Snooker Incident | Untold Moments of the McGill-Clarke Incident at the 2020 World Championship

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
  • The incident includes four awkward episodes between Anthony McGill and Jamie Clarke on the Crucible in 2020, some of which went unnoticed.
    NOTE: what is written below about motivations is only a personal opinion.
    Although Clarke entered McGill's field of vision 2-3 times before, it likely wasn't deliberate as he was in full control of the game. Besides, his confidence was at the top after defeating world #4 Mark Allen in his previous match.
    McGill certainly had the right to ask Clarke to step out of his field of vision, but he overreacted. His frustration at his poor performance surely played a role there.
    It was an undeserved situation for Clarke, but he should have worked to stay focused on his game as a professional. Instead, his tweet during the break was self-defeating.
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    Official rulebook - Section 4: The players
    5. Non-striker
    "The non-striker shall, when the striker is playing, avoid standing or moving in the line of sight of the striker. Instead, they shall sit or stand at a reasonable distance from the table and avoid making any movement or action that may interrupt the concentration of the striker."
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Комментарии • 502

  • @Spudchucker92
    @Spudchucker92 3 года назад +11

    Well presented video. No unnecessary voice overs, clearly explaining what was going on without trying to be over dramatic. Thumbs up.

  • @harveymorgan8363
    @harveymorgan8363 4 года назад +75

    I cannot believe you’ve found all of this information,fantastic work keep going.

  • @Anu_Sol
    @Anu_Sol 4 года назад +157

    Clarke make himself look a right knob Tweeting that and then losing after being 7-2 up.

    • @Box0rz
      @Box0rz 4 года назад +19

      8-2 up.

    • @Anu_Sol
      @Anu_Sol 4 года назад +32

      @@Box0rz I stand corrected. He looked an even bigger knob than I thought then.

    • @jordi_stuart5800
      @jordi_stuart5800 4 года назад +23

      @@Anu_Sol McGill was the bigger Knob

    • @jordanwillrog
      @jordanwillrog 4 года назад +2

      Clarke the absolute mug , gutted McGill lost to kyren :(

    • @domgarner1173
      @domgarner1173 4 года назад +8

      McGill isnt even in the same league as Kyren, and shouldnt have got that far anyway, grumpy prick

  • @hystericalwolf
    @hystericalwolf 4 года назад +53

    When McGill asked Clarke the second time, that should've been it, but no, anything else after that was unnecessary. It was childish on both parts to continue it on when they left.

  • @Alberts_Stuff
    @Alberts_Stuff 3 года назад +7

    This was an excellent video, I enjoy watching snooker spats for some reason, and this was laid out perfectly and earns a sub. Great work 👌🏼

  • @farikomike524
    @farikomike524 3 года назад +82

    I love snooker but my god do they complain about f**k all sometimes.

    • @derekmerry784
      @derekmerry784 3 года назад +3

      Not good to see you got no Idea what ya saying.. your better sticking to pocket ball playing double handed

    • @michaelanderson7715
      @michaelanderson7715 3 года назад +4

      @@derekmerry784 you're

    • @gerv55
      @gerv55 3 года назад

      @@derekmerry784 The whole eyeline thing does seem to be a bit overdone though when they have tournaments where players on the other tables are in their eyeline. The German masters for instance the tables only have like waist height separators so the players can see across multiple tables, yet that doesn't interfere with their eyeline having movement from other tables?

  • @snkrmad
    @snkrmad 4 года назад +18

    Simple explanation on this: "When you're in trouble, things magnify"

    • @young321bookie
      @young321bookie 4 года назад +4

      Simple explanation to this: "When you're 8-2 down and you're almost certainly going to lose, then resort to disgusting tactics to try and mentally throw your opponent off".
      McGill showed his true colours throughout all of this. Shame on him Forevermore.

  • @EannaButler
    @EannaButler 4 года назад +92

    Funny that McGill was effectively accusing Clarke of unsportsmanlike behaviour, when what resulted was him stressing Clarke out, who I don’t believe intentionally started anything here. McGill was the aggressor on the offensive here, not Clarke, from my viewpoint. Bad vibes..

    • @EannaButler
      @EannaButler 4 года назад +3

      But good vid! 😊

    • @CesarMuroya
      @CesarMuroya  4 года назад +29

      I think Jan Verhaas shouldn't have warned Clarke again after the interval. That was shocking for Clarke. Also, he should have asked both players, not just Clarke, not to stand when they were in their places. In the first session they were both standing in their opponent's field of vision, at least McGill once and Clarke 2 or 3 times.

    • @EannaButler
      @EannaButler 4 года назад +9

      @@CesarMuroya Agree 👍
      He was singled-out. Not unlike being bullied, all told.. Biggest match of his life...

    • @christopherfarrington9270
      @christopherfarrington9270 3 года назад +6

      what most people don't understand about this situation is that your peripheral vision extends to more than just someone standing in front of you even someone standing slightly behind you can put you off your shot so therefore anthony mcgill was right and he should not have had to ask clarke twice to sit down and as we have seen this week even ronnie osullivan had a pop at mark allen for the very same reason.

    • @abysmalvoid
      @abysmalvoid 3 года назад +12

      There is no point in discussing intent. Whether Clarke meant it or not, he shouldn't be in McGill's line of sight when he's taking a shot.
      He did it multiple times after getting warned by the referee.
      McGill did nothing wrong.

  • @beddau4ever
    @beddau4ever 3 года назад +30

    I have an issue with the referee saying “when he plays a shot I want you back in your chair.”
    Then McGill is seen standing on two shots whilst Clarke is playing. The rule must be enforced on both not just one.
    Naive by Clarke tweeting though.

    • @MrAwol007
      @MrAwol007 3 года назад +1

      well said

    • @elmirbrdar1045
      @elmirbrdar1045 3 года назад +1

      Totally agree

    • @james5780
      @james5780 3 года назад

      I agree, bad by yan

    • @SteS
      @SteS 3 года назад

      Here's what the rulebook says about the non-striker. Jan's 100% right.
      *Section 4.*
      5. Non-striker
      _The non-striker shall, when the striker is playing, avoid standing or moving in the line of sight of the striker. They shall sit or stand at a reasonable distance from the table and avoid making any movement or action that may interrupt the concentration of the striker._

    • @MrAwol007
      @MrAwol007 3 года назад +4

      @@SteS yes true jan is wright but McGill did it aswell but never got pulled up about it
      McGill is a moaning little bitch

  • @dash1141
    @dash1141 3 года назад +3

    Eternally grateful for this channel

  • @tsekala7774
    @tsekala7774 3 года назад +5

    Good job mate!! Keep doing that, we need some good snooker vids like these!!

  • @Liberty_Freedom_Brotherhood
    @Liberty_Freedom_Brotherhood 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for putting this together

  • @ScizGraffiti
    @ScizGraffiti 3 года назад +10

    I just want to throw it out there that if that fluke in the semi final went the other way and McGill got to the final, I think McGill would have had a great chance to win it. He wouldn't have been intimidated by his opponent and I think he would have done it, despite it being a long shot. BUT, this year is a new year, and McGill is seeded in the championships this time

  • @mr.perfect8805
    @mr.perfect8805 4 года назад +15

    Refree is just saying that "all u had to do was follow the damn train", JC

  • @johnarber3358
    @johnarber3358 3 года назад +18

    Clarke knows exactly what he,s doing.He,s trying to wind McGill up. You play your shot and then sit down. McGill completely right to call him for it and the ref should of pulled Clarke and warned him.

  • @JamboRiffs
    @JamboRiffs 4 года назад +14

    Never heard of McGill or Perry moaning about such things before so I am inclined to believe Clarke was either naïve or playing games. And sending that tweet during the match shows an aggressive lack of respect. I hope he recovers from the incidence and learns from it and does not get bitter.

    • @kevinprior3549
      @kevinprior3549 Год назад +1

      Seems Clarke is prone to getting in the way of his opposition's eyeline.

  • @misfit8974
    @misfit8974 4 года назад +56

    McGill was acting like a nob, like the video showed he asked him to move and sit down only to then play a different red which was the only right shot anyway. He was just looking for an excuse, a shame Clarke didn't stop it getting in his head. Glad McGill lost to Kyren.

    • @young321bookie
      @young321bookie 4 года назад +10

      I lost ALL respect for McGill over this, he's a bad person and I hope and Pray he gets what he deserves.

    • @pw9133
      @pw9133 4 года назад +3

      You're the nob

    • @jasonwalls1466
      @jasonwalls1466 4 года назад +1

      How was he 😂😂 he’s been bumped many a time and been sound about it you clearly don’t watch much snooker. The fact Clarke did it to perry in a different way said it all and tweeted a load of crap lol

    • @misfit8974
      @misfit8974 4 года назад +1

      @@jasonwalls1466 actually I watch a lot of snooker but not sure how that fits into the equation. I like McGill but in this instance he was wrong and frustrated, can't say I'd be any different but he is meant to be a professional. I saw the Perry incident, again was frustration and just picking out an excuse.
      And yes the Tweet was stupid, is what I meant by allowing McGill get in his head.

    • @jasonwalls1466
      @jasonwalls1466 4 года назад +1

      Misfit fair enough but do you not find it a bit weird that two people complained 2 matches?

  • @mrloop1530
    @mrloop1530 4 года назад +55

    Later on in the tournament, Selby was crying about his opponent playing shots that didn't please him.

    • @waytothewill
      @waytothewill 4 года назад +7

      Slowbie is a true cry-baby :)

    • @brunoandrade7768
      @brunoandrade7768 4 года назад +4

      It was totally desrespectful from Ronnie to play like that in the safety exchanges, but it is what it is

    • @waytothewill
      @waytothewill 4 года назад +6

      @@brunoandrade7768 Is it you, Slowbie? :)

    • @mrloop1530
      @mrloop1530 4 года назад +7

      @@brunoandrade7768 Loads of people have played H&H shots. It is not disrespectful. Sometimes it just seems like the best option.

    • @JayKTS
      @JayKTS 4 года назад +5

      McGill is a crybaby

  • @zainzahid9320
    @zainzahid9320 3 года назад +29

    It was totally a nonesense by Mcgill. Its just that he was losing and by this way he put alot of pressure on Clarke. And when clakre was playing a shot Mcgill was standing beside him which is totally not normal. He asked the refree to ask him to sit down and do the same as he did but refree said its ok which was not ok at all if a player is standing on ur head it gives u pressure.

    • @seanscanlon9067
      @seanscanlon9067 3 года назад +2

      I don't think that it is too much of an issue to be stood at the black end of the table behind the player at the table when you know that he will not be attempting a pot but playing safe by returning the cue ball back to the black end of the table. Yet having said that, if McGill has complained about Clarke not going back to his chair after playing, then he should have gone and sat down himself and Clarke was entitled to ask him to and the referee should not have intervened.
      Even if the difference was that on some of the shots, McGill was playing to pot the ball rather than play safe and you do not really want your opponent in your eye line when going for a pot.

    • @noegojimmy
      @noegojimmy 3 года назад +3

      You've got no clue what you're talking about. I've been watching snooker for 30 years and can't remember anyone behaved like Clarke. Ever.

    • @dsmith1888
      @dsmith1888 3 года назад

      Wtf did you just say?, hahaaaaa

  • @emreeves1853
    @emreeves1853 4 года назад +46

    Anthony was in the right here, all he was saying was that Jamie was in his eyeline, people make this out to be a massive controversy yet it wasn't really.

    • @redkingoldhero38
      @redkingoldhero38 4 года назад +10

      he's not in the right, Clarke wasn't in his eyeline yet McGill told him to sit down anyway, he's effectively accusing Clarke of gamesmanship and it clearly threw him off his game.

    • @emreeves1853
      @emreeves1853 4 года назад +4

      @@redkingoldhero38 when mcgill kept playing safety shots from the balk end of the table Clark was stood at the back end of the table slightly in McGill's eyeline, no doubt mcgill overreacted by Chasing Clark backstage that was wrong but he had every right to be annoyed with Clark and ask him to sit down!!!

    • @redkingoldhero38
      @redkingoldhero38 4 года назад +3

      @@emreeves1853 the right answer is probably somewhere between both our opinions. Its defintely possible Clarke didnt walk back to his seat to annoy McGill. I just want to give the benefit of the doubt to clarke

    • @ianwilliamson2980
      @ianwilliamson2980 4 года назад +1

      If that was true then why does all the other players not bother about it?

    • @emreeves1853
      @emreeves1853 4 года назад

      @@ianwilliamson2980 bacause he may not of done it against them and they may of not wanted to say anything to avoid the controversy

  • @seattlesnooker46
    @seattlesnooker46 3 года назад +4

    Please do a video like this for the Ronnie/Allen exchange. From the highlight that I have seen, they only cover the final argument and not the events leading to it. Cheers!

  • @andrewkendall7814
    @andrewkendall7814 3 года назад +7

    I reckon an empty arena emboldened the players to get narky with each other. A big crowd is likely to be intimidating enough to curtail such unprofessionalism.

  • @caneandabel
    @caneandabel 3 года назад +4

    Can’t believe I spent eight minutes watching that 😂 back to watching Bill Werbeniuk drink beer

    • @prg2812
      @prg2812 3 года назад

      I liked the music they played to calm them down. Good idea.

  • @MorningtonCrescent
    @MorningtonCrescent 4 года назад +9

    Keep them coming, Cesar.

  • @jody6183
    @jody6183 3 года назад +1

    I'd love any of them to have a game at my local hall 🤣 'your bag of pork scratchings is in my line of sight'...

  • @karlmoore7406
    @karlmoore7406 3 года назад +29

    Would McGill have done the same if it was O'Sullivan in his eye line? I doubt it...

    • @MackofejFTW
      @MackofejFTW 3 года назад +4

      Ye no one wants to get in a debate with a big child

    • @gazza1136
      @gazza1136 3 года назад +1

      If mcgill had of done the same with ronnie, ronnie would of told him to fk off back to his chair, passed him a box of crayons n a colouring book n told him to be a good boy!!! Mcgill always moaning whingeing about something n such a sad loser!!!

    • @AidanMillward
      @AidanMillward 3 года назад

      @@gazza1136 Ronnie can be a crybaby too 🤣

    • @gazza1136
      @gazza1136 3 года назад

      @@AidanMillward of course!! But then you can be when your the best snooker player on the planet!!😊

    • @keyboardmamma
      @keyboardmamma 3 года назад

      @@gazza1136 This comment didn't exactly age well..

  • @DaveCarterAL
    @DaveCarterAL 3 года назад +2

    Standing in the line of sight is ABSOLUTELY BLATANT, hell I get up from where I'm sitting and move out of the line of sight. Being asked repeatedly to do so is clearly on purpose.

  • @DG-nc1jc
    @DG-nc1jc 4 года назад +12

    Sing when you're winning, cry when you're losing!

  • @barrymanulow4896
    @barrymanulow4896 3 года назад +3

    Just as my opponent is about to take his shot I like to yell out "miss miss cocky's piss"

  • @shade-e4836
    @shade-e4836 3 года назад +23

    So Clarke lost after tweeting "You wanna dance, let's dance" ?

    • @gav25x
      @gav25x 3 года назад +3

      Total tosser

    • @derekmerry784
      @derekmerry784 3 года назад +4

      Put on his red shoes and danced the blues 😂😁 all the way back home

    • @davejones4093
      @davejones4093 3 года назад +3

      Yeah, turns out he isn't a great dancer :D

  • @Cowmilker98
    @Cowmilker98 3 года назад +1

    For some reason this video hasn't been shown to me until now. Nevertheless, great work as always Cesar!

    • @CesarMuroya
      @CesarMuroya  3 года назад

      There have been problems in the recommendation system. I suggest visiting the channel from time to time.

  • @andy-dt7to
    @andy-dt7to 4 года назад +14

    i think this was an over-reaction from McGill and unnecessarily confrontational.
    the second 'issue' McGill complaints his opponent is not returning to his seat while standing directly in front of the opponent seat!
    and later on stands at the other end of the table as his opponent takes his shot. (see about 01:58)
    and not to mention running after your opponent whos taking a quick break and confronting him.
    I think the referee is a very high standard referee, but i think he did not handle this particularly well.
    I watched this match and McGill has gone way way down in my opinion.

    • @nuntana2
      @nuntana2 3 года назад

      He’s a prize tosser and bullied his way to a win. He would not try this on with Ronnie, Selby, Trump, McGuire etc.

    • @riffbw
      @riffbw 3 года назад +3

      I don't play snooker, but when I play pool I hate having my opponent stand behind me. Really I'm just paranoid and I hate anyone standing behind me at any distance. I would have asked that McGill have a seat like he's supposed to.
      McGill played mind games and never should have been allowed to confront Clarke.

  • @MagisterVeritas
    @MagisterVeritas 3 года назад +9

    Players do this to Ronnie all the time, because by the time they reach their chair he's potted 3 or 4 balls and by the time they finished sitting down they have to get up and break the next frame.

  • @ccnokia5415
    @ccnokia5415 3 года назад +5

    referee looks like he is going to snap his infinity gauntlet

  • @Matthew-bu7fg
    @Matthew-bu7fg 3 года назад +8

    This video could be titled "seeded player invents nonsense and succeeds in unsettling qualifier at Crucible"
    McGill knew exactly what he was doing here.

  • @MorningtonCrescent
    @MorningtonCrescent 4 года назад +3

    Any chance of a video special on the SF??!

    • @CesarMuroya
      @CesarMuroya  4 года назад

      I'm afraid it'd be difficult due to copyright issues :(

  • @denisbuckley4352
    @denisbuckley4352 3 года назад +13

    I'm just GLAD sneaky McGill didn't the World Championships this year!!! He distracted Clarke for the rest of the match

    • @nyrbsamoht
      @nyrbsamoht 3 года назад +2

      clearly the incident rattled Clarke more than McGill - McGill is a shifty unit

    • @denisbuckley4352
      @denisbuckley4352 3 года назад +1

      @@nyrbsamoht at least he didn't the Championship thank god say all of us

  • @richard0807
    @richard0807 4 года назад +6

    Can't really see what Clarke did wrong. If there had been an audience, someone in the audience would have been in McGill's line of sight! So what? So long as Clarke didn't move as McGill was down on the shot it's fine. There will be times when, even if Clarke was sitting in his chair, he would have been in McGill's eye-line. What then? As for Joe Perry - he didn't like the placement of Clarke's white towel(!) - I'm kind of lost for words. All a bit petty from a couple of players who were losing at the time of the incidents, and who are experienced enough not to be distracted by such things. Smells to me more of gamesmanship on their part, hoping to break Clarke's concentration.

  • @TheZiggZagg
    @TheZiggZagg 3 года назад +1

    I’m not a fan of Clarke’s attitude. McGill and Perry have every right to raise a concern if he’s distracting them. Clarke needs to grow up and take it on the chin instead of arguing about it.

  • @sayeedafridi9747
    @sayeedafridi9747 3 года назад +2

    What's the outro ?

  • @adrianwright8685
    @adrianwright8685 3 года назад +1

    Problem is players allowing their opponent to affect them for too long before doing something about it: Immediately your opponent is in your eyeline you should ask them - politely - to sit down or move out of the way. Don't let it get to you first.

  • @NT21769
    @NT21769 4 года назад +8

    As a professional referee, he is the one who should have noticed FIRST and straight away remind/warned Clarke on his mistake BEFORE Mcgill do. Referee are slow, not sharp and not professional enough on this occasion. Disappointed.

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 3 года назад +4

    Kinda similar to the O'Sullivan v Allen incident at Champions of Champions last year.

  • @sirajmunir10
    @sirajmunir10 4 года назад +22

    I don't think McGill would dare to ask O'Sullivan to sit down.

    • @thehumaninstrument4840
      @thehumaninstrument4840 4 года назад +11

      No way, ronnie will give him some good cue action.

    • @owengardiner4628
      @owengardiner4628 4 года назад +1

      Why what makes Ronnie so special he wouldn't ask?

    • @sirajmunir10
      @sirajmunir10 4 года назад +6

      @@owengardiner4628 McGill would then be humiliated by receiving another record-breaking 147 & yeah-in-your-face celebration.

    • @jasonwalls1466
      @jasonwalls1466 4 года назад +7

      Difference being ronnie wouldn’t be in his way he knows the drill better than most

    • @patrickmoen8577
      @patrickmoen8577 4 года назад +2

      @@owengardiner4628 Because he knows Ronnie would tell him not to be such a knob and get on with it

  • @philh5292
    @philh5292 4 года назад +11

    Only Jamie Clarke knows for certain whether it was deliberate or carelessness. However, either way, it does seem to have been happening to some extent so I think McGill had an initial right to have a quiet word to the referee about it, who could have had a quiet word with Clarke and then kept an eye out for it, etc. However as the senior player, I think McGill handled it very poorly. Directly confronting his inexperienced opponent was wrong, and I think he went on too long and spoke too impatiently to the ref rather than respectfully. It wasn't how I like to see Snooker players behaving, regardless of how frustrated they are. Neither player came out of it well, but, as we can't be certain how culpable Clarke was of the initial accusation, then I was more disappointed with the way McGill handled it and how he took it too far. It was an ugly and unsporting way for him to beat the Crucible debutant and I was hoping he lost to Maflin in the next round.

    • @SteS
      @SteS 3 года назад +1

      @@andymerrett as long as the player doesn't stand in the strikers eyeline. Mc Gill was standing directly behind.
      Here's the rule.
      *Section 4.*
      5. Non-striker
      _The non-striker shall, when the striker is playing, avoid standing or moving in the line of sight of the striker. They shall sit or stand at a reasonable distance from the table and avoid making any movement or action that may interrupt the concentration of the striker._

  • @RandomJoole
    @RandomJoole 3 года назад +2

    Looks like the Smiling Assassin is just assassinating smiles these days

  • @bikashchoudhury5024
    @bikashchoudhury5024 3 года назад

    Hi Cesar, Great work. Please present the similar incident that happened recently between ROS and Mark Allen in champ of champs where Mark eventually called it 'bullying'.

    • @staceymango6804
      @staceymango6804 Год назад

      It was bullying. Sullivan is an awful person

  • @MagisterVeritas
    @MagisterVeritas 3 года назад +4

    You can tell this is a gentleman's game when this petty squabble is news

  • @RobertLeBlancPhoto
    @RobertLeBlancPhoto 4 года назад

    I agree. When a player is at the table, the opponent should make every effort to stay out of his line of sight or stay seated in their assigned chair.
    Standing in a player's line of sight is called "Sharking" and it's extremely rude, whether or not it's done deliberately.

  • @Barberdon2022
    @Barberdon2022 4 года назад +4

    Can’t believe he came back FairPlay to McGill

    • @RO-uf9ii
      @RO-uf9ii 3 года назад

      Nah McGill is a weasel 👊

  • @Kowinaida
    @Kowinaida 3 года назад +1

    How did you obtain this...?!? Funny.

  • @michaellavery4899
    @michaellavery4899 2 года назад +1

    I don't think McGill did anything wrong, with the exception of over reacting. He should have asked the referee to deal with it
    From what I saw, Clarke had the upper hand and tried to 'push McGill's button' and cause McGill to lose concentration.
    In the end it backfired. The situation was brought under control and Clarke lost his concentration after losing the psychological battle.

  • @rubenlarochelle1881
    @rubenlarochelle1881 3 года назад +1

    Ok, 4:44 was an unexpected twist in my snooker incidents videos bingewatching

  • @sdrtcacgnrjrc
    @sdrtcacgnrjrc 4 года назад +16

    You're a good storyteller

  • @neilpotts2302
    @neilpotts2302 3 года назад +1

    Imagine Eldon v Eddie charlton in an exhibition match! Be like watching two coats of paint drying! And mark slowby on stand by if things accidently started speeding up😂😂

    • @kevinprior3549
      @kevinprior3549 3 года назад

      Add Terry Griffiths, Cliff Thorburn, & Graeme Dott into the fold

  • @musefan12345
    @musefan12345 3 года назад +2

    I think both of them acted like kids to be fair. I don’t believe Clarke meant to cause any trouble, and maybe his lack of experience accounted for him not realising that he was putting McGill off. And that tweet he put out at the interval was excruciatingly embarrassing. McGill on the other hand didn’t need to be be such a prick about it. He was on the offensive from the very first incident, just because he was losing. Rather than acknowledging Clarke’s lack of experience at the crucible, and being nice about it, he came across all confrontational which didn’t help the situation at all. I also thought Jan could have handled it better. I think warning Clarke was needlessly excessive. If he was going to be consistent with his warnings, he should have also warned McGill for going at Clarke again, when he had been specifically told not to.

  • @ebbbbs
    @ebbbbs 2 года назад +2

    Good video.

  • @RockyDave
    @RockyDave 4 года назад +2

    Should have left this experienced referee monitor the situation rather than have direct confrontation between the players.

  • @michaelwray1034
    @michaelwray1034 3 года назад +3

    I dont remember this kind of conduct in the 70's and 80's

    • @johnelkin3557
      @johnelkin3557 3 года назад +3

      No you just had Alex Higgins threatening to have Dennis Taylor killed.

    • @michaelwray1034
      @michaelwray1034 3 года назад

      @@johnelkin3557 yeah but apart from that john... 😉

  • @Knightlore10
    @Knightlore10 3 года назад

    would have liked to see both players at the end of this match. Did they acknowledge one another or just walk out?

  • @keinKlarname
    @keinKlarname 3 года назад +6

    I remember an incident where McGill's opponent slightly touched his west with his cue stick while passing each other and this guy made a scene about it.
    I always hope he fails in his matches - very unpleasant character.

    • @keinKlarname
      @keinKlarname 3 года назад

      @Threehundredpages Pages I thought about my words - and they are right. And now?

    • @mikescorpio13
      @mikescorpio13 3 года назад

      glad you notice too the aura is bad very very bad

    • @unholylemonpledge9730
      @unholylemonpledge9730 2 года назад

      Hes awful

  • @marcballbot3343
    @marcballbot3343 3 года назад +1

    Maybe it was McGill doing the unsportsmanlike behaviour, trying to get in Clarkes head to put him off seeing Clarke was winning 7-2

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 3 года назад +1

    Jan Ver Haas looks like a villain's mean assistant with that beard

  • @menjmarinnenmessze
    @menjmarinnenmessze 4 года назад +2

    Thanks again ! Good job Cesar

  • @thyartisconor
    @thyartisconor 4 года назад +2

    Awesome video

  • @redkingoldhero38
    @redkingoldhero38 4 года назад +5

    it'd be one thing if McGill got down for the shot then asked Clarke to sit down, but he didn't even get down for the shot and didn't even end up playing that red. and on the yellow it's hard to see exactly where Clarke is but it looks like he's off to the right side and not really in McGill's line of sight, he also didn't even get down for that either. I think Clarke was thinking it'd be better to just go to the side than to walk past McGill while potentially playing a shot. It's a bit demanding if not bossy from McGill and it clearly threw Clarke off his game.

  • @rubenlarochelle1881
    @rubenlarochelle1881 3 года назад

    I can't tell whether this video was edited poorly or the complaints were actually that silly.
    I mean, this channel's videos are usually great so I'd say the second option, but it's really such a silly thing to complain about that I can't comprehend it.

  • @COLEEN322
    @COLEEN322 3 года назад

    What is the music at the end please, thanks?

    • @CesarMuroya
      @CesarMuroya  3 года назад +2

      "Plenty Step" from the YT library.

  • @maxkennedysnooker2450
    @maxkennedysnooker2450 4 года назад +5

    Yeah I heard about this incident Im glad it didn't ruin Jamie Clarkes career

  • @CB-zr9fi
    @CB-zr9fi 3 года назад +1

    I think it was just nerves by Clarke and probably
    Not used to the environment of world champs. Also the fact perry got angry with him game before probably primed mcgills anger.

  • @GearheadDaily
    @GearheadDaily 4 года назад +2

    If you are this easily distracted, good lord don't try and play in a bar/pub

    • @tonyde9ball
      @tonyde9ball 3 года назад

      Ill bet he never plays in bars or pubs. No pro these days would.

    • @FlameFlickers
      @FlameFlickers 3 года назад

      Or in front of a live audience while cameramen follow your every move around the table

  • @shellsbignumber2
    @shellsbignumber2 3 года назад +1

    The first moment is total BS imo from McGill, Clarke is no way in his eyeline for the shot on the red, I believe McGill's tactic was to unsettle the lower ranked, less experienced Clarke and put him off his game, seeing as McGill was really struggling at this stage. Unfortunately for Clarke it seems McGill did get in his head as he released that tweet and went on to lose the match. I dont think McGill would try the same trick on a more experienced higher ranked player and definitely not on someone like O'Sullivan.

  • @neiltrevatt
    @neiltrevatt 4 года назад +2

    What is difference stand up at 1end and being in eye line or sitting down at other end and being in eye line . As much as I love this game it gets a bit pompous especially this world championship I know there’s a lot at stake but other tournaments they don’t have the screen there is a lot more noise from the crowd. They are supposed to be professionals they learnt there trade in places where there would be a lot more going on maybe they should make that a part of it and then we would have a champ that not only can play but also shut out the distractions

    • @alexandersimpson3638
      @alexandersimpson3638 4 года назад +1

      Simple, you should always strive to keep out of your opponents eye line. If you’re actually electing to stand up when it’s not your shot... This allows a little movement, however when you are sitting, in a players eye line you should remain absolutely stationary.. Go back a few decades, you sit and await your turn... So it’s a form of gamesmanship, like loitering seconds after the balls have all stopped after you have played your shot, delaying your opponent or hanging around in a players eye line or fidgeting when seated.. You don’t see an issue, fine, but if it not your shot... When requested, sit the fcuk down and don’t move and remember the other player shouldn’t have to ask you to do so, it’s a respect thing and it should be done automatically... 👍

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 Год назад +1

    Angry confrontational between the two most unlikeliest of players to do so.

  • @williamburdon6993
    @williamburdon6993 4 года назад +5

    He knew after the first time he was talked to , for sure, to be in his seat, he didn't go there, so it was intentional. For some people it doesn't matter if they are winning 100 to nothing , they will never have a moment of fair play that they can avoid.

    • @seanscanlon9067
      @seanscanlon9067 4 года назад +5

      It seems McGill wanted Clarke back in his seat regardless of the circumstances, which is fair enough but then McGill later on did not go back to his seat when it was Clarke at the table.

  • @noegojimmy
    @noegojimmy 3 года назад +1

    1:38 wrong. Clarke needs to sit. He is in his peripheral vision.
    Standing behind opponent during safety exchange is common and acceptable by all, not at side. The shot you said it's the only one to play (the one played) is true only to some extent.

  • @jamescleary5198
    @jamescleary5198 3 года назад +9

    Clarke is being unprofessional not returning to his seat!

    • @scottconnorzzzzz
      @scottconnorzzzzz 3 года назад

      Not at all.
      McGill was complaining that he was in his eye line, yet managed to take shots where Clarke is seated BUT still in his eye line, he’s a professional and they are normally surrounded by hundreds of fans when playing a match, he was just being a nob 😁

    • @jamescleary5198
      @jamescleary5198 3 года назад +2

      @@scottconnorzzzzz when not playing at the table, you are advised to return to your seat. To not do this is unprofessional. Regardless of fans being there or not

    • @scottconnorzzzzz
      @scottconnorzzzzz 3 года назад

      @@jamescleary5198
      You are advised not to be in the players eye line, which you can be even when sitting down as was shown when ROS had an issue with someone he was playing was sat and he accused him of fidgeting.
      It is not a rule, you are allowed to stand as was shown in This video when he was stood behind the ref.

    • @scottconnorzzzzz
      @scottconnorzzzzz 3 года назад

      @@jamescleary5198
      Being professional had nothing to do with not returning to your seat so your comment is incorrect.
      It would be unprofessional to constantly be in someone’s eye line, you can be stood and not in someone’s eye line and remain professional as many players do.

    • @jamescleary5198
      @jamescleary5198 3 года назад +2

      @@scottconnorzzzzz he used unsporting conduct and therefore was unprofessional. He was told by the referee a couple times before in the same match! I think you’ve been in too many American pool bars

  • @HCMCDrives
    @HCMCDrives 3 года назад +1

    I love Jan, but I think he was wrong in one way. He told he had to sit down, but he doesn't. There is no law requiring non-striker to sit down, only to avoid being in the line of sight.

  • @dipeshchawan2581
    @dipeshchawan2581 4 года назад +2

    Thnx mate I really wanted to know what happend .

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 Год назад

    Jan Verhaas looked like a Bond villain with that beard. Best snooker referee ever in my opinion. Very fair and comes across as a good man.

  • @vipulaggarwal549
    @vipulaggarwal549 4 года назад +1

    What music in the end?

    • @CesarMuroya
      @CesarMuroya  4 года назад +2

      "Plenty Step" from the YT library.

  • @richinleam
    @richinleam 3 года назад +2

    Pretty sure my teacher had similar conversations with me at primary school.

  • @marstonrobert
    @marstonrobert 3 года назад +1

    LEGENDARY

  • @Kelberi
    @Kelberi 4 года назад +3

    Well any edge is good - Clark

  • @itnaklipse1669
    @itnaklipse1669 4 года назад +2

    i can understand both players, though think it's clear it was much ado about nothing, but nerves got to McGill at that point, and after that to Clarke.
    If Clarke had to sitting down cause it was a tight environment, why the hell didn't McGill need to sit down but could stand behind? After all, it wasn't even about being on the line of sight, but about 'tight environment' according to Verhaas. Verhaas handled the whole thing poorly, and probably ruined Clarke's game. Anyway, players often don't go to sit down, as long as they keep still it's normal, even in line of sight. i half think McGill actually did this on purpose but hope he was just a wreck instead.

    • @CesarMuroya
      @CesarMuroya  4 года назад +2

      You're right, the rule book doesn't prohibit being in line of sight, but moving around when you're there, which never happened. However, I think it was okay to ask Clarke to sit down or whatever, but accusing him of unsportsmanlike required much more evidence than just McGill's perception. The damage can be irreparable when it comes to reputation.

    • @itnaklipse1669
      @itnaklipse1669 4 года назад +2

      @@CesarMuroya Yeah, i agree. It was ok to ask Clarke to sit down if McGill was bothered.
      Thanks for another interesting video! Saw some of it afterwards as replay on ES but not everything relevant that happened and it's kind of unfortunate they mentioned Perry's complaint against Clarke there too, implying Clarke had a reputation for such tactics.

  • @ravivarman2020
    @ravivarman2020 2 года назад

    What I don't get is why not make the playing area a little bigger. Remove one additional row of seats at the crucible.

  • @itellyouwhy6957
    @itellyouwhy6957 4 года назад +2

    I think Clark was in the wrong but don’t think it was intentional. Just stay out of the players eye line. He’s not down the club playing with his mates where that’s totally fine. It’s a competitive environment with lots of prize money on the line.

  • @JONNYPASTRY
    @JONNYPASTRY 3 года назад +2

    What's with the music at the end 😂🤣

  • @rickyharper3207
    @rickyharper3207 4 года назад +1

    McGill played Clarke, put him off his game when he was ahead. Nothing said about him chasing Clarke
    out at the end of the frame, had a go at him outside the dressing rooms.

  • @etow8034
    @etow8034 2 года назад

    These must be the players at the bottom of the food chain ! ...LoL

  • @scottlawson1191
    @scottlawson1191 3 года назад +2

    Wow tense stuff in a very highly tense sport lol.

  • @6666Chaos
    @6666Chaos 3 года назад

    Can someone suggest me what music is played at last? Thanks.

    • @CesarMuroya
      @CesarMuroya  3 года назад +2

      It's called "Plenty Step" from the YT library.

    • @6666Chaos
      @6666Chaos 3 года назад +2

      @@CesarMuroya Thank you sir!

  • @byromtaylor6482
    @byromtaylor6482 3 года назад +7

    When you are losing badly at snooker and things not going right you notice all these little things but when you are focused and zoned in Kim Kardasian could strip naked and sit on the yellow spot and you would not notice. Jamie Clare is a good guy but players have complained before about him Perry, Ryan Day and Mags that I know of. I personally don't think this was deliberate he is not used to the etiquette of the pro tour as much as the others and he was not in the eye line of the first shot at all as Antony was always going to play the red on the side cushion - There are some grumpy snooker pro's out there who hate the world when its going all Pete tongue and you can't hit a cows arse with a banjo! Name me anyone who plays snooker who is not guilty of feeling like this? I think maybe Antony needed to find something to motivate himself and it worked here for McGill who himself deliberately stood behind him on a shot to antagonize the situation in revenge and chased after him to have words which I loved too cos he showed passion and it helped Antony cos it fired him up. I don't think Jamie was doing it deliberately and the tweet was stupid perhaps some might think to me it was just a bit of banter with him making light of the situation. I always liked the lad Jamie I have met him and played him and he is a lovely fella who works hard and deserves his success now. I think a bit of needle in a match and more rivalries are needed actually make snooker matches far more interesting. Eg. Ronnie v Ali Carter or Alex Higgins v Davis or Q Hann v everyone else. Snooker is too PC at times I think we should encourage more of the pro's to speak out at events without fear of getting fined. More of a Mark Williams speaking his mind in the nip and having the crack and more kick offs are needed to promote the game. Snooker is tame by comparison to the 80s and I think we need more of these types. Q Hann's and Alex Higgins and Ronnie's and Williams, Poomjang and Mark Allen to name a few - I love these types of players because they all show a bit of passion in the game and have the crack...Controversy breeds publicity - and snooker needs more publicity - so its all good in a way for the sport more so than a 147 which is way to common to make many headlines these days. Sadly gone are the days were Tony Knowles would bonk anything that moved when Kirk did more coke than Pepsi, were White and Higgins would live the life of playboys and Bill Werbenuk would drink the bar dry before picking up a cue. Personally I don't like snookers ultra clean cut sports image these days. Its all gone far too PC to please sponsors but if they just relaxed and mixed it up a bit - dress code etc - they would get more viewers and more sponsors.. I miss the good ol days cos these are the things us ordinary people players related to. Not just about the serious snooker because snooker was dead duck game until Alex Higgins shot it in the arm. Imagine an event abroad for a laugh as a one off were they are only allowed to enter if they drink14 pints a bucket of vodka and smoked a few joints before the event started and the female refs are models who all wore bikinis with sponsor logos on - wonder who would win that one or how many would watch that on TV? ...Snooker is now just a serious sport many take too serious at times but for many ordinarily players down the club its just a game and we love it for a night out and the crack....its competitive yeah and everyone tries to win but there should always be room for a bit of fun to be had too by everyone and yeah a bit of needle too.

    • @byromtaylor6482
      @byromtaylor6482 3 года назад

      @huawei thirteenmegapixel ha ha yeah - covid boredom

  • @rubenlarochelle1881
    @rubenlarochelle1881 3 года назад +2

    At 0:15 I was so mad that nobody applauded for what McGill just did... Then I noticed it was 2020 and realised no one was there

  • @rudiausbuddeln7573
    @rudiausbuddeln7573 3 года назад +4

    Welcome to the Crucigarten

  • @JJ-Malone
    @JJ-Malone 3 года назад

    It says Clarke was well ahead so unsportmanship was unlikely, Yet funny how the one complaining all the time ended up distracting Clarke and winning in end. So technically you could say it was McGill being unsportmans like.

  • @kenrodewalt5679
    @kenrodewalt5679 4 года назад +3

    In my opinion, after your shot, sit the f@ck down and leave the other player to access the table in His Time...not having the other guy hovering over you waiting for his turn. A gentleman would give a guy space, what I cant understand is, how does a Championship match have to be concerned with space around the table, how amateur is that, might as well have a post in the way lol

  • @Cyberbyte_010
    @Cyberbyte_010 2 года назад +2

    I don't know if any one noticed, but it looked like McGill chased after Clarke just at the end of the frame. Now if McGill had heated words with Clarke before they came back out, that would explain that tweet, and the dirty looks made by McGill. And that would also explain why Clarke got a 2nd talking down to by the ref, instigated by McGill, who was loosing at the time. Poor attitude.

  • @dermotgillespie5138
    @dermotgillespie5138 3 года назад +2

    Like watching two children arguing

  • @ifyourethere
    @ifyourethere 3 года назад +1

    Clarke always has this issue, this is the 3rd time I've seen this with him... he's just annoying to watch and is always twitching when he is in his opponent's view while they're about to shoot. Ronnie has the same issue with Clarke recently.