Don’t forget that Ming just got a pilot who grants stealth! I think this puts it in a tier above murometz, they basically do the same thing but Ao Ming has better firepower and a way shorter cooldown (as a trade off for no EMP). Also, running it with titan repair amps is working quite well since it has a repair ability and very high defense on the ground. It becomes surprisingly tanky despite having the lowest base HP in the game. I’m going to be uploading my tier list video later this afternoon (ideally) and I’ve put Ming in B tier (though, I don’t use the same criteria as you, I just rank them by whose strongest).
I'll check your list out too! I saw the Ming pilot, and the reason I didn't really want to count it in, was because 1. it's difficult to get and 2. the pilot must be well-levelled to get the stealth. The duration is also less, and the hp is meh. If ming is tanky with the repair amps, then murometz is too.
@@wrleonardo Ming is about 15% tankier than Murometz due to the increased defense points. It’s not a ton, but the gap widens with pilot skills, and the heal is also something to keep in mind. While you’re right that the stealth from Ming is shorter than that from Murometz, I think the absurd cooldown difference makes up for the 3 seconds or so that you lose. You’re right though that it’s hard to get the pilot leveled. But it’s also hard to get repair amps, and level the titan, and get good weapons, etc etc. Everything in this game is rather expensive, so when doing a list I generally just like to say “okay, I will rank everything based on its maximum power”
Reaaaly good stuff man! I know how much work it takes to make this type of videos! And YES, Minos is the most fun to run Titan by far, I’m running a Rook because it’s stronger in the current play style but with rust gone in next update and also the nerf of Newtons, let’s see how Minos can shine again maybe!? Big up bro 👊🏻
Excelent job! I would have placed some in a slightly different ranking, but this is very accurate. I would have granted some points in different aspects ina balanced ranking showing them in an excel and sum up the results to decide wether they belong in one or other tier, and showing the excel and results recording the screen aswell, not just the footage ingame. But overall this is the best titan ranking video out there. In any case, after seing the path pixoic is going I decided to delete the game a couple of days ago. Good luck to you all!
Thanks for the kind words and improvisation ideas! I really think this one went better than the robot tier list, since there was a lot less work. Glad you enjoyed!
Nice video! I would like to see a weapons tierlist next time if possible. Also,i would rank Indra in a big A or S tier,its a really good titan,if you have the skill u can fight against anything,you can also turn it good without having to upgrade that much,the vipassana of the Indra makes it also one of the best counters to the newton with tonans and fulgur,the eletric lasso is also really good if you're fighting against multiple enemies since you take 17.5% health from the enemy and heal 17% of your durability at max level. The Indra just has everything to be Good. High mobility and durability,decent firepower with 1 alpha and 2 betas,and really good abilities being the Vipassana and one being the eletric lasso wich can be either decent or a really good ability depending how much enemies it is connected to.
You're right, but keep in mind, because the Indra is so slow, many use the ability to get around faster, and that's why they won't have any abilities left when they'd need em. That's just skill issue, so let me mention this: The Veyron Evora build is objectively the best. The thing is, when you use the ability, you also lose the weapon's acceleration and it really is a huge drop in dps.
Nodens is the only low tier titan that can be used in champion league. Sharanga, Murometz and stuff altough look strong initially get outclassed easily by better titans, but none can do Nodens' job better. It is in it's own tier. 1 Nodens per team is always great.
It surely does help, especially if playing in squads. Everyone else can run four onslaught reactors because the Nodens can take care of healing. That is, only of you play in squads
I think aether deserves a S tier because if you play it right with the right weapons, its really op and i recommend using dazzlers and lantern since it could help you with your low durability to blind enemies
I've tried that in test server, and even on live server I have dazzlers and lanterns maxed. However the Anti-jamming Support is a very popular turret, and it grants 15 seconds of blind immunitation.
Robots with defense systems like Rook, Minos, Luchador are the lowest skill in the game. Sniper and support titans like Newton, Nodens, Ao ming, Sirius are difficult to use. These are rarely found especially compared to Rook and Luchador.
The thing is that Minos doesn't use reflector all the time. 7 second ability duration and 18-second cooldown. Rook is covered in shields, and lucha has two reflector abilities. So can't blame Minos for having a short reflector. It's that speed that allows him to make good use of the short time.
I have quite some experience in playing Minos, and I can confidently say that he's very strong, since you can run into a 1v1 when your reflector is on, and then run away. Plus, you can have a pilot skill that gives you an extra ability charge at 30% hp, so that's a great bonus! The reflector is the strongest in the game, giving 80% blocked damage and 50% returned damage. It's a lot!
True it is future proof but it's surprisingly easy to outplay, although it has no abilities that defend it while it can shoot, so it's not that good, but it's not bad either
RIP Minos. Flattened from meta ever since cinders got destroyed. I agree that speed is key, but I’m just getting back into the game after I quit from cinder nerfs (still have cinders cause I’m refusing to spend more money on this game) and the only thing it’s useful for is bullying weaker robots. Why did they have to nerf the mothership charge rate of both the charge ability and the cinders by like 4x? If cinders were their former glory in the current meta Minos would be insane. Imagine pumping out that many avalons every second. Probably would be completely immortal fighting 3 or more guys even if they were all titans (then again you wouldn’t be able to kill the enemies either due to low damage, just like all current titans because of Avalon).
Irony is the nerfed newton with fulgor tonans still 1 shots a bedwyr and slow speed means it cant realistically pose a threat to newton.... for balance personaly see newton and crisis as equals for what they are, every 15-17s they'll kill a bot/titan in 1 clip and nothing but stealth/physical shields or a phaseshift will save you as even last stand gives no hope
Weapons don't really make a titan, but it's overall the combination of weapons and the actual titan. I used the same weapons on Sirius, how come it doesn't do well? 🤔
I using between indra and minos and i think indra is better than minos, although minos having high speed and good reflector, but i think minos at some where like B
You say Sirius is F? Sorry to break your bubble, Sirius SMASHES Kid titans if they have the same equipment, the sonic turret goes THROUGH physical shields, and through testing deals 65% of a ARTHUR'S HP AND MAKES IT UN-FIXABLE... PS Arthur can NEVER outrun the shots from the turret unless he is like 350+ meters away from it only then can he can BARELY out run it Sharanga is even worse lmao, you cannot do ANYTHING about the turret. Nodens is doomed against Sirius. it has less HP, way less speed, and the Sirius passive is a DIRECT counter to the suppression charge Nodens has for its only defense. Nodens cannot outrun the turret what-so-ever, Nodens has PITIFUL self healing, and looses to Sirius 90% of the time. Im using a level 3 Sirius and I just recently killed a level 45 kid, a level 5 sirius (turret only lmao), and another level 4 kid. Sirius is high B tier, no doubt about it.
Maybe b where you are, the thing is that in champion league there are zero kids, Arthurs, nodenses, sharangas or stuff like that. Luchas and rooks are the most common as well as Eiffels. Sirius is very slow, and the turret does absolutely nothing about a 1.4m hp lucha with reflectors on. Sirius also has very low firepower, and gets absolutely trashed by even a minos
Well bedwyr works too, and almost any titan can beat a Sirius in a 1v1. The only ones it could beat are kid arthur ao ming and maybe nodens, others just trash the sirius
I want to know your thoughts why's that, since I think it's good this way. Arthur does beat the kid, mostly thanks to constantly active alpha slot and the shields.
i really like how you introduce every titan by mentioning their positives. When the kid hp get to lower than 10% get additional movement speed its not a bug. Its funny how minos is S tier and indra isn't 😂 minos is so weak bro do U see any of them in CL, and you can't say rook is S and eiffel A brother check yourself
Thanks for the feedback! I have some videos of Minos on my channel, feel free to check em and you'll see why it's good. The reason why people don't use it is because it actually requires skill, and paying a bit more to get stronger, less-demanding options like Newton becomes more tempting. However, the thing is that Minos is a valuable, long-term titan, so it won't become useless after two months. Newton will.
@@wrleonardo i know that minos isn't a useless titan and its safe for a long term bc i was using minos and as fun as it to run him, he is not perfurming that good against anything without his reflector he is just a running titan. And no matter what you gonna say i will stick with what i said early indra is better then rook and minos. And i will check you minos vids.
@@mc_kaTsU Thanks again for your perspective on things! It is true, that especially when repair amps aren't fully stacked, the Minos isn't very powerful. Thanks for giving the videos a watch!
@@wrleonardo not just my opinion indra is very overpowered sometimes like people with the right build and right skills can beat eiffels my friend beat a rook and a lucha and a eiffel in a 3v1 with his indra and those titans were maxed
Aether is worst than Sirius. WTF are you talking about? The reason aether is so bad is because aether’s ability in champions league is literally a death button.
@@wrleonardo Think about you can get one or two picks than a close range titan or newton will just kill you in flight while muroments has stealth so you just can’t deal damage at all. And any ways the only thing keeping it alive or fulgar and tonans and they are to be nerfed to the ground so that will make aether even worse.
@@wrleonardo but bro a titan that can phaseshift and if well built he can reach 1.2M HP while being the fastest titan, lasso deal 20% of ennemy HP that mean on a luchador for example its 300K damage
@@didirrr First off, if you use the veyron evora which is the best build, you lose the weapon acceleration when phase shifting. Secondly, Indra is far from the fastest titan, Minos easily takes the throne here. Thirdly, if 20% from Luchador's hp would be 300k, then he would have 1.5M max hp which is only possible if you run 3-4 Plated armor kits, which is very rare sight to see.
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Don’t forget that Ming just got a pilot who grants stealth! I think this puts it in a tier above murometz, they basically do the same thing but Ao Ming has better firepower and a way shorter cooldown (as a trade off for no EMP). Also, running it with titan repair amps is working quite well since it has a repair ability and very high defense on the ground. It becomes surprisingly tanky despite having the lowest base HP in the game.
I’m going to be uploading my tier list video later this afternoon (ideally) and I’ve put Ming in B tier (though, I don’t use the same criteria as you, I just rank them by whose strongest).
I'll check your list out too! I saw the Ming pilot, and the reason I didn't really want to count it in, was because 1. it's difficult to get and 2. the pilot must be well-levelled to get the stealth. The duration is also less, and the hp is meh. If ming is tanky with the repair amps, then murometz is too.
@@wrleonardo Ming is about 15% tankier than Murometz due to the increased defense points. It’s not a ton, but the gap widens with pilot skills, and the heal is also something to keep in mind.
While you’re right that the stealth from Ming is shorter than that from Murometz, I think the absurd cooldown difference makes up for the 3 seconds or so that you lose.
You’re right though that it’s hard to get the pilot leveled. But it’s also hard to get repair amps, and level the titan, and get good weapons, etc etc. Everything in this game is rather expensive, so when doing a list I generally just like to say “okay, I will rank everything based on its maximum power”
@Adazahi I do agree with your vision here. Still, why I think Murometz wins here, is simply because it's so affordable titan.
Reaaaly good stuff man! I know how much work it takes to make this type of videos! And YES, Minos is the most fun to run Titan by far, I’m running a Rook because it’s stronger in the current play style but with rust gone in next update and also the nerf of Newtons, let’s see how Minos can shine again maybe!? Big up bro 👊🏻
I really can't wait for the era of no ochos and dampers, and of course no newtons! It's going to be awesome!! 😎😎
Nice I like that ranking titan and robots video 💯👌🏻
Glad you liked!
Yo nice ranking tier video
Thanks! Glad you liked!
Excelent job! I would have placed some in a slightly different ranking, but this is very accurate. I would have granted some points in different aspects ina balanced ranking showing them in an excel and sum up the results to decide wether they belong in one or other tier, and showing the excel and results recording the screen aswell, not just the footage ingame. But overall this is the best titan ranking video out there. In any case, after seing the path pixoic is going I decided to delete the game a couple of days ago. Good luck to you all!
Thanks for the kind words and improvisation ideas! I really think this one went better than the robot tier list, since there was a lot less work. Glad you enjoyed!
Nice video!
I would like to see a weapons tierlist next time if possible.
Also,i would rank Indra in a big A or S tier,its a really good titan,if you have the skill u can fight against anything,you can also turn it good without having to upgrade that much,the vipassana of the Indra makes it also one of the best counters to the newton with tonans and fulgur,the eletric lasso is also really good if you're fighting against multiple enemies since you take 17.5% health from the enemy and heal 17% of your durability at max level.
The Indra just has everything to be Good.
High mobility and durability,decent firepower with 1 alpha and 2 betas,and really good abilities being the Vipassana and one being the eletric lasso wich can be either decent or a really good ability depending how much enemies it is connected to.
You're right, but keep in mind, because the Indra is so slow, many use the ability to get around faster, and that's why they won't have any abilities left when they'd need em. That's just skill issue, so let me mention this: The Veyron Evora build is objectively the best. The thing is, when you use the ability, you also lose the weapon's acceleration and it really is a huge drop in dps.
@@wrleonardo I thought the vajra shotguns were the best on indras
@@NonExistent_Player They work on almost any titan
Nodens is the only low tier titan that can be used in champion league. Sharanga, Murometz and stuff altough look strong initially get outclassed easily by better titans, but none can do Nodens' job better. It is in it's own tier. 1 Nodens per team is always great.
It surely does help, especially if playing in squads. Everyone else can run four onslaught reactors because the Nodens can take care of healing. That is, only of you play in squads
I think aether deserves a S tier because if you play it right with the right weapons, its really op and i recommend using dazzlers and lantern since it could help you with your low durability to blind enemies
I've tried that in test server, and even on live server I have dazzlers and lanterns maxed. However the Anti-jamming Support is a very popular turret, and it grants 15 seconds of blind immunitation.
Robots with defense systems like Rook, Minos, Luchador are the lowest skill in the game. Sniper and support titans like Newton, Nodens, Ao ming, Sirius are difficult to use. These are rarely found especially compared to Rook and Luchador.
The thing is that Minos doesn't use reflector all the time. 7 second ability duration and 18-second cooldown. Rook is covered in shields, and lucha has two reflector abilities. So can't blame Minos for having a short reflector. It's that speed that allows him to make good use of the short time.
Nice list. One thing though. I don't think Minos can really compare to other S tier robots, so I would have put in in A.
I have quite some experience in playing Minos, and I can confidently say that he's very strong, since you can run into a 1v1 when your reflector is on, and then run away. Plus, you can have a pilot skill that gives you an extra ability charge at 30% hp, so that's a great bonus! The reflector is the strongest in the game, giving 80% blocked damage and 50% returned damage. It's a lot!
Indra definitely should be an A+ titan. Transcendence saved my ass so many times from those Newtons 😂
True, but remember newtons are gone soon
indra in b is wild thats atleast an a tier titan because its future proof
True it is future proof but it's surprisingly easy to outplay, although it has no abilities that defend it while it can shoot, so it's not that good, but it's not bad either
Its not futureproof. people also said futureproof for the luchador, look what happened years later
Cool
Thanks
RIP Minos. Flattened from meta ever since cinders got destroyed. I agree that speed is key, but I’m just getting back into the game after I quit from cinder nerfs (still have cinders cause I’m refusing to spend more money on this game) and the only thing it’s useful for is bullying weaker robots.
Why did they have to nerf the mothership charge rate of both the charge ability and the cinders by like 4x? If cinders were their former glory in the current meta Minos would be insane. Imagine pumping out that many avalons every second. Probably would be completely immortal fighting 3 or more guys even if they were all titans (then again you wouldn’t be able to kill the enemies either due to low damage, just like all current titans because of Avalon).
The Cinder actually got buffed slightly in the recent updates, but yeah it's wayy too weak to use.
Irony is the nerfed newton with fulgor tonans still 1 shots a bedwyr and slow speed means it cant realistically pose a threat to newton.... for balance personaly see newton and crisis as equals for what they are, every 15-17s they'll kill a bot/titan in 1 clip and nothing but stealth/physical shields or a phaseshift will save you as even last stand gives no hope
If the Bedwyr still opens his shield, the newton can't do anything. Also the reload with Tonans and Fulgur are now 12 sec
Yo man can you help me what should i buy plz
Rook 2x evora 1 veyron
Baihu Luchador 2 evora 1x argon
Btw nice vid!
I'd recommend Luchador, it's generally better
@@wrleonardo thanks man! glad you replied!
which titan you use between Luchador and the Rook if you had to choose one
Lucha, although there's a chance it might get nerfed, it's overall better than rook nowadays. It's just such a beast!
@@wrleonardo This did not age well, Luchador got COOKED
I don’t like Minos cause I don’t know how to use it
That's a skill issue that can be fixed. I can teach you, dm me on discord: loikkaleo
Oohh boy those luchas 😂😂
Yeah they were having fun 😊
minos is not good its the weapons actually
Weapons don't really make a titan, but it's overall the combination of weapons and the actual titan. I used the same weapons on Sirius, how come it doesn't do well? 🤔
Ur right ✅️
@@wrleonardo well you could try better modules and other skills on the titan pilot
@@asimroy447 yep i have fought many minos and it only does anything to me when it has strong weapons
@Wr_editor maybe Leo, forget that he got smoked by that ocho yesterday😂. I was squading with him
I using between indra and minos and i think indra is better than minos, although minos having high speed and good reflector, but i think minos at some where like B
Well at max level it's easily able to outplay almost any titan, and take into consideration it's a tier-3 titan
@@wrleonardo that make sense
You say Sirius is F? Sorry to break your bubble, Sirius SMASHES Kid titans if they have the same equipment, the sonic turret goes THROUGH physical shields, and through testing deals 65% of a ARTHUR'S HP AND MAKES IT UN-FIXABLE... PS Arthur can NEVER outrun the shots from the turret unless he is like 350+ meters away from it only then can he can BARELY out run it Sharanga is even worse lmao, you cannot do ANYTHING about the turret.
Nodens is doomed against Sirius. it has less HP, way less speed, and the Sirius passive is a DIRECT counter to the suppression charge Nodens has for its only defense. Nodens cannot outrun the turret what-so-ever, Nodens has PITIFUL self healing, and looses to Sirius 90% of the time.
Im using a level 3 Sirius and I just recently killed a level 45 kid, a level 5 sirius (turret only lmao), and another level 4 kid.
Sirius is high B tier, no doubt about it.
Maybe b where you are, the thing is that in champion league there are zero kids, Arthurs, nodenses, sharangas or stuff like that. Luchas and rooks are the most common as well as Eiffels. Sirius is very slow, and the turret does absolutely nothing about a 1.4m hp lucha with reflectors on. Sirius also has very low firepower, and gets absolutely trashed by even a minos
@@wrleonardo That is true, but then ONLY Luchas, Rooks, and Eiffels can work, using ANYTHING other than those 3 or REALLY high level Minos works.
Well bedwyr works too, and almost any titan can beat a Sirius in a 1v1. The only ones it could beat are kid arthur ao ming and maybe nodens, others just trash the sirius
@@wrleonardo Im F2P, I have kid or Sirius... hoping for a Luchador or a Rook from the superchest!
Those both will be much better than sirius
I disagree with Indra being placed before Aether
Thanks for your opinion. However, the indra can't shoot while he's having resistance to damage like Minos or Luchador can.
@@wrleonardovery true that why i think vajras better for Indra
I still think Kid is better than Arthur. Will die on that hill 😆
I want to know your thoughts why's that, since I think it's good this way. Arthur does beat the kid, mostly thanks to constantly active alpha slot and the shields.
If you do not put luchador as the best old titan, you have problems.
It is one of the best ngl
i really like how you introduce every titan by mentioning their positives.
When the kid hp get to lower than 10% get additional movement speed its not a bug. Its funny how minos is S tier and indra isn't 😂 minos is so weak bro do U see any of them in CL, and you can't say rook is S and eiffel A brother check yourself
Thanks for the feedback! I have some videos of Minos on my channel, feel free to check em and you'll see why it's good. The reason why people don't use it is because it actually requires skill, and paying a bit more to get stronger, less-demanding options like Newton becomes more tempting. However, the thing is that Minos is a valuable, long-term titan, so it won't become useless after two months. Newton will.
@@wrleonardo i know that minos isn't a useless titan and its safe for a long term bc i was using minos and as fun as it to run him, he is not perfurming that good against anything without his reflector he is just a running titan. And no matter what you gonna say i will stick with what i said early indra is better then rook and minos. And i will check you minos vids.
@@mc_kaTsU Thanks again for your perspective on things! It is true, that especially when repair amps aren't fully stacked, the Minos isn't very powerful. Thanks for giving the videos a watch!
ngl indra is S tier its overpowered
It ain't overpowered, if it was then everyone in champs would use it
@@wrleonardo bruh i see indras in champions league every time and yes indra is s tier
@@Wr_editor I appreciate your opinion, and feel free to make a tier list of your own. Be prepared tho, this one took two weeks to put together
@@wrleonardo not just my opinion indra is very overpowered sometimes like people with the right build and right skills can beat eiffels my friend beat a rook and a lucha and a eiffel in a 3v1 with his indra and those titans were maxed
@@Wr_editor it's not overpowered, get over it already
What about bersagliere?
This video came out ages ago, I'm not updating the list for one video. It'd be A because it's good but slightly op, and impossible to get as f2p
@@wrleonardoI'm playing for free 😊
I thought, sirius stronger than ming
In terms of survivability, yes. But ming is a generalist so it can make great use of most weapons. Flying high is a good idea
Sirius in F but Kid in E.🤨🤨🤨
Kid has more firepower, it's affordable, and the ability damage is greater.
@@wrleonardo No.
Wdym no?
@@wrleonardo Because :1, the Kid can't use his alpha wepon all the time and 2, the Sirius have remote assault.
Sirius AT F tier?? ok im out sorry bye its ur opinion but it hurts
I'm sorry, but I knew there'd be someone who really likes Sirius. It's not possible to make a tier-list that everyone agrees on
Aether is worst than Sirius. WTF are you talking about? The reason aether is so bad is because aether’s ability in champions league is literally a death button.
Not quite, because he can attack like Murometz and fire the tonans from up high. Aether is much much better than sirius, just look at comparisons.
@@wrleonardo Think about you can get one or two picks than a close range titan or newton will just kill you in flight while muroments has stealth so you just can’t deal damage at all. And any ways the only thing keeping it alive or fulgar and tonans and they are to be nerfed to the ground so that will make aether even worse.
bro put luchador and minos S but indra B
Yes. The indra can't shoot while he's having resistance to damage like Minos or Luchador can.
@@wrleonardo but bro a titan that can phaseshift and if well built he can reach 1.2M HP while being the fastest titan, lasso deal 20% of ennemy HP that mean on a luchador for example its 300K damage
@@didirrr First off, if you use the veyron evora which is the best build, you lose the weapon acceleration when phase shifting. Secondly, Indra is far from the fastest titan, Minos easily takes the throne here. Thirdly, if 20% from Luchador's hp would be 300k, then he would have 1.5M max hp which is only possible if you run 3-4 Plated armor kits, which is very rare sight to see.
@@wrleonardo the best build for indra is ice rockets or vajras
@@wrleonardo and no luchador can reach 1.6M Hp with pilot skills