The mom annoyed me so bad, how is it hard to choose your kids???? My kids come before ANYBODY! & The fact that Jeff got mad because karamo is trying to heal the mom & kid’s relationship? Clearly he’s jealous of her children, just childish it’s really sad. Those kids deserve healing, answers & all the above a loving & nurturing mother.
@@stigeyrose4395that’s exactly what I was thinking…an update. Kids or him. There is the cycle of abuse But what I sense was the past drug addiction. That man (in my own opinion.), became her new addiction.
THIS SON. idk WHO raised these children but they were respectful and strong and still thought highly of her even when she doesn’t herself. Even when he’s seen the WORST moments of hers. I PRAY for someone to stick by my side as strong as they did. Dang
The only positive I can see out of this... her son is brilliant and handles his emotions very well. The way he speaks is going to be great for his own family. "I'm not leaving my kids to be with you." That's a statement that I feel at my core. Basically, he doesn't want to be like his mother and it actually is helping him be a great dad. The little sister I hope she has gained a lot from her brother.
The children seem like solid, and good people for real. They did not deserve to go through all of that :( sadly, it’s never “just” the woman in an abusive relationship who is suffering from it. The kids were suffering just as much (if not more). I wanna hug em both ❤️
What's disgusting is she hasn't been there for her kids and they're just asking for her love and care. It doesn't matter how old you are that doesn't stop you from being a parent . Parenting is 24/⁷.
@@nick74195👍👍👍 This mother is a selfish 3rd grade woman who’s keeping her top priority for this guy by leaving her kids. Zero sympathies for such fake mothers who R not fit to be moms . For sure this liar woman after couple of months she’ll run away back again to Jeff.
Karamo is so good at what he does for people, one of the best if not the best. He has a calming demeanor and he knows just what to say. It’s good listening to him and learning from him. Keep doing what you do so well Karamo, I am sure you help many who look at your show, and not even present. Good luck with the ratings you deserve millions on millions! Blessings always!
@@idyna exactly my question, I guess to each his or her own. Maybe that person just does not like being told the truth and Karamo tells it as is, she doesn’t have to look , their loss ha!ha!
Nothing pisses me off more than a "parent" who feels like there kids are grown so there done ... These grown kids are "stuck" in a child's mindset I just want to hug them. So badly 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
@@nataliecartledge8063yesss and the way he talked to the son is completely unacceptable me as an 17 year old even know that , that is disrespectful and disgusting behavior it's very embarrassing on his part and embarrassing on her part too
I’m not begging at all!! Stay with his crazy ass!! And don’t call me when he hit you either! I feel sorry for the kids even though their grown they still need their mom and she’s still with HIM!!
Yeah mama want a man, she could careless about them kids and grandkids😂😂😂😂😂😂 She said “I don’t want to live in the city”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Wtf does that have to do with anything??
I never understood how an absent parent could have time for a relationship. her eyes lit up describing reconnecting with him over drinks but she didnt even have time for her kids yet hopped in a relationship . A real man would’ve gave her support in getting them back.
Right. It's disgusting. Because I feel that's the real problem. He don't like blk ppl. And the mother ain't shyt. Not only because she chose him. But her knowing why he don't really like her kids
Whewww! What a trigger! The mom cries more about her relationship with Jeff than her kids. I feel for them. I understand their feelings and frustrations so well.
@@ScorpioBeautyas someone who has dealt with a parent who didn’t want to be a parent coming to terms with it isn’t easy. It took years to realize my parent didn’t want me and I couldn’t come to terms with it until after they said it straight to my face.
I hope this brother and sister grow the bond that they both deserve and get understanding with one another. I instantly knew once he said they were adopted was the reason she was torn between her brother and his ex girlfriend due to having no mother and saw her as such. I love me some Karamo! Keep up the good work
As someone who lives with OCD it digust me when people with trust issues think a lie detector test and or unlocking a phone will cure paranoia. There is no instant cure paranoia, only time and therapy can cure it. Also to everyone who rushes into a relationship while having trust issues. You decide how much of an influence the past controls your present and dictates your future. You can't use the excuse 'I'm acting this way because of my past' because not everyone is going to put up with that.
How is it that these children that have these abusive drug infested parents that keep rejecting them still want their love?! But these kids that have loving parents that do everything for them and the kids don't appreciate them
Trauma 😢! When you experience trauma at a young age it messes u up emotionally and physically. U start to think the "love" ur parents have shown u is love. When it is not, it's truly neglect and abuse. 😢
It took me nearly all of my life to finally stop chasing my so-called family, especially my mother. Sometimes we need someone to basically hit us in the face with it, to finally get it. It's frustrating, but we get there eventually.
My son is 47 years old I could never go against my son for nothing. This lady suffers from mental illness and low esteem 🙏🏾🙏🏾 for her children they need her .
ok thank you for this! Because I'm a 29 year old, and my mom's only child and she has been so disassociated with me for YEARRSSS. I used to think she was just a "crazy mom'" growing up like all kids....but now, all my friends, coworkers,etc tell me this isn't normal mother behavior.......I needed to hear this from a mother.
39:21 ok I know how this girl feels. My sister is 6 years older then me and she started dating this guy when I was 10 and they had a baby together when she was 19 and I was 13 and he was a big part of the family and he got me into cheerleading and then they broke up and he still picked me up to take me to cheerleading practice and if I needed anything he was there like a brother. So when my sister started dating a new guy I hated him in fact she married him out of spite to her first love which was the other guy so I wouldn’t even be part of the wedding and come to find out he was a jerk to my niece because it wasn’t his baby and my sister left him. I did everything to get them back together and my sister was so mad at me. But hey they got back together and been married every since and had two more babies. So yes it is very hard for us young siblings to just drop someone just because our sibling not dating them anymore. We’re young and we have connections and feeling too. So I feel for this sister because I been there!! But I’m also happy that my sister and brother n law been married for over 28 years.
I believe the mom is still dealing with addiction and that’s what she’s not ready to let go and she knows her kids would make her accountable for her actions
@@kingdjack6not true.They haven’t had the love and care of the one woman,who should have nurtured them through their life.Motherhood doesn’t stop when their children get to 18.
@@PerrySkyePhoenixI keep seeing your replies everywhere and I don’t understand why you hate this show this much? All he’s doing is trying to help and bring light to the situation- it might not work but at least he’s putting in some effort.
She doesn’t know how to be healthy. It’s crystal clear. She went from one addiction to another. Drugs to abuse. She’s never been in a healthy atmosphere she’s afraid of the unknown. The unknown is scary, but it can be so beautiful if you leave the toxicity you knew and walk towards the health you never had. My heart aches especially for the daughter. Her son found love and had children to replace the wound of not having mom. The daughter’s wounds have never been patched. That hill Billy is dangerous and she’s most likely going to go back to him unless she’s genuinely ready to make drastic changes.
She was addicted to drugs then Jeff became her new drug. This is heartbreaking. I hope she heals so that she really be happy and heathy with her kids and grand baby's.
IMO, what the kids need is guidance and emotional support. I'm not sure their mother can give them that. They will end up baring her burdens and raising her. They will have to watch her movements because another guy will come along because she won't be able to handle the stress of being their support. It may be more stressful for the kids in the long run. I don't have the answer, but the life they envision with their mother is not the life it's going to be.
I strongly agree with you. I was quite confused as to what the end game was here. The mom seems to have zero strength, zero direction or sense of purpose and thus can be expected to play the victim and not take responsibility for her life once with her kids. The kids are adults, what are they going to do with a grown, abused, neglectful mom now? She’ll need to be clothed, fed and looked after and all that comes at a cost. I would have left her to live her life independently but perhaps invited her to visit to get to know her grandkids etc.
For me I won't ever reached to the point of choosing a man or my child because I set boundaries #2 choosing my child is not an option but choosing a man is
I dont believe she is gonna leave him for a second. She has no backbone. Idgaf what the circumstances were, you NEVER turn your back on your kids over a man!
Your kids love you and when it’s all said and done they will be there not those men! I would fkn never put men before my babies I carried and brought into this world! They mean everything to me and they need me fk that! I’m sorry not sorry!
I can relate my Mom was in an abusive relationship and after me and my siblings whopped his ass twice(allegedly😏) that monster fled. Today she's in a healthy great relationship and she is very happy.
Love to know outcome. Moms not going nowhere. She's codependent. Her son said she had other men did same things. Some females have to have a man any kind of man. She may don't work dependent on one for money or a roof. Hope she gets it together cause that man suffers with jealousy,bad temper and control.
Jeff is definitely volatile 😂😂😂 he tried but he showed us who he really was cant hide that behavior too long 😂😂😂😅thats why you observe who you're dealing with 😅
I would love for Karamo to do an update on this mother in 6 months to 1 year so we can see if she is following the plan she committed to or if she went back to her boyfriend.
She doesnt know HOW to be a mother thats why it was okay to expose her kids to all kind of things. She def puts men over her kids and exposes the rest of the family to toxic behavior
finally some victim minded people called out on their sht!!!! the mom is as abusive as jeff!! she just shows it differently. jeff is agressive but she purposely choose abusive people to be with every danm time and then drag her whole family down with her , abandoning her kids constantly makes as much damages if not worst than being physically abusive , she is extremely destructive and lack empathy for her kids. She doesnt care about their pain at all. Gosh, im so sick of people getting into abusive relationships knowing danm well what they are getting into and then be like help me help me ! and then you go and help just for them to go back to their sht all over again every danm time and they have the audacity to call themselves a victim like "omg its so difficult to choose between my toxic man and my kids" . I dont feel sorry at ALL about people like her. she cries to her kids about jeff hitting her but she wouldnt even be with jeff in the first place if he wasnt abusive, cry me a river, i dont feel sorry at all, matter of fact they deserve each other. it is one thing to be abused, it is another to CHOOSE abuse! also, what a shitty friend and mom she is, so disloyal, ready to toss everybody into the bin for a man. 0 maturity. I know its hard for her kids, ive lived it myself, but allowing her into their lives without her showing efforts of going to a terapist and doing the work, she will just create more pain and more chaos into their lives, sometimes its better to cut ties even with the people you love if it means them dragging you down. even in the convo with karamo, she had an excuse for everything and just said im sorry to stop being held accountable. Im sick of those people being treated with more empathy than someone showing it differently like jeff, both have traumas, both are extremely immature and unwilling to change, both are selfish, both are highly destructive, both have caused major pain and trauma around them.
This woman chose an abuser over her kids. She said she isolated herself from her own family so that he doesn't think she's cheating. He doesn't actially believe that she's cheating. Jeff is just using the cheating allegations as a way to confrol her.
nicole doesn't want to mess up again so she gives all these excuses. shes very manipulative and it shows because she plays on the emotions of her children
Unpopular opinion here, but I believe part of Nicole likes the attention of having so many pull her in two directions. It’s so dysfunctional to choose a man over your kids-the decision should be clear. She’s neglected and abandoned those children, and seems as though she’ll never choose them. Selfish.
The mom clearly has past trauma which could be the reason for her actions and decisions. However they all need healthy healing so they can learn how to love each other correctly ❤
😢 the snap out of it Mom. That man don't know nothing to you you don't know nothing to him you better get with your babies. Find me I can do it all over again trust me my babies would never have been hurt none of them. 😢
Ain't nobody got time for a man that constantly accuses you of cheating when your not 🙄 That is his own insecurities. Also I would NEVER choose a man over my children
That man definitely abuses her. Look how aggressive he is. Also, that lady obviously does not want to be a mother/grandmother. As much as it hurts, her children probably need to walk away.
Nothing you do Nicole, will change Jeff. Jeff needs to grow up. Who ever brought up your two children here . Did an excellent job. They are good children who needs their mother at this point for love. That's all they just need their mother's love. Jeff is very childish and needs to grow up. Jeff is the one who needs anger management lessons
She has wounderful children.....very respectable.....but the Mom doesn't won't the responsibility of children....and she won't a pity party from others....but u can see she is not going anywhere.....to many excuses that she comes up with....and he son knows she is not ready for change.....all u can do is love her from a distance.... and hope she can see clearly soon....just my opinion......I hope there hearts heals ❤
NEVER let a man isolate you from your family
Anybody for that matter!
She's stuck in an abusive cycle
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EXACTLY
That's her own fault that man is coo coo lol
The mom annoyed me so bad, how is it hard to choose your kids???? My kids come before ANYBODY! & The fact that Jeff got mad because karamo is trying to heal the mom & kid’s relationship? Clearly he’s jealous of her children, just childish it’s really sad. Those kids deserve healing, answers & all the above a loving & nurturing mother.
Its hard because she is being abused. He not jealous he just wants someone to control and abuse. He wants her isolated from her family completely
She gets on my last nerves 🙄 she is going back straight to him after the show
I don’t believe she will move with her kids
@@hanam3589 Right! Karamo should do an update on them.
@@stigeyrose4395that’s exactly what I was thinking…an update. Kids or him.
There is the cycle of abuse But what I sense was the past drug addiction. That man (in my own opinion.), became her new addiction.
THIS SON. idk WHO raised these children but they were respectful and strong and still thought highly of her even when she doesn’t herself. Even when he’s seen the WORST moments of hers. I PRAY for someone to stick by my side as strong as they did. Dang
Those kids look grown to me,ain't it!
@MaryLett-ek3gc Your children still need their mother from cradle to grave no matter how old they are!!!
The only positive I can see out of this... her son is brilliant and handles his emotions very well. The way he speaks is going to be great for his own family. "I'm not leaving my kids to be with you." That's a statement that I feel at my core. Basically, he doesn't want to be like his mother and it actually is helping him be a great dad. The little sister I hope she has gained a lot from her brother.
The children seem like solid, and good people for real. They did not deserve to go through all of that :( sadly, it’s never “just” the woman in an abusive relationship who is suffering from it. The kids were suffering just as much (if not more). I wanna hug em both ❤️
What's disgusting is she hasn't been there for her kids and they're just asking for her love and care. It doesn't matter how old you are that doesn't stop you from being a parent . Parenting is 24/⁷.
💯💯💯
❤💯
Love does stupid things. But she needs to go. He hit this lady and he know he did.
@@nick74195👍👍👍
This mother is a selfish 3rd grade woman who’s keeping her top priority for this guy by leaving her kids. Zero sympathies for such fake mothers who R not fit to be moms . For sure this liar woman after couple of months she’ll run away back again to Jeff.
The mom is slow what Mother leaves her children for a man. That’s not love is stupidity she’s a psycho
The mother is Very weak minded its sad.
I know, stupid . You put a man before your kids. A man could only put his hand on my mother once .
Exactly, that’s how she ended up on drugs.
"Weak minded" has nothing to do with addiction.
@@PerrySkyePhoenixthank you
@@PerrySkyePhoenixwhatever makes you sleep at night
Karamo is so good at what he does for people, one of the best if not the best. He has a calming demeanor and he knows just what to say. It’s good listening to him and learning from him. Keep doing what you do so well Karamo, I am sure you help many who look at your show, and not even present. Good luck with the ratings you deserve millions on millions! Blessings always!
You said it all. ❤
This was my first and last time watching this show. I hated it, hated the host too.
@perryskyephoenix could I ask why?
@@idyna exactly my question, I guess to each his or her own. Maybe that person just does not like being told the truth and Karamo tells it as is, she doesn’t have to look , their loss ha!ha!
@micheler3011 true, although I do see a bit of a bias at times towards the women when they're clearly in the wrong
Nothing pisses me off more than a "parent" who feels like there kids are grown so there done ... These grown kids are "stuck" in a child's mindset I just want to hug them. So badly 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
Exactly especially the daughter
This Mom never started. How can she be done?
Guarantee she is back w/ jeff or another man.
@@home4life505 Exactly and the fact that he went off on the son told me everything I needed to know
AND NOBODY IS SCARED OF YOU JEFF😂😂
That Part. He's a little weak weasel.
Not a soul 😂
Any time a man wants to isolate u from your family and friends its a sign of trouble from this man
Some woman gets on my nerves wanting a man over their kids
The mother is weak period.
@@bremass851very
I like this guy and the way he defends his mother. May God mends this relationship with the children and their mother.
The way Jeff talked to her is so intimidating she lost her self esteem and he probably been so manupilatuve
It is so sad. She looks like she is scared to death of Jeff.
@@nataliecartledge8063yesss and the way he talked to the son is completely unacceptable me as an 17 year old even know that , that is disrespectful and disgusting behavior it's very embarrassing on his part and embarrassing on her part too
The boy man needs to grow up. These kids are wounded. This mother doesn't see she is being abused.
I’m not begging at all!! Stay with his crazy ass!! And don’t call me when he hit you either! I feel sorry for the kids even though their grown they still need their mom and she’s still with HIM!!
Agreed.
There's a lot of codependency issues here. Maybe the kids and the mom just need some space away from each other until they've all "healed."
Exactly I wouldn't show up to the court or funeral either
I’m with you! Don’t be crying wolf to me and then go back again!
Yeah mama want a man, she could careless about them kids and grandkids😂😂😂😂😂😂
She said “I don’t want to live in the city”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Wtf does that have to do with anything??
Okay because she can stay in Colorado and not me in the city.
She’s pathetic!
@southerngemini6401 yessss I thought I was the only one that thought that
I never understood how an absent parent could have time for a relationship. her eyes lit up describing reconnecting with him over drinks but she didnt even have time for her kids yet hopped in a relationship . A real man would’ve gave her support in getting them back.
Yesssss u are absolutely what
I feel for the children. The mother definitely get it together.
They all need to "get it together" Grown a$$ kids included.
the legendary black people side eye when he got up and said "don't threaten me" had me rolling
Right. It's disgusting. Because I feel that's the real problem. He don't like blk ppl. And the mother ain't shyt. Not only because she chose him. But her knowing why he don't really like her kids
😂😂😂😂😂
Whewww! What a trigger! The mom cries more about her relationship with Jeff than her kids. I feel for them. I understand their feelings and frustrations so well.
She doesn’t wanna be a mother .. point blank period 😢
At the end of the day, that is the reality! It may hurt like hell, but the kids need to come to terms with that…
@@ScorpioBeautyas someone who has dealt with a parent who didn’t want to be a parent coming to terms with it isn’t easy. It took years to realize my parent didn’t want me and I couldn’t come to terms with it until after they said it straight to my face.
Girl bye. So the whole show about trying to make her choose her kids over him?! Oh ok! Smh
The entire show!!! She cried more tears and showed more emotion about the relationship w her own kids TRASH
It did take hard turn 😂
Cuz what tf is she doing with a man all the way in a whole different state than taking care of her kids.
And she’s gonna go right back to him that’s why her kids don’t seem convinced
I believe the mother is dependent on Jeff because they did drugs together. She has a co- dependency relationship with him.
The problem is the mom's boyfriend put alot of fear in her. She's scared to leave. Mom is being Mental abused.
You go Koramo, not unlocking any phone for an abuser and cheater and low down egoistical man.
I hope this brother and sister grow the bond that they both deserve and get understanding with one another. I instantly knew once he said they were adopted was the reason she was torn between her brother and his ex girlfriend due to having no mother and saw her as such. I love me some Karamo! Keep up the good work
As someone who lives with OCD it digust me when people with trust issues think a lie detector test and or unlocking a phone will cure paranoia. There is no instant cure paranoia, only time and therapy can cure it.
Also to everyone who rushes into a relationship while having trust issues. You decide how much of an influence the past controls your present and dictates your future.
You can't use the excuse 'I'm acting this way because of my past' because not everyone is going to put up with that.
I don't mean this in a rude way but what does you having OCD have to due with anything you said?
@@bokopiocd can cause compulsive thoughts, if ur paranoid about something a person with ocd would be more likely to ruminate on it
@@bokopithey are both compulsive disorders!!!
How is it that these children that have these abusive drug infested parents that keep rejecting them still want their love?! But these kids that have loving parents that do everything for them and the kids don't appreciate them
Amen baby
Facts
Trauma 😢! When you experience trauma at a young age it messes u up emotionally and physically. U start to think the "love" ur parents have shown u is love. When it is not, it's truly neglect and abuse. 😢
It took me nearly all of my life to finally stop chasing my so-called family, especially my mother.
Sometimes we need someone to basically hit us in the face with it, to finally get it.
It's frustrating, but we get there eventually.
That's because both of the situations that you're describing are unbalanced and unhealthy.
My heart broke for her daughter 💔
So she’s gonna just sit there and let her kids argue with that man. Really!!
She’s pathetic!
My son is 47 years old I could never go against my son for nothing. This lady suffers from mental illness and low esteem 🙏🏾🙏🏾 for her children they need her .
There we go again “ mental illness “ STOP IT !! You have no idea
ok thank you for this! Because I'm a 29 year old, and my mom's only child and she has been so disassociated with me for YEARRSSS. I used to think she was just a "crazy mom'" growing up like all kids....but now, all my friends, coworkers,etc tell me this isn't normal mother behavior.......I needed to hear this from a mother.
Those kids are well raised 👏
I wonder by who , cause certainly wasn’t her
Right! Somebody did a good job!
39:21 ok I know how this girl feels. My sister is 6 years older then me and she started dating this guy when I was 10 and they had a baby together when she was 19 and I was 13 and he was a big part of the family and he got me into cheerleading and then they broke up and he still picked me up to take me to cheerleading practice and if I needed anything he was there like a brother. So when my sister started dating a new guy I hated him in fact she married him out of spite to her first love which was the other guy so I wouldn’t even be part of the wedding and come to find out he was a jerk to my niece because it wasn’t his baby and my sister left him. I did everything to get them back together and my sister was so mad at me. But hey they got back together and been married every since and had two more babies. So yes it is very hard for us young siblings to just drop someone just because our sibling not dating them anymore. We’re young and we have connections and feeling too. So I feel for this sister because I been there!! But I’m also happy that my sister and brother n law been married for over 28 years.
Beautiful blessed 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Wait they dated had a baby, split she married, divorced and remarried the previous boyfriend? Why did they split up before
My son started dating his now wife in high school, my youngest was 2, she’s now 18 so I totally get it. That’s her sister and all she ever knew.
I believe the mom is still dealing with addiction and that’s what she’s not ready to let go and she knows her kids would make her accountable for her actions
This!!
children come first doesnt matter how old they are
No once they are adults they have to be able to stand on their own.
No. Not to the point where they’re old enough to have their own relationships yet they want to talk about mine
@@kingdjack6I know your kids don’t talk to you AT ALL 😂
@@kingdjack6not true.They haven’t had the love and care of the one woman,who should have nurtured them through their life.Motherhood doesn’t stop when their children get to 18.
Oh yes it does! They aren't "children"
Y’all know he must beat her. Can hear it in her voice. Isolation, constant accusations of cheating, classic signs of DV
Wow what an amazing episode. Karamo I don't say this every video but your actions and advice in this episode are just as great as your outfits.
No... this episode is BS. A total waste of time. Why not get this family some "real help" ?? They need it.
@@PerrySkyePhoenixI keep seeing your replies everywhere and I don’t understand why you hate this show this much? All he’s doing is trying to help and bring light to the situation- it might not work but at least he’s putting in some effort.
LMAO ain't no way in hell I'm choosing a man over my kids
She doesn’t know how to be healthy. It’s crystal clear. She went from one addiction to another. Drugs to abuse. She’s never been in a healthy atmosphere she’s afraid of the unknown. The unknown is scary, but it can be so beautiful if you leave the toxicity you knew and walk towards the health you never had. My heart aches especially for the daughter. Her son found love and had children to replace the wound of not having mom. The daughter’s wounds have never been patched. That hill Billy is dangerous and she’s most likely going to go back to him unless she’s genuinely ready to make drastic changes.
People always criticize the children who they are these kids regardless how old they are they traumatized
Yes,they still need her,but it looks like they aren’t going to get her.
@eh-i1841 No they're not, so they need therapy to learn how to reparent themselves. Aint life grand?! 😃
She was addicted to drugs then Jeff became her new drug. This is heartbreaking. I hope she heals so that she really be happy and heathy with her kids and grand baby's.
IMO, what the kids need is guidance and emotional support. I'm not sure their mother can give them that. They will end up baring her burdens and raising her. They will have to watch her movements because another guy will come along because she won't be able to handle the stress of being their support. It may be more stressful for the kids in the long run. I don't have the answer, but the life they envision with their mother is not the life it's going to be.
I strongly agree with you. I was quite confused as to what the end game was here. The mom seems to have zero strength, zero direction or sense of purpose and thus can be expected to play the victim and not take responsibility for her life once with her kids. The kids are adults, what are they going to do with a grown, abused, neglectful mom now? She’ll need to be clothed, fed and looked after and all that comes at a cost. I would have left her to live her life independently but perhaps invited her to visit to get to know her grandkids etc.
I’m blessed I didn’t have a mother like this .. thank u God🙏🏾 very blessed
Karamo was really good with the second brother and sister.
Mom is an anabler and a co- dependant an the man is an outspoken Narcissist.
Yo the women sitting next to him looking yoooo whatttt?? That’s the dude whoaaaa
For me I won't ever reached to the point of choosing a man or my child because I set boundaries #2 choosing my child is not an option but choosing a man is
She's fighting that hug... she looked at them several times... she just didn't know how to do it
What a son ❤
I dont believe she is gonna leave him for a second. She has no backbone. Idgaf what the circumstances were, you NEVER turn your back on your kids over a man!
That's what you get for abandoning your children....you pick up a loser.
Your kids love you and when it’s all said and done they will be there not those men! I would fkn never put men before my babies I carried and brought into this world! They mean everything to me and they need me fk that! I’m sorry not sorry!
Don't count on your kids "being there" for you. Don't count on anyone!
First story bet she don't leave that guy
I can relate my Mom was in an abusive relationship and after me and my siblings whopped his ass twice(allegedly😏) that monster fled. Today she's in a healthy great relationship and she is very happy.
Not allegedly sir 😅
It certainly is allegedly....
We were both hanging out with friends having dinner 😅😊😂
I'll serve as alibi 😅😊😅
Love to know outcome. Moms not going nowhere. She's codependent. Her son said she had other men did same things. Some females have to have a man any kind of man. She may don't work dependent on one for money or a roof. Hope she gets it together cause that man suffers with jealousy,bad temper and control.
He's overly aggressive, he did dv her.
Jeff is definitely volatile 😂😂😂 he tried but he showed us who he really was cant hide that behavior too long 😂😂😂😅thats why you observe who you're dealing with 😅
I would love for Karamo to do an update on this mother in 6 months to 1 year so we can see if she is following the plan she committed to or if she went back to her boyfriend.
Bro said "I'm right here." LOL Run up and get done up, old man
I'm so happy that there was no phone unlocked in the first story. It was unnecessary and that guy didn't deserve to know the results.
She never wanted those kids😒😞 ...
Life Lesson:
People aren't scared have no reason to say they aren't scared.
She doesnt know HOW to be a mother thats why it was okay to expose her kids to all kind of things. She def puts men over her kids and exposes the rest of the family to toxic behavior
finally some victim minded people called out on their sht!!!! the mom is as abusive as jeff!! she just shows it differently. jeff is agressive but she purposely choose abusive people to be with every danm time and then drag her whole family down with her , abandoning her kids constantly makes as much damages if not worst than being physically abusive , she is extremely destructive and lack empathy for her kids. She doesnt care about their pain at all. Gosh, im so sick of people getting into abusive relationships knowing danm well what they are getting into and then be like help me help me ! and then you go and help just for them to go back to their sht all over again every danm time and they have the audacity to call themselves a victim like "omg its so difficult to choose between my toxic man and my kids" . I dont feel sorry at ALL about people like her. she cries to her kids about jeff hitting her but she wouldnt even be with jeff in the first place if he wasnt abusive, cry me a river, i dont feel sorry at all, matter of fact they deserve each other. it is one thing to be abused, it is another to CHOOSE abuse!
also, what a shitty friend and mom she is, so disloyal, ready to toss everybody into the bin for a man. 0 maturity. I know its hard for her kids, ive lived it myself, but allowing her into their lives without her showing efforts of going to a terapist and doing the work, she will just create more pain and more chaos into their lives, sometimes its better to cut ties even with the people you love if it means them dragging you down. even in the convo with karamo, she had an excuse for everything and just said im sorry to stop being held accountable. Im sick of those people being treated with more empathy than someone showing it differently like jeff, both have traumas, both are extremely immature and unwilling to change, both are selfish, both are highly destructive, both have caused major pain and trauma around them.
Can we get an update, I highly doubt the mom left.
Me too..sadly
the fact the mom letting her kids arguing is sad man
Karamo you are an absolute blessing thank you for helping that mom, and whoever raised those kids did absolutely amazing 🙏🖤
That anger he had, yes he did hit her?
This woman chose an abuser over her kids. She said she isolated herself from her own family so that he doesn't think she's cheating. He doesn't actially believe that she's cheating. Jeff is just using the cheating allegations as a way to confrol her.
The daughter gorgeous 😊
Karamo said we are not doing that on this show
48!Wow,he looks 58.
nicole doesn't want to mess up again so she gives all these excuses. shes very manipulative and it shows because she plays on the emotions of her children
The children is a blessing!! And they are more mature than their mother!!
The devil ain't nothing
Unpopular opinion here, but I believe part of Nicole likes the attention of having so many pull her in two directions. It’s so dysfunctional to choose a man over your kids-the decision should be clear. She’s neglected and abandoned those children, and seems as though she’ll never choose them. Selfish.
The mom clearly has past trauma which could be the reason for her actions and decisions. However they all need healthy healing so they can learn how to love each other correctly ❤
Yes!
She needs therapy immediately ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
😢 the snap out of it Mom. That man don't know nothing to you you don't know nothing to him you better get with your babies. Find me I can do it all over again trust me my babies would never have been hurt none of them. 😢
ALWAYS KIDS FIRST. NEVER ALLOW A MAN DEMAND YOU CHOOSE HIM OR YOUR KIDS. NEVER.
The brother was wrong for putting his little sister in that position.
If she says you hit her you hit her
Ain't nobody got time for a man that constantly accuses you of cheating when your not 🙄 That is his own insecurities. Also I would NEVER choose a man over my children
Bless her daughter she is beautiful.❤❤❤❤❤❤
Those must've been FORTY EIGHT rough years. The man looks like he's in his 70's.
A mother that doesn’t care for her children can NOT be trusted!!!
Shes a very selfish being
That so call mom is awful.
That man definitely abuses her. Look how aggressive he is. Also, that lady obviously does not want to be a mother/grandmother. As much as it hurts, her children probably need to walk away.
Awesome episode of Karamo
Mom: Choose yourself.
only someone struggling with addiction could fall for someone like jeff
If he's acting like this on TV I can't imagine what goes on behind close door
people always using past trauma against people in the present .
Nothing you do Nicole, will change Jeff. Jeff needs to grow up. Who ever brought up your two children here . Did an excellent job. They are good children who needs their mother at this point for love. That's all they just need their mother's love. Jeff is very childish and needs to grow up. Jeff is the one who needs anger management lessons
She has wounderful children.....very respectable.....but the Mom doesn't won't the responsibility of children....and she won't a pity party from others....but u can see she is not going anywhere.....to many excuses that she comes up with....and he son knows she is not ready for change.....all u can do is love her from a distance.... and hope she can see clearly soon....just my opinion......I hope there hearts heals ❤
The fact that she’s making so many excuses when he’s asking if she has a way to get her things tells me EVERYTHING i need to know.
Everyone talking about they can't leave. Hell just visit one another!
48?! So Jeff is telling us he's 48?! 😢
I was saying? 60 maybe, but not 48.
48 in dog years