Inflation Beaters: Cars to Invest in - Jason Cammisa presents the 2023 Hagerty Bull Market
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- Опубликовано: 6 дек 2022
- What do a Lamborghini Murciélago, a C5 Corvette Z06, and a NISMO 350Z have in common?
And why are they together with a Saab 900 Turbo, Hummer H1, and Harley-Davidson Knucklehead?
They - together with the Suzuki Cappuccino, 4th-generation Toyota pickup, Mercedes SLR McLaren, AMC AMX, and Audi R8 - have been chosen for the 2023 Hagerty Bull Market.
Every year, Hagerty’s Valuation Team picks ten collector cars (and one motorcycle) that are poised to appreciate in value. This year, we made a video with them all together, presented by Jason Cammisa and Randy Pobst - with the help of a crystal ball, Willow Springs International Raceway, and some beautiful back roads.
Introducing the 2023 Bull Market List in collaboration with @OfficialMobil1.
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whats the song played when 6:58 when Randy is in the bike?
How do I get a job as a Hagerty valuation analyst lol
If you’re not first you’re last -Ricky Bobby 😎🤙🏾
When you guys mentioned the Saab 900 turbo, as the first non sports car turbo. I thought, what about the 1983 Subaru wagon with a turbo?
@@joegibbs2508 please take a look at the production yrs of a Classic 900 (1978-1993). Then you may even see that there was a 99 turbo model before. Soo..yes, Saab did the first turbo (not strictly sport) serial production cars indeed.
The shot of the R8 and the Murcielago together is exactly the sort of stuff that makes me want to rob a bank!
Giving you a thumbs up on this comment... but please don't rob a bank!
until you drive one and find that it drive like a normal audi
It's a free country
@@Hagerty question, would hagerty insure a getaway car?
@@NotUrDJ the perfect getaway car blends in. Rav4 prime perhaps?
Man it’s a holiday when there is a Cammisa film dropped
A double holiday as a Throttle House video dropped at almost the exact same time
I'm liking the team up a lot too. They're very fun together. Cammisa brings everything Top Gear lost that The Grand Tour isnt plus his own flair. We need more!
One of the few things that make RUclips worth watching
Low key best auto journalist
It was fantastic to ride that antique hand-shift Harley, and try out this huge variety of cars n trucks. Sometimes, it’s a great thing to be Randy Pobst. Thanks, Jason and Hagerty!!!
They need to keep this randy pobst guy. He is a legend.
you look great on it!
Get this man behind a steering wheel immediately
Also just an idea. How about doing a fastest track car for the money. Where you can compare depreciated sports and luxury cars. Randy could give his race opinions and Jason can give his on road opinions. I always love learning about the automotive bargains in the used car world.
Randy I hope your back in a cayman or 911 soon. You make them animated like disney
You and Randy rule as a video team Jason. Keep it up.
2:00 made me laugh and groan at the same time. Well done.
Jonny missing out on the fun.
Thank you!
I joined hagerty drivers club thanks to all these Camissa videos. Hagerty - keep funding these
Same. I wouldn't watch if this was one of those Car and Driver jokers.
I’m all for THAT, Balu!
@@randypobstofficial oh yeah I like you too
Well, we all are funding these videos. 😂.. especially when our cars are insured through Hagerty
Haaaa! Me too! Added my ‘69 427 Vette to their portfolio! Ha
I love that when Jason is driving the bottom text says "closed course, professional idiot" and when Randy drives it says "professional driver" 😂😂😂 the beautiful production and the small details make me anjoy this videos af. Thank you so much
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I believe that’s Jason’s doing, he was told he needed to have a disclaimer but he wanted it to be funny. Guy is a certified national treasure 😂
The footage of Randy absolutely wheeling the Hummer on a twisty mountain road was such an unexpected treat!
This is financial advice and I never give financial advice: DONT LEAVE DURING THE BEAR. If you don’t want to invest…learn. If you don’t want to learn…build. If you don’t want to build observe. DO SOMETHING…other than leave. There is so much opportunity here. Take advantage!
Reminds me of the phrase...."Rising tide raises all boats" to which Warren Buffet added "It’s only when the tide goes out that you discover who’s been swimming naked"
^Bull markets produce many self-claimed stock pickers but in reality, the true stock market genius is born in a bear market
I want to build a diversified portfolio based on my persona. I am easily triggered/highly emotional and that could be detrimental to my portfolio. I wish i am patient and systematic person. day trading is not for everyone and multiyear holding is not for everyone. i know my strengths thats why i need proper guidance to be able to venture.
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@@vanesseparker1619 your assertion that as we age we become more risk averse rings so much true to me. Can you recommend any fiduciary Financial Advisor?
I really wish Saab still made cars. In the day, I owned the 900 and a 9-5 turbo. Fun cars to drive and very well-made.
Till your gearbox died
Ha, ha. Had a 900 SPG and two 9-3’s, aside from a bad 900 wheel bearing, they were perfect. As he said, fun to drive and well made.
Many people forget how fast SAAB turbos were on the highway. Very few cars had the legs to run with them back then.
@@rootsmanuva82 the cars that I used to beat on the open highway in my SPG at the time with the only mod being a short shifter kit.....Porsche 944s, 300ZXs, GTIs, 3rd Generation Supra Turbos, any number of BMWs, 5.0s, IROC/RS Camaros,etc.
The only thing worse than a Saab is a Volvo.
I’ve just bought a 900 turbo Carlsson edition, so was delighted to see the Saab on this list!
I bought a C5 Z06 recently and honestly I'm not surprised,. They are such good cars.
Same, have had mine for about a year now and it's such a good platform. Not without its issues, but minor compared to other sports cars of similar performance.
The production and content value of these shows just keeps getting better and better. Randy and Jason are THE pair to make this happen and I'm so glad stuff like this exists.
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The R8 is shockingly good compared to modern cars. Just picked up a V8 Manual and it’s amazing! Such an engaging car to drive!
Awesome video as always guys!
Would you be interested to trade for £8 in cash, à bag of chips and a Land Law textbook?
@@surrealtom oof. That’s a tough one, but I think I might pass on that for now 😂
So you’ve been enjoying it huh?
@@KN-jw7ts 100%. It’s awesome, much more engaging car than my C8 but still a good enough ride to enjoy on road trips
@@drivenmad2089 haha that's fair enough 😂. But on another note, have you considered getting a manual 4.7 V8 Vantage? And no, this isn't some bad joke, the V8s in the Vantage are genuinely bulletproof (under Ford ownership, after all).
Thank you for this amazing video Jason, Randy and crew. This is a treat for all car guys souls. Thank you so much for this excellent content! ❤
That R8 is still my desktop wallpaper since 2006 ☺ Love the content!
I still say they should have called this one the R10.
Never fails to put a smile on my face knowing I have one of the greatest trucks on earth, I was fortunate enough to get my ExtraCab 4x4 Toyota Pickup in my early 20's and while I have 0 intention of selling it I still enjoy seeing it get the love it deserves 30+ years later in the automotive world. 300k miles and climbing
Its not a truck. Its a ute
@@janeblogs324 not in the states, you say tomato, I say it's my truck and I'll call it what I please 😋
My only disappointment in the entire video was they didn’t do an onboard driving review with it!
Seeing Randy & Jason having so much fun makes so happy
Pretty much the 2 best car guys to watch. Pobst and Cammisa know their stuff. And they drive like mad! I love it! We need more of these guys driving together
Cammisa and the Murcielago thumbnail immediately meant that this video is another must watch. Thank you Hagerty!!! 💜
The best automotive content being produced today. Anywhere. Full stop. Keep the great stuff coming, Cammisa and Pobst are fantastic!
Never thought the Murcielago and SLR sound so good together
This is so well done, as always! Jason, Randy, you guys (and production team) rock. Don’t agree with risking money on any car as an investment, but, definitely agree that ownership of these cars, and similar, can be a huge source of joy in life! Thank you for producing this.
Whoever is uploading these in native 21:9 go get a raise because it looks SO SO SO good on my monitor, big film studios like freaking Disney can't even upload in native 21:9 so huge props to you all for keeping the quality so insanely high!
Because everyone at home has a 16:9 TV
Suzuki cars in USA were an underrated fizzy alternative to the cheapest Toyotas. Nice to see the Cappuccino up there with $100,000+ cars.
I have had many suzuki samurais
@@802yotaguy5 Still have mine after 22 years. 😎
@@jacklandismcgowan1413 mine has toyota axles underneath it hopefully one day it will have either a 1.8t audi engine or a vw tdi
@@802yotaguy5 here in india , people use samarai as rally car . It's g13 b can be tuned hard over 400 hp
The bastard child of my fleet is a suzuki aerio. My wife loves it more than she loves me.
Jason & Randy are such a wonderfully badass duo!
Not to mention all the camera work, the script writing, the editing.. man the whole production is simply damn impressive!
Thank you Jason, Randy & everyone that helped make this happen!!
Anything that is a rare manual is a good investment. Ferrari 599, 612, F430, Lambo Gallardo, Murcielago or even Alfa Romeo Giulia QV's (only in Europe though), you name it
Cammisa and Throttle House both dropping videos makes this a great morning!
Thanks!
Wow amazing to see both the 350Z nismo and C5 Z06 on here. Had both at the same time at one point. Sold my millennium yellow Z06 with 22k miles for a rio yellow AP2 S2000. Still have my Nismo with 12k miles on it 😊
Cammisa right now is the GOT of car videos, makes me feel like an amalgam of clarkson, hammond and May is possible. Great video guys.
Well I guess if you tell 2.5 million car enthousiasts that these cars will be worth more money in 2023, you have just made all of these cars worth more in 2023 :)
Feels good to see an AMX get some love.....although they existed in the shade of other Big 3 musclecars of that era they were competitive and had good lines....add the fact that it was only one of three factory 2 seater cars ever built at that time (the Corvette and the '55'56'57 T-birds) it was unique and appealed to people who wanted something different....I'm happy to say that I am one of them.....I bought one in 1982 as a Junior in HS....a 1969 Bittersweet Orange AMX (like the one shown in the video) 390 4spd that I paid $2800 for back then.....I still own it to this day 40 years and counting.....still a hoot to drive and run through the gears......glad to see Hagerty feels the AMX is worthy to be added to this list.....been a NOTBIG3 guy for a long time appreciate the love Hagerty!!
They're beautiful cars... I have a white and black striped AMX 390 w/the Go Pack in my collection... Nice to see an AMX in a quality video...
You said it Jason! I am part of the generation enthralled by the 350Z and G35 exhaust sound. Absolutely iconic for me.
Honestly sounds like crap 😂. Especially when all the kids straight pipe them and run them through town it’s as bad as a civic
VQ for LIFE🦾
@@mr.lowslow7702 Most sound bad with a straight pipe though. With an actual exhaust, it sounds great.
The VQ sounds like Chewbacca 😂
I was wondering if I was the only one who didn't like the sound of the VQ. Fine when you can't hear them (stock exhaust). But anything over that and they sound horrible.
Gotta love the blue smoke coming out of the 350z's exhaust on those close-ups.
I will never forget seeing the first Audi R8 when they came out. Beautiful.
I'm loving this episode. Jason and Randy has always been dynamic since motortrend days. The examples of the 350Z and Z06 used in this episode are the appropriate vehicular equivalent of M&M peanuts; my favorite.
That is the most beautiful Murcielago ive ever seen. That spec is perfect.
I love the chemistry between you and Randy. I hope you get to keep making videos together.
Juan cornhole-io?
Congrats Jason, Randy, Anthony and crew for this EPIC video! You’ve done it again!
Great to have Randy on! He is a natural! More Randy and Camisa please! I met Randy at Sebring and he is a great guy!
Brilliant work as always, from the imagery to the dialogue. And Randy on that Knucklehead is ice-cold cool
It’s this type of content that makes me strongly consider Hagerty as an option for insuring my project car.
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I did too, until I got a quote. ☠ I decided to just use my normal insurance and prepare for battle with the value of the car.
@@TurboHappyCar …the ongoing battle!!! 😅😂🤣
The Lambo, the R8 and the SLR gave me Need for Speed flashbacks. It was Most Wanted times all over again, those noises
Finally, the SLR gets the recognition it deserves. Man I’ve waited for this moment forever
Do you own one? Probably not. Do you realize it “getting the recognition it deserves” means it will be harder for you to purchase one?
@@jgrodz8889 I'm pretty sure an SLR McLaren is unattainable for most of us right now, whether they appreciate well in the future or not, so kind of a moot point don't you think....
It literally does not deserve any 'recognition', as it was a complete dud and a mistake. Even McLaren itself was embarrassed about the thing by the time they started to see what Mercedes' forced compromises are starting to result in, during the development process.
I love it when Jason and Randy get together, you know it's going to be good!!!
Goosebumps, high class material, like good old TopGear with Clarkson. Chapeau bas.
There’s something oddly fitting about Randy driving that AMX. 🤣
Yeah, I was alive when they came out, haha. I’d own one in a minute. Two-seater American muscle car!
What! He's no more goofy than the rest of the AMC world. Good to see so many AMC products (2, including the Hummer) on the list.😎👍
Perfect, just bought an R8 V8 manual in mint condition with low mileage a few months ago. Should be good alongside my C6 Z06 Z07 Centennial Edition and Evo IX. Sadly I buy these things, instantly fall in love with them and don't make any money selling them ever :D
Buy and hold. They WILL appreciate. We felt that way about so many cars before. Even the ultimate Shelby Cobra was cheap at one point in time.
@@randypobstofficial Randy, thank you for your comment, much appreciated. I will hold them for sure, especially the Z06 as it is my childhood hero. The Z07 cars are criminally underrated in my opinion. I live in Germany and this is a VERY exotic car over here (1 of 9 EU spec Centennial Editions ever built). The Evo IX with the 4G63 is an analogue gem as well. And the R8, that seeizes production by the end of next year, prices have to go up then, I'm almost certain they will. The question is am I willing to sell it, which seems more unlikely every time I drool over the shape, hear the shifter click through the gates or wind it past 6000 rpm and feel it come alive until its time to click again at 8000 - just beautiful.
Very good selection you had in this video, love the content and also love both you and Jason. True enthusiasts!
Jason Cammisa & Randy Pobst duo is goated.
I think it's fair to say that Cammisa is the star of Hagerty media. Also the chemistry between Jay and Randy seems to legit, it's enjoyable to watch.
As a man in my late 20s I'm glad I discovered my love of old bikes and cars early. I have so much time to drive/ride the cooler older machines.
The level of epic of this video is off the charts!!! Watching this is a joy and makes reading the magazine that much more enjoyable. Man Jason and Hagerty are just crushing it!
Thank goodness you left out so many other epic and appreciating cars. Seriously.
Always beautifully and masterfully done as usual! Any day that I am unhappy or feeling down, I can watch Jason and Randy and I feel so so much better. You guys are gems and absolutely need to be preserved at all costs. Thank You for yet another AMAZING video
How is Anthony so much better at his job than anyone else 😂
These vehicles sound SO much better than anything these companies are producing today.
And I’m embarrassed to say that, I forgot how good that R8 looks. And sounds.
The C8 Z06 sounds amazing frm the factory....
@@Forever.Remain.Nameless ditto.
Don't squirrel your pennies away folks. Live a little. Buy a car. By a car like these, or a motorcycle. The only guarantee in life is today.
I so much love that the Saab 900 made this list. I've owned three over the years and have been wanting another. Looks like I'm about to get priced out!
Dear Hagerty, I will watch ANYTHING that Jason puts out! Please keep him happy.
-A customer that pays for your collectors' car insurance
One of the reasons I bought a 911 a few months ago. Loving the joy of driving it, and they hold there value damn well.
The quality and presentation of Jason's videos is truly next level. I enjoy and watch every single one and forward them to every car guy I know.
Just lovely as usual. What a collection of truly astounding cars (and a motorcycle). I watched this video with the brightness at max and with the most highest resolution my connection could handle and it was beautiful! Amazing video Hagerty, truly a special one.
Rented a red R8 V8, with carbon trim and side blades on Turo for 3 nights, then a W205 C63 amg for 2 nights. One of the best birthday weeks i've ever had!
KEEP UP THE CAMMISA VIDEOS… THATS WHY WE KEEP COMING BACK
KEEP SCREAMING IN THE COMMENTS, that's why *I* COME BACK! WOOO!
We need more time with the Toyota pickup!
Disappointed it got such a short time slot without even driving it!
Yeah, apologies on that. We just flat-out ran out of time. (And I was sick beyond belief.) We did all we could do - which wasn't enough on that Toyota!
All the lightweighting effort on the C5 Z06 Corvette was worth it in the end as it had one of the fastest Ring times and lap times of any production car at the time. "When the C5 Corvette Z06 clocked its 7:56 time, it was a pretty big deal. GM claimed it was the first production car to break past the eight-minute mark."
Thanks for making me smile after a long, hard year. You guys rock. Wishing you the best over Christmas and NY
Absolutely EPIC!! Glad you enjoyed the Nismo Z. I loved that car, and awesome to see it sliding the track one last time. The new owner is enjoying it just as much!
Oh, gawd, NOW you tell me it was for sale?! lol - but seriously, I that thing sounded brilliant and was a riot. Thank you - and I can't wait to see that thing on the street somewhere!
Jason and randy ,a perfect combo for fun packed car videos.
Love a lot of these, but the gem is the SLR, for me.
I used to worship the Hummer/Humvee as a teen when I first started getting big into cars. A big part of why I chose to join the Marines, and become a diesel mechanic, which in turn was why I went reserves instead of active (only way to absolutely guarantee MOS choice) was to work on Humvees. I placed first in class on graduation from 3521 school, and was in the 3rd class trained on the then-new MTVR 7 ton from Oshkosh (which is a badass medium truck), and that whole "never meet your hero" adage couldn't have been more apt. I now have nothing but contempt for the humvee. It is a heinously inept truck, and is junk through and through. It's because of this experience I am ambivalent about ever experiencing my other teenage dream car, the AMG CLK-GTR. I'd rather hold on to the romanticized idea of that car than deal with the bitter taste of ashes if it too fails to meet the hyped status I have built for it in my mind over the last two and a half decades.
Bull market was pretty good, I purchased a first gen mr2 because they said back in 2018 or so they would go up in value and they did. Wish I was smart enough to have kept it until now 😭
Great list and I would drive or ride any of these cars. The Jason and Randy combination is great.
Love the video and Jason as usual. That said - has anyone from Hagerty ever looked at prices for manual LP640s?? Those cars are incredibly rare and wildly expensive, way over $500k. Hard to believe that they're "undiscovered" when ultra high end dealers like Curated are listing them alongside Miuras and asking 7 figures for good examples...
Indeed, the '20-30%' premium over e-gear versions is quite outdated. It doesn't help that high-end dealers, and content creators, are essentially market-making since most examples go through them.
Wow another masterpiece by Jason Crew. Amazing chemistry with Randy and unreal story telling. LOVE IT!
While having a 21:9 main screen, as well as 16:9 and 16:10 screens to cover the more common aspect ratios in content, I always greatly appreciate when videos are natively shot in 21:9 (or its "relatives"). Widescreen is such a boon.
Fantastic video as per usual. 🤘
(Edit: Great timestamp. haha)
I really should’ve bought a c5Z when they were 15-18k good condition.
Instead of trying to predict and prognosticate whether or not we’re going into a recession and precisely when it’s going to happen, a better strategy is simply having a portfolio that’s well prepared for any eventually, that’s how some folks' been averaging 150K every 7week these past 4months according to Bloomberg.
That’s crazy, I’m just doing everything wrong with my portfolio
The US-Stock Market had been on it’s longest bull-run in history, so the mass hysteria and panic is relatable considering we’re not accustomed to such troubled markets, but there are avenues lurking around if you know where to look I’ve netted over $850k in the past 10months.
@@andrewwiggins3190 That does make a lot of sense, good for you though, unlike me, you seem to have the Market figured out.
Here in Bulgaria the 350z already jumped up in value. There aren't much of them listed for sale but those that are are almost double what they were in the beginning of the year. There was even one particularly good example that was bought and resold several months later with about $8K premium.
wow... i don't know how i've never heard of this channel. I watch stuff like this daily but somehow youtube never recomended. Love the 350z and the AMX
Never...heard...?!? Gasp. Okay, then you have a LOT of catching up to do!
@@JasonCammisa believe me, i’m as surprised as you are my friend. Glad it popped up in my rec’s today! Cheers
That Nismo Z was so cool to me when I had my base model. Emulated the look of the Super GT car they raced back then
You two guys are so great together.
Excellent job fellas. More please!!
So glad you guys brought in a Saab!
The R8 and the Murci part was epic, loved every single one of the cars in this video. 👏🏽 👏🏽 Randy is a legend.
These videos are so well put together
Loving the motorcycle coverage Hagerty is mixing in!!! 💪💪💪
such a beautiful video! exceptional production and such a good collection of cars (and a motorcycle). it's hard to believe that we get to watch videos of such quality for free. hagerty hiring jason and randy is one of the best things to have happened to car youtube!
Omg Jason and Randy made this so amazing!!! Keep up the amazing work Hagerty. These videos are amazing 🔥
I love this type of content, and the Lambo, and R8 are beautiful cars. So timeless in their silhouettes.
Jason, Randy and the crew are fantastic as always. Thanks for this excellent video.
Man this was an excellent gathering of different vehicles. And the production! I want more of these. Thanks for the vid, i'm re-watching it.
As always, a great video..
The SLR is seriously underrated!
Love to see Jason and Randy together.
Something was telling me that the C5 Z06 wasn't going to get much cheaper for clean examples and I'm glad I pulled the trigger.
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omg! so happy you invluded Saab there, im a huge fan of then and my dad just bought one!!
Love how you cover motorcycles too. As always amazing content guys.
18:00 ++ Respect for Randy. It's takes skill, a scientific mind and a bit of luck to stay that athletic at his age.
I check every day for a new Hagerty video...BUT...if Jason is not in it, I don't watch it. No offense to the other hosts, but Jason is just on a different level.
NEVER STOP DRIVING!!!
Mannnn each one of these deserves its own episode!
Dear Jason and VW Corrado 2.9 VR6 VSR full RECARO ?!
Another great Hagerty video! Keep up the good work!
Side note: Late model Jeep Cherokees (XJ). I think XJs in good condition are going up in value while staying a little under the radar.
XJ's will go up as the herd thins out. That's how it went with SJ's.
Yes! I have a 2000 XJ 4.0 Orvis here in Scotland - might sell it early next year to fund something else, but would probably kick myself later.