Let’s stop suggesting he’s battling his sexuality because he was raped and seen certain things. As a lot of you have said he is still dealing with his past trauma and has a lot to unpack. Pushing the narrative of the sexuality confusion should not be the first thing people think of!
The first story broke my heart to hear, he seems really nice but just went through something traumatic and trying to navigate life after, while raising a child he technically never consented to having.
Idk but I'm getting "struggling with my sexuality" from him. Idk. And the date rape situation is absolutely horrible. It seems like he has a lot to unpack, bless his heart. I hope he gets/got counseling he so desperately needs.
Right! I was just about to say the same thing! I do understand the Trauma of being raped, but he is a man that’s living with a woman and he’s the one that doesn’t want sex, yes the struggle is real there. When he looks at her it’s like he saying! don’t you see I’m gay, why are you gonna make me say it. Instead of just being honest
@@lisaking6400y’all are ridiculous, sexual trauma effects men and women in similar ways, women will not want to engage in sexual acts for YEARS after a rape situation and it can be the same for men, this is why men don’t speak out because you guys will ALWAYS somehow judge them and how they cope, everyone calling him soft and gay in the comments, that’s exactly why men stay silent smdh
@@clownko9773 Thank you!!! These people sound unhinged. Acknowledging he was a victim of sexual assault but expecting him not to be affected by it 🤦🏾♀️
And every man isn’t overly masculine but can still be heterosexual ; just like some women are manly but still prefer men ..doesn’t make him gay because he’s soft spoken
He’s not ready and needs some healing and that’s ok too. His trauma got him tripping. From the things he’s saying it sound like if she just smiles he considers it flirting. For us women, it don’t take much for a guy to think you’re flirting w/ them. If you blink twice they think you tryna F. I’m very outgoing by nature and 95% of the time am not flirting but I can admit that me personally I realized I can be flirtatious by nature. I never get mad at stuff like that because I understand it plus I’m confident and I know most times it isn’t intentional. It’s a little thing called trust. I could see if she cheated. That girl lovesss him. She seems to really be committed to him, how can he not see that. Let people be themselves, and if their personality ain’t for you, keep it moving. Simple. No hard feelings. Nevertheless, I hope they make it. ❤ Anybody else feel like they already seen this first episode?
This is why it's better to heal than to be in a relationship and have your significant other suffer from the trauma you've experienced. I'm trying to heal first before i get into a relationship it's been 3 years and I'm still not ready.
Not everyone who looks and talks like him is gay 🤦 ffs people. Also, he was raped.. he's struggling with that trauma. Its his first serious relationship and he's scared of being hurt. I understand not wanting to lay down with someone after what he went through. Everyone takes trauma differently. So not having sex makes him gay? He needs therapy and to be open with the therapist. Then with her, if that's who he is going to be with. He seems like a good man and treats her Great according to her. All he needs is actual help and to move forward, not stay in place as he is.
Yes he needs serious counseling and he’s not healed from his past trauma he needs to just focus on healing and his daughter. She seems like a good woman he’s going to ruin because of his insecurities
I feel as if He wants her for her Masculine Energy. Seemingly the typical male and female roles are reversed. Bless them… Yall know I’m really here for the BROWS and suits yaasssss Karamo for President
The first guy.. I don’t think he actually likes women and he’s battling with that hardcore. He has a kid that he never asked for and he was violated by a woman. If he is gay, he might feel like he needs a woman to help him care for his child because he doesn’t know how to, and he might think another man wouldn’t know how to either or wouldn’t want to. Whatever the case, they seem to be more like friends than partners and he isn’t in love with her. She so genuinely loves him and expresses that to him. When he asked “can you tell me, how do I treat you?” I think he was trying to tell her to put the pieces together herself by the way he treats her but she came back with the positives unexpectedly. Just my own perceptions and intuition.
They met on a Christian dating site. Of course, it's going to take him forever to come out! Like you said, he's battling with it. It's not easy going against everything you were taught from infancy. If his family is very conservative, he might lose them all if he lived his true life. He's finding excuses to not be intimate with her because his love for her is platonic.
This comment is ignorant asf. First of all, even if he is queer, bisexual men do exist. He is able to love his girl just as much as a straight dude. Second of all, not all men are extremely masculine. There are men who are maybe in touch with their feminine side. This is such a boomer way of thinking about sexuality and masculinity.
He was literally raped people cope differently. Men and women react similarly to rape. Women don't have sex years after a rape. It's not impossible for a man to react the same way
This man was RAPED and he had to spent 20,000 dollars just to get his daughter when it should’ve been free bc she should be behind bars. U instead call him gay bc he’s trying to cope with his trauma THIS is why black men are so broken now.
They both seem as if they want the best for each other, but there is also a lot of trauma. I pray 🙏🏽 he gets the healing he needs. I also pray she gets the love ❤️ she needs! I will be praying for both of them .❤❤❤
It's not even about him talking to another girl, it's the fact that he wasn't honest when he did imo. If they set up a rule/boundary at the start of this that they should be having these flirtatious convos with other women *together* and he's doing it behind her back or vice-versa there's a problem. Like you said at the end transparency is key if you're going to be open to inviting a third person into your relationship.
Honestly I’m like him. I’m very incredibly quiet in public and if someone was yelling at me in front of a crowd, I’d feel like a mouse. I also don’t express every single thing going on in my life. But when I do, I get very hotheaded. But only with family and those I’m comfortable showing that side of me to
Sometimes women are on 10 because they are feeling as though they are not being heard. Listen to what he is ALSO putting her through. He is not communicating and he is wanting her to unrealistically read his mind when she didn’t know half of the trauma that is fueling his perspective. Also we have to stop labeling people aggressive when they are passionate about their experience. People express things differently, you all respect his quiet demeanor but hers has to be wrong because it’s not quiet. I hate the perpetual angry black woman stereotype that is place on us when we are finally fed up with not being heard. When we stop communicating and become quiet… most of the time WE ARE DONE… the passion comes from trying to throw the last bit of effort to try to save something. When it’s gone… it is gone. IJS
Karamo show is a God send. I pray this couple get the much needed help in which they both deserve. Love is a very powerful thang & I truly believe it will knock down the walls that divide. She is a very strong person & she is putting in the work, He has more work to do & he has to learn to trust again.
The moment a cheater says 'That was in the past' I lose all respect for them. It's not the cheaters role to decide what's in the past, it's the person whose been cheated on. People need to understand when it coms to moving on time doesn't decide the past, being able to not fixate is what makes it the past. Some cheaters make it seem like there partner should just forget about it after a while.
@@auzy2u845 no just his lack of affection towards her, the vibe he’s giving off like they have a friendship, one year with no sex living together, his voice is only a small part.
I'm loving this one & the way roles were reversed. Men were in the position of WOMEN; as far as being emotionally vulnerable. I can't put the way I'm feeling into words. You have done an awesome job with the show. I'M LOVING IT. 💎💎💎💎💎💎
The first couple im so sorry he was taken advantage of, and all that happened 😢 .. The second couple, if you stay, once he cheated the first time, then you allowed yourself to accept anything . It's better to wait for GOD to send you who you're evenly yoked with and not who you choose.
He sounds like your best friend. I had a best friend like that. He did pamper me, but i felt like i was his beard. A woman can tell when someone has natural affection for her, and when someone doesn't, other people can judge, but her discernment tells her the truth.
As someone who is so gay they can't even think straight and has battled their sexuality their entire early life. From my experience I am getting absolutely no confusion in his sexuality his confused about being date raped and about trusting his partner nothing more
She is absolutely beautiful, inside and out. So intelligent and poised. I pray 🙏🏼 they were able to iron out all the problems, they make a beautiful couple.
Isaiah, it's called vulnerability. That's why you date, you JUDGE people's actions, & than you decide if they are a good fit 👍🏾... 4YOU! Not anybody else ... & vise versa
He’s definitely struggling with his sexuality she needs to accept they’re just besties. I love how Karamo isn’t pulling him out of the closet cause I’m sure he knows it too.
1st case: He is so scared of women and hurt because of that date rape. Hope he heals in Jesus name. 2nd: I don't know why woman fin reasons to stay after catching someone cheating. Love is not submitting to those things.
I dont think the 2nd woman was controlling. Just because she doesnt mind an open relationship, doesnt mean that he can be sneak talking to other women and not be honest about it. And open relationship is called just that, being 'open' about what you're doing, otherwise it'll still be considered sneaky/or cheating to some
She really doesnt want the open relationship he does and she thinks she has to control it to keep imhim in check but participating in trysts is just opening pandoras box she knows her day is coming
He said she was controlling but if it’s outside of the scope of their agreement it’s cheating and NOT controlling and oddly enough Karamo has made this argument for others in the past. Cheating is anything outside of the scope of the agreement made. If if openness is apart of the relationship BUT not going out and doing your own thing is a stipulation then it’s cheating
I agree i felt similarly. I think the cameras is a bit much (like if your doing all that the trust is shattered) but she isnt necessarily the one at fault here. Sounds like hes sort of shady. Ive also noticed that it seems karamo doesnt really understand how to properly comment on polyamorous/open relationships bc sometimes he misreads things. Communication and mutaual agreement seems to be key.
This is about the second couple. As a polyam person, you can absolutely cheat in any form of an open relationship. I don't think Karamo is well verse enough in polyamory to speak on this, and calling her controlling was unfair without diving deeper. I think more communication needed to be had. but I generally love what he did for the first couple and many others.
I'm not even poly and I caught that. It seemed like he didn't understand that you can have an open relationship with the stipulation that both parties are involved with the invited party. I didn't think this was handled well and the guy just got a scape goat....
The Second Lady is ANNOYING! She not gonna leave him…they probably living together unhappily as we speak 😂 She is a joke and thought she was going to embarrass him…and she is the one 😂
He is manipulative. He plays with her emotions. He knows she loves him so he gives her the silent treatment when she doesnt toe his line. Girl run. I have met guys who are soft spoken but very temperamental.
This is clearly a trauma response. It’s fair for her to leave but he isn’t trying to manipulate her. They both need to work on themselves before they can be together
The first episode, the man gives her silent treatment and manipulates her that way. Very controlling. Not have sex for one year and in a relationship and living together, wow!!
He needs to get therapy and take time to himself for healing. His traumas are going to be a burden to every person he tries to be in a relationship with until he learns to cope and heal. She needs to give him space for her own sanity.
He's a sheltered gamer. He didn't seem gay more stuck in his childhood and a lil green. He's going to have to grow up to keep that woman though. And everyone saying she hot headed naw she just frustrated. she aint been "adjusted" in a year and not even getting intimacy.
In the first case, he definitely does not love her. She is convenient: takes care of the baby and is the image of a traditional stayhome wifey with a bonus: works feom home. When they hugged... after such a klong time, he was not into it, he was looking somewhere else, like it was forced. When asked why did he stay with her he said "because I CARE about her", he didn't say "I love her". The way he told about his episode was he heard about the party and went to the party (apparently aline), he met thos random girl who drugged him and did her business with him. He ends up in hospital, in shock and hurt. No recollection of what had happened. I believe he does have serious troubles. The way he sways back and forth, always looking upwards. I know tv sets have these scaffolding where electricians and sound technicians are above moving around, but normal people don't stare continuously there. She's not realizing this yet, but he's not who he seems. By the way, the clothes are given by the wardrobe people at the studio, it's not their own clothes. That's wuite telling in my opinion.
I hope she moved on. He's not being honest. He is holding her back, trying to force her into a caretaker relationship. He should figure out his issues instead of forcing her into a bogus relationship.
I was legit thinking the same thing, I’m actually surprised more people aren’t taken aback. She looks every bit of 50 something, and the way she keeps saying she’s 36 is sending me 😭🤣
I swear this guy got a twin who was on a Bounty Hunter D episode about some girl finding her baby daddy and this guy was one of 3 men, but he wasn’t shy or soft in that video like in this they look exactly alike it’s crazy
I believe that he may be bisexual. He loves her as a BFF not a spouse. He does have a unique story and I think he should've pressed charges on her ( his baby mom). He probably went to therapy due to his sexuality and having an unplanned or something he may not have seen in his future and that threw his life for a loop. She there for comfort, to keep his mind on something else. He don't want his daughter going places with her! Hopefully he loves her enough to tell her the truth and let her find the love that she's get that love from someone else. She may know but having a in house BFF thats romantic and attentive in the opposite sex is all a woman needs sometimes. Good luck to them! 🤞🏾
I’m not downplaying his trauma at all, but what straight man would not have sex with their live in girlfriend for a year? He does not want a woman and he just doesn’t want to come to terms with it. Then she is his first serious relationship at 30+ years old.
But you are downplaying his trauma….being sexually assaulted can cause someone regardless of sex to force themselves into a shell and struggle with intimacy. Homophobia and patriarchy are so engrained in our society that this type of thinking is the result of a man being vulnerable enough to share his trauma. Not everyone is fucking Michael B Jordan. Some men are softer than others.
I really hope this young lady moves on. He’s confused sexually…. He’s been severely traumatized. Be his roommate his homie but stop the romantic relationship or lack there of. He’s a good dude just not for her. Therapy is a must. Praying for these two.
I commend him gor getting his daughter but as far as a relationship HES DEFINITELY NOT READY AND THATS HARD BECAUSE SHES SUFFERING BECAUSE SHE LOVES BIM N HE WONT LET HER IN BUT HES COMFORTABLE TO LET HER INTO WATCH HIS DAUGHTER AND BE A MOTHER TO HIS DAUGHTER COME ON THIS SI SOMETHING
He’s not ready for a relationship. I think this is one the best girls out there. He has to come up to here standard she’s a good girl. Maybe she can do better if he can’t change.
He is clearly very damaged. N his past messed him and communicating up. I feel for him. She definitely wasn’t understanding him and he does have a lot of working on himself to do. But she wasn’t understanding bc again his communication he didn’t learn much on how to do it or express himself correct.
Karamo was wrong on the second one in my opinion. People bring others into their relationships all the time and there are rules that people have to follow when they’re in relationships like that. If you go off and do your own thing on the side and break the rules. That’s the same as somebody breaking the rules in a monogamous relationship. Because if she was to say oh, well, I would’ve slept with this guy because I liked him, oh boy would be upset
He seems so sweet and genuine, he is giving Michael Jackson vibes. ❤
At first I was like huh Michael Jackson but I see it and hear it now in his voice and demeanor 😂
@@MSKTLIZyou are though
Why are you bringing up Michael Jackson. You don’t even know MJ. You are repeating whyt3 supremacists talking point.
Man my heart hurts for him. He’s been through so much trauma. Damn
Let’s stop suggesting he’s battling his sexuality because he was raped and seen certain things. As a lot of you have said he is still dealing with his past trauma and has a lot to unpack. Pushing the narrative of the sexuality confusion should not be the first thing people think of!
One word therapy🥀
I think it's more of the vibe. Not even considering the rape, he does give feminine vibes and she definitely gives masculine.
@Zaqwsx1 I agree!! That man is struggling with his sexuality...period..he needs counseling. He is confused about ALOT. I pray for him seriously. ❤
He needs to heal. Counseling is needed. 💜I hope he receives the help he needs.
The first story broke my heart to hear, he seems really nice but just went through something traumatic and trying to navigate life after, while raising a child he technically never consented to having.
I think they really love each other, he just has to figure out a way to heal and move forward.
Idk but I'm getting "struggling with my sexuality" from him. Idk. And the date rape situation is absolutely horrible. It seems like he has a lot to unpack, bless his heart. I hope he gets/got counseling he so desperately needs.
OK IM NOT TRIPPING I SAID THAT TO MYSELF
Right! I was just about to say the same thing! I do understand the Trauma of being raped, but he is a man that’s living with a woman and he’s the one that doesn’t want sex, yes the struggle is real there. When he looks at her it’s like he saying! don’t you see I’m gay, why are you gonna make me say it. Instead of just being honest
@@lisaking6400y’all are ridiculous, sexual trauma effects men and women in similar ways, women will not want to engage in sexual acts for YEARS after a rape situation and it can be the same for men, this is why men don’t speak out because you guys will ALWAYS somehow judge them and how they cope, everyone calling him soft and gay in the comments, that’s exactly why men stay silent smdh
@@clownko9773 Thank you!!! These people sound unhinged. Acknowledging he was a victim of sexual assault but expecting him not to be affected by it 🤦🏾♀️
And every man isn’t overly masculine but can still be heterosexual ; just like some women are manly but still prefer men ..doesn’t make him gay because he’s soft spoken
Anytime I need a good cry, I watch karamo 😂😂
He’s not ready and needs some healing and that’s ok too. His trauma got him tripping. From the things he’s saying it sound like if she just smiles he considers it flirting. For us women, it don’t take much for a guy to think you’re flirting w/ them. If you blink twice they think you tryna F. I’m very outgoing by nature and 95% of the time am not flirting but I can admit that me personally I realized I can be flirtatious by nature. I never get mad at stuff like that because I understand it plus I’m confident and I know most times it isn’t intentional. It’s a little thing called trust. I could see if she cheated. That girl lovesss him. She seems to really be committed to him, how can he not see that. Let people be themselves, and if their personality ain’t for you, keep it moving. Simple. No hard feelings. Nevertheless, I hope they make it. ❤
Anybody else feel like they already seen this first episode?
Yes I did see it.
FACTS
She is Loud, ghetto and over bearing!!
This is why it's better to heal than to be in a relationship and have your significant other suffer from the trauma you've experienced. I'm trying to heal first before i get into a relationship it's been 3 years and I'm still not ready.
She looks like his mother 😂 the way he answers her is like a little kid getting yelled at by their mother
Marilyn gives me Big Boss Energy, such a beautiful Queen, I pray she heals and is Happy too❤️🙏 Poor Isiah, God bless his heart 💞
Not everyone who looks and talks like him is gay 🤦 ffs people.
Also, he was raped.. he's struggling with that trauma. Its his first serious relationship and he's scared of being hurt. I understand not wanting to lay down with someone after what he went through. Everyone takes trauma differently. So not having sex makes him gay?
He needs therapy and to be open with the therapist. Then with her, if that's who he is going to be with. He seems like a good man and treats her Great according to her. All he needs is actual help and to move forward, not stay in place as he is.
Agreed 😊
She seems to be the hot-headed and loud. He seems laid back & doesn't like confrontation. 😕 he seems very wounded & could benefit from counseling.
Exactly she came out blazing! Poor tink tink is frightened!
He got excited a couple times and has childlike tendencies go back watch again.
Yes he needs serious counseling and he’s not healed from his past trauma he needs to just focus on healing and his daughter. She seems like a good woman he’s going to ruin because of his insecurities
I feel as if He wants her for her Masculine Energy. Seemingly the typical male and female roles are reversed. Bless them… Yall know I’m really here for the BROWS and suits yaasssss Karamo for President
👏👏👏👏
Hahaha 😂😂😂
That first couple is pure love if they can make it through
She’s got a good man. ❤ He needs to start trusting her.
He's 🙄 scared of being hurt
Don’t “push and push” someone to date you, they gunna do shady shit
The first guy.. I don’t think he actually likes women and he’s battling with that hardcore. He has a kid that he never asked for and he was violated by a woman. If he is gay, he might feel like he needs a woman to help him care for his child because he doesn’t know how to, and he might think another man wouldn’t know how to either or wouldn’t want to. Whatever the case, they seem to be more like friends than partners and he isn’t in love with her. She so genuinely loves him and expresses that to him. When he asked “can you tell me, how do I treat you?” I think he was trying to tell her to put the pieces together herself by the way he treats her but she came back with the positives unexpectedly. Just my own perceptions and intuition.
They met on a Christian dating site. Of course, it's going to take him forever to come out! Like you said, he's battling with it. It's not easy going against everything you were taught from infancy. If his family is very conservative, he might lose them all if he lived his true life. He's finding excuses to not be intimate with her because his love for her is platonic.
This comment is ignorant asf. First of all, even if he is queer, bisexual men do exist. He is able to love his girl just as much as a straight dude. Second of all, not all men are extremely masculine. There are men who are maybe in touch with their feminine side. This is such a boomer way of thinking about sexuality and masculinity.
@@Arcadia61 yeah right....i know real Christian men and my ñiĝĝa aint giving off ĝaÿ vibes...this ñiĝĝâ CLEARLY gâÿ.
He was literally raped people cope differently. Men and women react similarly to rape. Women don't have sex years after a rape. It's not impossible for a man to react the same way
This man was RAPED and he had to spent 20,000 dollars just to get his daughter when it should’ve been free bc she should be behind bars. U instead call him gay bc he’s trying to cope with his trauma THIS is why black men are so broken now.
They both seem as if they want the best for each other, but there is also a lot of trauma. I pray 🙏🏽 he gets the healing he needs. I also pray she gets the love ❤️ she needs! I will be praying for both of them .❤❤❤
Dang Kelly Rowland doppelganger chill the hell out!
With those bags under her eyes?
It's not even about him talking to another girl, it's the fact that he wasn't honest when he did imo.
If they set up a rule/boundary at the start of this that they should be having these flirtatious convos with other women *together* and he's doing it behind her back or vice-versa there's a problem.
Like you said at the end transparency is key if you're going to be open to inviting a third person into your relationship.
She’s way too aggressive for me 🤦🏾♀️ calling him hot headed but she can’t simply express herself without the yelling and head bopping.
Honestly I’m like him. I’m very incredibly quiet in public and if someone was yelling at me in front of a crowd, I’d feel like a mouse. I also don’t express every single thing going on in my life. But when I do, I get very hotheaded. But only with family and those I’m comfortable showing that side of me to
Yes it’s always on 10 unnecessarily and he internalizes
Sometimes women are on 10 because they are feeling as though they are not being heard. Listen to what he is ALSO putting her through. He is not communicating and he is wanting her to unrealistically read his mind when she didn’t know half of the trauma that is fueling his perspective. Also we have to stop labeling people aggressive when they are passionate about their experience. People express things differently, you all respect his quiet demeanor but hers has to be wrong because it’s not quiet. I hate the perpetual angry black woman stereotype that is place on us when we are finally fed up with not being heard. When we stop communicating and become quiet… most of the time WE ARE DONE… the passion comes from trying to throw the last bit of effort to try to save something. When it’s gone… it is gone. IJS
She been around dude for a year with no "release". yea she frustrated.
KARAMO IMA SAY IT AGAIN YOUR SKILLZ ARE IMPECCABLE YOUR BOSS MOVES ARE AT 1000 WITH ME UR 🔥 I CAN UNDERSTAND YOU BROTHER YOUR A GREAT MAN
Karamo show is a God send. I pray this couple get the much needed help in which they both deserve. Love is a very powerful thang & I truly believe it will knock down the walls that divide. She is a very strong person & she is putting in the work, He has more work to do & he has to learn to trust again.
The moment a cheater says 'That was in the past' I lose all respect for them.
It's not the cheaters role to decide what's in the past, it's the person whose been cheated on.
People need to understand when it coms to moving on time doesn't decide the past, being able to not fixate is what makes it the past.
Some cheaters make it seem like there partner should just forget about it after a while.
Past is the past, u choose to hold on, they choose to let go! Pray for it and move on
I pray for the first Brother and Sister girl. I pray for them.
When they hugged he seemed really strange like he was trying to get away
came for this comment something is up
Yup. I watched that hug very closely and I immediately said, "hmmmm, I'm sure about these two being in a relationship fr fr"
😂😂😂 Facts!
yall keep forgetting what this man has been through. A woman took advantage of this man and took his manhood.
He's not interested in woman
I got that vibe from him too. Seems like they have a friendship only.
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Just because of his voice? 🤪
@@auzy2u845 no just his lack of affection towards her, the vibe he’s giving off like they have a friendship, one year with no sex living together, his voice is only a small part.
That hug looked super awkward...
Maybe he’s battling his sexuality
I don’t see it I think it’s more of battling his trauma in general
I believe they both need to heal I think they might be best as friends
I'm loving this one & the way roles were reversed. Men were in the position of WOMEN; as far as being emotionally vulnerable. I can't put the way I'm feeling into words. You have done an awesome job with the show. I'M LOVING IT. 💎💎💎💎💎💎
That lady is so beautiful inside and out ❤
The first couple im so sorry he was taken advantage of, and all that happened 😢 .. The second couple, if you stay, once he cheated the first time, then you allowed yourself to accept anything . It's better to wait for GOD to send you who you're evenly yoked with and not who you choose.
He sounds like your best friend. I had a best friend like that. He did pamper me, but i felt like i was his beard. A woman can tell when someone has natural affection for her, and when someone doesn't, other people can judge, but her discernment tells her the truth.
As someone who is so gay they can't even think straight and has battled their sexuality their entire early life. From my experience I am getting absolutely no confusion in his sexuality his confused about being date raped and about trusting his partner nothing more
I wish the Karamo show gave lie detector tests!!!!! Bbayyy the show is already juicyy it would just be even greater!!
She is absolutely beautiful, inside and out. So intelligent and poised. I pray 🙏🏼 they were able to iron out all the problems, they make a beautiful couple.
This is a reason why people need stop living together as if they are married. Our world is just sad
@karamo we need updates on these showes
He is not mature enough for a steady relationship yet .
The first man is extremely sensitive and feels deeply but he’s unable to process those feelings
Man im on his side real tough. Poor guy
I'm so happy he's attending counseling and realizing he needs help. God bless you young man
She needs to skip, hope, jump, away from him! He confused and needs to be alone for a while ❤
This lady got some big bags under her eyes my lawd she stress out baddttt y'all having all these problems this early on geesh.....
He is too soft for her tuff as. Scene time 5:00 from the rip she came out pointing with much hand movement and her tone, uncalled for.
Why is she coming out so defensive if it make him feel bad just quit or break up
Isaiah, it's called vulnerability. That's why you date, you JUDGE people's actions, & than you decide if they are a good fit 👍🏾... 4YOU! Not anybody else ... & vise versa
Is it me, or is that dude sweeter than a fresh baked pan of sugar cookies? Looks like he got a lot of "sweet" in his tank... imo.
Yeah he might be struggling with that for sure. Struggling to accept that anyway
Yup! Definitely see it.
The exact yummy personality women should actually ask for in a relationship because they’ll give a woman love AND be there for their children
does it matter?
He’s definitely struggling with his sexuality she needs to accept they’re just besties. I love how Karamo isn’t pulling him out of the closet cause I’m sure he knows it too.
Hell yea that's why they had that big moment about his outfit soon he came out 😅 u ain't never seen him greet somebody that geeked 😂
1st case: He is so scared of women and hurt because of that date rape. Hope he heals in Jesus name.
2nd: I don't know why woman fin reasons to stay after catching someone cheating. Love is not submitting to those things.
She's putting too much energy into that so called relationship she's in her telling the story is exhausting
He is struggling with his sexuality and taking it out on her. Karamo knows, he just can’t say it.
Isaiah could barely look at his woman...he was busy gazing into Karamos eyes...he needs to come out of the closet...
Cap😂😅
Hes has ptsd
I dont think the 2nd woman was controlling. Just because she doesnt mind an open relationship, doesnt mean that he can be sneak talking to other women and not be honest about it. And open relationship is called just that, being 'open' about what you're doing, otherwise it'll still be considered sneaky/or cheating to some
Exactly, karamo ruined it, blamed her and gave him a pass.
She really doesnt want the open relationship he does and she thinks she has to control it to keep imhim in check but participating in trysts is just opening pandoras box she knows her day is coming
She needs to calm herself and listen to her man then respond,but let him talk
He said she was controlling but if it’s outside of the scope of their agreement it’s cheating and NOT controlling and oddly enough Karamo has made this argument for others in the past. Cheating is anything outside of the scope of the agreement made. If if openness is apart of the relationship BUT not going out and doing your own thing is a stipulation then it’s cheating
I agree i felt similarly. I think the cameras is a bit much (like if your doing all that the trust is shattered) but she isnt necessarily the one at fault here. Sounds like hes sort of shady.
Ive also noticed that it seems karamo doesnt really understand how to properly comment on polyamorous/open relationships bc sometimes he misreads things. Communication and mutaual agreement seems to be key.
I can relate to him so much
When he told Karamo he needed help aawwww. 😢😢 most men don’t like to ask other men for help.
This is about the second couple. As a polyam person, you can absolutely cheat in any form of an open relationship. I don't think Karamo is well verse enough in polyamory to speak on this, and calling her controlling was unfair without diving deeper. I think more communication needed to be had. but I generally love what he did for the first couple and many others.
I'm not even poly and I caught that. It seemed like he didn't understand that you can have an open relationship with the stipulation that both parties are involved with the invited party. I didn't think this was handled well and the guy just got a scape goat....
The woman has immense anger issues, she does need to do things too to work on the relationship
The Second Lady is ANNOYING! She not gonna leave him…they probably living together unhappily as we speak 😂 She is a joke and thought she was going to embarrass him…and she is the one 😂
He is manipulative. He plays with her emotions. He knows she loves him so he gives her the silent treatment when she doesnt toe his line. Girl run. I have met guys who are soft spoken but very temperamental.
This is clearly a trauma response. It’s fair for her to leave but he isn’t trying to manipulate her. They both need to work on themselves before they can be together
The first episode, the man gives her silent treatment and manipulates her that way. Very controlling. Not have sex for one year and in a relationship and living together, wow!!
Cap 🤪s
@RefinedbyAda He"s 😱 🤪 he was raped
Praying for yall
Toxicity is the main aphrodisiac in situationship #2. They freaky and it could actually work. Weirdly enough I want this thing to work out. 😂
He needs to get therapy and take time to himself for healing. His traumas are going to be a burden to every person he tries to be in a relationship with until he learns to cope and heal. She needs to give him space for her own sanity.
He's a sheltered gamer. He didn't seem gay more stuck in his childhood and a lil green. He's going to have to grow up to keep that woman though. And everyone saying she hot headed naw she just frustrated. she aint been "adjusted" in a year and not even getting intimacy.
They both need a man 🤣
I’m very concerned that they haven’t been intimate in a year & they live together…she seems super explosive & combative
She. Sees
She needs to be alone! She reminds me of an over protective mother!
She fell into his arms i hope this works for them they do look good together he needs more counseling
That first guy needs tbh with his self and quit abusing women because he's battling with his truth.🏳️🌈
She's too aggressive she has guilt all over her face that's why she's so defensive 😮
Did the date taper go to jail? Doesn’t sound like it. This is horrible
I hope the first couple can make it!!!!! I REALLY DO!
In the first case, he definitely does not love her. She is convenient: takes care of the baby and is the image of a traditional stayhome wifey with a bonus: works feom home. When they hugged... after such a klong time, he was not into it, he was looking somewhere else, like it was forced. When asked why did he stay with her he said "because I CARE about her", he didn't say "I love her".
The way he told about his episode was he heard about the party and went to the party (apparently aline), he met thos random girl who drugged him and did her business with him. He ends up in hospital, in shock and hurt. No recollection of what had happened. I believe he does have serious troubles. The way he sways back and forth, always looking upwards. I know tv sets have these scaffolding where electricians and sound technicians are above moving around, but normal people don't stare continuously there.
She's not realizing this yet, but he's not who he seems. By the way, the clothes are given by the wardrobe people at the studio, it's not their own clothes. That's wuite telling in my opinion.
I hope she moved on. He's not being honest. He is holding her back, trying to force her into a caretaker relationship. He should figure out his issues instead of forcing her into a bogus relationship.
There is no way the 2nd lady is 36 😳 if she is then she needs to take a break from men and take care of herself because she is stressed TF out.
I'm sorry, this comment is sending me 😂😂
I was legit thinking the same thing, I’m actually surprised more people aren’t taken aback. She looks every bit of 50 something, and the way she keeps saying she’s 36 is sending me 😭🤣
Sorry dear you are good men 😢❤
I swear this guy got a twin who was on a Bounty Hunter D episode about some girl finding her baby daddy and this guy was one of 3 men, but he wasn’t shy or soft in that video like in this they look exactly alike it’s crazy
I believe that he may be bisexual. He loves her as a BFF not a spouse. He does have a unique story and I think he should've pressed charges on her ( his baby mom). He probably went to therapy due to his sexuality and having an unplanned or something he may not have seen in his future and that threw his life for a loop. She there for comfort, to keep his mind on something else. He don't want his daughter going places with her! Hopefully he loves her enough to tell her the truth and let her find the love that she's get that love from someone else. She may know but having a in house BFF thats romantic and attentive in the opposite sex is all a woman needs sometimes. Good luck to them! 🤞🏾
1st story I hope she knows he's NOT straight😒
33:09 Unlock the Phone results
I’m not downplaying his trauma at all, but what straight man would not have sex with their live in girlfriend for a year? He does not want a woman and he just doesn’t want to come to terms with it. Then she is his first serious relationship at 30+ years old.
But you are downplaying his trauma….being sexually assaulted can cause someone regardless of sex to force themselves into a shell and struggle with intimacy. Homophobia and patriarchy are so engrained in our society that this type of thinking is the result of a man being vulnerable enough to share his trauma. Not everyone is fucking Michael B Jordan. Some men are softer than others.
I really hope this young lady moves on. He’s confused sexually…. He’s been severely traumatized. Be his roommate his homie but stop the romantic relationship or lack there of. He’s a good dude just not for her. Therapy is a must. Praying for these two.
Girl he wants a boyfriend 😅
There's a lot of straight men that 👄 like that😂😅.
He doesn’t love her because he doesn’t love himself. Marylin is a BOSS. Period. Stop.
Good girl 😢❤
He's not struggling with sexuality He's struggling with accepting that he's gay
He gay and that’s the real problem
No, there's a lot of straight people that talk like that.
@@auzy2u845 what makes you think it’s the way he talk🤣🤣
I commend him gor getting his daughter but as far as a relationship HES DEFINITELY NOT READY AND THATS HARD BECAUSE SHES SUFFERING BECAUSE SHE LOVES BIM N HE WONT LET HER IN BUT HES COMFORTABLE TO LET HER INTO WATCH HIS DAUGHTER AND BE A MOTHER TO HIS DAUGHTER COME ON THIS SI SOMETHING
She create this mess and has to deal w it!
What was on the screen of that phone 😂
She is very loud rough and hard and he seems very soft laid back and docile like their roles are reversed.
He did not even look at her when he said he loved her and paused. Mama he does not love you! He is using you for what you do for him.
Cap🙄 uncomfortable
He’s not ready for a relationship. I think this is one the best girls out there. He has to come up to here standard she’s a good girl. Maybe she can do better if he can’t change.
He is clearly very damaged. N his past messed him and communicating up. I feel for him. She definitely wasn’t understanding him and he does have a lot of working on himself to do. But she wasn’t understanding bc again his communication he didn’t learn much on how to do it or express himself correct.
Karamo was wrong on the second one in my opinion. People bring others into their relationships all the time and there are rules that people have to follow when they’re in relationships like that. If you go off and do your own thing on the side and break the rules. That’s the same as somebody breaking the rules in a monogamous relationship. Because if she was to say oh, well, I would’ve slept with this guy because I liked him, oh boy would be upset