not s, main B or last A and kepri is C, Ravana is A
Lynx should be A and shell at least B bcs during lynx meta shell was the best counter by far and a must in meta squads
Appreciate your perspective! My thoughts were with the scorpion, that he's the counter to meta no matter the season. Ravana can still outwait abilities, and basically do the same as scorpion. Khepri is kinda something between b and c, but c was so full already that I decided to balance things a bit. Lynx lacks lots of hp, and the forcefield is honestly weak. Shell is just sorry to say but straight up trash. After the shields are gone, it's a free kill, it's not fast without tons of speed skills and all, the ability isn't too damaging, firepower is weak, and the lynx meta is dead.
Tier 1 is great i agree with it but the s tier on it i think A tier
Tier 2 great nothing wrong with it
Tier 3 some robots i think should be higher or lower but great but
Tier 4 everything is messed up i dont agree with it but i like the video tho
Did you read literally the first slide where I explained the ranking criteria? Don't worry, you aren't the first one to say about this. TL; DR: being overpowered means they will get nefed eventually, so not good long term. That's why it reduces points. Also new meta stuff are practically impossible to get f2p, so it also reduces points. It'd be taken for granted that all new stuff are the strongest in raw performance, and that'd make a boring list.
Man this list is rough, mostly looking at the T4 bot list. How is curie not in S tier when you can literally run it with no weapons and kill titans? And ophion in C tier, whattt? Is this post test server nerf? Even then I think its too low...
As I said (which quite few including you missed) in the beginning of the video, "Balance has an effect in the rating". We know Curie is kind of bugged, and the bugs just make him much stronger than he should be. So, overpowered will cost the S-tier place, because they will be nerfed in the future, and thus be a waste of resources. Valuable robots like Fenrir etc, are not overpowered, so they're not getting nerfed. Meaning you aren't wasting any resources upgrading them instead.
@@wrleonardo I have never heard of a list that reduced the tier of items that are overpowered, I saw the beginning of the video but I didn't know that's what you meant by that... it's a pretty weird way to do a list but oh well. I have other disagreements with the list though, not just the OP bots in low tiers:
- Nightingale, Blitz, Shell, Ares, Revenant, Leech, Harpy, Siren, Demeter, Typhon, Behemoth, Lynx, Crisis, and Skryos are all a tier or two too low
- Kephri, Hades, Mars, Orochi, and Phantom are a tier or two too high
Just my opinion tho
@Adazahi Great to hear your opinions! I decided to make it this way, because literally everyone knows that ocho would be s tier and that stuff, so I decided to make it more interesting like this.
@@wrleonardo I see what you mean. Perhaps it would be better to do two tier lists, one for how balanced things are (too weak, too strong, just right) and then one just for pure power. Also would like to see a list for drones and titans, I find those to be most interesting
@Adazahi Titans at least is on my bucket list, and having just what's the best in terms of power would be just boring, everyone knows the most up to date stuff are powerful
the ophion is far to low the ophion is insane!!
It isn't insane, but it isn't crap either
Do you know how to level up and get silver fast i can’t get any good robots
Extermination gives a lot of silver, try that! You'll also get tons of keys so try to save them for gold chests to get nice weapons
@@wrleonardo I’ll try it thank you
shenlou just an upgrade from scorpion yet its still lower in ranking?????
Overpowered = will be nerfed in the future = will become worse than scorpion = not worth it long term.
Can't like this, as you offended his highness the FENRIR HUNTER aka MERCURY!
Jk here's a like for all the work put into this..juat wish the tier screens were a bit longer.
I love my Mercury, still the best bot in my Champion League hangar
Hehe glad you liked it 😊 With tier screens, do you mean the screen of all bots in them or the screens for every robot? Btw, believe me or not, but I've never touched mercury 🤫
@wrleonardo ah it's just a minor nitpick..maybe a second more for the final screens with all the robots.
Btw I agree with the tier almost completely, best one I've seen yet. And reserving a special tier for OP bots.
Love the content
Thank you for the kind words! I'm also proud of the list, and it makes me happy hearing others like it as well 😄
I don't think nightingale is that bad :(
It's not bad but it doesn't have any use in higher leagues
Yo, I am a noob to the gills, level 24 running lancelot,raven,mercury and natasha. Any recommendations for probably anything would help. I really like mercury but he gets best on, hard and often.
I recommend getting a tank like Ravana or Fenrir, or some assasin like Scorpion next. It kinda depends on what weapons and pilots you have and what is your playstyle. I recommend first going into the test server and trying out some build you'd like, and going for it.
Thanks buddy
@@ianonufer6988 You're welcome!
Bro all the robots in my hangar are s tier except blitz 😳
That's great!! That hangar will last you long way, keep going!
Good video loved it.😊
Good to hear you liked it!
Keep up with these video i will subscribe now, hope you hit 1k sometime in the future.
@@MaxVerstappen.aWorldchampion.Thank you! I'm trying to first hit 500 subscribers to get to the Creator program, so I can host giveaways. I'll keep going after that too!
I wanna ask u a question I have 1600 plantinuma and a kid with tonas and gratantula should I buy athur with 2 laser weapon or should I buy Minos or should I buy luchador
Minos or lucha I'd say, tonans will get nerfed so maybe minos? However you like the playstyle. I'd recommend trying both on test server first
Save for luchador
Buy buy buy this game is pay to win , after buy platinium for up to lvl 150 ,and buy for pilote And buy xp😂😂😂 work hard for buy pixel 😂😂😅😅
@@mathieumartin982 don't listen to him and save your hard earned cash for something more worthwhile.
@@mathieumartin982what
The assessment is very objective
Well tier list videos tend to be lile that 🤷
I think you meant subjective…as in, his point of view. Sorry to be that guy.
@@shadowpulse44 Nono I get those constantly mixed up, thanks for correction!
Nightingale and aojun are op bro
No
Whaaat? You put shell the lowest? Oh man, if you could just see my gameplay in champion league, I made video but it was taken down because of music in it. It's strong bot, you have to try my setup. And play ot tew time ms to get used to it, you'll see the power of shell. It should be at least B or or A, also angler is weak and slow but mine setup gives it speed and hp. But requires different play style than before. Wish could show you 😊
You can re-upload it as hidden, and give the link. If you want to do it privately, you can dm me in Discord @loikkaleo
I forgot Nemesis was tier 3 i thought it was 4
Yea that's the only t3 pantheon bot
Hey I liked the video, so much in fact I would like to make a similar video to this one, is that ok?
Feel free to make your own, I'd love to watch that! Just prepare for a lot of work, it's 84 robots. This one took me two weeks.
alr ready on it!!!
@@wrleonardo
Have fun!
tyr should be at b tier atleast, he got shield and can heal and isnt slow
Yeah but healing isn't very strong and has only 2 medium slots active while healing.
😂😂 my whole hanger is here in above rank C - Fenrir, ravana, scorpian, lynx and crisis
That's a great thing! You'll probably find out the robots do well and won't get nerfed
im lvl 23 amd have a frozen digon and i havent used $once yet
Nice! Dagon works with practically any weapons!
using 2 erebus. it's damn deadly s tier
Crisis > Erebus
crazy how gepard and rogatka is e like they are not better than starter mech in every way
Yeah, see, they're both not really worth going for in the start
Thankyou!
nxt WEAPONS 👍🔥
Man, there's like three times as much weapons as robots. I really wouldn't have time for this
U got alot of that wrong
I respect your opinion
@@wrleonardoI don’t you did good
t-falcon is a s for me because it is a robot with price performance
True, can't forget its cheap cost and easy upgrades
Lol I own an Mk3 fenrir with maxed out modules (the right ones ofc), pilot and weapons…im currently and have been in champions league for quite a while. Sorry to tell you bud but the fenrir gets decimated by absolutely everything now and not even worth healing and wasting power cells. I’d say it’s still a B tier tho.
Well I also have a well levelled fenrir in champs so I know, but it's mostly dampers and subduers that kill it
@@wrleonardo yeah and literally in every single match I play there’s always 2-3 guys using them and there’s really no point in playing fenrir currently. It’s slow and without healing it’s weak
@@sweetgee9589 ruclips.net/video/VmA6w9lM3ZQ/видео.htmlsi=QPa2KUNbJHxE6IDw
@@wrleonardo Good. However you don’t see many WR RUclipsrs using the fenrir or these older bots unless they have the broken drones that make them op. Try being a F2P and using a fenrir with a nebula😂
I'm f2p and I use it with Kestrel instead. It's better. And yes, it took me like half a year to save all the microchips
arabus is good as a robot that helps you're team get pics
fight me !!!!!
I can take an erebus any day, their shields are strong but with crisis' shieldbreaker, you don't stand a chance against prismas that drop you in one second.
@@wrleonardo yea it is a weak robot at the hp department but ijust tink it can assist youre team in pikking fights end doing some damige im also just in diamont
@@wrleonardo probly in higer ranks it is not that good becues of all the energie shields that protect then from the effects of the rockets
@@thibautdeconinck7228 That isn't the problem, the erebus is just so insanely easy to kill so the rockets won't even make it.
@@wrleonardo yes it gets kild real quik it's a real probline when you start in diamand but untul diamiand its a accetebol robod i think
dont undurstand but i need legendleg in diamond 3 very balencend
Im crying in the corner because i only own silver and gold bots 💀💀💀
It's a painful phase..
Bro etc Nightingale ND aojun are both good
No, and this is your third comment in this topic
Any robot are in the right class except a few.😅😅😅
Glad you liked! It's impossible to make a tierlist where everyone agrees on every robot.
The hawk is useful its just that its no good with little robots but it destroyes titans and plus it looks liek u got that footage from 2021💀💀💀💀💀
I just recorded the footage just before starting editing. Even maxed hawk just isn't as good as maxed almost any other robot
Nice
Glad you liked! What's your favourite robot?
@@wrleonardoStellar Phantom is my #1 👍
It looks absolutely stunning tho! I've tried phantom too, it's fun robot I get that very well!