I gotta thank NH for helping me learn to think for myself. Actually critically think about shit people think is normal. Caffeine aside but life as a whole. Always been somewhat of a freethinker but he's always opened my mind to the idea about questioning litterally everything. It can be frustrating though considering that most people don't even wanna discuss any topics they find sensitive or taboo
Stopped excessive Pre workout, coffee and Energie drink consumtion 2 weeks ago. Was tired for about a week and a half, training was hard as hell. Now I feel a lot better without these substances. Training is still hard but it gets better! Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
I watched this from start to finish as someone who for years hasn't consumed a milligram of caffeine (or any other stimulant/drug in general for that matter) and it was a superb take on stimulants and the attitudes of the people who are addicted to them. I highly appreciated how you so eloquently put into words the thoughts and arguments that I personally can't be assed to come up with when talking to coffee/energy drink addicts.
Me 2 hours after having caffeine: is this stuff working? i dont really feel much different Me 20 hours after having caffeine: DEAR GOD PLEASE FORGIVE ME, I JUST WANT TO GO TO SLEEP FUCKKKKKK
Fun fact, back when jack3d was sold legally, people basically WERE lifting weights on meth. Some of the stories are crazy, I know a guy who used to take it all the time
@@BaldOmniMan noooooo I've been made. In all seriousness I was against pre workouts too but the pump and energy is super fun, I take mine 4 days a week because I only lift 4 days a week.
When my uncle was in jail, one of the main things he asked us to send him in care packages was Folgers Crystals. That, and CremeSavers, that hard candy
I’ve been told that I need to get my caffeine consumption under control by multiple people but this is the first thing that has genuinely made me think about my reliance on caffeine as well as why I got so defensive when people told me I needed to stop. Anyways, I’ve lessened my consumption from about 300-600mg daily to 0-150mg. I plan on going completely off of it for a period of time fairly soon and possibly re-introducing it on occasion and in moderate doses further into the future when I’ve proved to myself that I am no longer reliant on it. The video was very thought provoking, thanks NH.
@@shadow_realm47 when I work a 12 hour day (a lot of labour involved) and then go train for an hour and half it’s needed on a cut or I just won’t make it past squats. 600 isn’t even that bad tbh the recommended daily max is like 400.
@@internetuser9342 yeh. Caffeine is a miracle drug still on about 600mg a day. Resting heart rate 48 bpm at medical a few weeks ago can’t be that unhealthy.
This is anecdotal of course but back when I was in college I was drinking 3-5 cups a day. I think this is one of the reasons I had such bad anxiety at the time. I remember one day I was studying for a math final and had like my 5th cup of coffee that day and I completely lost it. I thought I was having a heart attack. Of course it could of been multitude of other things that contributed to this but I definitely think that much coffee contributed to the physical effects of that panic attack. I've since then cut down to a cup every other morning and I can definitely see an improvement overall with my anxiety.
I just started college and I’m trying my best to prevent that. It’s weird watching my freshman roommates spiral though. My generation has a *almost* complete lack of self discipline.
@@GibsonReal my biggest advice for you is to plan your study time. You don't have to cram. If you know you have a test in a few weeks set a 2 week time period to study and sleep.
@@user-ui8my9zs7o I appreciate the advice, thank you sir. I’ve taken a 56 credits worth of college classes in high school so I’m not unfamiliar with planing for homework; but I’ve never really studied before.
I gave up caffeine and it was the best decision I made in my life for my health. When I consumed caffeine, I did not reach deep states of sleep and I was always tired. I was also extremely alert and would wake up at any noise in the middle of the night. This state of alertness aggravated a anxiety problem I have (basically the muscles in my neck would get extremely tense out of nowhere) and to "treat" this a doctor prescribed me Valium, shortly after I realized that this was really fucked up, so I cutted off every single drug, and now I'm better than ever. sad thing that I havent seen this video before, thanks for your videos bro
I tried to quit coffee for years until I finally got it a few months ago. Now I can sleep properly but then I never felt drowsy, I had to go to bed and force myself to sleep and had trouble waking up. I can't stress enough how much impact this had on my mental health, forcing yourself to sleep is not the same thing as sleeping when you are tired and as humans we need the latter. Now I fall asleep easily and wake up between 6 and 7am without an alarm. My teeth turned yellow, unfortunately I didn't see any progress since I quit. At least they are not getting worse, which I'm sure they would if I didn't stop.
Honestly, you posit some good points in this video. I’ve been drinking coffee since I was around 14 years old, and I really enjoyed the taste, as well as the feeling of alertness it gave me after consuming it. I’ve always had a bit of coffee here and there, and I was always a decently active kid so I thought it was perfectly fine to have some coffee before I would train since I thought I could make use of the energy. It wasn’t until last year that I started to use preworkout, especially since I really wanted to hit big numbers in the gym. But honestly, after achieving some big PRs that I’m proud of, I’m not so fussed about making gigantic leaps in progress and much rather take the slow route from here on out. Besides that, it’s not like I’m a construction worker, or as you said, someone who works night shift (not anymore at least), so it’s not like I absolutely require the stimulants to get through the day. Even then, my father works manual labour to this day, yet he doesn’t drink anywhere near the amount of caffeine he does in his typical routine, and that’s on top of also going to the gym and playing soccer for him! All these things considered, I’m gonna start weening off the caffeine slowly, if I want to enjoy coffee for the taste, I’ll just have decaf.
I've been drinking black coffee since age 13. I love the taste, the ritual, the bonding, the process of making it. I also like the cuisine aspects of where the coffee comes from. And I've been drinking it so long (I'm 39), it does nothing for my energy levels. But I've had no illusions about my addiction. Coffee affects my sleep negatively and contributes to my racing mind. It still makes me have an hour-long bleary-eyed waking up process in the morning. I need it for every longish drive. I enjoy decaf a lot too. I think it's time for me to cut back and maybe even get rid of the caffeine altogether. I watched the whole video. I do appreciate your compassionate and passionate attitude
Just a quick comment, there is a documented phenomenon called the “backfire effect”. The backfire effect happens when you criticize a “core belief” of someone (in this video the backfire effect happens to people when you criticized people’s coffee addiction). This also happens all the time with people when you talk to them about politics or religion. The backfire effect is interesting because when people experience it the “fight or flight” areas of the brain light up like a firework.
Quitting caffeine is the number one best thing I’ve ever done in my life. Nothing comes close. I quit when I was 25. For my whole life I thought I had crazy bad anxiety. It was the caffeine. It’s insane
Informing young people is really helpful. Should add in that obviously as you pointed at is that “Don’t see pleasure for its own sake”. Accepting the boredom of daily life is much more beneficial than short-term pleasure. Thank you for being kind enough and sharing this information.
I've been trying to quit caffine because I noticed a lot of the things mentioned in the video, but its been hard, and I was about to flake on trying, but this vid definitely gave me the push I needed to try to systematically quit it, and make quitting it a priority.
Thanks for tlaking about this seriously, becauso in this fitness community there are alot of people addicted to this. I have been caffeine dependient since about 2017 I guess. Now I only take a monster or 2 and a hald teaspoon of coffee when I train ( 3 times a week). The worst you can do to cut off caffeine is not taking it. You need to slowly consume less and less
i once dated a girl who was so addicted to coffee that we would go on a walk date along the city, in the city there are automated machines all over and i kid you not we would walk for 20 mins and she would stop every time and buy a cup of coffee from the machine, she probably drank 5-6 coffees on that date, at the first 2-3 cups i laughed it off but after that i was really concerned for her but she acted like it was normal later she told me that at home she would drink 10 BIG CUPS OF COFFEES A DAY and i mean like JARS OF COFFES not small cups, she ghosted me after 2 weeks of dating
It is very ironic and telling, that it is currently 1:55 AM over here and I am drinking coffee to stay awake, to try and tire myself for the next night, so I can sleep LMAO. It's an old strategy of mine to stay awake all night when my sleep schedule gets fucked, to restart myself, but as you've said, this takes a toll. And what you've said starting at 48:48 really made me think and look back at my own coffee habits. I never drank coffee until like 2011, when people at work pushed me towards it, because they said it was just a good thing to do for work. Over the coming years, it slowly became a habit of mine to drink coffee, to the point where i would drink it every day, often several times a day. And then, around the end of 2017, i started to actually drink alcohol on a regular basis too, when before I would never do that either. And then that also became a daily routine, to the point where now i have to give all my money to relatives, so that I can't buy it anymore LOL. As you've mentioned, most seem to go with the coffee and cigarettes combo, but I seem to have developed coffee and booze combo, which now that I think about it, is likely the real reason why my sleep is horrible, and I've developed brain fog and memory problems. My sleep has been fucked up by these drugs for several years at this point.
i've thought about it for some while but your video hit the nail on the coffin. I will try to quit taking caffeine starting now. Will it screw me over for the next days? Probably. It will feel painful since i am so used to binge consume caffeine, but i NEED that balance in my life! My sleep is shit, my anxieties are at an all time high. some performance boost is just not worth it for me. Wish me luck brothers.
@@alexjohnson3774 i've started taking caffeine aggain. my sleep has gotten better because i stop taking caffeine after 12:00 i also don't take as much caffeine as i used to
@@sasukeuchihaa1447 that’s good to hear man. Today is my first day without it, I plan on going for at least a week or two. I used to consume 300-600 mg a day and although I never had a surge in energy. It fucked my sleep at night big time.
I've been working out and lifting with great consistency for 4 years now and made significant gains since when I started. Never once touched preworkout, nor felt that it was necessary, and am very glad I didn't waste money on it all those years. If I don't have the energy for a hard workout on a given day, I'd rather listen to my body and get the rest I need and then get back to the gym the next day than take stimulants, if I feel that tired it's probably for good reason. I enjoy the flavor or coffee but I've always been quite wary of caffeine addiction/dependence, and only drink it on rare occasions.
The thing with coffee killing your thirst and yet dehydrating you is why when I have my tri-daily cup of coffee, I have two cups of water. Everything in this video is gold. Take it one day at a time.
I am so lucky that stimulants do literally nothing for me, and I just have high energy all day till an hr or two before I go to bed. Saves me a bunch of money. Will still watch tho maybe ill learn something new.
Late to the party, but I quit coffee this past year and switched to matcha. This was such a game-changer for me that I am shocked. Matcha focuses your mind and lasts for hours, despite having a much lower caffeine content, whereas coffee seemingly only lasts until you blink before you need another cup. I do love the smell of coffee, and the taste of it, but I will probably never drink it again unless I am at my girlfriend's place and her parents are making it, or unless I'm on vacation.
The amount of time the normal caffeine in coffee last depends on multiple factors, but natural caffeine sensitivity and overall past caffeine intake are the major factors as to how much it'll affect you
Tbh coffee gives me almost no boost, as a ritual it rather calms me downs. I still chug it before training to make sure I train on empty stomach and I will not feel the need to poop during workout.
my mum actually got addicted to the caffeine in tea. which is something I at the time didn't know was in tea. she would always have 1 cup in the morning. I guess it's the ritual point you made, that was hers before she dropped us 3 siblings off to three separate schools. when she stopped drinking it every morning she actually got horrible withdrawal symptoms. seeing that I also cut down my tea and coffee consumption. no ragrets for that decision
I quit my add meds over a year ago. I havent completely mastered living with ADD but that shit wasn’t sustainable I would have died by 60 on those meds.
@@CodeineCoffee i think alot of people are told they need ADD meds when they don't and go around thinking everyone is the same. imagine you just did deadlifts and your CNS is fried and your body and mind are tired as fuck. now remove the peace of mind and runners high you might get after a workout. that's how some of us feel every day for no reason and sometimes meds can help you with that so that you can live an enjoyable life
@@Lucas-tg3hv he never mentioned proper function or any specific effect at all. People who actually need ADD medication will typically experience a steady degradation of learned executive function until they start their medication again. You can’t “master” it by willpower, but that line of thinking is a common misconception by people who don’t have it. This is speaking as someone who spent 10 years trying to “master” it naturally and only ended up routinely failing and self medicating with video games because I thought that ADD meds were bad. Suggesting that you can overcome ADD symptoms naturally is dangerous and irresponsible.
Preworkout cured my coffee addiction. Started taking preworkout ahead of my boxing sessions. Went from roughly 1.5 litres of coffee every day to 1 (135mg of caffeine) scoop of preworkout only on training days. Happened suddenly. Preworkout filled the void that no amount of coffee could
I drink coffee everyday. It’s a morning ritual I enjoy and look forward too. However, a while back I had to set boundaries for myself. First off, lowering my intake to 1 cup per day. Max 2 cups. Second, no coffee after lunch. My stomach definitely thanked me for this. Haha. Also, lowering my intake made me less dependent on it. Most days I don’t feel the need to drink it, but I do anyway because there’s just something to the smell of fresh coffee in the morning that just gets me going.
I rarely drink coffee anymore but when I lived in Korea everyone and their mum drunk coffee, its normal for everyone to drink ice Americanos a day and there was 10 coffee shops with in 200 meters of my flat. I think I used to drink about 2 cups a day and thought that normal. Thankfully the coffee in China is expensive and not as tasty as Korea.
Great points. I would argue that, for the most part, the majority of people who drink coffee on a regular basis suffer no ill side effects. They drink it regularly, their body is used to it, they don't get the jitters or anything. I haven't found a study that shows a negative side effect of a moderate amount of caffeine daily. If all caffeine supply worldwide halted, the 1% of extreme "users" would get like a headache for a day and that'd be it. If you drink coffee for taste and/or like the ritual but aren't chasing the "stim", fuck it keep doing it. Its nice and is good for you overall. We don't need to live like pleasure deprived monks.
It means that we both didnt have a brother figure to guide us, you shouldnt feel shit for it, just listen, analyze and be critical if you dissagree with something. Whatever you do, do NOT become a fanboy.
I just almost passed out and got into an accident while front squatting because ive been drinking too much that i couldnt really function comfortably because i feel too nauseous. I have decided how much of a fool i am on cultivating this addiction and would be better off without it. Its really more virtious to be able to function perfectly and without problem without the need of substances.
Never understood coffee or caffeine. It tastes bitter and it doesn't really wake me up or give me energy like they claim. I cup of water when I'm thirsty or salted water when I've been sweating does 10x more for me than coffee ever did.
Im probably never gonna fully quit caffeine and coffee. But this video opened up my eyes to the fact of the matter that it isnt healthy to take in anywhere from 200-600 mg of caffeine a day, and breaks are necessary. I cant remember the last time i took a break that lasted more than a two or three days. Its so easy to build a coffee reliance or for it to become a crutch due to the normalization of such things in modern society and cultures throughout the world. And i know it wasnt your intent but there is a certain strong character element to not drinking coffee and i think i lost some of that sometime during my college years and caffeine, weed and alcohol became some of of my best friends and were perfectly normal to a sizable percentage people i associated with. As a teen i rarely consumed coffee or caffeine products that and even when i did it was at random times or if i was offered it so as not to be rude. It wasnt so routine although my parents did indulge in the morning routine while i indulged in pan con chocolate (to all my Mexican hermanos out there who know jaja). Thankfully i was introduced pre workout supplements after a solid 6 months to a year of lifting and 2 years of track n field. Afternmy introduction it wouldnt be a routine too mucu bc part of me knew it wasnt super healthy or good to rely on it and also bc i just simply couldnt afford it at times or would share with friends. But part of me gave into that temptation and started building and addiction to it in my early 20s. Im 27 now and ive prolly been hooked on caffeine and not knowing it for 4-6 years, or at least not wanting to admit it bc part of me always knew that this wasnt good. Although i will admit i prolly will never fully quit i am deff gonna take a good break right now and take breaks much more regularly, obviously cut down on my caffeine intake when i do indulge and definitely eliminate as a routine. Man its gonna be hard looking at that brewer in the morning as i get ready lol. Great vid man!
Coffee and cigarettes addict here. Knowing how bad the debt to be payed is, is the primary impediment to quitting. I'm not sure how to plan for it and fit it into the other demands in my life. Especially while working in construction. It's been on my mind lately because the appetite suppression means I'm eating less than 2000 calories a day and not building much muscle anymore.
im addicted to caffeine, but it improves my performace so i wont stop. i cycle off of it for about a week every 2 months or so. i dont advocate people to start drinking caffeine because of the dependancy people develop. im technically dependent on it but i can mentally overcome not having caffeine if required
Hey NH, i listened to your advice and others people and decicded to stop relying on caffein few months ago, still making PRs, sleep is much improve and the migrains have stopped comepletely!
I drink coffee because i love the taste. Once a day at most, if not less, and in the morning. I don't need it before my workout. Personally, i feel nothing afertward (no effect).
I love coffee, I can drink that shit and nap after. Other sources just don’t hit the same. I don’t need it to train but I will move heaven and earth to make sure I can get a coffee in the morning lmao
I use caffeine pills on rare occasions where I need to turbofocus such as before a test, tournament, etc. Since I don't take them often I always get the 120% energy boost.
I bailed on caffeine (8-10 cups/day) last year and have never used pre-workouts. I'm not a fan of bombing my central nervous system the way I once did, and after freeing myself found I didn't need caffeine at all. Drinking caffeine, I found, was what made me need to drink more caffeine.
I dont drink alcohol, smoke, take drugs*, drink soda, energy, and apart from occasionally getting dessert in restaurant 2-3 times a month, dont have sweets... I think drinking black coffee in the mornings, and pre-workout is not going to kill me.... I did give up for 3 months, my morning workouts never felt the same. Coffee, in moderation is no bad thing. We all need something for a lift (no pun) time to time... *yeah ok, coffee's a drug, i get it...
Imma be real. I felt attacked 😂 and I know this is all true, I try to detox every couple of days but my usage has steadily risen through the years, I saw it happen and I don't like it and I'm sure it's a contributing factor to my mental state. So yeah, good vid. I track when I do and don't take caffeine during workouts and it's interesting, oftentimes I'll find myself performing just the same and feel like I am on caffeine when I'm not, which leads me to think caffeine is more psychological than physical for me. I actually met another stimulant junkie but he was hooked on the pre, said he can't workout with out it and I worried about him, told him to take a break. This video has a lot of truth to it I feel.
I had gotten off caffeine for a week a couple weeks ago. No withdrawal headaches but lack of motivation, mental clarity, and muscle explosiveness. After a week I decided to limit to 50mg a day if needed which is like half a cup of coffee. Getting over that first week is hard unless you are able to sit in your room all day not have to perform at anything. Getting that boost feels nice during the day, it really is a drug.
As once Tyler1 said about league: i fucking hate it but im addicted and i cant quit. My daily consumption since highschool has creeped up to 5-6 espressos a day, with heavy energy drink consumption in the first year of university. I need caffeine just to stay baseline and i have crazy headaches if i quit.I managed to taper down to 2-3 espresso and a tea but its so hard. At least i drink it black and i learned to train with 0 caffeine, it actually made me more focus on form and its less stressing than when im caffeinated to the max
I only drink two cups no sugar, no milk specialty coffee and I know for sure that I am addicted to it. But after this rant I am going to limit it to one cup ☕🤔
The normalization of caffeine addiction is a massively under-stated problem. It's so easy to just not think about the volume of the stuff that you end up consuming, especially since tolerance builds up.
While coffee is a diuretic it doesn’t have a net negative effect on hydration. Perhaps psychologically total hydration could be lower by Xml since you thought you drank Y amount but technically only drank X-Y amount The nail in the coffin for any supposed benefits of coffee is that the body adapts to the caffeine consumption such that initial benefits go away after some time of habitual consumption I am extremely physically dependent and sensitive to coffee to the point where I notice decreasing habitual intake by 1 mg (30 to 29mg for example). It takes me weeks to taper down as a cold turkey approach would leave me bed bound for days. In that process now after quitting a while ago and not noticing any benefits. But maybe 4 weeks wasn’t enough time for the body to correct itself I quit alcohol and didn’t notice benefits until like 2 months later
i drink coffee every morning, i just like the taste dont really feel the caffeine and i feel like i could go without it and not even notice (havent really done it much i might try it for a week to make sure i really dont feel anything), honestly if youre young and healthy in general you dont need more energy
Even a small cup of coffee (I'm brazillian, coffee here is REAL coffee, not american trash watery coffee) in the afternoon can disturb my sleep at night, even by a little amount, no amount of performance boost can make up for the lack of recovery that coffee causes, it isnt worth it at all for most of the time, I still drink it a little bit sometimes on a lower body day when I'll have a rest day after at least, but I'll eventually cut coffee out of my life forever, its a really bad drug, when the effect wears off it makes me irritable and kinda lowkey sad even...
I think that's more due to your amount of consumptiom/personal tolerance. I'm a hardcore runner (do lots of calisthenics as well) and used to run 7 days a week sometimes twice a day, would regularly drink few cups of black cofee a per day (most days I would go without though) I never notcied any withdrawl symptoms and had increased performance from the caffiene, some of my best runs were after I had drunk coffee and I know some of them would've been lackluster without it. Point i'm trying to make is maybe the key is "moderation" through the discipline of not over consuming, and knowing how much caffeiene your consuming and whether it is needed for the work your doing. This is not solely directed at you, just me disagreeing with your point about "recovery" and the general idea that caffiene = bad.
I started coffee maybe 2016. It was a smash bros tournament in USA and I'm EU, so I used it to stay awake and excited. When it was done I sat on the balcony watching the sunrise, adrenaline pumping. Caffeine's partner here is gaming addiction.
I personally weigh the pros and cons of anything i introduce into my life, I dont find there to be many downsides to caffiene so I incorporate it into my life. I enjoy caffiene for the rush like most people however i dont find it hard to wein off it so this video is probably not directed towards someone like me.
@@IsmaelDrucker NH missed the whole point of caffeine by making this video and shows that he is honestly just flaunting his cards. Even the biggest caffeine addict can ween off in a few weeks.
This video was very good. I really appreciate you uploading this. Makes we want to make my own video with my thoughts about it. I probably will. I do agree with you on almost everything here but still consume caffeine on most days and believe I have found a very good way to make it work for me, instead of becoming its slave (which has been the case when I was younger).
This came out at a crazy time. I had recently quit taking all caffeine in any form. Pill, or pre-workout. I quit drinking coffee about a year ago just to cut down on needless costs. Honestly, I took about 1500mg of caffeine a day for about 2 years (4 years ago) 5-6 days a week. I felt like I needed it due to working 50-60 hours a week of manual labor, and then going to the gym right after. Once I stopped chugging energy drinks I really didn't give my body a chance to feel better and swapped to 250mg caffeine pills, and pre-workout on my 3 workout days. I took around 3-4 of those EVERY day, and have been since Friday of last week. I have not had any "withdraw" symptoms. No headaches no shakes, etc. I guess I have had 1 symptom I honestly feel quite a bit better overall - More energy, less moody. May be placebo, but I doubt it.
heyo, this video is older but wanted a fresh comment ab pre-workout, I am 23 and I definitely agree that there are lots of people, friends included, with serious caffeine addictions, and they need to seriously look at their habits of drinking lots of coffee and double or even triple scooping pre, and knock that shit off asap. however, nowadays there are lots of pre-workouts with no-stimulants that are very effective imo, I personally take a half serving of a stimulant version and then half to a regular scoop of no-stim, and that's the only caffeine I get in my day, no coffee basically ever. I think it is an excellent balance and allows for optimal performance in the gym as I consider myself someone who trains very hard, and feel I do not have the caffeine addiction and side effects, and have no issues sleeping at night or staying asleep. all in all consume in moderation and don't let yourselves go down the rabbit hole. edit- i also workout after my school/work is completed so i do not know how it would differ if i lifted in the morning then went about my day.
I was addicted to caffein. It started very slow, I had been drinking coffee since I was 15. I've always had problems with falling asleep (since I was past the toddler stage) so coffee was a blessing for me. That was until my consumption started to ramp up and I was fully addicted. Started my morning with a big mug of coffe, around 0,5L, at 9 when I had a break from work I would take 2 cups of coffee, at lunch 1-2 cups, at 15 one cup and I would bring or buy a high caffein dose energy drink (180mg) before hitting the gym. My insomnia problems got worse. I got sick all the time, stagnation in the gym and was not functioning at all without coffee. I had enough and early 2019 I just stopped cold turkey The first two weeks was painful, alot of tiredness and headache, but it got better. After 2 months I would sometimes drink green tea, some days of the week and I stayed away from sodas (more caffein than you think). After a year I started to introduce both caffein free and caffeinated coffe just a couple of days in my weeks, because I still enjoy the taste. It's been the same since 2020. My sleep got better within a month and while I do struggle to fall asleep, it usually takes 15-20 min nowadays. I enjoy coffee a couple of days per week but I stay very cautious and if I have high work stress I don't drink it. I never drink it before the gym or in the afternoon. TL;DR - curb your caffein addiction, it will only benefit you.
Personally there was a time where I could not sleep as much as I wanted so I was taking coffee every morning before work. At first it worked well to help me stay focused and awake, but after a few weeks, I had to take more and more, not to be focused and awake but only to be in my normal state, that's when I knew that I had to stop drinking stimulants every day. I did it progressively since stopping it at first gave me some headaches for a few days
I deeply want to sleep more than 9 hours, but I have a kid. I can't go to bed at 8pm like I want to because my 4 year old just WILL NOT go to bed until 9pm. Cortisol won't decrease for a while after that, so I end up sleeping at 9:30pm. Before I became a parent I went to bed at 8pm and woke up at 4am. Man that was a good time
I don't drink coffee , and i disagree with u that this video doesn't concern me ! actually u saved me going down this road , cause i always thought that i was the weird one for not drinking ANY of this stuff AT ALL .. (no pre-workout , no coffee , no Energy drinks , etc) and always people saying : ("Coffee is so healthy with TONs of benefits and almost no cons" and every successful human drinks it and that's how to be more productive .. and don't worry about the draw back and addictions u just "DELOAD" for a week or two then go back to drinking it) .. so i gave it ago , i HATED the taste and the smell .. but i forced myself to drink one cup each day or every other day .. but i guess now i was in the right and i don't need to force myself and thinking my Low Energy level is because i don't drink coffee like them . so Thanks for making this video , it helped me see that i was in the Right and i'll stay coffee free
How it started: lifting for size, strength and health
How it's going: spiralling caffeine addiction😎
@@iangraham-white5717 happened to my buddy Eric
@@AsadoMao We lost our Eric to this heinous villainous substance as well ToT
spiraling caffeine, pre workout, energy drink addiction.
Press F for the croissant crumb stuck in my moustache at the start of the video...
Smh my pastry addiction is getting out of control
Jokes on you, I’m blind and didn’t see it until you mentioned it
3:23 the legendary fall of the croissant crumb
360p gang 💀
So your problem is not with coffee it's addiction?? Well when is the last time you skipped the gym???
(Not attacking just engaging)
You call that a moustache? I lift with girls at gym who have thicker moustache than that pathetic stain above your lip
Ah yes, a new "Hypertrophie Naturelle" (in french) documentary release. Of course i like it before watching it.
I gotta thank NH for helping me learn to think for myself. Actually critically think about shit people think is normal. Caffeine aside but life as a whole. Always been somewhat of a freethinker but he's always opened my mind to the idea about questioning litterally everything. It can be frustrating though considering that most people don't even wanna discuss any topics they find sensitive or taboo
Stopped excessive Pre workout, coffee and Energie drink consumtion 2 weeks ago. Was tired for about a week and a half, training was hard as hell. Now I feel a lot better without these substances. Training is still hard but it gets better!
Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
Yep, excessive use also fucked me up as it got me super paranoid and anxiety ridden.
I watched this from start to finish as someone who for years hasn't consumed a milligram of caffeine (or any other stimulant/drug in general for that matter) and it was a superb take on stimulants and the attitudes of the people who are addicted to them. I highly appreciated how you so eloquently put into words the thoughts and arguments that I personally can't be assed to come up with when talking to coffee/energy drink addicts.
So no sugar?
@@raymondiii4601 You bet.
@@raymondiii4601 sugar is way worse than caffeine
Look into the body's mechanism called The Randle Cycle
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Me 2 hours after having caffeine: is this stuff working? i dont really feel much different
Me 20 hours after having caffeine: DEAR GOD PLEASE FORGIVE ME, I JUST WANT TO GO TO SLEEP FUCKKKKKK
Literally cannot relate more. This is my perfect description.
Yep
Drinking coffee after 2 hours: you are now a prisoner as your dehydrated eyes are forced to stare at the blue light screen
‘I wipe my ass with morality, I don’t care about that.’ Quote of the year right there. Get that framed on your wall
Pretty cringe when you take it out of context ngl
@@user-ks3mk9kq4l Yh. I laughed pretty hard during the video though. Perfect timing
I personally like being addicted to methamphetamine and lifting.
Fun fact, back when jack3d was sold legally, people basically WERE lifting weights on meth. Some of the stories are crazy, I know a guy who used to take it all the time
@@shades4313 I personally enjoy snorting a line of cocaine before deadlifts.
@@GibsonReal I mix it with chalk so it enters my bloodstream when my hand bleeds
😀
I smoke crack before Clean and Press.
Based Ligma Lifter Gang where u at?
Directions unclear, I downed an entire jar of Gorilla Mode pre workout (I’m not being serious, I would never purchase preworkout)
Based fellow Gorilla Mode ™️ enjoyer
@@krys421 I would never purchase a jar of that under any circumstances 😂
@@BaldOmniMan noooooo I've been made. In all seriousness I was against pre workouts too but the pump and energy is super fun, I take mine 4 days a week because I only lift 4 days a week.
@@krys421 that’s respectable 🤝 two men on separate paths
@@BaldOmniMan hell yeah man 🦍🦍🦍
I'm very addicted to caffeine. Went to jail last year and got MAD headaches til I got coffee on commissary first time haha
what did you do to go to jail? are you a grapist?
@@carlosdelsol76 probably a cereal thriller
not funny haha
When my uncle was in jail, one of the main things he asked us to send him in care packages was Folgers Crystals. That, and CremeSavers, that hard candy
if you went to jail...
you have worse problems than drinking coffee.
fix that. low life criminal
NH gold. Absolute perfection.
Regards, caffeine addict with 2 young kids.
I’ve been told that I need to get my caffeine consumption under control by multiple people but this is the first thing that has genuinely made me think about my reliance on caffeine as well as why I got so defensive when people told me I needed to stop. Anyways, I’ve lessened my consumption from about 300-600mg daily to 0-150mg. I plan on going completely off of it for a period of time fairly soon and possibly re-introducing it on occasion and in moderate doses further into the future when I’ve proved to myself that I am no longer reliant on it. The video was very thought provoking, thanks NH.
You : worries about 300/600 mg a day
Me : 600/1000 a day (1000 on a cut😎)
@@psilocybinenthusiast5200 bro.
@@shadow_realm47 when I work a 12 hour day (a lot of labour involved) and then go train for an hour and half it’s needed on a cut or I just won’t make it past squats. 600 isn’t even that bad tbh the recommended daily max is like 400.
@@psilocybinenthusiast5200are you still alive?
@@internetuser9342 yeh. Caffeine is a miracle drug still on about 600mg a day. Resting heart rate 48 bpm at medical a few weeks ago can’t be that unhealthy.
This is anecdotal of course but back when I was in college I was drinking 3-5 cups a day. I think this is one of the reasons I had such bad anxiety at the time. I remember one day I was studying for a math final and had like my 5th cup of coffee that day and I completely lost it. I thought I was having a heart attack. Of course it could of been multitude of other things that contributed to this but I definitely think that much coffee contributed to the physical effects of that panic attack. I've since then cut down to a cup every other morning and I can definitely see an improvement overall with my anxiety.
I just started college and I’m trying my best to prevent that. It’s weird watching my freshman roommates spiral though. My generation has a *almost* complete lack of self discipline.
@@GibsonReal my biggest advice for you is to plan your study time. You don't have to cram. If you know you have a test in a few weeks set a 2 week time period to study and sleep.
@@user-ui8my9zs7o I appreciate the advice, thank you sir. I’ve taken a 56 credits worth of college classes in high school so I’m not unfamiliar with planing for homework; but I’ve never really studied before.
its not anecdotal.
coffee and anxiety are correlated.
I gave up caffeine and it was the best decision I made in my life for my health. When I consumed caffeine, I did not reach deep states of sleep and I was always tired. I was also extremely alert and would wake up at any noise in the middle of the night.
This state of alertness aggravated a anxiety problem I have (basically the muscles in my neck would get extremely tense out of nowhere) and to "treat" this a doctor prescribed me Valium, shortly after I realized that this was really fucked up, so I cutted off every single drug, and now I'm better than ever.
sad thing that I havent seen this video before, thanks for your videos bro
I tried to quit coffee for years until I finally got it a few months ago. Now I can sleep properly but then I never felt drowsy, I had to go to bed and force myself to sleep and had trouble waking up. I can't stress enough how much impact this had on my mental health, forcing yourself to sleep is not the same thing as sleeping when you are tired and as humans we need the latter. Now I fall asleep easily and wake up between 6 and 7am without an alarm. My teeth turned yellow, unfortunately I didn't see any progress since I quit. At least they are not getting worse, which I'm sure they would if I didn't stop.
Maybe go to a dentist with it?
Honestly, you posit some good points in this video. I’ve been drinking coffee since I was around 14 years old, and I really enjoyed the taste, as well as the feeling of alertness it gave me after consuming it. I’ve always had a bit of coffee here and there, and I was always a decently active kid so I thought it was perfectly fine to have some coffee before I would train since I thought I could make use of the energy. It wasn’t until last year that I started to use preworkout, especially since I really wanted to hit big numbers in the gym. But honestly, after achieving some big PRs that I’m proud of, I’m not so fussed about making gigantic leaps in progress and much rather take the slow route from here on out. Besides that, it’s not like I’m a construction worker, or as you said, someone who works night shift (not anymore at least), so it’s not like I absolutely require the stimulants to get through the day. Even then, my father works manual labour to this day, yet he doesn’t drink anywhere near the amount of caffeine he does in his typical routine, and that’s on top of also going to the gym and playing soccer for him! All these things considered, I’m gonna start weening off the caffeine slowly, if I want to enjoy coffee for the taste, I’ll just have decaf.
No it helps my sigma male grindset
Drive forever!!
But if you only have the grindset with coffee do you really have the grindset?
@@hozerberto4886 Yes
If you have to call yourself sigma then you are most likely a beta!
@@dustencross357 ok omega
I've been drinking black coffee since age 13. I love the taste, the ritual, the bonding, the process of making it. I also like the cuisine aspects of where the coffee comes from. And I've been drinking it so long (I'm 39), it does nothing for my energy levels. But I've had no illusions about my addiction. Coffee affects my sleep negatively and contributes to my racing mind. It still makes me have an hour-long bleary-eyed waking up process in the morning. I need it for every longish drive. I enjoy decaf a lot too. I think it's time for me to cut back and maybe even get rid of the caffeine altogether.
I watched the whole video. I do appreciate your compassionate and passionate attitude
Just a quick comment, there is a documented phenomenon called the “backfire effect”. The backfire effect happens when you criticize a “core belief” of someone (in this video the backfire effect happens to people when you criticized people’s coffee addiction). This also happens all the time with people when you talk to them about politics or religion. The backfire effect is interesting because when people experience it the “fight or flight” areas of the brain light up like a firework.
i love me happy n cigs man, im bout to die to fight for them, muh freedom cant be taken away
Quitting caffeine is the number one best thing I’ve ever done in my life. Nothing comes close. I quit when I was 25. For my whole life I thought I had crazy bad anxiety. It was the caffeine. It’s insane
So you don’t even eat chocolate? Because I know from experience, if you go cold Turkey on caffeine but then have a piece of chocolate, it hits HARD
Informing young people is really helpful. Should add in that obviously as you pointed at is that “Don’t see pleasure for its own sake”. Accepting the boredom of daily life is much more beneficial than short-term pleasure.
Thank you for being kind enough and sharing this information.
Fuck it, I'm quitting coffee even though I only use it sparingly. If I fall asleep at work tonight I'm blaming you Nat
Nat is so much better than NH, I'll start using that
I've been trying to quit caffine because I noticed a lot of the things mentioned in the video, but its been hard, and I was about to flake on trying, but this vid definitely gave me the push I needed to try to systematically quit it, and make quitting it a priority.
Thanks for tlaking about this seriously, becauso in this fitness community there are alot of people addicted to this.
I have been caffeine dependient since about 2017 I guess. Now I only take a monster or 2 and a hald teaspoon of coffee when I train ( 3 times a week). The worst you can do to cut off caffeine is not taking it. You need to slowly consume less and less
Ah yes, another SLOW BURN 4 HOUR KINO from the frenchman
What a great way to finish the day
i once dated a girl who was so addicted to coffee that we would go on a walk date along the city, in the city there are automated machines all over and i kid you not we would walk for 20 mins and she would stop every time and buy a cup of coffee from the machine, she probably drank 5-6 coffees on that date, at the first 2-3 cups i laughed it off but after that i was really concerned for her but she acted like it was normal later she told me that at home she would drink 10 BIG CUPS OF COFFEES A DAY and i mean like JARS OF COFFES not small cups, she ghosted me after 2 weeks of dating
Day 33 of asking NH to make a video on how to get a gf.
#releasethefrenchgame
#releasethegfcharacterstudy
#ReleaseTheGF
Literally just talk to girls
invite a girl over for coffee
@@user-to6bt7vq1r that’s what I am asking.How to talk to chicks the French way.
@@sir0nion and be used for free coffee? Non.Viva la révolution!
It is very ironic and telling, that it is currently 1:55 AM over here and I am drinking coffee to stay awake, to try and tire myself for the next night, so I can sleep LMAO. It's an old strategy of mine to stay awake all night when my sleep schedule gets fucked, to restart myself, but as you've said, this takes a toll.
And what you've said starting at 48:48 really made me think and look back at my own coffee habits. I never drank coffee until like 2011, when people at work pushed me towards it, because they said it was just a good thing to do for work. Over the coming years, it slowly became a habit of mine to drink coffee, to the point where i would drink it every day, often several times a day. And then, around the end of 2017, i started to actually drink alcohol on a regular basis too, when before I would never do that either. And then that also became a daily routine, to the point where now i have to give all my money to relatives, so that I can't buy it anymore LOL. As you've mentioned, most seem to go with the coffee and cigarettes combo, but I seem to have developed coffee and booze combo, which now that I think about it, is likely the real reason why my sleep is horrible, and I've developed brain fog and memory problems. My sleep has been fucked up by these drugs for several years at this point.
Good luck kitty. You got this.
i've thought about it for some while but your video hit the nail on the coffin.
I will try to quit taking caffeine starting now.
Will it screw me over for the next days? Probably. It will feel painful since i am so used to binge consume caffeine, but i NEED that balance in my life!
My sleep is shit, my anxieties are at an all time high. some performance boost is just not worth it for me.
Wish me luck brothers.
I hope you are still off.
@@tuukkai1841 it's been 6 days since i quit caffeine.
@@sasukeuchihaa1447 how’re u doing 6 months later?
@@alexjohnson3774 i've started taking caffeine aggain. my sleep has gotten better because i stop taking caffeine after 12:00
i also don't take as much caffeine as i used to
@@sasukeuchihaa1447 that’s good to hear man. Today is my first day without it, I plan on going for at least a week or two. I used to consume 300-600 mg a day and although I never had a surge in energy. It fucked my sleep at night big time.
Day 1 of asking NH what to do when you fall a rep in an evolving rep range
Don't panic it's no big deal. Just take an hour long bath before your next set.
@@hemingway3508 replace your fruits and vegetables with a cup of orange juice in the mornings too, it's more effective
@@krys421 I can't believe I forgot that crucial step. Sorry
take a bath in between sets
You need to take a bath as soon as possible to repair your muscles
I've been working out and lifting with great consistency for 4 years now and made significant gains since when I started. Never once touched preworkout, nor felt that it was necessary, and am very glad I didn't waste money on it all those years. If I don't have the energy for a hard workout on a given day, I'd rather listen to my body and get the rest I need and then get back to the gym the next day than take stimulants, if I feel that tired it's probably for good reason. I enjoy the flavor or coffee but I've always been quite wary of caffeine addiction/dependence, and only drink it on rare occasions.
I was VERY addicted to caffeine. But eventually I had a mental breakdown and quit. I'm like 5 or 6 years clean. Feels good man.
The thing with coffee killing your thirst and yet dehydrating you is why when I have my tri-daily cup of coffee, I have two cups of water. Everything in this video is gold. Take it one day at a time.
24:58 you forgot lifting. Oxygen, water, food, sleep, lifting and social interaction. The big 6. (We can discus the order)
I am so lucky that stimulants do literally nothing for me, and I just have high energy all day till an hr or two before I go to bed. Saves me a bunch of money. Will still watch tho maybe ill learn something new.
Up the dose
@@Croissantrophy.meme.channel hahahahah das da spirit nigga
Watching while drinking coffee after an energy
Late to the party, but I quit coffee this past year and switched to matcha. This was such a game-changer for me that I am shocked. Matcha focuses your mind and lasts for hours, despite having a much lower caffeine content, whereas coffee seemingly only lasts until you blink before you need another cup. I do love the smell of coffee, and the taste of it, but I will probably never drink it again unless I am at my girlfriend's place and her parents are making it, or unless I'm on vacation.
The amount of time the normal caffeine in coffee last depends on multiple factors, but natural caffeine sensitivity and overall past caffeine intake are the major factors as to how much it'll affect you
Tbh coffee gives me almost no boost, as a ritual it rather calms me downs. I still chug it before training to make sure I train on empty stomach and I will not feel the need to poop during workout.
Thanks for the motivation. I've been starting to replace coffee with ginger tea
my mum actually got addicted to the caffeine in tea.
which is something I at the time didn't know was in tea.
she would always have 1 cup in the morning. I guess it's the ritual point you made, that was hers before she dropped us 3 siblings off to three separate schools.
when she stopped drinking it every morning she actually got horrible withdrawal symptoms.
seeing that I also cut down my tea and coffee consumption. no ragrets for that decision
I quit my add meds over a year ago. I havent completely mastered living with ADD but that shit wasn’t sustainable I would have died by 60 on those meds.
Early death and high functioning life?? That sounds like a win win to me
If ADD meds made you feel hyped or mimiced the effects of a pre workout in any way, you either didn't need them or the dose was too high.
@@CodeineCoffee usually true how ever he didn't mention hype simply proper function
@@CodeineCoffee i think alot of people are told they need ADD meds when they don't and go around thinking everyone is the same.
imagine you just did deadlifts and your CNS is fried and your body and mind are tired as fuck. now remove the peace of mind and runners high you might get after a workout. that's how some of us feel every day for no reason and sometimes meds can help you with that so that you can live an enjoyable life
@@Lucas-tg3hv he never mentioned proper function or any specific effect at all. People who actually need ADD medication will typically experience a steady degradation of learned executive function until they start their medication again. You can’t “master” it by willpower, but that line of thinking is a common misconception by people who don’t have it. This is speaking as someone who spent 10 years trying to “master” it naturally and only ended up routinely failing and self medicating with video games because I thought that ADD meds were bad. Suggesting that you can overcome ADD symptoms naturally is dangerous and irresponsible.
Preworkout cured my coffee addiction. Started taking preworkout ahead of my boxing sessions. Went from roughly 1.5 litres of coffee every day to 1 (135mg of caffeine) scoop of preworkout only on training days. Happened suddenly. Preworkout filled the void that no amount of coffee could
Listened to this and reflected over a few days….
42:59 "and this is the coffee vicious circle, that many people enter."
*takes sip of coffee
:P
yes i totally agree but i like it and i refuse to change
I drink coffee everyday. It’s a morning ritual I enjoy and look forward too.
However, a while back I had to set boundaries for myself. First off, lowering my intake to 1 cup per day. Max 2 cups. Second, no coffee after lunch.
My stomach definitely thanked me for this. Haha. Also, lowering my intake made me less dependent on it. Most days I don’t feel the need to drink it, but I do anyway because there’s just something to the smell of fresh coffee in the morning that just gets me going.
nah its just your addiction lol
keep it up bro
@@ruthless7879 wrong
Serious question: if its the ritual thats important, why not switch to decaf? Afaik its the same taste, without the stimulating effect.
Decaf is still stimulating
tysm!! had my last monster zero weeks ago because of this video
I rarely drink coffee anymore but when I lived in Korea everyone and their mum drunk coffee, its normal for everyone to drink ice Americanos a day and there was 10 coffee shops with in 200 meters of my flat. I think I used to drink about 2 cups a day and thought that normal. Thankfully the coffee in China is expensive and not as tasty as Korea.
Next month: Ello utube this video is about your protein addiction and why I dislike it. If you eat food, you're a wimp.
just fast 24 hours bro 😀
@@anandhua.b4589 Repeat every 24 hours as necessary.
Thank you for reminding me of that café song, to the playlist it goes.
Even if im not your target audience, I still learn a lot about how to construct my argument when people in my life need this kind of advice.
Great points. I would argue that, for the most part, the majority of people who drink coffee on a regular basis suffer no ill side effects. They drink it regularly, their body is used to it, they don't get the jitters or anything. I haven't found a study that shows a negative side effect of a moderate amount of caffeine daily. If all caffeine supply worldwide halted, the 1% of extreme "users" would get like a headache for a day and that'd be it.
If you drink coffee for taste and/or like the ritual but aren't chasing the "stim", fuck it keep doing it. Its nice and is good for you overall. We don't need to live like pleasure deprived monks.
I think you’re wrong on the no side effects. Just because you don’t get the stim doesn’t mean there aren’t any underlying issues going on
I only drink one cup a day and still get withdrawals, if moderate consumption didn't have an effect they wouldn't do it at all
But what if the stimulant that I'm addicted to is NH sir and his videos??
seek help
Then i have the regret to announce you that you have to unsubcribe and say "goodbye yuchub"
It means that we both didnt have a brother figure to guide us, you shouldnt feel shit for it, just listen, analyze and be critical if you dissagree with something.
Whatever you do, do NOT become a fanboy.
Parasocial
@@GuillaumeLeValiant 😭
I just almost passed out and got into an accident while front squatting because ive been drinking too much that i couldnt really function comfortably because i feel too nauseous. I have decided how much of a fool i am on cultivating this addiction and would be better off without it. Its really more virtious to be able to function perfectly and without problem without the need of substances.
Never understood coffee or caffeine.
It tastes bitter and it doesn't really wake me up or give me energy like they claim.
I cup of water when I'm thirsty or salted water when I've been sweating does 10x more for me than coffee ever did.
Im probably never gonna fully quit caffeine and coffee. But this video opened up my eyes to the fact of the matter that it isnt healthy to take in anywhere from 200-600 mg of caffeine a day, and breaks are necessary. I cant remember the last time i took a break that lasted more than a two or three days. Its so easy to build a coffee reliance or for it to become a crutch due to the normalization of such things in modern society and cultures throughout the world. And i know it wasnt your intent but there is a certain strong character element to not drinking coffee and i think i lost some of that sometime during my college years and caffeine, weed and alcohol became some of of my best friends and were perfectly normal to a sizable percentage people i associated with. As a teen i rarely consumed coffee or caffeine products that and even when i did it was at random times or if i was offered it so as not to be rude. It wasnt so routine although my parents did indulge in the morning routine while i indulged in pan con chocolate (to all my Mexican hermanos out there who know jaja). Thankfully i was introduced pre workout supplements after a solid 6 months to a year of lifting and 2 years of track n field. Afternmy introduction it wouldnt be a routine too mucu bc part of me knew it wasnt super healthy or good to rely on it and also bc i just simply couldnt afford it at times or would share with friends. But part of me gave into that temptation and started building and addiction to it in my early 20s. Im 27 now and ive prolly been hooked on caffeine and not knowing it for 4-6 years, or at least not wanting to admit it bc part of me always knew that this wasnt good. Although i will admit i prolly will never fully quit i am deff gonna take a good break right now and take breaks much more regularly, obviously cut down on my caffeine intake when i do indulge and definitely eliminate as a routine. Man its gonna be hard looking at that brewer in the morning as i get ready lol. Great vid man!
I’m lucky to be part of the crew that wants to go back to sleep after drinking coffee
Coffee and cigarettes addict here. Knowing how bad the debt to be payed is, is the primary impediment to quitting. I'm not sure how to plan for it and fit it into the other demands in my life. Especially while working in construction.
It's been on my mind lately because the appetite suppression means I'm eating less than 2000 calories a day and not building much muscle anymore.
"Well, not right now.. BUSTER, but eventually it will."
😂😂
Your videos are really useful to start thinking, thank you!!!
im addicted to caffeine, but it improves my performace so i wont stop. i cycle off of it for about a week every 2 months or so. i dont advocate people to start drinking caffeine because of the dependancy people develop. im technically dependent on it but i can mentally overcome not having caffeine if required
Hey NH, i listened to your advice and others people and decicded to stop relying on caffein few months ago, still making PRs, sleep is much improve and the migrains have stopped comepletely!
I drink coffee because i love the taste. Once a day at most, if not less, and in the morning. I don't need it before my workout. Personally, i feel nothing afertward (no effect).
saw the whole video and yes i agreed i need to quit i drink about 700 mgs a day i guess, i need it to function now a days...
I love coffee, I can drink that shit and nap after. Other sources just don’t hit the same. I don’t need it to train but I will move heaven and earth to make sure I can get a coffee in the morning lmao
being actually dependent on anything more that the bare necessities is imo a problem
Imagine being dependant on water lmao i just recycle my own piss
@@9999-k9q based and independent pilled??
I use caffeine pills on rare occasions where I need to turbofocus such as before a test, tournament, etc. Since I don't take them often I always get the 120% energy boost.
I bailed on caffeine (8-10 cups/day) last year and have never used pre-workouts. I'm not a fan of bombing my central nervous system the way I once did, and after freeing myself found I didn't need caffeine at all. Drinking caffeine, I found, was what made me need to drink more caffeine.
I dont drink alcohol, smoke, take drugs*, drink soda, energy, and apart from occasionally getting dessert in restaurant 2-3 times a month, dont have sweets... I think drinking black coffee in the mornings, and pre-workout is not going to kill me.... I did give up for 3 months, my morning workouts never felt the same. Coffee, in moderation is no bad thing. We all need something for a lift (no pun) time to time...
*yeah ok, coffee's a drug, i get it...
Imma be real. I felt attacked 😂 and I know this is all true, I try to detox every couple of days but my usage has steadily risen through the years, I saw it happen and I don't like it and I'm sure it's a contributing factor to my mental state. So yeah, good vid. I track when I do and don't take caffeine during workouts and it's interesting, oftentimes I'll find myself performing just the same and feel like I am on caffeine when I'm not, which leads me to think caffeine is more psychological than physical for me. I actually met another stimulant junkie but he was hooked on the pre, said he can't workout with out it and I worried about him, told him to take a break. This video has a lot of truth to it I feel.
I had gotten off caffeine for a week a couple weeks ago. No withdrawal headaches but lack of motivation, mental clarity, and muscle explosiveness. After a week I decided to limit to 50mg a day if needed which is like half a cup of coffee. Getting over that first week is hard unless you are able to sit in your room all day not have to perform at anything. Getting that boost feels nice during the day, it really is a drug.
As once Tyler1 said about league: i fucking hate it but im addicted and i cant quit. My daily consumption since highschool has creeped up to 5-6 espressos a day, with heavy energy drink consumption in the first year of university. I need caffeine just to stay baseline and i have crazy headaches if i quit.I managed to taper down to 2-3 espresso and a tea but its so hard. At least i drink it black and i learned to train with 0 caffeine, it actually made me more focus on form and its less stressing than when im caffeinated to the max
I only drink two cups no sugar, no milk specialty coffee and I know for sure that I am addicted to it. But after this rant I am going to limit it to one cup ☕🤔
The normalization of caffeine addiction is a massively under-stated problem. It's so easy to just not think about the volume of the stuff that you end up consuming, especially since tolerance builds up.
Here after watching eric bugenhagen consuming 20 tablespoons of coffee and an ounce of water in one setting lmao
Parasocial greek yogurt
Almond butter character study
Educated frozen cherries
😂😂😂
Road to bigger manga
While coffee is a diuretic it doesn’t have a net negative effect on hydration. Perhaps psychologically total hydration could be lower by Xml since you thought you drank Y amount but technically only drank X-Y amount
The nail in the coffin for any supposed benefits of coffee is that the body adapts to the caffeine consumption such that initial benefits go away after some time of habitual consumption
I am extremely physically dependent and sensitive to coffee to the point where I notice decreasing habitual intake by 1 mg (30 to 29mg for example). It takes me weeks to taper down as a cold turkey approach would leave me bed bound for days. In that process now after quitting a while ago and not noticing any benefits. But maybe 4 weeks wasn’t enough time for the body to correct itself
I quit alcohol and didn’t notice benefits until like 2 months later
i drink coffee every morning, i just like the taste dont really feel the caffeine and i feel like i could go without it and not even notice (havent really done it much i might try it for a week to make sure i really dont feel anything), honestly if youre young and healthy in general you dont need more energy
Coffee is bad ... lemme grab my coffee lol 14:22
It’s water
Even a small cup of coffee (I'm brazillian, coffee here is REAL coffee, not american trash watery coffee) in the afternoon can disturb my sleep at night, even by a little amount, no amount of performance boost can make up for the lack of recovery that coffee causes, it isnt worth it at all for most of the time, I still drink it a little bit sometimes on a lower body day when I'll have a rest day after at least, but I'll eventually cut coffee out of my life forever, its a really bad drug, when the effect wears off it makes me irritable and kinda lowkey sad even...
I think that's more due to your amount of consumptiom/personal tolerance. I'm a hardcore runner (do lots of calisthenics as well) and used to run 7 days a week sometimes twice a day, would regularly drink few cups of black cofee a per day (most days I would go without though) I never notcied any withdrawl symptoms and had increased performance from the caffiene, some of my best runs were after I had drunk coffee and I know some of them would've been lackluster without it. Point i'm trying to make is maybe the key is "moderation" through the discipline of not over consuming, and knowing how much caffeiene your consuming and whether it is needed for the work your doing. This is not solely directed at you, just me disagreeing with your point about "recovery" and the general idea that caffiene = bad.
Such a bright man .
Fat free Cherries
Buttered Greek Almond
Frozen Yoghurt
Baths in between sets...
1:00:29 is literally me. i just drink black coffee in the morning and thats it.
I have the attention span of a literal legume ToT.
watching this while drinking coffee
I started coffee maybe 2016.
It was a smash bros tournament in USA and I'm EU, so I used it to stay awake and excited.
When it was done I sat on the balcony watching the sunrise, adrenaline pumping.
Caffeine's partner here is gaming addiction.
I don't drink much coffee lately. I still game too much, and I'm starting to see that as part of the lack of energy.
Will be hard to fix
I personally weigh the pros and cons of anything i introduce into my life, I dont find there to be many downsides to caffiene so I incorporate it into my life. I enjoy caffiene for the rush like most people however i dont find it hard to wein off it so this video is probably not directed towards someone like me.
Yes, in my case I can not workout with out 2 scoops of preworkout. Im a junkie.
@@IsmaelDrucker NH missed the whole point of caffeine by making this video and shows that he is honestly just flaunting his cards.
Even the biggest caffeine addict can ween off in a few weeks.
This video was very good. I really appreciate you uploading this. Makes we want to make my own video with my thoughts about it. I probably will.
I do agree with you on almost everything here but still consume caffeine on most days and believe I have found a very good way to make it work for me, instead of becoming its slave (which has been the case when I was younger).
This came out at a crazy time. I had recently quit taking all caffeine in any form. Pill, or pre-workout. I quit drinking coffee about a year ago just to cut down on needless costs. Honestly, I took about 1500mg of caffeine a day for about 2 years (4 years ago) 5-6 days a week. I felt like I needed it due to working 50-60 hours a week of manual labor, and then going to the gym right after.
Once I stopped chugging energy drinks I really didn't give my body a chance to feel better and swapped to 250mg caffeine pills, and pre-workout on my 3 workout days. I took around 3-4 of those EVERY day, and have been since Friday of last week. I have not had any "withdraw" symptoms. No headaches no shakes, etc. I guess I have had 1 symptom I honestly feel quite a bit better overall - More energy, less moody. May be placebo, but I doubt it.
I love my cup of joey
heyo, this video is older but wanted a fresh comment ab pre-workout, I am 23 and I definitely agree that there are lots of people, friends included, with serious caffeine addictions, and they need to seriously look at their habits of drinking lots of coffee and double or even triple scooping pre, and knock that shit off asap. however, nowadays there are lots of pre-workouts with no-stimulants that are very effective imo, I personally take a half serving of a stimulant version and then half to a regular scoop of no-stim, and that's the only caffeine I get in my day, no coffee basically ever. I think it is an excellent balance and allows for optimal performance in the gym as I consider myself someone who trains very hard, and feel I do not have the caffeine addiction and side effects, and have no issues sleeping at night or staying asleep. all in all consume in moderation and don't let yourselves go down the rabbit hole. edit- i also workout after my school/work is completed so i do not know how it would differ if i lifted in the morning then went about my day.
I was addicted to caffein. It started very slow, I had been drinking coffee since I was 15. I've always had problems with falling asleep (since I was past the toddler stage) so coffee was a blessing for me. That was until my consumption started to ramp up and I was fully addicted. Started my morning with a big mug of coffe, around 0,5L, at 9 when I had a break from work I would take 2 cups of coffee, at lunch 1-2 cups, at 15 one cup and I would bring or buy a high caffein dose energy drink (180mg) before hitting the gym. My insomnia problems got worse. I got sick all the time, stagnation in the gym and was not functioning at all without coffee. I had enough and early 2019 I just stopped cold turkey
The first two weeks was painful, alot of tiredness and headache, but it got better. After 2 months I would sometimes drink green tea, some days of the week and I stayed away from sodas (more caffein than you think). After a year I started to introduce both caffein free and caffeinated coffe just a couple of days in my weeks, because I still enjoy the taste. It's been the same since 2020. My sleep got better within a month and while I do struggle to fall asleep, it usually takes 15-20 min nowadays. I enjoy coffee a couple of days per week but I stay very cautious and if I have high work stress I don't drink it. I never drink it before the gym or in the afternoon.
TL;DR - curb your caffein addiction, it will only benefit you.
Gonna try to only drink coffee on the days I have to get up early and train before work, so probably 3x a week! Thanks NH.
If you quit caffeine
Can you make a video on variation of deadlifts like stiff legged rdls and especially snatch grip
Personally there was a time where I could not sleep as much as I wanted so I was taking coffee every morning before work. At first it worked well to help me stay focused and awake, but after a few weeks, I had to take more and more, not to be focused and awake but only to be in my normal state, that's when I knew that I had to stop drinking stimulants every day. I did it progressively since stopping it at first gave me some headaches for a few days
No coffee no tea no pre gang💪🏻💪🏻
I deeply want to sleep more than 9 hours, but I have a kid. I can't go to bed at 8pm like I want to because my 4 year old just WILL NOT go to bed until 9pm. Cortisol won't decrease for a while after that, so I end up sleeping at 9:30pm. Before I became a parent I went to bed at 8pm and woke up at 4am. Man that was a good time
I don't drink coffee , and i disagree with u that this video doesn't concern me !
actually u saved me going down this road , cause i always thought that i was the weird one for not drinking ANY of this stuff AT ALL .. (no pre-workout , no coffee , no Energy drinks , etc)
and always people saying :
("Coffee is so healthy with TONs of benefits and almost no cons" and every successful human drinks it and that's how to be more productive .. and don't worry about the draw back and addictions u just "DELOAD" for a week or two then go back to drinking it) ..
so i gave it ago , i HATED the taste and the smell .. but i forced myself to drink one cup each day or every other day ..
but i guess now i was in the right and i don't need to force myself and thinking my Low Energy level is because i don't drink coffee like them .
so Thanks for making this video , it helped me see that i was in the Right and i'll stay coffee free