Wanna be mad about your favorite Brawl character? Here are the timestamps, presented alphabetically so you can find your (least) favorite easily! 4:40 - Diddy Kong 0:23 - Ike 5:57 - King Dedede 1:24 - Lucario 7:25 - Lucas 11:02 - Meta Knight 6:14 - Olimar 1:55 - Pit 3:49 - Pokemon Trainer 9:36 - R.O.B. 13:33 - Snake 3:11 - Sonic 11:55 - Toon Link 2:22 - Wario 12:36 - Wolf 7:52 - Zero Suit Samus
@@Sidney_TSGYou can say that about Snake, but not Zero Suit. ZSS gets to do anything she wants to 90% of the roster and get out of their combos for free.
@@syncthedingus1306 that proves that shes a good character. But her combos and movement are still very intricate, compared to other characters. Theres a reason nobody could play zss like Marss on his Bday and thats because shes a character that requires more time to be learned than most.
Dedede does not require a brain, for he is already perfect. To claim that channeling his royal girth takes mental effort is an insult to the perfection of his design.
If this series keeps up all the way to 64 I want to see them go over all of their lists and then write them all together in one final video. I think that would be pretty cool
2:03 Marss looks like he just saw one of those memes of someone popping off because their wife is out with her boyfriend so they have the house to themselves
No joke, As soon as Esam introduced sonic, my internet slowed down and the video froze. It was so perfectly timed that I thought it was part of the video
Ima be honest that is why I disliked. That just pissed me off so much. I think my main sonic takes a lot of skill and thinking. I’m still upset about this decision
@@Nickynock no I admit sonic doesn’t have a lot of tech and his moveset just makes it so that the predictable option is the most optimal, that plus his hate is exaggerated too so there’s that (altho really making a tier just for him was too far)
You have to do overly complex shit to be good. Those guys are just ignorant if they rank "pk fire" and wolf fucking wolf higher than toon link? Kidding me wolf is so easy to play every move is op and dont forget last time esam put minmin high xD. Those guys are just trolling tbh
Lucario is not braindead tho He have a terrible frame data with very small hit box(for example jab used to be frame 7 and down tilt is frame 9) aura takes away most of his combos and confirms, he takes a lot of effort to actually work against decent ppl
Half of Sonic's moves are negatively disjointed and he has a lot of end lag on all his normals and he has no projectile. Lucario's placement is great relative to Sonic's.
As a Dedede main, his placement is lower than mumnkey, we eat crayons so we look halfway intelligent but in reality we have an IQ that doesn't even rival a spoon's.
I think they didn't have Z or Plup bc Plup is mostly melee and doesnt play comp for ultimate really, and little z doesn't have the tech knowledge or pro/local experience that these 3 do.
@@imESAM you probably wont respond to this, but id like to know what you think about ganon. At a high level you need to be good with mindgames to do well, but hes still a very simple character.
I have one thing to say about king dedede mains brainpower what do you do when Gordon gets reflected and your traps don’t work. We be brain dead on purpose to screw with our opponents until we make one big brain play that kills you at 40
I think pit's right below diddy. Sure you have down-B, multiple jumps, nair and a variety of decent kill options (dash attack, F-throw, up smash, edgeguarding) but you don't have spice. No early kill options, no auto-neutral winning bs and not much Cheese. You have to do everything yourself but plan or play with resources like diddy and snake do.
PT is literally 3 completely different characters in one, with completely different movesets, completely different physics and mobility, completely different game plans. As a single character requires constant decision making, switching is criminally abusable and completely useless in disadvantage, but if you switch while in advantage you risk totally messing up your flow, every time you’re offstage you need to pull serious witchcraft out of your ass to recover properly and if you mess any of it up you’re dead. I won’t pretend it’s a galaxy brain character, because it’s not, but surely it needs at least a couple more brain cells than a character with a paralyzing projectile, absurd mobility, a broken zair, crazy confirms and that whenever it’s in disadvantage can just say “nope” and flip kick the fuck away. But I’m not surprised about Marss, the dude thinks ZSS is mid tier, I’m just disappointed in ESAM and Wadi that didn’t have anything to say about it...
oh look at me im lucario i b-reverse aura sphere and hold it in neutral until i get hit enough that i can throw out kill moves at 55% lucario is mumnkey
Really? The placement is so true? You think its harder to play wolf ike minmin than toonlink? If you want to be a good toon link you have to do complex shit. Do you need to do complex shit with wolf ike minmin?
The reason why Snake has his side B, is because the devs wanted him to edgegard super easily, so that you can focus on everything else about Snake, which is super hard.
Wanna be mad about your favorite Brawl character? Here are the timestamps, presented alphabetically so you can find your (least) favorite easily!
4:40 - Diddy Kong
0:23 - Ike
5:57 - King Dedede
1:24 - Lucario
7:25 - Lucas
11:02 - Meta Knight
6:14 - Olimar
1:55 - Pit
3:49 - Pokemon Trainer
9:36 - R.O.B.
13:33 - Snake
3:11 - Sonic
11:55 - Toon Link
2:22 - Wario
12:36 - Wolf
7:52 - Zero Suit Samus
Thank you Panda
Do they determine the tier lists by how good the character is or how complex the character is, because they downplayed zss' complexity.
Meta knight is a dog smoker and they will say they were trying to make a hot dog
I NEVER, and mean, NEVER up b as sonic when I'm close to people. And I'm a sonic main.
@@alliedcookie9529 You’re not playing sonic correctly man, hate to tell ya.
that was my stolen joke 3:56 i demand royalties
lol
lol
Marss you better give credit to Alpharad for that joke lmao
U tell him alpharad
Hi alpha!!!
"THEY'RE COLOR CODED"
I'm fucking deceased
Full on "HAAA!" On the bus
I wonder how ZSS and Snake ended up so high on the list. 🤔
It makes sense though
@@Sidney_TSGYou can say that about Snake, but not Zero Suit. ZSS gets to do anything she wants to 90% of the roster and get out of their combos for free.
@@syncthedingus1306 yeah kinda not really
@@syncthedingus1306 that proves that shes a good character. But her combos and movement are still very intricate, compared to other characters. Theres a reason nobody could play zss like Marss on his Bday and thats because shes a character that requires more time to be learned than most.
@@Fungus402 Name one common ZSS combo that is intricate.
Oh sonic had a galaxy brain, It just melted from running around
Melted from spindashing more like
ROB is the only character in Smash where playing drunk nearly doubles your win rate... having a big brain actually hinders your performance
Might test that out. I definitely play worse when I'm high 🤣
I feel like it's similar with Lucario. The pressure of aura is only able to harnessed by the braindead
WaDi, Marss and EsAm be looking like fathers with them glasses on
@Grunty Boi Someone commented this before me?
Yes
@Grunty Boi ummmm What did you steal this time?
I think snake requires so much focus and changing your state of mind that it's really hard to go back to playing other characters afterwards.
Yeah, most players that play Snake PLAY Snake, or have just a few pocket counter picks
Yeah, totally agree. Been a Snake main for a while who use to main Mario and going back to the plumber is so bizarre. He’s so fast!😂
Soooooo, when is the “WE FORCED WADI AND ESAM TO PLAY RIVERS” ?
They ran into him at a tourney
@@uprollsariotvan “AGAIN”
Yo you guys could make a competitive podcast
they're literally saying EVERYTHING i tell my friends who don't believe me
I seriously fucking want that
@@SweetzTheOne i know this is a bad comparison but if they did something like what they do with mma that would be so dope
PG chats
I'm amazed Ike made it out of Mumnkey brain tier.
Really shouldn't have tbh
ike’s kit has been diversified enough to get out of the mumnkey imo
@@mannya.h.967 If this was early Ultimate I'd agree. But the game's grown past Ike, his nair shit never lands unlike Palutena
Dedede does not require a brain, for he is already perfect. To claim that channeling his royal girth takes mental effort is an insult to the perfection of his design.
Snake being the only fat brain makes me happy. At least some people recognize how hard it is to play optimal Snake
So far Ive heard ScAtt ESAM Dabuz Marss WaDi MVD and ApolloKage say he’s amongst the hardest.
If this series keeps up all the way to 64 I want to see them go over all of their lists and then write them all together in one final video. I think that would be pretty cool
2:03 Marss looks like he just saw one of those memes of someone popping off because their wife is out with her boyfriend so they have the house to themselves
this comment is fantastic
As a Toon Link main, and after watching what Alpharad did to reach elite smash with him, I can totally agree with the outcome
No joke, As soon as Esam introduced sonic, my internet slowed down and the video froze. It was so perfectly timed that I thought it was part of the video
LMFAO
My request has been fulfilled, Sonic had a tier made for him
All 4 dislikes are sonic mains
Ima be honest that is why I disliked. That just pissed me off so much. I think my main sonic takes a lot of skill and thinking. I’m still upset about this decision
@@Nickynock L
@@Nickynock *chili dog huffer*
@@Nickynock It's quite unfortunate you think that
@@Nickynock no I admit sonic doesn’t have a lot of tech and his moveset just makes it so that the predictable option is the most optimal, that plus his hate is exaggerated too so there’s that (altho really making a tier just for him was too far)
Lol yeah toonlink doesn’t take a whole lot of brain effort unless you’re trying to do something overly complex with him
You have to do overly complex shit to be good. Those guys are just ignorant if they rank "pk fire" and wolf fucking wolf higher than toon link? Kidding me wolf is so easy to play every move is op and dont forget last time esam put minmin high xD. Those guys are just trolling tbh
@@Pkey995 Nah it's just easy content and people who disagree will probably spread it and get it more views
@@Pkey995 How easy it is to win =/= how intelligent you have to be with a character
@@123698lol I said easy to play not easy to win... think about wolfs plan... now think about minmins plan... yeah thats right buddy
@@Pkey995 Nope. Wolf is less simple, not by much but still simple. Toon Link is super simple and is the most dependent on the B Button
As a Dedede main I totally agree
It's simple, but it works
9:53 we're all playing smash but ROB mains be out here playing Divekick
Marss sounded so baffled at Esam during the Olimar segment and its so funny
I am beyond triggered of Marss saying "Pokimon trainer"
pokimane trainer
Ok POK EH MON fan
In terms of how a lot of ppl use PT, yeah its simple. But to fully optimize PT takes a big brain.
@@sourkarim9725 it rite tho
I agree sonic is so small brain that we get offended when we hear hotdogs.
Lucario is not braindead tho
He have a terrible frame data with very small hit box(for example jab used to be frame 7 and down tilt is frame 9) aura takes away most of his combos and confirms, he takes a lot of effort to actually work against decent ppl
Half of Sonic's moves are negatively disjointed and he has a lot of end lag on all his normals and he has no projectile.
Lucario's placement is great relative to Sonic's.
Yo the intro theme unlocked all my childhood youtube memories
next tiers:
big brain time
brainless genius
caveman
"that's not hard they're color coded, there's an arrow for the color" marss 2021
Virgin Marss: noooo ZSS requires galaxy brain plz she's so hard 😫
Chad WaDi: ROB is dogshit easy 😎
I love how they put Meta Knight in small brain just because of one move LOL
Fr, they put meta knight lower than king dedede and it’s dumb lol, as a meta knight main, me disappointed with tha list lol
MK has very predictable shit "UP AIR UP AIR, UP B!"
@@juandebenedictis2373 That tier wasn't ordered you know that, right?
@@juandebenedictis2373 lukechito moment
This series is only missing one thing:
MORE TIERS!
Yeah, I think they should have 5 tiers so I dont see ZSS next to flippin IKE!
I died when it hit “THEYRE COLOR CODED FOR YOU”
"Haaaaa yellow pikpik go bzzzzzzzttt"
As a Dedede main, his placement is lower than mumnkey, we eat crayons so we look halfway intelligent but in reality we have an IQ that doesn't even rival a spoon's.
watching these 3 shittalk every character is so goddamn entertaining
6:05 "Class what are they going to do?" I loved that bit so much, please never stop
wolf made it out of monkey and that’s honestly all i could hope for
Commenting for the algorithm
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We love you too
Wait had WaDi made pgr without actually practicing with a switch? That’s crazy
He got one nearly two years after the game came out wow
I think that Esam saying that Wolf’s laser sucks is the most #ESAMopinion I ever heard
As a Wolf main, I knew that was bullshit LMAO I hate his blaster
Plato, Aristotle, and Socrates
i miss when people thought toon link was high tier
I only disagree with Lucarios placement, I feel he just about makes it in to standard brain. Besides that 100% agree
I’m glad Snake’s galaxy brain skill cap is recognized. I’ve had many people complain about him being braindead-how foolish they are
Marss got triggered so hard😂😂😂
"THAT'S NOT HARD, THEY'RE COLOR-CODED!"😂😂😂
Mans had to stand up for a second! 😂
ESAM the only one out here giving reasonable opinions sometimes
Meta Knight will rise
Howw the hell is he munmkey brain? It doesnt make any sense, hes kinda hard in ultimate
@@Esteban-R2 he's not munmkey brain, they're not in the KN0W
Brawl was my 1st Smash game so this was interesting.
Always love hearing Marss and WaDi. Wish plup or little Z joined them for their input to make a sick trifecta.
I think they didn't have Z or Plup bc Plup is mostly melee and doesnt play comp for ultimate really, and little z doesn't have the tech knowledge or pro/local experience that these 3 do.
They really did my main lucario like that. 😕 it’s time for them to play him so they can back their arguments
Same for lucas smh
Esteban Rivera honestly where they put us is pretty accurate Lucas is hard to play but it’s not as hard as peach or something of the sort.
and yet they still do it
@@imESAM yoo what’s up esam
@@imESAM you probably wont respond to this, but id like to know what you think about ganon. At a high level you need to be good with mindgames to do well, but hes still a very simple character.
I have one thing to say about king dedede mains brainpower what do you do when Gordon gets reflected and your traps don’t work. We be brain dead on purpose to screw with our opponents until we make one big brain play that kills you at 40
Nintendo making Snake use his 180 IQ.
They had to take that into account lol. True to his series
Toon Link is hella fat brain. He doesn't just win for free like the other two Links. He has to actually think and do setups and shit like that.
I think pit's right below diddy. Sure you have down-B, multiple jumps, nair and a variety of decent kill options (dash attack, F-throw, up smash, edgeguarding) but you don't have spice. No early kill options, no auto-neutral winning bs and not much Cheese. You have to do everything yourself but plan or play with resources like diddy and snake do.
I was too busy listening to the Station Square Remix that I managed to tune them out XD
PT is literally 3 completely different characters in one, with completely different movesets, completely different physics and mobility, completely different game plans. As a single character requires constant decision making, switching is criminally abusable and completely useless in disadvantage, but if you switch while in advantage you risk totally messing up your flow, every time you’re offstage you need to pull serious witchcraft out of your ass to recover properly and if you mess any of it up you’re dead. I won’t pretend it’s a galaxy brain character, because it’s not, but surely it needs at least a couple more brain cells than a character with a paralyzing projectile, absurd mobility, a broken zair, crazy confirms and that whenever it’s in disadvantage can just say “nope” and flip kick the fuck away. But I’m not surprised about Marss, the dude thinks ZSS is mid tier, I’m just disappointed in ESAM and Wadi that didn’t have anything to say about it...
#ZSSSux
Olimar is hard:
Also Olimar: Down throw - double upsmash - up air
Honestly 90% of Olimar neutral is jump side b to foward air and it’s very simple.
Didn't double up-smash get patched out?
@@ReitheOffbeatOtaku IIRC it still works with yellows since they have a larger hit box
I feel like diddy kong will drop some tiers whenever people learn to utilize walking more
**Marss downplays Ike's game play**
((Promptly uploads video of him losing FT10 against an Ike player lol))
I really like seeing them together and discussing it rather than doing it seperate
Why does ESAM look like he’s in a baby seat?
Wario is huge brain just for the fact that if you pick wario it automatically makes you a genius
TRUUEEE. He's probably the most fun character to play as, and noone seems to realize.
Truuuueeeee
ESAM just has a corgi on his tv in the background
its my dekstop background
All three of them look like fathers because they all have glasses on
Papa bless
I have never seen Marss stand up in indignation before lol. I love this series.
That Lucario placement was brought to you by people who don't play Lucario. Oh well
Ah yes, mashing frame 1 nade in disadvantage. Very fat brain
Doesn’t work at high level tho. He needs more mixups. Also ESAM and Marss beat like every Snake player they fight
I’m a sonic main and I don’t agree with you putting him lowest tier. On the other hand I picked him just because he’s super fast so who am I to talk?
"Kooky, dooky, or a little bit spooky
The thumbnail is glorious lol
Esam views everything through the lens of "pikachu main" and I respect that
The intro was the best
That lucario argument was the most smooth brain thing I’ve ever seen
I play Lucario and my doctor says I should stop leaving my grave after dying from brain cancer
oh look at me im lucario i b-reverse aura sphere and hold it in neutral until i get hit enough that i can throw out kill moves at 55%
lucario is mumnkey
@@ZHL242 he’s actually worse than sonic ngl
Snake, Minecraft Steve, and Pac-Man naturally need 1 trillion iq to play effectively
To throw down a fire hydrant? nah lol.
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ive played against rivers diddy kong and god damn it is scary
As a toon link main the placement is so true
Toon link is so cool though
Really? The placement is so true? You think its harder to play wolf ike minmin than toonlink? If you want to be a good toon link you have to do complex shit. Do you need to do complex shit with wolf ike minmin?
@@Pkey995 lol yes, tink is only boomerang bro cmon. All three of those characters are harder to play than tink for free
We need coney here for the godlike tier names
wadi placing at tournaments without even owning the game, wtf, this dude been training on smash 4 and placing in ulitmate? that's crazy
What's the song that was playing during the Wolf section?
Do a hype list
The reason why Snake has his side B, is because the devs wanted him to edgegard super easily, so that you can focus on everything else about Snake, which is super hard.
Station Square soundtrack is beautiful
WaDi is really good at intros
The way they did wario uptilt was a hate crime
The big brain wadi should be an emote
Very excited for the melee list lol
hello I'd like to come here to emphasise:
Ike is in mid tier.
I'd like to yet again emphasise:
Ike is in mid tier.
As a Dedede main, I personally prefer Jet hammer
As someone that plays the unusual combination of both Wolf and Sonic, I think they’re both chili dog huffers lmao
I love these videos, good job panda. Also, King Dedede belongs in that Chili Dog Huffer.
lucario is still cool tho
2:26 castle crashers music wadi? I see you 👀
I'm sorry Panda, I was not able to make the big brain play of subscribing today...
...because I already am!
Anyone else notice that marss esam and wadi all where the same glasses
Love these lists
As a sonic main, I 100% agree with everything they said about sonic lol
I love how 80% of characters can't punish down be when the zss does and marss says your still losing but he's the fourth best player in the world
Every character can mega punish down b if you just have the slightest of resemblance of a functioning brain
Biggus Brainus
Sonic is in a category of his own. Ill take it.