Product Links: Wyze Mesh Router Pro (2 Pack): amzn.to/42u6coA Dynalink Mesh WiFi 6E (AXE10200): amzn.to/3MRkSZx Google Nest WiFi Pro: amzn.to/3FCkWbS eero Pro 6E: amzn.to/3LEYvCJ ********************************************************************* TP-Link Deco XE200: amzn.to/3zsJkso Amazon Promo Code: 10LANDPET Start date: January 26, 2023 12:00:00 AM PST End date: May 26, 2023 11:59:59 PM PDT Discount per unit: 10% ********************************************************************* ASUS ZenWiFi ET12 (AXE11000): amzn.to/36VghCv Linksys Atlas Max 6E (2 Pack): amzn.to/3rzNcmR Netgear Orbi RBKE962 (AXE11000) 2 Pack: amzn.to/3LuoU9q As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.
Just installed TP-Link 2 days ago, AX5400 Deco X60 (3-packs), cover upto 7100 sq/ft of house area. So far so good! GOOD coverage even with only 1 mesh is switched on i/o all 3-units. .....................👍👍👍👍
I am using two eero pro 6e and have it wired back haul and it is rock solid with my 800Mbps download speed. I have one 6e device and getting 940Mbps down with it. I have nine Ethernet devices with a Netgear sixteen port switch that works great.
I recieved my eero pro 6 5 days ago. Haven't opened it yet and Im having second thoughts. Should I keep it or return it and get the deco xe75 pro? I'm planing on using it wirless but can run ethernet if needed.
I just got the ET12’s last week and have been very impressed with range and performance. I get about 1400mbps download from my Wi-Fi 6E capable Mac Mini (albeit on the 5Ghz channel). However, that is when connected to the main router. If the device hops over to the node with wireless backhaul, it’s a massive drop in speed - 500-700mbps down. Still very solid, but I’m going to get this set up with a wired backhaul and see how it treats me. Overall, I highly recommend this system. I had a Linksys Velop system before this and it didn’t even come close.
ET12 is a beast simply put and once you run wired backhaul, you should get the same speeds on the secondary nodes since it has the two fast 2.5Gbps ports. That's definitely in my top three of all mesh systems I've tested to date.
Interesting... I just got the ET12's last week as well. My internet is 1200/ 200, Xfinity claiming i get 1400 to their modem/ router. I only have 1 6e device and it gets close to gigabit speeds using ookla. I believe my wifi 6 devices get around 100mb less and currently wireless backhaul is around another 100mb less. Overall very good speeds. My issue is range to outdoors. Exterior walls really kills the signal. My node is on mid level against exterior wall and signal drops off a cliff, even at 20-40ft. Otherwise it's been flawless and now provides good enough speeds and coverage throughout the house and yards
@@INFRNL1 it would help if ASUS had a weatherproof product, wired or WiFi backhaul. The chicken wire used in stucco walls can really attenuate 5 and 6 GHz RF.
I don't think you're going to get fantastic WiFi meshing this side of infinity. However, it would be nice to have some "file server" results if at all an option, I used to buy the most expensive routers to share a drive let's say on their USB port and always got disappointed, is it possible these beasts have finally fixed their file sharing? The other thing which might take a pro (or someone with a lot of friends) would be to see how well does the meshing deliver over 2,3, infinite devices! When I did my tests TP delivered the best mesh (as in wifi-to-wifi-to-wifi), but things might have changed now that meshing is a default, not an exotic feature.
Yo!!!! Excellent Review!!!!!! I’m using three eero Pro 6E’s with about 50 devices with 1.2Gbps service as a stop gap for a couple of years until WiFi7 routers are ready for review.
@@landpet Wow, sooner than I expected. That should mean the routers should start hitting the market this time next year. I could comfortably settle in if eero would release a model with two 2.5Gbps ports so I accommodate my internet service, as well as feed 2.5Gbps backhaul and network switch.
Stability and consistency is the most important factor to me. 10 to 50 Mbps, more or less, doesn't really matter if packets are dropped occasionally, which is enough to kill the experience. Software updates are what make any hardware shines
I agree with you. I used to do speedtests using different platforms & jitter along with packet loss is more important. Fibers gives you faster uploads, but horrible for upload consistency. I tried Verizon 1 gig & had spectrum enterprise 1 gig. Without a doubt, spectrum enterprise was much more stable then fiberoptic in my area. Cloudflare speedtest gives you slightly more details than Okla.
We bought the Eero system first but had a problem connecting our Google Assistant pucks to the plugs we have our smart home system on. In short we couldn't control the lights because Eeros is a Amazon hub, not compatible with Google. I bought the 3 pk Nest system and we got it all working because it is a hub for Google. Since my speed is under 1 Gig we are covered very well in our home. I ordered a 1 Gig modem and when it comes I'll up my speed from my provider and we will be fine. I'm a Google guy so life is good for us now. I got the 3 pk for $299 on sale at the Google Store. Pretty good price too. Plus I now have a $30 credit for future purchases at the Google Store. Winner, winner.
I have a pair of the predecessor to the Linksys Atlas Max nodes, the Velop MX4200 which is only Wifi 6. I love these routers, they never drop out or randomly drop connections. I especially love the amount of ports on the nodes. Sure they are expensive but you get tons of LAN ports and USB 3.0 for something like a Time Machine server or a basic SMB file server. I imagine the Atlas Max nodes would be equally as reliable. They handle more than 20 devices every day and there are never any network slowdowns. We have a 500/500 Fiber connection and we have lots of WLAN activity with Plex, NAS operations, etc.
The linksys itself worked fine, I just think there are better choices for the price from testing the various routers, granted linksys works fine as well with a nice interface.
Your video is one of the best comparisons of 6E routers. I can see that it has an impact, and many have mentioned that they purchased Deco after watching you. However, there is a problem that you are not addressing when comparing routers. It's about how well they support IoT smart devices. Most use the 2.4GHz band. Of all the other routers, Deco has the most complaints about connection issues with smart devices. Deco plays nice with desktops, laptops, and Phones but not with smart bulbs, security cameras, doorbells, etc. You should address this in your video.
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't have any issues with any decos with any of my smart home devices. I have a ton of IoT devices from smart switches, smart plugs, and a lot of cameras. Literally zero issues connecting with them. Some of the decos also have an IoT wifi which I don't use but it's great for that. Why don't I use it? Because I'm changing routers so often that not everyone has an IoT wifi, hence all my stuff just connects to the main wifi or guest wifi.
Better range means you need fewer child nodes. You could very well need 3 or more of the others to get the same coverage as with the ASUS ZenWiFi ET-12 node set. Price for coverage matters.
Solid stuff. Gonna have to look at 6E more myself because in the Wyze specifically its $100 difference for that E version vs just 6 and with wifi7 in the pipeline is it even better to wait at this point. Another major concern with app based is subscription updates down the road so knowing some of these have web interfaces huge plus. Going to browse your channel for more information because you did that good of a job.
Hello. I just bought eero 6e. I have 1gig speed. For the router eero standing right next to it I get 700 to 800 megs. The other eero downstairs I get about 600 megs. Do you think it’s my modem which is from the cable company?? Not bad speeds but still not max. Thanks
You really need to do lots more testing with Netgear and Orbi. First in the past I had many ASUS routers and lots of bad results from ASUS. I moved to the Orbi RBK50, yes the first Orbi and had to firmware lock it, as newer firmware was garbage, causing drops a lot less WiFi coverage etc with a satellite. I returned that one and got another rbk50 then firmware locked it and it just ran with very very few reboots. Now 5 months ago I try the Orbi 960, 2 systems in two totally different locations. OMG What garbage the Orbi 960 is, both had problems, in one location it took the entire network down, the other the satellite was dropping . Netgear has taken away any way to lock the firmware down and Netgear DELETES any negative stuff said about their garbage on their forums! I replaced both systems with the ASUS ET12 and absolutely no other changes to the network or devices and both have been running solid with no reboots and better wifi than the Orbi 960 could ever get.
Thanks for the heads up, I’ve done quite a bit of testing with many of these systems but long term testing is difficult for me to do as I’m always changing mesh systems. Running the new Asus XD5 now.
Great video!; I have a question. I had an ORBI RBK753 that went kaput. I am planning on getting an RBKE962. Would I be able to use one of the old satellites with this new router?
Thanks! The Orbi's are more strict with combining other Orbi's. I don't know if those are compatible, probably not if I had to guess but I'm not sure. If you asked about the eero, the answer is yes if you asked about the deco, the answer is yes if you asked about Asus, the answer is yes assuming both Asus support AiMesh but Orbi is always a maybe not but I'm not sure.
I just switched to AT&T Fiber and their modem/router wont cover the 2nd story of the house well. I hooked up my older Orbi RBR20 to the AT&T box and seems alright. I have an ethernet port upstairs so I'm going to see if this Orbi will allow wired backhaul. Do you have any suggestions for improving the current setup? What would be a better option? Thanks in advance!
I have the eero mesh wifi system since the majority of my Alexa devices, or compatible with Alexa, such as Wyze and Google. Very easy setup if Amazon already knows your account.
What cable modem and WiFi mesh system do you recommend for the following? - wireless back haul - over 60 devices connected - 1G max speeds Cable - 3,000 sqft 2 story home no basement
What would you suggest for somebody that works from home and must be wired. My internet speed is 1gbs, I run a number of 4 k wireless cameras and lots of other wireless devices. I do more wireless than wired but I need both to be reliable.
Thanks for your video, may I know if you will make a comparison between Netgear RS700S and Tplink BE65 and TPlink BE85? Do you think RS700S or 1 router (not 2 or 3 mesh) TPlink Be65 is enough for a small flat like 500 square fit?
500 sq ft should easily be covered by just about any router especially these beefy WiFi 7 routers. I haven’t tested the RS700S or BE65 but if I get my hands on them, I will eventually do a WiFi 7 comparison video
I have frontier and I have 2gig speed. I also have Ethernet ports in five rooms that directly connect to my tvs and gaming systems, everything else is wireless. Which should I choose?
If you're going mostly wired, I would go with the Deco X55 Pro: amzn.to/3pDJMTg (it has 2 fast 2.5Gbps ports). If you don't mind spending more, I would move up to the ASUS ET12 Pro. But if you're going mostly wired, I would stick with the X55 Pro.
I have a tp-link deco mesh system which only has one log in for 2.4 and 5ghz. When I had an asus router before that it had separate log in for 2.4 and 5. With the asus mesh system does it work that way or like the tp-link? I prefer it doing it automatically if possible Instead of having 3 separate access log in points.
I’m currently using an Asus Zen Wi-Fi XT nine on 1.2 GB down and and 40 MB up the best speed I’ve received in the same room as the main router is 700 MBP down on 40 I have 40 devices primarily and Apple household in an order construction. Would you recommend upgrading to the ET 12 or staying with xt9
Only if you're running wired backhaul. The issue is that many wifi devices aren't able to go super fast and the public speed test server can also make a difference. I haven't seen enough of a difference between them other than wired backhaul (or if you want absurd range cause the ET12 is good in that regard as well) to recommend an upgrade. If you did want to upgrade though, I would suggest the Deco BE63, it's one of my new favorites but it doesn't have that many options like Asus does. Your wifi device you are testing with also makes a difference cause the XT9 is really a solid choice.
Again thank you I’ve gone with the TP Link BE63 and with my 14 I’m getting just shy of a gig download and up to 40mbps up in the same room and between 600 to 700 mbps a room or floor away a with wired back hall I’m matching being in the same room as the main. Good advice
Hi... I am looking at getting Echo speakers for my home in Puerto Rico. I was hoping to turn my home into a smart home with Alexa but range and concrete interference is an issue. I was told Echo w. Alexa works BEST with Eero where a Best Buy agent said it would be Lynksys Atas Max 6E. I was looking for Range and neither was mentioned here. Which would you think would be best to work with ALEXA that covered "good/excellent" range?
Depends how much you want to spend and how you want to setup the mesh (wired or wireless). If you’re going wired, get a budget system, even the eero 6+ will do great. If you’re running wireless backhaul and you want good speeds throughout, I would opt for something more expensive that provides better wireless backhaul speeds. To link deco XE75 is very good for the price, Asus XT9 is even better for not much more. Then you get to really good like the Orbi here or the insane Deco BE85. It just really depends on how big your place is, how fast your internet is, how many walls, etc. Echo speakers work well with any mesh system
Great video, have you done a comparison with some wifi 7 mesh routers yet? If not will you be doing one soon. I would be interested in seeing the performance difference between the better 6e routers and the various 7 routers recently released.
Thanks! I only have one WiFi 7 mesh system (Deco BE85) which I've reviewed but I'm waiting to get a few more before I do the comparison. But I can tell you right now, Deco BE85 is much better than anything here however it's not for everyone, it's really useful if you have very fast internet. For normal stuff, it's overkill to get that.
Wired backhaul allows you to pick just about any mesh system. Most of these will be great, I have long term tested deco systems and eero systems and nest WiFi. Asus and Netgear should be good as well but I would save money and get the deco xe75 or even deco x55 or eero 6+ if you’re under gigabit speeds
I’m looking for a new mesh system. Currently have eero pro 6, got about 150+ devices, and it’s overheating the eero’s. I have 1.2g down and 40g ups, using wired backhaul. Any recommendation? Thanks in advance for your time.
Thanks! I use a multiple asus model based mesh systems, IOT devices and Live streaming, two TVs and NAS and GBPS line, Mediocre connection speeds and lags. I have 30+ devices connected all the time. Should I move to Deco XE200 or XT12 - I really don't want to spend so much on this if possible. Keep up the good work!
You're welcome and thanks for the Super Thanks! Deco XE200 is a solid mesh system, I will say if you want to save money, the Deco XE75 (while not as good as the XE200) is not too far away and it does cost a lot less (and still my favorite budget system), again the XE200 is better but that's an option. Another one not here that did well is the ASUS XT9 for wireless backhaul speeds for less of a price compared to the XE200. I have videos on those as well, you can just skip to the numbers to see how well they did. ASUS XT9 = ruclips.net/video/q9tRuLLBuxk/видео.html Deco XE75 = ruclips.net/video/XgIPCeUfNUg/видео.html
@@landpet amazing, thanks for catering for the smaller creators man. highly appreciated that you have replied this fast. I have plan to increase the internet to 2GPBS in 6 months or so, will that be applicable for XT9 or XE75 - just wanted to be a bit prepared for the future speed. I am leaning towards XE200 for that scenario. Worth noting that my windows desktop for live streaming is directly wired to one of the node device.
Since you’re not going to do wired backhaul, the XE200 will be fine, XT9 should also be fine because it has 1 port that supports up to 2.5Gbps and you can also check out the Deco XE75 Pro (the pro version supports up to 2.5Gpbs). Again XE200 is the best choice but the other two are very good considering their price.
Can you do a test for multiple smart device connections? I noticed that the routers have different chipset/cpu and memory, so wondering which one performs better when there are over 50 devices hooked.
Hey there, Just found your channel. Great content by the way! Wondering if you could HELP me out. I am looking at getting a mesh system. Not sure what to get, though. Very large family with multiple streaming devices, 4 kids. Very old house, thick walls and most likely will need to be wireless connected. We have 1g fiber internet speed as of right now. I would like to stay around $100-$150 per unit price with probably 2-4 units needed to cover the house. Would you go with TP Link or a different brand. My friend told me to look at either Deco XE 75 Pro or Deco X95 but I thought I would check with you on your opinion. I saw the XE 75 Pro in in your videos but I never say the X95. If you know of a better option in that price range please let me know. Thank you for your time and wisdom.
Thanks. XE75 is the best for the price. You dont need the Pro variant since that just supports faster speeds of up to 2.5Gbps, the XE75 supports up to gigabit. Another really good one for the price is Asus XT9. Cant go wrong wither way. I havent tried the X95 so cant say one way or another.
Hello landlet, need your help, I'm not that technical person, going to move in a new house which is quite big and have 3 floors, here Internet plan is maximum 250Mbps, I'll go for 100Mbps now but will go for 250 in future, I can use wired backhaul for each router, which router should I buy to achieve full 250mbps in every corner of my house
TLDR: Deco XE75 is a great budget choice. ASUS ET12 should be a little better but costs more. If you are running wired, you can pretty much get any mesh WiFi. My favorite budget mesh system is the Deco XE75. Depending on how large your place is, I would start with the 3 pack and if you need more, you can add a couple more to it. Now with that said, there is no mesh WiFi that will give you max speeds everywhere in your house because the farther away you get the more the signal weakens which means you typically get less speeds until you get close to another node and then your speeds increase. Now from all my testing the ASUS ET12 Pro got the best range tests so this should in theory provide you with the best possible speeds when you are further away.
@@landpet should I buy Deco xe5300, I'm going to use wired backhaul or should I consider any older model? Budget is not an issue but looking for future proof thing
I just moved and I live in a area were there aren’t much options for Internet providers I had to go with T-Mobile home wifi it’s works decent for everything but gaming my highest signal is between weak and poor I was looking to someway of enhancing my signal for my gaming. Will any of these solve my problem ?
Routers improve the wifi signal in yourbhome. They do not boost your internet speeds, however if you have a not so good router thats decreasing your speeds, getting one of these will boost your speeds to try and get you as close to what tmobile internet speeds provide.
Can you please recommend the right device for me? I have a 4500 sq ft two stored house and the router sits at one corner of the house. My interest speed in 2 GHz. I plan to use wireless backhaul. I have about 45 devices connected including outdoor security cameras. I currently have Nest Wifi mesh. I work from home most of the time and since I sits in a room that is farthest from the router, my connection drops if I am doing a video call over Teams.
If money is no object, get a 2 pack TP Link Deco BE85 or 2 pack eero Max 7. 2 pack Deco XE200 is another good choice, not as good as the above but will still work very well. 2 pack Asus XT9 will also work well (3 pack would be even better) Any of the above choices will work much better than what you currently use.
Hello again, ladpet! So I jumped off the deep end and purchased the Orbi 970 because I wanted to juice up my home mesh network from Nest Pro. I have to admit it was a colossal failure. None of my nest/google products connected even though i chose the same SSID and password. In fact, I got so frustrated at trying to factory reset everything (and still couldn't get my Nest thermostats to connect), that I yanked out all the orbi product (i had the router and 3 satellites) and reinstalled the damn nest pro. And then I still had issues, so I deleted my entire home, factory reset everything, changed my SSID, and finally things started connecting again. Is this a known issue. I so much wanted the Orbi to work based on all the internet reviews, including yours, but just was a complete bust and I am now returning them unfortunately. Not sure what I expected, but for 3grand I was hoping everything would magically work. lol What advice do you have for me?
This happened to me a while ago with an eero router. I didn't realize the SSID was case sensitive until nothing was connecting to it, then it hit me. I have no issue with my 970, everything (about 80+ devices) connect without any issue. I swap routers all the time and have put the 970 back a few times, just used the 970 with my new access point review and no issue there either, almost all of them are plug and play when I pick the same SSID and password (again both are case sensitive). I should mention, sometimes older smart home devices have trouble connecting to a new router if their firmware is old since some of them don't like the wifi 6 signal. I realize Orbi 970 is wifi 7. So in the past, I've had to update my smart home devices with newer firmware (something I don't check often) and woala everything connects without issue.
@@landpet thanks for the reply! I was careful because of your video to exactly match the case of the SSID and the password. Therefore I am thinking has to be some combination of nest/google not playing nicely and firmware issues. Oh well. Maybe i'll give the Deco a try next because i am a glutton for punishment. :)
You're top 3 are my top 3. Honestly I would go with the Asus even though I absolutely hate their customer because it is Garbage but the hardware I have used has been solid.
If you run the Asus in bridge mode, it should connect however the asus will not show up in the deco app and it’s not something I recommend. I suggest sticking to one brand.
Can I get your advice , since I live in a villa with thick walls Should I get 4x google nest pro 2 downstairs 2 upstairs OR I should just get the Asus pack of 2 ? Am currently using amplify HD with 4 units 2 upstairs and 2 downstairs but they start to show their age. Your advice will be huge influence thanks
I would either get Deco XE75 3 pack or more or I would get an Asus XT9 3 pack or more. XT9 will probably be a little better because of the walls but both of these choices are good for the price.
@@landpet so I have been looking at your videos, I think I’ll go with the Wi-Fi 7 or the ASUS zen Wi-Fi 6E. I’ll sleep on it before I pull the trigger. Many thanks tho.
They basically are range extenders however mesh systems are designed and tested together so typically they perform better than a router and range extender.
For wired backhaul, you can get the cheapest one, even the X20 will be fine for those speeds. For wireless backhaul, BE85 would be the best but only if you want to spend the extra money, honestly the XE200 should perform fairly close to the BE85 for those speeds. I would only go for the BE85 if money is no object or you plan on getting faster internet in the future.
I got the Google WiFi Pro last week and it's not as good as I hoped. Speeds are fine but I've had to turn off WPA3 as it caused issues with my devices, and IPV6 flat out doesn't work. My Xbox Series X also only works on Ethernet, but, it's backhaul speed is very good. I believe it only uses WiFi 6E 160mhz. Not sure weather to send it back and keep my Eero Pro 6 which played up recently.
WPA3 is mostly for WiFi6E devices, I usually have it disabled for the 2.4GHz and 5GHz. I only use it for 6GHz devices since that's the only thing it supports. IPv6 in most places will not work unless you're in Japan and maybe a couple other places that I'm not aware of. In the US and many other places, we are on IPv4, so here is a sample Local IP Address 192.168.1.2
@@landpetMy IPV6 works perfectly fine, here in the UK most providers support it. Only a small handful don't. All the major suppliers support it. Just Google WiFi doesn't work with it, it used to for ages till Google stopped it citing compatibility issues, I had it on the OG Google WiFi for about 2 years fine then they stopped it working. It works fine on Eero. But I’m very mixed as to weather I keep the Google WiFi Pro or use the Eero Pro 6. I hope to get fibre broadband later in the year.
I have 3 acre’s and wanted the mess for the range of the system. I’ve had an older generation Orbi bit it would randomly drop wifi. When it worked it worked well. I switched to Asus and it works flawlessly. I have a unit upstairs, one on the first floor, one in a detached garage and one on a medal shed. I have coverage on my entire 3 acres. Good system! I live in rural Michigan so i can’t really flex it’s speed capabilities but as far as range it’s top notch
Is there a way to tell how stable they are? I'm coming from Google Nest, and it seems that my mesh is seriously dropping connections and underperforming on speedtests and I have to power them on and off multiple times to finally get them back online and working. I was looking at TP-Link Deco, but it seems like people have issues with them as well. I'm just tired of dealing with wifi troubleshooting when I work from home and I have other things to worry about besides wifi. If anyone knows about the stability of any of these products, I would love other people's comments. I hate turning on/off the wifi all the time...
I get a lot of comments and people have mentioned issues with just about every mesh I've tested and people have also praised just about every mesh I've tested. I will say from my personal experience, most mesh systems are good. Just depends on your budget and what your speeds, house size and whether you're running wired or wireless backhaul.
What i am most interested in is the way one configures these devices. I recently went to Fibre To The Property system in UK. The provider supplied Eero 6 pro x 2. What a terrible interface! No - i dont want to share even more private data with Amazon. You need my phone number? Oh - my mobile ran out of charge whilst i was configuring device. Wouldnt let me make a slave admin. No web UI - nearly impossible to admin on a Samsung s10e - which ironically got faster network speeds than.the S23! I only had it one day. I asked the ISP for details of suitable alternatives that i can plug into the ONT. Apparently there are none. I dont know in your setups if these meshes simply plug into the ONT or if you need to go via another device. So like i said - which of the devices have a non locked down admin UI, will allow openVPN, allow network gateway to be configured (we eventually got the Eero of 4.1 but I lost confidence in the ISPs ability to support me so cancelled. Looking for better ISP and better router. Will look at the Asus.
You need something more powerful in that case if you're not planning on running ethernet cables. On the more budget side, I would try the ASUS XT9, the more expensive ones like the Orbi RBKE963 will also do just fine.
I had a mini wifi 7 update ( ruclips.net/video/Zw1QeZLg3E0/видео.html ) but the bigger one is coming end of next month or early July, I've been waiting for the ASUS mesh system but if I don't get it by July, I'll make the video without it. I will have another Deco Wifi comparison which will include a number of wifi 7 systems by TP-Link
All the reviewers are missing the point of the mesh system... connect 150 plus devices and then do a test over a week to see how the they all fair, how many loose connections?
Hey, new subscriber here. I'm hoping you can point me in the right direction. Hopefully you have a video or a few that can help or if not can you recommend how to find someone locally to fix my WiFi. I'm clueless as what kind of tech to even call. I have Xfinity with a 1 GB plan that usually has a 1.3 GB speed. I have a Linksys MX 8500 mesh system (3) with both being wired back hauled. I have 50 to 65 things connected at any given time (12 nest cameras). Everything has been rock solid for about 18 months. About 3 weeks ago my nest cameras started to constantly go on and offline non stop. All my other nest products, TV's, kitchen appliances, computers and etc... Don't seem to be having any problems. I bought a new nest pro 4 pack from Costco and exchanged modem with Xfinity and still having camera issues. Do you have any videos on this subject or do you know what type of professional I can search for on Google? Thanks for any advice
Thanks for subscribing! Have you tried restarting the nest cameras? If that doesn’t help, I would try to perform a factory reset on each and reconnect them. As far as a specific person to call, my goto would be to call nest directly which is owned by google now.
Which one of these mesh allows you to name 2.4 and 5.0 with different names? The reason is when you buy one of those light bulbs or outlets that only work on 2.4 it's easier to pick the 2.4 by name to connect. If both are named, the same router will try to make it connect to 5.0 which will not work. I know some routes let you use different names, and some don't. Do you have a list of which router or mesh system lets your name each 2.4 and 5.0 different. I know my EA9500 linksys does but the guest network no longer works so look for new router or mesh. I want one that guest network works and can name different 2.4 and 5.0. Thanks for anyone help.
@@ammotroop9708 Yes, ASUS mesh systems support it 100%. The netgear one I kind of remember the web interface having that option but I'm not 100% on that.
Would of been nice to know which ones support VLAN, to isolate devices on the same SSID and network. I know Orbi doesn’t support it, even with that ridiculous price
@@gustavorlopez Yes, it has WiFi 6, I have it and it gives WiFi 5 speeds in my case(no difference at all from RBK50) - pretty guaranteed to drop the channel width once you add more devices to it and gives you zero control over that...
I have the ET12 Pro system and it crashes daily where wired AND wireless devices are unable to connect. Even the Asus router page doesn't load. Only way to restore connectivity is by rebooting the router. Do yourselves a favour and go with another brand.
Question: If I'm on an old Google Wifi Mesh, and I get the TP Link Deco, I'm guessing they can't work together to create a wider mesh, right? Alternatively, would I be able to use an unamanged switch to connect the Google hubs to the switch and create a separate mesh or woukd that mess with the frequencies of the new mesh?
I’ll take the EERO pro 6 or 6e any day. EERO just works. My inter speeds at 1gbps, and it gives 1gbps. There are constant security updates and the updates are completed within 2-3 minutes. It never goes down and offers a ton of security features. I don’t think I’ll ever buy another brand after getting the EEROs for free from my ISP. ORBI was always nothing but problems and so overpriced! $1000 for a system is insane and they know it.
Man I’ve been down this rabbit hole for a month now. I have a 2.5 GB/sec AT&T fiber package and in my situation it all comes down to this. They are all garbage. I now just got the TP-Link BE9300 because of the two 2.5 GB ports and the multiple antennas “AND” it is WiFi 7. - The 5ghz band is stronger giving me about 1100 mb/sec in close’ish range. - The 6 GHz band is absolutely useless and no faster if not slower than the 5ghz and that is only if you are literally standing next to the router. - So am at a loss. I guess if you buy 2 or 3 WiFi 7 units that are $600 a piece and wire backhauk then all tighter in a 2400 sq fr. house you might be ok. But not for $2000. Our current available internet speeds are far surpassing the hardware available at this point in time to try and even remotely get close to what you are paying for wirelessly. I’m at a loss on this whole network setup. Almost to the point of thing up. Wire speed gets fly to 2600’ish MB/sec. But the wireless router has been a dead end for me so far.
@@landpet I think it would make for a killer video. Almost no videos on it on RUclips and I think some of the super high end gaming routers could out do a lot of these Mesh ones.
Interesting no notification on your video until now. It still blows my mind that there isn't symmetry with the ethernet ports, in other words, at least two fast ports with at least 2.5GbE. The dumbest that I see is 10GbE with all others 1GbE! Literally it's insulting, most of these are insulting in fact. Still waiting for the Wi-Fi 7 models...
.. BTW Frontier FiOS just offered 5Gbps internet in my area. To be clear, I have a UniFi system. However, I'm always passionate about this stuff. When you have four adults and two grandchildren under your roof and everybody streams and games .. it's more about latency, minimum bandwidth and uptime.
That is interesting, with the notifications on, it should alert you. I'm with you on the multiple fast ports, even though one can argue against it since there are some benefits but at the end of the day, there should be at least 2 fast ports. I have Frontier, they recently started offering 5Gbps in my area as well. I'm considering it, the issue from my perspective though is that I test mesh systems with gigabit ports, so I'll be capped while I test those things out. The upside is, I would like to see how fast the wifi internet speeds will be.
@@landpet .. There's no point in getting 5 gigabit internet if it's just something to brag about because nobody cares. You're the one that stuck with the bill. I can easily justify 1 gigabit and the price is as you know reasonable. So unless you have multiple and frequent large file downloads from multiple simultaneous sources, you'll see little benefit not to mention many websites cap your download speeds anyway.
I've got the Google wifi mesh, not the pro. It only has wireless backhaul and it's absolutely trash. Sure I get good wifi signal through the house but the backhaul makes 1080p video inconsistent.
I recommend watching this video: Network 101 | Simplified explanation of a Computer Network ruclips.net/video/90BFxA2yEUY/видео.html Then watching this one: TP Link Deco X4300 Pro Setup Guide | FAQ's Answered | All Configs Shown including MoCA Adapter ruclips.net/video/JfsbmtGFd4o/видео.html After these two videos, you should have a good understanding of networks
netgear is the most hackable hardware ......asus has the most buggy firmware trust I ha e this issue now on a gt-ax11000..... tp link just makes you pay a subscription for advanced features like vpn pass though needed for att fiber .....just saying ....im so torn
Thanks for the info! Nothing is going to be perfect, in some of my videos, people mention that eero drops signals, in others Orbi drops, in others nest wifi drops and so on. I only go off my test results. The other thing is, I'm constantly changing mesh systems so I typically test things for 2 to 4 weeks, sometimes less, sometimes more but typically in that ballpark.
lol, I don't use it with the subscription and it works great. eero also needs a subscription for extra features but again, if that's what you're after, I would go with ASUS. I chose the Orbi for the best overall performance and it has the best combination of ethernet ports among other things.
@@landpet I decided to go with the TP-Link Deco XE-75. With wifi 7 out within a year I decided not to go crazy. The deco was on sale. The 3 piece orbi is $2700 in Australia. The Asus ET12 isn't even available here. I can get a 2 pack from the UK Amazon for $1500 Australian. The 2 pack E75 cost me $690. Pretty significant difference.
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Just installed TP-Link 2 days ago, AX5400 Deco X60 (3-packs), cover upto 7100 sq/ft of house area.
So far so good!
GOOD coverage even with only 1 mesh is switched on i/o all 3-units. .....................👍👍👍👍
I am using two eero pro 6e and have it wired back haul and it is rock solid with my 800Mbps download speed. I have one 6e device and getting 940Mbps down with it. I have nine Ethernet devices with a Netgear sixteen port switch that works great.
It's smooth sailin for wired backhaul with the eero or any other mesh really. Thanks for the feedback!
I recieved my eero pro 6 5 days ago. Haven't opened it yet and Im having second thoughts. Should I keep it or return it and get the deco xe75 pro? I'm planing on using it wirless but can run ethernet if needed.
I just got the ET12’s last week and have been very impressed with range and performance. I get about 1400mbps download from my Wi-Fi 6E capable Mac Mini (albeit on the 5Ghz channel). However, that is when connected to the main router. If the device hops over to the node with wireless backhaul, it’s a massive drop in speed - 500-700mbps down. Still very solid, but I’m going to get this set up with a wired backhaul and see how it treats me. Overall, I highly recommend this system. I had a Linksys Velop system before this and it didn’t even come close.
ET12 is a beast simply put and once you run wired backhaul, you should get the same speeds on the secondary nodes since it has the two fast 2.5Gbps ports. That's definitely in my top three of all mesh systems I've tested to date.
Interesting...
I just got the ET12's last week as well.
My internet is 1200/ 200, Xfinity claiming i get 1400 to their modem/ router.
I only have 1 6e device and it gets close to gigabit speeds using ookla.
I believe my wifi 6 devices get around 100mb less and currently wireless backhaul is around another 100mb less. Overall very good speeds.
My issue is range to outdoors. Exterior walls really kills the signal. My node is on mid level against exterior wall and signal drops off a cliff, even at 20-40ft.
Otherwise it's been flawless and now provides good enough speeds and coverage throughout the house and yards
@@INFRNL1 it would help if ASUS had a weatherproof product, wired or WiFi backhaul. The chicken wire used in stucco walls can really attenuate 5 and 6 GHz RF.
I don't think you're going to get fantastic WiFi meshing this side of infinity. However, it would be nice to have some "file server" results if at all an option, I used to buy the most expensive routers to share a drive let's say on their USB port and always got disappointed, is it possible these beasts have finally fixed their file sharing? The other thing which might take a pro (or someone with a lot of friends) would be to see how well does the meshing deliver over 2,3, infinite devices! When I did my tests TP delivered the best mesh (as in wifi-to-wifi-to-wifi), but things might have changed now that meshing is a default, not an exotic feature.
Yo!!!! Excellent Review!!!!!! I’m using three eero Pro 6E’s with about 50 devices with 1.2Gbps service as a stop gap for a couple of years until WiFi7 routers are ready for review.
Thanks! Sounds like a good setup. WiFi 7 coming this summer I believe
@@landpet Wow, sooner than I expected. That should mean the routers should start hitting the market this time next year. I could comfortably settle in if eero would release a model with two 2.5Gbps ports so I accommodate my internet service, as well as feed 2.5Gbps backhaul and network switch.
I proclaim you as Router King 👑
Lol thanks!
Martin Router King 😊
I second this!
Long live the king
Stability and consistency is the most important factor to me. 10 to 50 Mbps, more or less, doesn't really matter if packets are dropped occasionally, which is enough to kill the experience. Software updates are what make any hardware shines
I didn't notice any drops with anything from this list.
I agree with you. I used to do speedtests using different platforms & jitter along with packet loss is more important. Fibers gives you faster uploads, but horrible for upload consistency. I tried Verizon 1 gig & had spectrum enterprise 1 gig. Without a doubt, spectrum enterprise was much more stable then fiberoptic in my area. Cloudflare speedtest gives you slightly more details than Okla.
@@landpetwhat’s going on i expected you to do tp-link Wi-Fi 7 router review
Orbi has horrible stability. I have tried so many different variations and it just isn’t as reliable.
@@kriss.8535in a anorher review. They give to orbi 1 place. Never understand how is the same thing good and bad
We bought the Eero system first but had a problem connecting our Google Assistant pucks to the plugs we have our smart home system on. In short we couldn't control the lights because Eeros is a Amazon hub, not compatible with Google. I bought the 3 pk Nest system and we got it all working because it is a hub for Google. Since my speed is under 1 Gig we are covered very well in our home. I ordered a 1 Gig modem and when it comes I'll up my speed from my provider and we will be fine. I'm a Google guy so life is good for us now. I got the 3 pk for $299 on sale at the Google Store. Pretty good price too. Plus I now have a $30 credit for future purchases at the Google Store. Winner, winner.
I have a pair of the predecessor to the Linksys Atlas Max nodes, the Velop MX4200 which is only Wifi 6. I love these routers, they never drop out or randomly drop connections. I especially love the amount of ports on the nodes. Sure they are expensive but you get tons of LAN ports and USB 3.0 for something like a Time Machine server or a basic SMB file server. I imagine the Atlas Max nodes would be equally as reliable. They handle more than 20 devices every day and there are never any network slowdowns. We have a 500/500 Fiber connection and we have lots of WLAN activity with Plex, NAS operations, etc.
The linksys itself worked fine, I just think there are better choices for the price from testing the various routers, granted linksys works fine as well with a nice interface.
@@landpet Oh totally! The Linksys nodes are very expensive! Thanks for the comparison.
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It's too bad TP-Link doesn't realize many people want four ethernet ports for things like the Phillips hue hub, Sonos bridge, home security hub, etc.
This was also my issue using google wifi mest networks, needing an additional switch looks kinda ugly lol
They have it out now WiFi 7 tp link
Your video is one of the best comparisons of 6E routers. I can see that it has an impact, and many have mentioned that they purchased Deco after watching you. However, there is a problem that you are not addressing when comparing routers. It's about how well they support IoT smart devices. Most use the 2.4GHz band. Of all the other routers, Deco has the most complaints about connection issues with smart devices. Deco plays nice with desktops, laptops, and Phones but not with smart bulbs, security cameras, doorbells, etc. You should address this in your video.
Thanks for the feedback.
I personally don't have any issues with any decos with any of my smart home devices. I have a ton of IoT devices from smart switches, smart plugs, and a lot of cameras. Literally zero issues connecting with them. Some of the decos also have an IoT wifi which I don't use but it's great for that.
Why don't I use it? Because I'm changing routers so often that not everyone has an IoT wifi, hence all my stuff just connects to the main wifi or guest wifi.
Better range means you need fewer child nodes. You could very well need 3 or more of the others to get the same coverage as with the ASUS ZenWiFi ET-12 node set. Price for coverage matters.
Correct
Solid stuff. Gonna have to look at 6E more myself because in the Wyze specifically its $100 difference for that E version vs just 6 and with wifi7 in the pipeline is it even better to wait at this point. Another major concern with app based is subscription updates down the road so knowing some of these have web interfaces huge plus. Going to browse your channel for more information because you did that good of a job.
Thanks
I bought into the EERO system, and it's flawless so far.
Eeros are vety stable
Hello. I just bought eero 6e. I have 1gig speed. For the router eero standing right next to it I get 700 to 800 megs. The other eero downstairs I get about 600 megs. Do you think it’s my modem which is from the cable company?? Not bad speeds but still not max. Thanks
Do you have an opinion on Synology wifi routers?
Complete and comprehensive video. I will use this to make my next purchase over the next week.
Thanks!
You really need to do lots more testing with Netgear and Orbi.
First in the past I had many ASUS routers and lots of bad results from ASUS.
I moved to the Orbi RBK50, yes the first Orbi and had to firmware lock it, as newer firmware was garbage, causing drops a lot less WiFi coverage etc with a satellite.
I returned that one and got another rbk50 then firmware locked it and it just ran with very very few reboots.
Now 5 months ago I try the Orbi 960, 2 systems in two totally different locations.
OMG What garbage the Orbi 960 is, both had problems, in one location it took the entire network down, the other the satellite was dropping . Netgear has taken away any way to lock the firmware down and Netgear DELETES any negative stuff said about their garbage on their forums!
I replaced both systems with the ASUS ET12 and absolutely no other changes to the network or devices and both have been running solid with no reboots and better wifi than the Orbi 960 could ever get.
Thanks for the heads up, I’ve done quite a bit of testing with many of these systems but long term testing is difficult for me to do as I’m always changing mesh systems. Running the new Asus XD5 now.
Currently have the xe75 pro but the lack of hostname support has now caused a big issue for us. Any suggestions?
Great video! Can't wait until you get your hands on and hear your thoughts for the Deco BE95.
Thanks! and neither can I. I really want to see what WiFi 7 is capable of, based on its specs, I'm expecting impressive speeds
After watching your video I could decide what to buy without any hassle. Decco! Thank you so much!
Glad I could help!
Great video!; I have a question. I had an ORBI RBK753 that went kaput. I am planning on getting an RBKE962. Would I be able to use one of the old satellites with this new router?
Thanks! The Orbi's are more strict with combining other Orbi's. I don't know if those are compatible, probably not if I had to guess but I'm not sure.
If you asked about the eero, the answer is yes
if you asked about the deco, the answer is yes
if you asked about Asus, the answer is yes assuming both Asus support AiMesh
but Orbi is always a maybe not but I'm not sure.
I just switched to AT&T Fiber and their modem/router wont cover the 2nd story of the house well. I hooked up my older Orbi RBR20 to the AT&T box and seems alright. I have an ethernet port upstairs so I'm going to see if this Orbi will allow wired backhaul. Do you have any suggestions for improving the current setup? What would be a better option? Thanks in advance!
I have the eero mesh wifi system since the majority of my Alexa devices, or compatible with Alexa, such as Wyze and Google. Very easy setup if Amazon already knows your account.
Using a deco to link x60 3 pack for about a year, best experience on my life my house is 2000 sqf
Deco's are really great systems, most of them that I've tested.
What cable modem and WiFi mesh system do you recommend for the following?
- wireless back haul
- over 60 devices connected
- 1G max speeds Cable
- 3,000 sqft 2 story home no basement
TP Link Deco XE75 (2 or 3 pack) or ASUS XT9 (2 or 3 pack)
The sunglasses tan made me chuckle a bit. Been there lol. Great video by the way my house doesnt have any ethernet wiring so ill need this !!
nice!
What would you suggest for somebody that works from home and must be wired. My internet speed is 1gbs, I run a number of 4 k wireless cameras and lots of other wireless devices. I do more wireless than wired but I need both to be reliable.
Thanks for your video, may I know if you will make a comparison between Netgear RS700S and Tplink BE65 and TPlink BE85? Do you think RS700S or 1 router (not 2 or 3 mesh) TPlink Be65 is enough for a small flat like 500 square fit?
500 sq ft should easily be covered by just about any router especially these beefy WiFi 7 routers. I haven’t tested the RS700S or BE65 but if I get my hands on them, I will eventually do a WiFi 7 comparison video
@@landpet thank you
I have frontier and I have 2gig speed. I also have Ethernet ports in five rooms that directly connect to my tvs and gaming systems, everything else is wireless. Which should I choose?
If you're going mostly wired, I would go with the Deco X55 Pro: amzn.to/3pDJMTg (it has 2 fast 2.5Gbps ports). If you don't mind spending more, I would move up to the ASUS ET12 Pro. But if you're going mostly wired, I would stick with the X55 Pro.
Thank you so much for putting up such a comprehensive Wi-Fi review video!
You are welcome!
Please are there alternatives for the ET12's for those who need dual 5ghz bands for wired backhaul as WiFi 6 isn't available in certain countries?
XT12
I have a tp-link deco mesh system which only has one log in for 2.4 and 5ghz. When I had an asus router before that it had separate log in for 2.4 and 5. With the asus mesh system does it work that way or like the tp-link? I prefer it doing it automatically if possible Instead of having 3 separate access log in points.
Excelent review. What if you have 300 mbps intenet and want a wired backhaul? Thanks
Thanks! It depends on you but you can go for the less expensive options like the deco x20, x55 or eero 6+
@@landpet Thank you! not the google nest pro?
I’m currently using an Asus Zen Wi-Fi XT nine on 1.2 GB down and and 40 MB up the best speed I’ve received in the same room as the main router is 700 MBP down on 40 I have 40 devices primarily and Apple household in an order construction. Would you recommend upgrading to the ET 12 or staying with xt9
Only if you're running wired backhaul. The issue is that many wifi devices aren't able to go super fast and the public speed test server can also make a difference. I haven't seen enough of a difference between them other than wired backhaul (or if you want absurd range cause the ET12 is good in that regard as well) to recommend an upgrade. If you did want to upgrade though, I would suggest the Deco BE63, it's one of my new favorites but it doesn't have that many options like Asus does. Your wifi device you are testing with also makes a difference cause the XT9 is really a solid choice.
@@landpet thank you
Again thank you I’ve gone with the TP Link BE63 and with my 14 I’m getting just shy of a gig download and up to 40mbps up in the same room and between 600 to 700 mbps a room or floor away a with wired back hall I’m matching being in the same room as the main. Good advice
Hi... I am looking at getting Echo speakers for my home in Puerto Rico. I was hoping to turn my home into a smart home with Alexa but range and concrete interference is an issue. I was told Echo w. Alexa works BEST with Eero where a Best Buy agent said it would be Lynksys Atas Max 6E. I was looking for Range and neither was mentioned here.
Which would you think would be best to work with ALEXA that covered "good/excellent" range?
Depends how much you want to spend and how you want to setup the mesh (wired or wireless).
If you’re going wired, get a budget system, even the eero 6+ will do great. If you’re running wireless backhaul and you want good speeds throughout, I would opt for something more expensive that provides better wireless backhaul speeds. To link deco XE75 is very good for the price, Asus XT9 is even better for not much more. Then you get to really good like the Orbi here or the insane Deco BE85. It just really depends on how big your place is, how fast your internet is, how many walls, etc.
Echo speakers work well with any mesh system
Great video, have you done a comparison with some wifi 7 mesh routers yet? If not will you be doing one soon. I would be interested in seeing the performance difference between the better 6e routers and the various 7 routers recently released.
Thanks! I only have one WiFi 7 mesh system (Deco BE85) which I've reviewed but I'm waiting to get a few more before I do the comparison. But I can tell you right now, Deco BE85 is much better than anything here however it's not for everyone, it's really useful if you have very fast internet. For normal stuff, it's overkill to get that.
What’s the best mesh wifi for wired back haul, ease of setup and reliability
Wired backhaul allows you to pick just about any mesh system. Most of these will be great, I have long term tested deco systems and eero systems and nest WiFi. Asus and Netgear should be good as well but I would save money and get the deco xe75 or even deco x55 or eero 6+ if you’re under gigabit speeds
Excellent Review, thank you !
You are welcome!
How many devices do each carry? I have a lot of smart systems, lights etc...
i have around 80 devices or so (smart light switches, cameras, laptops, desktops, streaming, consoles, etc.) and all of these are fine.
I’m looking for a new mesh system. Currently have eero pro 6, got about 150+ devices, and it’s overheating the eero’s. I have 1.2g down and 40g ups, using wired backhaul. Any recommendation?
Thanks in advance for your time.
I would try the Deco XE200.
Hi, really insightful video. Big thumbs up. What's the best budget WiFi 6E router / which would you buy for less than $300?
Deco XE75
@@landpet - Thank you sir.
Thanks! I use a multiple asus model based mesh systems, IOT devices and Live streaming, two TVs and NAS and GBPS line, Mediocre connection speeds and lags. I have 30+ devices connected all the time. Should I move to Deco XE200 or XT12 - I really don't want to spend so much on this if possible. Keep up the good work!
Unfortunately - I do not have options for wired backhaul.
You're welcome and thanks for the Super Thanks!
Deco XE200 is a solid mesh system, I will say if you want to save money, the Deco XE75 (while not as good as the XE200) is not too far away and it does cost a lot less (and still my favorite budget system), again the XE200 is better but that's an option. Another one not here that did well is the ASUS XT9 for wireless backhaul speeds for less of a price compared to the XE200. I have videos on those as well, you can just skip to the numbers to see how well they did.
ASUS XT9 = ruclips.net/video/q9tRuLLBuxk/видео.html
Deco XE75 = ruclips.net/video/XgIPCeUfNUg/видео.html
@@landpet amazing, thanks for catering for the smaller creators man. highly appreciated that you have replied this fast. I have plan to increase the internet to 2GPBS in 6 months or so, will that be applicable for XT9 or XE75 - just wanted to be a bit prepared for the future speed. I am leaning towards XE200 for that scenario. Worth noting that my windows desktop for live streaming is directly wired to one of the node device.
Since you’re not going to do wired backhaul, the XE200 will be fine, XT9 should also be fine because it has 1 port that supports up to 2.5Gbps and you can also check out the Deco XE75 Pro (the pro version supports up to 2.5Gpbs). Again XE200 is the best choice but the other two are very good considering their price.
Am I looking at your results wrong? To me it appeared your results showed the TP Link had better range than the ET12.
I remember the et12 having the highest numbers at the farthest range, I hadn’t seen any mesh system that good before.
Why do some of those routers have only two LAN ports? Which basically means they only have one LAN port as the other is to connect to the modem.
I recently got fiber optic internet available in my neighborhood. Thinking about making the switch. Do these mesh routers work for fiber?
Yes, I'm on Fiber and they all work without issues.
@@landpet thanks man! Think I’m gonna go with the Deco 200.
Can you do a test for multiple smart device connections? I noticed that the routers have different chipset/cpu and memory, so wondering which one performs better when there are over 50 devices hooked.
Or 100
I have around 70 devices (including smart home devices) and I don't remember any of them giving me issues.
I grabbed a ORBI, sata's wouldn't connect, 2/4 finally worked after 2 hours, speed was 115 down 15 up, lol never again
Could you please recommend a device for me? 2100sqft, finished basement, 1200mb internet, wireless connection. Thank you
TP-Link's Deco BE63 Mesh System
ruclips.net/video/24W2jqFxJ4g/видео.html
Security wise...what router do you recommend?
They’re all good, have built in firewalls. If I had to pick one, I may go with asus since they offer additional protection at no addition cost.
Hey there,
Just found your channel. Great content by the way! Wondering if you could HELP me out.
I am looking at getting a mesh system. Not sure what to get, though. Very large family with multiple streaming devices, 4 kids. Very old house, thick walls and most likely will need to be wireless connected. We have 1g fiber internet speed as of right now. I would like to stay around $100-$150 per unit price with probably 2-4 units needed to cover the house. Would you go with TP Link or a different brand. My friend told me to look at either Deco XE 75 Pro or Deco X95 but I thought I would check with you on your opinion. I saw the XE 75 Pro in in your videos but I never say the X95. If you know of a better option in that price range please let me know. Thank you for your time and wisdom.
Thanks.
XE75 is the best for the price. You dont need the Pro variant since that just supports faster speeds of up to 2.5Gbps, the XE75 supports up to gigabit.
Another really good one for the price is Asus XT9.
Cant go wrong wither way.
I havent tried the X95 so cant say one way or another.
@@landpet Thank you! I absolutely appreciate you taking the time to respond back!
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Hello landlet, need your help, I'm not that technical person, going to move in a new house which is quite big and have 3 floors, here Internet plan is maximum 250Mbps, I'll go for 100Mbps now but will go for 250 in future, I can use wired backhaul for each router, which router should I buy to achieve full 250mbps in every corner of my house
TLDR: Deco XE75 is a great budget choice. ASUS ET12 should be a little better but costs more.
If you are running wired, you can pretty much get any mesh WiFi. My favorite budget mesh system is the Deco XE75. Depending on how large your place is, I would start with the 3 pack and if you need more, you can add a couple more to it.
Now with that said, there is no mesh WiFi that will give you max speeds everywhere in your house because the farther away you get the more the signal weakens which means you typically get less speeds until you get close to another node and then your speeds increase. Now from all my testing the ASUS ET12 Pro got the best range tests so this should in theory provide you with the best possible speeds when you are further away.
@@landpet thanks man, I'm thinking of Deco Xe5300
@@landpet should I buy Deco xe5300, I'm going to use wired backhaul or should I consider any older model?
Budget is not an issue but looking for future proof thing
I just moved and I live in a area were there aren’t much options for Internet providers I had to go with T-Mobile home wifi it’s works decent for everything but gaming my highest signal is between weak and poor I was looking to someway of enhancing my signal for my gaming. Will any of these solve my problem ?
Routers improve the wifi signal in yourbhome. They do not boost your internet speeds, however if you have a not so good router thats decreasing your speeds, getting one of these will boost your speeds to try and get you as close to what tmobile internet speeds provide.
@@landpet thank you
Can you please recommend the right device for me? I have a 4500 sq ft two stored house and the router sits at one corner of the house. My interest speed in 2 GHz. I plan to use wireless backhaul. I have about 45 devices connected including outdoor security cameras.
I currently have Nest Wifi mesh. I work from home most of the time and since I sits in a room that is farthest from the router, my connection drops if I am doing a video call over Teams.
If money is no object, get a 2 pack TP Link Deco BE85 or 2 pack eero Max 7.
2 pack Deco XE200 is another good choice, not as good as the above but will still work very well.
2 pack Asus XT9 will also work well (3 pack would be even better)
Any of the above choices will work much better than what you currently use.
@@landpet thank you so much! Happy Thanksgiving!
Can you hook a eero mesh system up to a Netgear nighthawk M6 pro?
what do you recommend if I have a less than 1 gb speed and a wireless network?
Deco XE75 is my budget choice, one step above that is the ASUS XT9 which is better but costs a bit more.
@@landpet Thank you, as of today the XT9 is cheaper in amazon than XE75, so should I go for the asus?
@@msciarra I would
Excellent Review!!!!
Thanks!
Hello again, ladpet! So I jumped off the deep end and purchased the Orbi 970 because I wanted to juice up my home mesh network from Nest Pro. I have to admit it was a colossal failure. None of my nest/google products connected even though i chose the same SSID and password. In fact, I got so frustrated at trying to factory reset everything (and still couldn't get my Nest thermostats to connect), that I yanked out all the orbi product (i had the router and 3 satellites) and reinstalled the damn nest pro. And then I still had issues, so I deleted my entire home, factory reset everything, changed my SSID, and finally things started connecting again. Is this a known issue. I so much wanted the Orbi to work based on all the internet reviews, including yours, but just was a complete bust and I am now returning them unfortunately. Not sure what I expected, but for 3grand I was hoping everything would magically work. lol What advice do you have for me?
This happened to me a while ago with an eero router. I didn't realize the SSID was case sensitive until nothing was connecting to it, then it hit me.
I have no issue with my 970, everything (about 80+ devices) connect without any issue. I swap routers all the time and have put the 970 back a few times, just used the 970 with my new access point review and no issue there either, almost all of them are plug and play when I pick the same SSID and password (again both are case sensitive).
I should mention, sometimes older smart home devices have trouble connecting to a new router if their firmware is old since some of them don't like the wifi 6 signal. I realize Orbi 970 is wifi 7. So in the past, I've had to update my smart home devices with newer firmware (something I don't check often) and woala everything connects without issue.
@@landpet thanks for the reply! I was careful because of your video to exactly match the case of the SSID and the password. Therefore I am thinking has to be some combination of nest/google not playing nicely and firmware issues. Oh well. Maybe i'll give the Deco a try next because i am a glutton for punishment. :)
@landpet I already have a router and just need one 6e ap and not a mesh. Wiil backhaul with cat 6e cable @ 2.5g. Will any of these work?
You can get a Deco X55 Pro or XE75 pro and run it in access point mode in the advanced section of the app.
Thanks but I need a wall mount 6e AP@@landpet
I absolutely love your videos! Can you wire backhaul an eero 6 with the tp link deco x75 pro mesh system? Does that even work?
Thank you
Thanks! If you run the secondary router in bridge or access point mode it should work but I don’t recommend it.
@@landpet thank you for the advice. Love watching your videos. Incredibly informative.
I want to keep my Untangle hardware that takes care of the router functions. Can I still use a mesh system?
Yes, you would need to run the mesh system in access point mode or bridge mode
What is your opinion of the TP-Link Deco X55? Thanks
Very nice review!
Thanks!
You're top 3 are my top 3. Honestly I would go with the Asus even though I absolutely hate their customer because it is Garbage but the hardware I have used has been solid.
Nice!
is it possible to connect 2 mesh systems to 1? like if i have tp- link deco 5 and i whant to add asus, will it be one mesh system?
If you run the Asus in bridge mode, it should connect however the asus will not show up in the deco app and it’s not something I recommend. I suggest sticking to one brand.
Thanks for the review
Any time!
Can I get your advice , since I live in a villa with thick walls
Should I get 4x google nest pro 2 downstairs 2 upstairs OR I should just get the Asus pack of 2 ?
Am currently using amplify HD with 4 units 2 upstairs and 2 downstairs but they start to show their age.
Your advice will be huge influence thanks
I would either get Deco XE75 3 pack or more or I would get an Asus XT9 3 pack or more. XT9 will probably be a little better because of the walls but both of these choices are good for the price.
@@landpet oh I guess I should look into what you would recommend. Many thanks and apologies for any inconvenience.
@@eisaaltamimi3500 I've done reviews on those routers as well. Feel free to check them out.
@@landpet so I have been looking at your videos, I think I’ll go with the Wi-Fi 7 or the ASUS zen Wi-Fi 6E. I’ll sleep on it before I pull the trigger.
Many thanks tho.
So are the extra devices different from a range extenders?
They basically are range extenders however mesh systems are designed and tested together so typically they perform better than a router and range extender.
@@landpet thanks
"..the only one who doesn't need WAN port because it doesn't need WAN(one).." 5:37
pun not intended xD
Nice catch!
HI IF I GOT 1 GIG DPWN END 35 UP WISH TP LINK YOU RECOMENDED FOR ME XE200 OR BE85 WIFI 7 FOR WIRE BACKHAUL
For wired backhaul, you can get the cheapest one, even the X20 will be fine for those speeds.
For wireless backhaul, BE85 would be the best but only if you want to spend the extra money, honestly the XE200 should perform fairly close to the BE85 for those speeds. I would only go for the BE85 if money is no object or you plan on getting faster internet in the future.
I got the Google WiFi Pro last week and it's not as good as I hoped. Speeds are fine but I've had to turn off WPA3 as it caused issues with my devices, and IPV6 flat out doesn't work. My Xbox Series X also only works on Ethernet, but, it's backhaul speed is very good. I believe it only uses WiFi 6E 160mhz. Not sure weather to send it back and keep my Eero Pro 6 which played up recently.
WPA3 is mostly for WiFi6E devices, I usually have it disabled for the 2.4GHz and 5GHz. I only use it for 6GHz devices since that's the only thing it supports. IPv6 in most places will not work unless you're in Japan and maybe a couple other places that I'm not aware of. In the US and many other places, we are on IPv4, so here is a sample Local IP Address 192.168.1.2
@@landpetMy IPV6 works perfectly fine, here in the UK most providers support it. Only a small handful don't. All the major suppliers support it. Just Google WiFi doesn't work with it, it used to for ages till Google stopped it citing compatibility issues, I had it on the OG Google WiFi for about 2 years fine then they stopped it working. It works fine on Eero. But I’m very mixed as to weather I keep the Google WiFi Pro or use the Eero Pro 6. I hope to get fibre broadband later in the year.
@@landpetWhich so you prefer between the Eero Pro 6 and Google WiFi Pro?
I have 3 acre’s and wanted the mess for the range of the system. I’ve had an older generation Orbi bit it would randomly drop wifi. When it worked it worked well. I switched to Asus and it works flawlessly. I have a unit upstairs, one on the first floor, one in a detached garage and one on a medal shed. I have coverage on my entire 3 acres. Good system! I live in rural Michigan so i can’t really flex it’s speed capabilities but as far as range it’s top notch
Thanks for the input, from this list Asus had the best range
The range test.. are you connected to via wireless backhaul? wired backhaul? or single router?
Single router
What’s the best wired back haul for cheap?
Depends which speeds, up to gigabit, the deco x20 or x55 should be fine. Eero 6+ is also good.
Is there any reason why you didn’t consider any Tenda mesh Router? I think they have the best value for money router out there
I’ve reviewed two of them but at the time they didn’t have a 6E mesh system
Is there a way to tell how stable they are? I'm coming from Google Nest, and it seems that my mesh is seriously dropping connections and underperforming on speedtests and I have to power them on and off multiple times to finally get them back online and working. I was looking at TP-Link Deco, but it seems like people have issues with them as well. I'm just tired of dealing with wifi troubleshooting when I work from home and I have other things to worry about besides wifi. If anyone knows about the stability of any of these products, I would love other people's comments. I hate turning on/off the wifi all the time...
I get a lot of comments and people have mentioned issues with just about every mesh I've tested and people have also praised just about every mesh I've tested. I will say from my personal experience, most mesh systems are good. Just depends on your budget and what your speeds, house size and whether you're running wired or wireless backhaul.
What i am most interested in is the way one configures these devices.
I recently went to Fibre To The Property system in UK.
The provider supplied Eero 6 pro x 2.
What a terrible interface! No - i dont want to share even more private data with Amazon.
You need my phone number?
Oh - my mobile ran out of charge whilst i was configuring device. Wouldnt let me make a slave admin. No web UI - nearly impossible to admin on a Samsung s10e - which ironically got faster network speeds than.the S23!
I only had it one day. I asked the ISP for details of suitable alternatives that i can plug into the ONT. Apparently there are none. I dont know in your setups if these meshes simply plug into the ONT or if you need to go via another device.
So like i said - which of the devices have a non locked down admin UI, will allow openVPN, allow network gateway to be configured (we eventually got the Eero of 4.1 but I lost confidence in the ISPs ability to support me so cancelled.
Looking for better ISP and better router. Will look at the Asus.
Asus has the most options. Any mesh system can be directly plugged into an ONT. I have an ONT and thats what i do
I have issues with the walls, the wifi almost disappear in some rooms what would be the best?
You need something more powerful in that case if you're not planning on running ethernet cables. On the more budget side, I would try the ASUS XT9, the more expensive ones like the Orbi RBKE963 will also do just fine.
ive been waiting for your wifi 7 update
I had a mini wifi 7 update ( ruclips.net/video/Zw1QeZLg3E0/видео.html ) but the bigger one is coming end of next month or early July, I've been waiting for the ASUS mesh system but if I don't get it by July, I'll make the video without it.
I will have another Deco Wifi comparison which will include a number of wifi 7 systems by TP-Link
All the reviewers are missing the point of the mesh system... connect 150 plus devices and then do a test over a week to see how the they all fair, how many loose connections?
Eero pro 6e or deco xe75pro wireless haul.?
XE75 pro
@@landpet thanks for the reply.. I just order a two pack 👍 great videos !
Hey, new subscriber here. I'm hoping you can point me in the right direction. Hopefully you have a video or a few that can help or if not can you recommend how to find someone locally to fix my WiFi. I'm clueless as what kind of tech to even call. I have Xfinity with a 1 GB plan that usually has a 1.3 GB speed. I have a Linksys MX 8500 mesh system (3) with both being wired back hauled. I have 50 to 65 things connected at any given time (12 nest cameras). Everything has been rock solid for about 18 months. About 3 weeks ago my nest cameras started to constantly go on and offline non stop. All my other nest products, TV's, kitchen appliances, computers and etc... Don't seem to be having any problems. I bought a new nest pro 4 pack from Costco and exchanged modem with Xfinity and still having camera issues. Do you have any videos on this subject or do you know what type of professional I can search for on Google? Thanks for any advice
Thanks for subscribing! Have you tried restarting the nest cameras? If that doesn’t help, I would try to perform a factory reset on each and reconnect them. As far as a specific person to call, my goto would be to call nest directly which is owned by google now.
Which one of these mesh allows you to name 2.4 and 5.0 with different names? The reason is when you buy one of those light bulbs or outlets that only work on 2.4 it's easier to pick the 2.4 by name to connect. If both are named, the same router will try to make it connect to 5.0 which will not work. I know some routes let you use different names, and some don't. Do you have a list of which router or mesh system lets your name each 2.4 and 5.0 different. I know my EA9500 linksys does but the guest network no longer works so look for new router or mesh. I want one that guest network works and can name different 2.4 and 5.0. Thanks for anyone help.
Any Asus router allows it, I believe some Netgear routers allow it as well, but for sure Asus allows it
@@landpet even there mesh router? Brother Netgear mesh does not do it. He had same problem I was talking about.
@@ammotroop9708 Yes, ASUS mesh systems support it 100%. The netgear one I kind of remember the web interface having that option but I'm not 100% on that.
Would of been nice to know which ones support VLAN, to isolate devices on the same SSID and network. I know Orbi doesn’t support it, even with that ridiculous price
I can't remember off the top of my mind but I believe ASUS allows it.
If you need VLANs, Orbi Pro series is what you want
@@gustavorlopez Orbi Pro doesn't have 6E though and you get AC(WiFi 5) speeds on it
@@aliancemd Orbi Pro has Wifi 6 support.
@@gustavorlopez Yes, it has WiFi 6, I have it and it gives WiFi 5 speeds in my case(no difference at all from RBK50) - pretty guaranteed to drop the channel width once you add more devices to it and gives you zero control over that...
I have the ET12 Pro system and it crashes daily where wired AND wireless devices are unable to connect. Even the Asus router page doesn't load. Only way to restore connectivity is by rebooting the router. Do yourselves a favour and go with another brand.
Question: If I'm on an old Google Wifi Mesh, and I get the TP Link Deco, I'm guessing they can't work together to create a wider mesh, right? Alternatively, would I be able to use an unamanged switch to connect the Google hubs to the switch and create a separate mesh or woukd that mess with the frequencies of the new mesh?
I responded to your other comment
Hey landpet, which mesh system is better Tplink Deco aex5300 or asus mini XD4?
Deco is better
@@landpet thanks man
@@saviour7044 np
Thanks!
You’re welcome!
btw, thanks for the super thanks! You are the first person to do that on my channel since I recently enabled it.
I’ll take the EERO pro 6 or 6e any day. EERO just works. My inter speeds at 1gbps, and it gives 1gbps. There are constant security updates and the updates are completed within 2-3 minutes. It never goes down and offers a ton of security features.
I don’t think I’ll ever buy another brand after getting the EEROs for free from my ISP. ORBI was always nothing but problems and so overpriced! $1000 for a system is insane and they know it.
Thanks for your commenting your experience. There’s a new WiFi 7 eero coming out but it costs a lot as well
Man I’ve been down this rabbit hole for a month now. I have a 2.5 GB/sec AT&T fiber package and in my situation it all comes down to this.
They are all garbage. I now just got the TP-Link BE9300 because of the two 2.5 GB ports and the multiple antennas “AND” it is WiFi 7.
- The 5ghz band is stronger giving me about 1100 mb/sec in close’ish range.
- The 6 GHz band is absolutely useless and no faster if not slower than the 5ghz and that is only if you are literally standing next to the router.
- So am at a loss. I guess if you buy 2 or 3 WiFi 7 units that are $600 a piece and wire backhauk then all tighter in a 2400 sq fr. house you might be ok. But not for $2000. Our current available internet speeds are far surpassing the hardware available at this point in time to try and even remotely get close to what you are paying for wirelessly.
I’m at a loss on this whole network setup. Almost to the point of thing up.
Wire speed gets fly to 2600’ish MB/sec. But the wireless router has been a dead end for me so far.
You should test high end gaming routers vs these mesh
Maybe if I get some more gaming routers in my hands, I have so many standard ones that I haven't been focusing on gaming ones specifically.
@@landpet I think it would make for a killer video. Almost no videos on it on RUclips and I think some of the super high end gaming routers could out do a lot of these Mesh ones.
Interesting no notification on your video until now. It still blows my mind that there isn't symmetry with the ethernet ports, in other words, at least two fast ports with at least 2.5GbE. The dumbest that I see is 10GbE with all others 1GbE! Literally it's insulting, most of these are insulting in fact.
Still waiting for the Wi-Fi 7 models...
.. BTW Frontier FiOS just offered 5Gbps internet in my area. To be clear, I have a UniFi system. However, I'm always passionate about this stuff. When you have four adults and two grandchildren under your roof and everybody streams and games .. it's more about latency, minimum bandwidth and uptime.
That is interesting, with the notifications on, it should alert you. I'm with you on the multiple fast ports, even though one can argue against it since there are some benefits but at the end of the day, there should be at least 2 fast ports.
I have Frontier, they recently started offering 5Gbps in my area as well. I'm considering it, the issue from my perspective though is that I test mesh systems with gigabit ports, so I'll be capped while I test those things out. The upside is, I would like to see how fast the wifi internet speeds will be.
@@landpet .. There's no point in getting 5 gigabit internet if it's just something to brag about because nobody cares. You're the one that stuck with the bill. I can easily justify 1 gigabit and the price is as you know reasonable. So unless you have multiple and frequent large file downloads from multiple simultaneous sources, you'll see little benefit not to mention many websites cap your download speeds anyway.
I've got the Google wifi mesh, not the pro. It only has wireless backhaul and it's absolutely trash.
Sure I get good wifi signal through the house but the backhaul makes 1080p video inconsistent.
Nest wifi pro is also not great at wireless backhaul. For the price, the deco xe75 is much better for wireless backhaul speeds.
@@landpet went with the xe-75
No Arris?
No
I guess I’m really stupid. I can’t figure out what is what. Too many different names and models.
I recommend watching this video:
Network 101 | Simplified explanation of a Computer Network
ruclips.net/video/90BFxA2yEUY/видео.html
Then watching this one:
TP Link Deco X4300 Pro Setup Guide | FAQ's Answered | All Configs Shown including MoCA Adapter
ruclips.net/video/JfsbmtGFd4o/видео.html
After these two videos, you should have a good understanding of networks
Orbi was my choice. Asus would be 2nd!
Both are great.
Q: Hmmm... which is the best mesh WiFi 6E system for me? A: Depends. Great review! Thanks. 😊
Basically lol
I have google it's great easy reliable and fast and not that expensive
It was very reliable when I had it as well
👏👏👏
Would be good if you could do a speed test using some older client devices (not just 6 or 6E).
I used to with my older router reviews. Older wifi devices typically result in slower speeds and less range.
netgear is the most hackable hardware ......asus has the most buggy firmware trust I ha e this issue now on a gt-ax11000..... tp link just makes you pay a subscription for advanced features like vpn pass though needed for att fiber .....just saying ....im so torn
Thanks for the info! Nothing is going to be perfect, in some of my videos, people mention that eero drops signals, in others Orbi drops, in others nest wifi drops and so on. I only go off my test results. The other thing is, I'm constantly changing mesh systems so I typically test things for 2 to 4 weeks, sometimes less, sometimes more but typically in that ballpark.
Orbi needs a subscription.
No one should buy that garbage.
Edit: fuck I can't believe you gave this router the nod.
lol, I don't use it with the subscription and it works great. eero also needs a subscription for extra features but again, if that's what you're after, I would go with ASUS. I chose the Orbi for the best overall performance and it has the best combination of ethernet ports among other things.
@@landpet I decided to go with the TP-Link Deco XE-75.
With wifi 7 out within a year I decided not to go crazy.
The deco was on sale.
The 3 piece orbi is $2700 in Australia.
The Asus ET12 isn't even available here. I can get a 2 pack from the UK Amazon for $1500 Australian.
The 2 pack E75 cost me $690.
Pretty significant difference.