I’ve seen a few comments regarding Ubiquiti Unifi access points. Ironically, I use all Ubiquiti equipment in my personal home network and I actually purchased Ubiquiti’s new Unifi U7 Pro Max Access Point and planned on putting it in the video but the performance wasn’t as good as I expected. I could barely get any speeds over 1800GBPS and even if I could, the speeds are limited by the 2.5GB uplink port. Ubiquiti APs aren’t really built for raw speed. They’re built for high density and high reliability environments so it’s not necessarily an apples to apples comparison.
Now that the Unifi MLO update is out for the WiFi7 devices, I would love to see your take on the Ubiquiti APs. Sure the raw speed might not compete with the top tier, but as a Unifi ecosystem user, would love to see the same test sweep since other channels don't seem to have a clue how to do proper comparisons on WiFi7. Mostly interested on the distance and wall penetration of different frequencies with Unifi. Don't really want to go outside of Unifi to get WiFi7, but I will if the basics aren't good. Top speed is not everything.
Not sure how true it is but I've seen it mentioned a few times on forums that the regular U7 pro is better for 6ghz performance, but the pro max is better for 5ghz and 2.4ghz
Finally a good WiFi 7 router review. I don't know what it is, but most WiFi 7 router reviews suck. They either don't test with actual WiFi 7 clients, or don't compare them to other WiFi 7 routers, so you don't have an idea which one is the best. Thank you Sir!
Most people don't even use Wifi 6 (AX) and its features .... never mind Wi-Fi 7. This is kind of like the Cart is ahead of the Horse. Start looking at Wifi connections and most are 802.11 ac... 802.11ax has been available for a long time in my area and anyone that gets Fiber installed the hardware they get supports it but literally 95% of customers only have ac support. Out of the 70 connections I can see (5Ghz Only) only 6 have Wifi 6 support (ax)
It's not just WiFi 7 - for some reason reviewers have historically failed to show meaningful real-world examples of wifi speeds. @ChrisMajestic does a great job.
Good review. 😊 The only helpful thing I would say is: include an older 2.4 device to see if it's a new design issue. Just as you mentioned, 2.4 is usually better at wall penetration.
I have a maybe niche question about this and Wifi 7 in general. On previous generations, I've always separated out my bands by SSID, so I could connect to the faster 5GHz band as whenever I noticed a device slowing down connectivity wise I had found it had hopped to the 2.4GHz band, and that always fixed it for me. I know Wifi 7 combines 3 bands and communicates over all at once, but that's only for Wifi 7 devices obviously. What about older AC or AX devices? Will I no longer be able to separate bands for them and have to rely on (imo unreliable) band steering?
@@OTHMAN007 TP-link was out of question for me, they fked me up once. And I felt the ROG was a bit of an overkill, so I settled with the Netgear Nighthawk RS700S.
Great review, I have a ASUS ROG AX11000 wifi 6(not 6e version) and was looking to future proof my network with a new router, Specifically one with 10GbE as I have a few devices and NAS setup. Seems like you have confirmed my next choice for the ASUS, But I must say that TP link is very tempting as well, Looks like it has quite good antenna's built in. Only problem is here in Australia I only see the ASUS BE98 for sale and not the Pro version, I think one has two 6Ghz channels and the other two 5Ghz or something like that is the only difference, Not sure which way I want to go in that regard.
I bought an eero set cause I heard it was supposed to be so good and the biggest problem I have is exactly that distance. They are not good if there’s anything in the way at all. In order to get to my work, which is literally 25 feet from my front door having three expansion routers. I had to put one inside the house one on the front porch and then one inside the shed and all of them are within 50 feet. Not a fan of eero.
Great video, very thorough. I would love to see latency tracked with the speeds as well. In situations like the basement test, in my experience speed can be great but ping and jitter can be horrendous. That said, my experience deploying APs and mesh systems ended around the dawn of WiFi 6 and most clients were using the cheapest possible options.
I would be cool if next time you did access points as well. But that complicates the setup (kinda), but you don't strike me as some one why would shy away from a little network complexity. Nice vid! Good to see a non-sponsored WiFi 7 review!
Thank you for your time and testing. Would you still have a UniFi setup to test their APs? I believe you tested one AP a few years ago. It's nice to know where the consumer equipment is relative to the "Pro" stuff. And if/when I should jump ship!
Hay Chris, I can't believe how far these routers have come along with the super expense involved. Thank you for the review of all these routers. It will make it easy for your readers to pick the one they want. I remember about 20 years ago paying $240 for a Sinology router. At that time that price was crazy. Since then, I've gone to a carrier that provides the router/access point for free, home Internet is $30 a month and I get 260mbs down and 40 mbs up all the time. I wonder how long it will take to get any of the streaming devices at Wi-Fi 7? I guess it's all well and good that this stuff goes fast but if the receiving device are not WIFI 7 compatible then why? or do they have to be. It's good that these super speeds are here but it's gonna take a long time to get the devices updated to take advantage of the speed.
I think the biggest benefit of Wifi 7 is for mesh wifi. It will allow the access points to connect to each other wirelessly with very fast speeds, negating the need to wire them together. Aside from that, there is very little incentive to jump and spend $600+ on a WiFi 7 router. Additionally, 6Ghz on WiFi 6E offers similar speeds for less money.
Great video! I’m curious as to why the R700S wasn’t the runner up? Based on value or? It seemed to perform 2nd best based on Speedtest/range. Trying to decide between the NETGEAR and ASUS.
Awesome video. I want to upgraded my modem and router... we are 4 in my living space with 3000sqft. My gaming system is a PS5 and the modem and router will be installed in the bedroom. What do you recommend. Price is not a factor.
Costco. 19 gig router on sale from $500 down to $300 all November. It’s basically Costco’s version of the one he reviewed actually I think there’s a 24 gig. I think that’s the quad band one but the ones at Costco are 19 gig three channel routers and they claim to cover either 3000 ft.² or 3500 ft.² I wanna say it’s 3500 ft.²
Thanks for the great review. I just ordered the Asus. My only concern is maximum number of connected wireless devices. I have 120+ wireless devices on my network, and that number will only increase. Any insight there, Chris/all?
I still love Netgear. I’m starting to think that they’re not as good quality as they used to be. I currently have a Netgear from Costco the BE 9200 Wi-Fi seven router. Costco has online for all of November for members and you have to purchase it online the BE805 which is the BE 19,000 equivalent. Standard Costco pricing on that is $500 and it’s marked down to $300.
@Chris Majestic The 5G bandwidth of eero MAX7 is often drop to only 80MHz, while the 5G bandwidth of other products is 160Mhz, so the measured performance is only about half of that of other products.
Great job ,, but i think most of these systems designed to be a mesh system ... We need to tests the range between mesh systems via wifi backhaul and stability .. am sure wired backhaul will be none issue for all of them... We need to see for greater distance between mesh nodes better to be on a 6ghz band like the asus or on a 5ghz band backhaul like the tp link i think that will be a more important comparison ... Thank you
I’m doing a separate video on mesh. Every year I showcase both single routers and mesh routers. Most people don’t need mesh and end up buying them unnecessarily and have slower speeds than they would with a single router.
Which of these have direct router login via the mobile and PC connection? Or do these companies want you to login to your router through THEIR servers? Forcing you to create an online account to login to your router? I’m not talking about REMOTE management.
@@ChrisMajestic ooh that's disappointing :c I was expecting it to work like link aggravation? i'm sooo tempted to get the tp-link BE9300 at 299CAD (It's on sale!) I'm moving tomorrow and the place has a 3gbps connection!! my router only has one 2.5 port so it means I can't get 2.5 on my PC!
So I'm very tempted to get the Nighthawk but the RS300 which is less than half the price of the RS700 has a 2.5GB port instead of a 10GB one. I don't think this is likely to affect me since where I live the highest internet speed attainable is a few hundred Mb/s (I get 30Mb/s on average) but would appreciate your two cents. Also which provider are you with that you're able to get that much incoming and retain it at a distance??! Maybe it's because I'm in the UK but I've never even heard of speeds over 700Mb/s
I will never buy a router without removable antennas. If you want the best performance, the antenna is a huge part of it. For those who have never replaced an antenna the best way to think of an antenna like a lightbulb. The Omnidirectional antennas on almost every router can be thought of like a lantern spreading the 'light' around everywhere. You are just wasting the light and its only bright close to the source. Omnidirectional is good for a device that moves around, but is a horrible choice for a device that stays put. When you switch antennas to something like a panel antenna, you can focus the ' light' like a flashlight and send that 'light' to where it's needed and not everywhere it is not. The most common thing I see is people spending more and more money on higher end products to fix a weak signal/ slow speeds. For most people they do not even download an app or have any tools to understand what is happening on the most basic level with their Wi-Fi connection, but they will spend hundreds of dollars on a new Router to get the same results and a small improvement. If you download an app you want to know what the Signal is and the RSSI. When you can get that RSSI value lower than -63.... well that's when things start to work very well and things speed up. If you have a poor signal/ Poor RSSI you may not actually be able to take advantage of features with the newest WiFi as it will default to a slower and more stable connection and it will not use the newest technology. Know your signal and RSSI before you buy anything. You have no idea how much faster and reliable your connection can be and the best part is how cheap it can be done for.
What the ubiquiti/unifi U7 Pro for $189 and the U7 Pro Max for $279. They’re access points not routers (and you will need a gateway and PoE) but still are much cheaper than say a single ASUS BE-98 pro.
I actually tested the new U7 Pro Max alongside all of these and it wasn’t performing nearly as well when it comes to throughput. It’s also limited by its 2.5GB uplink port. Unifi APs are not really built for raw speed. They are built for high stability and high client density. I ended up leaving it out of the video as I didn’t feel like it added anything helpful.
@@ChrisMajestic it could still be interesting to mention it as these are the early days of WiFi 7 and there’s growing interest in WiFi 7. Your opinion in response to my comment is definitely interesting and could be useful for some consumers to avoid if at all possible. But also the price of $189 is cheaper than many of the other competitors… so trade offs. The ASUS is way faster for example, but is it really worth $800 for a router, especially since one router alone may not be sufficient to provide good coverage for a large house. Also, ethernet 10Gbps will still be faster than WiFi. So It’s debatable which model to go with. But in my opinion, the unifi management interface in its network application is pretty good compared to some of the other vendors it seems. The ASUS be98 pro seems to be a beast. I have the ASUS axe16000, a beast. Very strong performer. And I have unifi for protect security cameras and a couple their access points, including the u6 enterprise. One ASUS router is not enough for coverage all over my multi-level house. So I needed additional APs for good coverage. The u6 enterprise is A solid stable performer. But also not as fast as the ASUS. But for my high bandwidth applications like 4K Apple tv, gaming pc, ps5, i offloaded all of them from WiFi and they’re connected to Ethernet.
hello sir , i am facing a problem , i have a good quality soundbar(with arc port) , i have a macbook m1 pro (with arc port ) and i have a good quality arc cable but sir , the issue is -after connect the cable with both soundbar and macbook with "arc" option selected in the soundbar , the sound output is not delivering to the soundbar speakers . it is just coming from the macbook speakers , please help
There are multiple variables but part of the reason is because the router has more power to push to the client vs the power to push back out to the router.
Just curious I have the asus gtax6000 router for gaming I use wired gaming port wife son runs WiFi i have 1 gig internet would it be worth the upgrade to the asus be98 pro
Good review. I ended up going with the Deco routers over just about everything you tested (not wifi 7) and the Deco router is absolute trash. Software is buggy, speed test only tests between modem and router, and subscription for security services, which are trash. I wish I could return it.
Am i missing something in here? There was no WIFI 7 test anywhere in here. The test in here went from 2.4 to 6.GHZ . Doing a video about WIFI 7 routers but never tested anything with it.
@@rudy9895 Yes, you are correct. I’ve noticed more complaints from BE98 Pro version consumers. In contrast, consumers of the BE98 non-Pro version are generally satisfied, except for concerns about power consumption and something with custom firmware. I ordered the BE98 non Pro version only concerns are the power consumption. (and the high price) 😅
Please read this people: online gaming traffic is in the kilobytes/sec. No gaming router nor CAT7 or 8 cable will make your game experience better, or reduce latency. All you're paying for is a fancy looking toy router. I have an Ubiquiti router, which is much more secure and future proof. I'm on fibre. I proved to a friend that a faster router does not reduce latency by comparing my Unifi system and my cheap spare router which is a GL inet. I get 1 ms latency on both. What might make a difference is when you need SQM (Smart Queue Management) to reduce jitter and I bet that those expensive gaming routers don't have a good SQM implemented.
@@passivevii4052 Zero proof? I proved it to a friend in a video. YT won't let me post a link in the comments, but look at my last video on my channel. I showed my friend I get can still get sub 2ms ping a travel router GL iNET and CAT5 cable
One of these days I'm gonna see the "non-RGB" router. It's a blend between fast and easy set up and SOME functionality. Don't really care about VPNs. I need no parental controls. I haven't used port forwarding in about a decade. Never used guest access. Yadda, Yadda, Yadda. I just want 6e (6GHz band) I want to hide my SSID Channel control Some access control (Block new devices) Static IPs Yet, it seems like I can either choose from the Star Ship Enterprise (RGB), or my ISP router that barely let's me change my SSID. FYI, I'm old school, so when I say "RGB", it's my way of saying all the bells and whistles. I prefer (except for Mob, and even then no actual RGB) stripped down versions. My rig sits under a desk, I never look at it. I'm sitting here watching this over the top router comparison (thank you) guide, and I'm thinking, I'm not trying to write my own firmware...but it is good to learn.
I'm still waiting for the prices to drop by at least a few hundred but my choice just based on looks and performance would be the TP-Link Archer BE900. The ASUS is just to damn ugly unless shoved in a closet.
I wish people would stop recomending asus dont get me wrong i used to love them but after mother board failures and having to return there old pg32 udm people need to start mentioning asus decline in build quality
Fair for their mobos, I've switched off of them...however with their networking stuff it's still better in firmware than anything else. I only use Asus routers now. They're so good. Even prefer them over ubiquiti.
I actually tested the new U7 pro max along with all of these but the speeds weren’t anywhere close to what the rest of these got. I need to do more testing with it.
I used to drink the ubiquiti kool-aid... but after living with the alien for 6 years, I have to say, the support was horrible. None of the parental controls worked. Setting bed times never really worked, labels wouldn't stick to device mac addresses, and they promised to support the usb port but straightub abandoned it . I'm no computer wiz by any means. However, I know enough to keep my network organized. My original asus router was a beast and allowed me to access much more intuitively than the ubiquiti alien.
Why do all these "reviews" portray things that do not matter to customers at all? Your wifi speed does not make any difference unless the connection you get from ISP to home is faster and in that case your connection is PLENTY FAST even if you have an old WIFI system. Software/firmware updates to avoid being hacked, easy to setup properly, avoidance of unsafe protocols and features and good quality hardware is what reviews SHOULD look at, but they don't. It is like these reviews are made by people who do not know what they are doing and just read out loud the marketing material.
I am surprised at TP-Link - cheap Chinese - don't trust this brand after experience. That ASUS design looks terrible - no way I would purchase that type of router.
Yes, WiFi 7 is impressive BUT, all of your current devices will NOT ever utilize it as most devices are NOT even WiFi 6 or AX speeds! Unless you have the "newest" smartphone that can take advantage is this it is NOT worth it any ANY price and will NOT be for several years! MOST WiFi cameras and other current "tech" still live in the wireless "N" would and not AC, or AX and only connect on the 2.5GHz channel! I bought a WiFi 6 router almost FOUR years ago now and still most devices do NOT support it with the exceptions of my newer phone and Amazon Fire Cube 3rd gen. The rest of the devices are STILL in a world before AC routers! DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY because you will NOT benefit from the features that today's devices don't even support!
Everything you said is accurate for the average joe -- but these things are really enthusiast devices. I am looking at getting a new router with 2.5bge ports so I can squeeze out that last 200mbits out of my 1.2gbits internet connection lol. I have all the switches, motherboard etc to support such speeds. But yeh they market them like they solve the worlds problems and most people wont notice even the tiniest bit because they arent utilising it or don't need it. Especially when it comes to wifi and not a concerted wired effort.
I’ve seen a few comments regarding Ubiquiti Unifi access points. Ironically, I use all Ubiquiti equipment in my personal home network and I actually purchased Ubiquiti’s new Unifi U7 Pro Max Access Point and planned on putting it in the video but the performance wasn’t as good as I expected. I could barely get any speeds over 1800GBPS and even if I could, the speeds are limited by the 2.5GB uplink port. Ubiquiti APs aren’t really built for raw speed. They’re built for high density and high reliability environments so it’s not necessarily an apples to apples comparison.
Now that the Unifi MLO update is out for the WiFi7 devices, I would love to see your take on the Ubiquiti APs. Sure the raw speed might not compete with the top tier, but as a Unifi ecosystem user, would love to see the same test sweep since other channels don't seem to have a clue how to do proper comparisons on WiFi7. Mostly interested on the distance and wall penetration of different frequencies with Unifi. Don't really want to go outside of Unifi to get WiFi7, but I will if the basics aren't good. Top speed is not everything.
Not sure how true it is but I've seen it mentioned a few times on forums that the regular U7 pro is better for 6ghz performance, but the pro max is better for 5ghz and 2.4ghz
@empedance1933 i have both and neither of them have ever given me crazy speeds like we saw in this video.
@@ChrisMajestic interesting, good to know!
@@empedance1933 Thanks Chrsi - interesting, good to know this about Ubiquiti - will stay away.
Finally a good WiFi 7 router review. I don't know what it is, but most WiFi 7 router reviews suck. They either don't test with actual WiFi 7 clients, or don't compare them to other WiFi 7 routers, so you don't have an idea which one is the best. Thank you Sir!
probably cause there are not that many Wi-Fi 7 devices out there this feature more of a future proofing feature.
Most people don't even use Wifi 6 (AX) and its features .... never mind Wi-Fi 7. This is kind of like the Cart is ahead of the Horse. Start looking at Wifi connections and most are 802.11 ac... 802.11ax has been available for a long time in my area and anyone that gets Fiber installed the hardware they get supports it but literally 95% of customers only have ac support.
Out of the 70 connections I can see (5Ghz Only) only 6 have Wifi 6 support (ax)
There are people that try to make better reviews of WiFi hardware out there, including those from the WiFi 7 standard.
It's not just WiFi 7 - for some reason reviewers have historically failed to show meaningful real-world examples of wifi speeds. @ChrisMajestic does a great job.
The test methodology & thoroughness! Respect! What a legend!
Good review. 😊 The only helpful thing I would say is: include an older 2.4 device to see if it's a new design issue. Just as you mentioned, 2.4 is usually better at wall penetration.
Great comparison, thanks! Before I moved to Google Fiber and started using their mesh, I loved my TP Link router. Rock solid, great performance.
Always nice to have a Chinese made router as an American.
@@UmVtCgwhat are you talking about?
I have a maybe niche question about this and Wifi 7 in general. On previous generations, I've always separated out my bands by SSID, so I could connect to the faster 5GHz band as whenever I noticed a device slowing down connectivity wise I had found it had hopped to the 2.4GHz band, and that always fixed it for me. I know Wifi 7 combines 3 bands and communicates over all at once, but that's only for Wifi 7 devices obviously. What about older AC or AX devices? Will I no longer be able to separate bands for them and have to rely on (imo unreliable) band steering?
Really appreciate the real world testings and going to different rooms/ out in the driveway. This vid helped me make pick my next router!
What did you choose
@@OTHMAN007 TP-link was out of question for me, they fked me up once. And I felt the ROG was a bit of an overkill, so I settled with the Netgear Nighthawk RS700S.
how is performance of router @@Jaeboy
I love my RS700. How did I not see your video! Netgear gives out phenomenal military discounts.
Which one would be good for starlink?
I swear one of the antennae on that ROG Rapture twitched; are you sure it's safe to keep in the house?
I was just looking for a new Wifi-7 router and I was comparing all of the routers on this video. Found this video at the best time.
Awesome job
Great review, I have a ASUS ROG AX11000 wifi 6(not 6e version) and was looking to future proof my network with a new router, Specifically one with 10GbE as I have a few devices and NAS setup.
Seems like you have confirmed my next choice for the ASUS, But I must say that TP link is very tempting as well, Looks like it has quite good antenna's built in.
Only problem is here in Australia I only see the ASUS BE98 for sale and not the Pro version, I think one has two 6Ghz channels and the other two 5Ghz or something like that is the only difference, Not sure which way I want to go in that regard.
I don’t believe the pro is available outside of the US. But to be fair, dual 6ghz bands are really necessary outside of mesh usage.
I bought an eero set cause I heard it was supposed to be so good and the biggest problem I have is exactly that distance. They are not good if there’s anything in the way at all. In order to get to my work, which is literally 25 feet from my front door having three expansion routers. I had to put one inside the house one on the front porch and then one inside the shed and all of them are within 50 feet. Not a fan of eero.
Love your videos, dude. Always my go to for these reviews. Thank you!
Great video, very thorough. I would love to see latency tracked with the speeds as well. In situations like the basement test, in my experience speed can be great but ping and jitter can be horrendous. That said, my experience deploying APs and mesh systems ended around the dawn of WiFi 6 and most clients were using the cheapest possible options.
Thanks for this helpful summary, i was looking at a number of these; think I will be going with the TP Link personally. Great vid - have a subscribe.
I would be cool if next time you did access points as well. But that complicates the setup (kinda), but you don't strike me as some one why would shy away from a little network complexity. Nice vid! Good to see a non-sponsored WiFi 7 review!
Thank you for your time and testing. Would you still have a UniFi setup to test their APs? I believe you tested one AP a few years ago. It's nice to know where the consumer equipment is relative to the "Pro" stuff. And if/when I should jump ship!
Hay Chris, I can't believe how far these routers have come along with the super expense involved. Thank you for the review of all these routers. It will make it easy for your readers to pick the one they want. I remember about 20 years ago paying $240 for a Sinology router. At that time that price was crazy. Since then, I've gone to a carrier that provides the router/access point for free, home Internet is $30 a month and I get 260mbs down and 40 mbs up all the time. I wonder how long it will take to get any of the streaming devices at Wi-Fi 7? I guess it's all well and good that this stuff goes fast but if the receiving device are not WIFI 7 compatible then why? or do they have to be. It's good that these super speeds are here but it's gonna take a long time to get the devices updated to take advantage of the speed.
I think the biggest benefit of Wifi 7 is for mesh wifi. It will allow the access points to connect to each other wirelessly with very fast speeds, negating the need to wire them together. Aside from that, there is very little incentive to jump and spend $600+ on a WiFi 7 router. Additionally, 6Ghz on WiFi 6E offers similar speeds for less money.
Great video! Thank you for your hard work and commitment to fair comparisons!
Best overall review of wifi 7 so far, question you didn't mention who is your internet provider and if those router works with verizon, thanks
With WIFI7 MLO and clients that support it, speeds should go way beyond 5GBit/s. This will be very interesting for WIFI7 enabled AR or VR headsets.
Always enjoy your reviews, fam. I'm waiting for you to drop a video on those new Orbi 770's, tho. I'm curious to hear your thoughts.
Thanks for the review any of these have built in sqm?
Is your walls made of cement of just flat woods?
Great video! I’m curious as to why the R700S wasn’t the runner up? Based on value or? It seemed to perform 2nd best based on Speedtest/range. Trying to decide between the NETGEAR and ASUS.
My results from the rs700s were sporadic and unpredictable. I had to deduct points for that. I was expecting it to perform better.
Great job. I appreciate the comprehensive review.
Awesome video. I want to upgraded my modem and router... we are 4 in my living space with 3000sqft. My gaming system is a PS5 and the modem and router will be installed in the bedroom. What do you recommend. Price is not a factor.
Costco. 19 gig router on sale from $500 down to $300 all November. It’s basically Costco’s version of the one he reviewed actually I think there’s a 24 gig. I think that’s the quad band one but the ones at Costco are 19 gig three channel routers and they claim to cover either 3000 ft.² or 3500 ft.² I wanna say it’s 3500 ft.²
The wife approval factor is not to be understated 😂 great comparison!
If you need approval YOU'RE THE WIFE!
Thanks for the great review. I just ordered the Asus. My only concern is maximum number of connected wireless devices. I have 120+ wireless devices on my network, and that number will only increase. Any insight there, Chris/all?
But on the graph the nighthawk outperformed tp link ? I’m torn between tp link and nighthawk as my two choices
Personally I find netgear products sub par and would opt for the TP link if you’re not interested in Asus.
I still love Netgear. I’m starting to think that they’re not as good quality as they used to be. I currently have a Netgear from Costco the BE 9200 Wi-Fi seven router. Costco has online for all of November for members and you have to purchase it online the BE805 which is the BE 19,000 equivalent. Standard Costco pricing on that is $500 and it’s marked down to $300.
Thanks Chris - Great review. - Cheers!
What internet services are you using cause damn that’s crazy fast
So at those prices, is any of those better than a unify could gateway + a unify access point?
What app did you use for your internal speed testing? looks really slick!
OpenSpeedTest
You are the best thank you 😊
Getting the tplink prime sale yay 🤗
A very thorough review thanks.
Chris would a wifi 7 router improve wifi 6 computer speeds
@Chris Majestic The 5G bandwidth of eero MAX7 is often drop to only 80MHz, while the 5G bandwidth of other products is 160Mhz, so the measured performance is only about half of that of other products.
the speeds were low even for 80mhz. But this is why I begged Eero to give us more advanced options.
Good. Can you make a video about ASUS RT-BE88U Router
@ChrisMajestic Hey Chris are you gonna review the Benq TK710sti? Thinking about upgrading from my 700sti but not sure if it’s worth it, thanks!
GREAT JOB!! Loved the reviews.
Great job ,, but i think most of these systems designed to be a mesh system ... We need to tests the range between mesh systems via wifi backhaul and stability .. am sure wired backhaul will be none issue for all of them... We need to see for greater distance between mesh nodes better to be on a 6ghz band like the asus or on a 5ghz band backhaul like the tp link i think that will be a more important comparison ... Thank you
I’m doing a separate video on mesh. Every year I showcase both single routers and mesh routers. Most people don’t need mesh and end up buying them unnecessarily and have slower speeds than they would with a single router.
@@ChrisMajestic nice, will be waiting for that.
Which of these have direct router login via the mobile and PC connection? Or do these companies want you to login to your router through THEIR servers? Forcing you to create an online account to login to your router? I’m not talking about REMOTE management.
DAMN that Asus Router is expensive!!! And I don't have anything using wifi 6 let alone 7! I jump on that a few years from now.
Finally a wifi 7 review that makes sense. Why didn’t you test multi link tho? I’m also curious what speeds you got with 6e
Multilink has always been slower for me. Maybe it’ll get better in the future.
@@ChrisMajestic ooh that's disappointing :c I was expecting it to work like link aggravation?
i'm sooo tempted to get the tp-link BE9300 at 299CAD (It's on sale!) I'm moving tomorrow and the place has a 3gbps connection!! my router only has one 2.5 port so it means I can't get 2.5 on my PC!
is changing modem go hand in hand with getting a better router for better wifi? Thanks
please add MLO feature test, thanks
I’ve yet to see MLO improve throughout like it claims. I’ve tried it on all of them that have it.
Thank you for this review 🙏
Can you test the arris g54?
Have you lost weight buddy, looking trim! Good job on the review
Thanks. I’ve lost over 100lbs 😁😁
@@ChrisMajestic salute looking good brotha
So I'm very tempted to get the Nighthawk but the RS300 which is less than half the price of the RS700 has a 2.5GB port instead of a 10GB one. I don't think this is likely to affect me since where I live the highest internet speed attainable is a few hundred Mb/s (I get 30Mb/s on average) but would appreciate your two cents.
Also which provider are you with that you're able to get that much incoming and retain it at a distance??! Maybe it's because I'm in the UK but I've never even heard of speeds over 700Mb/s
Costco.
Thanks!
I will never buy a router without removable antennas.
If you want the best performance, the antenna is a huge part of it.
For those who have never replaced an antenna the best way to think of an antenna like a lightbulb. The Omnidirectional antennas on almost every router can be thought of like a lantern spreading the 'light' around everywhere. You are just wasting the light and its only bright close to the source. Omnidirectional is good for a device that moves around, but is a horrible choice for a device that stays put.
When you switch antennas to something like a panel antenna, you can focus the ' light' like a flashlight and send that 'light' to where it's needed and not everywhere it is not.
The most common thing I see is people spending more and more money on higher end products to fix a weak signal/ slow speeds. For most people they do not even download an app or have any tools to understand what is happening on the most basic level with their Wi-Fi connection, but they will spend hundreds of dollars on a new Router to get the same results and a small improvement.
If you download an app you want to know what the Signal is and the RSSI. When you can get that RSSI value lower than -63.... well that's when things start to work very well and things speed up. If you have a poor signal/ Poor RSSI you may not actually be able to take advantage of features with the newest WiFi as it will default to a slower and more stable connection and it will not use the newest technology.
Know your signal and RSSI before you buy anything. You have no idea how much faster and reliable your connection can be and the best part is how cheap it can be done for.
Very well said. Which router would you recommend? 13:02
What the ubiquiti/unifi U7 Pro for $189 and the U7 Pro Max for $279. They’re access points not routers (and you will need a gateway and PoE) but still are much cheaper than say a single ASUS BE-98 pro.
I actually tested the new U7 Pro Max alongside all of these and it wasn’t performing nearly as well when it comes to throughput. It’s also limited by its 2.5GB uplink port. Unifi APs are not really built for raw speed. They are built for high stability and high client density. I ended up leaving it out of the video as I didn’t feel like it added anything helpful.
@@ChrisMajestic it could still be interesting to mention it as these are the early days of WiFi 7 and there’s growing interest in WiFi 7. Your opinion in response to my comment is definitely interesting and could be useful for some consumers to avoid if at all possible. But also the price of $189 is cheaper than many of the other competitors… so trade offs. The ASUS is way faster for example, but is it really worth $800 for a router, especially since one router alone may not be sufficient to provide good coverage for a large house. Also, ethernet 10Gbps will still be faster than WiFi. So It’s debatable which model to go with.
But in my opinion, the unifi management interface in its network application is pretty good compared to some of the other vendors it seems.
The ASUS be98 pro seems to be a beast. I have the ASUS axe16000, a beast. Very strong performer.
And I have unifi for protect security cameras and a couple their access points, including the u6 enterprise. One ASUS router is not enough for coverage all over my multi-level house. So I needed additional APs for good coverage. The u6 enterprise is A solid stable performer. But also not as fast as the ASUS. But for my high bandwidth applications like 4K Apple tv, gaming pc, ps5, i offloaded all of them from WiFi and they’re connected to Ethernet.
hello sir , i am facing a problem , i have a good quality soundbar(with arc port) , i have a macbook m1 pro (with arc port ) and i have a good quality arc cable but sir , the issue is -after connect the cable with both soundbar and macbook with "arc" option selected in the soundbar , the sound output is not delivering to the soundbar speakers . it is just coming from the macbook speakers , please help
thanks
Why does the upload speed drop faster with distance and walls than does the download speed?
There are multiple variables but part of the reason is because the router has more power to push to the client vs the power to push back out to the router.
@@ChrisMajestic - thanks 🙏
Just curious I have the asus gtax6000 router for gaming I use wired gaming port wife son runs WiFi i have 1 gig internet would it be worth the upgrade to the asus be98 pro
How many devices can connect to the asus? I see the netgear one states 200 devices.
How could you have the Eero Max 7 without TP Link DECO BE 65/85?
Best Wifi 7 review
Good review. I ended up going with the Deco routers over just about everything you tested (not wifi 7) and the Deco router is absolute trash. Software is buggy, speed test only tests between modem and router, and subscription for security services, which are trash. I wish I could return it.
Wow. This is a rare one. What issues have you been having? Lots of people seem to love their Tp-link deco routers.
Damn velop 6ghz reaching outside impressive
Bro has low key a damn fine house haha - and great wifi7 review
Good vid thanks 🙏
Did you live at anytime in the Bronx you look so familiar to an old friend of mine ?
Nope
Ok thanks 😅so close
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Very informative review and you look fit and healthy. Keep up the good work on that, and keep those reviews coming.
What router do you use in your home network?
Unifi UDM SE
@@ChrisMajestic What speeds do you get with it? I just recently got 5 gig fiber and am planning to use UDM Pro. Just don't know if it can handle it.
The ROG looks like its a Mauldalorian
Am i missing something in here? There was no WIFI 7 test anywhere in here. The test in here went from 2.4 to 6.GHZ . Doing a video about WIFI 7 routers but never tested anything with it.
The entire test was wifi 7. Wifi 7 spans across all frequencies.
Wow that 2.4 ghz test speeds was pretty garbage.
Deco?
Deco is mesh and not really they’re flagship. It will be in the mesh video though.
@@ChrisMajestic you can just get one though and it acts just like any other router and it’s only $299
No MLO?
Every MLO test was significantly slower so I removed them from the video
@@ChrisMajestic I'm not blaming you but isn't it weird that MLO Created for moar speed but you get lower speed when you tested it? 😂
@@alvianfajar9570 it’s supposed to be faster but it’s still very new so I assume it needs some work.
Will this give me 0 ping on cod
Are your metrics in Mbps or MBps?
Mbps. (Bits) the metric throughput is usually measured in.
@@ChrisMajestic ok your graphics had MBps... Which is megabytes... So I was a little confused
I must have missed the typo. Thanks for pointing that out!
@@ChrisMajestic no problem. Thanks for the good review.
Be 98 vs be 98 pro?
Depends if you're in the US the pro it is.
@Sob3r777 hmm does that mean that each country would only have either one?
@@rudy9895 Yes, you are correct. I’ve noticed more complaints from BE98 Pro version consumers. In contrast, consumers of the BE98 non-Pro version are generally satisfied, except for concerns about power consumption and something with custom firmware. I ordered the BE98 non Pro version only concerns are the power consumption. (and the high price) 😅
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Please read this people: online gaming traffic is in the kilobytes/sec. No gaming router nor CAT7 or 8 cable will make your game experience better, or reduce latency. All you're paying for is a fancy looking toy router. I have an Ubiquiti router, which is much more secure and future proof. I'm on fibre. I proved to a friend that a faster router does not reduce latency by comparing my Unifi system and my cheap spare router which is a GL inet. I get 1 ms latency on both. What might make a difference is when you need SQM (Smart Queue Management) to reduce jitter and I bet that those expensive gaming routers don't have a good SQM implemented.
Zero proof and you're just speaking out your butt
@@passivevii4052 Zero proof? I proved it to a friend in a video. YT won't let me post a link in the comments, but look at my last video on my channel. I showed my friend I get can still get sub 2ms ping a travel router GL iNET and CAT5 cable
One of these days I'm gonna see the "non-RGB" router. It's a blend between fast and easy set up and SOME functionality. Don't really care about VPNs. I need no parental controls. I haven't used port forwarding in about a decade. Never used guest access. Yadda, Yadda, Yadda.
I just want 6e (6GHz band)
I want to hide my SSID
Channel control
Some access control (Block new devices)
Static IPs
Yet, it seems like I can either choose from the Star Ship Enterprise (RGB), or my ISP router that barely let's me change my SSID.
FYI, I'm old school, so when I say "RGB", it's my way of saying all the bells and whistles. I prefer (except for Mob, and even then no actual RGB) stripped down versions. My rig sits under a desk, I never look at it. I'm sitting here watching this over the top router comparison (thank you) guide, and I'm thinking, I'm not trying to write my own firmware...but it is good to learn.
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You're gonna need to add the ASUS ZenWiFi BQ16 Pro to this mix.
Weird results for the Max 7…
These routers on the high end cost 2/3rds as much as my gaming PC 😖😅
I won’t get another netgear. Just awful including the admin page. I went back to ASUS.
I get 9 mbps. I live in the country
no test on wifi 7 speeds?
All of the tests are Wifi 7. WiFi 7 spans across all 3 wireless bands. (6ghz, 5ghz, 2.4ghz)
9:57 60mbps is far from unusable lol. I usually get around 90 which is well fast enough for anything I need
Do not recommend purely on yougoobers putting INSANE in all their titles for no dam good reason. FOH
It’s not for no reason. It’s one of the few ways to get RUclips’s algorithm to suggest your videos.
I'm still waiting for the prices to drop by at least a few hundred but my choice just based on looks and performance would be the TP-Link Archer BE900. The ASUS is just to damn ugly unless shoved in a closet.
I wish people would stop recomending asus dont get me wrong i used to love them but after mother board failures and having to return there old pg32 udm people need to start mentioning asus decline in build quality
Fair for their mobos, I've switched off of them...however with their networking stuff it's still better in firmware than anything else. I only use Asus routers now. They're so good. Even prefer them over ubiquiti.
What? No Ubiquiti gear? Really?
I actually tested the new U7 pro max along with all of these but the speeds weren’t anywhere close to what the rest of these got. I need to do more testing with it.
Ubiquiti isn't THE holy grail of network equipment that some people think they are.
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I used to drink the ubiquiti kool-aid... but after living with the alien for 6 years, I have to say, the support was horrible. None of the parental controls worked. Setting bed times never really worked, labels wouldn't stick to device mac addresses, and they promised to support the usb port but straightub abandoned it . I'm no computer wiz by any means. However, I know enough to keep my network organized. My original asus router was a beast and allowed me to access much more intuitively than the ubiquiti alien.
@@Immortalized4evrThe Alien is a consumer router. Unifi and the other series are their proper networking equipment.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M Ummm, have you ever used Ubiquiti?
who really needs a router that's over 699 over 300 really
You get what you pay for.
Why do all these "reviews" portray things that do not matter to customers at all? Your wifi speed does not make any difference unless the connection you get from ISP to home is faster and in that case your connection is PLENTY FAST even if you have an old WIFI system. Software/firmware updates to avoid being hacked, easy to setup properly, avoidance of unsafe protocols and features and good quality hardware is what reviews SHOULD look at, but they don't. It is like these reviews are made by people who do not know what they are doing and just read out loud the marketing material.
I am surprised at TP-Link - cheap Chinese - don't trust this brand after experience. That ASUS design looks terrible - no way I would purchase that type of router.
Function > Form.
That's what the Asus router provides.
@@PSYCHOV3N0Mmore like broken vs function lol Asus fanboys are the worst
Yes, WiFi 7 is impressive BUT, all of your current devices will NOT ever utilize it as most devices are NOT even WiFi 6 or AX speeds! Unless you have the "newest" smartphone that can take advantage is this it is NOT worth it any ANY price and will NOT be for several years! MOST WiFi cameras and other current "tech" still live in the wireless "N" would and not AC, or AX and only connect on the 2.5GHz channel! I bought a WiFi 6 router almost FOUR years ago now and still most devices do NOT support it with the exceptions of my newer phone and Amazon Fire Cube 3rd gen. The rest of the devices are STILL in a world before AC routers! DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY because you will NOT benefit from the features that today's devices don't even support!
Everything you said is accurate for the average joe -- but these things are really enthusiast devices. I am looking at getting a new router with 2.5bge ports so I can squeeze out that last 200mbits out of my 1.2gbits internet connection lol. I have all the switches, motherboard etc to support such speeds. But yeh they market them like they solve the worlds problems and most people wont notice even the tiniest bit because they arent utilising it or don't need it. Especially when it comes to wifi and not a concerted wired effort.
Separating the bands out defeats the whole purpose of multi channel 🤡
Was fun but not enough content for a subscription
Lol crybaby
Bruh its free
Excellent job! Thank you for taking the time to put all this together! You nailed it sir! 🫡